Best/favorite character in "Eternal"

[loliverlover]

who did you like the most??

[OkiyaShuichi]

Who is the best character in ''Eternal''? :cool:

[Tompouce]

Clark, of coursehttp://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-367.gif

[costas22]

Tess!!!!!!

[Tompouce]

Euh...you forgot the drooling smiley
LOOOL, we are both crazy !

[Tompouce]

Clark (as the best character, I voted Clark too) http://www.yelims.com/IPB/Invision-Board-France-367.giflol

[costas22]

Tess!She is fanTesstic!

[Tompouce]

Tess!She is fanTesstic!
:rotfl:;)

[rick.itch]

chloe but tess and clark as second haha

[SupermanRox]

Clark

[Deana]

Tess! It was pure bliss when she blew Davis and his Drama up. I was like, "Do it Again!"

[BeldarofRemulak]

Chloe...Loved the whole range of emotions.

[Jack-El49]

Clark, of course. Tess and Chloe came in a close second.

[AgentChaos]

Chloe/Davis/Tess/Clark

Honestly, all 4 characters were equally tied for first. It's been so long since that happened. I can't rank them at all, but I voted for Chloe because I had to pick one.

[virginie]

CLark!!

[yomama]

Gotta agree with Deana--I love wicked Tess. She's so evil even when she is trying to be good and save the world, she's still evil!

Davis came second for the same reason--His argument to Chloe e.g. if you stay with me, you'll protect Clark and help control the beast within me? EVIL!

And I have to say it again--this new stronger Chloe? I like.

Can I have a threeway tie between Tess, Davis and Chloe? :)

The only person I was having a tough time with was Clark. Granted, this Clark is a HUGE improvement over the Clark of the 4 episodes that shall never be named again, but when Clark was bawling Chloe out over Davis..."Yeah, right Clark! Like you've never trusted the wrong person ever. Cough *hypocrite* cough." Still, no one became a superhero overnight. He's transitioning. I have hope.

[NinaDavis]

Clark
Tess

[rehana/chole]

gotta agree with deana--i love wicked tess. She's so evil even when she is trying to be good and save the world, she's still evil!

Davis came second for the same reason--his argument to chloe e.g. If you stay with me, you'll protect clark and help control the beast within me? Evil!

And i have to say it again--this new stronger chloe? I like.

Can i have a threeway tie between tess, davis and chloe? :)

the only person i was having a tough time with was clark. Granted, this clark is a huge improvement over the clark of the 4 episodes that shall never be named again, but when clark was bawling chloe out over davis..."yeah, right clark! Like you've never trusted the wrong person ever. Cough *hypocrite* cough." still, no one became a superhero overnight. He's transitioning. I have hope.


agree with u! U said evey i wanted too say .

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Gotta agree with Deana--I love wicked Tess. She's so evil even when she is trying to be good and save the world, she's still evil!

Davis came second for the same reason--His argument to Chloe e.g. if you stay with me, you'll protect Clark and help control the beast within me? EVIL!

And I have to say it again--this new stronger Chloe? I like.

Can I have a threeway tie between Tess, Davis and Chloe? :)

The only person I was having a tough time with was Clark. Granted, this Clark is a HUGE improvement over the Clark of the 4 episodes that shall never be named again, but when Clark was bawling Chloe out over Davis..."Yeah, right Clark! Like you've never trusted the wrong person ever. Cough *hypocrite* cough." Still, no one became a superhero overnight. He's transitioning. I have hope.

AGREE U GOT RITE .. AGREE WITH U ESPICALY THE Part where davis blackmail chole he now she wil dp any thing 2 protect clark

[BadToad]

No one that much, really. So, Clark wins by default because Tom Welling is the prettiest.

[doodie8808]

Tess and davis chloe and clark scenes bored me like always!

[Kschreck]

My vote was for Clark with Tess as second. Doomsday as third.

[saltyweeks]

Chloe...though from my loved/hated it review you could tell my heart was with Davis

[Diego*Chloe]

Chloe.

[geminis]

Even though he frustrated me some, Clark. He's the best of the bunch.

[Kryptochloe]

Chloe and Davis... absolutely..

[DavidM2]

Chloe-I thought I would hate her, but it makes sense that she is doing what she is doing to protect Clark. At least she isn't just harboring Davis because she is in love with him.

[Pink Hurricane]

Everyone did incredibly well tonight and as much as I liked Clark and Chloe, I think I have to say Tess was the best tonight. Yay for blowing up Davis! ....even though it didn't work.

[VagrantDream]

Davis.all.the way.
followed closely by Chloe.
but i really liked Clark. what a condurum.

[borednow]

Dust

Dust beat everyone, it wasn't an idiot like Chloe and Clark, it wasn't a psychotic killer who I can't even force myself to feel sorry for, like Davis, and it wasn't comparing Clark to Jesus the whole episode like Tess...

[ginnyfan]

Jimmy! Where the hell is he?! *cries*

[borednow]

Maybe little Lex or something...

flash back Martha...

[rick.itch]

was chloe a good guy in this episode... i hope so she is my fav :D

[borednow]

Chloe was an idiot with a martyr complex...

[SnowBird]

Clark!

[zHeN_zHeN]

It's tied between Davis-Chloe-Tess-Clark-and the Flaskback kids! They were all great! :D

[Cyclonekat]

I'm enjoying the Tess character more and more...so yeah, I picked Tess. :D

[isagill chlark fan]

for me chloe she brought up all the emotional stuff davis is the second clark and tess by the way it was a great episode

[ginnyfan]

Maybe little Lex or something...

flash back Martha...

Yes! Little Lex! I love him. <3

[borednow]

Warrior Angel loving Lex...

[eolhc]

i dunno, i like the Lionel's guard.. lol..im kidding btw.

CHLOE!

[amalie]

Clark

[Autumn]

Davis! But Chloe was a close second. I even liked Clark in this episode and Tess was cool too, though her Judas comparison annoyed me. It made no sense.

[FlashInSV]

Tess. I got the feeling she is completely deranged.

[mr lane]

all 4 main characters were great but here is my order

Lois (in offscreenvill and mmmm in Stilleto preview) :lol:

Clark - I loved his assertiveness when he stormed into Tess' office wanting her to print his story and asking why no one cared. I also liked the emotion he felt in wanting to help Davis and realizing that there was something there between Davis and Chloe that was a little heart breaking. And the barn scene with Tess. Usually when someone confronts him about his secret he kind of acts like a little boy trying to lie out of being caught with his hands in the cookie jar but this time again he was more assertive.

Tess - We finally got to see her acting skills a little more this episode and she was great at coming off evil but with good intentions, a la Lex but more hands on.

Chloe - Finally a glimpse at the old Chloe I used to know. We see where she totally stays loyal to Clark despite her emotions for Davis. You could really see the inner turmoil she was fighting when having to decide if she could kill Davis but once Davis became a threat she pulled the lever without a second thought to save Clark.

Davis - Great all around. Seeing Davis trying to fight his inner nature made me feel sad for the guy, like Clark all he wants to be is normal but unlike Clark he has no choice on who he is destined to be. Even though the whole Chlavis thing wigs me out when he confessed to Chloe that he loved her and if she didn't love him he had no reason to try and fight well I gotta say my heart did a little twist.

[Showmaster]

Davis

[Smallville Vamp]

Clark then Tess, I could care less about Davis or Chloe at this point.

[Iluvgreen]

Tess was so friggin sweat! I'm angry that I haven't voted for Chloe alot this season... because she's one of my favorite characters!!!! I've only voted for her for like 3 episodes this season. And I'm kinda starting to get angry with her now, because of this episode.

[Davis Bloome]

With all respect, but you can only vote for Clark because of hormones if you think he was the strongest character. Even Chloe was a stronger character than Clark. But Davis' character was the strongest certainly in the scene where he's "dying" in the krypto cell.

[BadToad]

With all respect, but you can only vote for Clark because of hormones if you think he was the strongest character.

There is no respect in that comment at all.

Maybe people just have a different perspective then you.

[Davis Bloome]

I don't expect people to have the same opinion as me, but Clark? Common there have been countless episodes where Clark has had the strongest performance, and it was still good for what it was. But first of all it was very short and in the time that he had he didn't do that much important. This episode was more about Chloe, Davis and Tess and they had the best performance.

[BadToad]

This episode was more about Chloe, Davis and Tess and they had the best performance.

Again, that is just your opinion, and one obviously not everyone shares. You don't have to agree with them, but there's no need to cut down, or belittle their opinion either by dismissing it as "hormones".

Personally, I don't give a hang about Davis, and I didn't like Chloe in this episode at all. Just my perspective, but I see no reason to put down the opinions of people who don't agree with me.

[Dustmite]

Chloe...though from my loved/hated it review you could tell my heart was with Davis

I love your icon :)

[Alania]

all 4 main characters were great but here is my order

Lois (in offscreenvill and mmmm in Stilleto preview) :lol:

Clark - I loved his assertiveness when he stormed into Tess' office wanting her to print his story and asking why no one cared. I also liked the emotion he felt in wanting to help Davis and realizing that there was something there between Davis and Chloe that was a little heart breaking. And the barn scene with Tess. Usually when someone confronts him about his secret he kind of acts like a little boy trying to lie out of being caught with his hands in the cookie jar but this time again he was more assertive.

Tess - We finally got to see her acting skills a little more this episode and she was great at coming off evil but with good intentions, a la Lex but more hands on.

Chloe - Finally a glimpse at the old Chloe I used to know. We see where she totally stays loyal to Clark despite her emotions for Davis. You could really see the inner turmoil she was fighting when having to decide if she could kill Davis but once Davis became a threat she pulled the lever without a second thought to save Clark.

Davis - Great all around. Seeing Davis trying to fight his inner nature made me feel sad for the guy, like Clark all he wants to be is normal but unlike Clark he has no choice on who he is destined to be. Even though the whole Chlavis thing wigs me out when he confessed to Chloe that he loved her and if she didn't love him he had no reason to try and fight well I gotta say my heart did a little twist.

I'm with that list all the way, especially the bolded part!:D

[Davis Bloome]

Again, that is just your opinion, and one obviously not everyone shares. You don't have to agree with them, but there's no need to cut down, or belittle their opinion either by dismissing it as "hormones".

Personally, I don't give a hang about Davis, and I didn't like Chloe in this episode at all. Just my perspective, but I see no reason to put down the opinions of people who don't agree with me.
No need to take what I said too serious. I'm a very sarcastic, maybe too sarcastic for my own good lol. Anyway I can understand if people vote for Clark if they just don't like the other characters, but that would be totally biased. I am not saying I'm totally unbiased either. To be unbiased I would say either Tess Chloe or Davis had the best performances in this episode. But for biased reasons I chose for Davis.

[mr lane]

I'm with that list all the way, especially the bolded part!:D

:D great minds think alike!

[marcella]

Clark

[Hopefulsuicide]

I didn't like any of them... Davis was the least irritating though :(

[Inkpen23]

Davis.

Davis was the most interesting one of them all. He intrigued me the most and I could sympathize with him. Everyone else except for Clark was ok. Clark was his usual clueless, insensitive, smug, hypocritical, self absorbed self. Oh, and he's still the same idiot blaming himself for everything under the moon he has no control over. :rolleyes:http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABYAAAAUCAYAAAC JfM0wAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAAlwSFlzAAAK8AAACvABQ qw0mAAAAB90RVh0U29mdHdhcmUATWFjcm9tZWRpYSBGaXJld29 ya3MgOLVo0ngAAAAWdEVYdENyZWF0aW9uIFRpbWUAMDQvMDQvM DhrK9wWAAACMElEQVQ4ja3SP2gTcRQH8O8vvUtIGmkqTY3SaMV Fz6KDW2ywg4s4dGgXp3SyVLIIthCKQxCCuoZaXaSO/ilKd4sSdXRL0EWtIRYaSkXsJTH33utwSZM01xo0D353v+N+97l 33/upQCAwFgwGfehiFYtFUxsYGPCmUqmv3YQTicSwBgCapnXTBQBo Sinout5VVCnVDr/44B/OZH0xs6KMThCfR3LRs+aTycjvbwfCmawvduZkn7EwN4TBfheY9 0fXN6uYuffdyGQRu3apkmyDmzM2K8pYmBvC6kcLK+/KMEsWLCIQMSyLULUIFhH0HsGNycNYnDuO6PRno9lQSsFVh+tDQ SEY6MHymzJKFQILgxkgYhALmBnMDLNsIf1sA8cG3VDYYzhFAWW fRBjCAiIbIxYQE1ga17+2GSICKLQYznCtiATEDK6BIrU5MUhgd 0+NH+AIt+5jshdqgkpVwEwNkBgs9lyE4XY3nnLMWNf13QEAG1u E2JVe9PUC5JCvCMPrVpifOor1YnW34/pw7NjvVbmZ+3ljcTaMq5EjbRFJ07Gw8QfTd9fg96rc3o7bMh4f 9SytvDenLl7/ZADAl5cjWF7dwmy60PaSeiPjo56lv2Ycnzi0Fp9AEgAu39x8+u rtT9x5/GP74a2++LlTuumo76kDd4W9ALj9qIDIiOfBhdO+jtB9O279TFc uet77fD7Wn+sU7ajj1+kTSccb/wv/aymloEKh0Fg4HPZ2E87n86Udvs4FoWqwSHUAAAAASUVORK5CYI I=

[Jaderoyale]

Clark.

[skira]

I didn't like any of them... Davis was the least irritating though :(


Yeah.

[borednow]

I didn't like any of them... Davis was the least irritating though :(

Really? I thought Davis emo act got out of control on this one... Clark was less annoying then him but probably only due to his limited screen time. :lol:

[xrayvision]

CK.

[Tompouce]

Davis.

Davis was the most interesting one of them all. He intrigued me the most and I could sympathize with him. Everyone else except for Clark was ok. Clark was his usual clueless, insensitive, smug, hypocritical, self absorbed self. Oh, and he's still the same idiot blaming himself for everything under the moon he has no control over. :rolleyes:http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABYAAAAUCAYAAAC JfM0wAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAAlwSFlzAAAK8AAACvABQ qw0mAAAAB90RVh0U29mdHdhcmUATWFjcm9tZWRpYSBGaXJld29 ya3MgOLVo0ngAAAAWdEVYdENyZWF0aW9uIFRpbWUAMDQvMDQvM DhrK9wWAAACMElEQVQ4ja3SP2gTcRQH8O8vvUtIGmkqTY3SaMV Fz6KDW2ywg4s4dGgXp3SyVLIIthCKQxCCuoZaXaSO/ilKd4sSdXRL0EWtIRYaSkXsJTH33utwSZM01xo0D353v+N+97l 33/upQCAwFgwGfehiFYtFUxsYGPCmUqmv3YQTicSwBgCapnXTBQBo Sinout5VVCnVDr/44B/OZH0xs6KMThCfR3LRs+aTycjvbwfCmawvduZkn7EwN4TBfheY9 0fXN6uYuffdyGQRu3apkmyDmzM2K8pYmBvC6kcLK+/KMEsWLCIQMSyLULUIFhH0HsGNycNYnDuO6PRno9lQSsFVh+tDQ SEY6MHymzJKFQILgxkgYhALmBnMDLNsIf1sA8cG3VDYYzhFAWW fRBjCAiIbIxYQE1ga17+2GSICKLQYznCtiATEDK6BIrU5MUhgd 0+NH+AIt+5jshdqgkpVwEwNkBgs9lyE4XY3nnLMWNf13QEAG1u E2JVe9PUC5JCvCMPrVpifOor1YnW34/pw7NjvVbmZ+3ljcTaMq5EjbRFJ07Gw8QfTd9fg96rc3o7bMh4f 9SytvDenLl7/ZADAl5cjWF7dwmy60PaSeiPjo56lv2Ycnzi0Fp9AEgAu39x8+u rtT9x5/GP74a2++LlTuumo76kDd4W9ALj9qIDIiOfBhdO+jtB9O279TFc uet77fD7Wn+sU7ajj1+kTSccb/wv/aymloEKh0Fg4HPZ2E87n86Udvs4FoWqwSHUAAAAASUVORK5CYI I=
Are you kidding ? Smug ? Clark ? Insensitive ? Clark ? Hypocritical ? Clark ? Sef absorbed ? Clark ?
We don't watch the same show:D;)

[smallvillerocks45]

Are you kidding ? Smug ? Clark ? Insensitive ? Clark ? Hypocritical ? Clark ? Sef absorbed ? Clark ?
We don't watch the same show:D;)

I completely agree with you. Clark was probably the most compassionate I've ever seen him with regard to his interaction with Davis.

... and in terms of his behavior with Tess, he was frustrated and needed to protect himself. No one else holds back when they talk to down to him - I think it's perfectly reasonable for Clark to want to hold his ground and not let people run all over him in return.

[xrayvision]

I completely agree with you. Clark was probably the most compassionate I've ever seen him with regard to his interaction with Davis.

... and in terms of his behavior with Tess, he was frustrated and needed to protect himself. No one else holds back when they talk to down to him - I think it's perfectly reasonable for Clark to want to hold his ground and not let people run all over him in return.

I thought he was very nice to Davis, especially since it wasn't his fault that Davis was made as an experiment of atrocity by Zod & Faora. I wanted to see him more vocal and put Tess in her place. I wanted him to tell her that her fate will be similar to Lex's if she didn't stop. And better yet, I wanted him to open his mouth and say:

"Guess what Tess, you got it all wrong. The starblade showed who the 2-headed creature really is and it's Lex. You can believe him to be dead, but if you do, it's your funeral."

This would have shown Tess further as a fanatic and Clark as someone who gives stern & confident warnings against those who are committing acts of aggression.

[Tompouce]

I completely agree with you. Clark was probably the most compassionate I've ever seen him with regard to his interaction with Davis.

... and in terms of his behavior with Tess, he was frustrated and needed to protect himself. No one else holds back when they talk to down to him - I think it's perfectly reasonable for Clark to want to hold his ground and not let people run all over him in return.
Thanks. Clark has deep heart and soul, it is a constant, that is why he is OUR hero;)

[luthorian]

Davis

[Inkpen23]

Are you kidding ?Does it look like I'm kidding? :rolleyes:


Smug ?Did you see Clark's smug behavior towards Chloe for not realizing the truth about Davis earlier?


Clark ? Insensitive ?Clark's insensitive remarks towards Chloe at the Talon when she told him she needed a strong shoulder to lean on ring a bell to you?


Clark ? Hypocritical ? Clark ?Clark's hypocritical remarks towards Chloe at the Talon about Davis being a mass murder this week when last week he thought Jimmy went overboard in accusing Davis of murder. And his comments to Chloe about her moving on to fast with Davis. Clark of all people has no right to say that to Chloe when just four episodes earlier he was having bed breaking sex with Lana and now he's goo goo eyeing Lois and apparently is spending a lot of time with her in offscreenville. Clark shouldn't have any say in whether or not Chloe is moving on to fast from her marriage given his track record.


Sef absorbed ? Clark ?Clark blaming himself for what has happened to Davis comes to mind. It's just another incident of Clark going on his guilt trip and making everything about him. He had nothing to do with what had happened to Davis so why in Zod's name does this idiot continue to blame himself for things he has no control over? The answer? It's because he's a self-absorbed person and he always has to make the issue about him while disregarding what other people are going through.


We don't watch the same show:D;)Of, course we do, or least I'm assuming we do. I'm just not a Clark apologist so I can be objective about him and criticize him. I criticize Chloe too and she's my favorite character on the show.

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[Tompouce]

Does it look like I'm kidding? :rolleyes:

Did you see Clark's smug behavior towards Chloe for not realizing the truth about Davis earlier?
It was not a smug behavior. It was so obvious something was wrong. We all know Chloe was in denial (it is exactly what she answered to Clark). Chloe who is clever, sensitive,...not knowing there was a risky situation behind Davis's behaviour. Clark just says it and at this moment, he was not smug but angry, he told her this because the situation became an emergency.
Clark's insensitive remarks towards Chloe at the Talon when she told him she needed a strong shoulder to lean on ring a bell to you?
But this is Chloe who is totally unfair with Clark. Who didn't speak to her best friend in "Turbulence" when things were so bads ? Clark spent his time to ask how was Jimmy and all and she simply refused to speak about the situation with him. She avoided to say something.
Who was the man who spoke to her after her birthday during a friendly breakfast in "Hex" saying "are we speaking about me or Jimmy and you ?". It doesn't sound to me like someone who is insentive. He cares for her. He is with her. She chooses to not see it. It is different
Clark's hypocritical remarks towards Chloe at the Talon about Davis being a mass murder this week when last week he thought Jimmy went overboard in accusing Davis of murder. And his comments to Chloe about her moving on to fast with Davis. Clark of all people has no right to say that to Chloe when just four episodes earlier he was having bed breaking sex with Lana and now he's goo goo eyeing Lois and apparently is spending a lot of time with her in offscreenville. Clark shouldn't have any say in whether or not Chloe is moving on to fast from her marriage given his track record.
You are right he didn't say Jimmy was right (but at this moment, he didn't have facts )but remember Clark never trusts Davis. It is a constant in season 8. He was always suspicious even if he didn't have all the clues Chloe had. I think that is what he meant.
Clark is not moving so fast (and remember this Lana arc is all but not Clark's fault for once lol !). He was not married to a woman and at the same time thinking of another one. Chloe felt already something for Davis at her wedding. And she didn't try a lot to fix the problem with Jimmy. Sending mails ? Come on ! When it is supposed to be the love of your life ? And if Clark spend a lot of time with Lois (which is true)he doesn't have dinner or ambiguous "tête à tête" with her. Remember "infamous", even a coffee was too much for him because he knows it would be seen as a love sign. Another difference

Clark blaming himself for what has happened to Davis comes to mind. It's just another incident of Clark going on his guilt trip and making everything about him. He had nothing to do with what had happened to Davis so why in Zod's name does this idiot continue to blame himself for things he has no control over? The answer? It's because he's a self-absorbed person and he always has to make the issue about him while disregarding what other people are going through.
It is unfair. Clark cares for Davis. He said it. And even if it is Zod who did this to Davis, it is because there was the Clark's ship, he came to Earth. And he came to Earth with what purpose ? Killing Clark. So I don't find this totally self absorbed.

Of, course we do, or least I'm assuming we do. I'm just not a Clark apologist so I can be objective about him and criticize him. I criticize Chloe too and she's my favorite character on the show.

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I know we can be objective with all characters but to me, Clark is always a kind of target. All is wrong because of him. It is unfair;)
Sorry, I don't know how to put my answers between your own posts so I put them in very black italic (I don't the right word in english sorry !)

[Davis Bloome]

It was not a smug behavior. It was so obvious something was wrong. We all know Chloe was in denial (it is exactly what she answered to Clark). Chloe who is clever, sensitive,...not knowing there was a risky situation behind Davis's behaviour. Clark just says it and at this moment, he was not smug but angry, he told her this because the situation became an emergency.
I agree, I didn't see it as smug behaviour either.

But this is Chloe who is totally unfair with Clark. Who didn't speak to her best friend in "Turbulence" when things were so bads ? Clark spent his time to ask how was Jimmy and all and she simply refused to speak about the situation with him. She avoided to say something.
Who was the man who spoke to her after her birthday during a friendly breakfast in "Hex" saying "are we speaking about me or Jimmy and you ?". It doesn't sound to me like someone who is insentive. He cares for her. He is with her. She chooses to not see it. It is differentIn general I don't think Clark is insensitive, however he can be if his work becomes his priority. His concern for safety of his friends and all other people can make him insensitive, cause I thought he was both hypocritical and insensitive in the Talon too. Chloe refused to say something. But isn't that her right. It's about her privacy here.

You are right he didn't say Jimmy was right (but at this moment, he didn't have facts )but remember Clark never trusts Davis. It is a constant in season 8. He was always suspicious even if he didn't have all the clues Chloe had. I think that is what he meant.
Clark is not moving so fast (and remember this Lana arc is all but not Clark's fault for once lol !). He was not married to a woman and at the same time thinking of another one. Chloe felt already something for Davis at her wedding. And she didn't try a lot to fix the problem with Jimmy. Sending mails ? Come on ! When it is supposed to be the love of your life ? And if Clark spend a lot of time with Lois (which is true)he doesn't have dinner or ambiguous "tête à tête" with her. Remember "infamous", even a coffee was too much for him because he knows it would be seen as a love sign. Another difference
Hmmm, still Clark was supposedly over Lana because she was out of sight and started to show interest in Lois very heavily. However when Lana steps back in his life he forgets about Lois almost completely. "Who's Lois Lane... Ah yes her. Well sorry I got Lana back, so she can rot away" (exaggerated I know lol) While Chloe made the mistake of marrying a man she wasn't sure she was in love with. Even before the wedding there were signs of affection between Chloe and Davis, but she lied to herself about her feeling for Jimmy. She hoped she would get over Davis and married Jimmy anyway cause no doubt she loves or should I say loved him. However we can't say Chloe is making no attempts to fix it. What attempts has Jimmy made. He's constantly paranoid over Chloe and the only thing he could truly be paranoid over is Davis, but he was even paranoid over Clark based on very little evidence, an ancient love letter. So it's not like Jimmy was trying very hard either. Did he at least give her a chance to fix it? No she should stay away, stop e-mailing. Well you know what he said. He's so merciful, isn't he? So who is actually trying here, Chloe or Jimmy. Certainly not the latter...

It is unfair. Clark cares for Davis. He said it. And even if it is Zod who did this to Davis, it is because there was the Clark's ship, he came to Earth. And he came to Earth with what purpose ? Killing Clark. So I don't find this totally self absorbed.
Self-absorbed is a big word, but man, it get on your nerves sometimes how he blames himself for everything. He had nothing to do with Davis before he started to know him. So how can he consider himself responsible. No doubt does he find it tragic what happened to Davis and hoped it would have turned out otherwise for him. Though at that scene where he blames himself for what happened to Davis I thought he was being hypocrite again. He's yelling out "Davis don't be a martyr!" And how many times has Clark been playing the martyr?

Overall of course Clark stays a very good and nice man, but he has his flaws from time to time such as the ones mentionned above. But hey we are all flawed...

[BadToad]

Did you see Clark's smug behavior towards Chloe for not realizing the truth about Davis earlier?

I didn't see "smug". I saw angry, and rightfully so.


Clark's insensitive remarks towards Chloe at the Talon when she told him she needed a strong shoulder to lean on ring a bell to you?

I've seen Clark ask Chloe how she was, I saw Clark ask how things were going with Jimmy (to which she flat out LIED to him), I saw Clark buy Chloe a very thoughtful gift. I saw Clark come to Chloe's apartment to check on how she's doing, and bring her breakfast, and definitely open the floor for conversation.

If Chloe chooses not to avail herself of Clark's overtures, then thats her freaking problem, not Clark's. Chloe is leaning on Davis because she wants to, and because she's attracted to him. Her snippy comments are, IMO, unwarranted.


Clark's hypocritical remarks towards Chloe at the Talon about Davis being a mass murder this week when last week he thought Jimmy went overboard in accusing Davis of murder.

Except Clark did not have the information that Chloe did, like black-outs and dark sides. So, not hypocritical.


Clark shouldn't have any say in whether or not Chloe is moving on to fast from her marriage given his track record.

I thought Clark's comments were more rooted in the fact that he has a bad feeling about Davis (well-founded), and thats why he was troubled by Chloe seemingly moving right on with Davis.


Clark blaming himself for what has happened to Davis comes to mind. It's just another incident of Clark going on his guilt trip and making everything about him.

And why wouldn't he, when he had just found out from Tess that Lionel had found Davis, then threw him out because of Clark. Of course thats going to trigger Clark's overly-active guilt complex. I don't see that as self-absorption though.


Of, course we do, or least I'm assuming we do. I'm just not a Clark apologist so I can be objective about him and criticize him. I criticize Chloe too and she's my favorite character on the show.

Someone seeing something from Clark's POV doesn't make them an "apologist". And disliking the character certainly doesn't make you anymore "objective".

[Tompouce]

BadToad, I see we totally agree :D;)

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Overall of course Clark stays a very good and nice man, but he has his flaws from time to time such as the ones mentionned above. But hey we are all flawed...
Thanks, I like thinking Clark can have flaws even if he is meant to be a hero. Each time, he is doing something wrong (or supposed to be wrong, it depends on how you see the situation), people are very hard with him. He was raised by humans, he has right to be wrong sometimes. I don't see the problem. As long as he tries to be better and better and this is what he is doing constantly, I find it good. Clark, OUR HERO:D

[Davis Bloome]

I've seen Clark ask Chloe how she was, I saw Clark ask how things were going with Jimmy (to which she flat out LIED to him), I saw Clark buy Chloe a very thoughtful gift. I saw Clark come to Chloe's apartment to check on how she's doing, and bring her breakfast, and definitely open the floor for conversation.
Yes Chloe lied, but it's not like Clark never lied before either is it. He lies for good reasons, Chloe thinks she's lying for a good reason too and you can't blame her. She's trying to protect a friend, exactly the reason why Clark lies so much. Also Clark is impolite in his approach often. I mean when he was at the Talon he was already giving her an angry look, being too judgemental imo and as I said in my previous post, a bit hypocrite.


I thought Clark's comments were more rooted in the fact that he has a bad feeling about Davis (well-founded), and thats why he was troubled by Chloe seemingly moving right on with Davis. Imo it seems both bothered Clark, meaning Clark was thinking she got over Jimmy too fast and she's already with another man who he doesn't trust. But again it's not his place to say these things, it's her life and she can choose what she wants to do with it.


And why wouldn't he, when he had just found out from Tess that Lionel had found Davis, then threw him out because of Clark. Of course thats going to trigger Clark's overly-active guilt complex. I don't see that as self-absorption though.
Agreed, it is an annoying complex Clark is stuck with but it's not self-absorption.


Someone seeing something from Clark's POV doesn't make them an "apologist". And disliking the character certainly doesn't make you anymore "objective". Well I'm more of a Davis fan lol (obvious, no?) So I'm not sure if you could consider me objective in the matter. I'm not going to claim I am, cause as I'm a fan of Davis, I probably approve the relationship with Chloe yaddayaddayadda... So I'm just throwing in my two cents here. But believe it or not I'm as much a Chloe fan as a Clark fan. At first I was especially a Clark fan. It's just that in recent terms Chloe became more interesting to me. But I wouldn't say more interesting than Clark...

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I have to pick Davis. He is giving Clark a run for his money this year!

[alejandrita439]

my favorite character was clark :D

[SnowBird]

Thanks Tompouce and Badtoad for your excellent posts for Clark. I agree with you as well. Good to see Clark in the lead showing he is the Best:)

[Inkpen23]

I didn't see "smug". I saw angry, and rightfully so.Of course you wouldn't , but whatever. :rolleyes: And his behavior wasn't justified given the fact that Davis was cleared from his allegations of murder in PREY.


I've seen Clark ask Chloe how she was I saw Clark ask how things were going with Jimmy (to which she flat out LIED to him)We must be watching two different shows (but that's not surprising considering the source) because I haven't seen Clark ask Chloe how she's been doing. I've seen Clark ask Chloe why she hadn't opened up to him sooner about everything after he had found out she was going through a lot because she was FORCED to tell him. He never bothered to ask her before then how she was coping with everything, even though by that point it should have been obvious to him she was dealing with a lot, since he had seen her go through much hardship several months prior. I also didn't see Clark ask Chloe how things were going between her and Jimmy. I saw Clark comment that he wasn't aware of Jimmy's release date from the hospital and ask how Jimmy was doing, but he didn't ask Chloe how things were going between her and Jimmy. Chloe gave that information freely. Clark didn't ask for it. Granted it was a lie but that's besides the point.


I saw Clark buy Chloe a very thoughtful gift. I saw Clark come to Chloe's apartment to check on how she's doing, and bring her breakfast, and definitely open the floor for conversation.Finally, we agree on something. Maybe we aren't watching two different shows after all. :) You're right I did see Clark buy Chloe a thoughtful gift, and go to her apartment with bagels and coffee for breakfast to make up for missing her party the night before. That wasn't necessary because Chloe understood why he couldn't make it to her party. No one was upset with Clark for missing Chloe's party. He had good reasons for not being at her party. My issue with Clark has nothing to do with him missing Chloe's party. My issue with Clark is him not calling Chloe on her birthday when he took time to answer six phone calls from Lois. He didn't apologize for not calling Chloe on her birthday. He made up for missing her party, which again wasn't necessary, but he never apologized for not calling her on her birthday. It gives off the impression he doesn't care about Chloe. I would think given all that Chloe has gone through over the last several months that Clark has beared witness to he would at least call his BFF on her birthday and wish her a happy birthday to let her know he's thinking about her and that he wished he could be there with her given he had time to answer six phone calls from Lois, but hey that's just me.

That's what friends are for. They're there for each other, and a 2 second call from Clark wishing Chloe a happy birthday would have went a long way in showing him being there for her when everyone else in her life at the time bailed on her.


If Chloe chooses not to avail herself of Clark's overtures, then thats her freaking problem, not Clark's. Chloe is leaning on Davis because she wants to, and because she's attracted to him. Her snippy comments are, IMO, unwarranted.Then Clark shouldn't be upset with Chloe. If he chooses not to be there for her when she needs him then he shouldn't get agitated with Chloe for confiding in Davis when he chose not to be there for her. If it's Chloe's freaking problem then Clark should mind his own business and keep his nose out of Chloe's life. Her snippy comments were warranted IMO since Clark didn't bother to be there for her before so he shouldn't be surprise when she chooses to confide in someone else that gives her the attention she needs.


Except Clark did not have the information that Chloe did, like black-outs and dark sides. So, not hypocritical.Except that was all before he was cleared of the murder allegations. Chloe had no reasons to suspect Davis was a killer after he was cleared of the murder allegations in PREY, and up until this point Clark didn't suspect him either and he said that last week when he said Jimmy went overboard in accusing Davis of murder but now all of sudden this week Clark has a bad feeling about the guy. Can you say hypocrite?


I thought Clark's comments were more rooted in the fact that he has a bad feeling about Davis (well-founded), and thats why he was troubled by Chloe seemingly moving right on with Davis.And what does that have to do with Clark assuming Chloe is moving to fast with Davis? Clark didn't think Chloe was moving to fast with Davis because he had a bad feeling about Davis. Regardless of his issues with Chloe moving on with Davis he still thought she was moving to fast with him. Clark having a bad feeling about Davis isn't the issue here. The issue is Clark saying Chloe is moving to fast with Davis when he has no right to say that given his own relationships.


And why wouldn't he, when he had just found out from Tess that Lionel had found Davis, then threw him out because of Clark.Because he had nothing to do with that and Davis' hard life wasn't a result of him being thrown out by Lionel for Clark or him not having a home, which Clark isn't responsible for. That's Clark again putting his spin on things and taking blame for things he has no control over. If he had stopped and listened to Davis he would have understood why Davis wanted to kill himself. It had nothing to do with Lionel throwing him out for Clark or him moving from foster home to foster home. Davis would have had a hard life whether he was raised by good parents, like Clark was, or ruthless villains like the Luthors. But no Clark couldn't give Davis a chance to explain himself. Clark was acting like his usual self absorbed self and tried to make the issue about him. Whenever Clark blames himself for things he has no control over its always about him and not the other person.


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I don't have the time or the patience to respond to each one of your points. Just read the post I posted to BadToad and take that as my response. :p

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[Chloe Bloome]

Clark is too goody goody for my taste, but I still like him, however in this instance I voted for Davis. His character made me want to keep watching.

[Davis Bloom]

Davis Bloom

[Minamostaza]

Chloe and Davis. They were fantastic.

[Tompouce]

Welcome Davis Bloom, it seems you are the second one here to have this name (and the third one if we think of the Davis character:D)

[Davis Bloome]

But I'm glad I got it spelled right:D

[SnowBird]

Then Clark shouldn't be upset with Chloe. If he chooses not to be there for her when she needs him then he shouldn't get agitated with Chloe for confiding in Davis when he chose not to be there for her. If it's Chloe's freaking problem then Clark should mind his own business and keep his nose out of Chloe's life. Her snippy comments were warranted IMO since Clark didn't bother to be there for her before so he shouldn't be surprise when she chooses to confide in someone else that gives her the attention she needs.

Clark has always been there for Chloe when it counted the most. Maybe it has slipped your mind that Clark was directly responsible for saving Chloe's life when the Legion wanted to kill her. I guess Clark should have minded his own business and kept his nose out of Chloe's life and then we wouldn't be here discussing why Clark didn't call Chloe on her birthday because she wouldn't have a birthday to celebrate.

Actually what would have been the best thing for Chloe to do is go to cousin Lois for support. Pick up the phone and say, "Lois, I'm really having a rough time with my breakup with Jimmy. Would you mind coming over for lunch and have some girl talk?" Instead she runs to Davis who has one thing on his mind and it doesn't include standing upright to pour her heart out how Jimmy was just so mean to her, RUBBISH! Chloe isn't exactly thinking in an upright position either so don't cut down Clark to justify why Chloe prefers crying on Davis shoulder to anyone elses. Chloe has a mind of her own and did exactly what she wanted. If you want to blame Clark for everything Chloe, that just makes her look helpless and we know Chloe is smarter than that.

[Kalista]

Clark has always been there for Chloe when it counted the most. Maybe it has slipped your mind that Clark was directly responsible for saving Chloe's life when the Legion wanted to kill her. I guess Clark should have minded his own business and kept his nose out of Chloe's life and then we wouldn't be here discussing why Clark didn't call Chloe on her birthday because she wouldn't have a birthday to celebrate.

Clark is always there to save Chloe physically but he is not always as emotionally supportive as he can be. Does that mean that he has never comforted Chloe? No. I can think of about dozen situations where he Clark consoled Chloe.

Well, if Clark didn't pull Chloe out of the ground in Obscura or catch her when she was thrown off the bridge in Dichotic we wouldn't be talking about Clark not calling her because she would be dead.

If Chloe minded her business in Commencement or Solitude then we certainly would be here discussing why he didn't call Chloe on her birthday because he would most likely be dead. Seriously, they have saved each other so many times that it can't be used to argue in favor of one or the other.


Actually what would have been the best thing for Chloe to do is go to cousin Lois for support. Pick up the phone and say, "Lois, I'm really having a rough time with my breakup with Jimmy. Would you mind coming over for lunch and have some girl talk?"

The writers aren't interested in Chloe leaning on her cousin for support. So I really don't consider this to be an option. Clark is in the best position to comfort and support Chloe because she doesn't have to hide aspects of her problems for fear of revealing his secret. They can talk openly like no other characters on the show can.


Chloe isn't exactly thinking in an upright position either so don't cut down Clark to justify why Chloe prefers crying on Davis shoulder to anyone elses.

That is your perception of Chloe's motives. I didn't see Chloe throwing herself at Davis. If she wanted to jump in the bed with him then Davis would be more than willing. Really, Chloe's comment to Clark about leaning on Davis was her way of letting Clark know that she's feels alone and vulnerable and could use some emotional support. Could she come right out and express her feelings? Yes. But do people always do that? No. It's realistic.

Friends have issues like that all the time where on occasion one feels that the other could be more supportive. Problems like this make the feel genuine and realistic and that's part of their appeal.

[Tompouce]

But I'm glad I got it spelled right:D
Lol, that's it ! I was searching the difference ! Because we can't have the same username as someone else. Thank you, Bloom without E for the "second one" (or third one, if you take Sam Witner :D)

[BadToad]

And his behavior wasn't justified given the fact that Davis was cleared from his allegations of murder in PREY.

But clearly Clark still had his suspicions, hence his commenting on the photo's in the locker, and his disappearances.


We must be watching two different shows (but that's not surprising considering the source)

Oh, no doubt. I don't watch ChloeVille. :lol:


I've seen Clark ask Chloe why she hadn't opened up to him sooner about everything after he had found out she was going through a lot because she was FORCED to tell him.

And why should she be forced to tell him? Why is it that Chloe is incapable of opening up to her best friend if she feels she needs a shoulder? Why is it that Clark needs to force this out of her, and how it that his problem? Its clear to me that Clark would be there if Chloe wanted to spill on her feelings. Of that I have no doubt. If she chooses to keep things bottled up, or instead turn to Davis, I believe that says far more about Chloe then Clark.

You see him as a bad friend, I do not. Its really as simple as that.


Clark didn't ask for it. Granted it was a lie but that's besides the point.

It is? Why? Clark is giving her an opening to share things with him, and Chloe instead lies. How is that beside the point, or Clark's fault?


My issue with Clark is him not calling Chloe on her birthday when he took time to answer six phone calls from Lois. He didn't apologize for not calling Chloe on her birthday. He made up for missing her party, which again wasn't necessary, but he never apologized for not calling her on her birthday. It gives off the impression he doesn't care about Chloe.

Not to me it doesn't. If Clark didn't care about Chloe he wouldn't have bought her the thoughtful present, or showed up at her apartment the next day with coffee and bagels, or made sure to thank her for what she did for him. I don't know why the not calling negates everything else, and why the thoughtful things he did for are all outweighed by him not calling. Should Clark have called her too, as he answered Lois' phone calls (and note, that was HER calling HIM)? Sure. But I don't think that one inaction negates the other things he did.


That's what friends are for. They're there for each other, and a 2 second call from Clark wishing Chloe a happy birthday would have went a long way in showing him being there for her when everyone else in her life at the time bailed on her.

I saw Chloe at a party full of people. Lois got called away, but was obviously at the party. Oliver was also at the party and got called away (something Clark wouldn't necessarily have even been aware of). As far as Clark would know, Chloe was not alone. And she wasn't alone.


Then Clark shouldn't be upset with Chloe. If he chooses not to be there for her when she needs him then he shouldn't get agitated with Chloe for confiding in Davis when he chose not to be there for her.

Except he is there, and available to her. She just chooses not to confide in him.


Chloe had no reasons to suspect Davis was a killer after he was cleared of the murder allegations in PREY, and up until this point Clark didn't suspect him either and he said that last week when he said Jimmy went overboard in accusing Davis of murder but now all of sudden this week Clark has a bad feeling about the guy. Can you say hypocrite?

I can say it, but it doesn't apply here, IMO. Listen to the excuses Chloe made for herself about Davis. "low blood sugar"? Come on, as a Chloe fan, don't you think she's smarter and more curious then that? I know I do. And Clark clearly stated that he stated to Chloe his reservations about Davis, and she came down on him for it.


And what does that have to do with Clark assuming Chloe is moving to fast with Davis?

Because, IMO, what is bothering him most about it is the fact that he's got a bad feeling about Davis. YMMV


Well, if that's the case, which I don't buy it, then liking the character doesn't make you objective either.

I am not the poster that claimed people were "apologists", or am I the poster that claimed they were "objective". That was your post, not mine.


Before making assumptions about people you don't know, which is rude by the way, maybe you should get your facts straight first.

You mean like callling someone an "apologist"? Is that not making an assumption about someone you don't know?

[SnowBird]

Very well said BadToad.

[topping82]

Davis and then Chloe. I didn't mind Clark in this episode either, which is surprising since I couldn't stand him in Hex. I don't mind Tess either.

[TessIsNotAVillan]

Tess :)