Why another Chloomy episode after Chloe has become Watchtower? [Archive]

rick.itch

04-02-2009, 10:57 AM

first they make all this chloe and davis episode and people start to hate chloe then they make her the most wanted and now they will start with the old pattern and give ous a bad chloe... im a really big chloe fan (Chlois fan and i hate chlommy but dont get all mad for it) :D

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chloe and davis are a great solo mates but with all the dommy , it's only make chloe look like a really bad person

chlo-el

04-02-2009, 11:02 AM

rick.itch

04-02-2009, 11:13 AM

i agree like i said i love them togheter and he is like the best for her ,,but with all this dommy .. chloe character stat only gets down and down every episode with them togheter and im all for chloe without a man and people start to like more and i then chloe with a man that just keeps making her the most hated lana the second :S

chlo-el

04-02-2009, 11:18 AM

I know a lot of people seem to hate Chloe from Turbulence and from spoilers they been painiting Chloe as some kind of villian. But I don't think it will actually play out that way. She'll just be a girl who doesn't give up on people or aliens. And she's trying to save everyone. So I say to whatever to all of those Chlavis haters. You know if Chloe gave up on Davis like she did in Infamous she would prob be dead and Doomsday would still be let loose. I'm just saying.

And can you change the poll and add a both option?

rick.itch

04-02-2009, 11:20 AM

i will trie because am now at this haha and nice speech you just said all i whanted to say

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like i said :D

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ok people on i dont now is for am on both sides like i am now :D

holehead13

04-02-2009, 11:35 AM

I think they should definitely take Chlavis further, but I don't think Chloe will ever side with Doomsday over Clark(see 'Infamous') and I very much hope the writers don't try to make her darker like they did with Lana. It would just be too similar.

rick.itch

04-02-2009, 01:26 PM

yes but now lets look if this episode is like anti chloomy episode and then we can judge what we are

Violet-Shadow

04-02-2009, 02:14 PM

More Chloomy? :rolleyes: Don't know for sure because the episode hasn't aired but I just want the Chloomy/Chlavis to be DONE. Switching gears, I don't think Chloe will be the villian spoilers seem to be painting her as either. Those spoilers can be very misleading. As for her interaction with Dooms, it may not be entirely romantic. We'll just have to see, starting with this episode, how the Chalvis dynamic has changed/stayed the same/whatever.

jsith99

04-02-2009, 02:17 PM

Until Chloe calls herself watchtower out on the street I dont buy this as her name.To me any JL member sitting in the control center would answer to watchtower Just like any police officer answers dispach when a patrol calls in

rick.itch

04-02-2009, 02:27 PM

see and learn people

Vindellavon

04-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Not Chloomy, more lie Chlaroomy. Clark has finally made an appearance in this doomed duo.

SupermanRox

04-02-2009, 02:39 PM

I'm all for the Watchtower being online.

Clana Kent

04-02-2009, 04:16 PM

I'm all for the Watchtower being online.
Ditto

Diego*Chloe

04-02-2009, 04:56 PM

I dont know but they make Chloe look cool in one episode and by the next week shes acting OOC and everyone is bashing her so if Allison comes back for full S9 I hope PS treats Chloe better!!!!!!.

zHeN_zHeN

04-02-2009, 05:24 PM

Well, why not?

I'd like to know who Davis Bloome is--his backstory, where he comes from (other than his alien origins), and how he's somehow connected to Lex. Chloomy's just icing on the cake! ;)

All this coming from a Clois fan! :D

Autumn

04-02-2009, 05:27 PM

zHeN_zHeN

04-02-2009, 05:30 PM

i don't think chloe helping davis will be ooc at all. She'll be trying to help someone good. I find that admirable and a good quality and completely in character for chloe. What do you want her to do? Spit in his face and say how evil he is when he has no control over the beast within (vigilante killing and chloe being his last hope)? I say go chloe!

I'm excited for this! I want more chlavis, more chloom, and more chloe watchtower!
Yes, I totally I agree! :D

Diego*Chloe

04-02-2009, 05:37 PM

I don't think Chloe helping Davis will be OOC at all. She'll be trying to help someone good. I find that admirable and a good quality and completely in character for Chloe. What do you want her to do? Spit in his face and say how evil he is when he has no control over the Beast within (vigilante killing and Chloe being his last hope)? I say go Chloe!

I'm excited for this! I want more Chlavis, more Chloom, and more Chloe watchtower!

I didnt mean that Chloe helping Davis will be OOC.....but in latest episodes she does some OOC things thanks to the writers so Im just saying that I hope that "Eternal" dosent end like "Bulletproof-Power" or "Infamous-Turbulance" where in one episode she does good things and by the next one everyone wants to bite her head :\

Davis Bloome

04-02-2009, 05:39 PM

I think it's good to see some of Chloe's darker sides and I hope she leaves with Davis which will enrage Clark for sure to fight Doomsday... I get the feeling Doomsday might kill Chloe when Davis can't handle the monster anymore, but I'm sure glad Jimmy left her.. Seriously what did she see in that guy lol

Autumn

04-02-2009, 05:41 PM

I didnt mean that Chloe helping Davis will be OOC.....but in latest episodes she does some OOC things thanks to the writers so Im just saying that I hope that "Eternal" dosent end like "Bulletproof-Power" or "Infamous-Turbulance" where in one episode she does good things and by the next one everyone wants to bite her head :\

Yeah, but I think she was completely in character for both Turbulence and Hex. I think some might just look for reasons to hate her. The only OOC moments I've seen are when she was with Jimmy and even then I think she was faking, or at least lying to herself.

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I think it's good to see some of Chloe's darker sides and I hope she leaves with Davis which will enrage Clark for sure to fight Doomsday... I get the feeling Doomsday might kill Chloe when Davis can't handle the monster anymore, but I'm sure glad Jimmy left her.. Seriously what did she see in that guy lol

I honestly don't think Dooms will kill Chloe. Though I am glad about Jimmy leaving her and the idea of Chlavis leaving together! Love your avatar.

Diego*Chloe

04-02-2009, 05:46 PM

Yeah, but I think she was completely in character for both Turbulence and Hex. I think some might just look for reasons to hate her. The only OOC moments I've seen are when she was with Jimmy and even then I think she was faking, or at least lying to herself.

:rotfl:

Im still affraid for spoilers like Stiletto and Beast she is going to hide Davis from Clark :\ and for her to do that it must happen something really important on Eternal or that would be so OOC

Davis Bloome

04-02-2009, 05:51 PM

Well there were speculations of more character to die, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Chloe and if she did die it would be by the hands of doomsday I think. But only time will tell. It's not that I don't want her to die. I definately prefer her above Lana. I liked Lana in the beginning but later the Chlana relationship just became repetative so she became a bit annoying. But anyway Chloe has to disappear some way in order for the Superman Continuety. I mean she's not in the films and although this series is not fully canon I think they would like it to be as canon as possible.

Thx for the compliment btw on my av.

SGuthrie27

04-02-2009, 10:12 PM

I really want more of the Watchtower bit and less Chloominess. I mean, I can understand her wanting to both protect Clark and try to help Davis control his inner beast (even though he himself has said he can't), but it seems to go somewhat against her proposed desire, in the last episode, to be the go-to gal for all the proto-Justice League heroes.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Pink Hurricane

04-02-2009, 10:54 PM

I want more watchtower and way less Chloomy. I'm just so over it, and while I understan why she is doing what she is doing, I'm just ready for it to be over already.

ginnyfan

04-03-2009, 12:54 AM

A Justice League episode would have flowed so nicely out of "Hex." But really Hex interrupted the whole Davis story so... it makes sense that the wouldn't want to interrupted too long as they did with the Clana arc.

Kschreck

04-03-2009, 01:18 AM

Everytime Chloe and Davis get together for anything I lose support for Chloe. Then we get episodes like Hex that make me once again regain faith in Chloe and the watchtower stuff was awesome.

I like Davis's character but I can't stand what they are doing to poor Chloe and giving her bad story arcs. She is helping a monster who tried to kill her husband and best friend. It's just not the Chloe I remember.

borednow

04-03-2009, 01:25 AM

Watch Tower

Chlavis is a freight train straight to Martyr ville...

Kschreck

04-03-2009, 01:27 AM

I am kind of confident now that Chloe will return for season nine but what I am not so confident in is whether or not her character will be damaged by the end of this season. After all of the working with Doomsday stuff, it's going to be hard to get over that for season nine. I was really excited to see her working as watchtower and reminds me of those Smallville Legends animated comic episodes. I really hope that they do this with her and not just in offscreenville (which is apparently where all the cool stuff happens these days, lol).

Davis Bloome

04-03-2009, 02:07 AM

Like I said on another thread, the fact the legion doesn't know about her makes me suspicious. Why mention that now? Doesn't that mean something is gonna happen and that she might die and that that is the reason the legion doesn't know about her?

Tess is Smokin

04-03-2009, 04:55 AM

because that was just a consolation price for her, lost her husband, lost all her dreams now thats all there's left.

BackToTheLies

04-03-2009, 05:56 AM

is it pretty conclusive that Chloe is going to die now?

She has no good purpose anymore and she threw that away within the space of a week. I'm not really debating the writing/creative direction because that's tired....just accept it for what it is. Within the universe of Smallville, Chloe now has NO real allies from what I can see, apart from her one friend/lover on the darkside.

I know Clark is a forgiving person but even he must have his limits of the bs line "I did it to protect you", when it's all going to be said and done.

More than that, she was brought into the League under Oliver when she was on the brink of nothing. Oliver himself is clearly feeling guilty/seeking redemption for his "by any means necessary" ways, and yet this week we see Chloe/Watchtower delivering the line to Clark about how she won't sign up to his code of ethics. Well then, what is the point of The Watchtower?

It's probably about time a Kryptonian started putting humans in their place. Sometimes it has to be black and white. If you're not playing your role that was gifted to you by the Last Son of Krypton then you're left out in the cold to face the consequences.....maybe even death.

Minamostaza

04-03-2009, 06:15 AM

I just love Chlavis and Watchtower, can't we have both?

Tess is Smokin

04-03-2009, 08:26 AM

I just love Chlavis and Watchtower, can't we have both?

Nope.. Chloe is basically "sleeping with the enemy"

Autumn

04-03-2009, 09:01 AM

I just love Chlavis and Watchtower, can't we have both?

I think we have both and I love it!!!!

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is it pretty conclusive that Chloe is going to die now?

She has no good purpose anymore and she threw that away within the space of a week. I'm not really debating the writing/creative direction because that's tired....just accept it for what it is. Within the universe of Smallville, Chloe now has NO real allies from what I can see, apart from her one friend/lover on the darkside.

I know Clark is a forgiving person but even he must have his limits of the bs line "I did it to protect you", when it's all going to be said and done.

More than that, she was brought into the League under Oliver when she was on the brink of nothing. Oliver himself is clearly feeling guilty/seeking redemption for his "by any means necessary" ways, and yet this week we see Chloe/Watchtower delivering the line to Clark about how she won't sign up to his code of ethics. Well then, what is the point of The Watchtower?

It's probably about time a Kryptonian started putting humans in their place. Sometimes it has to be black and white. If you're not playing your role that was gifted to you by the Last Son of Krypton then you're left out in the cold to face the consequences.....maybe even death.

Go read the Ausiello chat!!!

I love Chloe's storyline! Chlavis for season 9. :D:D

Iluvgreen

04-03-2009, 10:33 AM

I'm so mad at Chloe for having Chlavis reaction! But I can't really blame her! It's the producers!

chlo-el

04-03-2009, 10:38 AM

Nope.. Chloe is basically "sleeping with the enemy"

The enemy with know choice and tried to kill himself rather then being forced to still kill. If anything she would be sleeping w/ a guy to prevent the enemy from coming out.

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I just love Chlavis and Watchtower, can't we have both?

I think she will be. She's still Chloe in doing everything she can to help save the world.

saltyweeks

04-03-2009, 10:41 AM

Can't their be a both option. I love Chloe as watch Tower but I also love her trying to save everyone by keeping Davis away from everyone taming him and trying to find a cure for a guy who doesn't want to be a monster.

yep. what is the purpose of a secret identity if you don't have duality to your personality?

Tess is Smokin

04-03-2009, 10:44 AM

The enemy with know choice and tried to kill himself rather then being forced to still kill. If anything she would be sleeping w/ a guy to prevent the enemy from coming out.

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I think she will be. She's still Chloe in doing everything she can to help save the world.

doesn't make him any less of a enemy

Davis Bloome

04-03-2009, 11:53 AM

more a threat than an enemy imo. He's dangerous in what he is capable of but his actions as Davis I think don't label him as an enemy.

Tess is Smokin

04-03-2009, 03:25 PM

more a threat than an enemy imo. He's dangerous in what he is capable of but his actions as Davis I think don't label him as an enemy.

true that

Supsfan

04-03-2009, 03:27 PM

this episode screamed Second half stalling. We basically know enough of Davis/Doomsday up to this point and they could do the Clark/Doomsday fight but now that there is a season 9 they need to fill the remaining episodes

Hopefulsuicide

04-03-2009, 05:19 PM

It really felt like the episodes were out of order or something... to have Hex be followed by Eternal just feels weird... because nothing that was started in Hex has been followed through at all :(

Violet-Shadow

04-03-2009, 05:23 PM

It really felt like the episodes were out of order or something... to have Hex be followed by Eternal just feels weird... because nothing that was started in Hex has been followed through at all :(

IA.

To me, it seems that Chloe's career as Watchtower is already over...and it didn't even really get a chance to begin.

Davis Bloome

04-03-2009, 05:28 PM

Well the episode was a filler. I'm not entirely sure if it was meant to be before Eternal, though because of Chloe's depression you would think so, but still that could have been added later so that it would fit before Eternal... Maybe they had it planned earlier and she made the wish for another reason, though I wouldn't know why. Maybe because of her ruined marriage celebration... I dunno, I'm just making rough speculations here. But it's probably just a flaw on the writer's part.

Autumn

04-03-2009, 05:29 PM

It really felt like the episodes were out of order or something... to have Hex be followed by Eternal just feels weird... because nothing that was started in Hex has been followed through at all :(

Really? Because I saw Real Chloe back. I still feel her fire. That seemed to be the point of Hex to me. Loved that she stood up for herself!

Hopefulsuicide

04-03-2009, 05:54 PM

IA.

To me, it seems that Chloe's career as Watchtower is already over...and it didn't even really get a chance to begin.

It just feels like 'what was the point of that?'... I was SOOO excited about her being watchtower... but it looks like it's not going to happen, if she's secretly harboring a known murderer, she's not going to have much time with the JL...

Sports72Xtrm

04-04-2009, 05:35 PM

IA.

To me, it seems that Chloe's career as Watchtower is already over...and it didn't even really get a chance to begin.

Yeah I seriously don't know why she's part of the JL anymore. What has been heroic about her character lately? What is it? Isn't it the second time she has intended to kill against Clark's wishes and is now hiding another dirty secret from Clark. There's just too many skeletons in Chloe's closet and I don't know how Ollie can allow someone so untrustworthy into the team that's all about Justice when Chloe is recently taking matters into her own hands and makes decisions that just makes her look bad.:\

Lexsghost

04-04-2009, 05:35 PM

Yeah I forgot chloe was watchtower after the episode until i was on the cw site and watched the last couple episodes.

Autumn

04-04-2009, 10:10 PM

We needed another Chloomy episode because Chlavis is awesome!!

Violet-Shadow

04-04-2009, 10:12 PM

Yeah I seriously don't know why she's part of the JL anymore. What has been heroic about her character lately? What is it? Isn't it the second time she has intended to kill against Clark's wishes and is now hiding another dirty secret from Clark. There's just too many skeletons in Chloe's closet and I don't know how Ollie can allow someone so untrustworthy into the team that's all about Justice when Chloe is recently taking matters into her own hands and makes decisions that just makes her look bad.:\

This season has shown darker sides to Chloe but it seemed that she was ready to move on to being a hero in Hex, leaving those "skeletons" in the past. Then suddenly she is attempting to kill Davis then later harbors him in her basement (which I'm not saying was the wrong thing - I'm not sure what other option she felt she had - not that I necessarily agree with it but I understand Chloe's reasoning)? It just feels like that moment never happened - like Chloe never said "Watchtower online" because her judgment calls in Eternal undermine that moment, IMO. I am waiting to see how she can redeem herself and IF she can become the hero she seemed to want to be in Hex.

Autumn

04-04-2009, 10:22 PM

Chloe doesn't need to be redeemed from trying to do the right thing. Save Chlavis, save the world!!! ;)

Davis Bloome

04-04-2009, 10:24 PM

Violet-Shadow

04-04-2009, 10:29 PM

IDK if playing the martyr would redeem her. Actually, I already see her playing the martyr and it's not very redeeming at all. Her character is just growing ever darker. I thought that after Hex maybe she would go back to light and happy Chloe but it seems that Chloe is gone...

borednow

04-04-2009, 10:29 PM

It just feels like 'what was the point of that?'... I was SOOO excited about her being watchtower... but it looks like it's not going to happen, if she's secretly harboring a known murderer, she's not going to have much time with the JL...

This show is so inconsistent...

Autumn

04-04-2009, 10:31 PM

Maybe Chloe will become the hero by becoming the martyr. That way she would surely redeem herself. To a certain degree she has too imo, though I don't blame her for what she did in the end of this episode.

I don't think Chloe should ever become a martyr. I want a happy Chlavis ending. I'm rooting for Black k. I want love to win out over nature. I'm not a fan of Davis being doomed to some inner nature that he didn't choose, having no free will. It's like a backwards bad blood argument from a different time that rubs me the wrong way, like how Jane Eyre and Oliver Twist were seen as being born bad (because they're orphans) and will stay bad because it is in their blood, but in those books it showed how those views were wrong and they did overcome. Ridiculous and disturbing if Davis has no way to overcome this "bad blood" in my book, especially since the writers are playing with the orphan trope. Very disturbing. I don't blame Chloe at all for what she did. I think she made the right choice. I hope their love triumphs all.

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This show is so inconsistent...

We can't see her as watchtower in every episode.

Davis Bloome

04-04-2009, 10:33 PM

I'm sure she's happy but again to a certain degree. She's probably not happy she feels like she has to lie to Clark to protect him. Who can blame her for lying after Clark has lied so much. Lana got redeemed, well at least in Clark's opinion, and she did far worse things than Chloe. I don't know if I can tell if Lana got redeemed in my own opinion, but I guess because Clark felt she redeemed herself I just followed along. At this moment it's not like Chloe is consulting with the enemy. She's trying to stop a threat to Clark and that's still noble. Lana literally fell in love with Clark's greatest enemy. So there is a similarity, but you can't compare the two, that's for sure.

I don't think Chloe should ever become a martyr. I want a happy Chlavis ending. But you should know that's not going to happen. Davis and Chloe are star-crossed lovers...

borednow

04-04-2009, 10:36 PM

We can't see her as watchtower in every episode.
Yes but after a big "Watchtower online!" moment one would think they would have at very lest mentioned it in the next episode? Or is that just me?

Violet-Shadow

04-04-2009, 10:40 PM

Yes but after a big "Watchtower online!" moment one would think they would have at very lest mentioned it in the next episode? Or is that just me?

It wasn't just you.

Autumn

04-04-2009, 10:42 PM

But you should know that's not going to happen. Davis and Chloe are star-crossed lovers...

They're also Beauty and the Beast! And star-crossed lovers do get happy ending sometimes. Plus, you don't know it's not going to happen. I choose to root for it personally. I certainly don't believe Chloe is dying anytime soon.

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Yes but after a big "Watchtower online!" moment one would think they would have at very lest mentioned it in the next episode? Or is that just me?

A mention would have been nice I suppose, but it could have conceived as a contrived line, considering the story arcs of the episode. It just wasn't necessary IMO. I'm sure we'll get plenty more mentions in the future episodes.

SnowBird

04-04-2009, 11:48 PM

I was proud of Chloe when she became Watchtower. This episode she has slipped backwards. I hope she comes to her senses and we get the Chloe that likes to help super heroes save the world.

rebecavaldez

04-07-2009, 06:12 PM

I'm in between. I like Sam (Davis) but I'm not sure how I feel about Davis. I was a huge Chimmy fan and they destroyed that this season. I loved how the women of Smallville are independent and how they were giving Chloe a hero character, but now that they are doing this, I think they are ruining her.

sithius

04-07-2009, 06:44 PM

Why are people saying 'more chloomy'? Lol, Doomsday is the ultimate destroyer, holding no mercy, reasoning or compassion. He would rip Chloe's head clean off. He would tear her heart out with one of his hands whilst grinning at the very sight of it.

Doomsday =/= Davis. Chloe seems to calm down Davis, so the beast can't emerge, since we're finding out that the beast feeds on anger, and gives it strength allowing it to come out.

To think people actually believe Doomsday has the ability to love anyone or anything is laughable. They are different beings. Look at how his body changes. Do you not think his brain also changes? I seriously recommend that some of you go and pick up the Death of Superman. That is Doomsday. If the writers want to make a Doomsday that has the ability to love and such, then it won't be Doomsday, it will just be another lame monster.