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EternalTwilight
04-04-2009, 04:03 PM
^ :rotfl:
saltyweeks
04-04-2009, 05:02 PM
Yes, if you're going to retcon, loose ends and plot holes will be left hanging, but remember we were complaining about the direction of previous seasons and that Smallville was going downhill. Yet here we are complaining that THIS SEASON is not holding true tp the PREVIOUS SEASONS that we were complaining about in the first place.
:)
lex fan 10
04-04-2009, 05:03 PM
i liked seing the berth of doomsday and little lex and clark and chloe and the green k
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9 out of a 10
cloisthelegendbegins
04-04-2009, 05:10 PM
Yet here we are complaining that THIS SEASON is not holding true tp the PREVIOUS SEASONS that we were complaining about in the first place.
Is it too much to expect them to get the continuity right for THIS SEASON? They couldn't even do that in this episode. :rolleyes:
Fallen One
04-04-2009, 05:20 PM
12:30pm...Madison Turner's 7th Birthday Party... Desperate for a way to control the beast, Davis resorts to the unthinkable..
Madison Turner: (pouting) Daddy! Daddy! Where's the clown?
Allen Turner: Easy, honey. Daddy had to cancel the clown for your party, but I hired someone else. Someone better. He should be here any minute.
Sherry Turner: I don't know why you're being so secretive about this, honey.
Allen: That's because it's a surprise. Trust me. He's the best in…
The sound of a brick hitting the window is heard, causing everyone to jump in terror
Allen: Oh! That must be him!
Allen rushes to the door.
Sherry: (terrified) But we have a doorbell. What was…holy crap. Is that…?
Allen: Yup. Doomsday. I hired the Doomsday for Madison's party.
Doomsday: (after a long glare) I parked my bike on your neighbor's face. Hope you don't mind.
Allen: No. You can go ahead and park anywhere you want. My yard is your yard. Vroom vroom!
Doomsday glares aggresively at Allen. After half a minute of silence, Sherry speaks.
Sherry: Mr. Doomsday, what are you here to do exactly? I don't get why…(stopping short and staring at his face) Uh, is that a comb-over?
Doomsday: Yes.
Allen: Of course it is. You can see it on TV. It's part of why he's feared.
Sherry: Yeah, but this close up in person, it's sort of creepy.
Allen: But that's what he does. He's creepy.
Sherry: Yeah, I think that's a different kind of creepy than the kind he's giving off.
Doomsday: Did you get…(his eyes turn red)... the Sour Patch Kids I requested?
Allen: Yes. They're in the bowl over there.
Doomsday: (slowly pouring the bowl into his hand) I…Do… Love Me… Some Sour Patch Kids.
Sherry: So, you say you do magic?
Doomsday: (long glare) Yes.
Allen: Of course he does, honey! He's the Great Doomwini!
Doomsday: (cold glare) That crap ain't funny.
Allen: Sorry.
Doomsday: I do magic. That's what I do. Now which one is your kid? (pointing)That one?
Allen: That's a lamp.
Doomsday: I meant behind the lamp.
Sherry: That's a coat rack.
Doomsday: (nodding) Yes. Yes it is. What were you asking me again?
Sherry: Never mind. Madison. Come here. Mr. Doomsday is going to show you a trick.
Madison slowly stands up from behind the sofa and moves forward trembling
Madison: Dad-dy, that's n-n-not a clown! You're not a clown!
Doomsday: I'm not supposed to be a clown, stunod. Now come over here before I kill you.
Madison: Fine. (stomping over) What?
Doomsday: I'm going to show you a trick. Hey. Little kids. Who wants to see the Ultimate Destroyer do a trick?
Little boy: You are the Ultimate Destroyer?
Allen: Ha ha. Oh Billy. Don't be silly. It's just a figure of speech.
Doomsday: (long glare) No. I'm the Ultimate Destroyer.
Allen: Uhhh. OK. Please.. continue.
Doomsday: OK. So here's what we're going to do. I want everyone here to pretend like I'm not here. Can we do that?
Madison: But Daddy!
Doomsday: Kid. I would paint your face with the TV…
Madison: Fine.
Doomsday: OK. Now no one look at me.
Doomsday slowly backs away over to the light switch.
Sherry: Why are you turning off the lights?
Lights flip off. Darkness.
Madison's Voice in the Dark: HELP!
Allen: What the hell are you doing?!
Madison: OWWW! MOMMMMMY!
The lights flip back on and Doomsday, now in another part of the room, is holding down Madison and violently pummeling her. She's screaming in pain. After a few moments, Doomsday gets up, wipes blood from his hands, and takes a bow.
Doomsday: Tada!
Allen: OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! Get out of our house!!
Doomsday: That's fine. I'll be taking these Sour Patch Kids with me. Oh, and by the way, I'm coming back here to kill everybody in their sleep. Ciao! I'm out!
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Oh its a sad day when things get that desperate for Doomsday. Maybe this episode will be better for him. Maybe. Time to have some sour patch kids and scroll down. Lets do this.
The Luthor Mansion starts us off, with Tess reading a Veritas book. One.. big.. Veritas book. And it even has drawings of the meteor shower. In case you forgot how Clark arrived, the show goes into flashback mode to the year 1989 to refresh your memory. Meteors left and right destroy buildings, cars, pigeons, Chevy Chase's career, and Drew Barrymore's sanity. For added measure they even flatten Lana's parents like tortilla bread. He he, yeah.. those were the days. Ha ha.
Jonathan looks back smiling at all the carnage but a meteor lands in front of his truck, creating a crater in the road. He hits the breaks but, alas, it is inevitable that his truck turns upside now. Not so funny now is it, Jonathon? Lionel and his great hair scans a destroyed cornfield looking for any trace of Lex but all he sees is CGI footage. Moving forward he finds a lump of grass with a now bald Lex underneath. The kid is in a fetal position and trembling from shock. I guess he watched Power and Requiem. Nearbye in upsidedown-ville the Kents observe a naked kid walk toward their truck with a goofy expression on his face. Legend has it that his first words were "All my fault."
A short distance away from that kodak moment is a ugly demon egg that hatches, leaking green ooze onto the soil. The ooze starts smoking and bubbling until it morphs into the shape of a 8 year old boy who is also trembling in a fetal position. We cut back to Tess who just can't believe what she is reading. Thats a coincidence. I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Opening Credits. If the Pilot was filmed with this season's budget we would have gotten only 2 meteors hitting Smallville: One hitting the loft, and the other hitting somewhere offscreen.
Daily Planet. Tess congradulates someone on the phone for a job well done when Clark walks into her office. He hands her an article about a string of missing person's reports with eery simularities. Clark thinks that all the people were attacked by the same person and wants the story to be printed on the front page to warn people. Tess pretends to think it over but turns him down, claiming he needs more facts before she can print it. Clark thinks something is up asks if she cares about the people missing. She can't even face him after that question. Why not just wear a tee-shirt that says "I'm obvious" on it. When he accuses her of purposedly ignoring these crimes she scoffs that he's paranoid matter of factly states she doesn't lie like he does. Oh no she didn't.
Talon. And Davis is crying. What in the world would make a grown - oh there's Chloe. Makes sense now. Davis is cooking her dinner because she did some hacker stuff to his cell phone. There's some flirty banter between them before she sets the table. Like a good little stalker, Davis brings up Jimmy, hoping that things are really over between them. Chloe looks not-so-broken up and tells him of Jimmy's emails to her in which he cussed her out. I would pay top dollar to read those emails. Not finished yet, Davis feints ignornance to Jimmy's reasoning and she takes the bait; telling him that Jimmy told her not to call, come by, nor email him again. Thats what I like to hear Jimbo. And if she won't leave you alone, threaten to make a home movie with Paris Hilton. An indignant Chloe continues.
"I thought we were best friends, but obviously there was some stuff brewing beneath the surface for a while. How can be so close to someone and not really know who they are?" - said by the person who was Chloiac and hid it for the entire engagement and marriage, 7:10 PM.
Is she even trying anymore? Anyways, Davis breaks up the pity party by cutting his hand and Chloe rushes to help him, but the pasta sauce rubs right off without leaving a scratch on him. As she looks at him curiously Clark comes in without knocking. Chloe jokes about him not calling and makes a gesture for him to leave, but Clark casually closes the door and doesn't take his eyes off Davis as he greets him. Davis answers back but doesn't even look at Clark. After a few seconds of silence Chloe asks Clark whats up. Clark is still visibly disturbed but alludes to a question he wants to ask Chloe about a case he's working on. Davis takes the hint and suggests he and Chloe take a raincheck on dinner and leaves for the night.
Once downstairs, he starts beasting up and hurries out the door. Next we see him carrying a bloodied shovel away from a remote field, back to his really beat-up truck. Once in the drivers seat, he kisses his stolen rosary and asks for forgiveness before dropping it to the floor, not wishing to look at it. Soon as he turns on his headlights he gets a call from Tess who is standing there in the middle of the road like the Terminator with internet access. I would have hit the gas and drove forward as fast as I could but no, Davis decides to gawk at her. Tess asks him to recite the prayer for dismembering bodies and takes out a charger and blows up the truck. How rude. Although, coincidently enough, the car looked better ablazed than it did before. Tess looks pleased at her evil genius bomb.
Commercial Break. McDonald's gives you a free coffee with a breakfast sandwich. Know who else gives free coffee? Jiffy Lube. Yeah. Not so special now, huh?
So it's simple. C=2. 222 = hle. Protect Clark.222 X 9 - 1 = Chloe. It's simple math, guy.
Maam, I don't know what you're talking about. The pizza is $19.
But, it's only $2.22! You see, Chloe -1...
Maam, don't make me call a cop.
Talon. Chloe is checking the reports in Clark's article. He finds it interesting that Tess won't print it but he trails off in thought. Somehow Chloe picks up on the fact that he's staring at her and wants to know why. He hesistates then admits to being surprised at seeing her dinner plans with Davis. Chloe rolls her eyes and gets gets an attitude when someone talks ill of her Doomster. I was about to suggest that Clark watch her right hand, but tazering doesn't affect him. When he says she's moving on too fast and questions what she sees in Davis she turns up the attitude a notch and tells him that Davis is kind, sweet, and is a strong shoulder to lean on and follows that up with a low blow that Clark isn't being the friend she needs. More arguing, more attitude, then she sees a report about Davis' blown up truck. But what is it that doesn't see? Stay tuned.
Luthor Mansion. Davis awakens in Tess' bed with horrible burn scares over his body, dressed like a mummy. She apologizes for his scars, but expresses grief over the fact that she didn't kill him. Oh, since you put it that way Tess it sounds so much better! She takes the bandage off his face, and he mutters who is she and why is he hear but she shushes him and tells him he's safe with her, safer than he would be anywhere else. Um, except for the fact that she just tried to murder him, Tess. Her reasoning is that if folks knew he was the serial killer that his life would be hell. When Davis starts to explain why he does what he does she doesn't seem bothered and says she understands why he kills. He acts like he's doing his best to end things and she cools that even suicide wouldn't help someone who can't die. Realizing she knows everything he tries to lie but it doesn't work. She tells him that she looked into his background and didn't find anything until she stole a book from Lionel's personal possessions. She has a seat. Its time for a beadtime story folks. We flashback to 1989.
Behind Clark's spaceship a young confused Davis has a peek at his ugly demon egg, then hides behind a bush when he hears the Kents approaching as they discover the ship and discuss adopting Clark. Gotta love Jonathan's face when he first sees that spaceship. Suddenly Aunt Neil's flowers don't seem too strange afterall. Davis watches as the Kents walk away with Clark and it seems for a moment that he was about to call out for them to take him too, but security guards yell that they found him and he takes off back into the cornfields like Jenny in Forest Gump. They chase after him, closing the gap until they trap him in a cage. In this Veritas book there's even a drawing of Davis trapped in the cage. Come on, show.
The woobying isn't over yet, kids. Days later young Lex, wearing a beanie, is searching for his pet bird named Feathers in the Luthor Mansion. The bird flies through a window of a locked door and a little boy is heard humming from the other side. Cautiously Lex approaches the door and takes a peek through the key hole, and at the same time Davis does as well. From the other side Davis asks who is there and Lex opens the door and walks inside. After some awkwardness Davis looks at Lex's beanie and asks if he's cold. Ha, why does that bring a smile to my face? Lex looks down in shame and says no and Davis takes off the cap to look at his shiny bald head. He notices the Warrior Angel comic Lex is holding and asks if Lex is suppose to be him. Lex says he'd like to be, and Davis takes a Warrior Angel action figure out of his pocket. That seems to do the trick and they introduce themselves, only Davis doesn't have a name. He tells Lex that some men brought him to the mansion and put needles in his arm. Lex asks if he wants to play and they leave the room. Reveal Lex's pet bird Feathers, dead behind where Davis was standing. Oh you evil little Dooms. Killing birds is evil, but he probably killed it to protect Clark. So its OK.
Back to the present, Tess continues her bedtime story. The day of the meteor shower Lionel sent out a search party for Davis because he thought he was the Traveler. But no, Lionel.. there is another..
At that abandoned field from earlier, Clark and Chloe drive up to see a tow-truck loading Davis' toasted truck. Chloe asks if the police were there yet and the guy yes. She all to eager to find out if Davis was killed but the guy tells her that the truck was abandoned. She spots Clark staring into the field and asks him about it. Clark thinks its strange Davis would abandon his truck at this place, since this is the field where his spaceship landed. Taking a further look, he X-Rays the land and finds hundreds of bodies buried underneath the ground. Oh its just a terrible sight! Clark could use a commercial break.
Commercial Break. Get ready for the new season of Nashville Star. Quick - who was last season's Nashville Star? Get it wrong? Me too. I guessed Chuck Norris.
You've…reached….the Monster!….Beep
Hello, Mr…uh…Doomsday? This is Blockbuster video calling. You currently have three movies still overdue. They are Monsters Inc., Monster's Ball, and the Bridges of Madison County. Please return them to the office as soon as possible. Thank you.
Luthor Mansion. Davis wakes up, now fully healed of his wounds. Getting out of bed, he grabs his clothes and shoes and heads toward the exit. Spoting a familiar door, he opens it and we go to yet another flashback. Young Lex and Davis are having a duel with wooden swords. Its a damn shame that that was better duel than the Dooku/Anakin one in 'Attack of the Clones'. Davis stops and stares around the room until he notices the St. George lead box atop Lionel's desk. Lex explains the story then claims that he is St. George sent to protect the world from a beast like him. They play fight once again and Lex pretends to stab him with Davis falling to the ground. Lex tells him he'll now claim his treasure and walks over to the lead box and opens it, but Davis screams in pain at the exposure of the Kryptonite inside and Lex shuts the box, confused.
In the present Davis looks on, realizing that there is a way to stop him. As he turns to leave there's Tess again. Now maybe its just me, but if I tried to kill someone who couldn't die I would be halfway around the world when they fulled healed. Davis tells her she can't keep him there and she knows all of this but walks away questioning what to do. Like a hyponotized nutsy, she asks out loud what to do when you find a Judas in your mist? Davis looks confused, and she continues by asking who would Christ have been had Judas not betrayed him.. Just a teacher roaming the desert.
Yes. You are reading this correctly.
"I don't.. quite.. understand what you're getting at." Davis Bloom, speaking for all of humanity, 7:32 PM.
Tess turns and tells him that without Judas Christ would have never risen from the dead and saved mankind. That there is a savior in Smallville and that Davis will betray him. Davis rightfully thinks she's crazy, and she continues by saving that until Davis fufills his destiny, Clark won't become a savior and triumph over the world's destroyer. The mention of Destroy angers Davis and he grabs Tess by the shoulders, demanding to know who this savior is. Wow, she just spills Clark's secret and tells him that the reason they don't get along is that they are destined to kill each other. Davis lets her go and starts hulking up before backhanding her about 30 feet to the wall. Thanks a lot Tess, and what did you expect to happen?
Daily Planet. Chloe storms into the basement of the DP with Clark in right behind her, upset that she failed to tell him about Davis' blackouts. Her explanation - she thought it a was low blood pressure problem. Clark doesn't let up and asks her why didn't she realize something was wrong with the guy when he confessed that someone was dark inside him. Her answer - she thought dark meant moody or bipolar.
Seriously. She said those things.
She screams that she knows he's right and admits she was in denial and didn't think it was this bad. After a moment her face becomes gloom and she admits that Jimmy was right about Davis. Sweet vindication, now apologize to the guy and maybe his anger will subside. Clark grabs a folder from his desk and says that the victims were low-lives and criminals. She asks if he think this is vigilantism and Clark thinks so but doesn't think Davis would just leave his car next to a field of bodies. He suspects Davis was kidnapped. Chloe says she was digging in Davis past and saw that Tess was already doing so. And with that, Clark is leaves.
Metropolis General. Tess is ticked that security couldn't stop Davis from leaving the mansion and warns the secruity guy to find him or he's fired. As he leaves, Clark walks in to talk with Tess. He asks her if Davis put her in the hospital and she tells him its a long story. Boy I hope there's not a flashback version. Oh good, there's not. Clark is all ears and she tells him that she has Lionel's journal. She says that Lionel was in Smallville the day of the meteor shower looking for the Traveler. Clark smiles too obviously and asks her why is she telling him this. She explains that the Kawatchee natives spoke of a boy with two heads, one good and one evil. And that the Luthors were too blinded by their fued to realize that another boy fell to Earth. Clark laughs everything off, and Tess tells him that when Lionel found Davis he thought he was the Traveler and held him for five days performing tests on him. But then he got a call from Martha and he threw Davis on the street. Ready for another kick to the gut? She tells Clark that he was the reason why Davis was kicked to the curb. Stop. Stop before you begin, show.
Isis. Chloe is looking at photos of the victims when she hears someone come in behind her. She thinks its Clark but its Davis. She springs to her feet and tells him she knows about the murders and that Jimmy was right. He justifyies what he did to the drunk driver in Turbulance but she isn't buying it and sprints toward the door, throwing things down in path as he chases after her trying to explain. He of course catches her and closes the door shut as she screams that he lied to her. He tries to calm her by saying he didn't want to involve her. She shoves him away and asks then why is he there. Good question. I hope he has a good answer.
"I love you. And I need to know if you care about me." - Doomsday to Chloe Sullivan, 7:38PM.
I had to stop the tape because I'm grabbing at my chest over here. Can rage cause a heart attack?
She says she thought she did and takes a few steps backwards. Davis face darkens as he tells hers her that if he she doesn't love him that he asks one thing of her- help him commit suicide. I can feel.. the beast inside of me.. threatening to come out. Go .. to.. break.
Commercial Break. 'Lana, you're a hero!' Bad writing? Another unfortunate side effect of hunger. Grab a Snickers.
Clark arrives at Isis to see that Chloe is missing and finds information about Dr. Groll's Luthercorp lab. Not that idiot again. Everytime his labs are shown something happens to upset me.
Luthorcorp lab. Davis stands in the same cage Lionel once used to trap Clark, only this time there is a vat of green-K above him. Chloe stands next to a lever, crying her eyes out. He tells her its time and she whimpers that she can't kill him. He asks her to do it, as he finally found a way to end his life. She holds her arms to the lever and weeps that she just can't do it.
:: Drinks pepto bismol:: Let us proceed.
Clark whooshes in and grabs her hand to stop her. Davis tells him its his life and that he can kill himself if he choses. Clark tells him not to be a martyr. Too late, Clark, too episodes too damn late. Davis tells him he's not doing it for Clark but for himself. He can't live with himself anymore. Clark walks forward and tells him that its not Davis fault - that its all his fault, and that he and Davis should have been brothers.
I just.. I have no words.
Clark continues by wondering aloud what life would have been for him if the Luthors found him in the field, that he could have turned out differently. Davis walks to the edge of his cage and acts all sympathetic, telling Clark that he didn't and how he was destined to have the better life. That no matter how hard they both tried the true nature of them would have always triumphed. Are you listening, Clark? Davis walks away and tells Chloe to pull the lever and end this but Clark tells her not to and that things aren't set in stone. Davis gently tells Clark that deep down he knows this is the best thing for the both of them. Clark asks him if there is something, anything in his life worth giving things another chance for. Davis looks directly at Chloe who is crying behind Clark, Clark picks up on that and turns to face Chloe and she looks to ground.
My eyes are going red.
Davis tells them all that its not about where one's heart is, its about what they've done and will do. And with that he starts to lose control and falls to the ground in pain. Clark beats on the glass, as Davis eyes go red and his voice changes. Clark's gets a shocked looked on his face and perhaps a slight hint of fear as Davis growls that there aren't enough prayers in this world to get him redemption. Chloe freaks out and runs to the lever and pulls it. FINALLY! A tub of liquid green-k is released on Davis, and causing Clark to drop to the ground. Chloe pulls Clark away from the cage and Davis wallops around like a drunk person. In case you loved flashbacks, there's one more. This time to young Davis being dropped off into an alley by Lionel's security team. Thats messed up, and the kid looks really scared as the guy just gets back into his limo. Big mistake. Davis' eyes go red and he beasts up and kills the guy. What an adorable kid. Charles Manson would be proud.
Back to the real time as Davis starts to slump to the floor in slow motion as the liquid kryptonite raining on him. Chloe leaves Clark and runs to his cage and touches it. Davis turns slowly to look at her and touches the glass as well, before flopping to the ground dead. He looked like a walrus on beach sand. Skittles, oh Skittles, take me away.
Commercial Break. Skittles. Feel the Rainbow. Taste the Rainbow. Yeah, uh… before I agree to anything, can we just clarify what exactly "the Rainbow" is?
Hello. Mister Kent. Welcome to Chang's Chinese Restaurant. May I take your order?
Yo, yo, man. What's that say on the menu right here?
Oh. That's Pupu Platter.
Ah ha ha ha! Say it again. Say it again. What's that?
Pupu Platter!
Ah ha ha ha! Again! Again! Yo, what's this I'm pointing to?
That is fried wonton in sesame sauce.
Ah ha. wait. What? Oh. No. Above where I'm pointing. Above. My finger slipped.
Pupu Platter.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA! You a crazy, man, Mr. Chang!
Talon. Clark walks in and asks a depressed Chloe how she's holding up. He sits down and tells her that Oliver is cleaning up the mess at the lab, and wants them to talk about what happened. She says she wouldn't change what she did but Clark calmly tells her that there is always another way of solving things besides killing. Well Clark, you're a fool. She tells him she won't risk doing whats best for the world because of his lame morals and because he refuses to stop the things that threaten him.
There isn't.. enough bile in my stomach.. to make me..
SHE knows whats best for the world? HER???! Zatanna, you owe me a wish. I beg you - grant my wish.
Instead of quoting some of Jimmy's emails to her ass, Clark picks up a photo of the cave drawings and reflects back at Jor-El's warning about the ultimate destroyer and notes it wasn't much of a fight. As he burns the photo he confesses a nightmare he use to have about not being found when his ship landed. That he wonders what it would be like if his life was destined to be like Davis'.
Kent Farm. Clark is doing chores in the barn when Tess walks in. He tells her he's busy but she doesn't leave. She references him as the Blur and he tells her he's sorry she is obssessed over the idea of him being the Traveler. She perfers to think of it was "believing." He picks up a bag of grain and tells her that if she's reading the book of a madman then maybe she has some holes in her personal life. She tells him that everyone looks to idols because they have holes in their lives, but it doesn't mean they aren't real. Clark tells her that what she thinks about him isn't real and that he's not this guy. After mumbling about Judas, she tells him he won't fulfill his great destiny until he meets his greatest challenge. Once more Clark tells her she doesn't know anyting about him and she starts to lose her temper.
"If this is the way you lied to Lex then I can see how it have pushed him over the edge." - Tess, another side effect of hunger, 7:55 PM.
Clark answers back that Lex was going off the deep end way before he met him but she counters that betrayal is the worst, and the more you love someone the harder it is. When asked if thats a threat she says no, but that she'll wait for him to come to her. Clark tells her that it will be one long wait, and with that he walks away. She watches on and says that it'll be shorter than he thinks, adding his real name.
Luthor Mansion. Tess unlocks a door in her study and pulls out a briefcase. Reveal that inside the briefcase lays the orb that brought down the FOS in last season's finale. Hmm, so when and where did she find this?
Talon. The hero of the world walks in with groceries and hears a sound from downstairs. She opens a door and walks down to the basement. The noise is coming from Davis who walks out of hiding, showing that he is alive. When she questions what the green-K did to him he tells her that they made him stronger and immortal. Nice going, hero. Thats just awesome. She starts getting scared and walks towards the steps to warn Clark he's in danger but Davis calls out that he won't kill Clark if he's with her. She stops and turns.
"What? What do I have to do with any of this?" - Chloe Sullivan, 7:59PM.
"THATS what I've been asking! Thats what I've been asking ALL SEASON LONG!!" - myself, hysterical, seconds later.
He explains that there's something about being around her that calms the beast inside of him. She brings up what he said earlier about not being able to deny your true nature, but he thinks there is something stronger than his need to kill and asks her softly if she would stay with him. She looks at him, then at the door upstairs, then she walks up the stairs leaving him almost crying as he watches. A closeup on their faces as she walks and thinks things over. Finally she reaches the door, pauses, and locks the door from the inside to end the episode.
All in all. Remember in 'Saturday Night Fever' when Tony was dancing with two ladies and one of them went nuts and demanded he kiss her. And when he does she says and I quote "Ohhh, I just kissed Al Pacino!"? Remember how WTF that was? That was Eternal. Where oh where do I start.
Lionel Luthor leaves a journal around detailing WITH pictures what his secret society was up to? Come on.
Sageeth is Davis? No way, just no way. If this isn't clarified as being merely Tess' interpretation then this would be one of the worst examples of rectons this show has done. Did they just forget that Sageeth was a friend and brother to Naman before he turned against him? Davis and Clark didn't like each other from the moment they met. Did they forget about Starblade and that it glowed around Segeeth? That it would disapear when the true Sageeth touches it? That it DID disapear when Lex touched it??
PS: Those are good questions. And there's a perfectly good answer to them - Shut up.
Speaking of Tess. That interest I had in her is now gone. Her behavior this episode was lunacy. And not the sexy Maxima type, the Glenn Close type. She's believes Clark to be this god and thinks of herself as someone whose purpose is to force him into his destiny. Where the heck did all of this come from?? She wants Clark to trust her but she proved just how untrustworthy she is by spilling his secret to Davis without even blinking. Who knows who else she'll tell. No way does she survive into next season. Something is going down with her in the finale.
The woobification of Davis was complete this episode. I would have rather seen him go to Madison's birthday party. Poor genetic matter, why didn't anyone love him? If only they had loved him he wouldn't have became a murderer. Oh.. thats right.. there was nothing anyone could have done. And he would have killed those loving parents as soon as they made him upset. So why again is this tragic? I felt sorry for child Davis when he was caged and stuck with needles and then dumped on the street. But after he beasted out? Nuh uh. He tried to end his life, and for that I have some measure of respect for him. But it ends there.
Chloe, oh Chloe. First, I'm glad she at least admitted her feeling for Davis were more than friendly. She tried to sell Jimmy that lie and he didn't believe her. No wife tasers her sick husband for just another "friend". She withheld some key information from Clark in the episode Prey and other people died because of it. When she learned what Davis did she seemed more upset about the fact that he lied to her about it than him being a serial killer. Her decision to pull that lever has now taken away his only weakness. If she had listened to Clark - sure he and Doomsday would have fought, but green-K could have been used to easily defeat him. There's ALWAYS another way besides killing, thats what makes Superman who he is. The most alarming thing is that Chloe is A-OK with killing, as she keeps proving this year. But the end of the episode was the worse. Everything was there for her to make the right decision. She knew the guy was a monster that only Clark could deal with, she knew the consequences of harboring him in the basement. Davis didn't threaten her and he didn't run after her. He stood there and gave her a choice and watched her walk up those stairs. She could have left, she could walked out, but she didn't. None of the consequences I mentioned mattered because she loves him and that won her over. Make no mistake, she didn't lock that door to protect the world from Doomsday getting out, she locked it to keep anyone else from coming in. She doesn't want anyone like Clark trying to interfere.
And now Clark, who seemed like a guest star in this episode. Why not save money and give his role to a big bag of skittles? Because it seemed he was just there to be there in this episode. A mere spectator to the great EPIC tragic love story of Doomsday and Chloe. Nothing was done to advance his RBB arc or Lois. So no, wasn't particularly thrilled with how he was written this episode, and felt it was a big drop off from the past two episodes. Two things I liked though: that he wanted to find another way to deal with Doomsday and that he held steadfast from Tess. But these people he has in his life- specifically Chloe, Tess, and Oliver. These nutjobs have taken it upon themselves to extract their own brand of justice and literally tell Clark he's just a fool who doesn't know what choices to make. You know what Clark needs? To kick all three of them out of his life and surround himself with people like Lois who have the same moral compass as himself and would never condone killing or harboring fugives under the guise of "protecting" him.
In a nutshell, this episode = exposition, flashbacks, exposition, retcons, woobie Davis, biblical references, Chloe's plight. Not interested in the least, and with this being the team that will write the finale I'm a little concerned that it won't live up to expectations. Loved seeing the Kents again, really liked the young child actors of Davis and Lex, and liked some of the stuff Clark did. But this was barely better than average to me. 6 out of 10, the same as Abyss.
Next episode: If the shoe fits, throw it at someone's head.
costas22
04-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Smashing review Cedric.You wouldn't happen to dislike Chloe would you?
Mickey_Bickey
04-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Cedric, I've been waiting all day, and as usual you didn't disappoint!
BTW, that lady who kissed Tony Monero was none other than Fran Dresher!:lol: Yeah, I think it was her first role! Good one BTW!
I also gave this episode a 6! There were a lot of things in your review that I agreed with, especially the fact that Chloe is falling for Davis, and there's more to her motives than just protecting Clark at this point. Not that I like seeing that, but it's the way it is. I think that the Judas reference was interesting, but again I agree that Tess was way over the top and much less interesting in this episode. Your Glenn Close comment was spot on!:lol:
Thanks, Buddy! Always a pleasure reading your reviews!!;):D
NoSupeForYou
04-04-2009, 06:24 PM
If Doomsday is the Ultimate Destroyer and he can't die forever, why does he need to pretend to be human? He hulked up when the kid thing wasn't working, why didn't he stay that way? Wouldn't it have made more sense for Zod to send Doomsday to kill Kal-el as a kid when he couldn't possibly defend himself?
Apparently, he wanted to give the son of Jor-el a sporting chance?
Zod: I've created the Ultimate Destroyer!
Faora: What, that Cadburry Cream Egg?
Zod: No my dear, this goo will hitch a ride on that secret spaceship that Jor-el is building, make itself appear like a frightened little human, and wait until Kal-el grows into a man so it can fight him.
Faora: If you know about the ship, why don't you just plant a bomb on it so it blows up right in Jor-el's face so he can watch his son die right in front of him?
Zod: *Silence*
Faora: While we're on that, why don't you use that with the judges so we can get a lesser punishment? I'm sure they would be interested to know that Jor-el is defying them.
Zod: It was all Brainiac's idea.
Faora: You mean that other puddle of goo you ordered fom Del-el? That thing has been corrputed ever since you picked up that virus viewing all those porn sites.
Zod: OK! So there are a few holes in my plot.
Faora: No wonder we're about to get thrown in the Phantom Zone, genius. Why didn't you unleash you Ultimate Destroyer here against our enemies anyway?
Zod: I think I'm going to ask the judges for the death penalty.
By the way, Cedric, great review. I particulary enjoyed the third paragraph after the opening.
Zod: An eternity of this?
lm1212
04-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Great Review yet again Cedric! You know I didn't realize that was a dead bird on the table when young Davis left...wonder why I missed it.
thehenry89
04-04-2009, 06:39 PM
great review cedric I laughed I cried I ate skittles :D
SnowBird
04-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Cedric...I completely agree with you on your review. Great Job! We need Lois and Clark to cheer us up:)
LoveHurts38
04-04-2009, 09:03 PM
I skipped the episode but, had to read your review Cedric loved it now I crave skittles.
insidejohke
04-04-2009, 10:34 PM
i gave the ep. a eight
i really enjoyed it, but the continuity errors kind of erked me =/
Farm_Girl
04-04-2009, 10:54 PM
I wasn’t planning on watching this episode but after reading some of the comments, I wanted to see how things played out so I finally watched it.
The whole retcon thing and Davis=Seegeth was a load of crap. The Naman/Seegeth thing is one of the core things of Smallville’s mythology. If they’ve re-written it, then I don’t know how I can trust them with any of the stuff. Seegeth is unarguably Lex and only Lex and there is a perfect reason behind it. He’s the contrast to everything that Clark Kent is. They started off like brothers and their friendship was the strongest but it’s their values and that very “contrast” that tore them apart. Hence one is Naman and the other is Seegeth.
No way, by any means can Davis Bloome fit into this. Doomsday is just a monster that kills Superman. Period. There is no backstory, no tragic instances, nothing epic that led to this and to try to cook this up will only make it ridiculous. I have little hope that they’ll show by the end of season that this retcon was nothing but a figment of Tess’s imagination. I don’t think they would have touched this story if they didn’t mean to establish that Davis is Segeeth which is utter b*** sh**. Just a lame line from Clark saying “We should have been brothers” is not going to sell this out of the blue crap to anyone. Clark has been suspicious of Davis since day one. How can that make Davis Seegeth or even “Judas”??
As for Chloe. I have one thing to ask. *In Chandler Bing voice* Could Chloe be anymore annoying?
Seriously, she’s so inconsistent and lame that it has become laughable now. After learning who Davis was and that Jimmy was absolutely right all along, the first thing she should have done was to go to Jimmy and apologize for her obnoxiousness, but what does the woman decide to do? Cry for Davis and show her undying love for him. And I cannot, even for a minute believe that Chloe's choice had anything to do with Clark. She didn’t do it for Clark. She did it only and only for herself.
If she is worried about Clark’s safety and even has the slightest respect for Jimmy just as a friend (I won’t say lover or husband because she never considered him that, she just played with his love and emotions that’s all) she should warn them, if she doesn’t, then she’s just selfish and self-centered, nothing else. She showed through the entire episode that she loves Davis so by no means can we believe that she is doing anything to protect Clark.
Tess is another character that seriously annoys me now. She’s just a female Lex and since Freeman does not even possess 1% of the awesomeness that was Rosenbaum, she’s plain boring to watch now. Out of nowhere, she has become interested in Clark’s destiny? Why the hell? Please kill her in the finale or send her away. I don’t want to see more of her.
There’s nothing to say about Clark because he was barely there, except that I liked him telling off Chloe and taking Jimmy’s side. I liked his disgust with the whole Chlavis thing. What I hated was that one, why the hell did he come to Chloe for help, he’s a journalist who wrote the story himself, he has the resources to do his own research, why come to hacker now? Two, I really hated his last scene with Tess. It was like S2 all over again when he used to tell Lex that there was nothing special about him. I am sick of Clark getting recycled lines. I was really, really annoyed by that. Can’t we do this show without having a lunatic who is after Clark’s secret and whom he constantly has to keep telling “I don’t know what you’re talking about, do you really believe I am an alien? Really?”
It was a filler and a really pathetic one at that. Where Clark appears just because Tom is signed for 22 episodes, where there is 0% development for Clark’s character, where his future and destiny as Superman doesn’t even remotely come up, where the woman Clark is in love with doesn’t even get a mention but the romance of two really insignificant characters is developed, that seriously has nothing to do with Superman at all.
I lost one hour of my life watching this craptastic piece of junk. Thanks a lot Brian and Kelly, I have no faith in Smallville’s future now.
love_smallville
04-04-2009, 11:37 PM
her character is Smallville's interpretation of Mercy Graves, who was like Lex Luthor's sidekick in the comics, and Miss Tessmacher, who was another parter of Lex in one of the Superman movies, but not the comics.
thanks for clarifying :)
Tompouce
04-05-2009, 01:04 AM
Cedric, I've been waiting all day, and as usual you didn't disappoint!
BTW, that lady who kissed Tony Monero was none other than Fran Dresher!:lol: Yeah, I think it was her first role! Good one BTW!
I also gave this episode a 6! There were a lot of things in your review that I agreed with, especially the fact that Chloe is falling for Davis, and there's more to her motives than just protecting Clark at this point. Not that I like seeing that, but it's the way it is. I think that the Judas reference was interesting, but again I agree that Tess was way over the top and much less interesting in this episode. Your Glenn Close comment was spot on!:lol:
Thanks, Buddy! Always a pleasure reading your reviews!!;):D
It is a relief to see I am not the only one to think that ! I know some people are like us but there are not so many...
Cédric, I am totally angry about the Clark's screentime (at each episode, it is getting worse !) but your " And now Clark, who seemed like a guest star in this episode" is absolutely :lol:
petitemimi
04-05-2009, 07:01 AM
I second that. PS3 are creatively bancrupt and should retire or leave to write their crap somewhere else.
You said it. They tried to get another gig with the Graysons but unfortunately for them (and us), they had to go back to Smallville.
And now Clark, who seemed like a guest star in this episode. Why not save money and give his role to a big bag of skittles?
:rotfl: Don't give them ideas! They're so desperate for them, they might take it!
It was a filler and a really pathetic one at that. Where Clark appears just because Tom is signed for 22 episodes...
ITA.
saltyweeks
04-05-2009, 07:50 AM
No way, by any means can Davis Bloome fit into this. Doomsday is just a monster that kills Superman. Period. There is no backstory, no tragic instances, nothing epic that led to this and to try to cook this up will only make it ridiculous.
After learning who Davis was and that Jimmy was absolutely right all along, the first thing she should have done was to go to Jimmy and apologize for her obnoxiousness
The first part is exactly the reason I like the Smallville Doomsday, but not the one from the comics. I feel the comic Doomsday was a one-dimensional, boring villain. I wouldn't be interested in just watching him show up and crush stuff. That would be one show at best, and probably nowhere near as good to me as "Eternal".
As for the second part, maybe I have missed out, but do you know a lot of women who would DO that when they found out their ex was "right"? If you have friends like that I wish I could be introduced, I've met the wrong girls! :)
Bizarrolover
04-05-2009, 07:51 AM
Excellent review, Cedric!
Good post Farm Girl!
This second half of the season is really disappointing. First it was the SuperLana arc and now the misadventures of Davis and Chloe. Clark and his development always come second or third, if there's any. I feel I'm watching the Chloe Sullivan Show and her character has grown into a magnitude where she now shadows the protagonist of the story. She has the ability to make clark look weak and bad. I really hated the lecture Chloe gave Clark in their last scene, when she said she did what he didn't have the courage to do. That made her a cold hearted murderer and I truly dislike how she, season after season, suggests that killing is the only way out. In a show about Superman we have to see his best friend constantly encouraging him to break the rule that makes him the greatest hero of all times. And what I hate most is that Clark never refutes or answers, he just listens passively as if considering it as a viable option.
I really don't care about Davis' background. To me, what Faora told us was enough. He's a monster created to kill Clark and destroy the world, so I don't care about his failed suicidal missions to avoid the inevitable or this boring beauty and the beast courtship that is wasting half of the series' screen time when it could be used to develop Clark's character. Chloe also lost credibility in this crappy arc. At least, in the previous seasons she came out as a person who cared about people, but what she did to her (ex) husband was unpardonable. Jimmy at least deserved an apology for her mistreatment, a simple 'I'm sorry, you were right about Davis, I fell in love with someone else, wish you the best' would have been enough. But no, she had to drag the marriage into what it became and form an alliance with the psycho killer that destroyed it.
After reading the spoilers about season 9, I'm even more worried. With this build up, I fear it will be a continuation of this second half. Watchtower emerging like the blonde saviour that will guide the superhero to his destiny, and Clark as the supporting character, like he has been since Bulletproof. For once, I would like to see an episode dedicated to his development, but I don't remember watching a Clark centric episode since Identity.
SGuthrie27
04-05-2009, 08:05 AM
Okay, here we go again -- SGuthrie’s first attempt at a full-length review, take 2... and, ACTION!
Hello, boys and girls! It’s time for another thrilling episode of... “Storytime with Tess!” Brought to you in part by Stride Gum, Lemon Pledge, Smallville: The Talon Mix, and YEAH... REMY ZERO!!! Oops, sorry, that was Product Placement Pete. Anyway, Tess Mercer is enjoying a fireside bedtime story with herself about the day of the meteor shower, written by none other than THE Lionel Luthor. We flashback to totally SWEET awesomeness consisting of the brief reaired appearances of Jonathan, Martha, Lionel, the Connor Stanhope version of Li’l Lex, and that parking lot meteor shower scene that’s being shown for third time here (I mean, sure, it’s great, but wasn’t recycling it for “Commencement” enough?). Awww, adorable toddler Clark is there to beam at his soon-to-be adoptive parents. Meanwhile, in the smoldering crater of his crashed spacecraft, an egg that definitely did NOT come from a chicken is about to hatch. Eww. I’m getting visions of the Twilight Zone, pod people, and the Legend of the Water Horse all at the same time. But nope, it ain’t Nessie, and it’s no yolk, people... red-orange-yellow goopy soupy stuff is congealing, coalescing, and conforming into the shivering, highly-in-need-of-clothes form of a young, terrified looking boy. And again, I say: Eww.
SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEE... from pointless retcons and continuity blunders!
Clark waltzes into his boss’s office like he owns the Daily Planet and brags about his latest front page scoop. Who inflated YOUR ego today, Mr. Kent? But seriously, I like the newfound confidence here. She refuses to print his purportedly factless story about the Metropolis serial killer that he would’ve already known the identity of back in “Infamous” if he’d waited half a second to let Lois finish her sentence before he rewound the clock!!! But I digress... Tess does a Season 3-4 Lana Lang impression in calling Clark on his “web of lies.” Takes one to know one, Tess.
That night, at the Talon, Davis shares the tearful story of the time he picked up the mailtruck when the postal worker didn’t have his latest issue of “Warrior Angel,” and accidentally smashed his foster parents’ cat with it. Actually, nope, he’s just chopping onions, as he and Chloe Sullivan, super-hot ex-reporter extraordinaire is actually smiling, exchanging friendly banter, and is on the receiving end of some so-not-obvious flirtation on Davis’ part. He brings up the camera-toting pink elephant in the room, and she reveals that Jimmy’s been spamming her Inbox with loads of expletive-ridden hate mail. Seriously, Chloe, most e-mail providers have features that let you block certain less-than-desirable senders. She calls Mr. Olsen her supposed best friend (Wha -- ?! Who’s Clark then, your parking valet?), but finally admits there was something brewing under the surface for a while there... something long-winded and obnoxious called the non-canon romance that was never meant to be. Davis speculates that he thought Jimmy’d be dying to get back together with her by now... I know I would be! Heh, anyway, Davis is cutting tomatoes with a knife that must be made of adamantium, as it slices his finger. Chloe goes to inspect the boo-boo and gets all googly-eyed with suspicion when he doesn’t have a scratch on him... and he shouldn’t after becoming invulnerable to knife wounds and piercings, thanks to Worst Mommy Ever, Faora. For the second time in one day, Clark barges into a place he doesn’t own like he’s a resident, and thus begins the most awkward half-minute scene of Season 8. “Knock much?” Chloe quips, like she and Davis were caught making out while watching a “Dawson’s Creek” marathon. Okay, honestly, I agree that Chloe and everyone else in Smallville finds no problem with entering the Kent home whenever they feel like it, but a screen door entrance to a kitchen is a little different than a door that opens up to reveal a clear view of a young woman’s bedroom. What if she’d been changing, alien dork? Anyway, he acts like he has neither a brain nor a search engine of his own and wants Chloe’s help to investigate his latest PG-13 rated Scooby-Doo case. Davis mumbles a lame excuse about something he forgot and promises leftovers of the macaroni and cheese dinner that looked more like it was going to end up being salsa. Seriously, how many different vegetables does one usually throw into foster home mac ‘n cheese?
As he stumbles downstairs, Davis clutches his gut in pain. Seriously, dude, maybe you should’ve stayed for dinner after all. Or perhaps he chose to go for take-out, or fix something on the go, as the next thing we know, our doomed friend is in the middle of an empty field with a bloody shovel that makes me wonder if he’s been cooking out of Jodi Melville’s “Roadkill for Dummies Cookbook.” He kisses a cross as he hopes to absolve himself of the guilt of his latest murder, gets a phone call, and Tess Mercer talks about prayer before ordering Roasted Davis for dessert. BOOOOOOM!!! That’s one deep-fried serial killer-paramedic.
Later that evening, Clark wanders around the Talon doing nothing than glare Kryptonian daggers at the back of Chloe’s head while she does all his research for him. How inept are your Internet skills anyway, Clark? He puts on the jealous boyfriend hat and whines about Chloe not really knowing Davis and how he’s oh-so untrustworthy, and she retorts with the very TRUE statement of her need of a shoulder to cry on and Clark’s lack thereof. Continuing to beat a dead horse (not “Meteor the Stompy Horse” from Season 3’s “Shattered,” mind you), Clark continues on with his “Let’s Accuse Davis” rant, before Chloe pales and says that she’s just read Davis’s blown up car was found... in a field in Smallville... on the Metropolis Police Department’s website. Huh?
Eeeeek! Is this a promo for ANOTHER new Mummy film, or some other cheesy horror flick? I’m halfway expecting Brendan Fraser to round the corner of the room, but nope, it’s Tess, once again wielding the Veritas diary that shouldn’t exist, and talking ridiculously about bats, parasites, altruistic choices of victims, and frozen yogurt. Okay, I made up that last part, but I was hungry. Tess repeats the dramatic conclusion she jumped to that was light years ahead of what the Luthors believed for the first seven seasons of the show -- the Traveler wasn’t the only boy to arrive in Smallville on the day of the meteor shower... And, it’s time for another episode of “Storytime with Tess.” I thought we were watching “Smallville?!”
Young Davis watches a peacefully grinning Kal-El being whisked away by his new guardians, as he himself is chased by the most oblivious set of commandos ever (they clearly did NOT come from the Kahana freighter on “Lost”), as they hop right past a smoking alien spaceship and chase poor Davis into a cage as he moans a very English-sounding “No!” A few flashbacky days later, Li’l Lex, clad in a stocking cap, wanders the halls of the mansion he has no business being in (as he was supposed to be virtually a stranger to it until his exile to Smallville in “Pilot”) with a parakeet, or budgerigar, or something that stops twittering and tweeting the moment it enters a room with mysterious humming coming from inside. Another eye is staring through the keyhole. Creepy. He opens the door, and there’s Davis, clad in very iconic black. “Are you Warrior Angel?” he asks. “Did you master English using the Cliff Notes version of Rosetta Stone or something?” Lex retorts. Just kidding. The two future villains run off to play as Lex’s poor dead birdy appears to have chirped its swan song.
The episode’s plot continues to be shot full of continuity holes that would sink a fleet of Titanics as Tess claims Lionel knew Davis wasn’t the traveler, because he determined Clark Kent must be... since way back in Season 2’s “Lineage” flashbacks... which is totally why he acted like he could care less about Clark’s existence for the next ten years and didn’t sweep in to abduct him or at least keep tabs on him for all that time, seeing as he was such a fanatical Veritas zealot. Whatever.
The next morning, Chloe and Clark are still together (did they have a sleepover at the Talon, roasting marshmallows and playing “Balderdash” or something?), and there’s the tow truck loading Davis’s charbroiled vehicle. Chloe anxiously asks after Davis’ well being, but the car was empty... unlike the field, which Clark uses his x-ray vision for the first time in a season and a half or so to reveal that it’s full of bodies in various states of dismemberment. Bet that’s going to decrease the property value of whatever negligent farmer owns this field. Like he wouldn’t have noticed a fiery exploding car in the middle of the night, or a mystery man digging up dirt to bury his victims for the past few months?
Davis awakens with conveniently placed and well-fitting clothes to put on his newly-healed-up body. Tess must’ve made a run over to Old Navy while Davis was snoozing. He does a wobbly walk into the Luthor’s stately study, only to flashback to a swordfight between his junior self and Li’l Lex. I love the acting here, though I seriously thought Davis was gonna go all red-eyed on the bald boy when he he pretended to “die.” Lex opens the St.-George-Armor-Box-of-Plot-Contrivance that he shouldn’t even know exists yet, causing Li’l Davis to writhe in pain, and his older self to take a major logic leap when he snaps back to the present. Professor Tess shows up for her daily lecture about religion, comparing Davis to Judas, Clark to Jesus Christ, and claiming that Jesus would probably have been known as only a modest teacher if he hadn’t been betrayed by Mr. Iscariot. Huh? Blasphemy, much, TPTB? Davis apparently doesn’t like her mangling of the message of Christianity either, and gives her a red-eyed slap that sends her sliding into the 159th piece of spindly furniture that’s gotten busted in the Luthor Mansion since the series began. Class is dismissed, folks.
At the Daily Planet, Chloe’s sipping coffee as Clark berates her for not jumping on the “Davis is a Serial Killer” bandwagon in spite of his blackouts and Doomy’s own misgivings. Chloe realizes that Denial is not just a river in Egypt, and admits that it looks like Davis truly is the serial killer her tasered, hate-mail-spewing soon-to-be-ex-husband warned them about. Oops. Though it’s not like either of these two haven’t worn the love-blinders before. Justin Gaines, Sean Kelvin, Kyla Willowbrook, “Obsession” Alicia Baker, or Ian Randall, anyone? “It’s time to visit the widow of Luthorcorp,” Chloe gives Tess a catchy new nickname, after saying that she knew Miss Mercer had looked into Davis’s records before she had. And when would that have happened, anyway? In Offscreenville on the 32nd of Never?
In the hospital, Tess is considering renting her own room, as Oliver, Chloe, Lana, Lois, Lex, and pretty much every major cast member should have done by now. I wonder what their medical insurance premiums must be... Anyway, Tess continues to mangle continuity, history, and common sense, blah-blah-blahing about Sageeth and Naman and trying to work Davis into the Smallville mythos placement that was already reserved for Lex. Nope, I ain’t buying it either, Clark, but nor is she taking his continued poor excuse for excuses and backpedalling about not being the red-blue-blurring Traveler. The wrong boy? Maybe I’m just watching the wrong channel.
Chloe is now at the Isis Foundation, sentimentally browsing through old photos of herself and Clark at the Smallville High Spring Formal. Okay, so that’s just wishful thinking. It’s grisly and morbid crime scene photos that she amazingly doesn’t have to retch into the nearest trash can to look at. Someone tall, dark, and murderous stalks in, and when she realizes it’s Davis, she does what any sane, rational person would do -- hurl down random nicknacks and pieces of furniture and run like the wind. He grabs her -- get your hands off my Chloe, you filthy animal! -- and whispers that he loves her. Double-eww. He wants her help to kill his doomed Doomy self. She goes wide-eyed with shock, as we cut to commercial break.
When Clark arrives, a few moments too late, as usual, he seems amazingly concerned for Chloe’s well-being. My inner Chlarker cheers with delight. He whooshes away to Dr. Grohl’s Mad Scientist Lab of Power-Suit Making Badness.
So Davis apparently thinks that he can die by taking a Kryptonite shower. Would that be like a spa treatment using alien mineral water or something? Well, I guess it’d probably give its users extra heads or appendages as side-effects, so it wouldn’t be worth it in the long run. Chloe tearfully chokes that she can’t kill Davis, and I find myself eternally amazed at the phenomenal acting talent of both Allison Mack and Sam Witwer. Who else other than the latter could make me feel even the slightest bit sorry for a serial killer? Clark zips in and begins guilt-tripping everyone in the room, including himself. Sure, Clark, you’re responsible for Davis’s fate... just like you’re also culpable in the canceling of “Pushing Daisies,” all the California wildfires that have ever occurred, and my most recent bout with a sinus infection. Davis is in looooove with Chloe, but he still wants to perish, Clark keeps going with his no-death hero mantra, Davis gets red eyed and shouts something unintelligible about redemption as CK ridiculously can’t punch his way through a plexiglass cage. As he transforms, lunging toward the pair, Clark instinctively moves between the killer and my favorite petite blond action hero, who pulls that lever of death, and rains Kryptonite juice that reminds me of Nickelodeon slime all over Doomsday. I love how quickly she pulls Clark away from the agonizing pain, and how protective the two were of each other in this scene, as always.
Back in Flashbackland, these Luthorcorp goons who should be arrested for child endangerment drop poor naive Li’l Davis in front of some random fence that surrounds absolutely nothing. As they get back in the car to leave him to his uncertain fate, we get a glimpse of a bony, spiky Li’l Doomsday arm that tells us justice is about to be served early... SMASH! Big Davis is all slumped over in his Kryptonite shower stall, but he still has time to put his hand on the glass and share a tender moment with his Watchtower crush before he croaks. Step away from the glass, Chloe. Do not feed or disturb the animals.
The next day, Clark tacks on another breaking & entering charge as he invites himself over to a contemplative Chloe’s unannounced. She’s cozied up on the couch under a quilt, looking at that Kawatche picture that’s supposed to represent CLARK AND LEX, Continuity Goofballs! He asks her the lamest question ever: “How are you?” “Well, gee, Clark, I just killed my friend/potential-new-love-interest, after getting my body transformed into my cousin’s, nearly getting sacrificed in a magic ritual by a lady in fishnets, my husband dumped me before sending me a slew of hate-mail, my marriage was wrecked, I killed a guy under the influence of a sentient supercomputer from your planet, and my memory was briefly wiped without my consent, which I still don’t know about... But other than that, I’m absolutely peachy!” LOL, she HAS had better days, even in Smallville. That’s the biggest understatement of the year. Chloe thinks she did the right thing THIS time, and so do I -- self-defense, people! Clark’s still riding his high horse about the whole thing, but changes the subject to brag that his father was wrong about the “ultimate destroyer” being much of a threat. You’d better knock on wood awfully quick, there, buddy. He makes yet ANOTHER stupid remark about his nightmares of being abandoned in the field as a child, which of course is what Davis had to go to. Whine, whine, pitycakes. And stop burning Chloe’s color print-offs in her fireplace -- ink doesn’t grow on trees, you know. Doomsday was doomed? Who would’ve thunk it?
At the farm, Clark thinks it’s totally natural to cover his Kryptonian butt by telling his boss he’s too busy to chat with her after making a personal call because he’s cleaning the feeding bin. Yup, his excuses are just that bad. But in his defense, he does put on a better poker face this scene as he scoffs at her Biblical interpretation of his destiny and that of the recently deceased (yeah, right) Davis. She’ll wait for you Clark -- just like about every other female lead on this show who’s not related to you. Lucky man. Except she calls him Kal-El, and he doesn’t even pick up on it with his apparently now non-existent super-hearing. And where’s his super-breath been for the last three seasons, for that matter? Couldn’t he just huff and puff and blow her out of the barn?
But no, she stealthily sneaks around her own inherited office, locking a mysterious cabinet to pull out one of those patented “Oh-no-this-can’t-be-good” silver briefcases. It’s SO not good. It’s the legendary Purple-Veritas-Orb-of-Death TM, now in traditional black or Kryptonite green! Use only as directed. Act now and we’ll also throw in a genuine imitation alien metal octagonal disk for absolutely free! Tess looks very pleased with this deal.
Chloe arrives back at the Talon after doing something mundane and normal as grocery shopping, then hears a ba-CLANG from the previously unseen and nonexistent basement. Putting on her reporter’s hat again, she creeps down those stairs into a place that has WAY too much lighting to be TOO scary to investigate. There are cushy red velvet theater seats, popcorn that’s probably older than my grandma, and movie posters from flicks I’ve never even heard of. “Evangeline” reminds me of “Nanny McPhee,” and “Lobo’s Road Trip?” Is that a subtle reference to that alien dude who looks like a member of the rock band KISS and appeared on the Superman animated series? Chloe finds a quaint little apartment set up down here, and something tells me this is neither the first Smallville appearance of Booster Gold, nor the return of a resurrected Adam Knight who was missing his Talon digs. “Don’t be afraid,” says a voice that does the exact opposite. It’s tall, dark, and doomed... HE’S ALIIIIIVE! Chloe, run! Call Clark! Call Oliver! Call the national guard! Call your written-off-the-show dad who didn’t even get an invite to your wedding! P.S. Is this Oliver’s idea of “taking care of Davis’s body?” ‘Cause if so, I’m never calling him for pest control services. It turns out Davis is not just invulnerable anymore... he’s immortal. Thus the title of this episode, which should’ve stood for “eternally contrived.” Chloe’s about to head for the hills, but he blurts out the lame excuse about not killing Clark if she’s with him. Right... that’s gonna work... for all of two episodes. That’s it, Chloe. Go back upstairs and have a nice cup of coffee before calling the sheriff’s department and your OTHER alien boyfriend. Oops. Nope. She just locked the door -- because it makes so much sense for there to be a lock on the INSIDE of a basement door in an old movie theater. CHLOE!!!
End of eternally aggravating episode.
Again, I gave this a 5 out of 10.
The good?
*Seeing recycled footage of Jonathan, Martha, and Lionel. “Smallville” really is going green, here, and me likey.
*The plot is developing pretty organically to an awesome season-ending climax. I really rather enjoyed the second half of this episode, and Chloe’s methods of protecting Clark could prove to be the undoing of either or both, which makes me sad for Chlo’, but also leaves me on the edge of my seat.
*The flashbacks were cool (when they weren’t butchering continuity). I loved seeing Li’l Davis and Li’l Lex, who were both awesome actors in their own right.
*And speaking of acting, all the leads were in prime form tonight! Allison Mack rocked the house, as she always does, pulling off a remarkable range of emotions including, but not limited to, conflicted, numb, cheery, filled-with-trepidation, and devastated. Sam Witwer once again made me feel a little sad for a serial killer, which is no easy feat. Cassidy Freeman pulled off another awesome performance as the ever-mysterious and devious Tess. And Tom? He was his typical Superman self here, and hit all the right notes... when Clark wasn’t taking the world’s guilt on his shoulders.
The bad?
*The Veritas storybook that made Smallville’s Season 8 continuity look like a very thin piece of Swiss cheese.
*The flashbacks’ way of rewriting stuff that had no business being rewritten.
*The Biblical references were so off-base. I like Biblical allusions when they’re used correctly, but to imply that Jesus wouldn’t be the Savior of the world without Judas truly seems blasphemous to me.
So, overall, some great acting moments, some poor characterization, lots of great guest stars, but even more continuity and mythos blunders and gaffes. What’s in store at the end of the season? Your guess is as good as mine. Stay tuned next time for another thrilling review from your friendly neighborhood...
--SGuthrie ><>’ :)--
geminis
04-05-2009, 09:05 AM
I'd hazard a guess and say the end of the season will be full of doom and gloom.
Great review, SGuthrie! Glad you took the time to write everything up again, this time without all the electrical intervention.
Cedric: you could give master classes. Also, your introduction was kind of like reliving my most recent birthday all over again. And it's actually been a long time since I've had Skittles, but their evil plot is working because I'm starting to taste the rainbow. Let's hope I don't technicolor yawn.
Belen and Farm Girl: I agree. They wasted time on Davis because he's going bye-bye. While I love Sam, I'm beginning to think I actually enjoyed Doomsday much more as a simplistic killing machine. They have been using him to create drama with Chloe too, but it's more like a melodrama.
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If Doomsday is the Ultimate Destroyer and he can't die forever, why does he need to pretend to be human? He hulked up when the kid thing wasn't working, why didn't he stay that way? Wouldn't it have made more sense for Zod to send Doomsday to kill Kal-el as a kid when he couldn't possibly defend himself?
Apparently, he wanted to give the son of Jor-el a sporting chance?
Zod: I've created the Ultimate Destroyer!
Faora: What, that Cadburry Cream Egg?
Zod: No my dear, this goo will hitch a ride on that secret spaceship that Jor-el is building, make itself appear like a frightened little human, and wait until Kal-el grows into a man so it can fight him.
Faora: If you know about the ship, why don't you just plant a bomb on it so it blows up right in Jor-el's face so he can watch his son die right in front of him?
Zod: *Silence*
Faora: While we're on that, why don't you use that with the judges so we can get a lesser punishment? I'm sure they would be interested to know that Jor-el is defying them.
Zod: It was all Brainiac's idea.
Faora: You mean that other puddle of goo you ordered fom Del-el? That thing has been corrputed ever since you picked up that virus viewing all those porn sites.
Zod: OK! So there are a few holes in my plot.
Faora: No wonder we're about to get thrown in the Phantom Zone, genius. Why didn't you unleash you Ultimate Destroyer here against our enemies anyway?
Zod: I think I'm going to ask the judges for the death penalty.
By the way, Cedric, great review. I particulary enjoyed the third paragraph after the opening.
Zod: An eternity of this?
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This was my reaction to Eternal:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2350/siskofacepalm.gif
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Never would have occurred to me but Sisko's reaction is classic!!!
Jaderoyale
04-05-2009, 09:40 AM
Cedric, as usual, amazing review.
LovelyLoisLane
04-05-2009, 10:20 AM
A couple of very nice reviews in here, good job guys :) Fallen, I liked that introduction better than last weeks. The Sour Patch Kids were a nice idea. Well, ‘nice’ being relative. :p When you don’t like the episode it’s always better to bring some humor to it instead of having a review full of spew. I myself am not so well versed with humor so I just have to go with bland honesty with how I felt.
I don't think the writing itself was poor but some of the story structure seemed executed to make the audience feel overly pitying. It makes me think of an old Breyer's Ice Cream ad where this little girl is over-dramatizing her day so her mother will feel really sorry for her and let her have some ice cream.
"It was raining, and I forgot my rain coat, and I got splashed by the bus. The other kids laughed at me and I had to walk home with squishy shoes and then I got lost in the park and . . . and there were WOLVES!"
It's cute used in a commercial where it is clear that it's a ploy, but when you know it's a ploy and that same method is being used on a dramatic television series? Well, it seems more than a little heavy handed. The moments of little Davis and some of the scenes with Tess could have very well had some guy in the corner holding up a cue card that says "Awww! Pitying sigh from the audience." Like they still do with some comedy shows and they used to do all the time with older serials.
They also had Chloe give some terrible excuses for not realizing something was up with Davis before now, or at least not admitting it. Though I am glad she said she was in denial instead of just feigning ignorance, because while I grasp that Chloe didn't know what ‘we’ know (though she does now, for the most part) I felt that she had to suspect SOMETHING was going on.
Apart from that, Davis Bloome is like a stalker in how creepy he is. So the warm fuzzy feeling I assume I was intended to have just fell flat.
I also still can't level with drug-addict Jimmy. I realize they didn't do too many exciting things with his character, but a drug-addict who would call Chloe names that she couldn't repeat because of the sensors? Come on! This is the woman that Jimmy was telling Lois he had no cause for wedding day jitters with, because he had picked the right person (Chloe). I understand why he'd be angry at Chloe, but ‘that’ level of anger from baby-faced Jimmy Olsen who now is also addicted to pain killers? *shakes head* Just no, and I call complete overkill with the angst on that one.
Clark was the only character I liked in this episode and I know it may be just a tad naive of him, but I was glad to see his 'Legion' attitude of ‘thou-shall-not-kill-there-is-always-a-better-way’ back in full force because it is one of the attributes that will separate Superman from the rest of the rather dark and oft-times vengeful superhero set. P/R sort of did a number with that trait of his but I'm starting to forget about those episodes and I am glad they returned Clark to who he was before they aired.
I loved seeing the flashbacks and I thought that for retroactive continuity (retcon) that the scenes with little Davis were woven in well, though the illustrations in the Veritas journal were over the top. Someone actually took the time to draw a sad little Davis locked in a cage when apparently, after Lionel found out he wasn't the Traveler, he cared so little about the boy that he dumped him in the alley? Come on!
Tess I am starting to like less and less. I'm also a little offended at the biblical statements she made and the show shouldn't have gone there. She started the show being quite interesting and was about one half Luthor and the other half was original Tess but when they tried to make her overly sympathetic and THEN have her acting as crazed about the Traveler prophecy as Edward Teague was, well, I hate that and I am not at all interested whether she makes it to next season or not.
I also can't find the romance between Beauty and the Beast very enthralling either and I just feel nothing during moments where I assume I should be moved. But this 'beauty' was very recently married to the man that this 'beast' nearly killed and now this beauty is going to be locked away with this beast who is nothing short of a serial killer. Yeah, not really feeling that. However I will say that the scene with the kryptonite cage was very well acted and I thought decently written and for once I did feel a little bit bad there.
This episode was just mired in the quicksand of manufactured angst and I had a hard time enjoying it, though unlike the P/R combo I actually did think the writing (in so far as dialogue and what not, not actual plot) and acting was fairly decent but the overall plot itself felt pretty heavy handed and now as a result we have: Tess obsessed with Clark, Chloe lying to Clark, Davis invulnerable to kryptonite. That's just wonderful!
But it was a passable episode and I can appreciate that they were trying to address the main villain of the story in a more direct way and I didn't mind the retcon as I thought it was decent as retcon goes. Minus the whole re-writing of the cave painting. That was made very clear, at LENGTH that it was Lex vs Clark on that wall, but the other retcons were alright. The writing was decent as well and the acting was good. Re-watch-ability though? Not too high but higher than some other episodes. The flashbacks were also, as I mentioned before, great to see. I liked seeing Lionel and the Kents the most.
So I rated 'Eternal' a 7.
Kryptochloe
04-05-2009, 10:23 AM
Okay, here we go again -- SGuthrie’s first attempt at a full-length review, take 2... and, ACTION!
Great review!! I really like it. Keep on the good work! Hope to see your reviews on next episodes :)
SGuthrie27
04-05-2009, 10:39 AM
Awww, thanks, geminis and Kryptochloe. I appreciate it -- I'm not sure the end result was as QUITE as good as the original one I'd written, but I still had fun. :-D
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
Ben10987654321
04-05-2009, 10:43 AM
Ok so this is my first attempt at this so I hope it isn't too bad. To be blunt I did not like this episode at all. I mean what was with the retcon? I could say a lot more but other people have pointed out all the flaws before me. Also what was with Tess and the orb because is it me or did she look like she was hearing funny voices in her head?
And oh goody 'Inconsistent Chloe' was back. I seriously hope there is a reason she has been flip flopping all season. Otherwise the writers need a good hard slap and told to stop ruining my favourite character.
I get Clark doesn't kill but this is Doomsday here and in the comics they end up killing each other so his moral high ground is a little shaky. I mean he'll do what? Stand by and let Doomsday destroy the world because he won't kill. Sorry not buying that.
So I decided to give this episode a 3 just because we got the pilot footage. I miss Martha and Jonathan. *sniff*
Mindylynne
04-05-2009, 10:47 AM
I finally got around to watching this episode. I wasn't in any hurry because Lois is my favorite and I knew that she wasn't going to be in this one, but I was pleasantly suprised. I found it interesting and set up things for the end pretty well
BadToad
04-05-2009, 10:50 AM
Oh Cedric, that was hilarious. And so, so accurate.
I feel I'm watching the Chloe Sullivan Show and her character has grown into a magnitude where she now shadows the protagonist of the story. She has the ability to make clark look weak and bad.
I keep feeling like they've moved Chloe into the spot that used to be occupied by Lana, but without the Clark adoration. This whole Chloe/Dooms thing seems totally ripped from the pages of a Lana story. Immediate trust of a shady character? Check. Sniping at Clark because he dares to question it? Check. Being a martyr? Check. Deciding to go to extremes in the name of "protecting" Clark? Check, ripped right out of the Lana S7 handbook. What happened to that speech Chloe gave Lana at Isis at the end of Wrath?
"It was raining, and I forgot my rain coat, and I got splashed by the bus. The other kids laughed at me and I had to walk home with squishy shoes and then I got lost in the park and . . . and there were WOLVES!"
:lol: :lol: Hilarious triple LLL. This whole "Sympathy for the Killer" thing that SV has going on is so heavy-handed and overdone. Heck, its gotten more attention then Clark's deeds as the RBB. How out of whack do the priorities on the show have to be for that be occuring?
Good job as well SGuthrie :)
ginevrakent
04-05-2009, 11:41 AM
This whole "Sympathy for the Killer" thing that SV has going on is so heavy-handed and overdone. Heck, its gotten more attention then Clark's deeds as the RBB. How out of whack do the priorities on the show have to be for that be occuring?
That is the part of the whole Davis/Doomsday story that bugs me the most. Davis may have started out as an innocent guy who couldn't control himself, but when he started killing people as Davis and manipulating Chloe by pumping Jimmy full of drugs, I simply do not care anymore. It reminds me of the students who committed the Columbine massacre. Sure, it is sad that those guys were teased in school, but I don't how anyone could sympathize with them.
I gave it an 8/10 ...
Only the flashbacks was cool ;)
saltyweeks
04-05-2009, 01:35 PM
And oh goody 'Inconsistent Chloe' was back. I seriously hope there is a reason she has been flip flopping all season. Otherwise the writers need a good hard slap and told to stop ruining my favourite character.
I'm glad Chloe is your favorite character! I really disagree than they are ruining her, though. I do so like her this season. As for the reasons she's been flip flopping, just look at all she's been through and experienced, and everything she knows. I think it's totally in character for her to be flip flopping all over the place. :)
I still have trouble understand how folks can look at a girl in the Smallville world...with it's super heroes, constant peril, magic, and time-travel...and be most shocked that a girl has a little date with a guy right after her marriage fell apart. Looking at Chloe over the years and in this season, I find that very IN character. Of course some people won't like that (and Clark won't) but it really does seem to be something Chloe would do.
Tompouce
04-05-2009, 01:38 PM
About details, FRENCH PEOPLE WAKE UP lol. I need your help. Pleassssssssssssse go and check : you have to see the scene when Clark is looking at the pic in the talon with Chloe in Eternal. When he took the pic which is on the table. There is a newspaper, I am sure it is A FRENCH NEWSPAPER. It is written in french: I can not find the name because I am so excited but it is a daily journal. It is written "la gar...s'affr(I think it is "s'affrontent". I let you imagine how I am : EXCITED:D
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No it is "la gauche"...and sure "s'affrontent". I just checked
TOMophilus
04-05-2009, 02:07 PM
^^Probably a Canadian French newspaper from Tom´s French class... :lol:
Tompouce
04-05-2009, 02:17 PM
^^Probably a Canadian French newspaper from Tom´s French class... :lol:
No, it is a French one for sure. It is one which still exists (I can not find the name, my brain is not working normally anymore with this !). It is a daily one. One of the most famous we have. I don't know if they have it in Canada but they are supposed to be in the "english Canadian side" if I am not wrong. Whatever. As I always say "once, we would be able to have a conversation in French here with all of you":D
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And anyway, remember Clark speaks French, check in Transference the "mademoiselle, parlez vous anglais ?":D
petitemimi
04-05-2009, 02:29 PM
About details, FRENCH PEOPLE WAKE UP lol. I need your help. Pleassssssssssssse go and check : you have to see the scene when Clark is looking at the pic in the talon with Chloe in Eternal. When he took the pic which is on the table. There is a newspaper, I am sure it is A FRENCH NEWSPAPER. It is written in french: I can not find the name because I am so excited but it is a daily journal. It is written "la gar...s'affr(I think it is "s'affrontent". I let you imagine how I am : EXCITED:D
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No it is "la gauche"...and sure "s'affrontent". I just checked
There's also the word "Présidentielle" so it's not about a canadian event. From the little I see, I can't tell if it's a canadian newspaper.
tibbit78
04-05-2009, 02:34 PM
I really loved this episode and the story behind Clark & Davis Bloome landing in Smallville. I liked how Tess revealed Clark's secret to both Clark & Davis Bloome, telling them all about themselves, and revealing that Lionel Luthor wrote about Clark Kent coming to Smallville & mentioning there was another little alien boy coming to Smallville.
Even though a lot of people don't like this episode, I liked this episode very much.
Tompouce
04-05-2009, 02:42 PM
There's also the word "Présidentielle" so it's not about a canadian event. From the little I see, I can't tell if it's a canadian newspaper.
To me, it is one the major french newspaper, I am sure. I would say "Le Monde" (the world). The presentation is characteric, look at this link http://www.gralon.net/articles/news-et-media/magazines/article-le-journal-le-monde---presentation-et-histoire-2045.htm.
you can see on the wall the blue line below the title "Le Monde" ? It is the same one we see in the scene of Eternal. I am certain. You know we have 2 or 3 main newspapers here and it is like written in our brains, you recognize the thing whatever you do. You know what I mean ?
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Petitemimi, you receive "le monde" in Canada ?
I love your review! It made me smile:p I pretty much just sit down every week to see what else will happen and be swept away to another place for an hour. I try to simply enjoy what Smallville presents me with!:)
Exactly! I really liked this episode, and (no disrespect to everyone's else opinions:)) this episode is more or less Tess' point of view, so I don't think we should be so hard on it.
Yes, if you're going to retcon, loose ends and plot holes will be left hanging, but remember we were complaining about the direction of previous seasons and that Smallville was going downhill. Yet here we are complaining that THIS SEASON is not holding true tp the PREVIOUS SEASONS that we were complaining about in the first place.
I think what we should appreciate is that in Season 8 (here's me conveniently and deliberately and happily forgetting about the Lana arc) the writers are trying to bring quality back to the show, and I guess if that means blanking out some of the bad direction of previous seasons, pretending they never happened, and appreciating the Doomsday arc for what they've made it, we might find and interesting and entertaining story.
....but that's just me...I never been a "details" gal. Just give me good lighting, a good score, and a dark, brooding, over-the-top serious mood in an episode and I'm good to go.
Hey, it's only 1 hour of our life every Thursday...what's the worst they can throw at us?:D
True. But the point is: Jesus is the son of God, who chose to live as a man among men to bring a message of redemption and salvation. He's a saviour because of what HE does, not becuse of what Judas does. Judas' actions may be the means thanks to which Jesus is brought to confront his death and resurrection, but it's his acceptance of that, and not the betrayal per se, what makes him a saviour. To say that without Judas there would have been no Jesus, like Tess says, it's practically blasphemy. Moreover, there's the fact that Judas and Davis are clearly not filling the same role in the tale. If anything, Davis is more like the Devil, or the Antichrist.
I didn't mean to sound as if Judas is what made Christ a Savior, I just meant no matter how the cookie crumbled, there had to be a betrayal so that the Romans could crucify him so that he could rise again. The act of betrayal isn't what defines Jesus as a savior, it was just a means by which he could prove himself savior. That's the nutshell of what I meant to say:) And I understand what you're saying about Tess, but if you think about it, she's not exactly a religious person or doesn't seem to be. Similar to Lex and Lionel, she's just a very knowledgeable person. In that respect, I can see how some may interpret the story the way she did. That's a lot of what the Bible is: interpretation and translation. That's part of why we have so many denominations. But that said, a lot of this episode was just from her point of view, even many things that were complained about such as Sageeth. We have to see that she's just taken everything she could find from the Luthors, and gone on her own assumptions. As I mentioned in another post, I believe Chloe is the "Judas" of this story, and Davis is just a version of the Romans or Hell. The whole issue with Tess I believe is that many viewers took a lot of what was presented in this episode and direct quotes from her and perceived it as a truth for all the characters in the show, or even just her interpretations as being meant to redo some of what we all thought to be concrete and irrevocable when pertaining to Smallville. We have to remember that CF is portraying her character's choices, growth, beliefs and understandings, excluding the other characters. This is what's going to lead her onto a path that's all together different from Clark's. Tess will base many things on what she 'believes' to be true and therefore will likely go astray. Anyway, everything hasn't played out yet, so we don't really know how this episode will fit into the grande scheme of things. Most shows are typically going to have some continuity issues, it's just a sad fact of life when dealing with episodic television. And Lea, I hope I didn't sound at all mean because I wasn't trying to pick on you for your opinion;)
And this is something just for the general public I suppose: I know it's not always thrilling when a particular storyline or tidbit from the past is dredged up, especially when it wasn't the best ever written, but I applaud Smallville. Heck, I'm even excited, just because this season they've brought so many things from the past back to the surface. Even just in mentioning, They've made this pretend world seem so much more plausible by just reassuring us that they have a shared past, that they have 'lived' for these eight years. In real life, good and bad, experiences are remembered and re-experienced many times, so I feel more comfortable when a television show demonstrates that there is a depth that goes beyond what is happening in that moment, in that season. Not to say that it's always done gracefully:rolleyes:...but I still appreciate it being done!:cool: Good grief, now that I feel like I've written a novel, I'm going to get off of here.
dvecly40
04-05-2009, 05:30 PM
the thing i hate most, and it is not just smallville, is when writers mess it up.
in this episode. lionel sent davis away...
yeah like that was going to happen...
come on . that was totally lame.
like oh we keep meteor freeks but have no interst in a second kryptonian.
hate that...
also hate when they do something and then reverse it.
what the he-- was the chloe with no memory thing.. come on . stupid.
and yet i love this show..
as much as it would pain me...end the series. let Clark fly and and become superman. (that would end what smallville is .)
:mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::cool::cool::cool::cool:: cool::D
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reading the posts and not sure where to put this..
so here goes.
Clark seems to say that killing is never acceptable yet he killed a few m/f's and sent some to the p/z so... which is better life in torment or death? Clark plays God and doesnt even realise it.
let's all remember that any super is a vigilante. They operate on their own.
I previously posted that I feel that Tess is guessing at what she thinks is right, but I have a feeling that the writers are setting it up to have Chloe being the 'Judas' and Davis being the Romans/Hell for Clark to conquer. I think that fits very well. :) And Superman being compared in any way to Jesus is not a new thing. There are many people that view him as a similar savior figure. His relationship with Lois is iconic. It really is not a stretch to me for this connection. But if you disagree I understand. And maybe he won't be killed. Maybe metaphorically Clark will have to kill a part of himself to be able to completely embrace what he will finally be. I don't know. I do know that he'll have to get over some stuff if he's gonna get past this Doomsday bit. Maybe he'll have to be willing to let Chloe die to save humanity or something. I suppose we'll find out soon.
This is true, I get it. But the problem is, the parallel between Clark/Davis and Jesus/Judas doesn't work. It just doesn't fit
Davis isn't a disciple of Clark's, he's not even Clark's friend. Their connection is and always has been hostile. They're oil/water. "Eternal" even goes out of its way to point this out.
Davis isn't destined to betray Clark, he's destined to kill him.
Clark doesn't need to be killed by Davis to fulfill his role as Superman. Can anyone explain to me why he would? He's already fighting the good fight. And he has already faced death.
Clark isn't a spiritual leader, or a philosopher. He's a man of action. He busts heads, he forces evil people to stop their evil business. He's not Gandhi, he's not Jesus; the difference is glaring. I'm reminded of the great line line in BtVS, when Buffy says, "Want to see my imitation of Gandhi?" then breaks a demon's neck. Then the punch line, "if Gandhi was really pissed off..."
The Buffy/Gandhi thing was great, it's a great joke. The Clark/Jesus, Davis/Judas thing is just as silly, but the writers expect us to take it seriously!
I'm not religious, but if I were, I'd be offended. Particularly since this episode aired so near Easter. Mixing the sacred and the profane like this is-- quite literally-- blasphemous. I'm an atheist, and I still find it to be in bad taste! Plus, it's bad writing, a dumb metaphor.
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Originally posted by: dvecly40
the thing i hate most, and it is not just smallville, is when writers mess it up.
in this episode. lionel sent davis away...
yeah like that was going to happen...
come on . that was totally lame.
like oh we keep meteor freeks but have no interst in a second kryptonian.
hate that...
LOL. I totally agree! Funny stuff...
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Are there allusions to the Last Son Of Krypton being similar to the Only Son Of God? I don't think anyone would deny there are, loosely speaking. But the main problem I have with Eternal is the suggestion that it was BECAUSE OF Judas that Jesus became the Earth's saviour. It suggests that without Judas he wasn't helping mankind and would never have been a saviour and that to me is complete and utter rubbish. Long before he gave his life he was preaching to the masses and performing miracles. Are we also saying that Jesus never wanted to do those things? Are we saying that he never wanted the responsibility of being Earth's saviour? Because that is what Smallville has said about Clark Kent many, MANY times and is saying again with Eternal.
To me it was an attempt at clever writing that falls flat on it's face. It would have been time better spent if they'd concentrated more on the gaping plot-holes in this script IMO.
Again, I think this is just the character TESS's interpretations and assumptions. She is the only one in the episode talking about this as if Davis were Judas and so on, so imho this is obviously just her making very likely false connections about the whole thing. I think Chloe will turn out to be Judas. And of course Clark will be following Tess's line of thinking for a while until he realizes(probably too late I might add) that Tess was wrong all along. Or at least just mislead with her predictions and placements of people around her in the biblical betrayal story.:)
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Chloomy! HA! That's really cute ^-^
LuckyLois
04-05-2009, 06:47 PM
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(CEDRIC'S POST)
Nearbye in upsidedown-ville the Kents observe a naked kid walk toward their truck with a goofy expression on his face. Legend has it that his first words were "All my fault."
We cut back to Tess who just can't believe what she is reading. Thats a coincidence. I can't believe what I'm [I]seeing.
Opening Credits. If the Pilot was filmed with this season's budget we would have gotten only 2 meteors hitting Smallville: One hitting the loft, and the other hitting somewhere offscreen.
(END CEDRIC'S POST)
My kids couldn't hear the Tv cause I was laughing so hard. I once again bow to the master. Great review.
SGuthrie, good job also. I was enjoying this season so much it's too bad the writers got off track the second half because I love SV and all it's actors so much!!:(
SGuthrie27
04-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Thanks, both LuckyLois and BadToad. I really appreciate the props. That review practically wrote itself, with as much cannon fodder as "Eternal" gave me to work with, LOL. Though ironically, I at least enjoyed it enough to watch it twice... Or maybe it was more fascination than enjoyment... I, too, loved Cedric's comment about the Season 8 budget version of the "Pilot" meteor shower. Now THAT would've been two seconds of a thrill ride. ;)
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
MsCali4Eva
04-05-2009, 07:08 PM
This episode was difficult to rate because the good and bad were almost equal - I ended up giving it a "6", because I felt that a 5 was too low. There were a lot of parts of the episode that had me shaking my head.
Good
1. Old SV footage
2. Davis story
3. AM, TW, and SW acting
4. Chloe flipping the Kryptonite switch
5. Tess is bad ass
Bad
1. The kryptonite cage - again
2. Chloe's decision - on keeping a pet monster in the basement of her "home"
3. How did Davis learn to speak and comprehend English - if he didn't have a nurturing environment?
4. Tess knows about CK! And Veritas! And the Kawayche Caves! Just like that!
5. I'm confused by CK's reaction after learning about Davis. I mean the thing was created to kill him, CK stood in the SV field where the monster stored the bodies, and that's all CK had to say about it? His reaction to Davis is way off base.
Candice
04-05-2009, 07:44 PM
12:30pm...Madison Turner's 7th Birthday Party... Desperate for a way to control the beast, Davis resorts to the unthinkable..
*chokes on soda*
Oh god, Cedric! Don't do that to a person! I almost chocked on my grape soda just by reading this first line! :eek::eek::eek: And yet I'm still laughing! :lol: Well at least the soda didn't go up my nose, huh? Thank god for small favors....anyways.... (continues sipping soda)... I'm a bit scared to keep on reading. I don't know who Madison is but I'm already calling her Maddie and I'm imagining her in sweet pony tails...eh...this can't end well can it? *takes deep breath*
Doomsday:
(after a long glare) I parked my bike on your neighbor's face. Hope you don't mind.
Allen: No. You can go ahead and park anywhere you want. My yard is your yard. Vroom vroom!
Doomsday glares aggresively at Allen. After half a minute of silence, Sherry speaks.
Doomsday: Did you get…(his eyes turn red)... the Sour Patch Kids I requested? :rotfl:
Doomsday is one bad ass sour patch kids eating monster isn't he? :lol:
Doomsday: I do magic. That's what I do. Now which one is your kid? (pointing)That one?
Allen: That's a lamp.
Doomsday: I meant behind the lamp.
Sherry: That's a coat rack.
Doomsday: (nodding) Yes. Yes it is. What were you asking me again? :rotfl:
So random. Yet so very, very funny! Lol. Oh my...I'm loving Doomsday here. ;):p
The lights flip back on and Doomsday, now in another part of the room, is holding down Madison and violently pummeling her. She's screaming in pain. After a few moments, Doomsday gets up, wipes blood from his hands, and takes a bow.
Doomsday: Tada!
Allen: OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! Get out of our house!!
Doomsday: That's fine. I'll be taking these Sour Patch Kids with me. Oh, and by the way, I'm coming back here to kill everybody in their sleep. Ciao! I'm out!
:eek::eek::eek:
So violent and yet I can't stop laughing? :lol: Is that bad? :confused::p
"I thought we were best friends, but obviously there was some stuff brewing beneath the surface for a while. How can be so close to someone and not really know who they are?" - said by the person who was Chloiac and hid it for the entire engagement and marriage, 7:10 PM. Preach it, Cedric! :cool:
Seriously, it's almost like the producers don't realize how utterly stupid and hypocritical they continually make Chloe. Or maybe they do realize and just don't care. Either way it's hella annoying. :\
So it's simple. C=2. 222 = hle. Protect Clark.222 X 9 - 1 = Chloe. It's simple math, guy.
Maam, I don't know what you're talking about. The pizza is $19.
But, it's only $2.22! You see, Chloe -1...
Maam, don't make me call a cop.
:rotfl:
By the way, now I feel like eating some sour patch kids, drinking coffee and eating pizza. Damn you Cedric and your knack for product placement! :lol::p
In this Veritas book there's even a drawing of Davis trapped in the cage. Come on, show. *face palm*
That story book was just THE STUPIDEST THING that PS3 have come up with all season, you know, besides the return of Lana Lang. I mean, come on!!! It was cringe worthy. Smallville turning into a friggin' disney fairy tell. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Oh you evil little Dooms. Killing birds is evil, but he probably killed it to protect Clark. So its OK. Right. And this must be one of the reasons why some people believe Davis to be more heroic than Clark. I mean, look at that! It's so obvious, isn't it? :rolleyes:
Daily Planet. Chloe storms into the basement of the DP with Clark in right behind her, upset that she failed to tell him about Davis' blackouts. Her explanation - she thought it a was low blood pressure problem. Clark doesn't let up and asks her why didn't she realize something was wrong with the guy when he confessed that someone was dark inside him. Her answer - she thought dark meant moody or bipolar.Chloe is a idiot. There's no way around that fact. She is completely moronic this season and hearing her continue to make such blatantly stupid comments makes me want to bang my head against a brick wall. Or better yet, makes me want to bang her head against a brick wall.
Seriously. She said those things. Yes, this season she is that stupid. :rolleyes:
She tells Clark that he was the reason why Davis was kicked to the curb. Stop. Stop before you begin, show. *face palm*
Another reason why this episode sucked. Clark gets the blame for everything.
Commercial Break. 'Lana, you're a hero!' Bad writing? Another unfortunate side effect of hunger. Grab a Snickers. :lol:
And yes, now I'm craving a snickers. You know I'm gonna get awfully fat reading your reviews. :rotfl:
My eyes are going red. Really? I poked my out at least 10 minutes before this scene...
Commercial Break. Skittles. Feel the Rainbow. Taste the Rainbow. Yeah, uh… before I agree to anything, can we just clarify what exactly "the Rainbow" is? :eek::eek::eek:
Oh gee thanks, Cedric! I'll never be able to eat a damn skittle now without my brain going to a gutter let alone see a skittles commercial without getting a grin on my face. :lol:
Hello. Mister Kent. Welcome to Chang's Chinese Restaurant. May I take your order?
Yo, yo, man. What's that say on the menu right here?
Oh. That's Pupu Platter.
Ah ha ha ha! Say it again. Say it again. What's that?
Pupu Platter!
Ah ha ha ha! Again! Again! Yo, what's this I'm pointing to?
That is fried wonton in sesame sauce.
Ah ha. wait. What? Oh. No. Above where I'm pointing. Above. My finger slipped.
Pupu Platter.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA! You a crazy, man, Mr. Chang! :lol::lol::lol:
Line in bold just made me chuckle so hard right now. :rotfl:
"What? What do I have to do with any of this?"
- Chloe Sullivan, 7:59PM.
"THATS what I've been asking! Thats what I've been asking ALL SEASON LONG!!" - myself, hysterical, seconds later. :rotfl:
Ah, same here, my friend. Same here.
Chloe, oh Chloe. First, I'm glad she at least admitted her feeling for Davis were more than friendly. She tried to sell Jimmy that lie and he didn't believe her. No wife tasers her sick husband for just another "friend". She withheld some key information from Clark in the episode Prey and other people died because of it. When she learned what Davis did she seemed more upset about the fact that he lied to her about it than him being a serial killer. True! True! I hope we see her take up responsibility for this, but I doubt it...
Her decision to pull that lever has now taken away his only weakness. If she had listened to Clark - sure he and Doomsday would have fought, but green-K could have been used to easily defeat him. There's ALWAYS another way besides killing, thats what makes Superman who he is. The most alarming thing is that Chloe is A-OK with killing, as she keeps proving this year. Chloe and Lana are both okay with killing. That's why they're no good for the man of steel, IMO.
But the end of the episode was the worse. Everything was there for her to make the right decision. She knew the guy was a monster that only Clark could deal with, she knew the consequences of harboring him in the basement. Davis didn't threaten her and he didn't run after her. He stood there and gave her a choice and watched her walk up those stairs. She could have left, she could walked out, but she didn't. None of the consequences I mentioned mattered because she loves him and that won her over. Make no mistake, she didn't lock that door to protect the world from Doomsday getting out, she locked it to keep anyone else from coming in. She doesn't want anyone like Clark trying to interfere. The answer for this is quite simple and I've actually pointed it out above. Chloe's an idiot.
To kick all three of them out of his life and surround himself with people like Lois who have the same moral compass as himself and would never condone killing or harboring fugives under the guise of "protecting" him. Exactly. This just proved how different Chloe and Clark are fundamentally. And that's one of the only good things about this episode. Chloe the one who betrayed Clark in season 3 and the one who condoned murder last season and who actually killed someone (temporarily anyway) this season is NOT a good person for the man of steel to be with. She's turned into poison just like Lana did a few seasons back.
In a nutshell, this episode = exposition, flashbacks, exposition, retcons, woobie Davis, biblical references, Chloe's plight. No wonder some people are saying this episode will be better than the upcoming one. I mean between all the retcons and lame exposition it became a sure winner! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Overall, great review!! :D Too bad we have to wait so long for your next one!
:(:(:(:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
IHeartClois
04-05-2009, 07:46 PM
This epi was great. 9!
SnowBird
04-05-2009, 11:09 PM
Okay, here we go again -- SGuthrie’s first attempt at a full-length review, take 2... and, ACTION!
SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEE... from pointless retcons and continuity blunders!
The bad?
*The Veritas storybook that made Smallville’s Season 8 continuity look like a very thin piece of Swiss cheese.
*The flashbacks’ way of rewriting stuff that had no business being rewritten.
*The Biblical references were so off-base. I like Biblical allusions when they’re used correctly, but to imply that Jesus wouldn’t be the Savior of the world without Judas truly seems blasphemous to me.
So, overall, some great acting moments, some poor characterization, lots of great guest stars, but even more continuity and mythos blunders and gaffes. What’s in store at the end of the season? Your guess is as good as mine. Stay tuned next time for another thrilling review from your friendly neighborhood...
--SGuthrie ><>’ :)--
I enjoyed reading your review with some fun humor. I feel the same way with what you wrote above. Good Job:)
And Lea, I hope I didn't sound at all mean because I wasn't trying to pick on you for your opinion;)
No, no, you expressed your opinion very politely. :)
I just felt the need to point that out, because I wasn't sure we understood each other correctly.
Anyway, you're probably right about it being Tess' flawed interpretation, and if this were about anything else it wouldn't bother me much, but since we're talking about a fundamental point of the Christian faith, I'm really unconfortable with the way it's been addressed. I'm not asking they cut out the comparison at all, I just wish they didn't jumble it up so much. I mean, yes, I can assume Tess isn't a religious person and doesn't speak with real knowledge of the matter, but to me, that just seems a little too much like making excuses for the lack of knowledge of the writers themselves.
By the way, this was hilarious:
If Doomsday is the Ultimate Destroyer and he can't die forever, why does he need to pretend to be human? He hulked up when the kid thing wasn't working, why didn't he stay that way? Wouldn't it have made more sense for Zod to send Doomsday to kill Kal-el as a kid when he couldn't possibly defend himself?
Apparently, he wanted to give the son of Jor-el a sporting chance?
Zod: I've created the Ultimate Destroyer!
Faora: What, that Cadburry Cream Egg?
Zod: No my dear, this goo will hitch a ride on that secret spaceship that Jor-el is building, make itself appear like a frightened little human, and wait until Kal-el grows into a man so it can fight him.
Faora: If you know about the ship, why don't you just plant a bomb on it so it blows up right in Jor-el's face so he can watch his son die right in front of him?
Zod: *Silence*
Faora: While we're on that, why don't you use that with the judges so we can get a lesser punishment? I'm sure they would be interested to know that Jor-el is defying them.
Zod: It was all Brainiac's idea.
Faora: You mean that other puddle of goo you ordered fom Del-el? That thing has been corrputed ever since you picked up that virus viewing all those porn sites.
Zod: OK! So there are a few holes in my plot.
Faora: No wonder we're about to get thrown in the Phantom Zone, genius. Why didn't you unleash you Ultimate Destroyer here against our enemies anyway?
Zod: I think I'm going to ask the judges for the death penalty.
:rotfl:
Also:
PS: Those are good questions. And there's a perfectly good answer to them - Shut up.
Pure genius.
Cedric, your reviews really deserve a thread of their own. I spent like half an hour looking for the other ones in the loved it/hated it threads. Not that it wasn't time well spent. ;)
SGuthrie27
04-06-2009, 04:40 AM
Hahahaha, NoSupeForYou, I don't think I'll ever look at a Cadbury Cream Egg the same way again, LOL! And referring to Brainiac as "That other puddle of goo you ordered from Del-el?" Priceless.
BTW, thanks, Snowbird, for your kind words of encouragement, and the quote! I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
justice league
04-06-2009, 05:43 AM
y does tess have the orb
La Donna
04-06-2009, 06:15 AM
In my opinion, this show has a very bad habit of using negative behavior and OOC moments to end a relationship. While in real life negative behavior and unusual moments and reactions do often break up a couple, it's not the only thing to cause separation. I bring this up because of Chloe and Jimmy.
I promise I'll try not to keep bringing it up, but I wish they had gone the route I thought they would a month or two ago. I hoped that when Turbulence happened, it would be without the Jimmy pill popping at the end. Then in Hex, Chloe looking like Lois would run into Jimmy, and for some reason Chloe decides not to tell Jimmy that she's really Chloe. Jimmy then unloads some of his fears and the problems he's faced in the relationship. He would say something along the lines of he feels bad luck seems to plague their relationship, horrible things keep happening to them, and that he doesn't want to tell Chloe because he feels bad that she's suffering these things as well and he doesn't want to add to her fears. Chloe then comforts him, with Jimmy still thinking it's really Lois. Later, after Chloe is shown to be feeling very remorseful for everything that's happened to Jimmy, she comes to the conclusion that Jimmy would be happier without being partnered to her and the many "risks" and "dangers" that her life is constantly involved in. Knowing Jimmy won't want to break up, she sucks up her feelings of love for Jimmy, and decides to end their marriage. She doesn't explain the real reason to him, but just echoes some of his sentiments, that bad luck and horrible events keep happening and it's just too much for Chloe. She says it's over, and Jimmy mourns the break-up, but starts to recover later in the season.
If that were to happen, Chloe would be the self sacrificing person who is giving up her happiness in order to ensure Jimmy will have happiness in the future, and Jimmy would come across as a self-sacrificing person who was hiding his fears and turmoils in order to protect Chloe from further stress. The audience would feel bad that Chloe had to give up Jimmy in order to save Jimmy from further fears and suffering, and the audience would feel bad for Jimmy because he suffered through events that he has no knowledge of why they happened and then his wife whom he loves has seemingly "left him". Both characters would be sympathetic.
Instead, the audience is divided into who is behaving worse in this break-up.
Chloe acted out of character in Turbulence when she didn't even try to investigate what Jimmy was saying, especially with her skills and resources, and the knowledge she has of meteor freaks and people with secret lives existing. It didn't make sense she wouldn't investigate Jimmy's claims, even if the argument Davis made was compelling. Then, when they had her tazer him, they didn't have her even warn Jimmy or ask him to stop. The tazer didn't appear as a last resort, though I think that's what the writers intended. And then, at the end, they added in Jimmy's statement that he felt that "marrying her was the biggest mistake of his life". There was no reason to have Jimmy say that. He was explaining his reasons for the breakup and separation quite well before saying that, and it didn't mesh with their relationship and the feelings he had for her. So a lot of Chloe fans felt that Chloe was forced into the situation and that it wasn't her fault and that Jimmy was a jerk to her, and a lot of Jimmy fans feel that Chloe was in the wrong the entire time and deserved it. The audience should have been made to feel sorry for both of them, but instead it divided the audience, giving the fans plenty of ammo to use against the other character.
Hex arrives and we get Chloe saying her marriage is over in the opening scene. They had a huge fight and Jimmy said the marriage was a mistake and that he doesn't want to be around Chloe right now ONE EPISODE AGO. And at the beginning of the next episode, the marriage is just over and in the past, with Jimmy no where to be found. The most we heard about the marriage came from Clark and Lois's conversations that were said to Chloe.
Which brings me to Eternal. Why oh why did they have to include that Jimmy put loads of curse words into his emails, and that he excessively made it clear that he wants nothing to do with her? While some fans who feel Chloe deserves it may be happy, it wasn't necessary to include to give us the picture of what was happening. I don't like that Jimmy did this because it seems to me that they had their first huge fight over Jimmy's accusations against Davis, and now he hates her guts. Most shows would have Chloe saying "He's made it clear that he doesn't want me to talk to him, email him, or call him anymore". Or perhaps "He hasn't responded to any of my calls, emails or attempts to see him". That would have been enough to get the message that Jimmy is still pissed at the situation and that the marriage is over. But instead, we get curses, insults and excessive rejection.
On Chloe's side, they added many things into this episode that didn't need to be there and made Chloe look bad. I hated her statement to Davis about thinking you know someone and then finding out you don't know anything about him. It was meant to be ironic that she was saying that to Davis, but it came at a time that didn't make sense for the situation. How is it that Jimmy's position is a huge surprise to her? He has had fears of her relationships with other people, namely Clark. He's felt insecure about that before. Then, he told her exactly why the marriage was over, and the reason was a valid one for him, that Chloe trusts other people over him. Why would that lead Chloe to imply that she thought she knew him but now discovered she had no idea what he was like. She could be referring to his use of rejection, insults and cursing in the emails, but then couldn't that be explained as someone who is pissed off and acting out? Why would that totally change how you see someone? It just came off as another misuse of "irony" the show loves so much.
Then, when Clark enters, she says "Call much" which is odd in and of itself considering that her and Clark seem to have a pop in without warning relationship. And, it made her look like she was doing something that she didn't want interpreted. While I fully understand her desire for a friend who will support her and that the meal could really have been just a thank you between friends, it just was a little too cozy to assume that romance had no part of it.
The other part is when Davis came to Chloe at Isis, and she freaks out and runs away. When he says he wants to know if she has feelings for him, her answer made it seem like she did believe previously that she had feelings for him when she was aware that Davis was asking in a romantic context. In Infamous, Chloe easily ended the friendship when Davis wanted more, and her marriage just ended. Why did the feelings she refers to have to be filled with romantic implications. Couldn't she have just said "I used to think you were my friend", or "I used to think you were a good man", or "I did care about you before, but I never knew the real you". Any of those would have kept the relationship on Chloe's end in the appropriate place for her at the time. Whatever romantic feelings exist on Davis's end for Chloe should have been kept on his end for right now and I think it's a jump to make it assume that Chloe's feelings have started or had started to become romantic.
And, of course, we get the moment when Chloe realizes Jimmy was right, and we get no hint that Chloe tried to make it right. She could have said one sentence to Clark about her apology to Jimmy, or she could have said something like "I want to tell Jimmy how sorry I am and that I was wrong but he's still not responding to me". That way, we would have known that she fully realized she was wrong and what the implication was for the ending of the relationship.
Now, don't take any of this to mean that I think Chloe is in the wrong fully or Jimmy is in the wrong fully. Chloe is my lady, and I like Jimmy. My problem is they either added things into the episodes that didn't need to be there and only served to make the characters look bad, or they left things out of the episodes that would have made the characters look better.
It upset me how Clark treated Chloe and when she found out about how he feels in Hex when he didn't know he was really speaking to Chloe. I felt bad for her. I think Jimmy had every right to be angry and upset in Turbulence, though he didn't even consider for a moment that to anyone else it would look like he was hallucinating because he had no proof and he had hallucinations during the episode. Jimmy was understandable and Chloe was understandable in the break up, but their behavior is being portrayed in a negative light, which leads some to view Chloe as the victim of Jimmy's attitude problem or Jimmy as the victim of Chloe's mistakes and choices. It's the writers, however, that made both characters be victims of the other's actions. If they were certain that they wanted Chloe and Jimmy to be victims, then they could have done that without degrading either character with OOC acts and statements.
Unfortunately, that situation surrounding Chloe and Jimmy's break up was distracting to me, and did take away from my perception of this episode.
The "past" and future implications being changed in Eternal from what we've been shown from past episodes and is set according to show canon is simply the product of writers who didn't achieve what could have been achieved. They wanted this backstory episode to bring Davis's origins and life into context for his actions and his ties to Clark, and so they created a backstory that ties him to the show and the arc. The problem is that they ignored the history of the show and past events, and then changed implications that the show has built in order to add to Davis's arc. They could have woven Davis's story into what was already facts for this show, without changing those facts. But they didn't, and that was a huge problem.
The acting was very good, but the material made the characters jump from one emotion and characteristic to an opposite or opposing one in the matter of seconds. It took away from the building and structure of who the characters are on this show. I enjoyed Clark's attitude to Tess at the end of the episode and enjoyed Tess's reaction to it. But, that's a side of Clark we don't get to see very often, and they used a scene earlier in the episode to show that the Clark we knew from the first seven seasons is still alive and well when Clark blamed himself for everything that's happened with Davis. So, which Clark is it? Strong and confident, or guilt-ridden over something that he couldn't possibly have been responsible for.
As for the ending with Chloe and Davis, I'm of the opinion that Chloe is doing what she's always done, which is trying to do what she feels is right and in the best interest of Clark and others, even if it endangers her or goes against what she wants to do. I think if she told Clark that Davis is alive and in the basement, and that she must stay with him to keep him from transforming, the Clark on this show would not allow it. He wouldn't put Chloe in that danger and he would never let her remain in that situation. He would have done anything to stop Chloe from staying with him. I think Chloe knew that and therefore kept it from others/Clark for the time being. She seemed truly upset and worried when she learned he survived and is now "invulnerable". She had no solution for this, so she wanted to warn Clark. Then, before she took off out of there, she heard Davis's statement that if Chloe stays with him he will no longer be a threat to anyone, especially Clark. She had to consider if that could even be possible and if there was any other way. If she warned Clark, he wouldn't let her be in danger to spare him from this destroyer, and he would be in severe danger by trying to remove Chloe from Davis. Chloe did what Chloe does and some others have done, which is to protect Clark from outside dangers and from himself if necessary. I think the future spoilers will bear this out, with Chloe trying to keep Davis from transforming. I also think that her actions in Injustice will be somehow tied to Tess's desire and plans to stop Davis, thus her seemingly working for or with the Injustice league. In the end, she won't be able to keep Davis from becoming Doomsday, and she'll be hurt in the process. I now fully believe she'll be around in season 9 and so I think that her return to full form physically and socially will be set up in the premiere for season 9.
I think what changes her relationship to Clark will either be Clark misconstruing what Chloe's intentions are so that the relationship is hurt, or Clark will be aware of some of Chloe's choices involving things he has opposed and will therefore change his view of her in some way. I don't think the friendship is over, and I think season 9 will give us their friendship. But if the spoiler's correct and the friendship is forever changed because of the arc this season, then I think that next season will just give us a Clark who is less dependent on Chloe and center their relationship around the JL instead of the constant visits to each other's homes, work places, etc. and the intense nature of their personal talks.
But, it could be a spoiler that ends up being true for this season's ending, but is no longer valid in season 9. They said forever, but with this show and the nature of some of the spoilers, it might very well not mean forever, and instead be the direction of only the current arc.
I wasn't going to do a review for this for the same reason I didn't for Hex because I'm still on vacation (only two days left in Hawaii:( ). I guess I ended up with a long post anyways, but at least it's 3 in the morning and I had an abundance of fun tonight that didn't slow down until about 1 am, and so I don't feel like I'm sacrificing my "Hawaii time" by making a long post.
And by the way, I see more and more people are doing reviews on these threads, and I think it's great. It makes for a better discussion when so many people take the time to fully explain and explore their opinions for the episodes. I like reading them and they definately add to the forum. So thank you to all of you who did a review for Eternal. I enjoyed reading through them and I hope you all do it again for Stiletto.
cma_454
04-06-2009, 08:00 AM
... the audience is divided into who is behaving worse in this break-up...
La Donna,
I would not be surprised to find that's the effect the writers were going for.
I still have to wonder why? What is their ultimate aim (assuming they even have one) in making both Jimmy and Chloe look bad?
I'm not sure I like where this seems to be going. Hopefully, I'm wrong and the writers are taking us some place good.
stenochick
04-06-2009, 10:35 AM
Like a hyponotized nutsy, she asks out loud what to do when you find a Judas in your mist? Davis looks confused, and she continues by asking who would Christ have been had Judas not betrayed him.. Just a teacher roaming the desert.
Yes. You are reading this correctly.
"I don't.. quite.. understand what you're getting at." Davis Bloom, speaking for all of humanity, 7:32 PM.
Oh! I finally get it!!!
Had Judas not betrayed Jesus to the religious leaders who then gave him up to the Romans on the charge of treason, Jesus would have remained alive and would not have been executed by crucifixion.
If he did not die a martyr's death, then he would not have needed to rise from the dead. Then, the idea that Jesus was the promised messiah and died for our sins would not have developed and become doctrine. He would have just been an enlightened teacher who died of old age, not the savior of the world.
TOMophilus
04-06-2009, 02:29 PM
If he did not die a martyr's death, then he would not have needed to rise from the dead. Then, the idea that Jesus was the promised messiah and died for our sins would not have developed and become doctrine. He would have just been an enlightened teacher who died of old age, not the savior of the world.
First, why would it be necessary to die for anyone´s sins? This story is just as absurd as the plot of Smallville. Second, what has this to do with the Superman story? Superman saves the day without having died before. Isn´t that good enough? Anyway, just more evidence that P&S have lost their mind. They should probably partner up with Mel Gibson and do fake bible movies... :rolleyes:
Bizarrolover
04-06-2009, 02:33 PM
Great analysis, La Donna! Iliked your interpretation of the Chimmy fiasco. The writes could have written this in a way both characters would look good, but instead they both came out as bad persons.
geminis
04-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Great analysis, La Donna! Iliked your interpretation of the Chimmy fiasco. The writes could have written this in a way both characters would look good, but instead they both came out as bad persons.
I did too. It seems like the writers lose all common sense, probably in part because there are multiple people. They really need more consistency and to pay better attention to history.
La Donna, I'm sure you're having a great time in Hawaii, you lucky girl, and I'm glad you took the time to post your thoughts on Eternal.
SGuthrie27
04-06-2009, 04:40 PM
LaDonna, you had an AWESOME post there. I totally agree with almost everything you said, and you put so much of what I've been thinking about the Chimmy relationship into very eloquent written form. Well done! I really wish that scene you mentioned would have appeared in "Hex," and that both characters were written in the way they've been created over the last seven seasons (at least in Chloe's case) and not in the contrived manner TPTB chose here. It leaves Chloe fans, Jimmy fans, Chimmy fans, and pretty much every other Smallville fan with a bad taste in their mouths about the whole debacle.
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
actaeon
04-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Why oh why did they have to include that Jimmy put loads of curse words into his emails, and that he excessively made it clear that he wants nothing to do with her? While some fans who feel Chloe deserves it may be happy, it wasn't necessary to include to give us the picture of what was happening.
I think it was necessary, because there has to be something to keep Chloe and Jimmy apart while the Davis drama unfolds. Chloe has learned the truth about Davis, she knows Jimmy was right. If Jimmy were cool and rational, all she'd have to do was apologize and that whole story line would deflate. That's why they had to establish that Jimmy won't talk to her, won't read her emails, etc.
If Jimmy and Chloe patched things up, Chloe wouldn't need Davis' "strong sympathetic shoulder to cry on". So the Chlavis story line would deflate.
It's much more of a story if Jimmy is angry past reason, and Chloe is driven into Davis' arms. Much to her peril. It's all kind of contrived, of course, all very melodramatic. But at least it's not boring.
dotsie23
04-06-2009, 07:54 PM
"Davis, everything that's happening to you is because of me". Oh shut up, Clark!
This seems to be Clark's apology to all the meteor infected freaks in Smallville. This was the exact same line he spoke to Jeremy Creek in the Pilot episode.:rotfl:
I think it was necessary, because there has to be something to keep Chloe and Jimmy apart while the Davis drama unfolds. Chloe has learned the truth about Davis, she knows Jimmy was right. If Jimmy were cool and rational, all she'd have to do was apologize and that whole story line would deflate. That's why they had to establish that Jimmy won't talk to her, won't read her emails, etc.
If Jimmy and Chloe patched things up, Chloe wouldn't need Davis' "strong sympathetic shoulder to cry on". So the Chlavis story line would deflate.
It's much more of a story if Jimmy is angry past reason, and Chloe is driven into Davis' arms. Much to her peril. It's all kind of contrived, of course, all very melodramatic. But at least it's not boring.
At the start I found Jimmy's reaction to recent events involving Chloe and Davis to be melodramatic. After all, he'd been open and patient with her( or as patient as one can be) while she was still dealing with the residual remains of her feelings for Clark, so why now?
But I wonder if Jimmy's anger is really so unexpected. After confessing the truth about his parents before marrying her, that implies he intended to go into the marriage without any secrets, as marriage ideally should be. I wonder if it is really too much to ask to expect the same from Chloe? To tell the truth no matter what except for when it comes to Clark and Davis? Jimmy was probably right to ask her why she married him in the first place. Not if she knew she could never be honest with him they way he would be with her.
I agree with you, I do think the entire story line as far as Chloe and Davis are concerned was obviously planned and while Jimmy's angry reaction is vital to the progression of their story, It's not as outlandish as I originally assumed.
Contrived, not completely melodramatic and not boring either. ;)
La Donna
04-06-2009, 09:00 PM
cma_454, I think you're right, and it upsets me that it could be the case. I don't know where this take on the story that they've set up could lead to that would make their actions necessary and worthwhile. Perhaps they'll surprise us, but I don't think that will be the case. The need for melodrama and victims outweighed their skills as writers and the effort they put into the story in the Chimmy break-up department.
Bizarrolover (Belen, I love that name, it's so unique), Thanks you! It's depressing isn't it? Knowing that it could have been done in a way that would enhance both characters and leave the majority of the audience feeling sympathy for both characters? If only the writers took time to anaylze what the characters have been through throughout the entire series, and how the characters would reasonably be expected to behave by the audience, then mistakes and OOC moments would be limited or eliminated.
geminis (Ann), Thank you as well, and I do feel lucky to be here in Hawaii. Tomorrow night I go back to the area around Portland Oregon where the weather will be far different from the 78-80 degree weather I've experienced down here. Plus, I'll miss my sister (who's also one of my best friends) and her kids like crazy. We used to live by each other and were like one giant joint family, but six months ago they up and moved to paradise! Hopefully, I'll be able to come back again in a few months for another visit.
And I agree with you that one of the problems is likely that the writers are different for each episode, so you never get the same writer for any episodes that follow each other. It makes for different versions of the characters at times, and stories that don't always tie into the greater story or logically progress from one episode to the next. If only they had two or three main writers (I'll be one! Me me me me me, choose me!) who worked on every episode, bringing in the other writers as a joint session. You could let the other writers (especially BQM, one of my personal faves) pen the initial script, and then the two or three main writers could make sure that the script ties into the series, the current arc, and portrays the characters in a believable way. But alas, this is not the case.
SGuthrie27, Thank you so much! What a wonderfully nice thing to say. I appreciate that so much. And I agree with you about the fans. Just reading the boards after Turbulence, Hex and Eternal will prove how divided the reactions are about what happened between Chloe and Jimmy. It's unnecessary. The only way I'd see someone being truly happy about the way things transpired is if they hate Chloe and feel that everything Jimmy's done is perfect because Chloe deserves it, or if they hate Jimmy and feel Chloe should never have been with such an immature person in the first place, and that the events on Jimmy's side are without merit. While I'm sure there are fans who feel that way, I think most of the audience wanted to feel sympathy for Chloe and Jimmy. While I think Chloe and Jimmy both deserve sympathy in this situation, I don't appreciate that the writers added in scenes that could take away from that sympathy.
actaeon, I hear what you're saying, but I disagree with your premise. I think that having Chloe say "He won't take my calls, or answer my emails, or let me see him", that it would have effectively portrayed the situation as Jimmy refusing to speak to Chloe because he's still mad. That would be a forgiveable offence since his feelings were so hurt in Turbulence. It would be understandable to that degree. I feel the cursing wasn't necessary in the scene, and only made Jimmy out to be reacting somewhat immaturely. By leaving out the curse words, Jimmy would have instead been portrayed as someone who feels strongly that his case is valid and is still too angry to see Chloe. That's understandable. It's reasonable. The cursing is not, in my opinion. It didn't make the situation any more real than it would have been without the cursing.
Jimmy could have been cool and rationale and still refused to see Chloe or re-kindle their relationship. Chloe trying to apologize later isn't something that a reasonable or rationale Jimmy would have to forgive and forget. Jimmy's stance was that Chloe trusted other people, even suspicious people, over him. If Chloe called and said "Jimmy you were right and I'm so sorry I didn't believe you", then would that change Jimmy's reason for the break-up? I don't think so. I think the show's trying to portray that the events of Turbulence pushed Jimmy's trust issues over the line, and so I don't think Chloe realizing she was wrong in that situation would have necessitated another try at the romance.
And dotsie23 (Doris), you are right, and they could sell T-shirts with that as Clark's catch phrase. Luckily season 8 has brought out Clark's other qualities, at least a lot of the episodes have. Hopefully Eternal is one of the last times we will see guilt-ridden Clark feeling responsible for events beyond his control. I won't hold my breath, though.
ChloeBot
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
I think that line about Jimmy sending Chloe those emails was so OOC. I couldn't even take it seriously. Jimmy has never shown that side of him. I mean yes he was pissed off in the previous episode but for him to go and curse her via email and then ask her not to contact him, which is a bit contradictory since he's obviously contacting her. I dunno, I didn't buy that line as something Jimmy Olsen would ever really do if you were being true to his character. The producers probably knew they had to break up Chimmy quickly and they added that line to explain why Chloe wasn't trying to patch things up with Jimmy. But to me it just left Jimmy looking really bad and that's not how I see him at all. Both Jimmy and Chloe have faults, but neither is a bad guy...and this scene made it seem like Jimmy was a jerk...which I don't' think he is at all. :(
Kal-el24740
04-07-2009, 12:53 PM
I give it a 2 but Zantana was hot ,,whew...
SGuthrie27
04-07-2009, 06:53 PM
Err... Zatanna wasn't even in this episode. But if she was, it would've been at least marginally better just by her mere presence. Maybe she could have "magically" made all those continuity errors disappear! ;)
--SGuthrie ><>' :)--
supercatmom
04-08-2009, 10:58 AM
What can I say - I gave it an 8 on the acting alone.
It was intense. Chloe, Davis, Tess and Clark's performances were stellar. In that order.
I am not usually a fan of dark episodes but this was different. All of season 8 has been leading up to a confrontation between Davis and Clark and this episode was part of the natural progression leading towards that.
SV has always been its own universe with its own twist on the Superman mythos.
Veritas in season 7 gave a new twist to the SV universe. Showing why Leonal came to Smallville when he did and also his fascination with the Kwatchee caves.
I liked how they pulled all these elements together.
Clark still doesn't know that Davis's dna was sent by Zod in the ship to become the Earth's and Clark's ultimate destroyer.
So it is natural that he thinks that if Davis had a better upbringing with parents like the Kents, Davis's life would have been different.
I hope Clark finds out about the Zod dna before the final showdown with Doomsday.
magic
04-08-2009, 03:37 PM
Davis is officially my new favorite character
trayx
04-08-2009, 05:42 PM
i really hope clark and chloe dont end there friendship i love them together on screen, i really hope it not chloe who is going to die but i read that chloe is not acting like herself and that why she works for the injustice. chloe and clark throughout smallville have always tried to protect each other i wud hate to see that end .
borednow
04-08-2009, 08:41 PM
"Davis, everything that's happening to you is because of me". Oh shut up, Clark!
:lol: Yeah too much!
This episode got a 3 from me.
Krypton935
04-09-2009, 05:52 AM
10!!! This was an amazing episode! I loved it!! Yeah that's really all I have to say!!! :D It was awesome!
Fantasy
04-11-2009, 01:01 AM
this episode was gj but its been lil worse coz there are 3 eps be4 DOOMSDAY so those last eps are worse so DOOMSday can be even better .......STILL HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE SEASON 9 :D:D
BlacKryptonitian
04-12-2009, 07:08 PM
“....he wasn't much of a challenge.”
<O:p</O:p
I swear I wanted to kill Clark <ST1:p</ST1:pwhen he uttered those uncaring words to Chloe. As usual he barged into her home uninvited, ruined something without so much as a thought to her. Took the picture from her hand, burned it, and at no point made reference to what she was going through. Didn't even seem to be considering it. No, once again it was brought back to <ST1:p</ST1:p<ST1:pClark</ST1:p's nightmares. <ST1:pClark</ST1:p's fears. His nightmares had been Davis</ST1:p' life as Chloe so potently pointed out, but did <ST1:pClark </ST1:peven care? Apparently not judging from his uncaring self-absorbed attitude. Her solitude, her grief, her anger, her tears had been for Davis</ST1:p. And he took all of it and made it about <ST1:pClark</ST1:p. Now that’s truly sad and pathetic.
<O:p</O:p
What a self-centered jerk <ST1:pClark</ST1:p is turning out to be this season?! Hell, if he keeps this up then I really hope Doomsday kicks his sorry aZZ in the finale, I really do! I hope he turns him into the "Red-Blue blur" alright and I don’t mean that figuratively.<O:p</O:p
Bizarrolover
04-12-2009, 08:30 PM
“....he wasn't much of a challenge.”
<O:p</O:p
I swear I wanted to kill Clark <ST1:p</ST1:pwhen he uttered those uncaring words to Chloe.<O:p</O:p
I don't think Clark was in any way trying to lessen the importance of Chloe's actions, he was just talking about Jor-El warnings. His exact words were
'Jor-el said he was the ultimate destroyer. He didn't turn out to be much of a fight.'
According to Jor-el warnings, I think Clark was expecting a huge fight with Doomsday but instead Davis was killed rather easily. The irony behind that statement is that Davis didn't die, in fact, he's even stronger. So I don't think he was being uncaring, Clark was being utterly naive and completely oblivious to the threat Davis is now to him.
tibbit78
04-14-2009, 03:59 PM
I think that line about Jimmy sending Chloe those emails was so OOC. I couldn't even take it seriously. Jimmy has never shown that side of him. I mean yes he was pissed off in the previous episode but for him to go and curse her via email and then ask her not to contact him, which is a bit contradictory since he's obviously contacting her. I dunno, I didn't buy that line as something Jimmy Olsen would ever really do if you were being true to his character. The producers probably knew they had to break up Chimmy quickly and they added that line to explain why Chloe wasn't trying to patch things up with Jimmy. But to me it just left Jimmy looking really bad and that's not how I see him at all. Both Jimmy and Chloe have faults, but neither is a bad guy...and this scene made it seem like Jimmy was a jerk...which I don't' think he is at all. :(
I totally agree with you about Jimmy Olsen, Chloebot. I feel the same way about Jimmy, his character and the emails to Chloe. It really does make Jimmy look bad.
Blur 26
10-18-2009, 07:33 PM
This episode was fantastic! I could feel the tension between all the characters. SW really made me look at Davis a whole new way, almost making Clark look like the bad guy. There were really too many good scenes to mention, but my favorite was after Chloe pulled the lever. My heart really broke for both Chloe and Davis. It sucked though that Chloe made Clark rethink sending Davis to the Phantom Zone. That was one of Clark's best ideas all season.
MannaBanana
10-20-2009, 05:09 AM
WORST Episode EVER!
Most of the Davis centered episodes werent so good, but this one takes the cake.
I makes me sad to not like a Smallville episode:(
Nimkong
03-06-2010, 09:55 AM
This episode was good.I liked how it showed davis past,the plot was good and the ending was good
svfanforlife
08-12-2010, 10:37 PM
This episode was dark, but not too dark. Liked the Tess/Davis scenes and also Chloe/Clark/Davis scenes too. I give it a 9.
BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
11-03-2010, 10:03 AM
I've heard pretty bad things about "Eternal" and I never got them.
The retcon at the beginning was just awesome, it totally made sense and gave Lionel a better reason to be in Smallville that day. Seeing Lex even though it wasn't Rosenbaum gave the episode an extra plus. The box from the first seasons was utilized so well here. This was so much better retcon than that stupid Veritas plot in S7.
I never would have thought they'd make Clark and Davis feel like brothers. I liked how Clark wouldnt kill Davis even though that seemed to be the only option. Not much happened in the dark episode but the character developement was just amazing. I've never felt characters in Smallville so much than the second half of S8 with this and "Beast" for example.
The ending, although predictable was just amazing and made the stakes go even higher. I don't get why everyone seems to think Chloe is OOC. If kryptonite cant kill a seemingly kryptonian person then Clark doesn't have a chance. So of course Chloe will do everything to save him. After the image of bloody Clark in "Beast" just futher emphasizes her fears.
Well deserved 10
ck123
01-25-2011, 05:48 AM
not so eternally but good^^
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