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Alexander III
04-02-2009, 07:04 PM
Clark, you have NO IDEA :lol::rotfl:
He'll for sure regret saying this when he faces doomy in the future. :eek:

ClarkyBoy14
04-02-2009, 07:07 PM
If only you would look on Wikipedia, Clark. ;)

O'Neill
04-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Theres no way it was going to end that easy.

Deana
04-02-2009, 07:08 PM
Doomsday after watching that scene: Yes Clark deserves to die and I hope he burns in Hell! :rotfl:

kp1984
04-02-2009, 07:13 PM
I knew doomsday would be back. There not going to end it that easy. besides the last epoisde said Doomsday. Did'nt expect him to show up at the end of the epoisde though

'Tonio09
04-02-2009, 07:14 PM
"Hmph. Just you wait Clark."

myankskent
04-02-2009, 07:21 PM
You know, sometimes I feel like it's pointless to watch every episode of this series because the writers certainly don't remember what they write. How can Clark so easily assume that Davis is dead when he learned from Jor-El that Doomsday could not be killed? Did he really think that kryptonite was going to do the trick? Even Davis looked like a moron in this episode because he actually thought that kryptonite was going to kill him after he survived everything else and was stronger as a result of it.

Amelie
04-02-2009, 07:25 PM
Frankly it made both Clark and Chloe seem a little naive. I mean this is Krypton's ultimate destroyer and they both thought that a bath in kryptonite would kill him? Really? I mean, come on!

SGuthrie27
04-02-2009, 07:27 PM
I put the first option, but I doubt it'll be the true "NEAR future." More like, after he dons a cape and tights and becomes more than the Red-Blue Blur.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

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P.s. 800 posts -- woo-hoo!

NinaDavis
04-02-2009, 07:39 PM
If only you would look on Wikipedia, Clark. ;)
:rotfl: Clark is stupid!

Superhog
04-02-2009, 07:58 PM
Reminds me of my reaction to most of the fights that should be epic on Smallville. except for Combat. That fight is awesome.

kal-el_Girl
04-02-2009, 08:01 PM
I don't blame clark, how the heck is he supposed to know what the future awaits for him? he's superman NOT clairvoyant!!!

Supeman
04-02-2009, 08:05 PM
Mine was: And it probly will end up not being one either. (refering to the let down we will all feel at the end of Doomsday.)

Karafan1
04-02-2009, 08:18 PM
I reacted to that by saying "Just wait 'til May 14th"

ClubXerxes
04-02-2009, 08:20 PM
My reaction?


"Famous last words":lol:

bobby1984
04-02-2009, 08:28 PM
clark just figured they were just alike and it would kill davis to, not being naive and they watch him die, but the second clark said he didnt put up much of a fight i know a min later they would be showing davs alive, and i cant wait for their battle, that is gonna be so cool and hope they really do it justice when it does happenes

Skaterpen357
04-02-2009, 08:31 PM
I don't think that was the point of the line...I think Clark was just lamenting the way Chloe killed Davis. It's true; it wasn't much of a fight...and I think Clark was just frustrated the man he would have called "brother" was, as it were, put down like a rabid animal.

Clark didn't want Davis to die, and ignoring the fact that Davis didn't die right then, Clark was expressing regret over the way things turned out for a sympathetic character, not gloating over the defeat of a villain.

Steve-El
04-02-2009, 08:41 PM
Battle royale!!!

Mortal Kombaaaaaat!!!

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 08:45 PM
Jor-El specifically told him in Abyss that the destroyer has the ability to evolve from any attack. So I thought that was something very dumb coming from Clark's mouth. He should have a better memory.

Skaterpen357
04-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Eh, to be fair, Davis had first-hand experience with the whole evolution thing, and he still thought Kryptonite would work--maybe Clark thought Davis knew something Jor-El didn't (how does the FOS know about a last-second Zod creation, anyway?). Not to mention, Davis is Kryptonian, and Kryptonite did seem to hurt him pretty badly as a child, so maybe he assumed Kryptonite was an exception or something.

devilicus rebel
04-02-2009, 08:59 PM
I was thinking it better not be that way come May 14th.

MrZeppo
04-02-2009, 09:08 PM
I didn't vote for any of the choices because I didn't really agree with any.

It's note fair to call Clark a BDA on this one because he doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. Yes, Jor-El told Clark that Doomsday could evolve beyond any attack. But if I was Clark I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, even if Davis dies he will come back immune to what killed him." I would think that "While I am attacking him, he will get stronger."

Clark doesn't know the "evolution" Jor-El spoke about involves Davis/Doomsday dying and being reborn. Even Chloe was surprised by that knowledge by the end. When the Kryptonite killed Davis and he didn't evolve beyond the attack right away, I think Clark assumed that Davis was dead.

It's really a situation where we the viewers obviously know better, but Clark doesn't know, he doesn't have ALL the facts. So it's really easy for us to say Clark is a BDA. But he doesn't know that Davis is reborn after every death, impervious to whatever killed him last time. So I can't blame him for thinking it's all over with because Davis looked like he died.

clois-destiny-forever
04-02-2009, 09:10 PM
Weird to see Clark being cocky, that's what I think.

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 09:11 PM
I didn't vote for any of the choices because I didn't really agree with any.

It's note fair to call Clark a BDA on this one because he doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. Yes, Jor-El told Clark that Doomsday could evolve beyond any attack. But if I was Clark I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, even if Davis dies he will come back immune to what killed him." I would think that "While I am attacking him, he will get stronger."

Clark doesn't know the "evolution" Jor-El spoke about involves Davis/Doomsday dying and being reborn. Even Chloe was surprised by that knowledge by the end. When the Kryptonite killed Davis and he didn't evolve beyond the attack right away, I think Clark assumed that Davis was dead.

It's really a situation where we the viewers obviously know better, but Clark doesn't know, he doesn't have ALL the facts. So it's really easy for us to say Clark is a BDA. But he doesn't know that Davis is reborn after every death, impervious to whatever killed him last time. So I can't blame him for thinking it's all over with because Davis looked like he died.

I don't think he was a BDA, but I think he should have mentioned it before Chloe flipped the switch.

haydenclaireheroes
04-02-2009, 09:18 PM
my idea for this quote is you have no idea what is ahead of you.

MrZeppo
04-02-2009, 09:24 PM
I don't think he was a BDA, but I think he should have mentioned it before Chloe flipped the switch.

That Doomsday can "evolve" beyond almost any attack? Because Clark certainly doesn't know Doomsday can come back from the dead, stronger than before.

I think Clark was more concerned with stopping Chloe, saving Davis, and feeling a healthy bit of guilt because his own fate could have very easily gone the other way in his eyes. He ran in stopped Chloe, and very quickly got enthralled in his discussion with Davis. I don't think his frame of thought was about Davis being able to evolve beyond Kryptonite. And I think for all Clark knew, Kryptonite may very well be able to kill Doomsday as he is Kryptonian.

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 09:27 PM
Well, I guess Jor-El could have put that in a different way. I guess you're saying that Clark took it as Jor-El meaning that if attacked but not killed with something, he would no longer be able to be hurt by the thing that attacked him. I could believe that.

yomama
04-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Ah, Clark. I look forward to your battle with Doomy when you can look himin the eye and say in the immortal words of the Divine Lois Lane:

"Bring it, b****."

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 09:45 PM
Ah, Clark. I look forward to your battle with Doomy when you can look himin the eye and say in the immortal words of the Divine Lois Lane:

"Bring it, b****."

Ahh, but you forget...Clark will be Kryptonian swiss cheese before completing that line.

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I wonder how far he would get in saying that line?

Br.... Or just b...

Clark will be like that Black Knight in Monty Python. Losing his limbs & still trash talking.

jayyjayy
04-02-2009, 09:51 PM
It could've been a line to foreshadow the distant future, but i doubt it. I get the feeling that Smallville is going to do their own version of Superman VS Doomsday and the death of Superman. Of course, it won't be costumed Superman and it won't be anything like the comic. It'll be some battle in the corn field where they kill each other and the cliffhanger for this season will be CK is dead, until Season 9.

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 09:53 PM
It could've been a line to foreshadow the distant future, but i doubt it. I get the feeling that Smallville is going to do their own version of Superman VS Doomsday and the death of Superman. Of course, it won't be costumed Superman and it won't be anything like the comic. It'll be some battle in the corn field where they kill each other and the cliffhanger for this season will be CK is dead, until Season 9.

Will it be CK dead or shown lying without the viewers knowing he's alive or dead?

yomama
04-02-2009, 09:56 PM
I wonder how far he would get in saying that line?

Br.... Or just b...

Clark will be like that Black Knight in Monty Python. Losing his limbs & still trash talking.

:rotfl:

Clark (in the style of Muhammad Ali): "Doomsday...I'm gonna hit you so hard...your grandchildren are gonna feel it."

No, you're right. Swiss Cheese.

jpfort1957
04-02-2009, 09:58 PM
In Clark's defense.........A Kryptonite shower should kill anyone from Krypton!!!!!!!! Nobody on Smallville knows how DD was made!!!!!!! The cameras show what actually happened the day of the meteor shower. The way Tess tells the story and the way she and Clark picture it.............is that Clark and Davis rode together in the same ship.

xrayvision
04-02-2009, 09:58 PM
Doomsday will be like Mike Tyson & will threaten to eat Clark's children. Better wear headgear Clark. Doomy likes to bite them ears.

Dyanara
04-02-2009, 10:25 PM
My initial thoughts where "Clark your still an idiot" Now Im wondering why he still doesnt listen to his daddy.

Sunny8
04-02-2009, 10:59 PM
I knew when Clark said this that Davis was not dead even if Chloe tried to kill him. I don't think Clark was being cocky, though. I just think Clark just doesn't know the true nature of Davis yet.

IHeartClois
04-02-2009, 11:02 PM
I dont think he was being cocky, he just didnt know any better and i guess was surprised to an extent that this was it.

ClarkChloefan82
04-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Clark wasn't trying to sound cocky about the fact that Davis wasn't much of a fight. This is the perfect setup for the HUGE BATTLE at the end of the season.

Lilah
04-02-2009, 11:28 PM
Doomsday may be the ultimate destroyer but Clark Kent is the ultimate moron after tonight!

chlo-el
04-02-2009, 11:33 PM
I loved when Clark said this, it showed his greatness he seemed to show a love for this guy who he always seemed to loath. He was giving Davis more credit then these Myths that said he was this ultimate destroyer, almost feeling like they were wrong about him. If he was such a great evil why didn't he fight? Why did he sacrafice himself?

And their both from Krypton so of course Clark is going to think that it would kill Davis just like it would kill him.

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Doomsday may be the ultimate destroyer but Clark Kent is the ultimate moron after tonight!

Clark is the ultimate good guy in fighting for people. I never loved Clark more.

xrayvision
04-03-2009, 12:15 AM
Doomsday may be the ultimate destroyer but Clark Kent is the ultimate moron after tonight!

I disagree. Clark sees the good in people. He always believes there's an alternative to killing. Unfortunately, he will learn the hard way this time that there is no alternative.

It doesn't seem he knows or remembers what Jor-El meant in Abyss when he said that the Destroyer can evolve from any attack. Perhaps he doesn't know that it means coming back from attacks that have killed him.

Kschreck
04-03-2009, 12:19 AM
The same writers and director that did Eternal is doing the finale. I hope it turns out better then Eternal did.

drvr8
04-03-2009, 12:21 AM
I laughed and thought, Clark doesn't know what the season finale is called!

Throwback24
04-03-2009, 12:22 AM
The symbol for doom represents the ultimate destroyer. A Kryptonian creature bred for a single purpose - to kill. It adapts and evolves to any attack. It is virtually unstoppable. And it appears it's made its way to Earth.

Jor-El

smallvillerocks45
04-03-2009, 12:32 AM
I think it was just a bit of foreshadowing - in fact, I felt like the whole episode was... and I liked it.

I definitely wouldn't say that Clark was being cocky, and I don't think he is dumb either. Tess told Clark that Davis would be the ultimate destroyer, that he would fight him to the death, no? (maybe I'm filling in some blanks - I'll have to watch again)... but either way, that wasn't the case. Davis gave up. I can see why Clark would say it wasn't much of fight, then.

The thing is, we know that Davis is coming back, stronger than ever, and this Kryptonite bath, just made it that much harder for Clark when he and Davis (presumably) do battle some day.

Kschreck
04-03-2009, 12:49 AM
I read this phrase as nothing more then a small tease for things that come. I do wonder what happened with Oliver Queen though since he was doing something with Davis's corpse before the scene appeared with Davis camping out in Chloe's basement. I just wonder what exactly happened here in offscreenville.

Ellsbury
04-03-2009, 02:06 AM
I wish one day they made Clark clever...

Kschreck
04-03-2009, 02:07 AM
I wish one day they made Clark clever...


You mean you don't like the big dumb alien? JK! ;)

Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 02:26 AM
ahhhh the irony!

morrigan01
04-03-2009, 03:44 AM
Choose the first option, but what I said was "Oh honey, you have no idea."

amalie
04-03-2009, 04:03 AM
Choose the first option, but what I said was "Oh honey, you have no idea."


Exactly my reaction, almost word for word.

workshyslacker
04-03-2009, 04:38 AM
My reaction?

"Famous last words":lol:

:lol:

Exactly. Add "I should've listened to Jor-el (again)" as another.


Ah, Clark. I look forward to your battle with Doomy when you can look himin the eye and say in the immortal words of the Divine Lois Lane:

"Bring it, b****."

Or "Get away from her, you b****," in homage to their Alien egg-hatching scene for Davis. :p

Isabel14
04-03-2009, 07:17 AM
I mean, come on, do you expect Clark remember evrything that Jor-El said to him?:rotfl: You'll see in future Clark, I hope he doesn't regret so much for saying these words..

Tess is Smokin
04-03-2009, 07:19 AM
I bet in THAT moment. Clark jinxed it... if he hadn't have said it.. DD wouldn't have come back and bite his ass off

Silent Kal
04-03-2009, 07:52 AM
Yeah, I have to agree with Chlo-El and others: I totally disagree with the interpretation that Clark was being cocky. Look at his face, man. He feels guilty.

For all this talk of "ultimate destroyer," Clark felt true remorse that Davis died, even if at his own hand. Clark's statement, "It wasn't much of a fight," belies the fact that he felt like he somehow had an advantage over Davis (by his upbringing if nothing else) and that this situation was inherently unfair.

Give Clark some credit here, folks. Remember, he was the one trying to save Davis, even knowing who and what he could become.

SupermanRox
04-03-2009, 08:00 AM
It's note fair to call Clark a BDA on this one because he doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. Yes, Jor-El told Clark that Doomsday could evolve beyond any attack. But if I was Clark I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, even if Davis dies he will come back immune to what killed him." I would think that "While I am attacking him, he will get stronger."

Clark doesn't know the "evolution" Jor-El spoke about involves Davis/Doomsday dying and being reborn. Even Chloe was surprised by that knowledge by the end. When the Kryptonite killed Davis and he didn't evolve beyond the attack right away, I think Clark assumed that Davis was dead.

It's really a situation where we the viewers obviously know better, but Clark doesn't know, he doesn't have ALL the facts. So it's really easy for us to say Clark is a BDA. But he doesn't know that Davis is reborn after every death, impervious to whatever killed him last time. So I can't blame him for thinking it's all over with because Davis looked like he died.

I agree. We have to remember that Clark doesn't know what we know.

mjs1973
04-03-2009, 08:24 AM
You need to add "Clark has no idea" to that poll. Only Chloe knows that "What kills you makes you stronger." She may txt Clark or call him to warn him or something. If her character is the one to die, this may be how it happens.

baltazor
04-03-2009, 08:40 AM
I think Tess is right. Clark will realize that being a big softy all this time and delaying again and again to take his destiny seriously, will really be the end of him in the final battle with DD. He is going to get crushed BIG time !!!

What can you do? Some people learn the HARD way....

snookie16
04-03-2009, 08:48 AM
I think Tess is right. Clark will realize that being a big softy all this time and delaying again and again to take his destiny seriously, will really be the end of him in the final battle with DD. He is going to get crushed BIG time !!!

What can you do? Some people learn the HARD way....

Clark has delayed his destiny long enough he know that Kal-El must come and defeat the ultimate destroyer. I remember in seaon two when him and Chloe friendship was on the rocks he denied his destiny and was punished for it. Kal-El came out with the red kryptonite this was also around the time he though he was to be a conqueror of Earth instead of a savior. Tess and Chloe see what is going to happen. They saw it from the beginning so there is going to be an battle royal.

FlashInSV
04-03-2009, 09:06 AM
"Famous last words":lol:

:rotfl: Brilliant!

My reaction was "Careful what you wish for, honey"

oberyn
04-03-2009, 09:32 AM
I think that line was just dripping with dramatic irony. Not the first time for this show.

chlo-el
04-03-2009, 09:37 AM
I wish one day they made Clark clever...


I thought Clark was very clever in this ep but he was also being very compassionate.

Minela
04-03-2009, 09:38 AM
Of course I knew Doomy would be back. Come on! They need to "try and trick us" better than that. :lol:

Iluvgreen
04-03-2009, 10:24 AM
wow Clark...... just wow.

NIGHTRAVENXLR1
04-03-2009, 12:22 PM
your going to get a better fight soon enough clarky boy

Cage
04-03-2009, 12:24 PM
My reaction?


"Famous last words":lol:

"Never Underestimate your opponent!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

Jaderoyale
04-03-2009, 03:30 PM
I actually laughed.
Clark should realise by now that whatever he has to fight puts up a massive fight. He was being too niave.
Chloe should have realised when Davis was in the basement at the end of the episode that the fight will be rough.

Dyanara
04-03-2009, 05:14 PM
:lol:

Exactly. Add "I should've listened to Jor-el (again)" as another.





Clark: "It didn't turn out to be much of a fight"
:CRASHBOOM:
Davis/Doomsday breaks in the door
Clark screams like a girl

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


He was being too niave.


I wanted to smack Clark when he was trying to talk brother talk with Davis, that was the height of his stupidity. The iltimate destroyer named doomsday but Clark thinks all he needs is some therapy and he'll be ok.

marcella
04-03-2009, 06:01 PM
Clark, if you only knew:p

Supes_24
04-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Clark Vs DoomsDay better at least, at least, be Combat x2...Im hoping for x3
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I can't wait for the big throw down:eek:

xrayvision
04-04-2009, 02:36 AM
I didn't vote for any of the choices because I didn't really agree with any.

It's note fair to call Clark a BDA on this one because he doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. Yes, Jor-El told Clark that Doomsday could evolve beyond any attack. But if I was Clark I wouldn't automatically think, "Oh, even if Davis dies he will come back immune to what killed him." I would think that "While I am attacking him, he will get stronger."

Clark doesn't know the "evolution" Jor-El spoke about involves Davis/Doomsday dying and being reborn. Even Chloe was surprised by that knowledge by the end. When the Kryptonite killed Davis and he didn't evolve beyond the attack right away, I think Clark assumed that Davis was dead.

It's really a situation where we the viewers obviously know better, but Clark doesn't know, he doesn't have ALL the facts. So it's really easy for us to say Clark is a BDA. But he doesn't know that Davis is reborn after every death, impervious to whatever killed him last time. So I can't blame him for thinking it's all over with because Davis looked like he died.

I actually re-watched Clark's conversation with Jor-El from Abyss today and Jor-El also told him that he is virtually unstoppable. So I do think this should have resonated with Clark. He should not think something that is virtually unstoppable will go down in a kryptonite bath.

Davis Bloome
04-04-2009, 05:44 AM
I can't really vote for any option. Clark thought he was dead, but he isn't. So maybe option one is maybe best, but I don't think Doomsday is going to kill Clark... Maybe Clark will get killed but be reborn again? Which I would find unoriginal. Jor-El already resurrected him once and he said he would be reborn entering the cave with the fake supergirl.

J Jon'z
04-04-2009, 05:47 AM
I don't think that was the point of the line...I think Clark was just lamenting the way Chloe killed Davis. It's true; it wasn't much of a fight...and I think Clark was just frustrated the man he would have called "brother" was, as it were, put down like a rabid animal.

Clark didn't want Davis to die, and ignoring the fact that Davis didn't die right then, Clark was expressing regret over the way things turned out for a sympathetic character, not gloating over the defeat of a villain.

Yeah, I agree, it wasn't naive to think that krytonite could kill Doomsday, the flashbacks showed krytonite hurting a young Davis Bloome, but making him stronger? I guess his nature is to adapt. The only way to really dispose of him is to send him to the Phantom zone. Which won't kill him, but get rid of him.

Big O
04-04-2009, 07:00 AM
I agree. We have to remember that Clark doesn't know what we know.

Thats it....we the fans know...way more about Clark Kent's life story....than he knows at this point...so...to say hes a dummy...for saying or doing something ..some fans feel is dopey.....like standing up Lois for instance...or not knowing that Davis cant be killed by kryptonite...is not fair to the guy...hes still got a ways to go....on his journey to becoming Superman..

besides....how could we relate to CK...if he never made a mistake ..was a know-it-all....or made the right desicion..every single time.....it would make CK... a pretty boring character....personality wise...and be like watching a real life version...of Duddley Do Right....

rebecavaldez
04-04-2009, 07:36 AM
Davis is going to kill Clark as Doomsday, not Davis.

wolverine316
04-04-2009, 11:40 AM
I don't see what the big deal is with the throwaway line Clark did. He thought the ultimate destroyer was dead and the big battle was avoided. Why is Clark an idiot for thinking that:confused: but I guess I should expect nothing less with the Clark bashing that always goes on here.

SnowBird
04-04-2009, 11:46 AM
I don't see what the big deal is with the throwaway line Clark did. He thought the ultimate destroyer was dead and the big battle was avoided. Why is Clark an idiot for thinking that:confused: but I guess I should expect nothing less with the Clark bashing that always goes on here.

ITA

MrZeppo
04-04-2009, 11:54 AM
I actually re-watched Clark's conversation with Jor-El from Abyss today and Jor-El also told him that he is virtually unstoppable. So I do think this should have resonated with Clark. He should not think something that is virtually unstoppable will go down in a kryptonite bath.

I can see your point, but to debate this, Clark is considered "virtually unstoppable" as well. His only real weakness beyond his emotional hangups is Kryptonite. Clark just learned Davis is a Kryptonian as well, supposedly suffering the same weaknesses as he does based on his past experiences with Kryptonians, so to think Kryptonite could kill Davis isn't a superleap in logic. Because given the scant facts Clark currently knows, I think it would actually be more of a superleap in logic to think that Davis could come back from the dead.

At the core of the matter is the fact Clark doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. He doesn't know death cannot stop him, he isn't privy to the same knowledge as the viewers, that Davis will come back stronger than before. Just like Superman didn't know in the comics. Clark went there thinking Kryptonite would kill him, Davis himself believed it could. When Davis did "die" I don't believe Clark would automatically think, "He's going to come back from the dead."

So personally, I can see Clark's POV when he thinks Davis is dead.

BTW, I was thinking it was kind of funny that in this situation Davis is the real BDA. Clark doesn't know what Davis knows. Davis was told he could evolve from death by Faora, he has experienced it himself, but he still thought Kryptonite could kill him. Even if he thought this was it, that kryptonite could kill him, he could have at least warned Chloe and Clark that he has come back from the dead before.

Skaterpen357
04-04-2009, 12:01 PM
I actually re-watched Clark's conversation with Jor-El from Abyss today and Jor-El also told him that he is virtually unstoppable. So I do think this should have resonated with Clark. He should not think something that is virtually unstoppable will go down in a kryptonite bath. That may have been part of the point. As you yourself said, Clark didn't expect Doomsday to come back from death, so that the Kryptonite actually killed Davis probably was a surprise for him. I suppose that brings up the question as to why Clark was protesting the K-shower in the first place, but as J Jon'z stated and I think I brought up in another thread, Kryptonite did look like a plausible exception to the unstoppable thing. I know Zod was treated as "unstoppable" and from Krypton in the fifth season, and though we didn't see any Kryptonite in his arc, I'm sure that would have worked. And as far as is shown on Smallville, Kryptonite is the only thing Davis ever encountered that could really hurt him, so I don't have much of a problem with it.

Like I said before, though, I think the line was more a lamentation of execution from Clark than a cocky statement of victory.

xrayvision
04-04-2009, 08:45 PM
I can see your point, but to debate this, Clark is considered "virtually unstoppable" as well. His only real weakness beyond his emotional hangups is Kryptonite. Clark just learned Davis is a Kryptonian as well, supposedly suffering the same weaknesses as he does based on his past experiences with Kryptonians, so to think Kryptonite could kill Davis isn't a superleap in logic. Because given the scant facts Clark currently knows, I think it would actually be more of a superleap in logic to think that Davis could come back from the dead.

At the core of the matter is the fact Clark doesn't know how Doomsday evolves. He doesn't know death cannot stop him, he isn't privy to the same knowledge as the viewers, that Davis will come back stronger than before. Just like Superman didn't know in the comics. Clark went there thinking Kryptonite would kill him, Davis himself believed it could. When Davis did "die" I don't believe Clark would automatically think, "He's going to come back from the dead."

So personally, I can see Clark's POV when he thinks Davis is dead.

BTW, I was thinking it was kind of funny that in this situation Davis is the real BDA. Clark doesn't know what Davis knows. Davis was told he could evolve from death by Faora, he has experienced it himself, but he still thought Kryptonite could kill him. Even if he thought this was it, that kryptonite could kill him, he could have at least warned Chloe and Clark that he has come back from the dead before.

Good points. I do think though that Clark shouldn't just write him off & give more consideration to both what Jor-El & Tess told him. If I was Clark, I would take Jor-El's warning as DD being more than your average Kryptonian and try to find out everything there is on him.

I don't think Davis was being a BDA. I think Davis was playing Chloe because deep down Davis wants to kill Clark. Davis was shown to be evil from the start with that flashback showing the dead body of the bird that he killed. The fact that he didn't warn them is proof that he's playing them.

MrZeppo
04-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Good points. I do think though that Clark shouldn't just write him off & give more consideration to both what Jor-El & Tess told him. If I was Clark, I would take Jor-El's warning as DD being more than your average Kryptonian and try to find out everything there is on him.

I don't think Davis was being a BDA. I think Davis was playing Chloe because deep down Davis wants to kill Clark. Davis was shown to be evil from the start with that flashback showing the dead body of the bird that he killed. The fact that he didn't warn them is proof that he's playing them.

I wish Clark had given more consideration into what Jor-El had said, however I wish Jor-El had actually given Clark a straight answer instead of his usual cryptic responses. If he had told Clark that Doomsday can evolve past anything that kills him, that would have saved a lot of trouble. I however wouldn't trust Tess with anything, her hotness be damned, she's crazy shady.

Hmm, I don't know if I agree with you about young Davis being evil just because he killed a bird. Misguided, definitely. No one was there teaching him like Jonathan and Martha taught Clark. He was barely a week old, just hatched from a meteor full of goo, I don't think he was instilled with the value for human life Clark was.

He did learn value for human life though. He grew up, became an EMT (my sister & friend are both a EMTs, it's a very noble and dangerous profession), saved lives. So I don't think he's a cut and dry evil person. If he was than I'd probably find this storyline boring. An evil guy who turns into an evil monster is more boring than a good guy who turns into an evil monster. JMHO.

And I don't think he's as manipulative has Lionel and Lex were, so I don't feel he's playing Clark and Chloe. He honestly thought the kryptonite would kill him. To be truthful, the reason I think he didn't say anything to Clark & Chloe about coming back from the dead is that I think he's a bit dense sometimes. Just like Clark can be dense sometimes. Sometimes it's sloppy writing, sometimes it's the writers placing limitations on their characters to set the overall pace of the story arc.

I do think whatever Davis does, however much he may regret what he's done or not, he's truly cursed. Whether he's a good person at heart forced to do horrible things, or a bad person manipulating our heroes, his destiny to become "Doomsday" is unavoidable in my eyes. Like Clark said, no matter what Davis does he's doomed.

Tatiana
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
My reaction was ohh no no Clark my love, he's going to kick your lovely bottom and kill you, sniff I don't want to see you die...

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I wish Clark had given more consideration into what Jor-El had said, however I wish Jor-El had actually given Clark a straight answer instead of his usual cryptic responses. If he had told Clark that Doomsday can evolve past anything that kills him, that would have saved a lot of trouble. I however wouldn't trust Tess with anything, her hotness be damned, she's crazy shady.

Hmm, I don't know if I agree with you about young Davis being evil just because he killed a bird. Misguided, definitely. No one was there teaching him like Jonathan and Martha taught Clark. He was barely a week old, just hatched from a meteor full of goo, I don't think he was instilled with the value for human life Clark was.

He did learn value for human life though. He grew up, became an EMT (my sister & friend are both a EMTs, it's a very noble and dangerous profession), saved lives. So I don't think he's a cut and dry evil person. If he was than I'd probably find this storyline boring. An evil guy who turns into an evil monster is more boring than a good guy who turns into an evil monster. JMHO.

And I don't think he's as manipulative has Lionel and Lex were, so I don't feel he's playing Clark and Chloe. He honestly thought the kryptonite would kill him. To be truthful, the reason I think he didn't say anything to Clark & Chloe about coming back from the dead is that I think he's a bit dense sometimes. Just like Clark can be dense sometimes. Sometimes it's sloppy writing, sometimes it's the writers placing limitations on their characters to set the overall pace of the story arc.

I do think whatever Davis does, however much he may regret what he's done or not, he's truly cursed. Whether he's a good person at heart forced to do horrible things, or a bad person manipulating our heroes, his destiny to become "Doomsday" is unavoidable in my eyes. Like Clark said, no matter what Davis does he's doomed.






I agree, I think Smallville has done a great job with Doomsday's other identity, you almost feel sorry for him as you did with Lex, and Tess really gives me the same creepy feelings Lionel did.

MrZeppo
04-05-2009, 06:44 AM
I agree, I think Smallville has done a great job with Doomsday's other identity, you almost feel sorry for him as you did with Lex, and Tess really gives me the same creepy feelings Lionel did.

Yeah I will admit I found myself surprised when I started feeling bad for Davis. I know he's doomed, that he can become a monster, but this whole alter ego thing is actually quite facinating.

ITA! I find Tess to be more similar to Lionel than Lex. Lionel manipulated events and Clark because he felt it was important for Clark's overall destiny. It wasn't like how it was with Lex, who was just at heart, petty and jealous of Clark's life. Looks like she's trying to be a MB. :)

luthorian
04-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Clark sounded a little dissapointed about Jor-El giving him false warnings :lol:

e-ĩ-i
04-05-2009, 08:44 AM
If only you would look on Wikipedia, Clark. ;)
Hahaha nice one :rotfl: indeed...

Dor el
04-05-2009, 12:55 PM
I actually re-watched Clark's conversation with Jor-El from Abyss today and Jor-El also told him that he is virtually unstoppable. So I do think this should have resonated with Clark. He should not think something that is virtually unstoppable will go down in a kryptonite bath.

Clark looked like he felt guilty that fate favored him over Doomis. Clark never misses an opportunity to feel guilty. This time Clark's compassion is gonna come back and bite him big time. I can't wait. I thoroughly enjoy a bruised and bleeding Clark. Sounds rather sick doesn't it. I think Tess wants to see a big fight too. She is the real Judas.

I hope Xrayvision is right that Davis is playing everyone. He knew he was at least temorarily susceptible to green K and surely he wouldn't want anyone pulling that out in the middle of a big showdown. Maybe he wanted to get that death avenue out of the way so he could get on with his missions to kill Clark. But I have to admit, Davis did look sincere when he said he needed to die so he could excape his destiny.

Welling_is_pretty
04-05-2009, 01:02 PM
If only you would look on Wikipedia, Clark. ;)
:rotfl: Or Ksite! We'd clue him in.

cody
04-05-2009, 07:16 PM
My reaction was, "Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Teeheeheeheeheehee... hehehe... heh...*sigh*:lol::lol::rotfl::rotfl:

ClLaLeChFAN01
04-05-2009, 07:24 PM
my reaction, "Dude your a** is grass!"

superjude
04-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Man, Is he in for the licking of his life!! It was definitely foreshadowing for the fight that is to come. He spoke way too soon!!!

cowboyman
04-06-2009, 01:49 PM
I didn't take Clark's comment to be arrogance or anything like that. Clark has had so much thrown up against him, all in accordance with his training to prepare him for his destiny that when he was told that Doomsday was the ultimate destroyer, he could only believe that this was part of his destiny - to destroy Doomsday first. To have him apparently dealt with so easily must have had Clark believe that perhaps all that training was more overkill than anything....

.... but as we've seen, that is hardly the truth ...

kp1984
04-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Those kids may have mess themself up. They could the just lock him up somewhere. Everytime he's about to turn into the beast they could use Green K on him. They should'nt the killed him with it. They should have used that for the beast to contorl it. Porbably won't work now since he can't die the same way tiwice.

justme_007
04-06-2009, 08:17 PM
If only you would look on Wikipedia, Clark. ;)

:lol: best answer so far jajaja :rotfl:

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You know, sometimes I feel like it's pointless to watch every episode of this series because the writers certainly don't remember what they write. How can Clark so easily assume that Davis is dead when he learned from Jor-El that Doomsday could not be killed? Did he really think that kryptonite was going to do the trick? Even Davis looked like a moron in this episode because he actually thought that kryptonite was going to kill him after he survived everything else and was stronger as a result of it.

Well thatīs also true. :o

Pixelate
04-07-2009, 01:40 PM
They could always transport, phase, magic, tele something him to some other time , place, planet, zone, void.. Cause Doomsday can't really be killed, and I can't see any of those comic heroes who trapped him in that space time thingy appearing anytime in smallville. Magic works on Clark, so maybe some magic can send him away. Either way Clark, poor Clark may get a good bruising from DD before that may happen.

mimi1123
04-07-2009, 06:06 PM
I was so glad he made that comment! To me it sounded almost like he suspected it was too good to be true.

Tatiana
04-09-2009, 09:44 AM
Yeah I will admit I found myself surprised when I started feeling bad for Davis. I know he's doomed, that he can become a monster, but this whole alter ego thing is actually quite facinating.

ITA! I find Tess to be more similar to Lionel than Lex. Lionel manipulated events and Clark because he felt it was important for Clark's overall destiny. It wasn't like how it was with Lex, who was just at heart, petty and jealous of Clark's life. Looks like she's trying to be a MB. :)


Yup I definitely agree, she is very manipulative just as Lionel was and who knows, maybe she will end up like him

malft
04-18-2009, 02:18 AM
First off, Every Kryptonian Clark and Chloe have come across have been susceptible to the green K. They had every right to think it killed Davis. Why didn't they stick him in the Phantom Zone?

MrZeppo
04-19-2009, 08:17 AM
First off, Every Kryptonian Clark and Chloe have come across have been susceptible to the green K. They had every right to think it killed Davis. Why didn't they stick him in the Phantom Zone?

How'd they stick him in the Phantom Zone? They have no way to put him in the PZ. The Fortress is dead, they have no PZ crystals.

xrayvision
04-19-2009, 09:51 AM
How'd they stick him in the Phantom Zone? They have no way to put him in the PZ. The Fortress is dead, they have no PZ crystals.

I wonder how a dead FoS interacts with the orb? Last time we saw the orb having some sort of connection to the FoS by giving its coordinates to Lex and destroying it (though I'm not sure if the orb caused the destruction or Jor-El did that to prevent Lex from accessing its power & knowledge). Now the FoS is dead. I'm hoping Clark finds a message from Jor-El regarding the Eradicator being in the Phantom Zone with the orb sending Clark to the Phantom Zone as a test sety up by Tess. While in there, he can track down the Eradicator & run a gauntlet so he can fight while being overmatched & being outnumbered. This would help him against Doomsday later on in Doomsday.

jpfort1957
04-20-2009, 07:37 AM
I didn't take Clark's comment as being cocky at all. I'm sure he realized it was too easy to have been over.