Flashforward (ABC)

[Spirit Detective]

No, why would I buy 10 episodes out of a 22 episode season?

[HeroesUnlimited]

Well I guess you could always get the rest of the season later...

[Spirit Detective]

Honestly, I don't like this type of release where the studios split a season in half and release them separately.

I would have preferred for a serialized show such as Flashforward to have aired uninterrupted.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Same here. But I'll take what I can get...

[Spirit Detective]

I have a sneaking suspicion that ABC is going to release a Complete Season 1 at some point.

[HeroesUnlimited]

I bet you're right. But that could be a few years down the road. By that time, I may have lost interest.

[disciples of zod]

I was a little surprised to learn that they were releasing a Flashforward Volume 1 DVD. I kind of figured we'd get season 1 as its own set. But they're splitting it up. The nice thing is, it comes out prior to Flashforward's return so it's possible to get yourself caught up. Are you guys going to buy it? I probably will. Here's a link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0031ZWZR2/gijoevid


Hmm...wonder why they did that? I'll just wait until the whole season comes out...

~H

[disciples of zod]

^^


Yes, I believe i read on abc.com or something of the like that when it comes back on in March, they'll run the rest of the season to May with no repeats.

~H

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Ok, it's in the above mentioned article! ^_^

[dru-zod2501]

I can't wait for it to come back. The 1st 10 episodes were really tight.

If they are doing the episodes in real time, then that means by the time they come back, it's about the time Demetri is supposed to die. I wonder if they're going to do it right away? expected, yet also unexpected

[InactiveUserID]

Now we have to wait longer to hear more moping from that guy who's doomed to die.

***HOT STICKY SPECULATION about the mystery***
I wonder if the flashforwards were like rollover cell phone minutes stolen into someone's lifespan so they could time travel much harder using everyone else's minutes.

[KSiteTV]

That's two gone, now. :(

http://www.ksitetv.com/flashforward-loses-another-showrunner/

[Crouching Lurker]

^^^

Yipes! :\ What is going on with this show?? It's got such a good premise on paper; why is it so hard to keep this project together? :(

[Spirit Detective]

I saw this coming a mile away. I never pegged Goyer as a tv person (in spite of Blade: The Series).

[kcox6751]

I don't understand why so many people don't like this show. I love it and definitely see it as a successor to Lost. You know whose fault it is for the plummeting ratings? ABC.

For one, how many of you have seen ANY advertising for the March 18 return? Since Dec 3, the date of the last new episode, I have seen ONE new promo, and that was the night of the Lost premiere. Not one other ad. Terrible plan. Get the word out there NOW, ABC, you only have a bit more than a month till the return. It's as if they want the show to fail, too.

I also wish TV execs & critics weren't so darn greedy. Obviously, that's their nature, but claiming nearly 9 million people watching live isn't a lot?! 9 million.

[Karafan1]

I just saw an ad saying FlashForward will be back March 18th..

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

Flashforward is actually coming out to DVD. The release date is confirmed: February 23rd, which should be next Tuesday. It's going to be like "Glee", where it's season one, part one. It'll have the episodes we've seen, before it's hiatus here. But yes, it'll be back about March 18th.

[dru-zod2501]

3 days left!!!!!

[Superboy2]

So does it come back march 4th or 18th?

[SparkleforSmallville]

At tvbythenumbers:
February 27, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Bill Gorman writes, “ABC hasn’t given up entirely on FlashForward yet.” In fact, it doesn’t look like ABC has given up on it AT ALL. They’re devoting FIVE PRIME-TIME HOURS to its return its first week back:

On Tuesday, March 16, 2010, at 10:00 p.m. Eastern, right after Lost, ABC will be airing a one-hour clip show summarizing the first ten episodes.

Two days later, on Thursday, March 18, 2010, at 8:00 p.m. Eastern, two new episodes are airing back-to-back in a two-hour block.

Two days later, on Saturday, March 20, 2010, at 8:00 p.m. Eastern ABC repeats those episodes.

No network that was “giving up” on a show would devote five hours in one week to its return."

(I'm glad about the clip show, cause I have forgotten most of the storyline, and I am still
interested in FF)

[Karafan1]

Cool! 2 new episodes in a row!!!!!!!

[disciples of zod]

THURSDAY!!! who's excited???? :D

~K

[dru-zod2501]

I seriously can't wait!@!! this is one of the best new series out now!!

lol, Today's the 17th Demetri should be dead by now, unless the new epsodes are on a different timeline

[Karafan1]

5 hours 52 minutes until the return of FlashForward!!!!!

[KSiteTV]

Count down to the episode's airing and then discuss it LIVE here - after five months, Flashforward is back!

[superhippie2000]

4 hours 12 minutes

[Karafan1]

3 hours 5 minutes!!

[superhippie2000]

1 hour 17 minutes

[superhippie2000]

its on :D

[superhippie2000]

i think the only character i really like on this show is simon :\ after learning what he did during the black out and how he has been involved since he was younger makes me more intrested.

[number8]

Not on yet for me, but tonight's return is two episodes? Awesome!

[superhippie2000]

ya its 2 hours. the second half is better. DM isreally good as simon. much different then charlie on lost.

[kcox6751]

Really enjoyed the episode. Love where it's headed... just hope people actually tuned in so we can get a season two. It's clear they took time during the hiatus to really focus on the story and get it right. They proved they did tonight.

Also, superhippie2000, I just want to say your avatar, or whatever it's called, is probably the best I've ever seen. Gave me a good laugh. :)

[superhippie2000]

ya i think if they build the story and focus more on the characters the series could be good. just right now its like we dont really know anything about the characters. im glad we are learning more about simon tho :D

thanks :D

[Karafan1]

Pretty good show tonight!! Simon just couldn't get away from Janis no matter where he went!!:lol: The up coming episodes look pretty good too!!!

[Kevin24]

Flashforward returns with a BANG!

[kcox6751]

But only roughly 7 million viewers.

I'm worried. :\ :(

[KSiteTV]

Since ratings are dropping and there were only 12 posters on last night (4 posts of which came from mods), I've demoted Flashforward back to the Other TV Shows forum. Maybe there'll be more activity here.

[Karafan1]

But only roughly 7 million viewers.

I'm worried. :\ :(

Yikes!!!!!:eek: I blame the NCAA b-ball tournment for the low ratings..

[Superboy2]

So was whats his name drunk during the time of his flashforward and also drunk in his flashforward as well?

[ReignoftheSupermen]

AMAZING episode!!! It was sooooo good. I loved that they finally explained Suspect Zero. So much happened in that episode, I'm gonna have to watch it again. I still have it on my DVR.

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Yikes!!!!!:eek: I blame the NCAA b-ball tournment for the low ratings..

good point

[dru-zod2501]

So was whats his name drunk during the time of his flashforward and also drunk in his flashforward as well?
no Mark has been sober for seven years to date, but I think Olivia eventually running off to Lloyd is what will drive him back to the bottle.

Not a bad start. I'm still confused about what the date was for them yesterday. I liked the first hour better than the first. The 2nd half made some nice points, but sounded too preachy to me, and I wasn't that intersted in Janice and Simon playing tag.

The ID of suspect zero I didn't see coming at all:eek:

[dru-zod2501]

I just had a thought, that lady in hong kong, in the future she only read about demetri's murder but she didn't actually see it. Mark turned in his gun, maybe whoever kills Demetri isn't going to be Mark after, he just took his gun

something to think about

[Karafan1]

I hope we get to find out!! I'd hate for ABC to pull the plug because they picked the wrong thursday for F.F. to return..

[Xanderman]

Really great episode, one of the best of the season. Lots of interesting reveals. It's funny seeing some of the actors/characters in a new light now now that I've started watching Lost. I never watched Lost before its last season (I caught up with all the seasons just before it began). It's hilarious seeing Charlie. And also, Desmond's woman is now Mark's. And Juliet is on V...ha. Various similarities to Lost with this series of course, increasing my appreciation/enjoyment of FF. The very name of the series (FlashForward) being one of the story-telling modes Lost followed at one time, for one thing.

I like how they're continuing to make Mark's vision a self-fulfilling one. With us now learning that the only reason he was able to save Lloyd was because of something from his wall-of-weird vision, which in turn only makes it to the wall-of-weird because he saved Lloyd due to it (circular). It is clear that Mark's future is inescapable. Most futures are of this kind I'm sure. With self-fulfilling, or otherwise neutral effects on their seers. Unlike Al's, which was a self-annihilating vision.

Anyway, fantastic series and I also hope it makes it, especially since Lost is ending this year.

[SVfan87]

i forgot all about FF's return. that break was waaaaaay too long. its as if they were asking to get canceled. with such a long hiatus ur bound to lose viewers. reminds me of heroes season 2. anyway, i just caught up on the latest 2-part FF episode. pretty good. i like how they're now showing Simon in a good light. he's more a victim than a bad guy. But whatever happened to the girl from Hong Kong who came to America to look for the doctor (i cant remember his name)? that story was kinda interesting. first, he was looking for her now she's looking for him. as for Mark's circular present/future- too confusing. it doesnt make sense to me. anyway, its good to have another show to get into besides smallville. my obsession with smallville was getting a little out of control with the last few episodes. so maybe this will hamper it a little, spread out my obsessiveness between 2 shows. cuz there's nothing else on right now that i'm really into.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

no Mark has been sober for seven years to date, but I think Olivia eventually running off to Lloyd is what will drive him back to the bottle.

I think you have it backwards. I think it's the bottle that will drive Olivia into Lloyd's arms. She's already said that she's done with his drinking. If he starts again, it would be all the excuse she needed to go off with Lloyd.

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i forgot all about FF's return. that break was waaaaaay too long. its as if they were asking to get canceled. with such a long hiatus ur bound to lose viewers. reminds me of heroes season 2. anyway, i just caught up on the latest 2-part FF episode. pretty good. i like how they're now showing Simon in a good light. he's more a victim than a bad guy. But whatever happened to the girl from Hong Kong who came to America to look for the doctor (i cant remember his name)? that story was kinda interesting. first, he was looking for her now she's looking for him. as for Mark's circular present/future- too confusing. it doesnt make sense to me. anyway, its good to have another show to get into besides smallville. my obsession with smallville was getting a little out of control with the last few episodes. so maybe this will hamper it a little, spread out my obsessiveness between 2 shows. cuz there's nothing else on right now that i'm really into.

Smallville takes too many breaks. I've kind of forgotten about it.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Why did Simon and Flaso act like they were just meeting each other for the first time (when Simon got kidnapped) when they actually met each other weeks/months earlier at the baseball stadium in Detroit, the day of the blackout?

[krewsaider]

To trick Lloyd into believing Simon wasn't involved at all. That's my guess anyways.

[targis]

10 Hours 48 minutes until "Blowback"

[Karafan1]

6 hours 9 minutes!!

[rajman]

If FF gets cancelled it's the biggest loss this decade.

[dru-zod2501]

I think you have it backwards. I think it's the bottle that will drive Olivia into Lloyd's arms. She's already said that she's done with his drinking. If he starts again, it would be all the excuse she needed to go off with Lloyd.
I used to think that too, but now I'm not so sure. I've seen Olivia is becoming increasingly fond of Lloyd, and even without a real bottle between them, their marriage is having a tough time escaping its shadow. I read that Mark is going to move out in tonight's episode, sounds like a sure setup for the future already.

The way I see it, what would drive Mark back to the bottle faster than losing his family? He's stronger as long as he's fighting it for them, but if they leaves him...

He's going to make a colossal mistake sometime soon that Olivia, His friends, his boss won't be able to overlook. With Aaron dealing with his daughter's situation, he'll feel like there's nowhere else left to turn to except the bottom of a shot glass

[Xanderman]

I think you have it backwards. I think it's the bottle that will drive Olivia into Lloyd's arms. She's already said that she's done with his drinking. If he starts again, it would be all the excuse she needed to go off with Lloyd.


I used to think that too, but now I'm not so sure. I've seen Olivia is becoming increasingly fond of Lloyd, and even without a real bottle between them, their marriage is having a tough time escaping its shadow. I read that Mark is going to move out in tonight's episode, sounds like a sure setup for the future already.

The way I see it, what would drive Mark back to the bottle faster than losing his family? He's stronger as long as he's fighting it for them, but if they leaves him...

He's going to make a colossal mistake sometime soon that Olivia, His friends, his boss won't be able to overlook. With Aaron dealing with his daughter's situation, he'll feel like there's nowhere else left to turn to except the bottom of a shot glassAnd of course we also need to take into account the central factor that's causing these problems to begin with -- that being what they saw. Mark's and Olivia's flashforwards, along with many others, have a self-creating/self-fulfilling element to them. Meaning, seeing these visions puts the seers on paths toward their realization, whether they realize it or not. (Causal loops.)

Basically, Mark revealing himself to be drinking again in his vision to his wife adds a dimension of strain to their relationship, and Olivia seeing herself with another man adds an even bigger one. The allure of this vision has an effect on both Olivia and Lloyd, causing them to be drawn to each other. Seeing themselves together is an active ingredient in why they end up together. Paradoxical seeming, yes, but since we're dealing with time travel/time viewing where the future acts on the past (an inverse of the "natural" order of things), these types of "unnatural" seeming cause/effect dynamics become expected.

[Superboy2]

I like Mark and I'd rather see him going to the bottle because Olivia leaves him rather then the other way around. Or she leaves him thinking he will drink again and he thinks about it but never does.

[Xanderman]

Well if Mark actually does end up shooting/killing his best friend, maybe this could be what drives him back to the bottle? And Olivia ends up with Lloyd because she can't stand to sleep in the same bed as a murderer (Mark). :lol:

But seriously there's a good chance Mark's flashforward drinking may be mostly connected to Demetri's death. And if it's not guilt over pulling the trigger himself, perhaps it will be guilt/depression over not being able to prevent it. Especially if it ends up being his gun that is used.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I used to think that too, but now I'm not so sure. I've seen Olivia is becoming increasingly fond of Lloyd, and even without a real bottle between them, their marriage is having a tough time escaping its shadow. I read that Mark is going to move out in tonight's episode, sounds like a sure setup for the future already.

The way I see it, what would drive Mark back to the bottle faster than losing his family? He's stronger as long as he's fighting it for them, but if they leaves him...

He's going to make a colossal mistake sometime soon that Olivia, His friends, his boss won't be able to overlook. With Aaron dealing with his daughter's situation, he'll feel like there's nowhere else left to turn to except the bottom of a shot glass

I disagree. I think it will be the drinking which pushes Olivia towards Lloyd. She may like him, but she's been pretty clear she wants to save her marriage.

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And of course we also need to take into account the central factor that's causing these problems to begin with -- that being what they saw. Mark's and Olivia's flashforwards, along with many others, have a self-creating/self-fulfilling element to them. Meaning, seeing these visions puts the seers on paths toward their realization, whether they realize it or not. (Causal loops.)

Actually, in this case, I think they're trying to resist what they saw, not ensure that it comes true.

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OK, so who do you think the mole is? I think it's Wedick. I have this feeling he's actually working with D. Gibbons behind everyone's back. Being the boss at the FBI allows him to orchestrate what direction the investigation takes. If he thinks they're getting too close, for example, he can always steer them in some other direction (or refuse to authorize a trip to Hong Kong or Somalia). On the other hand, maybe Demetri is actually the mole and when Mark learns this, that's why he kills him.

[Crouching Lurker]

Finals for 1x13 Blowback (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/483103482?r=457103482#457103482)

Flashforward
- 6.165 million viewers
- 4.0/7 HH
- 1.8/6 A18-49

I just don't see this show being picked up for another season; but I hope it at least lasts until we can get some resolution for this season's storylines.

That said, I enjoyed the last two episodes. Blowback was a little weaker than Revelation Zero, IMO, but still pretty good. Aaron was a beast; it's the most interesting he's been for me all season. He was still foolish for giving away his daughters location, but I love that he's going to take her back. The Mark/Lloyd scenes were fun, talk about awkward! Can't wait to see them working together.

[Superboy2]

I thought it was dumb of Aaron to give away the location of his daughter but I saw something coming when the guy said he'd go visit.

[Xanderman]

Actually, in this case, I think they're trying to resist what they saw, not ensure that it comes true.I'm not saying they're necessarily trying to ensure their visions come true, just that seeing these visions and sharing them with each other, etc, have certain effects on everyone, their actions etc, likely towards the realization of these very futures, whether they realize it or not. Even actions taken to "resist" a future can be connected to why said future results in the first place. This is what I think is going on in many cases. Like in the cases of Mark and Demetri (Demetri and Mark probing into Demetri's future death is probably putting them on a path toward that death). As far as I can tell, the flashforward futures are based on pasts where people had these flashes--Mark's flash is the most clear example of this, as the wall only exists because of the worldwide flashforward event. This to me is a clear indicator that his flashforward especially is written in stone. If they end up making Mark's future during those few minutes different, that will be a major plothole to me in terms of logic.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I'm not saying they're necessarily trying to ensure their visions come true, just that seeing these visions and sharing them with each other, etc, have certain effects on everyone, their actions etc, likely towards the realization of these very futures, whether they realize it or not. Even actions taken to "resist" a future can be connected to why said future results in the first place. This is what I think is going on in many cases. Like in the cases of Mark and Demetri (Demetri and Mark probing into Demetri's future death is probably putting them on a path toward that death). As far as I can tell, the flashforward futures are based on pasts where people had these flashes--Mark's flash is the most clear example of this, as the wall only exists because of the worldwide flashforward event. This to me is a clear indicator that his flashforward especially is written in stone. If they end up making Mark's future during those few minutes different, that will be a major plothole to me in terms of logic.

Fair enough. BWT, any theories on who the mole is? I think it could be Wedick or Demetri. Wedick is the boss so he'd have the easiest time hiding it. And Demetri's murder could indicate he's the mole.

[Xanderman]

any theories on who the mole is? I think it could be Wedick or Demetri. Wedick is the boss so he'd have the easiest time hiding it. And Demetri's murder could indicate he's the mole.I didn't remember the mole stuff from the episode at all so I rewatched parts of it. Anyway, Mark joked with Demetri's girlfriend that maybe Demetri's the mole and so that's why he shoots him (so the episode itself covered off one of your possibilities). Maybe the episode covering it off the way they did automatically throws it out? Or maybe it's going to end up being some cute irony thing where Mark's joking ends up being the truth. It could go either way really, but to me, it's more likely the Demetri possibility is out the window now because of this scene. Either way though, when Demetri's fiancee told Mark to "go to hell", I think he should have replied, "You first", don't you think? :lol:

As for it being Stan, could be, but part of me thinks his pathetic flashforward (sitting on the toilet) almost automatically eliminates the possibility of anything that interesting ever being linked to his character. lol (Or, that's just how they WANT it to look... Damned "irony", lets them do anything...ha)

Maybe there is no mole? Maybe someone has mastered flashforwards and they're viewing the future, and this is how they have the leg up on everything the FBI does or tries to do?

[Karafan1]

16 hours 7 minutes until "Better Angels"!!

[Kevin24]

All I have to say is.....WOW!!!!!!!

[Karafan1]

Now we know where Janis' baby comes from!! Demitri better remember that what happens in Somalia stays in Somalia!!!!:rotfl:

Kinda anti-climactic there with Charlie's F.F..I thought for sure she knew who D. Gibbons is:(

Looks like Mark isn't making an effort to stop his F.F. from happening..

[Kevin24]

DO you think they really did have sex? They just jumped into the scene with Demetri at the tower watching the tape. Anyway, from last weeks epsiode I would have sworn that it was going to be Simon. She met his family last week and saw a whole new side to him. I definitely thought they were going that way with her getting pregnant.

That warlord guy was a pretty good villian because he killed with no mercy at all. He just killed 3 of those guys and 2 of his own like nothing. Then he talked about his vision and then janis said that he was going to bring peace.

I was like wow that crazy ass? No way can he do that after what we've just seen him do. Funny thing was how they were all friends after that lmao......

That last message from Gibbons to Demetri was mind-blowing.....I got chills watching that scene. How does he know??? did he have a flashforward back then??

[ReignoftheSupermen]

This series just keeps getting better and better. I love the tower(s) in Somalia. The message to Demetri from 1991 was a big attention-getter. And is it just me, or does it look like the CIA guy is going to end up being the bad guy/mole? It looks like he had a role in the attack on Mark in his office. I wonder what will happen if/when Charlie sees him in person. She'll be able to ID him as the guy who said Mark was dead. That will probably end up being what "outs" him. BTW, Mark was alive in his Flashforward. I wonder why that guy thought he was dead. Unless he was just assuming those masked guys got to him.

[Xanderman]

Not one of my favorite eps, but it was ok. I really didn't like how they had another future averted. Completely stupid and inconsistent in terms of logic, IMO. At least with the Al situation, one could say that the future he saw was one where the flashforward event didn't happen in the past, as it didn't seem the flashforward event in the past was necessary for that future to be. But with Abdi, in his flash he was wearing his dead mom's necklace and quoting Abe Lincoln (or whatever). All events directly connected to stuff that happened in this ep. But if the rest of "flashforward Abdi" 's past is the same as what we're seeing now (connected to the flashforward worldwide event), what happened to getting shot in the back??? Completely stupid writing! FlashForward is now officially as inconsistent and nonsensical as Heroes and their handling of time travel. Thanks for jumping the shark FF!

Now anything can be changed. Mark's future, the agent that wants a baby, etc, and yet I'm pretty sure they're going to have some futures happen exactly as foreseen. It doesn't make sense, it's simply inconsistent. Bad writing. Now I don't care what this show does anymore. Gee thanks writers!



Now we know where Janis' baby comes from!! Demitri better remember that what happens in Somalia stays in Somalia!!!!
:lol:


Kinda anti-climactic there with Charlie's F.F..I thought for sure she knew who D. Gibbons is:(I felt exactly the same way. What a crappy flashforward reveal.


Looks like Mark isn't making an effort to stop his F.F. from happening..Right, and this would make it seem just part of why it ends up happening. But as I complained about Abdi's future not happening, absolutely anything and everything can apparently be changed, and that my friend is simply idiotic "Back to the Future" level writing. Ugh.


DO you think they really did have sex? They just jumped into the scene with Demetri at the tower watching the tape.They totally had sex dude.:lol: And Demetri's fiancee is gonna find out, get her hands on Mark's missing gun (or she might already have it if she's the one who took it), and SHE'S gonna be the one who shoots him to death! Haha, I'd love it if they do that.


That last message from Gibbons to Demetri was mind-blowing.....I got chills watching that scene. How does he know??? did he have a flashforward back then??Either a flashforward experience, or maybe later in the future he sends a "flash" backward in time to himself? As it might be that someone eventually masters flashforwards/time viewing. And this person might also be the "mole" that seems to know what the FBI does before they do it.


And is it just me, or does it look like the CIA guy is going to end up being the bad guy/mole? It looks like he had a role in the attack on Mark in his office.I'm not so sure he's the mole -- they brought up the mole thing before he ever joined the team didn't they? Plus it might be "too obvious" to expect him as the mole. I'm still leaning on the mole being someone who has mastered time viewing, possibly D. Gibbons given the ending with his special message for Demetri.


BTW, Mark was alive in his Flashforward. I wonder why that guy thought he was dead. Unless he was just assuming those masked guys got to him.Yes it's probably an assumption sort of thing. As the "assassination" was in the process of happening as he spoke, so it was pretty much a "done deal" as far as he was concerned.

[disciples of zod]

Great episode last week...next week's looks like a lot of flash forwards are coming to pass! Can't wait!

~H

[Karafan1]

2 hours 32 minutes until "Queen Sacrafice"!!

[Karafan1]

1 word describes tonight's episode...WOW!!!!!!!!

I was yelling 'Hurry up and get in there!' when Bryce was outside the japanese place:lol:

[deanropi]

I don't know why, but I enjoyed seeing Seth MacFaralane get shot.

[Kevin24]

Wow, another great epsiode of Flashforward. I really enjoyed the scenes with Keiko in the autoshop. I was surprised that Nicole didn't kiss Bryce back after he kissed her because I've been getting the vibe that she really likes him.

I still can't believe that Keiko and Bryce didn't notice each other at the restaurant. I guess that menu or whatever it was covered them.

The part that confused me the most but at the same time was the most interesting part of the epsiode was when they were discovering the mole. I didn't quite follow how it all went down from the chess games to the coffee/sugar signals.

Btw, the ending gave me chills once again!

[dru-zod2501]

I don't know about this ep, it felt very disjointed, and apart from
the A-plot, it didn't hold my interest.

Keiko and Bryce, it's good that the story's finally moving forward with them, but the stalling should've ended by now. If the message of their story is that maybe they aren't meant to be, in spite of what they saw in a potential future, then put them together and show the audience why they might not work.

I can't believe who the mole turned out to be. I was so sure it was Vogel before. Janice was my favorite character, I am beyond hurt. What does this mean for her future? Was her flashforward even real? And who is the real villain now? D. Gibbons didn't seem like he had anything to do with the placement of the moles.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I got a chance to watch the preview/clip show last week, and I must say, it was quite impressive. I may have to start from the beginning and watch.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I can't believe it was Janice!!! WOW!

[dru-zod2501]

could this mean that Janice will be the one who shoots Demetri with Mark's gun? The push to bring them closer in Better Angels was probably a red herring I'm guessing. Instead of creating a life together, they'll end one eventually. And she had plenty chance to take the gun from evidence.

Now I'm so glad they didn't have Demetri submit to that harpy, he'd be forever tarnished. GRR I'm still mad about this:mad:

[rajman]

"OH MYYYY GODDD"

This show better not get cancelled. Joss Whedon even said all the good Sci-Fi shows are getting cancelled

[Karafan1]

2 hours 10 minutes until "Let No Man Put Asunder"!!

[Kevin24]

I can't believe Olivia cheated on Mark. I am so disappointed that it really did happen. I thought she was going to stop it from happening but she gave in. I am really letdown by that and she was crying before she kissed him too. Wow, no excuses for what she did.

Dyson Frost is a bad ass and I hope Dimitri doesn't die. You would think they would be guarding him knowing how close the date of his death is but I guess not. Anyway, Charlie looks like she is about to get kidnapped.

[Karafan1]

I was expecting the Lloyd/Oliva stuff to happen after she went in his house. Doesn't look good for Demitri next week..I see they're taking their sweet time having Bryce and Keiko meet, so since they're doing that, I'm a Brycole shipper!!! No Bryce and Nicole this week though..I'd like to see them run into eachother at the hospital and talk about their kiss.......They sure know how to end an episode.."Hello Charlie" then a black screen!! Ahhhhh!!!!!

[GhostRaider]

Latest ratings are in and Flash Forward falls below 5 million viewers and gets beat by The Vampire Diaries in the demos with which it ties for last place with a repeat of The Office.

Link:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/16/tv-ratings-survivor-leads-cbs-win-fringe-gains-flash-forward-csi-fall/48767

[Andyville]

I just don't understand why are there so little fans watching this show dammit. I download it from the net and I can't wait for Thursday to come. It's an awesome thriller. But hey I guess some are better off watching cheesy comedies or teen dramas instead of some quality TV.

[dru-zod2501]

huh, ok. This ep was more positioning characters for a later push.

I so wanted to believe Demetri didn't really go through with fertilizing that harpy traitor, now that dream is gone from me NOOO!!

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I think the whole Lloyd-Olivia thing is feeling a bit forced. She went from someone who was passionate about moving to Denver to avoid the future she saw with Lloyd to kissing him at his house in a matter of two weeks? Doesn't really feel believable. Neither does Demetri impregnating Janice. But beyond that, the show absolutely rocks. I'm loving it. Poor Demetri doesn't seem like he can avoid dying no matter what he does.

[Superboy2]

I like the show and I usually watch Vampire Diaries and Supernatural first so I record it. I hope it lasts a few more seasons.

[WhoRU?]

It just lacks a character who is offbeat and has real charisma although the scientist genius is interesting, it needs a real kick ass tough guy. Beside that, everything else is very much OK.

[Anu]

Why is this thread under the other shows? And not where it just used to be?

[InactiveUserID]

Ratings low for Flashforward?

Possible Reasons:

1) ABC is the same network that does Lost. So all of the people willing to let shows like this fool them into watching religiously are already doing that with Lost. Only a few, like me, never got into Lost and so were still available for Flashforward to fool us into watching for a whole season while hoping there's some kind of payoff before season 5 of the show.

2) For the first 8 weeks they kept showing the same flash forwards over and over again. Instead of being riveted, some viewers may have taken that as a cue to change the channel.

3) Maybe they should have made more episodes like the one when they went to Somalia. That was a rockin hour.

4) Even though I'm a fan of the show, I still want to see many of the characters get paddled. I think I deserve to see a mass-spanking take place because many of the characters are obnoxious. Maybe during the next blackout a bunch of people can remain awake and start paddling the unconscious people so that they wake up to corporal punishment?

5) Vampires are hot? (Or so I hear.)

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Only a few, like me, never got into Lost and so were still available for Flashforward to fool us into watching for a whole season while hoping there's some kind of payoff before season 5 of the show.

Ditto here. I watch Flashforward, but never watched Lost.

[Superboy2]

Same here. I've been a SV fan and it took away viewers way back when it started and I refused to ever watch it because to me I think its over rated. I've seen about two episodes. I've seen all but the second episode of Flashforward.

[Karafan1]

5 hours 5 minutes until the new episode!!!!!!

[disciples of zod]

Getting ready to go downstairs and watch! EXCITED!!! :D

~K

[Superboy2]

Stupid dvr didn't record it.

[Karafan1]

Another great episode!!!!! Mark shoulda taken a pic of the board before it was erased!!!! Looks like next week we'll find out more about the creepy guy who talked to Olivia..

[Superboy2]

Looks like I gotta wait till it comes to DVD to see all of it. Theres what, five episodes left?

[The Dark Knight74]

Looks like I gotta wait till it comes to DVD to see all of it. Theres what, five episodes left?


It will be up on Hulu or ABC.com tomorrow.

[Kevin24]

Thsi show just keeps getting better and better! I can't wait for next week!

[dru-zod2501]

whew, Mark is the hero, Demetri is alive, and all is well with the world... or so we wish it could be.

I knew Dyson Frost wasn't as bad as everyone thought he was. In essence he was just like Simon, only way more screwed up; he could've been a great ally eventually.

[Xanderman]

As predicted (well it was one of many predictions I made--chances are if you make enough predictions one them will be right or close to the truth, duh right), the purpose of the flashforward experiments/blackouts is likely to figure out a way to avoid an upcoming apocalypse (set for Dec 12 2016 apparently -- gee I wonder if they plan on, oh I don't know, 7 seasons? lol). Very Heroes, also Lost. So basically, Frost was trying to save the world. (Of course, it's possible messing with the future, giving people blackouts/flashes, etc, is what leads or will lead to the end of everything.)

It's interesting that Frost of all people, who's been "playing the game" for decades, could not accurately foresee/predict what would happen to himself in the end. He was truly surprised when he got shot, saying with conviction that it wasn't supposed to happen that way (it didn't make sense to him, he seemed to see it as impossible). The set-up for this series is apparently that flashforwards are truly only "possible" futures, and there is no way of knowing for sure which future will result until it actually happens, due to variables such as "free will" (romantic notion) and/or randomness/chaos theory type stuff no doubt. That said, not really consistent with the fact that Frost recorded that message in Somalia in the far past for Demetri, and that ended up working out exactly as he planned it to/foresaw (ie. Demetri ending up in Somalia playing and seeing that message). Frost was clearly prepared for and accurately predicted many things exactly. And yet in the end he was truly surprised? Perhaps when it comes to your own death, you are not able to see that clearly or some mumbo-jumbo like that. Anyway, all possible futures seem to lead to or converge upon the same ultimate point--Dec 12, 2016--as Frost has apparently never been able to see beyond that point. This implies that the event on that date is not so much a mere possibility or even a probability, but an unavoidable eventuality--a sure thing. This probably drove Frost a little coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs.

Anyway I'm not sure how consistent the show's being with how these flashforwards actually work, but one thing I do clearly see is that they've chosen a format that lets them do absolutely anything they want and not have to worry whether it's logical or not. Almost as cheap and convenient as Heroes' handling of their own brand of "anything goes" time travel. Still I'm sure at least some flashforwards will happen exactly as foreseen, like Mark's, which again I don't see as consistent. Clearly the show's makers want to have their cake, eat it too, and eat YOURS too to boot. Sorry, peeps, but dems is how the cookies crumble.:( :lol:





1) ABC is the same network that does Lost. So all of the people willing to let shows like this fool them into watching religiously are already doing that with Lost. Only a few, like me, never got into Lost and so were still available for Flashforward to fool us into watching for a whole season while hoping there's some kind of payoff before season 5 of the show.Lol... I never watched Lost either, not before December/January of this year when I did a marathon to catch up. And I gotta say the "journey" is a ton of fun. Whether or not we are ever given a satisfactory ultimate payoff is not the sole reason to watch a show. Lost is a fantastic series, especially the first few seasons. I don't mind being strung along waiting for proper resolution/answers, not when being strung along is as fun as Lost makes it.


2) For the first 8 weeks they kept showing the same flash forwards over and over again. Instead of being riveted, some viewers may have taken that as a cue to change the channel.Lol, I didn't mind that. But in retrospect, now that we're being told that flashes show only "possible" futures, all that focus on the same flashforwards over and over again seems pointless (a mislead). Would have been more meaningful if futures were truly set, and "avoiding" futures required no less than an act of God. And it doesn't really follow for me why these flashes were supposedly "burned" into everyone's memories if they only represented possible futures. "Burning" implies a sense of true importance, of permanence, like these futures ARE the future, not merely possible. Oh well, anything goes with this show. Pass the popcorn.


3) Maybe they should have made more episodes like the one when they went to Somalia. That was a rockin hour.Ironically your favorite episode was one of my least favorites. Mostly I was just pissed at what they did with Abdi and his flashforward being avoided. But I've since come to terms with the fact that the showrunners have adopted a "let's do whatever the hell we want, who cares if it makes sense" mentality.


4) Even though I'm a fan of the show, I still want to see many of the characters get paddled. I think I deserve to see a mass-spanking take place because many of the characters are obnoxious. Maybe during the next blackout a bunch of people can remain awake and start paddling the unconscious people so that they wake up to corporal punishment?:lol:


5) Vampires are hot? (Or so I hear.)I watch both True Blood and Vampire Diaries so you hear right my friend.:lol: Couldn't stand the Twilight movies though. Awful.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Another great episode!!!!! Mark shoulda taken a pic of the board before it was erased

I'm sure he didn't realize that was going to happen. And besides, he was pretty focused on saving Demetri, and rightly so.

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Thsi show just keeps getting better and better! I can't wait for next week!

Agreed. I'm totally hooked.

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As predicted (well it was one of many predictions I made--chances are if you make enough predictions one them will be right or close to the truth, duh right), the purpose of the flashforward experiments/blackouts is likely to figure out a way to avoid an upcoming apocalypse (set for Dec 12 2016 apparently -- gee I wonder if they plan on, oh I don't know, 7 seasons? lol). Very Heroes, also Lost. So basically, Frost was trying to save the world. (Of course, it's possible messing with the future, giving people blackouts/flashes, etc, is what leads or will lead to the end of everything.)

It's interesting that Frost of all people, who's been "playing the game" for decades, could not accurately foresee/predict what would happen to himself in the end. He was truly surprised when he got shot, saying with conviction that it wasn't supposed to happen that way (it didn't make sense to him, he seemed to see it as impossible). The set-up for this series is apparently that flashforwards are truly only "possible" futures, and there is no way of knowing for sure which future will result until it actually happens, due to variables such as "free will" (romantic notion) and/or randomness/chaos theory type stuff no doubt. That said, not really consistent with the fact that Frost recorded that message in Somalia in the far past for Demetri, and that ended up working out exactly as he planned it to/foresaw (ie. Demetri ending up in Somalia playing and seeing that message). Frost was clearly prepared for and accurately predicted many things exactly. And yet in the end he was truly surprised? Perhaps when it comes to your own death, you are not able to see that clearly or some mumbo-jumbo like that. Anyway, all possible futures seem to lead to or converge upon the same ultimate point--Dec 12, 2016--as Frost has apparently never been able to see beyond that point. This implies that the event on that date is not so much a mere possibility or even a probability, but an unavoidable eventuality--a sure thing. This probably drove Frost a little coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs.

Sounds like Frost may be a little like you (chances are if you make enough predictions one them will be right or close to the truth). He probably DIDN'T know for sure whether or not Demetri would see his video message in Somalia. Maybe he actually made SEVERAL video messages and that was the only one Demetri actually saw.

[InactiveUserID]

Well, the bad guys have been doing their homework too, not just Frost.
They've been sneaking extra peaks into the timeline so they could catch up to Frost.
And being prepared is half the battle, G.I. Joe!
So by being well-read in the future, that probably allows someone to beat fate to the punch and start "defeating" the events seen in people's flash-forwards.
That's why they knew to spring that bimbo out of jail just in time so she could assassinate him. Maybe Frost wasn't facing that kind of super-informed enemy in the majority of the futures he glimpsed.

[Karafan1]

4 hours 47 minutes until the new episode!!!!!

[Lenz]

I just don't understand why are there so little fans watching this show dammit. I download it from the net and I can't wait for Thursday to come. It's an awesome thriller. But hey I guess some are better off watching cheesy comedies or teen dramas instead of some quality TV.

Hi Andyville.
First of all, I blame LOST. :lol:
I am a LOST fan and what that show has done to me and many others has caused us to have a state of mind that scrutinizes every detail... in many cases over scrutinize.
The problem is that FlashForward cannot bear up under such scrutiny (funny thing is... neither can LOST, IMO). Actually, most TV shows can't.

That being said, I wonder if over scrutinizing is really to blame for being turned off by things like this, for example: Janis accompanying Simon to his folks home in Toronto, and Simon having to sneak away, etc.
Here's the problem- Janis is an FBI agent. She has no jurisdiction whatsoever in Canada, whereas Simon is a Canadian. He can do whatever he wants once he crosses that border, he can poke her in the eye if he wanted to, and she wouldn't be able to do anything about it ('cept maybe poke him back :)).

Maybe it's just me but things like that tend to stand out in such a way that they are to much of a distraction from enjoying the show. There are several such items in each episode.

In short, there is a problem with 'the suspension of disbelief' of not just the fantastic elements, but even with things where it shouldn't even enter into it.

But if you enjoy it... that's cool.

[Superboy2]

I enjoy it and I hope that it gets renewed.

[Karafan1]

Another great episode tonight! This Janis stuff is getting interesting!!!! Looks like they're gonna wait until the absolute last second to have Bryce and Keiko meet!!

[dru-zod2501]

a little Janice backstory never hurt. I knew my girl couldn't be all bad, and this week was vindication. Whew, I was mad that they'd fooled me to like a villain, but Janice is in some dire straits indeed, just trying to make the best of a ****ty situation. Vogel still seems shifty to me I really don't trust him.

Aaron's story was really shoehorned in, but it had to come in somewhere; I'm glad it didn't take up too much time

[kotak07]

i believe this show deserves its own forum section now. its become such a good show and even though its in its first season it shows a lot of promise. Posting in one thread doesnt give us room for spoilers and other discussion.

On another note, thursdays show was amazing. janis triple mole was a fantastic twist in the story. Ratings for the show dipped a little bit as did viewership but hopefuly stay constant enough for them to renew a second season.

[disciples of zod]

really enjoyed this week's episode. excited about what direction this show is going to take!!! :)

~K

[Xanderman]

Well whadya know, for the first time in the series I actually kind of like Janis. (Thanks to the ending.) Before that ending I couldn't believe what a total b**** she was being made out to be, even bigger than I already thought she was before this episode and for most of the season for that matter, as now we were finding out she was betraying everyone just for a damn payoff. Made her seem completely evil and surprisingly easily corrupted (too easily corrupted).

The Vogel twist was a cool surprise. He was already in the picture well before he showed up for the joint FBI/CIA investigation apparently. Given that he somehow knew about the blackout event well beforehand, along with that flashforward of him saying that Mark was dead, it seems probable that he actually works with the same people he told Janis to pretend to sell out to. Meaning he tricked Janis into being a mole. This would mean that those two women likely fully knew that Janis was only pretending to have been bought, but it didn't matter, because they had her services either way. Janis got chumped.

Finally, given the talk of God in this ep (and others) by Fake Beard and his Afghan friend, seems likely they will go the route of December 12, 2016 being seen as a biblical Judgment Day. And while it's clear there are various "players" here, my guess is that ultimately everyone is trying to do the same thing--prevent this Judgment Day. Some are willing to do whatever they have to (including murder) to accomplish this. Maybe though, there are people who are trying to ensure this "end of days" comes to pass, perhaps religious fanatics, and are eliminating anyone/thing that stands in the way.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I wonder if it will be a literal Judgment Day (ie the world blows up and everyone dies) or if it will be like what happens when a computer crashes. Too many wires get crossed. Too many programs running and malfunctioning at once. Maybe if the world blacks out again (and for too long) and too many contradictory "possible" futures start playing out simultaneously, the entire population could just "freeze" and end up trapped in comas or something. Unless they had a ring on, of course. Just a thought.

[Spirit Detective]

Well whadya know, for the first time in the series I actually kind of like Janis. (Thanks to the ending.) Before that ending I couldn't believe what a total b**** she was being made out to be, even bigger than I already thought she was before this episode and for most of the season for that matter, as now we were finding out she was betraying everyone just for a damn payoff. Made her seem completely evil and surprisingly easily corrupted (too easily corrupted).

The Vogel twist was a cool surprise. He was already in the picture well before he showed up for the joint FBI/CIA investigation apparently. Given that he somehow knew about the blackout event well beforehand, along with that flashforward of him saying that Mark was dead, it seems probable that he actually works with the same people he told Janis to pretend to sell out to. Meaning he tricked Janis into being a mole. This would mean that those two women likely fully knew that Janis was only pretending to have been bought, but it didn't matter, because they had her services either way. Janis got chumped.

Finally, given the talk of God in this ep (and others) by Fake Beard and his Afghan friend, seems likely they will go the route of December 12, 2016 being seen as a biblical Judgment Day. And while it's clear there are various "players" here, my guess is that ultimately everyone is trying to do the same thing--prevent this Judgment Day. Some are willing to do whatever they have to (including murder) to accomplish this. Maybe though, there are people who are trying to ensure this "end of days" comes to pass, perhaps religious fanatics, and are eliminating anyone/thing that stands in the way.

I was hating Janis until we found out she was a double agent. Seriously though? 2016? Do the writers really expect us to stick with this show for 6 + seasons? I really hope the show comes back, but I doubt it will last that long.

[kotak07]

some shows are unexpected. supernatural, smallville, lost, house, 24 who ever thought those would stay this long. if viewership is steady then it'll come back. and its steady in the 5-6 million range right now. hopefully the show can keep good episodes coming and increase viewership a bit.

[Karafan1]

1 hour 54 minutes until the new episode!!!!!!

[Kevin24]

Olivia gets on my damn nerves. Everytime she is on screen I just want to turn the channel. She is kissing load and having romantic strolling the park with Lloyd? Come on now....Mark deserves better than that. She has to be the single worst character in television history.

[InactiveUserID]

Having trouble remembering what happened on last night's. Probably more betrayal. Oh yeah, the hobbit took the One Ring and is now headed for Mt. Doom! The Fellowship of the Ring is broken.

[dru-zod2501]

Having trouble remembering what happened on last night's. Probably more betrayal. Oh yeah, the hobbit took the One Ring and is now headed for Mt. Doom! The Fellowship of the Ring is broken.
:lol:

This week's lesson? Fate sucks. it really does

[Trackster]

Yeah, Olivia has quickly become my least favorite character on the show. Mark should have given Lloyd a flying donkey kick as soon as he saw Olivia in the room.

[dru-zod2501]

Yeah, Olivia has quickly become my least favorite character on the show. Mark should have given Lloyd a flying donkey kick as soon as he saw Olivia in the room.
huh, Jealous much? He didn't know definitively anything happened. Going off like a half-cocked bull would've made things worse. I think Mark handled it the right way

[Trackster]

Well, there was a bottle of wine sitting on the table too. You could tell by his expression throughout his conversation with Lloyd that he pretty well knew.

You're definitely right that he handled it correctly, but I still wouldn't have minded seeing him light into Lloyd.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

THAT'S what you guys got out of last night's episode? Seriously? Wow. Personally, I was taken by the Celia storyline myself. Al basically died for nothing. Celia is STILL going to die. I loved that they brought back Callum Keith Rennie's character. They brought the blue hand and Celia storylines together very seamlessly. And I think it SHOULD beg the question, is Demetri REALLY safe? I have a feeling he's still going to die, perhaps in the finale and probably as the result of something Mark does. Maybe a struggle for a gun ends in Demetri getting accidentally shot. I love the twists and turns of this show. The longer I watch, the more hooked I get. It's probably replaced Smallville as my new favorite.

[Trackster]

No, that is not all I got out of the episode. It was just part of what stood out. I felt like it was a pretty big part of the series to this point when Mark was at Lloyd's door and saw Olivia at the table. But, I agree, I liked how they tied storylines together and that the killer wasn't just some random guy who hadn't been in the series. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with Demetri.

[Xanderman]

Enjoyable ep as always but I'm not a fan of the destiny crap at all. I don't want "Final Destination" here, I want logical science. You can't say a person's destined to die as per a flashforward, have them avoid that specific death, and then have them die anyway because the universe has a way of balancing itself out or whatever nonsense like that, and then have people like Al be dead when in his vision he was very much alive. If the Flashes truly represent how things SHOULD be in the future (which goes against the idea of these only representing POSSIBLE futures), then Al should be alive in the future, not dead. Shouldn't the universe be finding a way to correct that, by resurrecting him as a zombie or something? lol I guess a person can only be "destined to die", and the universe only cares about "correcting" that. If a person was supposed to be alive but they die instead, the universe is fine with that apparently and won't let out a huge fart because of the paradox. They'd better not make Demetri die because it's his "destiny" (ugh). I'm hoping the Cecelia thing just ends up being a "freak coincidence". Please leave out the destiny crap, show. Because that's what it is. Crap.



Having trouble remembering what happened on last night's. Probably more betrayal. Oh yeah, the hobbit took the One Ring and is now headed for Mt. Doom! The Fellowship of the Ring is broken.Lol. What is it with magical rings this tv season. FlashForward's got its "quantum entanglement" rings, and Vampire Diaries has got rings for just about everything--to survive sunlight, to resurrect from death, etc. And of course Smallville had its various kryptonite rings.


Mark should have given Lloyd a flying donkey kick as soon as he saw Olivia in the room.:lol: Indeed he should have.

[dru-zod2501]

THAT'S what you guys got out of last night's episode? Seriously? Wow. Personally, I was taken by the Celia storyline myself. Al basically died for nothing. Celia is STILL going to die. I loved that they brought back Callum Keith Rennie's character. They brought the blue hand and Celia storylines together very seamlessly. And I think it SHOULD beg the question, is Demetri REALLY safe? I have a feeling he's still going to die, perhaps in the finale and probably as the result of something Mark does. Maybe a struggle for a gun ends in Demetri getting accidentally shot. I love the twists and turns of this show. The longer I watch, the more hooked I get. It's probably replaced Smallville as my new favorite.
If for no other reason, Demetri can't die before he deals with the consequences of knocking up Janice while engaged to another. Now that Demetri thinks he's safe, he really did it for nothing, but he might soon wish he was dead when it all hits the fan. That time bomb is too juicy for TPTB to ignore

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I still think Demetri will die. Probably in the finale. Possibly at some point BEFORE his fiance's trip to Hawaii.

[Karafan1]

5 hours 13 minutes until the new episode!!!

[vyperman7]

Has it been confirmed one way or the other about Flashforward's future after this season? Is it going to be canceled?

[The Dark Knight74]

Craig just tweeted this a little bit ago:

Entertainment Weekly's @MichaelAusiello (http://twitter.com/MichaelAusiello) is reporting that #FlashForward (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23FlashForward) has been canceled.

I have to say I am disappointed but not surprised.

[Karafan1]

Ahh crap!!!!!!!:mad::(

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Will they atleast finish out the season?

[vyperman7]

FlashForward was a good show. It is a shame to see it go. If I had to guess, they probably would have had S1 end with a cliffhanger of the second blackout starting, and then the second season would deal with the fall out of it and trying to stop the people responsible. I am just hoping that they can give it a proper ending.

[disciples of zod]

Craig just tweeted this a little bit ago:

Entertainment Weekly's @MichaelAusiello (http://twitter.com/MichaelAusiello) is reporting that #FlashForward (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23FlashForward) has been canceled.

I have to say I am disappointed but not surprised.

NO!!!!!!!! that sucks so bad!!!! :(

~K

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

They can't cancel the show!!! It's way too good to be canceled!! :\

[dru-zod2501]

How the heck did this happen? This show had consistant and quite sharp writing and characterization; sure it wasn't Human Target, but there was no shortage of action to be found; and the mystery kept getting deeper with every episode. So why didn't it click with the audience?? I JUST DONT GET IT!!!!

[darkphoenix21]

^^^Cause of other programing on other networks especially the big ones CBS, NBC. Put that doesn't mean another network can't pick it up.

[InactiveUserID]

It was a single-concept show, and the TV exec's rulebook says if a show is based around a single concept it should last for a single season. I kind of agree. All they had for season 2 was....... Oh, no! The flashforwards happened again!

You could say that 24 is only one concept too, and it lasted for a decade, but that show connected more with viewers and it was sooooo clearly going somewhere that people knew they could trust it to progress. I think Flash's timeline was more of a sputtering one, and it'd be easy for the execs (and the national audience) to look at the show and ask "Is this going anywhere? Really? Because it's hard to tell, and all we know for sure is that it's a big expense. So...."

Maybe a Flashforward movie? Like Stargate and Arrested Development have done!!!

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Craig just tweeted this a little bit ago:

Entertainment Weekly's @MichaelAusiello (http://twitter.com/MichaelAusiello) is reporting that #FlashForward (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23FlashForward) has been canceled.

I have to say I am disappointed but not surprised.

AWWWWW FUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE!!!:mad:

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These TV execs are jumping the gun on canceling shows IMO. It has gotten absolutely silly now. Every time I get hooked on a show, it gets the ax. It's getting to the point that I don't WANT to get hooked on new shows for fear of this happening. I used to like the Sarah Connor Chronicles. That got axed. My Own Worst Enemy. Gone. Flashforward, gone. This stinks.

[The Dark Knight74]

Ahh crap!!!!!!!:mad::(

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Will they atleast finish out the season?

Yeah, they are gonna air the final 2 eps.

[dru-zod2501]

At least they could give us some movies out of it, where the Flashforward tech is destroyed and there are no more "possible futures" to be flashorwarded to. Thus returning the world to pre-blackout uncertainty

[The Dark Knight74]

FlashForward was a good show. It is a shame to see it go. If I had to guess, they probably would have had S1 end with a cliffhanger of the second blackout starting, and then the second season would deal with the fall out of it and trying to stop the people responsible. I am just hoping that they can give it a proper ending.

Kristin (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b181045_will_flashforwards_series_finale_leave.htm l) at E! has a small interview w/Sonya Walger(Olivia) and she says that there is some closure but a lot is left unexplained.

[Xanderman]

Crap, another great one bites the dust. This stinks indeed. Any chance of this getting picked up by another network or is that a longshot...oh well. At least ABC's other sci-fi show V got renewed apparently. Fun show. Not nearly as smart or intriguing/compelling as this show was, but still fun. I thought FlashForward was meant to be a replacement for Lost...V's no Lost. FF was the closest substitute. Heroes is gone too apparently, similar genre. Oh well, at least there's still Fringe...

[LucyLaneClarkKent4vr]

I honestly, watched this show, because I'm a huge Peyton List fan (Nicole Kirby) and I couldn't believe this show got axed. It was a really great show, had lots of characters whose pasts kinda interconnected with each other. Like people getting tied up with each others' Flashforwards. My parents both watched this show with me for the past four weeks, and asked me if this show is going to continue onwards. Some episodes don't make much sense, but at least every character's storylines worked out quite well. If you see it from the beginning, you make perfect sense of the future episodes. But there's lots of shows I loved, that got axed. And Flashforward, just had to be one of them... :\

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I sure hope they can tie all of this up in just 2 more episodes. No cliffhangers please.

[Atomic girl]

This show started off with a bang and then fizzled a bit. It picked up again with the Simon's sister being kidnapped, but they just couldn't maintain the show's excitement. It was still better than alot of other stuff on TV, but I can see why this one went. But I did like this one better than "V", but not as much as The Forgotten.

[Karafan1]

2 hours 39 minutes until the new episode!!

[ReignoftheSupermen]

This show started off with a bang and then fizzled a bit. It picked up again with the Simon's sister being kidnapped, but they just couldn't maintain the show's excitement. It was still better than alot of other stuff on TV, but I can see why this one went. But I did like this one better than "V", but not as much as The Forgotten.

Couldn't disagree more. The longer it went, the MORE interested I became. I love how everything is coming together. A future that looked impossible now seems very realistic. I especially loved the stuff in Somalia. The mystery tower built one year before it was conceived. And the Demetri stuff if very intriguing. I think people may have lost interest because of the long break. But the quality of the show didn't suffer at all IMO.

[Karafan1]

27 minutes!!

[disciples of zod]

w00t!! getting ready to go watch! 15 minutes!!! :D

~K

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Next week's episode is going to be spectacular. Wow, did Mark spiral out of control in a hurry.

[Xanderman]

Good ep. Interesting how they're making futures not happening as foreseen. Even Fake Beard, who was trying to make the future he saw a reality, got a different result instead. So it really is just possible futures, as others (not me) have said from the beginning. I thought they were going to do some sort of causal loop/future-creating-the-past sort of thing--which ultimately would have been much more limiting. This approach lets them do a lot more. That said, this approach begs the question of how many if not most of the foreseen futures could have ever actually happened. If a future is "possible", and a person is actively trying to reach it, then it should be reached. But in many cases, we've seen that both trying to avoid and trying to reach particular futures don't necessarily lead to them. Kinda stupid, but whatever. But I'm sure they're going to have at least a FEW of the flashes happen exactly as foreseen. Otherwise, it's dumb.

And seeing as the show's not coming back, it's hard to get overly excited about how ever this season (now series) happens to end. I wonder if they already filmed everything before they knew their fate. If so, no doubt we're going to be left with a cliffhanger ending and/or a mystery far from fully solved. By the way, on the show's wiki page, it says "ABC confirmed on May 14, 2010 that the show has been cancelled. In an interview with Time Magazine, co-creator David S. Goyer said, "I never saw it coming." (Pun intended no doubt? :lol: )

And I agree with ReignoftheSupermen, this show never fizzled (not in any significant way anyway). Great show, always enjoyable, and almost always exciting/suspense-filled. To quote Morpheus (from Reloaded), "I have dreamed a dream...but now that dream has gone from me." (Now THAT's what David Goyer should have said. heh)

[vyperman7]

So I guess this means that we get yet another show that ends with a cliffhanger and no real resolution... :( I was hoping that Flashforward would get a clear cut ending.

Xander, I always love reading your reviews bro. By the way, you take the beloved title of "couch potato" to a whole new level. I thought I watched a lot of TV, but you watch so many shows man. It is hard to keep up sometimes..LOL If it was coming from anyone else, being called a couch potato wouldn't be meant as a compliment, but it is coming from me. I have another show you should add to your list - Castle on ABC. Fantastic show. Great chemistry between the two leads, great supporting cast, and the writing is decent. Plus, how can you go wrong with Nathan Fillion? I assume you watched/loved Firefly right? By the way, I still crack up when watching that BB intro that John made way back in the day. It is a shame Lucas was never brought back. Long live the Bash Bros..

Finally, did you stop watching Smallville? Haven't seen any reviews from you in awhile for Smallville. The season finale this year actually wasn't too terrible. Better than the last three IMO.

[Xanderman]

So I guess this means that we get yet another show that ends with a cliffhanger and no real resolution... :( I was hoping that Flashforward would get a clear cut ending.The mystery/conspiracy component of this show reminded me of John Doe a lot. The secret organizations, the shady characters (Suspect Zero, D. Gibbons, etc). I often got John Doe vibes during the season. I find myself often seeing John Doe in shows or comparing them to it in some way. I guess J.D. became sort of a benchmark for me as to what great tv should be like.


I thought I watched a lot of TV, but you watch so many shows man. Mostly sci-fi/fantasy, with the exception of a few. (By the way, based on our past convos, you watch a lot of shows I don't, so I'd say we're equal junkies.:cool: heh)


I have another show you should add to your list - Castle on ABC. Fantastic show. Great chemistry between the two leads, great supporting cast, and the writing is decent.I've posted on the Castle thread, but that was back in season 1 and then I stopped watching. But I decided to catch up recently, and I'm up to episode 8 of the 2nd season. Great season, an improvement on 1. It's basically Lois & Clark without the super powers, right. But mostly, as I've said on the Castle thread, Castle is ABC's answer to CBS's Mentalist.


Finally, did you stop watching Smallville? Haven't seen any reviews from you in awhile for Smallville. The season finale this year actually wasn't too terrible. Better than the last three IMO.Yeah still watching...cringed my way through most of the season actually. Lol lots and lots of lame eps this season... But it had its bright spots here and there I suppose. And I agree, the finale was actually pretty good, I was surprised.

[vyperman7]

The mystery/conspiracy component of this show reminded me of John Doe a lot. The secret organizations, the shady characters (Suspect Zero, D. Gibbons, etc). I often got John Doe vibes during the season. I find myself often seeing John Doe in shows or comparing them to it in some way. I guess J.D. became sort of a benchmark for me as to what great tv should be like.

I've posted on the Castle thread, but that was back in season 1 and then I stopped watching. But I decided to catch up recently, and I'm up to episode 8 of the 2nd season. Great season, an improvement on 1. It's basically Lois & Clark without the super powers, right. But mostly, as I've said on the Castle thread, Castle is ABC's answer to CBS's Mentalist.

Yeah still watching...cringed my way through most of the season actually. Lol lots and lots of lame eps this season... But it had its bright spots here and there I suppose. And I agree, the finale was actually pretty good, I was surprised.

Yeah John Doe is a freaking awesome show and I could see hints of it in Flashforward as well. It really is a shame that we won't get any resolution. In regards to J.D., I actually have every episode on my external drive. It has been awhile since I watched the show, but I will probably watch it again in the next 3-4 months. I still think that the Digger cliffhanger is the best twist in the last ten years. I can usually predict twists/endings, but even I didn't see that coming, J.D. rules.. Castle S2 was good. However, the finale SUCKS. Hated it. I am just glad that Castle got a S3 so it has a chance to redeem itself. Xander, I also HIGHLY recommend a show called Now and Again. I think you will really enjoy it. Read the Wikipedia on it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_and_Again

I think what I didn't like most about Smallville's S9 was :

1) The lame Kandorian sub-plot with Clark trying to get them assimilated. The Kandorians didn't really add anything to the show at all. It would have been much better if it had just been Zod in my opinion. Callum Blue was great and his scenes with Tess were always good too.

2) Clois post Pandora. The build up to the relationship was actually pretty good, and then after they got together in Pandora, nothing much happened. They seemed way too akward like they were on the first date that never ended.. Then just as things FINALLY start to get better, they break up because "Lois has to find herself". Then with no explanation, they are back together in the finale again with Lois saying she would stay for Clark?

I am just hoping that flight gets its own episode next season. It would be pretty lame for every other power to get an episode, and the coolest power to be randomly thrown into an episode. A good spot to do it would be the 200th episode. I would love it if they did a previously on Smallville montage at the beginning that started with Clark crashing in bed in Metomorphosis, then the soundbyte of Johnathan talking about defying gravity, then a VO for Clark saying he felt like flying in Vortex over the tornado save, and some flying spots from Crusade with Jonathan asking about Clark flying. I really want them to build it up.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Good ep. Interesting how they're making futures not happening as foreseen. Even Fake Beard, who was trying to make the future he saw a reality, got a different result instead. So it really is just possible futures, as others (not me) have said from the beginning. I thought they were going to do some sort of causal loop/future-creating-the-past sort of thing--which ultimately would have been much more limiting. This approach lets them do a lot more. That said, this approach begs the question of how many if not most of the foreseen futures could have ever actually happened. If a future is "possible", and a person is actively trying to reach it, then it should be reached. But in many cases, we've seen that both trying to avoid and trying to reach particular futures don't necessarily lead to them. Kinda stupid, but whatever. But I'm sure they're going to have at least a FEW of the flashes happen exactly as foreseen. Otherwise, it's dumb.

And seeing as the show's not coming back, it's hard to get overly excited about how ever this season (now series) happens to end. I wonder if they already filmed everything before they knew their fate. If so, no doubt we're going to be left with a cliffhanger ending and/or a mystery far from fully solved. By the way, on the show's wiki page, it says "ABC confirmed on May 14, 2010 that the show has been cancelled. In an interview with Time Magazine, co-creator David S. Goyer said, "I never saw it coming." (Pun intended no doubt? :lol: )

And I agree with ReignoftheSupermen, this show never fizzled (not in any significant way anyway). Great show, always enjoyable, and almost always exciting/suspense-filled. To quote Morpheus (from Reloaded), "I have dreamed a dream...but now that dream has gone from me." (Now THAT's what David Goyer should have said. heh)

I think it was Gabriel who said that these futures are "trying to happen". Even if steps are taken to prevent something in one instance, they still end up happening in a similar way (ie Celia getting hit by a car, different driver). I agree with that. At least for this particular show anyway. It's as if there's some cosmic force pushing things in a certain direction. Which is why I still think Demetri dies on Thursday. Love this show. Sad to see it go.

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So, what new show looks good for NEXT season? Careful though. I seem to be jinxed. All the shows I start following end up getting canned.

[Karafan1]

FlashForward finale in 4 hours 24 minutes!!

[Karafan1]

It can't end like that!!!! Season 2 please!!!!!!!!



Anybody know the name/artist of the song that was playeddurning the 2nd blackout?

[GuardianAngel]

What?? They cancelled it with a finale like that? I kept holdig my breath hoping for some resolution but it's unfinished like that. they should do a TV movie to wrap it up!

[Kevin24]

Damn, it is such a shame that "Flashforward" was canceled. It has been one of the better shows on TV and I am disappointed that ABC renewed "V" over "FlashForward". I am happy that Mark Benford did not die in that explosion and that Charlie knows that her father is not dead.

Lloyd and Olivia has to be the worst couple on television.

[GuardianAngel]

^Definitely. I simply could not stand that couple. I watched the whole series and even read the book, just out of curiosity. But the Lloyd and Olivia business pissed me off.

It's such a pity we won't be seeing any more episodes. There are tonnes of unanswered questions which could have lead to a very interesting season 2, IMHO.

I've watched V, too, and I agree it didn't deserve to be renewed. Despite what the producers and writers promised, I didn't see all the action and the season finale was a real letdown.

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The song should be "The Funeral" by Band of Horses.

[Karafan1]

Eventhough I love V, the way FlashForward ended, I wish it had been renewed instead of V!

Thanks for the song info, Rick!!!

[GuardianAngel]

^You're welcome!

[ReignoftheSupermen]

Damn, it is such a shame that "Flashforward" was canceled. It has been one of the better shows on TV and I am disappointed that ABC renewed "V" over "FlashForward". I am happy that Mark Benford did not die in that explosion and that Charlie knows that her father is not dead.

Lloyd and Olivia has to be the worst couple on television.

Do we know Mark survived? I don't think we do. Seems pretty clear to me he died. He was still in the building when the 2nd blackout happened, which means he blew up with the building. When Charlie said "They found him", I don't think they were talking about Mark. She looked several years older in that scene. I think it was probably a different "him".

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Loved the finale though. It was great seeing everything coming together. I actually went back and rewatched the pilot after the finale. Kind of neat seeing it again knowing how things turned out.

[superhippie2000]

maybe she found jacob :lol:

well now the show is over we can say he is dead. if the series came back chances are hed still be alive. probably got thrown from the force and landed on the gaurd rail of the helicopter.

[targis]

They cancelled it with the ending it had.

Why even give another flashforward at the end?

[GuardianAngel]

^ maybe they were (and are) hoping another network picks up the show and lets them develop it more, possibly by cutting down the cast. With an episode like "Future Shock" there would be plenty of material for at least another season.

[superhippie2000]

They cancelled it with the ending it had.

Why even give another flashforward at the end?
im guessing cause it was cancelled after the episode was filmed. some series (like the forgotten) were cancelled before the last episode was made but were allowed to finish out the season so they were able to have a some what proper ending.

[ReignoftheSupermen]

maybe she found jacob :lol:

well now the show is over we can say he is dead. if the series came back chances are hed still be alive. probably got thrown from the force and landed on the gaurd rail of the helicopter.

The only thing that could have saved Mark would be the water at the bottom of the FBI building. But then again, that didn't really help Al...

[Karafan1]

That's a shallow pool and if that doesn't kill him, from that high up, hitting the water at that speed would..

[Xanderman]

Like Jeff said, now that the show is over we can say Mark died there, sure why not. But clearly if it were returning, the main character and hero would return right along with it. We've all seen enough tv to know if we don't actually "see" the main hero die/their dead body, especially when it comes to deaths by fire or explosion, chances are they found a way out alive. It's a given.

I wasn't overly impressed with the season finale, I was expecting more. They could have made the next blackout's flashforwards a lot more interesting/compelling. How many did they even show? Anyway doesn't matter, show's in the crapper. Can't believe they made Mark's wife such a ho bag...lol poor guy phones her to tell her he loves her, meanwhile she's undoubtedly ready to jump in the sack with Lloyd the moment he decides to take his shirt off. lol I also wasn't a fan of the flashes happening with slight variations. Because how exactly do the "original flashes" ever happen then? Or, how are they even "possible" futures? Anyway, once again doesn't matter, show's gone.



I think it was Gabriel who said that these futures are "trying to happen". Even if steps are taken to prevent something in one instance, they still end up happening in a similar way (ie Celia getting hit by a car, different driver). I agree with that. At least for this particular show anyway. It's as if there's some cosmic force pushing things in a certain direction. Which is why I still think Demetri dies on Thursday.I'm not a fan of that concept myself... As I've said, I don't want "destiny" that only relates to death. It's silly. Like I've said, Al and Abdi both saw themselves alive in their flashes. But they died -- how exactly will the universe "course correct" for those little blunders? Zombie resurrections? lol I'm fine with the idea of these being possible futures, with some futures being more probable or likely than others to occur and so more difficult to avoid. I just don't want Final Destination. Anyway, this is all moot now since it's cancelled.


So, what new show looks good for NEXT season? Don't know...


I seem to be jinxed. All the shows I start following end up getting canned.There's a simple solution to that...stop watching shows you like. Instead, spend your time following shows you don't give a crap about.:lol: Just kidding. But seriously I'm sure we can all relate.



I still think that the Digger cliffhanger is the best twist in the last ten years. I can usually predict twists/endings, but even I didn't see that comingMe neither. But now, thanks to John Doe it's easier to see these kinds of twists coming, I'm sure you'll agree.


I also HIGHLY recommend a show called Now and Again. I think you will really enjoy it. Read the Wikipedia on it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_and_AgainI'd love to see it bro but it's not on dvd or anything...any idea how/where I'd be able to see it?


I am just hoping that flight gets its own episode next season. It would be pretty lame for every other power to get an episode, and the coolest power to be randomly thrown into an episode.Flight is probably too expensive or difficult an effect to do regularly so I doubt we'll get it...unless they do what Lois & Clark did most of the time, which was showing partially off-screen take-offs, hearing the requisite 'whoosh' sounds and all. I thought the super-breath episode name was a horrible idea..."Sneeze" ? Ugh, right? They should have called the episode "Breath" (to keep in line with "X-Ray", "Heat", etc.). And really, when you think about it, Clark should have had super breath ever since he discovered super strength. They're connected abilities to me. Nonsense.


I would love it if they did a previously on Smallville montage at the beginning that started with Clark crashing in bed in Metomorphosis, then the soundbyte of Johnathan talking about defying gravity, then a VO for Clark saying he felt like flying in Vortex over the tornado save, and some flying spots from Crusade with Jonathan asking about Clark flying. I really want them to build it up.Given the cheesy way they handled super breath (sneezing), I wouldn't hold my breath. heh (pun intended) But yeah, something like that would be cool, however if they start the episode that way, it's sort of a spoiler or dead giveaway of what's to come (ie. Clark will learn to fly in the episode).

[ReignoftheSupermen]

I wasn't overly impressed with the season finale, I was expecting more.

It needed to be 2 hours. It would have been nice to see a lot of things they just didn't have time to shoe-horn in. The old man Nazi coming to America. Celia's fate. Zoe in Hawaii. Even the D. Gibbons phone call (the cupcake shop owner) would have been a nice touch. They exposed us to sooo many people's flashforwards over the course of the season yet we didn't really see very many play out in the finale. A second hour was needed for sure.

[Karafan1]

The FlashForward full season dvd set comes out August 31st...I'll have to get it to have proof the show existed since ABC gave it the ax after 1 season!!:mad:

[InactiveUserID]

Now that this show is over, can ABC please go back to doing that space show I liked last summer which they also cancelled? There was a ship to mars and some kind of alien intelligence NASA kept locked up in a broom closet was giving them visions. Similar to flash forward, really. Only with Mars thrown in. Then after season 2 of that, next year they could come back with Flash Forward season 2, after waiting long enough to grow anticipation for it. :rotfl: