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doodie8808
04-02-2009, 08:57 PM
I was sooooooooooooo glad that jimmy was cutting off his tratior of a wife after hearing her and davis talk about him in the talon!!!!!!!! Go jimmy! Dont call me ! Dont email me or come around! Awesome jimmy just awesome! I so dont feel sorry for chloe she gets what she deserves!:lol:

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Lol yes go Jimmy. Davis and Chloe are just friends my ass:rolleyes:

ywm
04-02-2009, 09:02 PM
jimmy rocks! ..and bring back Kara!

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 09:06 PM
While I think Jimmy is being a bit nutty with the swearing and bad language, I do support Jimmy a LOT more then I do with Chloe. I've always liked Chloe's character but the writers continue to make her look bad in season eight. Even after Chloe discovers that Jimmy was right, was does she do? Decides to stay with Davis anyways under the guise of protecting Clark as if she can stay in a basement for all of eternity.

Night_Hawk90
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
well it doesnt seem that it took long for chloe to be exploring the field already. Jimmy deserves so much better especially after seeing the last scene, i actually wish jimmy was in this episode

AgentChaos
04-02-2009, 09:22 PM
Jimmy deserves to be stomped into goo by Doomsday. He deserved that for selling Chloe out to Lex last season.

Night_Hawk90
04-02-2009, 09:31 PM
Jimmy deserves to be stomped into goo by Doomsday. He deserved that for selling Chloe out to Lex last season.

again jimmy protected chloe from doomsday(nearly getting killed in the process), jimmy has done a lot more for chloe than she has ever done for him.

Storm45
04-02-2009, 09:33 PM
well it doesnt seem that it took long for chloe to be exploring the field already. Jimmy deserves so much better especially after seeing the last scene, i actually wish jimmy was in this episode

As if Jimmy didn't explore the field right away with Kara when Chloe broke up with him.

clois-destiny-forever
04-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Jimmy is getting dissed so much, but I still say he's awesome!

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Jimmy deserves to be stomped into goo by Doomsday. He deserved that for selling Chloe out to Lex last season.


It's been awhile since I seen that episode but as I recall, Lex was blackmailing Jimmy to try and throw Lois off with her arctic story and eventually Jimmy stood up for himself and said that he isn't going to lie anymore. That is when Lex kidnapped Chloe. That isn't Jimmy's fault and I totally side with him on that.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 09:37 PM
I hope Doomsday kills Jimmy

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 09:39 PM
I hope Doomsday kills Jimmy


Not going to happen since Jimmy is a mythos character. :p

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 09:44 PM
I hope Doomsday kills Jimmy

If he does then it'll just be more blood on Chloe's hands since she was too stupid to see Davis=Serial Killer. I'm glad Clark called her out on that.;) Not that it will happen because Jimmy is mythos:p

AgentChaos
04-02-2009, 09:45 PM
It's been awhile since I seen that episode but as I recall, Lex was blackmailing Jimmy to try and throw Lois off with her arctic story and eventually Jimmy stood up for himself and said that he isn't going to lie anymore. That is when Lex kidnapped Chloe. That isn't Jimmy's fault and I totally side with him on that.

Jimmy should have been aware of the possible consequences of his deal when he went to Lex. As Chloe could have told him, you don't get out of a deal with a Luthor scott-free. His inability to lie cost Chloe big time.

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 09:48 PM
Jimmy should have been aware of the possible consequences of his deal when he went to Lex. As Chloe could have told him, you don't get out of a deal with a Luthor scott-free. His inability to lie cost Chloe big time.


The thing is, Jimmy tried to lie to protect Chloe in the first place but after realizing that he was getting in to deep he had to other option but to break off this deal with Lex. On top of that, Jimmy had no idea that Lex would kidnap Chloe.

Storm45
04-02-2009, 09:53 PM
In the end he should have told Chloe what went on in Sleeper instead of going to her ennemy for help.

Night_Hawk90
04-02-2009, 09:56 PM
In the end he should have told Chloe what went on in Sleeper instead of going to her ennemy for help.

Well the same could be said about chloe in eternal especially with the last scene, she should have confided with clark instead of acting trying to be mother teresa over here.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Clark himself last week told Lois as Chloe that he thought Jimmy went overboard in his serial killer theory. I am not getting into this again because I still think Chloe was right in not beliving crazy Jimmy's rambling. If Doomsday doesnt kill Jimmy someone needs to get him off this show. Maybe the Legion can come back and take him to the future with them.

MrZeppo
04-02-2009, 09:57 PM
the thing is, jimmy tried to lie to protect chloe in the first place but after realizing that he was getting in to deep he had to other option but to break off this deal with lex. On top of that, jimmy had no idea that lex would kidnap chloe.

ita. MOD EDIT

Storm45
04-02-2009, 09:58 PM
Well can't this situation be applied to the ending scene of eternal where chloe locks herself in with the enemy.

Yes. But does it change the fact that Jimmy should have told Chloe about his deal with Lex?. No.

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 09:59 PM
Clark himself last week told Lois as Chloe that he thought Jimmy went overboard in his serial killer theory. I am not getting into this again because I still think Chloe was right in not beliving crazy Jimmy's rambling. If Doomsday doesnt kill Jimmy someone needs to get him off this show. Maybe the Legion can come back and take him to the future with them.

That's before he knew everything that Chloe already knows. He didn't know that Davis went to Chloe with all that information. That makes Chloe the crazy one imo. Crazy rambling=the truth:confused: If the Legion takes Jimmy away, who's going to stop Davis from murdering people? Definitely not Chloe.:rolleyes:

geminis
04-02-2009, 10:00 PM
Lest we forget, Jimmy was shown to be popping one pill too many. He's acting out of character and overreacting wildly to his wife's approaches. He's threatened and he's lashing out at someone he expected would believe him but who instead chose to side with someone else. Sometimes you are most cruel to the ones you love.

I'm not going to say go Jimmy; I say intervention for Chloe and Jimmy both.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Did anyone else notice that Chloe when presented with evidence in a rational way realized Davis was a serial killer? Its not always what you say its how you say it that makes an impact. Chloe jumped on the Davis is bad bandwagon the same day Clark did.

SGuthrie27
04-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Wow, there's lots of polarization on this subject. In my mind, no, Chloe shouldn't have started doing ANYthing with Davis immediately after her marriage "imploded," just like Jimmy shouldn't have been chasing Kara just after they'd broken up in Season 7. But that's rather beside the point. The "tirade of e-mails" in question was sent BEFORE Jimmy knew anything about Davis and Chloe being together at the Talon (at least, that's what I think). It's wholly unnecessary for him to belittle, insult, and swear at her, and call her all kinds of awful stuff, and then shut off all contact. That's just plain horrid. I kind of wanted Chloe to call up Jimmy mid-episode to try and tell him he'd been right about Davis just to show her acting like the bigger person, but apparently TPTB have other things in mind. I don't really like how either character has been portrayed much this season, mainly when it comes to their relationship.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 10:03 PM
While I think Jimmy is being a bit nutty with the swearing and bad language, I do support Jimmy a LOT more then I do with Chloe. I've always liked Chloe's character but the writers continue to make her look bad in season eight. Even after Chloe discovers that Jimmy was right, was does she do? Decides to stay with Davis anyways under the guise of protecting Clark as if she can stay in a basement for all of eternity.


I hate Chloe but all these young female Chloe fans still thinks Jimmy was wrong. Even Clark knew Jimmy was right.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:04 PM
The b**** in me wanted Jimmy to see chloe with davis but yeah sguthrie your scenario sounds better.

Herod
04-02-2009, 10:04 PM
Man Jimmy was smart. Chloe was a real jerk to be having dinner with Davis so soon after the Jimmy debacle. I mean seriously, she has no class. And poor Clark walking into all that. He looked so awkward.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:05 PM
I hate Chloe but all these young female Chloe fans still thinks Jimmy was wrong. Even Clark knew Jimmy was right.

After he was sure he was wrong! After Clark said he had gone off his wife...why can't you people see its not a debate on what Jimmy said its how he went about saying it that caused the problems.

Herod
04-02-2009, 10:06 PM
Wow, there's lots of polarization on this subject. In my mind, no, Chloe shouldn't have started doing ANYthing with Davis immediately after her marriage "imploded," just like Jimmy shouldn't have been chasing Kara just after they'd broken up in Season 7. But that's rather beside the point. The "tirade of e-mails" in question was sent BEFORE Jimmy knew anything about Davis and Chloe being together at the Talon (at least, that's what I think). It's wholly unnecessary for him to belittle, insult, and swear at her, and call her all kinds of awful stuff, and then shut off all contact. That's just plain horrid. I kind of wanted Chloe to call up Jimmy mid-episode to try and tell him he'd been right about Davis just to show her acting like the bigger person, but apparently TPTB have other things in mind. I don't really like how either character has been portrayed much this season, mainly when it comes to their relationship.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
Yeah, but Chloe having dinner privately with Davis, the man who kissed her while engaged and the man who came between her and Jimmy, is equally horrid.

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 10:07 PM
again jimmy protected chloe from doomsday(nearly getting killed in the process), jimmy has done a lot more for chloe than she has ever done for him.


No kidding....Chloe is going to get what she deserves. And I'm going to enjoy it.

YESSSSSS!!!!

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 10:08 PM
After he was sure he was wrong! After Clark said he had gone off his wife...why can't you people see its not a debate on what Jimmy said its how he went about saying it that caused the problems.
But Clark is the one who is questioning Chloe of how she didn't see it sooner with Davis telling him he had black outs and stuff which she neglected to tell him when he admitted that he was wrong.

Night_Hawk90
04-02-2009, 10:09 PM
After he was sure he was wrong! After Clark said he had gone off his wife...why can't you people see its not a debate on what Jimmy said its how he went about saying it that caused the problems.

i actually commend jimmy with the way he went off on chloe there was no sugarcoating and it went straight to the point i love how someone finally told chloe off, and i know i will be receiving a lot of flack for this comment.

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 10:10 PM
After he was sure he was wrong! After Clark said he had gone off his wife...why can't you people see its not a debate on what Jimmy said its how he went about saying it that caused the problems.

[MOD EDIT]

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i actually commend jimmy with the way he went off on chloe there was no sugarcoating and it went straight to the point i love how someone finally told chloe off, and i know i will be receiving a lot of flack for this comment.


I support you bro, the majority rules. [MOD EDIT]

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:15 PM
But Clark is the one who is questioning Chloe of how she didn't see it sooner with Davis telling him he had black outs and stuff which she neglected to tell him when he admitted that he was wrong.

Yeah because blackouts=serial killer, I'll be sure to inform everyone at that hospital. If Jimmy had settled down and stopped acting like a bi-polar female during her time of the month and presented to Chloe why he thought Davis was the killer I am sure she would have believed him. Clark came to the conclusion by doing research then coming to CHloe then showing her the proof. Chloe didnt deny or try to hide from it.

MrZeppo
04-02-2009, 10:23 PM
After he was sure he was wrong! After Clark said he had gone off his wife...why can't you people see its not a debate on what Jimmy said its how he went about saying it that caused the problems.

I understand what you are saying. You're saying that it wasn't that Jimmy called Chloe out on her BS. It's the fact he was practically verbally abusive in the way he said it. Especially from what Chloe told us of their email conversations since "Turbulence".

I do not support verbal abuse in any way. I have seen how damaging it can be. But when Jimmy first flipped out on Chloe in "Turbulence" I have to say I think he had every right to get angry at her. Everything that spilled out there was every angry and betrayed thought he held inside him. For me it's the difference between justifiable anger and verbal abuse. If the person I loved treated me that way, I'd sure as hell go off on her.

I dunno. I feel he had every right to be angry at that specific moment, he was right about Davis after all, add his growing addiction to the pain meds, and feeling betrayed by Chloe I can't blame him for what he said then. I love Chloe, but from Jimmy's POV she's really treated him badly. I think the reason he has been so harsh was this was the real Jimmy we were seeing, the one who feels righteously angry, the one that doesn't want to censor himself. He said every angry thought he ever had in regards to Chloe.

However in Chloe's defense and an argument to Jimmy's "why did you marry me" argument... Jimmy is an idiot for repeatedly working on their relationship and asking her to marry him when he had so many doubts about them. Every time he talked about how they were "meant to be together" and whatever hardship they may have faced "proves it" made me want to scream. Who was he trying to convince? Us? Chloe? Or himself?

However, from what Chloe described tonight about how Jimmy has been since then, especially the nasty emails with curse words, I completely and utterly do disagree with that. I understand being angry, but talk about beating a dead horse, this is no longer behavior that can be excused by justifiable anger. What she described was pettiness and rage... If he doesn't want to talk to Chloe anymore, fine, so be it. But just walk away man! Don't sit there and cuss her out over email. That is very childish and does scream of verbal abuse.

I wonder if it's a result of his forming addiction for pain medication? It's no excuse, but I'm sure that's having a negative effect on him to be abusing drugs right now.

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah because blackouts=serial killer, I'll be sure to inform everyone at that hospital. If Jimmy had settled down and stopped acting like a bi-polar female during her time of the month and presented to Chloe why he thought Davis was the killer I am sure she would have believed him. Clark came to the conclusion by doing research then coming to CHloe then showing her the proof. Chloe didnt deny or try to hide from it.

It was more then that and you know it. "I think I might have killed people", "when I wake up I'm covered in blood" might have set something off. Jimmy told her when he completely lucid. He tried to tell her and prove to her again but she never wanted to listen. I find it hypocritical that she's willing to give Davis the benefit of the doubt with all his black outs and killing talk which made him look just as crazy as Jimmy but she isn't willing to give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt. It works both ways. And how will Chloe find the truth if she doesn't look for it.

SGuthrie27
04-02-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah because blackouts=serial killer, I'll be sure to inform everyone at that hospital. If Jimmy had settled down and stopped acting like a bi-polar female during her time of the month and presented to Chloe why he thought Davis was the killer I am sure she would have believed him. Clark came to the conclusion by doing research then coming to CHloe then showing her the proof. Chloe didnt deny or try to hide from it.

Exactly, Dyanara. Black-outs do hardly a serial killer make, or we'd have WAY more crazies on our hands. And yeah, she did have a little more evidence, including from Davis, but Davis's story and actions when she was present in "Turbulence" really did make it seem to her, I'm sure, that Davis was innocent. Chloe is very pragmatic and is all about finding the facts and having a case presented before her before she passes judgment. Granted, she shouldn't have declared Davis as absolved of all blame and innocent to Jimmy before researching it a bit more, but still, once she knew the truth, she didn't deny that she'd been wrong.

And also, yeah, she had dinner with him, but that was IT! And that was clearly AFTER many, many attempted conversations via phone, e-mail, etc., with Jimmy repeatedly shutting her down, cussing her out, and verbally abusing her. Why wouldn't she want to have dinner with a friend? Clark hasn't been there for her much at all lately (her birthday is a prime example and her comment to Clark about needing a "shoulder" was more evidence of this), so other than Lois, Davis is really her only friend around right now. And they were JUST having DINNER! Mac 'n cheese in an apartment doesn't seem all that crazy romantic to me. Yeah, yeah, I know, they have loads of chemistry, and obviously their feelings for each other are not completely platonic, but I highly doubt Chloe invited Davis over (or accepted his offer to come fix her dinner) with the goal of thinking of it as a date. She is not that tacky (or tacky at all, in my mind)!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

geminis
04-02-2009, 10:30 PM
Yeah because blackouts=serial killer, I'll be sure to inform everyone at that hospital. If Jimmy had settled down and stopped acting like a bi-polar female during her time of the month and presented to Chloe why he thought Davis was the killer I am sure she would have believed him. Clark came to the conclusion by doing research then coming to CHloe then showing her the proof. Chloe didnt deny or try to hide from it.

Umm, could you rephrase your description of Jimmy? It's rather harsh and offensive.

Like I said; Chloe doesn't necessarily know it, but Jimmy possibly has been overdoing the meds. He was perfectly within reason suspecting Davis, he saw evidence of the EMT's evildoings first hand when he wasn't OD'ing on drugs. But nobody believed him because he was injected with a syringe full of crazy juice by selfsame perpetrator. He's in emotional, mental, and physical pain and he's on his own. Chloe hurt him so he's lashing out at her. Somebody help him, since Chloe has given up on him to help Davis. God help her.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:30 PM
No I don't "know it". Just because I see things differently and am not jumping on the bash Chloe bandwagon, do not be condescending towards me. Chloe had proven to herself and Davis that he was not a killer; that is more than likely the reason why she never opened up that door again. And during the entire episode of Turbulence Chloe was more worried about Jimmy's safety and state of mind. She thought her husband was turning into a nut and that was her first priority. She really didnt care about whether Davis was a killer or not, more than likely it didnt even reach high on her priority list. Chloe's interactions with crazy Davis and Crazy Jimmy are different. One of them she had time to listen and ascertain the truth over a period of time. With Jimmy she wasnt even given the chance because he was too busy PMSing.

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Exactly, Dyanara. Black-outs do hardly a serial killer make, or we'd have WAY more crazies on our hands. And yeah, she did have a little more evidence, including from Davis, but Davis's story and actions when she was present in "Turbulence" really did make it seem to her, I'm sure, that Davis was innocent. Chloe is very pragmatic and is all about finding the facts and having a case presented before her before she passes judgment. Granted, she shouldn't have declared Davis as absolved of all blame and innocent to Jimmy before researching it a bit more, but still, once she knew the truth, she didn't deny that she'd been wrong.



Thank You, that is exactly what I am saying. I agree completely

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 10:31 PM
I hope they make Jimmy full time next season.

Sunny8
04-02-2009, 10:34 PM
...Even after Chloe discovers that Jimmy was right, was does she do? Decides to stay with Davis anyways under the guise of protecting Clark as if she can stay in a basement for all of eternity.

I don't think it is a guise. I think she really thinks that by staying with Davis (not having sex with him or being romantic in any way, that is) she thinks she will stop him from killing Clark. After all, she did think that she had killed him already and she did make the effort to kill him despite Clark not wanting her to do so. I think only the Martian Manhunter could probably do something about Davis. But then he is the ultimate killer so who knows?

Fallen One
04-02-2009, 10:34 PM
I loved how he told her to go to hell after all the crap she did. Visit a guy only once after he saved your life and then taze him for a killer - and you expect him to let that go? Only in her small delusional world.

Go Jimmy!

SGuthrie27
04-02-2009, 10:38 PM
ONLY ONCE?! Argh!!!! How do you really know how often he visited her? She was heading to see him at the end of Legion -- with COOKIES! She was mentioning in Infamous that she wanted some DVDs to bring him! She was going to or from there in some episode in between (can't remember when) and Clark called her to help him -- it was "Bulletproof," I think. And Jimmy himself even made the comment about Chloe loving to be Florence Nightingale to him (which wasn't she a nurse, which would imply that she's been by his bedside a lot while he's in the hospital)?

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

geminis
04-02-2009, 10:38 PM
I understand what you are saying. You're saying that it wasn't that Jimmy called Chloe out on her BS. It's the fact he was practically verbally abusive in the way he said it. Especially from what Chloe told us of their email conversations since "Turbulence".

I do not support verbal abuse in any way. I have seen how damaging it can be. But when Jimmy first flipped out on Chloe in "Turbulence" I have to say I think he had every right to get angry at her. Everything that spilled out there was every angry and betrayed thought he held inside him. For me it's the difference between justifiable anger and verbal abuse. If the person I loved treated me that way, I'd sure as hell go off on her.

I dunno. I feel he had every right to be angry at that specific moment, he was right about Davis after all, add his growing addiction to the pain meds, and feeling betrayed by Chloe I can't blame him for what he said then. I love Chloe, but from Jimmy's POV she's really treated him badly. I think the reason he has been so harsh was this was the real Jimmy we were seeing, the one who feels righteously angry, the one that doesn't want to censor himself. He said every angry thought he ever had in regards to Chloe.

However in Chloe's defense and an argument to Jimmy's "why did you marry me" argument... Jimmy is an idiot for repeatedly working on their relationship and asking her to marry him when he had so many doubts about them. Every time he talked about how they were "meant to be together" and whatever hardship they may have faced "proves it" made me want to scream. Who was he trying to convince? Us? Chloe? Or himself?

However, from what Chloe described tonight about how Jimmy has been since then, especially the nasty emails with curse words, I completely and utterly do disagree with that. I understand being angry, but talk about beating a dead horse, this is no longer behavior that can be excused by justifiable anger. What she described was pettiness and rage... If he doesn't want to talk to Chloe anymore, fine, so be it. But just walk away man! Don't sit there and cuss her out over email. That is very childish and does scream of verbal abuse.

I wonder if it's a result of his forming addiction for pain medication? It's no excuse, but I'm sure that's having a negative effect on him to be abusing drugs right now.

Now this, I can agree with. Verbal abuse is childish and wrong. Human though, unfortunately. Drug abuse is not necessarily an excuse, either but he's not clear headed enough to think rationally. Both of them were reckless fools to rush into marriage. They should have listened to Lois. She may have been drunk, but she was also painfully honest.

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 10:43 PM
ONLY ONCE?! Argh!!!! How do you really know how often he visited her? She was heading to see him at the end of Legion -- with COOKIES! She was mentioning in Infamous that she wanted some DVDs to bring him! She was going to or from there in some episode in between (can't remember when) and Clark called her to help him -- it was "Bulletproof," I think. And Jimmy himself even made the comment about Chloe loving to be Florence Nightingale to him (which wasn't she a nurse, which would imply that she's been by his bedside a lot while he's in the hospital)?

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Sorry....Chloe is no angel....She's JUDAS!!!!

SGuthrie27
04-02-2009, 10:44 PM
Bias, much? I didn't say she's an angel -- I was just bringing back proof that she wasn't as horrible a wife as many are making her out to be, and to show that she DID visit her ailing husband on MULTIPLE occasions while he was sick.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

jpfort1957
04-02-2009, 10:46 PM
Chloe didn't seem all that upset about locking the door. Concidering the lock was on the wrong side of a basement door..........she may have used that basement before.

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 10:47 PM
bias, much? I didn't say she's an angel -- i was just bringing back proof that she wasn't as horrible a wife as many are making her out to be, and to show that she did visit her ailing husband on multiple occasions while he was sick.

--sguthrie ><>' :)--

[mod edit]

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Chloe didn't seem all that upset about locking the door. Concidering the lock was on the wrong side of a basement door..........she may have used that basement before.


To harbor other fugitives of course. JK though Doomsday isn't the only baddy that she has tried to help.

Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 10:54 PM
No I don't "know it". Just because I see things differently and am not jumping on the bash Chloe bandwagon, do not be condescending towards me. Chloe had proven to herself and Davis that he was not a killer; that is more than likely the reason why she never opened up that door again. And during the entire episode of Turbulence Chloe was more worried about Jimmy's safety and state of mind. She thought her husband was turning into a nut and that was her first priority. She really didnt care about whether Davis was a killer or not, more than likely it didnt even reach high on her priority list. Chloe's interactions with crazy Davis and Crazy Jimmy are different. One of them she had time to listen and ascertain the truth over a period of time. With Jimmy she wasnt even given the chance because he was too busy PMSing.


I am not being condescending. You are claiming Chloe has an alibi for not seeing that Davis is a killer and I am refuting you. And now you are claiming not that she couldn't see it, it's that she didn't care enough to see it and I think that should be allowed to deserve ire from some fans. That's the difference between Jimmy and Chloe is that he could have just believed Davis' alibi about him seeing things because of his medication too but he investigated Davis anyways. Chloe just gave up. And it is illogical and wrong for her to do so is all I am claiming when more evidence that presents doubt keeps appearing in front of her. Jimmy didn't even have all the information that Chloe knows and he still investigated him.

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I hope they make Jimmy full time next season.

Cheers to that. Ironically he's the only character that ever finds the truth in this series but no one ever listens to him. He found out Clark was the blur and Davis is the killer. Maybe if they kept him around some of the other characters will wise up.:lol:

RPintorO
04-02-2009, 11:13 PM
ONLY ONCE?! Argh!!!! How do you really know how often he visited her? She was heading to see him at the end of Legion -- with COOKIES! She was mentioning in Infamous that she wanted some DVDs to bring him! She was going to or from there in some episode in between (can't remember when) and Clark called her to help him -- it was "Bulletproof," I think. And Jimmy himself even made the comment about Chloe loving to be Florence Nightingale to him (which wasn't she a nurse, which would imply that she's been by his bedside a lot while he's in the hospital)?

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Who gives a fart about "...with COOKIES". She could of brought buttermilk pancakes to Jimmy for all or most of us care about, that still doesn't justify on how she couldn't trust Jimmy enough to believe in him and take his word on the matter.

VagrantDream
04-02-2009, 11:15 PM
Actually the revelation in this ep cemented Jimmy's douche rep to me. I'm very, very glad Chloe's not with him.

geminis
04-02-2009, 11:18 PM
I am not being condescending. You are claiming Chloe has an alibi for not seeing that Davis is a killer and I am refuting you. And now you are claiming not that she couldn't see it, it's that she didn't care enough to see it and I think that should be allowed to deserve ire from some fans. That's the difference between Jimmy and Chloe is that he could have just believed Davis' alibi about him seeing things because of his medication too but he investigated Davis anyways. Chloe just gave up. And it is illogical and wrong for her to do so is all I am claiming when more evidence that presents doubt keeps appearing in front of her. Jimmy didn't even have all the information that Chloe knows and he still investigated him.

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Cheers to that. Ironically he's the only character that ever finds the truth in this series but no one ever listens to him. He found out Clark was the blur and Davis is the killer. Maybe if they kept him around some of the other characters will wise up.:lol:

It is ironic. Jimmy is showing more investigative skills than Chloe has recently, despite his mostly being known as a photographer.

Lilah
04-02-2009, 11:20 PM
I would trade all the Chlavis scenes for just one minute of Aaron Ashmore!!! He's just so awesome! GO JIMMY!

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah, I hope Jimmy gets more screen time in next season. :)

Sports72Xtrm
04-03-2009, 12:23 AM
I understand what you are saying. You're saying that it wasn't that Jimmy called Chloe out on her BS. It's the fact he was practically verbally abusive in the way he said it. Especially from what Chloe told us of their email conversations since "Turbulence".

I do not support verbal abuse in any way. I have seen how damaging it can be. But when Jimmy first flipped out on Chloe in "Turbulence" I have to say I think he had every right to get angry at her. Everything that spilled out there was every angry and betrayed thought he held inside him. For me it's the difference between justifiable anger and verbal abuse. If the person I loved treated me that way, I'd sure as hell go off on her.

I dunno. I feel he had every right to be angry at that specific moment, he was right about Davis after all, add his growing addiction to the pain meds, and feeling betrayed by Chloe I can't blame him for what he said then. I love Chloe, but from Jimmy's POV she's really treated him badly. I think the reason he has been so harsh was this was the real Jimmy we were seeing, the one who feels righteously angry, the one that doesn't want to censor himself. He said every angry thought he ever had in regards to Chloe.

However in Chloe's defense and an argument to Jimmy's "why did you marry me" argument... Jimmy is an idiot for repeatedly working on their relationship and asking her to marry him when he had so many doubts about them. Every time he talked about how they were "meant to be together" and whatever hardship they may have faced "proves it" made me want to scream. Who was he trying to convince? Us? Chloe? Or himself?

However, from what Chloe described tonight about how Jimmy has been since then, especially the nasty emails with curse words, I completely and utterly do disagree with that. I understand being angry, but talk about beating a dead horse, this is no longer behavior that can be excused by justifiable anger. What she described was pettiness and rage... If he doesn't want to talk to Chloe anymore, fine, so be it. But just walk away man! Don't sit there and cuss her out over email. That is very childish and does scream of verbal abuse.

I wonder if it's a result of his forming addiction for pain medication? It's no excuse, but I'm sure that's having a negative effect on him to be abusing drugs right now.

I think Jimmy is allowed to hold a grudge. Was he being verbally abusive? Does he go out of his way to yell at Chloe? I thought he was just still angry and wanted Chloe to stop contacting him and leave him alone. I didn't expect him to forgive her anytime soon. He's lashing out but it's because Chloe keeps harassing him. I'm assuming this since Chloe said that Jimmy wanted her not call or write him again.

ginnyfan
04-03-2009, 12:28 AM
Jimmy hurt my feelings being so mean to Chloe. However, If Jimmy were neutral, Chloe would look a lot worse being friendly with Davis so soon. Especially after finding out what he is. :(

Kschreck
04-03-2009, 12:31 AM
I think Jimmy is allowed to hold a grudge. Was he being verbally abusive? Does he go out of his way to yell at Chloe? I thought he was just still angry and wanted Chloe to stop contacting him and leave him alone. I didn't expect him to forgive her anytime soon. He's lashing out but it's because Chloe keeps harassing him. I'm assuming this since Chloe said that Jimmy wanted her not call or write him again.


Here is how I truly feel about this situation. I think Jimmy has gotten a little to angry over Chloe taking sides and lying to him 24/7. That being said, he does have every right to be upset with Chloe. Chloe has been "distant" from him for a long time now and he has always known this but has decided to try and work things through anyways.

He understood and even accepted the past relationship and what not with Clark but when Chloe started taking Davis's side over his, that is when he flipped. Quite frankly, I would be just as upset as he is if my wife did that to me. People act as if Jimmy isn't allowed to be mad at Chloe for anything Chloe does but that's just not fair. I am a Chloe fan just as much as a Jimmy fan and I can tell you that Chloe could have been a little more honest with him. I don't really blame Jimmy at all for the way he is acting and quite frankly I feel bad for the man who worked so hard to have a real relationship with Chloe who is now apparently living with a monster that tried to kill her husband.

It's like a bad joke but in honesty, it's (and this is debatable) more or less bad writing for Chloe's character. Funny how the writers for Hex did an amazing job with Chloe and then the actual two producers who will be heading season nine did a horrible job with the entire episode of Eternal (both with Chloe and with all of the plot holes).

RPintorO
04-03-2009, 12:39 AM
Here is how I truly feel about this situation. I think Jimmy has gotten a little to angry over Chloe taking sides and lying to him 24/7. That being said, he does have every right to be upset with Chloe. Chloe has been "distant" from him for a long time now and he has always known this but has decided to try and work things through anyways.

He understood and even accepted the past relationship and what not with Clark but when Chloe started taking Davis's side over his, that is when he flipped. Quite frankly, I would be just as upset as he is if my wife did that to me. People act as if Jimmy isn't allowed to be mad at Chloe for anything Chloe does but that's just not fair. I am a Chloe fan just as much as a Jimmy fan and I can tell you that Chloe could have been a little more honest with him. I don't really blame Jimmy at all for the way he is acting and quite frankly I feel bad for the man who worked so hard to have a real relationship with Chloe who is now apparently living with a monster that tried to kill her husband.

It's like a bad joke but in honesty, it's (and this is debatable) more or less bad writing for Chloe's character. Funny how the writers for Hex did an amazing job with Chloe and then the actual two producers who will be heading season nine did a horrible job with the entire episode of Eternal (both with Chloe and with all of the plot holes).

Amen