Does anyone else feel bad for Davis?

[IHeartClois]

Is it just me or does anyone feel bad for the poor guy??

I felt so bad for him in the flashback scene as he seemed to come out of some evil looking muck and seemed lost just like little Clark, while Clark was taken home by Martha/Jonathan, this poor guy was abducted by the Luthors.

He lived a terrible life at foster homes never knowing where he came from.

He doesn't seem to be a bad/evil person at heart and was ready to have himself killed.

I really agreed with Clark when he said it must be terrible knowing that no matter what you do, you are destined to destroy the world.

It might have been better if he was an out and out evil character who WANTED to destroy, but seems he was actually just a pathetic little lonely confused child who really seems to have been thrown into all this.

[VagrantDream]

Not just you. This broke my heart for him.

[MrZeppo]

I felt the same way. Davis' storyline is truly tragic. He doesn't want to be a killer, at heart he wants to save people. And even though he's done some horrible things, at heart I think he's a good person. Events outside his control have forced him down a dark path he doesn't want to go down.

I have to say the actor who played young Davis really sold me on this story tonight. He was really good. The look on the kid's face... So sad, lonely, and scared? It was heartbreaking. He looked so tired and alone... I felt more for younger Davis, probably because he's a kid, than I do for older Davis.

[RPintorO]

Not just you. This broke my heart for him.

Have you ever seen the movie" The Omen"? If so, did you feel sorry for Damien the child (Antichrist)? If your answer is "no", then I didn't think so.

Davis is the disquise, he's the destroyer....

[Lilah]

Yeah I especially felt bad when he went from an overgrown 3 year old to a monster in 2.3 seconds.............. no one is supposed to feel bad for Doomsday.... He's a killer without remorse.

[chlo-el]

Davis story is soooo sad. He hadn't had love shown to him his whole life. And despite being treated so horribly he still tries really hard to be a good guy. He truly is amazing. Disproving both nature and nurture theories.

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Yeah I especially felt bad when he went from an overgrown 3 year old to a monster in 2.3 seconds.............. no one is supposed to feel bad for Doomsday.... He's a killer without remorse.

Well, that maybe Doomsday but Davis is good guy who is trying his best. He evn sacraficed himself to make sure he didn't hurt anyone else again. How is that not having remorse?

[borednow]

No, I really don't... start of the series I did... but as time has gone on that "Awww poor guy" has tarnished to "Can't he just die now? No? How about we send him into the center of a black hole??"

I've felt more sorry for real serial killers...

[topping82]

I definitely feel sorry for him. I kind of think that's the point. He has no choice. It's tragic!!! Sam Witwer is brilliant as Davis. And he's not evil, and I think it's just plain false to say he has no remorse. Based on what? He even tries to kill himself and he's constantly seeking redemption.

[Sunny8]

I felt bad for Lex, but I do not feel bad for Davis. Zod's wife, Faora, said that she and Zod created Davis/Doomsday for one purpose---to be a destroyer. He is not human. He is just like Bizarro or Brainiac.

[MrZeppo]

Yeah I especially felt bad when he went from an overgrown 3 year old to a monster in 2.3 seconds.............. no one is supposed to feel bad for Doomsday.... He's a killer without remorse.

Actually that's technically not true. Davis does show remorse. He wanted to die tonight because he can't live with what he's had to do. He said so himself. And he's historically shown remorse and pain for what he's done. Personally I don't feel like it's the black and white situation many make it out to be.

I'm not going to debate if Davis is a disguise or not. I've seen that argument dozen and dozens of times and have no desire to rehash old debates. I will say regardless of the disguise or no disguise theories and Doomsday, I feel bad for Davis. Because he never wanted to be a killer. He didn't wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think it would be really cool to drive through 5 states with someone's head as my hat." He was doomed from day one, just like Clark said.

I am not justifying his actions, but I can understand them. Because for him it comes down to a simple choice. Either kill someone else (preferably a bad person) to keep Doomsday at bay or allow Doomsday to come out unchallenged where it can go around and kill and maim many, including the innocent. This is the only tiny bit of control that Davis has in his life.

[Kryptochloe]

Yes, I do

[IHeartClois]

Have you ever seen the movie" The Omen"? If so, did you feel sorry for Damien the child (Antichrist)? If your answer is "no", then I didn't think so.

Davis is the disquise, he's the destroyer....

I have seen "The Omen" but in part 1 the kid was too little to actually know he was evil/antichrist and all, in part 2 when he is like 10-12 years old we actually see him being mad at life/god about "why him" and why he couldnt just be normal, he didnt wanna be evil either, but he got over it really quickly and was kind of an evil child since he liked to hurt and control people at his school...so yea, couldn't really feel bad for him much longer.

In Davis' case they are kind of showing that he doesn't like the fact that he is meant to be evil or the destroyer. He only went DD on Lionel's people as a child cuz they dumped him and he was scared and angry...he couldnt control his emotions.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I sympathize with him. Still think he should be stopped though.

[Kschreck]

Yeah I feel a bit sad for the guy. For his entire life he has always wanted to be a good person. Even becoming a medic yet in the end he is not only forced to become an evil monster but he has to watch himself slowly turn into this thing and kill tons of people.

[Eeyore840]

Yes. It is always a tragedy when a person has no free will or choice in life. Even the hero of the story understands this.

[vikingjedi]

Nope, not at all. A lot of people have rough lives growing up and they don't go around murdering people. I agree that Davis is just a disguise.

[VagrantDream]

Have you ever seen the movie" The Omen"? If so, did you feel sorry for Damien the child (Antichrist)? If your answer is "no", then I didn't think so.

Davis is the disquise, he's the destroyer....


I didn't. And no.

I hold to my opinion. Davis is real because he's doing everything to fight what he's been 'destined' to become. He has this hopless situation where he can't win, but he fights anyway. He tried to die before he hurt anyone.

That makes me sympathize with him much more than the people I keep getting told are the good guys. :rolleyes:

[IHeartClois]

I felt the same way. Davis' storyline is truly tragic. He doesn't want to be a killer, at heart he wants to save people. And even though he's done some horrible things, at heart I think he's a good person. Events outside his control have forced him down a dark path he doesn't want to go down.

I have to say the actor who played young Davis really sold me on this story tonight. He was really good. The look on the kid's face... So sad, lonely, and scared? It was heartbreaking. He looked so tired and alone... I felt more for younger Davis, probably because he's a kid, than I do for older Davis.

Yea I felt bad for the younger Davis too, especially since they showed Clark being taken away by the Kents and this guy just out there not having anyone/anywhere to go to. Also the scene with him and Lex was sad since he was just locked up at the Luthors and was being tested on....nice to see little lex was friendly to him

[Lilah]

Davis story is soooo sad. He hadn't had love shown to him his whole life. And despite being treated so horribly he still tries really hard to be a good guy. He truly is amazing. Disproving both nature and nurture theories.

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Well, that maybe Doomsday but Davis is good guy who is trying his best. He evn sacraficed himself to make sure he didn't hurt anyone else again. How is that not having remorse?

If Davis were real maybe that would make me feel bad for him... but the way I see it is he's got a camouflage, to allow him to walk amongst the humans. Davis Bloom isn't human, he has no humanity. Doomsday is the real character and he is a killer.

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Actually that's technically not true. Davis does show remorse. He wanted to die tonight because he can't live with what he's had to do. He said so himself. And he's historically shown remorse and pain for what he's done. Personally I don't feel like it's the black and white situation many make it out to be.

I'm not going to debate if Davis is a disguise or not. I've seen that argument dozen and dozens of times and have no desire to rehash old debates. I will say regardless of the disguise or no disguise theories and Doomsday, I feel bad for Davis. Because he never wanted to be a killer. He didn't wake up one day and say, "Hey, I think it would be really cool to drive through 5 states with someone's head as my hat." He was doomed from day one, just like Clark said.

I am not justifying his actions, but I can understand them. Because for him it comes down to a simple choice. Either kill someone else (preferably a bad person) to keep Doomsday at bay or allow Doomsday to come out unchallenged where it can go around and kill and maim many, including the innocent. This is the only tiny bit of control that Davis has in his life.

But that's not Doomsday. Doomsday is an experiment who has no remorse. He's a killer. Davis Bloom is just the camouflage for him to fit in amongst the humans.

[IHeartClois]

I have to admit I dont know much about the mythos so Im just reacting to what i watch on the show, I actually would have liked it if they showed Davis as 'actually' evil and was just putting on a fake personality of not wanting to hurt people...but the way they are showing it is more like he is really not into the whole being the 'destroyer' thing.

[Eeyore840]

If Davis were real maybe that would make me feel bad for him... but the way I see it is he's got a camouflage, to allow him to walk amongst the humans. Davis Bloom isn't human, he has no humanity. Doomsday is the real character and he is a killer.

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But that's not Doomsday. Doomsday is an experiment who has no remorse. He's a killer. Davis Bloom is just the camouflage for him to fit in amongst the humans.

Why is everyone so hell bent on interpreting the comics so literally?? We know Smallville has taken liberties with comics canon--why can't they do it for Doomsday's backstory? I love that they made Dooms a two-dimentional character instead of just a mindless killing machine.

[SnowBird]

I don't feel sorry for him at all. Davis came to earth and just four days later killed Lionel's men. No wonder he went from foster home to foster home. That doesn't happen because he was a good little boy. Davis is a murderer and Doomsday will kill Superman in the future and maybe Clark in the present. He is a murderer who hides bodies in a field. He doesn't deserve pity. He deserves to be placed somewhere that will contain the beast away from the human race.

[Lilah]

Because of the way they've interpreted his character, that is pretty iconic, its going to be hard to believe this whiny paramedic really does kill the man of steel. I'm sorry. I am a diehard mythos fan, and I liked the idea of Doomsday coming on the show before the season started, but now I wish he never came on. Smallville took a lot of leeway, especially with a Clex friendship at first but it worked... even if it wasn't canon. What they've done with this character is turn him into a wuss and now they expect us to believe he's going to kill Superman??? Yeah. Right.

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I don't feel sorry for him at all. Davis came to earth and just four days later killed Lionel's men. No wonder he went from foster home to foster home. That doesn't happen because he was a good little boy. Davis is a murderer and Doomsday will kill Superman in the future and maybe Clark in the present. He is a murderer who hides bodies in a field. He doesn't deserve pity. He deserves to be placed somewhere that will contain the beast away from the human race.

He deserves to die with a super blow from Superman!

[ginnyfan]

I felt a lot sorrier for him before "Turbulence." That episode tarnished his innocence a lot for me.

That field full of dead bodies... it makes it difficult for me to feel sorry for him, even knowing they are criminals. At a certain point he has to be held accountable for his actions. I'm sure there are serial killers who have a compulsion to kill and don't want to do it but the voices tell them to or whatever. It's sad but... they need to be locked up. He's putting Chloe in danger too. It's possible that she could keep the beast at bay forever but... he's taking a big risk.

I did feel sorry for little Davis though. I hoped that the Kents would adopt him.

The death scene would have been sad if not for Clark blaming himself and the horrible emo-ness of it all. "Your life is destined to be happier than mine, Clark." *gag*

[IHeartClois]

Awww I liked the whole liquid kryptonite death scene...Chloe was crying like a baby.

I do agree he has to be stopped and I dont want anyone killing Clark...but I still wish Davis could be helped...I mean what are you supposed to do when you are programmed to kill but dont want to...its more than voices in your head..

[Bre723]

Yeah, my heart breaks for Davis.
But not Dooms, they're like different people to me.

[ChronX4]

Why is everyone so hell bent on interpreting the comics so literally?? We know Smallville has taken liberties with comics canon--why can't they do it for Doomsday's backstory? I love that they made Dooms a two-dimentional character instead of just a mindless killing machine.


I got to admit, they've done a very good job with the character.
I really hope that in the final battle when transformed he has no cliche stop and look at somebody for a while as if thinking therefore making someone say "Look he's still in there!" refering to his human side. That would really kill it.

[IHeartClois]

I got to admit, they've done a very good job with the character.
I really hope that in the final battle when transformed he has no cliche stop and look at somebody for a while as if thinking therefore making someone say "Look he's still in there!" refering to his human side. That would really kill it.

OMG I am soo sure they would do that, cuz they put quite some effort into developing Davis the medic who doesnt wanna be Doomy....

[Eeyore840]

Yeah, my heart breaks for Davis.
But not Dooms, they're like different people to me.

Bingo!:)

[Night_Hawk90]

Does anyone else feel bad for Davis?

Nope

[Davis Bloome]

Feel sorry for him. Not really. He's meant to become Doomsday. It's all interesting that Davis is a good guy and he's trying really hard to keep the beast out in an interesting way if I may add. The idea that he can keep the beast out because of his love with Chloe is touching. But you know that he's going to become Doomsday, it's just meant to be.

[thehenry89]

Do I feel bad for davis?

after what he did to jimmy in turbulence absolutley not.

[AndiGirl]

Yep, my heart completely broke for him.
Especially when he was willing to give up his life. He said it wasnt for Clark...but I'm sure a good chunk of it was. Because he loves Chloe...and he knows how much Clark means to her.

Then the moment where Clark asked him if he had something to live for...and he looks at Chloe. But says its not always about what your heart wants.

Such a sad episode....

[Davis Bloome]

Do I feel bad for davis?

after what he did to jimmy in turbulence absolutley not.
Lol I'm looking forward if he has more in store for Jimmy. Can't wait till Jimmy says "get away from my wife!" and then *snap* Davis breaks his neck... But unfortunately that won't happen lol, but hey a guy can dream...

[Eeyore840]

Yep, my heart completely broke for him.
Especially when he was willing to give up his life. He said it wasnt for Clark...but I'm sure a good chunk of it was. Because he loves Chloe...and he knows how much Clark means to her.

Then the moment where Clark asked him if he had something to live for...and he looks at Chloe. But says its not always about what your heart wants.

Such a sad episode....

It was a beautiful moment, and a great episode. Kudos to SW and AM.

[amalie]

In the beginning I felt incredibly sorry for him, as this season has gone on I'm feeling like that less and less. There are still moments when he breaks my heart a little but those moments are diminishing fast.

[Tess is Smokin]

he had it comming.

[SupermanRox]

That field full of dead bodies... it makes it difficult for me to feel sorry for him, even knowing they are criminals. At a certain point he has to be held accountable for his actions. I'm sure there are serial killers who have a compulsion to kill and don't want to do it but the voices tell them to or whatever. It's sad but... they need to be locked up. He's putting Chloe in danger too. It's possible that she could keep the beast at bay forever but... he's taking a big risk.

I did feel sorry for little Davis though. I hoped that the Kents would adopt him.

The death scene would have been sad if not for Clark blaming himself and the horrible emo-ness of it all. "Your life is destined to be happier than mine, Clark." *gag*

This is pretty much how I feel about his character.

[MrZeppo]

If Davis were real maybe that would make me feel bad for him... but the way I see it is he's got a camouflage, to allow him to walk amongst the humans. Davis Bloom isn't human, he has no humanity. Doomsday is the real character and he is a killer.

But that's not Doomsday. Doomsday is an experiment who has no remorse. He's a killer. Davis Bloom is just the camouflage for him to fit in amongst the humans.

Oi. I really don't want to debate the "Davis is a persona" argument. I personally don't believe it. I know Chloiac said he was. But Brainiac isn't the best judge of what makes someone human in my eyes. And that doesn't mean Davis can't be more than he was designed to be. If you feel he's a persona, that's your right and your opinion. But my opinion differs and nothing anyone says to me to debate that can change my mind. Because otherwise this whole Davis storyline would lack emotional resonance for me.

Sorry. :)

I agree that Doomsday is an experiment who had no remorse, is a killer, and a monster. But Davis isn't. Davis may be considered camouflage to many, a persona, but that doesn't make him less real to me. Yes he isn't human, he's really a genetically modified kryptonian. But Clark isn't human either, but that doesn't lessen my view of Clark's own humanity. If this show has proven anything to me, it proved a person don't need to be human to have humanity. And just because someone is human that doesn't automatically make them rich in humanity.

Davis does show humanity, he shows remorse, he doesn't want to kill, he's forced to kill. Regardless of if he's a persona or not, he's "real" to me.

And that doesn't mean I am giving Davis a free pass. He's killed and murdered. He should be help accountable for that.

[workshyslacker]

Davis, yes, mainly due to SW's acting. Doomy no.

[Rift]

I might if I didn't think that his sympathetic nature was just more artificial programming to allow him to fit in and survive until he's ready to complete the metamorphosis. But I can see how others could feel differently.

[chlo-el]

I might if I didn't think that his sympathetic nature was just more artificial programming to allow him to fit in and survive until he's ready to complete the metamorphosis. But I can see how others could feel differently.

I see his artificial programming like Cylons from Battle Star. They were AI both they were programmed with emotions so they were able to love and make their own lives.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

well i do in his heart he is a good guy.
to bad four him do that wont stop doomy from cumming out

[Violet-Shadow]

Never.

[AChloeChick]

Oi. I really don't want to debate the "Davis is a persona" argument. I personally don't believe it. I know Chloiac said he was. But Brainiac isn't the best judge of what makes someone human in my eyes. And that doesn't mean Davis can't be more than he was designed to be. If you feel he's a persona, that's your right and your opinion. But my opinion differs and nothing anyone says to me to debate that can change my mind. Because otherwise this whole Davis storyline would lack emotional resonance for me.

Sorry. :)

I agree that Doomsday is an experiment who had no remorse, is a killer, and a monster. But Davis isn't. Davis may be considered camouflage to many, a persona, but that doesn't make him less real to me. Yes he isn't human, he's really a genetically modified kryptonian. But Clark isn't human either, but that doesn't lessen my view of Clark's own humanity. If this show has proven anything to me, it proved a person don't need to be human to have humanity. And just because someone is human that doesn't automatically make them rich in humanity.

Davis does show humanity, he shows remorse, he doesn't want to kill, he's forced to kill. Regardless of if he's a persona or not, he's "real" to me.

And that doesn't mean I am giving Davis a free pass. He's killed and murdered. He should be help accountable for that.

This pretty much covers it for me.

Thanks to the writing and portrayal of Davis, my heart does ache for him. SW did say in one of the SV mags that he wants Davis to be missed once DD has taken over. I think he/they've done their jobs.

[BadToad]

No, not really. I do feel bad for all the people he's killed though.

[Violet-Shadow]

No, not really. I do feel bad for all the people he's killed though.

Yeah, I feel bad for all those people too.
:(

[One-Winged-Angel]

Is it just me or does anyone feel bad for the poor guy??

I felt so bad for him in the flashback scene as he seemed to come out of some evil looking muck and seemed lost just like little Clark, while Clark was taken home by Martha/Jonathan, this poor guy was abducted by the Luthors.

He lived a terrible life at foster homes never knowing where he came from.

He doesn't seem to be a bad/evil person at heart and was ready to have himself killed.

I really agreed with Clark when he said it must be terrible knowing that no matter what you do, you are destined to destroy the world.

It might have been better if he was an out and out evil character who WANTED to destroy, but seems he was actually just a pathetic little lonely confused child who really seems to have been thrown into all this.

no

[Alania]

I don't!!


No, not really. I do feel bad for all the people he's killed though.

Yep, i share this opinion.

[Bizarrolover]

No, not really. I do feel bad for all the people he's killed though.

And their families. I'm sure they are missed even if they were bad persons.

[Davis Bloome]

I don't as they are clearly not characters you connect to... If these people were real and not from a tv-show then I would feel sorry for them.

[petitemimi]

I don't feel bad for Davis; I feel bored.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I feel bad for him all the time, because he really has no choice at all...it's either be an 'evil killing machine' or die. Davis is such a sweet guy and that's why I would have preferred if he was evil from the beginning. I mean, it's already stretching it that doomsday is somewhat human and has to transform, but, to make him the good guy too, well.....

[Davis Bloome]

It's always a nice contrast to see. I'm a star wars fan and as Starkiller is actually a good guy within but becomes bad due to Vader. As Anakin was good but was manipulated... Villains and anti-heroes are always the most interesting characters imo.

[Herod]

I felt bad for him until he killed then I started feeling bad for his victims.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

It's always a nice contrast to see. I'm a star wars fan and as Starkiller is actually a good guy within but becomes bad due to Vader. As Anakin was good but was manipulated... Villains and anti-heroes are always the most interesting characters imo.

I agree with you, those stories are very interesting to me as well, but, Anakin was not forced against his will...he was just twisted and he actually thought he was doing something good (at first).

[yomama]

You feel sorry for all the victims he's killed, hmm?...you mean the drunk driver, the drug dealer, the abuser.... Could the SV writers muddy the ethical-murder waters around Davis any more? ;)

Of course, there was the nun he killed in an earlier episode, but I'm sure she was an evil nun. :eek:

[Davis Bloome]

You feel sorry for all the victims he's killed, hmm?...you mean the drunk driver, the drug dealer, the abuser.... Could the SV writers muddy the ethical-murder waters around Davis any more? ;)

Of course, there was the nun he killed in an earlier episode, but I'm sure she was an evil nun. :eek:
Yeah but that nun was killed by Doomsday, not by Davis.

[yomama]

Yeah but that nun was killed by Doomsday, not by Davis.

Good point, but somehow it makes Davis' killing of the drug dealer, the drunk driver, etc. seem more of a moral stain because he is targetting victims and killing them as himself--even if it is to keep Doomsday at bay.

Or in the situation of murder, does this really become a case of Davis vs Doomsday = PotAAAto vs Potaaato?

[Darth Pipes]

I do feel sorry for Davis. He seems to be a truly decent guy but he just can't escape his destiny. He can't even end it all. Sam Witwer is doing a great job.

[Davis Bloome]

Well that's the way it is, he did kill all those criminals as himself, just cause he thought he would more justified to have those criminals killed rather then letting Doomsday killing innocent people
Yes he's playing the judge and the executioner at the same time, but considering his situation he has little choice in the matter.

[yomama]

Yes he's playing the judge and the executioner at the same time, but considering his situation he has little choice in the matter.

It makes me cringe to say no one has a choice in the matter, but yeah, Davis' options are pretty limited--although instead of killing people, perhaps he should have taken out his aggression in the building demolition business. ;)

Ah well, I've always had sympathy for the Devil.

[IHeartClois]

SW is really good at playing Davis, maybe thats pat of the reason I feel sorry for him. Its too bad hes leaving :-( Now all we're gonna see is a monstrous Doomy...and I probably won't feel bad for him...I mean the creature is evil and hideous!

[Jack-El49]

No. I didn't feel sorry for Ted Bundy either.

[Eeyore840]

No. I didn't feel sorry for Ted Bundy either.

Ted Bundy wasn't a creature from another planet who was created for the sole purpose of being a killing machine. That is hardly a suitable comparison, imo.

[smallvillefreak24]

I love davis and it is very tragic because if he was NORMAL then he and chloe would be MAGICAL but alas he must turn into a braindead killing machine

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I felt bad for him when Davis told Chloe he loves her, then she just blew that off (for obvious reasons) and then asked her to help him die. But, after he ended up living, I didn't.

[Maria1023]

I definitely feel sorry for Davis Bloom because all he ever wanted in life was to be accepted and normal. He does what he does so that the Creature won't go on a killing rampage, but his side that was raised amongst human beings still feels guilt and remorse. Sam Witwer really makes Davis come alive for me and that is why I am sympathetic towards Davis.