Chloe Watchtower = Legion don't know her?

[drew24]

It's very interesting how the writers of this show put that "twist" in the Legion episode where they said they've never heard of Chloe Sullivan. I just wonder how they'll make it possible for her name to just disappear or just be non existance in the future. With her being Clarks best friend and now being the Watch Tower of JLA how the heck can they convince us that Chloe in the future is never heard of.....Just curious.:\

[Iluvgreen]

They know who she is now!

[drew24]

yeah now they do because they wen't back in time and saved her. That's why I hate those going back in time scenario in a show or movie because it all just end up with too many paradox.

[Skaterpen357]

Perhaps in "giving up" Chloe Sullivan, she's going completely underground--the Legion knew her, perhaps, as "Watchtower."

Maybe?

[Just Another Guy]

Or they changed the future, so that they will know her now.

Maybe we'll find out when Cosmic Boy shows up in the season finale.

[dru-zod2501]

I don't know, it seems unlikely that even a picture of Chloe didn't survive along with other evidence of the current League if she's important to the Age of Heroes

[Harrison_Bergeron]

There are two possibilities for why the LOSH didn't know about Chloe.

1.Before Persuader destroyed the Martian Manhunter's crystal Chloe's mind wipe stayed intact after Brainiac was removed, thus she was no longer privvy to CK's superness and not worth mentioning.

2.She was killed by Doomsday shortly after the LOSH left SV. Clark changing the timeline with the LOSH ring changed the timeline that the LOSH was referring to.

Both of which mean that it was the Legion's presence that allow her to be part of history now.

[Supes_24]

I still hold out the belief that Jor-El will alter the reality or something to the one of the comics..Where Clark will don the persona of Bumbling Glasses CK, and Supes

After season 5 I pretty much just accepted that Smallville Clark is almost in a metaphorical " X-men Danger Room" . It would be really hard for them to pass off him busting onto the scene as Superman the old way, in Smallville's reality.

So whenever Clark emerges into that reality, everything will be mostly like the comics...where Chloe was never heard of

at least thats my Theory

[j-kent]

It's very interesting how the writers of this show put that "twist" in the Legion episode where they said they've never heard of Chloe Sullivan. I just wonder how they'll make it possible for her name to just disappear or just be non existance in the future. With her being Clarks best friend and now being the Watch Tower of JLA how the heck can they convince us that Chloe in the future is never heard of.....Just curious.:\

What they did caused a butterfly effect..something changed the rift so much now their present and future is probably different. Actually, the decision to travel there and stay there to help changed everything...they were largely responsible for saving Chloe...if the original timeline maintained and they left right after stopping the persuader- Clark wouldn't have saved Chloe and she would have died somehow in Brainiac's wake.... so I'm sure she's in the books now...

[Lilah]

Maybe she was known as Watchtower and not Chloe to protect her identity...

[cksidekick]

Yeah. I don't see why it would be so hard for her as "Watchtower" to erase Chloe Sullivan in the future. Or at least keep her name from becoming famous. Watchtower will live in history books. And I love it!

I can't express in so few words just how much I love the idea of Clark's sidekick graduating into her role as a hero in her own right. It's what any good sidekick is supposed to do right? At least the ones that survive long enough! She is going to be a sidekick for a whole TEAM of Super Heros now. And let's face it, this bunch of screw ups needs Chloe to get them organized. Chloe was born for this job!

Chloe Sullivan Rocks!






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[Jack-El49]

I agree! Chloe as Watchtower is the best use of the Chloe Sullivan character due to her computer skills, investigative acumen, and her encouragement of superheroic deeds.

Honestly, Chloe as a journalist may have been her childhood dream but being a force for good and justice, Chloe as Watchtower trumps the journalism career.

If whatever kills DD makes him stronger, then Chloe will need to be insulated/hidden when he returns someday.

[SGuthrie27]

Ohhhh, I really like this theory about the Legion knowing about Watchtower and not Chloe in the future, because her heroic identity is the more famous/recognizable one. I'll take whatever hypothesis leads to Chloe surviving the season finale, and hopefully the end of Smallville, too, whenever that happens. But it does sort of make your head hurt to try to figure out time travel paradoxes... They have to know who she is now after Cosmic Boy & Co. saved her from Brainiac. By the way, where did you hear for certain about that spoiler you mentioned, Just_Another_Guy? Am I behind on reading up on the Kryptonsite spoilers page or something?

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Kton4]

I still hold out the belief that Jor-El will alter the reality or something to the one of the comics..Where Clark will don the persona of Bumbling Glasses CK, and Supes

After season 5 I pretty much just accepted that Smallville Clark is almost in a metaphorical " X-men Danger Room" . It would be really hard for them to pass off him busting onto the scene as Superman the old way, in Smallville's reality.

So whenever Clark emerges into that reality, everything will be mostly like the comics...where Chloe was never heard of

at least thats my Theory



I agree

[Promise]

Chloe will not be remembered. This is just a setup to show Chloe is on the good side again before we get deep with the whole Doomsday/Davis/Chloe Arc. Chloe will die this Season.

[Aries83]

I think the reason they didn't know her might've been because in the future, she wasn't Watchtower because she abandoned that path. But now that she's chosen that path, that changes everything they said about her in Legion.

[G L]

Anybody Think The Legion Might Take Chloe To The Future ?? Like in the Justice League Ep Where History Files said Supergirl Never Returned from the mission the the future and the legion just presumed she die but she didn't the reason she never returned is because she decided to stay ??

[hero`s passion]

I`m not that good in DC...is Watchtower the official member of the comics, I mean like Green Arrow or Aquaman? so if they made Chloe a Watchtower, they can`t kill her, am I right?:)

[devilneedsaride]

I`m not that good in DC...is Watchtower the official member of the comics, I mean like Green Arrow or Aquaman? so if they made Chloe a Watchtower, they can`t kill her, am I right?:)

I wish.

In the DCU, Watchtower isn't a person, but rather the name for the headquarters of the Justice League. They could still conceivably remove her from continuity. :\

[hero`s passion]

I wish.

In the DCU, Watchtower isn't a person, but rather the name for the headquarters of the Justice League. They could still conceivably remove her from continuity. :\

it`s sad...hope they won`t kill her...I want to see Chloe one of them...It would be great for her and her fans I think:)

[devilneedsaride]

it`s sad...hope they won`t kill her...I want to see Chloe one of them...It would be great for her and her fans I think:)

Here's to Watchtower in season 9! *raises glass*

[hero`s passion]

yeah:)))))))*raises glass*

[FlyingHigh]

It'll be interesting to see if the show ever does address this issue. My question is: where did Legion get their history? And specifically, where did it get their history of Clark Kent? DP archives would be a good source, but how likely is Chloe Sullivan to be mentioned in them? Even if she was on their payroll and had a few bylines, there's nothing in that information to connect her to Superman, and after the events of Infamous, I doubt that Clark would allow her name to be included in another article about the RBB.

Another likely source would be JL records -- but the JL isn't going to be keeping meeting minutes in which members' full legal names are listed. Yeah, there might be pictures, and Chloe's might be included -- but frankly the thought that they're archiving members' pictures when said members are trying to maintain secret identities just seems like bad security protocol (Yeah, I know we saw those screen shots -- I thought it was lame). Records of missions are going to focus on outcomes, not on the role of dispatch. So I would doubt that the future would get much information on Chloe Sullivan from JL primary-source material. My guess is that if future historians were to speculate on the identity of "Watchtower" at all, they might logically guess that it was a duty shared by the JLers, depending on the mission, or performed by various people at different times (and from what I've read on other threads, the job was originally held by a civilian before it was taken over by MM, is that correct?).

The only information they'd really have to connect the two would be Smallville High records, Torch archives, and the yearbook. And unless they have Clark's yearbook specifically, they probably don't know who he was close to. So ... for all that it seems impossible that Clark's BFF is unmentioned in history, it seems to me they really wouldn't have many hard records from which to learn of their relationship.

[Jack-El49]

In Infamous, Clark reversed time. At the time, the DDS was after Chloe and Clark and maybe no one ever knew who Chloe was because she died some anonymous death in a cell.

By reversing time, Chloe takes on the role/duties of Watchtower for the JLA and I bet Rokk knows her name now.

[jpfort1957]

Doomsday was about to kill Chloe when Clark went back in time on Infamous.

[chlo-el]

There are two possibilities for why the LOSH didn't know about Chloe.

1.Before Persuader destroyed the Martian Manhunter's crystal Chloe's mind wipe stayed intact after Brainiac was removed, thus she was no longer privvy to CK's superness and not worth mentioning.


This makes sense. If Chloe didn't know Clark's secret she wouldn't have much to do with Superman. Jimmy and Lois were known from reporting on Superman and Chloe prob would continue running he Isis or something, since I don't think she would remeber anything about the JL. You know she may not even be in the Isis her since of purpose and reasons for doing that had to do w/ her experiences that surrounded Clark's secret.

So that could have really changed things. I think it's really lame how she could just be forgotten if she died saving Clark or protecting him. I mean if they can remember a freaking base ball why can't they remeber Chloe?

I think Chloe may go in the future though.

[J Jon'z]

Chloe will not be remembered. This is just a setup to show Chloe is on the good side again before we get deep with the whole Doomsday/Davis/Chloe Arc. Chloe will die this Season.

I think so too. No matter how much Davis loves Chloe, when he transforms he'll eventually kill her.

['Tonio09]

What they did caused a butterfly effect..something changed the rift so much now their present and future is probably different. Actually, the decision to travel there and stay there to help changed everything...they were largely responsible for saving Chloe...if the original timeline maintained and they left right after stopping the persuader- Clark wouldn't have saved Chloe and she would have died somehow in Brainiac's wake.... so I'm sure she's in the books now...

I sure hope so.