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herolee10
04-04-2009, 07:45 PM
some people may not have enjoyed it as much..but I thought that the most dramatic moment in this episode was the scene featuring Davis in the Kryptonite cage with Chloe having pulled the trigger to stop his Doomsday persona from attacking Clark.

It was in my opinion, very sad to watch..and the music...god..the music playing in the background as Davis looked at Chloe for what he thought was the last time..with Chloe touching the screen with her hand, and Davis touching back..that was great acting.

Sam and AM just nailed this scene for me.

Davis Bloome
04-04-2009, 07:49 PM
I really thought it was one of the best scenes of this season. Eternal, Prey and Bride are probably my favourite episodes of the season. It was a very cool moment and it was touching to see Chloe cry how she couldn't kill Davis. Some might find it too mushy in what he said, too corny. But I liked it.

SnowBird
04-04-2009, 08:12 PM
Allison is always good at turning on the tears and making sad scenes believable. I just wish Chloe hadn't forgotten her husband so quick to become involved with Davis. I guess Davis will be known as the re-bound boy.

alejandrita439
04-04-2009, 08:27 PM
i think that was an awesome scene :D
i love it :)

Davis Bloome
04-04-2009, 08:27 PM
I just don't think she was so much in love with Jimmy as she thought and hoped she was. I bet she felt incredibly guilty she didn't love Jimmy as much as Jimmy loved her. That's part of the tragedy in this story for me. She was indeed quickly over him, but considering that Jimmy seems to got over her also quickly, that doesn't surprise me. I mean I'm sure Jimmy feels all bad about it, but he didn't seem very forgiving to his love of his life in Turbulence. I thought he was too harsh on her. If you're in love you do your best to forgive and forget the mistakes your partner has made, but Jimmy didn't even try...

Autumn
04-04-2009, 08:38 PM
I thought it was one of the most beautiful and romantic scenes I have EVER seen on any show. I mean that seriously. I've watched that scene like at least thirty times now (probably more) and it gets better each time. I've been playing songs to the scene to see what I want to edit to, and to music, the scene is even more powerful. Nothing cheesy whatsoever. And the acting was just top notch. Allison and Sam together is just magic.

My favorite part had to be when she put her hand up and he turned to her. It was like their souls were connecting and they were speaking to each other with their eyes. Chloe spread her fingers and pretty much told Davis she wanted him to follow suit with his hand. It was moving. And then he lifted his fingers and they both purposely placed their fingers in between the others so it was as if their hands were intertwined. And Davis' smile? Tragic and just romantic. That scene was just so well done. I really think Chloe and Davis are epic and beautiful. Their soul connection was so believable that I felt it and that's rare. I mean, I really felt it. It was so powerful that I even got the impression that they were telling each other they loved each other with their eyes and their souls. Very moving.

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Allison is always good at turning on the tears and making sad scenes believable. I just wish Chloe hadn't forgotten her husband so quick to become involved with Davis. I guess Davis will be known as the re-bound boy.

I disagree. I personally see Jimmy as the rebound to Clark which is why I never saw Chimmy as an authentic couple. She always loved Clark more. With Davis, for me, it is completely different. He's the real deal I believe. True love. Chloe found it, and I think she's going to want to hold on to it.

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I just don't think she was so much in love with Jimmy as she thought and hoped she was. I bet she felt incredibly guilty she didn't love Jimmy as much as Jimmy loved her. That's part of the tragedy in this story for me. She was indeed quickly over him, but considering that Jimmy seems to got over her also quickly, that doesn't surprise me. I mean I'm sure Jimmy feels all bad about it, but he didn't seem very forgiving to his love of his life in Turbulence. I thought he was too harsh on her. If you're in love you do your best to forgive and forget the mistakes your partner has made, but Jimmy didn't even try...

I agree. She was never completely in love I think. She certainly didn't look too thrilled when Jimmy mentioned forever. She looked trapped. I'm sure she does feel guilty. And Jimmy certainly didn't fight very hard for Chloe, which I found interesting that Davis was surprised about. Davis automatically assumed Jimmy would fight for her like he would, but then again I believe Davis loves Chloe more than Jimmy ever did. Chloe and Jimmy were both lying to themselves.

In the dying scene, another powerful moment for me was Clark's reaction when he realized just how strong the bond was between Chloe and Davis. His face said all. He knows Chloe so well that I think it was interesting to see his reactions like "Wow, I didn't realize they cared about each so much." Just a great added touch to an already perfect scene.

Diego*Chloe
04-04-2009, 08:45 PM
I agree with you Autumn, Allison and Sam saved the episode for me IMO.

herolee10
04-04-2009, 08:48 PM
I thought it was one of the most beautiful and romantic scenes I have EVER seen on any show. I mean that seriously. I've watched that scene like at least thirty times now (probably more) and it gets better each time. I've been playing songs to the scene to see what I want to edit to, and to music, the scene is even more powerful. Nothing cheesy whatsoever. And the acting was just top notch. Allison and Sam together is just magic.

My favorite part had to be when she put her hand up and he turned to her. It was like their souls were connecting and they were speaking to each other with their eyes. Chloe spread her fingers and pretty much told Davis she wanted him to follow suit with his hand. It was moving. And then he lifted his fingers and they both purposely placed their fingers in between the others so it was as if their hands were intertwined. And Davis' smile? Tragic and just romantic. That scene was just so well done. I really think Chloe and Davis are epic and beautiful. Their soul connection was so believable that I felt it and that's rare. I mean, I really felt it. It was so powerful that I even got the impression that they were telling each other they loved each other with their eyes and their souls. Very moving.

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I disagree. I personally see Jimmy as the rebound to Clark which is why I never saw Chimmy as an authentic couple. She always loved Clark more. With Davis, for me, it is completely different. He's the real deal I believe. True love. Chloe found it, and I think she's going to want to hold on to it.

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I agree. She was never completely in love I think. She certainly didn't look too thrilled when Jimmy mentioned forever. She looked trapped. I'm sure she does feel guilty. And Jimmy certainly didn't fight very hard for Chloe, which I found interesting that Davis was surprised about. Davis automatically assumed Jimmy would fight for her like he would, but then again I believe Davis loves Chloe more than Jimmy ever did. Chloe and Jimmy were both lying to themselves.

In the dying scene, another powerful moment for me was Clark's reaction when he realized just how strong the bond was between Chloe and Davis. His face said all. He knows Chloe so well that I think it was interesting to see his reactions like "Wow, I didn't realize they cared about each so much." Just a great added touch to an already perfect scene.


I totally saw that. When Clark had asked Davis if there was something in his life worth taking another chance at things..they immediately focused on Davis looking at Chloe, and I think Chloe knew that she was the person that Davis was thinking about concerning the thing worth fighting for..and Clark saw that as well when he turned to look at her.

Autumn
04-04-2009, 08:50 PM
I agree with you Autumn, Allison and Sam saved the episode for me IMO.

Well, I don't know if I would call it saving, rather they made it one of my favorite television episodes of all time. I've watched their scenes countless times now, especially the cage death.

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I totally saw that. When Clark had asked Davis if there was something in his life worth taking another chance at things..they immediately focused on Davis looking at Chloe, and I think Chloe knew that she was the person that Davis was thinking about concerning the thing worth fighting for..and Clark saw that as well when he turned to look at her.

That was a powerful moment when Clark was like: "Isn't there anything in your life worth giving it another chance" pretty much and Davis just cried as he looked at Chloe. I loved how Clark turned to look at her and Chloe just looked down. She obviously knew Davis meant her and I believe her feelings for Davis are very real, and didn't want Clark to see how much this love was affecting her either. And then Davis said, "It's not about where your heart is, it's about what you've done and what you're going to do." I think that's exactly why Chloe was able to pull the lever. She knew, that even though her heart was also with Davis and his with hers, it was about what they both knew was going to happen. Clark and the world were in danger. Their hearts weren't what was important. Both of their sacrifices, though probably not the right move, was beautiful and heroic in my eyes.

SnowBird
04-04-2009, 09:44 PM
I disagree. I personally see Jimmy as the rebound to Clark which is why I never saw Chimmy as an authentic couple. She always loved Clark more. With Davis, for me, it is completely different. He's the real deal I believe. True love. Chloe found it, and I think she's going to want to hold on to it.

Chloe and Clark never dated and were only friends for years. Jimmy can't be a rebound. After Clark defeated Zod and came back to the Planet and asked Chloe about the kiss she planted on him, she said she didn't expect them to hook up and went with Jimmy for lunch.

When Chloe was hooked up to the lie detector, she said she was in love with only Jimmy. She wasn't zapped so she was in love with him at the time.

It seems like you ignore the facts to make Chloe and Davis fit into your ideal couble. You have the right to do this. If Chloe is in love with Davis after finding out he killed and burried the bodies in a field, then I guess it is true love.

Autumn
04-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Chloe and Clark never dated and were only friends for years. Jimmy can't be a rebound. After Clark defeated Zod and came back to the Planet and asked Chloe about the kiss she planted on him, she said she didn't expect them to hook up and went with Jimmy for lunch.

When Chloe was hooked up to the lie detector, she said she was in love with only Jimmy. She wasn't zapped so she was in love with him at the time.

It seems like you ignore the facts to make Chloe and Davis fit into your ideal couble. You have the right to do this. If Chloe is in love with Davis after finding out he killed and burried the bodies in a field, then I guess it is true love.

Clark has been the only man she's loved for years, so I see Jimmy as a rebound in the sense that she was looking for someone to be with after being rejected time and again. Jimmy was the first warm, interested body. Plus, she was running from that kiss. And Chloe could have used her Brainiac powers to beat the box. It's how I see it. I mean, why wouldn't she? She can use it to kill a man, but she can't use it to tell a lie she wants to believe in?? She never stopped loving Clark. The episodes before and after told me that.

I'm not ignoring any facts. All the facts have told me all season that Chloe and Jimmy were not meant to be and has foreshadowed Chlavis, which it seems is starting to come to pass. I don't have an ideal anything. Whatever. We will have to agree to disagree.

SnowBird
04-04-2009, 10:09 PM
Clark has been the only man she's loved for years, so I see Jimmy as a rebound in the sense that she was looking for someone to be with after being rejected time and again. Jimmy was the first warm, interested body. Plus, she was running from that kiss. And Chloe could have used her Brainiac powers to beat the box. It's how I see it. I mean, why wouldn't she? She can use it to kill a man, but she can't use it to tell a lie she wants to believe in?? She never stopped loving Clark. The episodes before and after told me that.

I'm not ignoring any facts. All the facts have told me all season that Chloe and Jimmy were not meant to be and has foreshadowed Chlavis, which it seems is starting to come to pass. I don't have an ideal anything. Whatever. We will have to agree to disagree.

I'm not sure what you mean by being rejected time and again. It was Chloe who broke it off with Clark after the tornado. She made light of the kiss with Clark in the DP. After the Fever letter resurfaced, Chloe was still more than ready to move on with Jimmy...She kept the feelings she had for Clark to herself so just where was the rejection?

We both see the Chloe and Davis relationship in different ways so we will just have to see how it plays out in future episodes.

luthorian
04-05-2009, 07:00 AM
It was definitely one of the best scenes ever. Loved it.

Dor el
04-05-2009, 11:14 AM
I'm one of those persons who believes Chloe has always loved Clark and who believes that Chloe has pretended to push Clark away because she has always known that Clark's heart did not belong to her. I believe her "rejections" of Clark were Chloe's way of protecting her heart. If she really wanted to break it off with Clark after the tornado when they were looking for Jonathan, why did she cry to Pete about Clark's eagerness to accept her offer to just be friends? No, I have never bought Chloe's undying love for Jimmy and I hope the writers do not resurrect that.

The cage death scene was powerful indeed. And I have to wonder if what Clark wanted to talk about afterwards was her feelings for Doomis as much as what she did to him. My gosh, he knows that she "killed" someone she cares a great deal about to protect him. If Clark is too think skulled to realize how much she cares for him and how much she has and will sacrifice for him, then Clark needs help. A lot of help; The kind that hurts a lot.

Hopefulsuicide
04-05-2009, 11:22 AM
I absolutely didn't feel it came off well at all... for a scene like that to be emotionally effective on me i have to identify with the characters decision... and i didn't... so the whole way through i couldn't feel sorry for Chloe because i didn't understand why she was doing it...

Vindellavon
04-05-2009, 11:24 AM
They nailed it, that's for sure. And may I say, Clark didn't look to happy seeing two hands imprint trangressed by glass.

Night_Hawk90
04-05-2009, 01:44 PM
i almost felt the bile coming up after watching that scene, its just so wrong

Dyanara
04-05-2009, 01:47 PM
Quick question...how much Kryptonite is lying around the country that there is a way to make a Kryptonite shower?

Autumn
04-05-2009, 03:49 PM
They nailed it, that's for sure. And may I say, Clark didn't look to happy seeing two hands imprint trangressed by glass.

Definitely nailed it and and I agree Clark didn't look too happy at all. I think he finally realized what a strong bond there was between Chloe and Davis.

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I absolutely didn't feel it came off well at all... for a scene like that to be emotionally effective on me i have to identify with the characters decision... and i didn't... so the whole way through i couldn't feel sorry for Chloe because i didn't understand why she was doing it...

You didn't understand she was trying to save Clark and the world?? I thought Davis trying to end the destruction he had no control over was noble and very touching personally, even though I'm hoping Clark is right that there is another way.

Davis Bloome
04-05-2009, 03:51 PM
Quick question...how much Kryptonite is lying around the country that there is a way to make a Kryptonite shower?Well wherever it is I'm sure Luthercorp has all the resources to get enough to make a Kryptonite shower...

Hopefulsuicide
04-05-2009, 04:10 PM
You didn't understand she was trying to save Clark and the world?? I thought Davis trying to end the destruction he had no control over was noble and very touching personally, even though I'm hoping Clark is right that there is another way.

It's difficult... when i think about it i do understand all the reasoning behind it. I think it all just happened so fast that i was going 'What, it didn't take her long to decide there was no other way'...

I understand Davis decision and attempt to kill himself completely. I'm just not sure i understand how someone could so quickly agree to doing something so huge, without even talking to Clark about it first or considering other ways to help Davis...

I mean if it were Clark, and he started going evil in a Jekyl and Hyde way, she would do EVERYTHING she could before accepting his suicide. So why could she so easily kill Davis... especially when later in the episode she changes her mind about it and decides there is a way to help him after all... well maybe if she had decided that before killing him with Kryptonite he wouldn't now be stronger!

NaYa
04-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Second best scene, next to "Bride" when Doomsday takes Chloe into the fortress!

Autumn
04-05-2009, 05:01 PM
It's difficult... when i think about it i do understand all the reasoning behind it. I think it all just happened so fast that i was going 'What, it didn't take her long to decide there was no other way'...

I understand Davis decision and attempt to kill himself completely. I'm just not sure i understand how someone could so quickly agree to doing something so huge, without even talking to Clark about it first or considering other ways to help Davis...

I mean if it were Clark, and he started going evil in a Jekyl and Hyde way, she would do EVERYTHING she could before accepting his suicide. So why could she so easily kill Davis... especially when later in the episode she changes her mind about it and decides there is a way to help him after all... well maybe if she had decided that before killing him with Kryptonite he wouldn't now be stronger!

I understand where you are coming from because I think they should have tried to find another way, but then you have Davis saying this is the only way and that he is meant to destroy Clark and then of course the world. And at first Chloe can't go through with it. She hesitates. It's only when Davis starts to transform and jumps at Clark that she pulls the lever in a moment of panic. I think Chloe wouldn't have gone through with it to begin with if Davis had let her know that his love for her (or something inside of her) helps control the beast within, but he didn't. He wanted to die because he can't live with what he's done (he doesn't want to be a monster and a killer and I certainly can't fault him for that). Now, however, Chloe is his only hope, his light. It's beautiful if you ask me. I think he loved her so much that he didn't want to drag her into his nightmare. Now neither of them have a choice. I hope their love can conquer over nature in the end.

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Second best scene, next to "Bride" when Doomsday takes Chloe into the fortress!

That scene was beautiful! So "La Belle et la Bete." But this one tops it for me because it was Davis and Chloe, instead of Doomsday and Chloe. That one is close though. :) Both are gorgeous scenes.

ginnyfan
04-05-2009, 05:06 PM
some people may not have enjoyed it as much..but I thought that the most dramatic moment in this episode was the scene featuring Davis in the Kryptonite cage with Chloe having pulled the trigger to stop his Doomsday persona from attacking Clark.

It was in my opinion, very sad to watch..and the music...god..the music playing in the background as Davis looked at Chloe for what he thought was the last time..with Chloe touching the screen with her hand, and Davis touching back..that was great acting.

Sam and AM just nailed this scene for me.

Sam and Allison did a great job and I loved the way the visuals echoed the end of "Turbulence." However my head was still spinning from Chloe finding out that Jimmy was telling the truth and not caring (about Jimmy) AND the dialog before the cage moment (Clark, Davis and Chloe) was so bad that... it diminished the power of the moment somewhat.

But when Chloe put her hand against the glass... oh... It was... yeah.

topping82
04-07-2009, 06:58 AM
The scene was epic and romantic, and the two actors have brilliant chemistry. You could really feel the connection between Chloe and Davis on screen.

mimi1123
04-07-2009, 04:02 PM
Not sad or romantic in any way. I don't feel the love between Chloe and Davis, and I knew Davis wouldn't die.

Moreover, all I could think of was Spock dying at the end of Star Trek II -- didn't anyone else feel that this scene was a total rip-off of that? Except it was much more sad (and believable) when Spock died.

rebecavaldez
04-07-2009, 04:56 PM
I think he could have "died" some other way.

mimi1123
04-07-2009, 06:33 PM
I know there must be some Star Trek fans out there. Didn't Davis dying in the poison krypton cage remind anyone of the famous scene in Star Trek II (Wrath of Kahn) when Spock dies in the radiation chamber? Both Davis and Spock slide down the see-through wall of their respective cage, with their hand up to the person on the other side (Chloe/Kirk). And of course they both come back to life (although it took Spock a little longer).

Tsigaro
04-07-2009, 07:58 PM
oh yea well said , i felt the same way...

allison and sam have great chemistry together.. its insane how they made that scene so intense.. you could really feel the love they have 4 each other...








I thought it was one of the most beautiful and romantic scenes I have EVER seen on any show. I mean that seriously. I've watched that scene like at least thirty times now (probably more) and it gets better each time. I've been playing songs to the scene to see what I want to edit to, and to music, the scene is even more powerful. Nothing cheesy whatsoever. And the acting was just top notch. Allison and Sam together is just magic.

My favorite part had to be when she put her hand up and he turned to her. It was like their souls were connecting and they were speaking to each other with their eyes. Chloe spread her fingers and pretty much told Davis she wanted him to follow suit with his hand. It was moving. And then he lifted his fingers and they both purposely placed their fingers in between the others so it was as if their hands were intertwined. And Davis' smile? Tragic and just romantic. That scene was just so well done. I really think Chloe and Davis are epic and beautiful. Their soul connection was so believable that I felt it and that's rare. I mean, I really felt it. It was so powerful that I even got the impression that they were telling each other they loved each other with their eyes and their souls. Very moving.

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I disagree. I personally see Jimmy as the rebound to Clark which is why I never saw Chimmy as an authentic couple. She always loved Clark more. With Davis, for me, it is completely different. He's the real deal I believe. True love. Chloe found it, and I think she's going to want to hold on to it.

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I agree. She was never completely in love I think. She certainly didn't look too thrilled when Jimmy mentioned forever. She looked trapped. I'm sure she does feel guilty. And Jimmy certainly didn't fight very hard for Chloe, which I found interesting that Davis was surprised about. Davis automatically assumed Jimmy would fight for her like he would, but then again I believe Davis loves Chloe more than Jimmy ever did. Chloe and Jimmy were both lying to themselves.

In the dying scene, another powerful moment for me was Clark's reaction when he realized just how strong the bond was between Chloe and Davis. His face said all. He knows Chloe so well that I think it was interesting to see his reactions like "Wow, I didn't realize they cared about each so much." Just a great added touch to an already perfect scene.

RedKRules
04-08-2009, 06:18 AM
Definitely my TOP favorite scene from this WHOLE season :D

actaeon
04-08-2009, 09:42 AM
all I could think of was Spock dying at the end of Star Trek II -- didn't anyone else feel that this scene was a total rip-off of that? Except it was much more sad (and believable) when Spock died.

Bingo! I thought it seemed familiar, but I couldn't put my finger on it. And yes, the Spock scene was much better.

I thought it was... overdone. Chloe all tear-besmeared and hysterical? She really should have dialed it back a little. Clark rehashing his "don't kill, ever" mantra just made him look stupid-- make an exception this time, bonehead! Plus whenever Clark preaches his "don't kill, ever" sermon, he's a hypocrite. Because he has tried to kill and he has in fact killed in the past.

One good thing about the scene was that it confirms that Chloe killed Sebastian, she did it of her own free will. It's in character for her to kill to protect Clark. She feels bad about it, but she'll do it. You go, girl-- she's willing to do the hard necessary stuff that Clark's too high minded (or sqeamish) to undertake.

RedKRules
04-08-2009, 09:44 AM
I have seen many copy cat moments on the show this season, but I am glad that glass scene was one of them :lol:

petitemimi
04-08-2009, 10:01 AM
I didn't remember that... Yes. It wouldn't be the first time that Smallville takes from Star Trek.

saltyweeks
04-08-2009, 10:17 AM
yep, that's the FIRST thing I thought of when I saw the scene. i've seen some reviewers mention it since then.