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Smallville55
04-02-2009, 08:55 PM
After tonight's episode, it's revealed that somehow Chloe can control Davis from turning into Doomsday. What do you guys think Chloe and Davis' connection is about? Her meteor powers and something bout her abilities or the fact that he loves her and all that? Personally, i think it has something to do with her abilities.

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 08:59 PM
This is becoming some sort of sick love thing between the two characters. Beauty and the Beast. :lol:

smeyer44
04-02-2009, 09:01 PM
my guess is that the need to kill is trumped by the need to procreate, which would obviously be manifested in his love for Chloe

Karafan1
04-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Maybe she still has a little bit of Brainiac in her..

jpfort1957
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Chloe's dad should have told her years ago that guys will tell girls anything.............to get what they want.

Zeth Duuron
04-02-2009, 09:22 PM
This is nothing new. We found out Chloe could keep Davis from turning into Brainiac a couple of episodes where he was about to go all berserker and rip Jimmy a new level of existence but Chloe put her hand on his shoulder and he was all good. He simply loves her. One could say the initial connection was Brainiac, but honestly, Davis and Chloe had that electric connection before anything was said. Brainiac simply used that natural chemistry as is natural selection of Chloe to be the one who would bring Doomsday out.

Clana4Life
04-02-2009, 09:54 PM
This is nothing new. We found out Chloe could keep Davis from turning into Brainiac a couple of episodes where he was about to go all berserker and rip Jimmy a new level of existence but Chloe put her hand on his shoulder and he was all good. He simply loves her. One could say the initial connection was Brainiac, but honestly, Davis and Chloe had that electric connection before anything was said. Brainiac simply used that natural chemistry as is natural selection of Chloe to be the one who would bring Doomsday out.

Totally agree. She's in love with him. She can deny it all she wants, but she's in love with him. There was really no need to "lock the door". I thought the idea was that she needed to be near him. I would think that living upstairs while he lives downstairs is close enough. The fact that she locked HERSELF in there with him says something to me. I think she was actually locking others out. Are they going to talk all night? :rolleyes: He had a bed, desk and everything down there. This is all one step from Chloe have a bigger belly in S9, if you ask me, but I'll talk more about that in the Speculation thread.

chlo-el
04-02-2009, 10:51 PM
Their connection are soooo feelings. They both showed their love for each other. They both tried to do the right and sacraficial thing to save everyone but it just didn't work. I really think hat was keeps his human form human is feeling human, feeling human emotions like love.

Clana4Life
04-02-2009, 10:53 PM
Their connection are soooo feelings. They both showed their love for each other. They both tried to do the right and sacraficial thing to save everyone but it just didn't work. I really think hat was keeps his human form human is feeling human, feeling human emotions like love.

I agree. I wish Chlavis had more time, but I fear there story is soon to end.

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 10:58 PM
I don't think Chloe should feel anything for him. I understand that she might feel bad for his human like side to him but that doesn't mean she should BFF him and help him the way that she is.

VagrantDream
04-02-2009, 11:05 PM
Clana4Life
Agreed. And it breaks my heart. This is the first SV relationship that has really grabbed me. This ep just seals the deal. And I want so bad for them to have a chance!

Also, on topic, I think it's their feelings because of the nature of her powers.
If she was somehow doing this with empathy then she would be in pain (the transformation causes him pain).

IHeartClois
04-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Its definately the feelings, but now for some reason I have a feeling these two are gonna end up dying together in the finale.

Kschreck
04-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Its definately the feelings, but now for some reason I have a feeling these two are gonna end up dying together in the finale.


The beast in beauty's arms. ;)

Eeyore840
04-02-2009, 11:47 PM
I think it is the feelings, but whatever the connection is, I'm glad they have it. It is one of the most believable connections ever portrayed on Smallville, imo.

vikingjedi
04-02-2009, 11:54 PM
I think Davis is playing games with Chloe. First Brainiac uses her and now Doomsday is manipulating her. He's trying to take Chloe away from Clark which will make Clark weaker. Like Lex took away Lana.

borednow
04-02-2009, 11:57 PM
I don't know what it is but it makes me feel sick...

The Dark Knight74
04-03-2009, 12:00 AM
I think it has something to do w/their feelings for each other.

AChloeChick
04-03-2009, 12:04 AM
I don't know what it is but it makes me feel sick...

The Chlavis connection makes you feel sick, but you're okay with a Sam/Ruby hook-up (going by your avi)?

It doesn't make me feel sick. What makes me sick, they FINALLY give Chloe the type of guy and relationship I can totally get behind because it's everything it should be and he HAS to be freakin' DD.

Now that makes me SICK!

borednow
04-03-2009, 12:09 AM
The Chlavis connection makes you feel sick, but you're okay with a Sam/Ruby hook-up (going by your avi)?!

Well for one neither Sam nor Ruby are married, two Ruby didn't intentionally break up any of Sam's relationships, she even offered to back off when Dean came back because she didn't want to come between them :eek:, and three Ruby doesn't threaten to kill someone if Sam doesn't stay in the basement with her. :p

P.S. I'm not only okay with Sam/Ruby hook-up, I think it's awesome!

P.P.S. Four: Ruby has never in any universe at any time killed Sam, unlike what DD did in Infamous...

ginnyfan
04-03-2009, 12:13 AM
I think Davis doesn't transform because he loves Chloe. I don't think it has to do with her feelings necessarily. It's clear to me after Davis' death scene that she cares for him also. But I don't think her feelings are why he doesn't transform. It's compelling to think that Davis' love for Chloe is stronger than Doomsday's urge to kill. It was more compelling before "Transference" but...

latingirl
04-03-2009, 12:14 AM
connection= wild-animal excelent SEX ;)

Clarkgirl8
04-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Combination of both? :lol: Not sure, I can't wait to kno though, If it doesn't happen offscreen.

Minamostaza
04-03-2009, 04:58 AM
Their love for each other

workshyslacker
04-03-2009, 05:00 AM
A combination of both. It may be that its Chloe's latent powers but they both think its sweet sweet lurve. :p

luthorian
04-03-2009, 05:15 AM
I think it's love but I would like for her powers to be a part of it too. :)

shamville
04-03-2009, 06:32 AM
She have Jean grey powers.

costas22
04-03-2009, 06:52 AM
I would like to think that it's the fact that she still has Brainiac's ability to control Dooms.Maybe Brainiac replaced her healing power with that.

wafflles87
04-03-2009, 07:12 AM
Good LORD I hope it's not the feelings aproach. PLEASE let it not be that. PLEASE give a decent scientific answer.

workshyslacker
04-03-2009, 07:13 AM
Good LORD I hope it's not the feelings aproach. PLEASE let it not be that. PLEASE give a decent scientific answer.

It's love, I tell you!:p

Billy Jor-El
04-03-2009, 07:40 AM
Well, it is a complicated issue, isn't it? I hope it isn't any lingering Brainiac influence on Chloe; I want to see her be herself, make her own choices, right or wrong. And where does Clark have the right to walk right into her apartment without calling or knocking???? He's upset to see she's spending time with Davis, more time than she should in his opinion, but he isn't there to be the shoulder to lean on that she so desperately needs. OK, perhaps the genetic opposition of Kal-El to Doomsday makes them dislike each other no matter what. Davis does have feelings for Chloe; love? Well, he thinks so. And Chloe? She's had so much going on that to remotely think she could be in love with him so soon after Jimmy, and everything that comes under the umbrella of Clark is naive. She has feelings for him, to be sure, and with no one else to lean on in a very troubled time for her, she finds herself open to explore those feelings. I hope it doesn't get her into trouble! But her genuine compassion for him keeps the Beast from coming forward, that power in itself is worth exploring if Davis could ever be saved from what appears to be his dark destiny......

costas22
04-03-2009, 07:45 AM
Chloe has feelings for Davis but they are not the same as Davis'.

Autumn
04-03-2009, 08:13 AM
Their connection are soooo feelings. They both showed their love for each other. They both tried to do the right and sacraficial thing to save everyone but it just didn't work. I really think hat was keeps his human form human is feeling human, feeling human emotions like love.

Yep. And I love it. Davis' love for Chloe is just...so epic and romantic. I was so surprised when he said it. I want their love to be stronger than the beast within. That would be awesome!

----- Added 51 Seconds later -----


Chloe has feelings for Davis but they are not the same as Davis'.

But I think they're getting there. The way she ran to him and put her hand up on the glass? Yeah, she's falling.

costas22
04-03-2009, 08:22 AM
But I think they're getting there. The way she ran to him and put her hand up on the glass? Yeah, she's falling.

She does care about him and maybe that's why she did that thing with her hand.But i don't think that finding out who he really is,sits comfortably with her.I just feel that if she was in love with him she wouldn't have pulled the lever.As soon As Clark got involved it looked like being a no brainer for her.

Iluvgreen
04-03-2009, 10:27 AM
She doesn't love him! He's gonna kill her best firiend! And he's the ultimate destroyer!!! How can he love her?

Davis Bloome
04-03-2009, 10:29 AM
I think she does love him. Despite being good buddies with Clark, their love developped when Chloe didn't know he was destined to kill Clark. If she had then it would have turned out different. But now she did fall in love and she's stuck with it and you can't throw those feelings easily aside. So she's staying with him because she does love Davis and because she hopes that she will be able to control the beast in him (except maybe in bed lol)

SuperV83
04-03-2009, 10:36 AM
I think it is the feelings, but whatever the connection is, I'm glad they have it. It is one of the most believable connections ever portrayed on Smallville, imo.

I completely agree. :o


I really love these two actors. They play off each other so well!

Eeyore840
04-03-2009, 10:43 AM
Davis Bloome, AWESOME AVI!!! :);)



...She's had so much going on that to remotely think she could be in love with him so soon after Jimmy...

I don't believe Chloe truly did love Jimmy, or that he truly did love her. I think they are finally realizing that they talked themselves into that marriage and into being in love with each other, but they both had plenty of underlying doubts about the relationship working. Not to mention the whole Chimmy 'relationship' was a lame plot device to move Chloe away from Clark, but that's for another thread...

chlo-el
04-03-2009, 10:51 AM
I think she does love him. Despite being good buddies with Clark, their love developped when Chloe didn't know he was destined to kill Clark. If she had then it would have turned out different. But now she did fall in love and she's stuck with it and you can't throw those feelings easily aside. So she's staying with him because she does love Davis and because she hopes that she will be able to control the beast in him (except maybe in bed lol)

I do too. And she even admited that she thought she had feelings for him before she found out he was a serial killer. And the way she cried before pulling the lever and not being able to kill him really showed her feelings and then that hand scene. It's something she couldn't shut off. And she would have sacraficed him and her love to save the world and Clark but if she can find a way to make sure the Beast doesn't come out she'll do it.

davidbrenton
04-03-2009, 11:38 AM
I feel jipped. I thought the connection would be exprapolated on. Booh!

Eeyore840
04-03-2009, 11:39 AM
I feel jipped. I thought the connection would be exprapolated on. Booh!


Perhaps in the next episode?

Tompouce
04-03-2009, 12:44 PM
It is really hard for me to admit it (lol) but I think Chloe has feelings for Davis. I was not sure until there that it was not her good heart and soul which make her help Davis but now I can say I think I was wrong. She feels something and it is not friendship, snif !

Violet-Shadow
04-03-2009, 12:46 PM
I think it has less do with their feelings for each other and more to do with Davis' feelings for Chloe. It's obvious that Chloe cares for him but not the same way that Davis loves her. However, I don't think his love for Chloe will ALWAYS keep the beast at bay. It's not like he's Bruce Banner/Hulk and she's Betty Ross, after all. ;)

AChloeChick
04-03-2009, 12:47 PM
Well for one neither Sam nor Ruby are married, two Ruby didn't intentionally break up any of Sam's relationships, she even offered to back off when Dean came back because she didn't want to come between them :eek:, and three Ruby doesn't threaten to kill someone if Sam doesn't stay in the basement with her. :p

P.S. I'm not only okay with Sam/Ruby hook-up, I think it's awesome!

P.P.S. Four: Ruby has never in any universe at any time killed Sam, unlike what DD did in Infamous...

Thanks for clearing that up. However, I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you on both of these.

Chimmy has ALWAYS had their share of problems, and they continually kept sweeping things under-the-rug and never ever dealt with. Whether Davis came along or not, Chimmy just wouldn't have lasted.

Chimmy NEVER should have gotten married in the first place. I'm convinced Bride was more about beauty and the beast than about Chloe and Jimmy. It was extremely foolish of TPTB to take Chimmy to this extreme just to split them up a few epis later, espceilly how ugly they've made the breakup.

Chimmy is no longer together. Like Lexana, we won't be seeing them signing papers or anything (Clark, the hero of the show didn't even wait for that marriage to break up before he dove in). We did, however, see Chloe take off her ring, put things behind her (including the marriage), and embrace a new life.

We don't know for certain IF DD killed Chloe in Infamous. He may and he may not have. As far as I can tell, there is not proof one way or the other. I think it boils down to your own personal perspective.

I have seen Davis back off when it comes to Chloe and Jimmy (SW has confirmed this himself in his latest interview). Now that Chloe and Jimmy are no longer together, I have no problem with him/them continuing their relationship. Again, it's all a matter of personal perspective.

Davis has not threatened to kill Clark. He KNOWS now that he is most definitely destined to do so. He simply used the fact that being around Chloe helps him control the beast within him and hopes it will keep him from killing Clark. You and I know it's not going to work, but he and Chloe don't know that. Besides, Clark is the one who asked Davis if there was at least one thing that was worth giving himself a second chance (paraphrased), and he's the one who told Chloe there's ALWAYS another way.

It seems to me they both took Clark's advice. To Davis, Chloe is worth fighting this thing and for Chloe, Davis, Clark, and the world are worth protecting.

As for Sam and Ruby, I find it absolutely ick and sick. Not only has he done it with a demon, but it's a demon possessing a dead body. YUCK! Plus, he's sucking demon blood and justifying his actions. Not only that, Ruby is egging him on to use his abilities. Sure, it seems to be for the right reasons. But still, Sam should and does know better.

Anyway, I'm glad you enjoy Sam and Ruby. Some of us do and some of us don't. Just like Chloe and Davis. Some of us enjoy it and some of us don't.

It's all a matter or personal preference!

superjude
04-03-2009, 01:39 PM
I was thinking at first that it was the meteor healing empathy thing going on with Chloe, But after last night, I am more convinced that it is the love connection.

Lelak
04-03-2009, 01:47 PM
It must be love. Chloe knows that Davis wrecked her marriage (and almost killed her husband), is a mass murderer, and was sent to earth to kill her best friend and possibly destroy the planet - what's not to love?

Last week Chloe was awesome (Watchtower), this last episode makes me think that the shark was jumped.

Violet-Shadow
04-03-2009, 01:50 PM
It must be love. Chloe knows that Davis wrecked her marriage (and almost killed her husband), is a mass murderer, and was sent to earth to kill her best friend and possibly destroy the planet - what's not to love?



Seriously. What a great love story. :rolleyes:

Joelito
04-03-2009, 02:23 PM
Maybe some Chlarkers don't wanna read or hear this, but is the truth:
Their feelings for each other.

AChloeChick
04-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Many people are finding it to be a great love story. I'm pretty sure that's what TPTB were going for. There is simply too many BAtB references and scenes to be ignored.

BAtB stories have been around for years, and people STILL LOVE them! I've never really been a big fan of them, but I am sold on Chlavis. I'm absolutely enjoying it.

FlyingHigh
04-03-2009, 03:01 PM
I would like to think that it's the fact that she still has Brainiac's ability to control Dooms.Maybe Brainiac replaced her healing power with that.

I'm agreeing with the bolded part. Probably Brainiac could find a new vessel to inhabit if Dooms killed Chloe's body, but that would be a pain. I don't think Brainiac had to replace anything, just add a subroutine that tells Dooms "Submit to/don't kill this body".

How that manifests itself is another matter.

Atomic girl
04-03-2009, 04:14 PM
But I think they're getting there. The way she ran to him and put her hand up on the glass? Yeah, she's falling.
I really saw that as Chloe acknowledging a great man, but knowing that the Destroyer (Doomsday) could only be destroyed by killing both, so to speak. Davis/Doomy was dying in his Davis state and Davis tried to be honorable. I'd cry as I witnessed an honorable man die, even if I had no romantic feelings for him. Davis, at a minimum is a friend and I think most would cry if they saw a friend die. Putting her hand up there was just a sign of compassion and trying to offer him some comfort. I'd love to see Davis and Doomy separated and Chloe given a chance with Davis, but I really just saw this as human compassion. Maybe there is more beyond that, but she didn't "plant" one on him as a last gesture like she did with Clark. We've seen her in "romantic" mode and this wasn't really it. I give kudos to her for trying to reach out and be compassionate.

Now to see what happens next......

Violet-Shadow
04-03-2009, 04:16 PM
I really saw that as Chloe acknowledging a great man, but knowing that the Destroyer (Doomsday) could only be destroyed by killing both, so to speak. Davis/Doomy was dying in his Davis state and Davis tried to be honorable. I'd cry as I witnessed an honorable man die, even if I had no romantic feelings for him. Davis, at a minimum is a friend and I think most would cry if they saw a friend die. Putting her hand up there was just a sign of compassion and trying to offer him some comfort. I'd love to see Davis and Doomy separated and Chloe given a chance with Davis, but I really just saw this as human compassion. Maybe there is more beyond that, but she didn't "plant" one on him as a last gesture like she did with Clark. We've seen her in "romantic" mode and this wasn't really it. I give kudos to her for trying to reach out and be compassionate.

Now to see what happens next......

ITA. Except I wouldn't call Davis honorable.

Dustmite
04-03-2009, 04:24 PM
Maybe some Chlarkers don't wanna read or hear this, but is the truth:
Their feelings for each other.

What have Chlarkers got to do with the price of bread?

It's not Chlark I'm worried about but the fact that Dommy has a compulsion to rip limb from limb now and again and that he's destined to smoosh Clark. It's that idea that doesn't sit right with me.


Good LORD I hope it's not the feelings aproach. PLEASE let it not be that. PLEASE give a decent scientific answer.

Or at least a scientific answer that I won't believe in a million years but let it be scientific.

Maria1023
04-03-2009, 04:35 PM
It has to be the feelings between them has had an impact on his transformations. Chloe fell for Davis way before she found out about his dark side, so she still feels close to him in that way. She can't help but still feel things for him. I am loving the way this whole Beauty and the Beast storyline is playing out. Honestly, if I had a chance to lock myself in a room with Davis Bloom, I would take it....:lol:

borednow
04-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. However, I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you on both of these.

Chimmy has ALWAYS had their share of problems, and they continually kept sweeping things under-the-rug and never ever dealt with. Whether Davis came along or not, Chimmy just wouldn't have lasted.
You're perspective, not mine.


Chimmy NEVER should have gotten married in the first place. I'm convinced Bride was more about beauty and the beast than about Chloe and Jimmy. It was extremely foolish of TPTB to take Chimmy to this extreme just to split them up a few epis later, espceilly how ugly they've made the breakup.
BatB? Seriously? *sigh* The Beast was NEVER and out of control killing machine. He was physically ugly and had to find a woman who could love him for who he was on the inside. BatB was about love transcending the physical, Chlavis is about well... I would say martyr complexes transcending the sanity...


Chimmy is no longer together. Like Lexana, we won't be seeing them signing papers or anything (Clark, the hero of the show didn't even wait for that marriage to break up before he dove in). We did, however, see Chloe take off her ring, put things behind her (including the marriage), and embrace a new life.
Actually Lexana mentioned an annulment, and Davis was kissing Chloe when she was engaged, was hanging around Chloe when she was married...


We don't know for certain IF DD killed Chloe in Infamous. He may and he may not have. As far as I can tell, there is not proof one way or the other. I think it boils down to your own personal perspective.
Yes because we know how it's worked out for everyone else he told to run... and I'm sure he was tearing into Chloe's car so they could cuddle... :rolleyes:


I have seen Davis back off when it comes to Chloe and Jimmy (SW has confirmed this himself in his latest interview). Now that Chloe and Jimmy are no longer together, I have no problem with him/them continuing their relationship. Again, it's all a matter of personal perspective.
When did that happen? When he was calling her on her wedding day? In Turbulence? Real backing off there... :rolleyes:


Davis has not threatened to kill Clark. He KNOWS now that he is most definitely destined to do so. He simply used the fact that being around Chloe helps him control the beast within him and hopes it will keep him from killing Clark. You and I know it's not going to work, but he and Chloe don't know that. Besides, Clark is the one who asked Davis if there was at least one thing that was worth giving himself a second chance (paraphrased), and he's the one who told Chloe there's ALWAYS another way.
Okay but he is still using the whole I'm going to kill Clark thing to shack up with Chloe... seriously gross...


It seems to me they both took Clark's advice. To Davis, Chloe is worth fighting this thing and for Chloe, Davis, Clark, and the world are worth protecting.
And everything Clark said in that episode was idiotic...


As for Sam and Ruby, I find it absolutely ick and sick. Not only has he done it with a demon, but it's a demon possessing a dead body.
Well in your Chlavis land Chloe would be screwing a monster that formed from what looked like snot... Second of all Ruby's body is alive... the soul is gone she is animating it but the heart is beating and she is breathing.


YUCK! Plus, he's sucking demon blood and justifying his actions. Not only that, Ruby is egging him on to use his abilities. Sure, it seems to be for the right reasons. But still, Sam should and does know better.
Well Chloe is justifying mass murder... Davis has a bone yard that puts almost any serial killer in history to shame! And they are justifying it! He had a hard life, they weren't nice people. *gags* Chloe should know better! :mad:

Sam is a human who can't get rid of a Demon side, Ruby is a demon who can't get rid of a human side. Their is symmetry there. And well he may be using Ruby to help him with his powers he has always been willing to use his powers to do what needs to be done. Look all the way back to season 1. Ruby isn't exactly a corruption influence on him in that way.


Anyway, I'm glad you enjoy Sam and Ruby. Some of us do and some of us don't. Just like Chloe and Davis. Some of us enjoy it and some of us don't.

It's all a matter or personal preference!
Well that's fine with me but you're original point was if I liked Sam/Ruby I must logically be willing to like Chlavis... obviously there was a lot wrong with that point as we both see them as entirely different ships with very different circumstances surrounding them.

umm
04-03-2009, 04:48 PM
my guess is that the need to kill is trumped by the need to procreate, which would obviously be manifested in his love for Chloe

God, procreating with the 'Doomsday'! That's a violent, disturbing and disgusting thought! One which can function as a laxative if one want's to throw up ones meals!

Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 04:50 PM
:lol:
God, procreating with the 'Doomsday'! That's a violent, disturbing and disgusting thought! One which can function as a laxative if one want's to throw up ones meals!

rehana/chole
04-03-2009, 05:59 PM
love ???????? he is blackmailing her in satying with him anyone who nows chole now she will die for clark davis now that 2 , chole didnot want kill him she was scared but wen he was abt 2 become dd an kick clark but she pain an pull d switch killin him for clark love no i odnt think chole loves davi may b like him but she will still put clark fist if he did say ; saty wit me an i would not kill clark u tam the beast she would havv gone 2 clark.

AChloeChick
04-03-2009, 11:43 PM
You're perspective, not mine.

Well that's fine with me but you're original point was if I liked Sam/Ruby I must logically be willing to like Chlavis... obviously there was a lot wrong with that point as we both see them as entirely different ships with very different circumstances surrounding them.

That's why I originally said we'd have to agree to disagree. You find Chlavis sick and I find Sam and Ruby sick. Again, it's all a matter of personal preference; nothing more, nothing less.

Supsfan
04-04-2009, 01:48 AM
Did I ever mention I think it would be much more entertaining if Doomsday was just a Luthorcorp lab experiment. I can honestly give a rats ass about there connection and unfortuntly I have a feeling we will hear more about it in the next few episodes.

devilneedsaride
04-04-2009, 05:43 AM
I've been taking it for granted that it's an emotional thing. It would be so much better if it were some latent aspect of her krypto-power, like empathy or some such.

So.
Much.
Better.

Too bad I seriously doubt they'll take it that route. That might go a long way towards redeeming the show in my eyes.

Lelak
04-04-2009, 08:43 AM
Seriously. What a great love story. :rolleyes:

You apparently don't know what sarcasm is :rolleyes:

Autumn
04-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Their love connection is beautiful! :) Go Chlavis!!!!

Oh, and I just wanted to add that Chloe's hand on the glass looked like a love connection to me! I've re-watched the hands on the glass scene several times now. Anyway, it's really cool if you pay attention. But when Chloe puts her hand up, it's like their connection is so deep that they are confessing their feelings to one another as he dies. They talk without words. Then she looks at him and purposely opens her fingers, telling him to hold her hand with her eyes. Afterward, Davis understands, lifts his hand and purposely places his fingers in between hers, so it is like their hands are intertwined. Then he smiles and dies. He realized she loved him I think which is why he is so willing to ask her to stay at the end of the episode. He knows how she feels. Just even more romantic when you pay attention to the details. I think it is my favorite Smallville scene of all time. It's like I'm watching a new show.

Oh, and the purposeful set design in the background of the basement is very telling. The big poster says: "Casa Bronte: A Love Story," with a couple epically kissing in the background. It's clearly telling us that Chloe and Davis are a love story. :)

borednow
04-04-2009, 07:37 PM
You apparently don't know what sarcasm is :rolleyes:

I think she got it...

Violet-Shadow
04-04-2009, 07:53 PM
You apparently don't know what sarcasm is :rolleyes:

I got it. I was agreeing with you.

Mickey_Bickey
04-04-2009, 08:07 PM
Well, I have to say that the actors have good chemistry on screen. I just don't like that he's Doomsday. Sorry everyone! I don't want Chloe with him for that reason. If somehow they could seperate them, then maybe I'd be for it, but Davis/Doomsday is one in the same.

I did vote feelings though.

thehenry89
04-04-2009, 08:15 PM
W/E it is I dont get it.

borednow
04-04-2009, 08:22 PM
I got it. I was agreeing with you.

I will step in and agree also.

Autumn
04-04-2009, 09:58 PM
I get it! Their love is the most beautiful love story Smallville has ever told.

chlo-el
04-04-2009, 10:03 PM
I get it! Their love is the most beautiful love story Smallville has ever told.

It is. I love it. What's more beautiful then love stopping the unstoppable?

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Their love connection is beautiful! :) Go Chlavis!!!!

Oh, and I just wanted to add that Chloe's hand on the glass looked like a love connection to me! I've re-watched the hands on the glass scene several times now. Anyway, it's really cool if you pay attention. But when Chloe puts her hand up, it's like their connection is so deep that they are confessing their feelings to one another as he dies. They talk without words. Then she looks at him and purposely opens her fingers, telling him to hold her hand with her eyes. Afterward, Davis understands, lifts his hand and purposely places his fingers in between hers, so it is like their hands are intertwined. Then he smiles and dies. He realized she loved him I think which is why he is so willing to ask her to stay at the end of the episode. He knows how she feels. Just even more romantic when you pay attention to the details. I think it is my favorite Smallville scene of all time. It's like I'm watching a new show.

Oh, and the purposeful set design in the background of the basement is very telling. The big poster says: "Casa Bronte: A Love Story," with a couple epically kissing in the background. It's clearly telling us that Chloe and Davis are a love story. :)

Wow. that's really neat, how you examined all of the details. That makes me love that beautiful scene even more. I cried on the scene even though I knew Davis was going to make it. It was just soooo heartbreaking.

Autumn
04-04-2009, 10:10 PM
It is. I love it. What's more beautiful then love stopping the unstoppable?

Nothing. Their love is powerful.



Wow. that's really neat, how you examined all of the details. That makes me love that beautiful scene even more. I cried on the scene even though I knew Davis was going to make it. It was just soooo heartbreaking.


The scene seriously gets better with each viewing! It was heartbreaking. Actually Davis was just breaking my heart throughout the whole episode. When he told her he loved her and then asked her to help him die, he said it with tears in his eyes and so much emotion. That scene was one of the most passionate scenes I've seen in a long time. I actually felt the sexual tension when he grabbed her. WOW, Just wow. I think these two are just blowing everyone out of the water. Scene stealers!!

SnowBird
04-04-2009, 11:29 PM
I don't think she has a meteor power anymore. In fact, I'm not sure she is even meteor infected. I hope they explain it in the future.

Whether Chloe has deep feelings for Davis or not, the important thing is that Davis believes it so he can control the beast.

wolverine316
04-05-2009, 05:37 AM
Did I ever mention I think it would be much more entertaining if Doomsday was just a Luthorcorp lab experiment. I can honestly give a rats ass about there connection and unfortuntly I have a feeling we will hear more about it in the next few episodes.

Full agreement. This beauty and the beast storyline is garbage.

Alania
04-05-2009, 10:45 AM
Full agreement. This beauty and the beast storyline is garbage.

I think it's more of a bad copy of Bruce Bane/Betty Ross. Poor Bruce and Betty, such a meaningful relationship having unfortunate analogies.:(

borednow
04-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Full agreement. This beauty and the beast storyline is garbage.

In what version of Beauty and the Beast was the Beast a serial killer???

Violet-Shadow
04-05-2009, 05:13 PM
In what version of Beauty and the Beast was the Beast a serial killer???

None that I know of...

Autumn
04-05-2009, 06:38 PM
In what version of Beauty and the Beast was the Beast a serial killer???

LOL. Phantom anyone?

Violet-Shadow
04-05-2009, 06:40 PM
LOL. Phantom anyone?

Phantom of the Opera? If I recall correctly, Christine didn't love Phantom.

Autumn
04-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Phantom of the Opera? If I recall correctly, Christine didn't love Phantom.

Debatable. Very debatable. And yet the Phantom (the Beast) is most certainly in love with Christine (Beauty). And yes the Phantom kills. In fact, he's much worse than Davis. Davis has no control over the murderer inside. He only kills vigilante style because otherwise the beast would emerge and kill all innocents in his path. The Phantom chooses to kill all on his lonesome.

Some other modern retellings with examples. Also in the original versions of Beauty and the Beast, the Beast was very much a beast who killed in the forest and would return with blood on him. Some more modern examples of killers:

1)Edward Scissorhands (though understandable)
2)Don't read if you don't want to be spoiled In Rebecca, Maxim killed his first wife
3) Twilight (Bella [Beauty anyone?]). Edward has killed several (who knows how many, but a lot) humans vigilante style in his past quite similar to Davis.
4) Mick from Moonlight. Another vampire (beast) who has killed several vigilante style. Several in his past and some even in his present.
5) Cole in Charmed. A half demon who kills for pleasure, but sometimes feels remorse. One of my favorite characters!!!

Anyway, that's just to name a few.

Violet-Shadow
04-05-2009, 08:19 PM
I don't know if all those examples would count as "Beauty and the Beast" stories. IMO, Twilight isn't.

Also, I never claimed that Davis doesn't love Chloe just that Chloe doesn't love Davis.

Thirdly, the Beast killed animals in the forest, not people, right? There's a vast difference between killing an animal and killing a person, IMO.

Autumn
04-05-2009, 08:31 PM
I don't know if all those examples would count as "Beauty and the Beast" stories. IMO, Twilight isn't.

Also, I never claimed that Davis doesn't love Chloe just that Chloe doesn't love Davis.

Thirdly, the Beast killed animals in the forest, not people, right? There's a vast difference between killing an animal and killing a person, IMO.

All of these stories use elements from Beauty and the Beast the same as Chloe and Davis, each in their own, unique way. Twilight surely is. Even her name is Bella (which is Italian for Beauty) and Edward is a princely name. He's the beast (a vampire) who loves a human named Bella (Beauty). There are several elements of that story that make it a modern day Beauty and the Beast tale. It's all in the themes and tropes.

Actually it is unclear who the Beast killed. He surely wasn't very humane when he first became a Beast. He's not all innocent like the Disney version would want people to believe.

And I do believe that Chloe is in love with Davis. She just hasn't said it out loud. The cage scene said all IMO.

Violet-Shadow
04-05-2009, 08:38 PM
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Well, when it comes to Chloe's feelings we're going to have agree to disagree because no amount of debating will convince me that she does. However, future episodes of SV could show Chloe's feelings changing for Davis, or, as you would believe, confirming what she already felt.

Autumn
04-05-2009, 08:52 PM
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Well, when it comes to Chloe's feelings we're going to have agree to disagree because no amount of debating will convince me that she does. However, future episodes of SV could show Chloe's feelings changing for Davis, or, as you would believe, confirming what she already felt.

Yep. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

Chloe Bloome
04-06-2009, 12:20 AM
Well it is plainly obvious that Chloe does love Davis, does that mean she does not love Jimmy? No, I'm sure she does but you can be in love with more than one person, just one is usually stronger than another, and that is what is debatable with Chloe.

And like you said Autumn, the scene where he is in the kryptonite cage really said it all, I thought she really really cared about him until then, but no, she does love him, that's the sad thing about it all.

borednow
04-06-2009, 08:49 AM
LOL. Phantom anyone?

Okay you want to call them Phantom of the Opera that's fine but I never saw that as B&tB really.


1)Edward Scissorhands (though understandable)
2)Don't read if you don't want to be spoiled In Rebecca, Maxim killed his first wife
3) Twilight (Bella [Beauty anyone?]). Edward has killed several (who knows how many, but a lot) humans vigilante style in his past quite similar to Davis.
4) Mick from Moonlight. Another vampire (beast) who has killed several vigilante style. Several in his past and some even in his present.
5) Cole in Charmed. A half demon who kills for pleasure, but sometimes feels remorse. One of my favorite characters!!!

Are those B&tB stories???
Is Angel and Buffy a B&tB story too? How about Dracula? :lol: sorry I think you are defining B&tB a little too loosely. B&tB isn't a catch all for someone loving someone who isn't exactly human.

Autumn
04-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Okay you want to call them Phantom of the Opera that's fine but I never saw that as B&tB really.

Yes, Phantom of the Opera is a beauty and the beast tale. I thought that one was obvious.




Are those B&tB stories???
Is Angel and Buffy a B&tB story too? How about Dracula? :lol: sorry I think you are defining B&tB a little too loosely. B&tB isn't a catch all for someone loving someone who isn't exactly human.



Yes, I am talking about themes. They all use elements of the BatB storyline. None of them are meant to be the exact story. Heck the cartoon isn't even the real tale. It is just so loose. I'm talking about literary tropes. These are all BatB tales when it comes right down to it, if you take a closer look you might start to notice the similarities. Even Jane Eyre is a BatB tale that is easy to see once you study it. I don't know if Angel and Buffy apply. I wouldn't call Dracula a BatB tale when it comes to the book, but the Coppola film? Sure. You can laugh all you want, but these tales really are beauty and the beast, just told in their own unique way. Phantom is of course the most obvious.

The Beauty and the Beast tale has been told in several ways since the second century. Several modern works as The Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Phantom of the Opera, and King Kong do rely to some extent on the beauty-beast theme. It is not about following the most famous of the 18th century tale and certainly not the cartoon.

Beauty and the Beast is an archetype, not one specific tale.

Tinyeppy
04-07-2009, 06:48 AM
I have to agree that Chole loves Davis.
I also believe she loves Jimmy but her bond with Davis is stronger.
I saw the break up of Chimmy b/c I felt deep down she loved Davis more then Jimmy.

I have to be honest I like this couple too. I see how much Davis love Chole & Chole trying to do the good thing b/c she does love him too but also her struggle to protect Clark.

topping82
04-07-2009, 07:34 AM
Their feelings for each other are definitely helping keep the monster at bay. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to their connection as well beyond their feelings.

It's clear Davis loves Chloe, and that Chloe has feelings for Davis. I think Chloe's feelings will become clearer in Beast.

And yes, Chloe and Davis very much are a Beauty and the Beast tale, and the SV writers are going beyond the themes and actually using some exact moments from different versions of the fairy tale (first written down in the 18th century).

chlo-el
04-07-2009, 01:39 PM
Their feelings for each other are definitely helping keep the monster at bay. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to their connection as well beyond their feelings.

It's clear Davis loves Chloe, and that Chloe has feelings for Davis. I think Chloe's feelings will become clearer in Beast.

And yes, Chloe and Davis very much are a Beauty and the Beast tale, and the SV writers are going beyond the themes and actually using some exact moments from different versions of the fairy tale (first written down in the 18th century).

They really are. THey have made refences in dialogue talking about the "Bride of Frakenstien" and repeatedively talking aobut peopel with hte torches and pitch forks.

Not to mention the blantant poster behind Chloe at the end of "Eternal" of "Bronte's Love Story".

I'm not sure if it was Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights but either one does have BaTB themes. Of people seeing he man as something dark and the woman loving him despite all of that. I would rather them be referring to Jane Eyre because the end they ended up together and the "monster" seemed to get redemption.

Anyway I think their connection is soooo a love connection. I really think that Chloe makes Davis feel human so that is what keeps the Beast at bay. I think the more human he feels the more he can stay in his human form.

Maria1023
04-27-2009, 10:37 PM
I am completely onboard with the whole Davis and Chloe connection and for those of you using the argument that she is married. Rewatch the travesty that is "Stilletto" and Chloe, herself mentions her divorce...
Anyway, I am totally into Smallville for the Chlavis love. Smallville was getting tired to me and the Doomsday angle is what drew me back to the show. Chlavis is what keeps me watching... There is definitely a love connection between them.