View Full Version : Chlavis = Lexana? And do you support Chlavis after this episode?
JennyMoon
04-02-2009, 07:12 PM
Now more than ever I see the parallels between Chlavis and Lexana only this episode highlighted (especially towards the end) the negative side of these relationships. Initially Lana *was* attracted to Lex but then slowly she saw who he really was and wanted to run away but only stayed with him to protect Clark. She ended up having to marry the man even though at that point she basically loathed him. Now with Chloe she too was initially attracted to Davis and ever grew to care for him (her words) but then as she has learned who he really is now she seems like all she wants to do is run away. But similar to Lana, she can't because she feels she has to protect Clark from Davis. So when she locked the door at the end, I felt the same sadness that I felt when Lana got married to Lex and you saw her leaving a newlywed in the limo with Lex. She looked like a caged animal and now Chloe is caged too.
Moreover, Chlavis had some appeal at the beginning but now it's painfully apparent that while Davis is in love with Chloe (or thinks he is) she is not in love with him. Chloe cares for him, but does not love him, and her caring is not even above what she feels for Clark. So Chloe does not want to be with Davis right now and she's basically not there out of her own free will. Am I the only one who has a big problem with that? I hated the Lexana storyline because it was non-consensual (marriage and everything else that happened within the marriage) and now the same is going to happen with Chlavis.
So is Chlavis like Lexana in this aspect and do you support Chlavis right now. If so, why and if not, why?
Supsfan
04-02-2009, 07:13 PM
The only way it's like Lexana is it's a storyline I rather not see play out on my TV screen, beyond that it vastly different
AndiGirl
04-02-2009, 07:14 PM
I dont think they are similar at all....and yep, I support Chlavis at this point. :)
aceofclubs
04-02-2009, 07:15 PM
Chlavis is just to messed up for me.
ZODisGOD
04-02-2009, 07:16 PM
Do you know what people remember about the greatest star-crossed romances? Not how the lovers met, but the way the relationship tragically ended. I can't wait to see 8x22 Doomsday.
Alexander III
04-02-2009, 07:17 PM
I think Chloe deserves to be single and be lonely for the rest of her life, j/k. Not w/ Davis..ew. c'mon, eww man.
samanthalyn720
04-02-2009, 07:17 PM
I don't really think they are alike because Lex had control over the evil things he did, Davis doesn't. And I also wouldn't say it's obvious Chloe isn't in love with Davis... it didn't look that way to me!
AgentChaos
04-02-2009, 07:19 PM
Chlavis is not Lexana. It's 1000 times more interesting than that failed relationship.
Supsfan
04-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Chlavis is not Lexana. It's 1000 times more interesting than that failed relationship.
While I agree with you that it's more interesting, 1000 times a piece of crap is not worth much :)
pleasenoclois
04-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Luv me some Chlavis!
kal-el_Girl
04-02-2009, 07:25 PM
I cannot wait to see what happens next, chloe's got to have a hidden agenda she's not going to be involved in any romantic/sexual way w/ davis NO WAY, unless she's sacrificing herself for the love of clark, who knows?? I hate spoilers so I'm just guessing here..
Storm45
04-02-2009, 07:25 PM
Chlavis is not Lexana. It's 1000 times more interesting than that failed relationship.
Everything in Smallville is more interesting than Lexana.
Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 08:18 PM
I see the similarities. Clark the good guy loses the girl he loves to his worse enemy Lex. Jimmy the good guy loses the girl he loves to uh Clark's other worse enemy Davis. Yes this is definitely Lexanna 2.0.
doodie8808
04-02-2009, 08:21 PM
Everything in Smallville is more interesting than Lexana.
I TOTALLY AGREE CHLOE IS NOT MY CUP OF TEA BUT HER SPEECHES ALONE ARE BETTER THAN ANYTHING LEXANNA!:rolleyes:
AgentChaos
04-02-2009, 08:25 PM
I see the similarities. Clark the good guy loses the girl he loves to his worse enemy Lex. Jimmy the good guy loses the girl he loves to uh Clark's other worse enemy Davis. Yes this is definitely Lexanna 2.0.
Jimmy is not a good guy.
Jack-El49
04-02-2009, 08:36 PM
While I agree with you that it's more interesting, 1000 times a piece of crap is not worth much :)
And did I read, "That failed relationship"? as though this one will last happily ever after??? :rotfl:
Night_Hawk90
04-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Jimmy is not a good guy.
care to explain how jimmy is a bad guy? does he bury bodies in a field and justify it by saying they were bad guys that were being killed.
Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 08:57 PM
What's wrong with Lexanna? I didn't think they were that bad. I mean Lex wasn't always a jerk and was acturally trying to be a good boyfriend to Lana.
Kschreck
04-02-2009, 09:04 PM
Yeah, I am a bit disappointed in Chloe backing this guy up even to the point of practically dating him. She says she is doing it to protect Clark but come on, Chloe knows she can't stay locked up in a basement for the rest of her life and that Doomsday will be unleashed eventually anyways. The writers are certainly doing a number on Chloe.
Storm45
04-02-2009, 09:24 PM
What's wrong with Lexanna? I didn't think they were that bad. I mean Lex wasn't always a jerk and was acturally trying to be a good boyfriend to Lana.
He had to be a good boyfriend. All those effort to get back at Clark had to lead to some payoff. He went up to hire someone to break Lana's relationship with Clark so he could be with her forever. Wonderful. Chilling villainy.
Then the poor guy had to make a lame machination involving a fake baby. Just so Lana could marry him and be with him forever. Best. Patheric. Boyfriend. Ever.
IMO, Lexana thrown Lex Luthor's name into the mud.
jpfort1957
04-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Chlavis is just to messed up for me.
Me too!!!!!!!!
Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 10:16 PM
He had to be a good boyfriend. All those effort to get back at Clark had to lead to some payoff. He went up to hire someone to break Lana's relationship with Clark so he could be with her forever. Wonderful. Chilling villainy.
Then the poor guy had to make a lame machination involving a fake baby. Just so Lana could marry him and be with him forever. Best. Patheric. Boyfriend. Ever.
IMO, Lexana thrown Lex Luthor's name into the mud.
Oh I guess I must of missed that. I didn't really see all the episodes. Well he is a villain.:lol:
Kschreck
04-02-2009, 10:20 PM
I will never ever support Chlavis. Chloe to me was always a helping moral hand for Clark and any of her other friends and what not.
Davis was a man with a dark passion. He is evil beyond belief and while it's not completely his fault, there is no relationship that could come from a moral person and a serial killer.
Chloe and Davis do not make a cute couple and the mere thought of it is morbid as well as a huge blow to Chloe's character. Chloe needs to escape and never communicate with Davis Bloome ever again.
Eeyore840
04-02-2009, 10:21 PM
Chlavis is not Lexana. It's 1000 times more interesting than that failed relationship.
I completely agree! And yes, I still support them. ;)
topping82
04-02-2009, 10:35 PM
I will never ever support Chlavis. Chloe to me was always a helping moral hand for Clark and any of her other friends and what not.
Davis was a man with a dark passion. He is evil beyond belief and while it's not completely his fault, there is no relationship that could come from a moral person and a serial killer.
Chloe and Davis do not make a cute couple and the mere thought of it is morbid as well as a huge blow to Chloe's character. Chloe needs to escape and never communicate with Davis Bloome ever again.
How can someone be evil when it is not their choosing or fault? The actor himself (Sam Witwer) said that Davis is not evil. I'm on the actor's side.
VagrantDream
04-02-2009, 11:13 PM
As a Chloe fan, I loved this episode.
I do not see Chlavis as Lexana because despite the parallels, the characters/their connections are completely different.
I can see where Chlavis is coming from, a clear emotion on both sides, and Davis wants to stop the darkness in him at the cost of his own life.
chlo-el
04-02-2009, 11:18 PM
I am actually one of the few who supported Lexana. I think Lex actually gave her more respect for a long time before Clark did. She could really talk to Lex unlike Clark. And during hard times she went to Lex for advice when Clark couldn't be there for her. And Lana saw that there was more to him then just the villian that everyone else saw.
So in those ways Chlavis issimilar to Lexana. But Lex did turn evil by his own free will and Davis didn't so that does make them very different. And Lana seemed to be his weakness in the end and it looks like Chloe is Davis' strength.
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How can someone be evil when it is not their choosing or fault? The actor himself (Sam Witwer) said that Davis is not evil. I'm on the actor's side.
Same here. And even Clark called Davis a martyr. Davis sacraficed himself to save others that is a definition of a hero.
IHeartClois
04-02-2009, 11:20 PM
Lexana was creepy, Lana was just being a ***** to Clark by getting with Lex, I never saw a connection between them really, Lana flirted with everyone...including her horses.
Chlavis is something else. I like it but its definately not ending well.
borednow
04-02-2009, 11:21 PM
No and No.
Chlavis is officially my lest favorite pairing on this show... At lest Lexana made me really like Lana for a few minutes every now and then... Chlavis makes Chloe look like an unfaithful idiot and Davis... he has become completely unsympathetic in my eye...
Sports72Xtrm
04-02-2009, 11:24 PM
Chlavis is definitely a little creepy. I mean she's basically forced to be with him just so he doesn't turn into a monster and kill everyone. And if Chloe likes that well it's sort of that syndrome you get when you fall in love with your kidnapper. Definitely not very healthy.
Eeyore840
04-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Chlavis is definitely a little creepy. I mean she's basically forced to be with him just so he doesn't turn into a monster and kill everyone. And if Chloe likes that well it's sort of that syndrome you get when you fall in love with your kidnapper. Definitely not very healthy.
Maybe not healthy, but it's hot as hell! :p SW and AM together are made of win!
koryaunka
04-03-2009, 12:07 AM
im definatly chimmy shipper, but i don't have a prob with chlavis i guess. I do see where it kindof echos it. Lionel said he would kill clark if Lana didn't marry Lex, then Davis says he could accidenetally kill Clark if Chloe dosen't stay with him, both gurls are/were in those relationships to protect clark. Its all about Clark haha
zHeN_zHeN
04-03-2009, 12:15 AM
YES! It's "Beauty and the Beast" on crack, and I love it! :D
ginnyfan
04-03-2009, 12:44 AM
I can't ever fully support Chloe/Davis because I don't want Chloe to be with a murdering monster, however reluctant. That said I can appreciate Davis' human side. I can tell that he really cares for her. He cooks for her and is kind and they bonded over social service.
There is more balance in the Chloe/Davis relationship than there was in the Lana/Lex relationship. I felt that Lana was swept into Lex's world. She went to live in his house and basically her whole life changed when she moved in with Lex. Chloe has pretty much maintained her independence. She has a job that has nothing to do with Davis. Davis doesn't dictate her behavior really. He needs her a lot more than Lex needed Lana.
Lex kind of wanted to possess Lana... I think he loved her too but... not in the way Davis does. The relationships are very different IMO. Chloe/Davis/Doomsday is superficially like Lana/Lex/Zod. But... not really when you look at the deeper characteristics.
borednow
04-03-2009, 01:59 AM
Maybe not healthy, but it's hot as hell! :p SW and AM together are made of win!
Not feeling it...:\
Sports72Xtrm
04-03-2009, 02:04 AM
Maybe not healthy, but it's hot as hell! :p SW and AM together are made of win!
What ever makes you guys happy. I actually liked Lexana. It's kind of a guilty pleasure but I guess it's because I never really rooted for Clana in the long run. Lexmas actually made me like the couple.
darkone
04-03-2009, 03:38 AM
Lex kind of wanted to possess Lana... I think he loved her too but... not in the way Davis does. The relationships are very different IMO. Chloe/Davis/Doomsday is superficially like Lana/Lex/Zod. But... not really when you look at the deeper characteristics.
Agreed. Also, Lex had a long relationship with Lana before it changed in S5. As much as I hate it but the overall plot was written around it. Can't say that about Chloe/Davis. That's just a story pulled in S8 to drag out the series.
Timester
04-03-2009, 03:41 AM
I can't believe that I will defend Lexana...
In Lexana, there was trust and no secrets in the beginning and Lana didn't ditch Clark because of Lex.
In Chlavis, we all know the secrets that Davis hide and what Chloe did to Jimmy.
Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 04:44 AM
Chloe sure must feel dumb now knowing that Jimmy was right all along im so glad he ditched that heyride
Lexana was hot.. Chalvis not so much.
workshyslacker
04-03-2009, 04:49 AM
No, I don't support it. Its on a level of wrong even above Lexana.
Intriguing but dysfunctional.
Touching but going nowhere.
Chloe knows Davis is a killer before she made her choice (at the end of the episode). Lana thought Lex was, initially, a good guy. Gosh, did I just support Lana? :eek:
Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 04:53 AM
No, I don't support it. Its on a level of wrong even above Lexana.
Intriguing but dysfunctional.
Touching but going nowhere.
Chloe knows Davis is a killer before she made her choice (at the end of the episode). Lana thought Lex was, initially, a good guy. Gosh, did I just support Lana? :eek:
.... wow... i think you did.
Ouch.:rolleyes:
Autumn
04-03-2009, 08:23 AM
I support it and it is nothing like Lexana though I loved that too before they ruined it. Go Chlavis! Best thing about Smallville!!!!
Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 08:25 AM
Go Chlavis! Best thing about Smallville!!!!
agreed! especially the way its going to turn out! it's going to be pure bliss !!!!!!!
luthorian
04-03-2009, 08:30 AM
Chlavis is the hottest thing ever on Smallville!
Lexana was ok at first but it wasn't written very well towards the end.
Autumn
04-03-2009, 08:36 AM
Chlavis is the hottest thing ever on Smallville!
Lexana was ok at first but it wasn't written very well towards the end.
Definitely the hottest!!! I loved Lexana from season one though when he bit into the apple. I'm still peeved on how they ruined it with that hideous hormone baby plotline. Shudders.
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agreed! especially the way its going to turn out! it's going to be pure bliss !!!!!!!
Um, okay, whatever. :rolleyes:
Smallville Vamp
04-03-2009, 09:00 AM
I didn't BEFORE but now I really do support Chlavis, BIG TIME. I can hardly wait to see how everything turns out in the end!
Autumn
04-03-2009, 09:03 AM
I didn't BEFORE but now I really do support Chlavis, BIG TIME. I can hardly wait to see how everything turns out in the end!
Yay! New convert! They really are addicting. :) I'm rooting for Davis-monster free with Chloe happy ending in the end!!
Iluvgreen
04-03-2009, 10:32 AM
to me personally it's like Clana! And I HATE it!
Eeyore840
04-03-2009, 11:08 AM
What ever makes you guys happy. I actually liked Lexana. It's kind of a guilty pleasure but I guess it's because I never really rooted for Clana in the long run. Lexmas actually made me like the couple.
I liked Lexanna. I thought that pairing actually made Lana more interesting.
Minela
04-03-2009, 12:38 PM
No. Lexana was hotter and still had some kind of potential. Chlavis is doomed. I still like them, they sizzle.
Violet-Shadow
04-03-2009, 12:40 PM
Parallels Lexana in some ways, with the whole "protecting Clark" thing. Chloe's the more honorable of the two women. But I don't support Chlavis. Never have, never will. It just makes me feel sick...for Chloe. In that last scene, she did not look happy. IMO she's staying with him out of her love for Clark, who is her best friend.
Eeyore840
04-03-2009, 04:07 PM
Parallels Lexana in some ways, with the whole "protecting Clark" thing. Chloe's the more honorable of the two women. But I don't support Chlavis. Never have, never will. It just makes me feel sick...for Chloe. In that last scene, she did not look happy. IMO she's staying with him out of her love for Clark, who is her best friend.
To me, I think Chloe staying with Davis because she loves her BFF Clark is kind of sick. I would only do something like that for a man with whom I was romantically involved or married to. JMHO.
borednow
04-03-2009, 04:09 PM
Lexana was hot.. Chalvis not so much.
With you there.
I can't believe that I will defend Lexana...
In Lexana, there was trust and no secrets in the beginning and Lana didn't ditch Clark because of Lex.
In Chlavis, we all know the secrets that Davis hide and what Chloe did to Jimmy.
Exactly. Chlavis makes me feel ill...
Violet-Shadow
04-03-2009, 04:13 PM
To me, I think Chloe staying with Davis because she loves her BFF Clark is kind of sick. I would only do something like that for a man with whom I was romantically involved or married to. JMHO.
She's doing it for Clark and everyone else she loves. I might, possibly (can't know for sure since I have never been in and probably never will be in a situation like that), do it for my best friend, my mom, my dad, my brother... I don't think it could be considered sick but, in a way, self sacrificial.
Jaderoyale
04-03-2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah, I am a bit disappointed in Chloe backing this guy up even to the point of practically dating him. She says she is doing it to protect Clark but come on, Chloe knows she can't stay locked up in a basement for the rest of her life and that Doomsday will be unleashed eventually anyways. The writers are certainly doing a number on Chloe.
Which is why Lana married Lex (the bolded part)
Peh.
I was slightly partial to the Chlavis at the beginning. But now i'm not.
marcella
04-03-2009, 06:00 PM
I don't support Chlavis
Autumn
04-03-2009, 06:01 PM
I support Chlavis! Chlavis for the win!!!!
luvinChlark
04-03-2009, 06:18 PM
It's not like Lexana and I support Chlavis.
Their chemistry is undeniably amazing. ;) I can't wait for more scenes. :D
Davis Bloome
04-03-2009, 06:35 PM
I support chlavis, certainly one if not the best relationships ever. Lexana... Wasn't really a fan of that, was really weird and just felt uncomfortable. I thought it was also unrealistic how Lana could fall for Lex.
Minamostaza
04-06-2009, 07:48 AM
Chlavis is no Lexana 2, I don't even liked Lexana at all, I didn't buyt th whole Lexana love. In my opinion Chlavis is much interesting to see, it's not boring, and it's real love, but, like I said it's just what I think.
Chlavis is not Lexana, and I support them.
Chloe Bloome
04-06-2009, 08:07 AM
Yeah I never liked Lexana either. Clavis is the best.
smallvillefreak24
04-06-2009, 08:10 AM
i can't help supporting chlavis even tho it is so very wrong
Kaleb
04-06-2009, 04:25 PM
Lexana was way better. Chlavis is so boring and forced.
Jawth
04-06-2009, 04:48 PM
Oops. Accididently voted for the wrong choice. DO NOT Support it.
abbaspice1
04-06-2009, 04:59 PM
I loved Lexana when it first started. In fact, I enjoyed it all EXCEPT the whole baby-mama's drama crap (fake pregnancy).
However, I cannot support Chlavis. Chloe knows Lana's story, she knows that Davis ultimate goal is to destroy Clark and probably the rest of the world. She knows there is a seriously dangerous monster lurking in Davis. She knows that Jimmy was telling the truth. And yet, she is going to keep Davis hidden. She is going to stand by his side.
Can't support this. It makes Chloe look stupid at best, evil at worst.
Kaleb
04-06-2009, 08:14 PM
I loved Lexana when it first started. In fact, I enjoyed it all EXCEPT the whole baby-mama's drama crap (fake pregnancy).
Tell me about it. The whole baby arc was incredibly lame. Ah Smallville has major hits and major misses.
I will agree with Kaleb on the fact that it does feel a little like Chlavis is being forced on us. Unless we're assuming there is a lot of bonding going on "offscreen" why are they suddenly in love with each other? Or why are their feelings for each other so strong, rather.
Maybe I missed it, but I see very little build up or progression towards this new coupling. There is chemistry, but that has more to do with the actors in my opinion than it does to the characters.
It just seems really random to me. It's not unappealing and I'm sure I'd personally be more welcoming to the idea of the pair if they allowed a little more time to let us decide if we wanted to warm up to the idea. Or not.
topping82
04-07-2009, 07:50 AM
Chlavis is not forced at all. They've been building them up all season, and there is this brilliant organic chemistry between the two.
I think there are other couples on Smallville who are much more forced.
From the beginning, they've played up Chloe and Davis having a really deep connection.
Best couple on Smallville....EVER.
rebecavaldez
04-07-2009, 06:00 PM
This isn't at all like Lexana. Chloe does not want Clark.
Reporter
04-08-2009, 09:07 AM
This isn't at all like Lexana. Chloe does not want Clark.
I think the point is that Chloe is staying with a monster to protect Clark.
In that regard, I do find it similar. And I'm enjoying the storyline, but I don't support Chlavis as they are now.
actaeon
04-08-2009, 10:22 AM
I don't think it's like Lexana.
I think the Chloe/Davis thing is interesting, and a little disturbing. I don't think it will end well. It is... Doomed! :D
What's disturbing and kind of sick is the obvious "violent boyfriend" parallel. It's like Chloe is one of those "smart women who make foolish choices" girls. She's attracted to Davis, maybe even halfway in love with him. Why, on God's green earth?!
Davis is moody, dark, violent, liable to lose control and do terrible things. Yet Chloe somehow hopes that her love can redeem him. This is an old sorry tale, and I thought Chloe was smarter than this. She feels she "must" stay with him, whatever the personal risk, that she must sacrifice herself. Since when does Chloe have so little self esteem? So little common sense?
Davis is bad news. He's a liar, and yet she trusts him. He tried to drive a wedge between her and her husband, and he succeeded. He stalks her, he wants to possess her, and still she goes along with his little game. She continues to believe him and stick by him.
LuthorKent90
04-08-2009, 03:39 PM
I loved Lexana when it first started. In fact, I enjoyed it all EXCEPT the whole baby-mama's drama crap (fake pregnancy).
However, I cannot support Chlavis. Chloe knows Lana's story, she knows that Davis ultimate goal is to destroy Clark and probably the rest of the world. She knows there is a seriously dangerous monster lurking in Davis. She knows that Jimmy was telling the truth. And yet, she is going to keep Davis hidden. She is going to stand by his side.
Can't support this. It makes Chloe look stupid at best, evil at worst.
Totally agree.
Except I hated Lexana from the get go.:lol:
SnowBird
04-08-2009, 05:34 PM
I can't support Chlavis and to me it is worse than Lexana...Lex did love Lana even if it was a forced marriage. I don't think he would have killed her at the time Lana left Lex...Even though Davis says he loves Chloe, I am afraid for her life at the hands of Davis or Doomsday.
Reporter
04-09-2009, 04:46 AM
She continues to believe him and stick by him.
She's obviously believing him when he says that he wont kill Clark if she stays, but I don't see it as her being there willingly and sticking by him. I think she has feelings for Davis, but at this point I don't think they play any role in her staying with him. It's basically a sacrifice for Clark and the world, IMO. And yes, I know that it's not a good long term solution, but maybe it's not supposed to be.
Kevin24
04-10-2009, 11:54 AM
:lol: I have never thought of it this way before but I agree both relationships are creepy and I really wish they never happened:p
Two good girls falling for evil murderers.....how romantic...:lol:
Both times I was like...what the hell do they see in the other person?:\
I don't support either relationship and Chloe is borderline crazy if she thinks she can stop him...TALK ABOUT BEING NAIVE!:rotfl:
Minamostaza
04-11-2009, 12:09 PM
Again I support Chlavis, and I didn't like Lexana at all, I didn't even care they were together.
snookie16
04-11-2009, 12:48 PM
I can't support Chlavis and to me it is worse than Lexana...Lex did love Lana even if it was a forced marriage. I don't think he would have killed her at the time Lana left Lex...Even though Davis says he loves Chloe, I am afraid for her life at the hands of Davis or Doomsday.
I agree with this statement.
I see the paralells between Lexana and Chlavis. But there is also a number of differences.
Parallels are that Lex loves Lana and Davis loves Chloe. There is a dark connection between the two couples. Lex and Davis are misguided guys they mean to do good or evil but go about it the in a way they this is right even though it morally wrong.
Differences are Lex loves Lana and Lana admitted she loved Lex. Davis loves Chloe, but Chloe told him that she thought she cared about him, but instantly jumped to the defense of Clark in both timlines. There are many others but that is the big one.
Autumn
04-18-2009, 11:07 AM
I loved Lexana and I love Chlavis but I don't think they're much alike at all.
Minamostaza
04-20-2009, 06:49 AM
Nope, they aren't alike at all.
gardenia
04-20-2009, 08:28 PM
No on both accounts.
jpfort1957
04-22-2009, 05:37 PM
No and NO!!!!!
SupermanRox
05-14-2009, 07:24 AM
No I don't support Chlavis after last week's episode. It is apparent that we are supposed to be believe that Chloe was with Davis against her will and that she didn't really want to be with him.
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