All Things CLARK KENT

[cloisthelegendbegins]

There's seems to be a lack of a thread dedicated to discussing just CLARK in this episode, so here we go. How did the hero of the show do? Is he more aware of what's going on with Davis than before? What are his options or will he have no choice but to kill Doomsday? How heroic was he in Eternal or was he overshadowed by other characters? What was his wardrobe like this week? Comments on the hair?

[IHeartClois]

I like this thread! Cant wait for the epi to air!

[Tompouce]

Annie, if you ask me what I think of Clark, I can already say : magic, stellar, divine, handsome, outstanding, brillant (my answer includes all your questions even the hair lol)http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-430.gif

[LoveHurts38]

Love your smiley Karine**lol**

[Tompouce]

Thanks, there are many to come if we talk about Clarkhttp://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-547.gif (lol)

[LoveHurts38]

Cool Cherry can't wait!!

[Tompouce]

If it works, my 2500 posts will be for Clark : http://www.abcsmileys.com/im/iloveupanneau.gif (lol lol lol)

[geminis]

If it works, my 2500 posts will be for Clark : http://www.abcsmileys.com/im/iloveupanneau.gif (lol lol lol)

I missed it, but congratulations, anyways! :D

I've noticed that super isn't included in your list, Karine. He's finally getting there, though, and it's about time!

Annie, brilliant idea!

Must have more focus on Clark. More minutes, more everything Clark!

[Tompouce]

You are right, Anna. He is SUPER, of coursehttp://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-160.gif

[workshyslacker]

I like his hair and wardrobe. Is that enough for now? :D

[Tompouce]

I like his hair and wardrobe. Is that enough for now? :D
Yes, I think we all understand what you mean http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-367.gif:D

[workshyslacker]

I'm admiring that little "S" curl he has on his fringe. I'm guessing as he grows into his role... so will this curl. :p

[geminis]

I'm admiring that little "S" curl he has on his fringe. I'm guessing as he grows into his role... so will this curl. :p

Me too. It reminds me of the poem, with a gender change, "there was a little girl, with a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead..." :lol:

On this side of the pond, we don't say fringe, we say bangs. And it is almost bang on! :)

[jobookjunkie]

Me too. It reminds me of the poem, with a gender change, "there was a little girl, with a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead..." :lol:

On this side of the pond, we don't say fringe, we say bangs. And it is almost bang on! :)

I remember that poem! I had to recite in primary school! *has visions of Clark as the little girl in the poem* I'll never be able to read that poem in the same way again :lol:

Love the pun Ann :D

[Tompouce]

I remember that poem! I had to recite in primary school! *has visions of Clark as the little girl in the poem* I'll never be able to read that poem in the same way again :lol:

Love the pun Ann :D
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Clark is handsome whatever he does, looks, acts, this man is just "impossible" http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-431.gif

[SnowBird]

Clark is the best. I have never started a Clark thread for fear that it will turn into a reason to bash him. I hope it works out better this time.

[geminis]

I remember that poem! I had to recite in primary school! *has visions of Clark as the little girl in the poem* I'll never be able to read that poem in the same way again :lol:

Love the pun Ann :D

Thanks. :) Isn't Clark cute?! :lol:

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Clark is the best. I have never started a Clark thread for fear that it will turn into a reason to bash him. I hope it works out better this time.

He's made some great strides, so I think fewer and fewer people will have reason to bash him, just mourn his absence.

[jobookjunkie]

Thanks. :) Isn't Clark cute?! :lol:

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He's made some great strides, so I think fewer and fewer people will have reason to bash him, just mourn his absence.

Clark is just....that scene in Hex when EDChloe tries to persuade him he's a hero...I had to pause it cos I was laughing so much at how cute he was!!

People bash Clark?? http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-377.gif

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Clark is the best. I have never started a Clark thread for fear that it will turn into a reason to bash him. I hope it works out better this time.

Fingers crossed Bev! I think there's enough of us here to debate things. Just seems to me our boy could do with a little attention and there are plenty of threads on everyone else - and I'm saying that as a Lois fan as well as a Clark fan :)

After last week I hope we get more of the Clark who can hold his own :D I'm really hoping he doesn't blame himself for everything this week. y'know?

[Tompouce]

Clark is just....that scene in Hex when EDChloe tries to persuade him he's a hero...I had to pause it cos I was laughing so much at how cute he was!!

People bash Clark?? http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-377.gif
Yes, especially after Zatanna asked him to make a wish and EDChloe asked him if everything was okay. This face he had !!!:lol:Like "yes, everything is okay but who are you, what are you asking me that ?". The naive face, this man is perfectionhttp://www.yelims.com/IPB/Smiley-IPB-72.gif
I understand what you mean Annie. But this is Clark. He is slow, he makes mistakes but even if he is a hero, I like thinking he is human too (even if he is an alien, the way he was raised has such an influence). I like so much his heart and soul:p

[WickedJenn]

I'm curious to see how Clark handles all that's going to occur in this episode (without getting too specific). Going by how he was in "Turbulence", instead of getting all nervous when Tess was grilling him, he sounded (more) confident in his denial about himself.

I'm hoping to see more of the same this time.

ETA: Perhaps it's the fact that he's establishing his RBB persona that he can "pretend" he IS two people, for lack of better wording, therefore coming across as more confident in his protecting himself?

[workshyslacker]

I understand what you mean Annie. But this is Clark. He is slow, he makes mistakes but even if he is a hero, I like thinking he is human too (even if he is an alien, the way he was raised has such an influence). I like so much his heart and soul:p

That's way too deep, Karine. :p

[Tompouce]

I'm curious to see how Clark handles all that's going to occur in this episode (without getting too specific). Going by how he was in "Turbulence", instead of getting all nervous when Tess was grilling him, he sounded (more) confident in his denial about himself.

I'm hoping to see more of the same this time.

ETA: Perhaps it's the fact that he's establishing his RBB persona that he can "pretend" he IS two people, for lack of better wording, therefore coming across as more confident in his protecting himself?
The danger with Clark is that he trusts people. And clearly, he wonders about Tess if he can tell her something or not (in Turbulence, I find him hesitant about it).
But you are right, he is establishing his RBB persona, so I think he will be wise.
Look what I feel for Clark (lol) : http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-345.gif

[cloisthelegendbegins]

I'm curious to see how Clark handles all that's going to occur in this episode (without getting too specific). Going by how he was in "Turbulence", instead of getting all nervous when Tess was grilling him, he sounded (more) confident in his denial about himself.

I'm hoping to see more of the same this time.

Absolutely :D That's what I'm hoping for too.


ETA: Perhaps it's the fact that he's establishing his RBB persona that he can "pretend" he IS two people, for lack of better wording, therefore coming across as more confident in his protecting himself?

So true. He's finding his feet more this season than I think he ever has before. I'll never forget the thrill of the newly mature Clark that came back in Odyssey. Makes me love him even more. :o What? Oh c'mon - those looks, the superhero qualities, that streak of honor AND maturity? It's a no brainer. And when he goes all 'Superman-ly' like he did with Zatanna on the roof of the DP it gives me chills! THAT'S the guy I've been watching for and I'm LOVING that he's finding his way this season.

[Tompouce]

That's way too deep, Karine. :p
:lol:
Annie, can we say, he really deserves this from us : http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-341.gif? :D

[workshyslacker]

The danger with Clark is that he trusts people. And clearly, he wonders about Tess if he can tell her something or not (in Turbulence, I find him hesitant about it).
But you are right, he is establishing his RBB persona, so I think he will be wise.
Look what I feel for Clark (lol) : http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-345.gif


*speaks into megaphone*

"Step away from the redhead and put the champagne glass down. You like Lois, remember?"

[LoveHurts38]

If it works, my 2500 posts will be for Clark : http://www.abcsmileys.com/im/iloveupanneau.gif (lol lol lol)


:lol:

[Tompouce]

*speaks into megaphone*

"Step away from the redhead and put the champagne glass down. You like Lois, remember?"
Yes, of course I like her:)But I am not jealous, you know ? :D

[workshyslacker]

Yes, of course I like her:)But I am not jealous, you know ? :D

LOL. I was pretending to talk to Clark. He seems to get sidetracked with ladies, you know. That innocent look Tess had in "Eternal", its all fake. She's luring him into a false sense of security.

[madcatlady]

The first half of "Eternal" I really liked Clark, but he started veering toward clueless at the end.

[Melekith]

I'm getting really sick and tired of this show bouncing back and forth like it does. It's like they intentionally tell two stories, and just flip-flop every week. For the whole 7 minutes of screentime that Clark had...he was alright. I was SEVERELY dissapointed that he went straight back to Chloe for help with his "murder investigation".

[WickedJenn]

I hear you Melekith, on the bouncing around.

I loved how Clark was with Tess in the barn, can I have that Clark all the time? I was very happy to see how Clark pulled all the missing persons reports himself and wrote an article on it, then went to Tess.

[myankskent]

The end of the episode was a real disaster for Clark. For him to think that Davis was dead after learning from Jor-El what Doomsday is all about, I just can't understand it.

[WickedJenn]

The end of the episode was a real disaster for Clark. For him to think that Davis was dead after learning from Jor-El what Doomsday is all about, I just can't understand it.

Did Jor-El tell him that kryptonite would make Doomy stronger? I guess I understand why Clark would assume he was dead, but at the same time, knowing he was kryptonian...

And what exactly did Ollie do I wonder...

OT but I must say it...kick arse avi and I can't wait.

[myankskent]

Did Jor-El tell him that kryptonite would make Doomy stronger? I guess I understand why Clark would assume he was dead, but at the same time, knowing he was kryptonian...


Jor-El told him that Doomsday adapts and evolves to any attack and that he was virtually unstoppable. I just didn't want to see Clark assume that Davis was dead that quickly.



OT but I must say it...kick arse avi and I can't wait.

Thanks. This is one of my favorite times of the year with opening day right around the corner.:D

[WickedJenn]

Jor-El told him that Doomsday adapts and evolves to any attack and that he was virtually unstoppable. I just didn't want to see Clark assume that Davis was dead that quickly.

Ah, well, I guess Clark should expect anything with him then...he should know from Brainiac alone...

Perhaps they'll touch more on that, I hope at least.

[green_arrow_girl358]

his hair was different?

[txluvstom]

The end of the episode was a real disaster for Clark. For him to think that Davis was dead after learning from Jor-El what Doomsday is all about, I just can't understand it.
I taped the episode and fastforward to only Clark scenes,so maybe I missed something. But was there a conversation that stated that the "monster at the wedding" and Davis' killing spree was done by the same person? I know we the viewers know this but did Clark and Chloe actually piece that together? I mean Clark and/or Chloe never referred to Davis as Doomsday,right? Did I miss that?

[BadToad]

As one of Clark's staunch supporters, I can't say that I felt like this was a terribly strong episode for Clark overall. For one thing, he was hardly in it. But I think the episode made several missteps with Clark overall.

Clark coming up with the article, and looking into unsolved murders was great! It showed that he is out there investigating, and he does want to take that to the DP. But then they sort of tore that down for him by having him run to Chloe, which just wasn't necessary, and made Clark's initiative seem like something less. I don't understand why they do this to him. Constantly!

Then they had that rather prickly scene between him and Chloe, where Clark just seems bothered by her relationship with Davis. While I can understand Clark's concern, the dialogue here didn't serve Clark particularly well.

Him x-raying the field, and seeing the bodies was a nice use of powers.

I wish they could've come up with better dialogue for Clark in the scene with Tess in the hospital room. I often get the impression with Souders/Peterson scripts that they just can't be bothered writing for Clark, so poor Tom is stuck with having to figure out how to make a reaction shot to others dialogue interesting.

I just felt really annoyed with Clark blaming himself for Davis. Because thats just ridiculous. I understand that Clark wants to help people, but there should be some reason to that. It may be true that Davis can't help what his alter-ego is, and it may also be true that Clark isn't fully aware that Davis is Doomsday (though why he wouldn't come to that conclusion, I have NO idea). But the reality is that Davis has left dozens of dead bodies in his wake, and shouldn't that matter? Its not like Davis cheated on his SAT's, and he deserves a 2nd chance. What did Clark want? For Davis to get therapy?

That whole scene was so awful to me.

I thought Clark was trying to be a good friend by going to see Chloe at the end, but again, it felt like another slap to Clark when Chloe said she wasn't going to let his ethics get in the way of protecting the world. Lines like that always feel like a lack of respect for the character of Clark Kent, as though he's not strong enough, or smart enough, or brave enough....well, and so on. I hate that sort of writing from SV.

I did like the last scene with Tess, because TW did a great job of conveying anger and annoyance. But again, the dialogue was more of the same that this episode was offering, and I didn't care for it.

So, not a favorite Clark episode from his diehard Clark fan. I was very disappointed in the writing. Tom did a great job with what he was given though. He deserves better writing. Clark Kent deserves better writing. IMO

[geminis]

I agree.

[SnowBird]

You have some good points BadToad. It just seemed like Clark was an after thought for a Davis episode. Tom did the best job he could with what was written for him. I really liked how he is investigating and writing articles.

[BadToad]

It just seemed like Clark was an after thought for a Davis episode.

Well, yeah, I think thats exactly what this episode was. You can just tell an episode where the writers sat down and wrote the script, and Clark was about 4th or 5th on their priority list. This episode was most definitely one of those. But Souders/Peterson are frequently guilty of this, which makes me shudder to think about them as sole showrunners in S9.


Tom did the best job he could with what was written for him.

Tom did great. :)


I really liked how he is investigating and writing articles.

I did too, but I was so aggravated that they cut him off at the knees with this. They create something that should really be just his, and then have him run to Chloe so she can...what? Hack something? It was so lame, and ultimately, completely unnecessary.

[SnowBird]

Well, yeah, I think thats exactly what this episode was. You can just tell an episode where the writers sat down and wrote the script, and Clark was about 4th or 5th on their priority list. This episode was most definitely one of those. But Souders/Peterson are frequently guilty of this, which makes me shudder to think about them as sole showrunners in S9.

That has me a little worried as well.



Tom did great. :) Tom is always great:D



I did too, but I was so aggravated that they cut him off at the knees with this. They create something that should really be just his, and then have him run to Chloe so she can...what? Hack something? It was so lame, and ultimately, completely unnecessary.

Old habbits are hard to break for the writters, but I have a feeling running to Chloe will be history, I hope.

[geminis]

That has me a little worried as well.


Tom is always great:D




Old habbits are hard to break for the writters, but I have a feeling running to Chloe will be history, I hope.

Hopefully they take a cue from Chloe and Clark in Hex and let the past be past. But they'd better remember it, because I really don't want them to repeat their past mistakes.

[MrZeppo]

Tom is amazing. I am slowly recovering from the "Pow-quiem" arc thanks to how Tom is portraying Clark now. I loved how he went to Tess with the serial killer story, all confident it would be his first front page article. I really liked all the subtle looks and actions he took, like looking out on that field. Wicked cool.

My favorite part was the Davis/Clark interaction, hands down. I was really looking forward to this conversation all season and it didn't serve to disappoint. Sam and Tom are really good playing off each other, not quite like how Tom & MR used to play off each other, but it's good in a different way.

Yeah I couldn't help but enjoy the whole scene.

My absolute favorite line was when Clark told Davis that "they should have been brothers". Ah, Clark, you crazy crazy hopeful kid. Yeah I know he's Doomsday but a part of me couldn't help but smile at our Clark here.

[txluvstom]

BadToad,I understand your frustration reguarding Clark's excessive guilt tirades,for lack of a better word. But I hope it's frustration FOR him and not AT him. I mean,God Bless him. He has a heart the size of Texas. And as for Tom.....Ohhhh,what can you say. Tonight he was the saving grace of this episode.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I know that Clark is all for the no killing policy and there's always another way and I love him for that but...really? There's always another way? Care to inform us the viewers of this plan? Because I don't see a way that doesn't involve Someone dying. He's either alive on Earth to kill people or alive in the phantom zone to kill people trapped there? What exactly does Clark plan to do even if Davis is alive?

[Kschreck]

Nothing was really achieved in this episode as far as Clark's destiny goes. He does at least now know that Davis Bloome is Doomsday. However, now that Chloe is harboring him, it's likely that he's going to believe that he is indeed dead.

What I am more concerned with is what happened to Oliver Queen who was taking care of Davis Bloome's corpse before the show magically flipped over to seeing Davis Bloome live and well in Chloe's basement.

[ginnyfan]

I loved that Clark didn't cave to Tess' guilt tripping and I love that he X-rayed the field where Davis' car was found. I also like that Clark wanted to help redeem Davis.

I disliked that Clark blamed himself for Davis' childhood. Ug.

[Kschreck]

Yeah, it felt like Clark was regressing a little bit when he once again took the blame for Davis being Doomsday when in all actuality Davis would have become Doomsday even if it was him that the Kent's found out there in the field.

[Seeya'round Smallville]

I'd like to petition for "it's all my fault" to be permanently banned as a phrase so that Clark is never allowed to say it again. Treat it like a four-letter word. Even if they write it in the censors should bleep it.

[ginnyfan]

^LOL! Yes please.

[SnowBird]

I'd like to petition for "it's all my fault" to be permanently banned as a phrase so that Clark is never allowed to say it again. Treat it like a four-letter word. Even if they write it in the censors should bleep it.

Sounds good to me...Another phrase that bugs me is: "I don't know what you are talking about." That has been used so much by everyone that I cringe when I hear it.

[BadToad]

BadToad,I understand your frustration reguarding Clark's excessive guilt tirades,for lack of a better word. But I hope it's frustration FOR him and not AT him.

Its both, actually. But its a complicated thing, because it all comes down to frustration with the writing, of course. But I still love Clark. Always :)


I mean,God Bless him. He has a heart the size of Texas.

He does, and there's nothing wrong with Clark feeling empathy for Davis. But shouldn't he also feel empathy for all the people Davis has killed? Shouldn't he also feel empathy for the what Davis did to Jimmy? I just want Clark to balance that empathy, and not say ridiculous things like "give this another chance". Another chance for what? Its not like Davis is a puppy that never got taught proper manners, and just needs obdience school. There's being hopeful, and then there's being ridiculously naive. I want the former from Clark, not the latter.


And as for Tom.....Ohhhh,what can you say. Tonight he was the saving grace of this episode.

Tom is lovely, and wonderful, and deserves better writers and showrunners.


I'd like to petition for "it's all my fault" to be permanently banned as a phrase so that Clark is never allowed to say it again. Treat it like a four-letter word. Even if they write it in the censors should bleep it.

I'm all for that. I would also like to add "I don't have a choice" to that list.

[costas22]

Clark was fantastic in this eppie.My favourite line was when he told Davis "we could have been brothers".It might sound silly given who Davis becomes,but as someone said,it shows how big a heart the guy has.More of this Clark please.

[MrZeppo]

I know that Clark is all for the no killing policy and there's always another way and I love him for that but...really? There's always another way? Care to inform us the viewers of this plan? Because I don't see a way that doesn't involve Someone dying. He's either alive on Earth to kill people or alive in the phantom zone to kill people trapped there? What exactly does Clark plan to do even if Davis is alive?

LOL! Blue Kryptonite, obviously! Clark was hoping to snag some from the local Blue K shop and give his bro Doomy a lovely bracelet. It would not have killed Doomster so there wouldn't have been a way to evolve past the Blue K but it would have removed all his powers.

By the way, I'm just joking, but in retrospect I think it is an interesting idea. I still wouldn't want it to happen tho. Whoooo Doomy, go evil!

[Tatiana]

i think he looked hot, I liked his acting too. The face of fear like saying "oh crap!" when Davis starting to turn into the monster inside the cage, right before Chloe turns on the shower, was awesome. I also loved how the wind made his t-shirt tight on his torso during the field scene, yummy...what a tease, so sexy hehe. He looked really good in the end with the Chloe conversation and with the Tess chat

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I think it made sense he said they could have been brothers, if the kents would have found the other boy, they would have taken him as well. Its just that he wasn't created like Clark, he was an experiment, but Clark of course does have a huge heart and he felt bad for what Lionel did to Davis, I did too

[Tompouce]

Clark was fantastic in this eppie.My favourite line was when he told Davis "we could have been brothers".It might sound silly given who Davis becomes,but as someone said,it shows how big a heart the guy has.More of this Clark please.
As I always say, what I love the most in Clark's character is his heart and soulhttp://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-430.gif
This man is truly, deeply good. He can be naive with mankind but as Chloe said to him it is his weakness and his strenght. I prefer thinking like him. Clark, OUR HERO:p;)

[badraven]

I thought TW did a fantastic job, per the norm, in 'Eternal.' Picking up on a theme (I think) of recent posts is the frustration from Clark always feeling he is to blame for everything. Add me to that list. I just finished (this morning) season 7 on Blu-ray and Clark's guilt trips were laid on thick. For some reason TPTP of SV have decided for Clark to blame himself for everything that goes wrong within a hundred mile radius of wherever he is standing. And anything that goes wrong to someone he knows no matter how far they are from him. It's been that way almost from the beginning. I really wish someone in the show would sit Clark done and say "ENOUGH, not everything is your fault Clark" and let him move beyond this. That said, as a huge Spider-Man fan, I can't tell you how many Spidey comic stories I've read over the years where Peter blames himself and says he is going to stop being Spider-Man. You have no idea how many...UGH! I don't like it with Spidey, even less with Clark. But I always seem to come back for more.

[Rift]

What powers did Clark use in this episode? I think he supersped to the warehouse and that was it, wasn't it?

[Tompouce]

But it is not always about Clark's powers, he used his heart, soul. This man is deeply good, that is what matters. That is why I like him so much