Anyone else think this ep brought the series up a level?

[staceybald01]

i watched this and thought it really took this series up a level with the DD story . the 1st ep was great , idenity was gr8 and i think leigon,bulletproof and this have stepped the new series up . . . .





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[Timester]

No, if anything it brought alot of steps down, when you start ignoring your own story...

[Hopefulsuicide]

I'm back to where i was after Power aired...

[chloisfan]

I agree, after watching this I remember why Smallville is my favourite show!

[Autumn]

I agree. It definitely went up in quality. Whenever I tell my parents I still watch Smallville (they're the ones who got me interested in the first place LOL) they're like how can you watch it? It is SO bad? I used to say I don't know it's some sort of sick addiction, but now I'm like no. The Davis story is awesome! It's actually well written. I actually enjoyed watching Smallville again. Last night, I didn't yell at my screen in frustration once, ok well I did want a Chlavis kiss. Too much to ask for??

[chlo-el]

I love it, it show did bring up to a whole knew level. I even started liking Clark again. Davis stories really brings this show to a whole new level. And I love the comparisons to him and Clark. And how Clark was feeling soooo much sympathy finally I get to see superman.

[Jack-El49]

I agree. It definitely went up in quality. Whenever I tell my parents I still watch Smallville (they're the ones who got me interested in the first place LOL) they're like how can you watch it? It is SO bad? I used to say I don't know it's some sort of sick addiction, but now I'm like no. The Davis story is awesome! It's actually well written. I actually enjoyed watching Smallville again. Last night, I didn't yell at my screen in frustration once, ok well I did want a Chlavis kiss. Too much to ask for??

LOL! No, not at all.:)

[Hopefulsuicide]

I agree. It definitely went up in quality. Whenever I tell my parents I still watch Smallville (they're the ones who got me interested in the first place LOL) they're like how can you watch it? It is SO bad? I used to say I don't know it's some sort of sick addiction, but now I'm like no. The Davis story is awesome! It's actually well written. I actually enjoyed watching Smallville again. Last night, I didn't yell at my screen in frustration once, ok well I did want a Chlavis kiss. Too much to ask for??

I'm really sorry, but how can anyone possibly think this was well written... I mean people on this forum have listed the FACTS that were ignored in the retcon, the lines that made no sense... even the characters actions made no sense...

It was so bad, i almost couldn't finish the episode... half way through i just wanted to come on here to vent, because i was so shocked at how awful the writing was...

So i just dont get how one person can see that much flaw, and another can actually praise the writing!

Can you tell me what was good about it?

[luvinChlark]

I defiantly thought it did! :) Great cliffhanger episode too.

[Maria1023]

This episode renewed my faith in Smallvlle....Every episode with Davis and Chloe is very enjoyable...

[AgentChaos]

No, if anything it brought alot of steps down, when you start ignoring your own story...

It was not a retcon. The idea of Davis being Sageeth was merely Tess' interpretation of the legend. It's no more valid or invalid than any other interpretation of the myth.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm really sorry, but how can anyone possibly think this was well written... I mean people on this forum have listed the FACTS that were ignored in the retcon, the lines that made no sense... even the characters actions made no sense...

It was so bad, i almost couldn't finish the episode... half way through i just wanted to come on here to vent, because i was so shocked at how awful the writing was...

So i just dont get how one person can see that much flaw, and another can actually praise the writing!

Can you tell me what was good about it?

Honestly, I think you make a lot of sense. We just came off of an extremely well written episode like Hex by Bryan Q. Miller, and this was sort of all over the place for me. We have Tess all of a sudden blowing up Davis, and then taking care of him. Then we have Chloe killing him, then sobbing and agonizing over him dying not to mention flirting and giggling with him as he was cooking her dinner!!! What????? Her marriage just broke up 2 episodes ago!! Then the Judas analogy which can only point to Chloe, because she's the only one close enough to Clark to be able to betray him. Crazy!

I wasn't expecting much from this episode given the spoilers, so I wasn't too disappointed, but I think it could have been better.

Went down a notch IMO from last week.

[Hopefulsuicide]

It's not just the suggestion Doomsday is Segeeth that makes it a retcon...

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm back to where i was after Power aired...

It wasn't that bad!:lol:

[Davis Bloome]

Despite the plotholes I did think it was one of the greatest episodes of this season. I don't think you can compare this one to the power episode. I mean the idea of the kryptonite suit was just silly. And Lex talking with a Darth Vader voice was stupid too.

[Hopefulsuicide]

It wasn't that bad!:lol:

Try being in my head right now!

There's a few reasons why it might be hitting me so hard... 1. because i hate everything to do with Veritas and blame it for every single bit of season 7 that i hated 2. because i loved Hex so much and was finally proud of Smallville again 3. because the one thing i cannot stand is story lines that aren't factually correct...

[Mickey_Bickey]

Try being in my head right now!

There's a few reasons why it might be hitting me so hard... 1. because i hate everything to do with Veritas and blame it for every single bit of season 7 that i hated 2. because i loved Hex so much and was finally proud of Smallville again 3. because the one thing i cannot stand is story lines that aren't factually correct...

True! I still think Power was the worst of the worst ever in this series!! Requiem wasn't any better. I agree, the whole Veritas thing was completely dragged out and dragged S7 down!!

I didn't like revisiting it either, and quite honestly given the spoilers about the origins of Davis Bloome I couldn't say I was looking forward to this episode. Now, we have to see how Stiletto plays out, especially where Chloe's concerned.

[Davis Bloome]

It wasn't necessary to bring Veritas back into this. Somehow they probably thought it would make things more interesting for Doomsday to link it with the prophecy of the traveler... It's actually the opposite. It makes Doomsday less unique as he should have his own prophecy. His own story that isn't connected to Veritas at all.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I wish someone would just wake me up when Injustice is on :lol:

[Mickey_Bickey]

It wasn't necessary to bring Veritas back into this. Somehow they probably thought it would make things more interesting for Doomsday to link it with the prophecy of the traveler... It's actually the opposite. It makes Doomsday less unique as he should have his own prophecy. His own story that isn't connected to Veritas at all.

Exactly!!! I was thinking it was going to show him growing up in some slum somewhere that he had to have a tough shell so to speak. They did have him have a tough childhood, but they linked him to the Luthors???!!!! How uncreative!!:(

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I wish someone would just wake me up when Injustice is on :lol:

Don't forget Stiletto! You don't want to sleep through that!!;)

[Hopefulsuicide]

It wasn't necessary to bring Veritas back into this. Somehow they probably thought it would make things more interesting for Doomsday to link it with the prophecy of the traveler... It's actually the opposite. It makes Doomsday less unique as he should have his own prophecy. His own story that isn't connected to Veritas at all.

Agreed Davis, and your right Mickey, it is very uncreative...

[petitemimi]

I think the episode was very unimaginative. Yet ANOTHER origin story, totally predictible. That school Lex went to is getting pretty crowded. I wish those writers would stop watching old episodes. I feel like we're being served leftovers with a new topping on it to make it look like something new and improved. It's not. I don't feel that they added anything positive to the early seasons.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

nope.

I just hope when I'm re-watching the older epis, I don't think about the changes to the initial story.

[Exedore]

Yes it brought the series up. To be precise it brought the level of absurdity up to the point where it puts even Lexana from S6 and the retcons from S7 to shame.:rolleyes:

[dokken-fan]

It wasn't necessary to bring Veritas back into this. Somehow they probably thought it would make things more interesting for Doomsday to link it with the prophecy of the traveler... It's actually the opposite. It makes Doomsday less unique as he should have his own prophecy. His own story that isn't connected to Veritas at all.

I like the fact that they ALWAYS find a way to bring back things that you thought it was just a filler. The veritas thing was well planned and I love the whole idea that it was created behind it. I think a good series, specially one that has been around for almost ten years, must be able to revisit the past seasons and tie them together. It is called continuity and even if it is to "unreal" the good thing is that they can keep it flowing in a nice string of events.

[alienkinfolk]

going back to the original story and adding Davis in, well, I accept it. I mean I completely REJECTED the super-powered Lana. This plot line with Davis' beginnings is far more digestible. Tying Veritas in made me squint at first but at the same time tying in last season doesn't make it a waste. imo this season has been falling flat but this episode i saw maturer characters(Clark Chloe and Davis) and a the development of the Chloe Davis & Clark arc further. Bravo SV

[dokken-fan]

We have Tess all of a sudden blowing up Davis, and then taking care of him. Then we have Chloe killing him, then sobbing and agonizing over him dying not to mention flirting and giggling with him as he was cooking her dinner!!! What????? Her marriage just broke up 2 episodes ago!! Then the Judas analogy which can only point to Chloe, because she's the only one close enough to Clark to be able to betray him.

I don't think this are valid reasons to say this episode was bad. I mean Tess and Chloe are characters with complex personalities. Their actions should not be so predictible oe they would become dull characters. Besides what they did is not far from reality. Chloe is kind of in a rebound, she did a natural thing finding confort on a guy she likes. Tess is methodical so she kinda expect that she might not kill davis with that explotion. She was working on a trial & error theory. The real plot hole is the fact that Davis did not killed Tess. MMMM nothing is perfect, maybee he ran out before he had transformed.

[Davis Bloome]

I like the fact that they ALWAYS find a way to bring back things that you thought it was just a filler. The veritas thing was well planned and I love the whole idea that it was created behind it. I think a good series, specially one that has been around for almost ten years, must be able to revisit the past seasons and tie them together. It is called continuity and even if it is to "unreal" the good thing is that they can keep it flowing in a nice string of events. Sorry I wasn't sure if you were talking in general or to me, cause I didn't think this episode was a filler, not at all. Hex was, but not this one. It's okay that they try to tie it together, but again it wasn't necessary imo.

[Night_Hawk90]

Despite the plotholes I did think it was one of the greatest episodes of this season. I don't think you can compare this one to the power episode. I mean the idea of the kryptonite suit was just silly. And Lex talking with a Darth Vader voice was stupid too.

im sorry but if this episode was one of the greatest this season, than that speaks for how bad this season has been, imo.

[Jack-El49]

Sorry I wasn't sure if you were talking in general or to me, cause I didn't think this episode was a filler, not at all. Hex was, but not this one. It's okay that they try to tie it together, but again it wasn't necessary imo.

Hex advances the B-plot. Eternal advanced the A-plot. Neither were fillers.

[IHeartClois]

Yea i really liked this epi too!! I dont know if it improved the series as a whole or not but on its own this was a good epi!

[dokken-fan]

Hex advances the B-plot. Eternal advanced the A-plot. Neither were fillers.

If you see it this way then there are no "filler" episodes, I mean every series have a main plot and an alternate plot. They can always go either way. I remember watching many sitcoms and the same always happened there. :\

[Jawth]

It wasn't Power or Requiem level bad, but it was pretty horrible. Throughout the episode I was laughing about how stupid some parts where (Run past the alien spacecraft and Get that kid! Doomy can speak english instantly after landing! Clark doesn't remember that Lex made the starblade dissolve! Tess can deduce things that Lionel can't from his own ****ing journal!)

A picture is worth a thousand words, and this one sums up what this episode turned out to be:

http://kevinrobinson.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/epic_fail.jpg

[Minamostaza]

It went up really well, for me, this was a really really great episode. I loved it.

[Autumn]

It went up really well, for me, this was a really really great episode. I loved it.

Agreed!

[Kevin24]

This episode really has me hyped for the rest of the season. I really liked how they tied in Davis and Vertias into the story.

[Jade4813]

IMO, I didn't think trying to retcon Bloomsday into Veritas was a very good idea. I get why they wanted to do it, and understand why some people were fine with it. But for me, I spent the entire episode thinking, "But...wait..." Personally, it brought me out of the story, and any time you take your viewers out of the story you're telling, it's probably a bad thing.

I think there are ways they could have tied Doomy into everything without taking the viewers out of the story, personally. But that's all just MO.

[xrayvision]

IMO, I didn't think trying to retcon Bloomsday into Veritas was a very good idea. I get why they wanted to do it, and understand why some people were fine with it. But for me, I spent the entire episode thinking, "But...wait..." Personally, it brought me out of the story, and any time you take your viewers out of the story you're telling, it's probably a bad thing.

I think there are ways they could have tied Doomy into everything without taking the viewers out of the story, personally. But that's all just MO.

I think they should have stayed away from connecting Doomsday to anything in the past. We all know how bad they screwed up by having that ill-executed Veritas plot last season. They have been saying that Doomsday came because of the timeline shift caused by Brainiac going to the past. This episode should have showed that timeline shift or no timeline shift, Doomsday would eventually get to Earth anyway. Unfortunately, this episode was doomed (pun not intended) as soon as they revealed Davis as having a childhood where he couldn't remember the first 3 years.

I think given this scenario, the best approach would have been to continue the events of Apocalypse & show Brainiac (after Kara threw that rock on his head) get up and throw the pod/ball/cocoon/etc that was Doomsday towards the direction of Earth and have it land in another part of Kansas. This way, the Doomsday thing would be a branch of the Veritas contradiction of the earlier seasons rather than having it be a 2nd & seperate contradiction of the earlier seasons. And they should have shown why Veritas had it all wrong & should have made Doomsday be the Traveler by clearing it up that the Traveler was the final version of an experiment that began long ago (tying Davis/Doomsday to Bertron's experiments & creation of Doomsday in the comics).

But as that "motivational" poster that Jawth posted shows, it was a failure.

[Jade4813]

I think they should have stayed away from connecting Doomsday to anything in the past. We all know how bad they screwed up by having that ill-executed Veritas plot last season. They have been saying that Doomsday came because of the timeline shift caused by Brainiac going to the past. This episode should have showed that timeline shift or no timeline shift, Doomsday would eventually get to Earth anyway. Unfortunately, this episode was doomed (pun not intended) as soon as they revealed Davis as having a childhood where he couldn't remember the first 3 years.

I think given this scenario, the best approach would have been to continue the events of Apocalypse & show Brainiac (after Kara threw that rock on his head) get up and throw the pod/ball/cocoon/etc that was Doomsday towards the direction of Earth and have it land in another part of Kansas. This way, the Doomsday thing would be a branch of the Veritas contradiction of the earlier seasons rather than having it be a 2nd & seperate contradiction of the earlier seasons. And they should have shown why Veritas had it all wrong & should have made Doomsday be the Traveler by clearing it up that the Traveler was the final version of an experiment that began long ago (tying Davis/Doomsday to Bertron's experiments & creation of Doomsday in the comics).

But as that "motivational" poster that Jawth posted shows, it was a failure.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think it was necessary to try to tie everything in to the past. Sometimes villains come into town and do bad things and they don't need to have had this long backstory that interconnects with others. But, then again, I also don't think that every villain has to have a sad backstory of them trying to be good and failing because of all the bad things they did or whatnot. Sometimes bad guys are just bad guys. Period, end of story. They do bad things because...well, sometimes just because it makes them happy.

Villains like SVLex may be more tragic, but IMO, villains like Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs" are downright scarier. Why does he do the things he does? I don't know, and not knowing what makes him tick is downright scary to me. There's nothing wrong with the occasion villain who's just plain evil because they're evil and who's downright terrifying because of it.

ETA: There are several redundancies in that last paragraph. I should fix them, but I'm tired and my brain is overtaxed from 12 hours of working on a paper. So I shall leave them be and beg apologies instead!

[Supsfan]

I personally just wish they made Doomsday some lab experiment that Tess was working on. They could make Tess this psycotic witch creating Doomsday and have him unleshed in episode 22, in a knock them down drag em out fight full of great SFX. It would have tied well into the continuity of Season 6 Luthorcorp experiments. An in order to fill epsiodes like Prey or Eternal they could have had Tess send out trial runs of Doomsday. In Bride/Legion it could have focused on the Persuader and/or Brainiac.

[Theshadow129x]

I can understand, Xrayvision, the story more and get behind it more if they said it was a result of time travel, but if this was the case then there are still a mess of questions that get thrown in to this story. I dont want to list them all but you know exactly what i'm talking. There is still alot of issues i have with this episode and it cant be redeemed in anyways you try to explain this Davis Bloome being here since Clark.


This is why we shouldnt mess with time travel or kep adding characters to the pilot episode, it complicates the story.

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Yeah, I agree. I don't think it was necessary to try to tie everything in to the past. Sometimes villains come into town and do bad things and they don't need to have had this long backstory that interconnects with others. But, then again, I also don't think that every villain has to have a sad backstory of them trying to be good and failing because of all the bad things they did or whatnot. Sometimes bad guys are just bad guys. Period, end of story. They do bad things because...well, sometimes just because it makes them happy.

Villains like SVLex may be more tragic, but IMO, villains like Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs" are downright scarier. Why does he do the things he does? I don't know, and not knowing what makes him tick is downright scary to me. There's nothing wrong with the occasion villain who's just plain evil because they're evil and who's downright terrifying because of it.

ETA: There are several redundancies in that last paragraph. I should fix them, but I'm tired and my brain is overtaxed from 12 hours of working on a paper. So I shall leave them be and beg apologies instead!


I agree. Smallvilel tries to make it seem like all bad people come from failed attempts of redemption or some of bad life. but some people come from good lives and just naturally go bad because they dont care.

This is where smallville hurts itself. They try to draw the line to show that everyone has had a bad life compared to Clark and this is the reason why they go bad, and thats not the case. People make bad decisions sometimes, it has nothing to do with the way their parents treated them.

[ox007]

As written on another thread I think the biggest retcon was Lionel's diary that Lex couldn't find or he maybe didn't even look. It would have given him more answers than killing Lionel for some neckless or something. It didn't make any sense - Tess found it without any problems and Lex couldn't find it for all those years.

Besides according to this diary Lionel knew Clark was the traveler from the beginning which doesn't make any sense either when watching first seasons. The only explanation would be - Lionel wanted to full even the audience whitch is just too ridicules :)

But if it hadn't been for those retcons and if they made the story more credible it would really have been a good episode. Right now I would say: it was interesting yes, but it didn't tie and some even say it destroyed the strory from first seasons of SV.

[xrayvision]

Right now I would say: it was interesting yes, but it didn't tie and some even say it destroyed the strory from first seasons of SV.

My main problem with Veritas is that it was interesting, but it clashed with everything we were ever told. So like you seem to be implying, I'd say an interesting plot isn't good enough when it contradicts so much of the story. Season 7 was very interesting for the most part. But the reason it's my least favorite is due to the ignorance of the writers for the previously told facts & the fact that it made Clark look like a moron.

[Selina]

I enjoyed some aspects to it but I couldn't fully enjoy it because there was way too many plot holes for my liking. It's just made storylines seem so inconsistant. I think in this episode, the writers got confused between developing and changing. It had the latter effect, which was not good.

Give Davis a backstory if you must but leave prior storylines where they are.

[Jawth]

I really fail to see what was wrong with Doomsday's comic book origin. I was hoping for the best at first, but in between making him a Hulk ripoff and unnessisarily forcing him into past events therefore making the rest of the series invalid I've really come to resent this arc.

[Autumn]

I really fail to see what was wrong with Doomsday's comic book origin. I was hoping for the best at first, but in between making him a Hulk ripoff and unnessisarily forcing him into past events therefore making the rest of the series invalid I've really come to resent this arc.

The comic book Doomsday arc wouldn't work for TV IMO. Too one-dimensional. I like this version MUCH better!!!! And it has made Smallville watchable again and has given way more buzz to the show than it's had in years. Definitely brought the series up a level.

[xrayvision]

The comic book Doomsday arc wouldn't work for TV IMO. Too one-dimensional. I like this version MUCH better!!!! And it has made Smallville watchable again and has given way more buzz to the show than it's had in years. Definitely brought the series up a level.

I only agree with your statement because they wouldn't be able to fill an entire season with the real Doomsday. A movie, absolutely, but a 22 episode TV season, no. There's no way a Doomsday-Superman/Clark fight would be able to put off until the end of the season with the real Doomsday.

But I have several problems with this version. I can overlook the Hulk ripoff thing, but my problem is that he hasn't really been interesting. The Davis thing was interesting up to Bride. After that episode, I just haven't been interested. They made almost all of his interaction be with Chloe. I wanted to see Clark & Davis interact, but they only showed that in Prey & a little in Eternal. Other than that, they failed to establish a decent connection between the 2 characters who will be having the ultimate battle in a few episodes from now. I wanted Clark to follow him around & investigate him. I also wasn't happy the way Clark blamed himself for Davis' life.

Even with the Davis-DD dual personality, they didn't have to tie his arrival to Clark's. I have a big problem with that. That could have been avoided & still had the Davis personality.

[Supsfan]

The comic book Doomsday arc wouldn't work for TV IMO. Too one-dimensional. I like this version MUCH better!!!! And it has made Smallville watchable again and has given way more buzz to the show than it's had in years. Definitely brought the series up a level.

But you don't have to make Doomsday a PT character.

They can hint to him throughout the season(if he some form of lab experiemnt) and have him show up in the final episode or they could do a 3 episode story arc of finding him and unearthing him and he shows up in the final epsiode.

[Jawth]

Doomsday as he was in the comics couldn't pull off being a series regular-I'll give you that. He could easily be made into the "big bad" of a season though.

Tess, obsessed with the Kawachi caves and what information she has on the traveler, searches for similiar markings across the planet. A few episodes later, she thinks she found a possible match and she brings along Clark (because she is suspiscious of him and possible connections to the traveler). Lex and Lionel had found the place before, but ultimately decided it wasn't of importance. Clark recognizes the Kryptonian symbol for "Doomsday" on the wall and other warning of a destroyer. Deep below the earth, a beastlike creature senses Clark and awakens from slumber.

A episode or two pass, and the beast finds Clark. The two battle, with Clark the victor, seemingly killing DD, though suffering serious wounds.

Doomsday comes back stronger towards the end of the season, wrecks the Justice League, and it's a huge and epic round 2!

[borednow]

It wasn't that bad!:lol:

... it kinda was...

[xrayvision]

Doomsday as he was in the comics couldn't pull off being a series regular-I'll give you that. He could easily be made into the "big bad" of a season though.

Tess, obsessed with the Kawachi caves and what information she has on the traveler, searches for similiar markings across the planet. A few episodes later, she thinks she found a possible match and she brings along Clark (because she is suspiscious of him and possible connections to the traveler). Lex and Lionel had found the place before, but ultimately decided it wasn't of importance. Clark recognizes the Kryptonian symbol for "Doomsday" on the wall and other warning of a destroyer. Deep below the earth, a beastlike creature senses Clark and awakens from slumber.

A episode or two pass, and the beast finds Clark. The two battle, with Clark the victor, seemingly killing DD, though suffering serious wounds.

Doomsday comes back stronger towards the end of the season, wrecks the Justice League, and it's a huge and epic round 2!

I like parts of this idea, except that Lex & Lionel found a place they wrote off as unimportant. I didn't like how Tess discovered things Lex or Lionel never did when they had years to. It makes them look incompetent.

I wish they would have had Kara in 2 episodes, one showing her in her quest to find Kandor and passing by a sleeping creature who awakens in space after she passes by, sensing the trail from where she came & following it back to Earth. Or maybe this could have happened at the end of Bloodline.

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Or I think it would have been cool had they had a seperate Kawatche or better yet Kryptonian prophecy for Doomsday saying something like "From the expulsion of powers granted by the yellow sun Sol from the Last Son's fall, the beast shall awaken" meaning that Clark's loss of powers in Arctic/Odyssey caused by the orb could have shown his powers to irradiate out to space, awakening Doomsday. Now that would have been an awesome prophecy. It would show that the Veritas society got it all wrong with the Traveler being Doomsday (being led to Earth by the orb) and would also show why that orb was so dangerous & why it was hidden along with its key.

[Jawth]

I was thinking more along the lines of Lex and Lionel not having the dumb luck to have Clark around when they visited the new cave to wake up Doomsday so their trips were uneventful.

[Autumn]

I actually don't even like the Doomsday character in the comics at all, until he becomes a hero, then he is more interesting, so I'm personally glad they changed it. LOVE this episode!! Adore it!!

[Jawth]

I actually don't even like the Doomsday character in the comics at all, until he becomes a hero, then he is more interesting, so I'm personally glad they changed it. LOVE this episode!! Adore it!!

Yeah......This Doomsday isn't Doomsday. He's little more than a Hulk ripoff. If they wanted to do that they should have made another character or use that blue ripoff of Hulk from DC. I'm all for tinkering and reinventing, but sometimes the show goes a little too far (Supergirl, Bizarro and SuperLana come to mind too).

I have to ask, what was good about this episode? It was chock full of plotholes, unessisary retcons and flat out lol at teh stupidity moments like Lionel's men running straight past a spaceship, and Lionel knowing the whole time when his past actions clearly didn't match with that.

[supercrud]

Let's face it. The whole season has been this buildup to an epic battle vs. Doomsday, and now that there's prob. gonna be another season - almost assuredly - the whole thing is either going to be a) anticlimactic, because they're going to make Davis into something...good or ultimately not evil (because fans like him) or b) they'll keep resurrecting Doomsday into next season and rob us of the more interesting story lines.

That being said, who doesn't hang on every episode like they're hypnotized? That's why I don't get too shaken up - I know it's Smallville, and I'm basically gonna love it no matter what.

[amanda7288]

Eternal was certainly one of the better acted episodes of the series. SW, AM, and TW done a wonderful job. I love Smallville, but I can admit that it's not known for it's great acting. Yes, the storyline didn't match up with earlier episodes but as a standalone it was amazing. It was almost like watching another show completely.

[9-SOSIHTWB]

It was a good episode I have to agree on that, but I don't think it took Smallville up a gear, I think Hex did that if I'm completely honest!!!

[Supsfan]

If you judge the episode on it's own, it was ok, but when you put it in the context of the 8 year run of the series it's a retcon trainwreck. I personally didn't care for it myself and felt there was better stories to be told on this show without trying to resort to rewriting history