"Really...Even YOU?"

[lm1212]

Ok, so this may just be a dumb moment for me, but what did EDChloe mean when she said that to Clark at the Daily Planet?

[LovelyLoisLane]

Because Clark was checking out the goods there for a minute after commented on her tight shirt, and Chloe meant 'you too?' like it isn't the first time she's noticed someone admiring Lois' physique, and now Clark is another of those 'someones'

[gilliang]

I think she was saying "Even you?" either because she was expecting Clark to know it was Chloe, not Lois. Or because he was checking Lois out. One of the two.

[lm1212]

Because Clark was checking out the goods there for a minute, and Chloe meant 'you too?' like it isn't the first time she's noticed someone admiring Lois' physique, and now Clark is another of those 'someones'

Oh ok thats what I thought, but she said it as if another guy had approached her too, just threw me off a bit.

['Tonio09]

Yeah I was thinking that she said that because he didnt realize it was her.

[Dyanara]

Yeah I think it had to do with Lois' goodies. But the one thing that threw me off about that scene is why would Clark even bring it up.

[kelly1142]

My favorite part of that was Clark's reaction lol...his facial expressions were like, 'um...well come on!' LOL!

[eas]

Yeah I think it had to do with Lois' goodies. But the one thing that threw me off about that scene is why would Clark even bring it up.

Because he's Clark... he's a bit of a prude and he thought that EDChloe was dressed too revealingly, I guess.

Although, the only things showing was her stomach. I didn't think that the sweater and shirt were that tight. It was short, but not tight.

[Supsfan]

Ok, so this may just be a dumb moment for me, but what did EDChloe mean when she said that to Clark at the Daily Planet?

fixed

[REebee52]

I think it was pointing out that the Hex tricked Clark even. As soon as she said it she took him aside and talked about his secret. I think the reference to ED's figure was left for the one "Isn't there a limit to how tight a sweater can be to be in dress code?" or something like that.

[superjude]

I like the idea that it was because he was checking Lois out. But , I thought it meant that he couldn't see that she was really Chloe.

[kal-el_Girl]

I think that Chloe has Clark in a pedestal and she imagines Clark being this perfect man he notices things (that we girls that are not bombshells) wish we had. Not because we want to but because society imposes that in order to be visible you have to be attractive, if you aren't, well? welcome to the invisible world!

[curiosity]

Clark was checking out Lois. Clark was sooo funny in all of his scenes with Lois. Not just the roof or 911 call. I loved the framed Lois rules. That was too funny. Clark and Lois are great to watch together, and if they had scenes in every episode, that would be too good to be true.

[Lilah]

I thought it was because he checked her out. He commented about her tight clothing...

[moviefan2k4]

I thought it was because he checked her out. He commented about her tight clothing...I was honestly trying not to notice, but then I thought, "Aren't sweater vests supposed to be about 2 feet lower than that?" I mean, it was right at the bottom of the bustline, and combined with the shirt, I had to look at the floor more than once. Thank God they finally got rid of it.

[Lilah]

^LOL. Well, some vests aren't that long. But it was funny how she was trying to fit into her clothes in Lois's body. And the fact the Clark called her on it, showed he has been checking her out... lol... That whole scene was really great.

[LovelyLoisLane]

^LOL. Well, some vests aren't that long. But it was funny how she was trying to fit into her clothes in Lois's body. And the fact the Clark called her on it, showed he has been checking her out... lol... That whole scene was really great.

Yeah, that is definitely what he was doing, :rotfl:

Clark: Lois?

EDChloe: Thank God! Clark!

Clark: You couldn't have been deported that quickly, why aren't you in Mexico?

EDChloe: *silence*

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_DressCode.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=DressCode.png)

Clark: Isn't there a limit to how tight a shirt can be to meet dress code?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_AdmiringTheGoods.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=AdmiringTheGoods.png)

EDChloe: Really? Even you?

Clark: Well . . . uhh . . . .

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_CaughtOut.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=CaughtOut.png)

[lm1212]

Yeah, that is definitely what he was doing, :rotfl:

Clark: Lois?

EDChloe: Thank God! Clark!

Clark: You couldn't have been deported that quickly, why aren't you in Mexico?

EDChloe: *silence*

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_DressCode.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=DressCode.png)

Clark: Isn't there a limit to how tight a shirt can be to meet dress code?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_AdmiringTheGoods.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=AdmiringTheGoods.png)

EDChloe: Really? Even you?

Clark: Well . . . uhh . . . .

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/th_CaughtOut.png (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/KaraStarbuckNY/SVLoisNClark/?action=view&current=CaughtOut.png)

lol yeah the second to last facial expression says it all :lol:

[Iluvgreen]

I thought it was because he didn't know that it was her.

[LovelyLoisLane]

lol yeah the second to last facial expression says it all :lol:


I know right? :rotfl:

First assistant guy is all excited to see Lois and then Clark is all 'Helllooo Nurse!" No wonder Chloe was like "Really?" :lol:

I'll take light hearted Clois over heavy handed Clana any day.

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I like the idea that it was because he was checking Lois out. But , I thought it meant that he couldn't see that she was really Chloe.

Not at all, which is why Chloe's comment came AFTER Clark's comment and appreciation of the tight shirt. Especially after she says "Even you?" and Clark looks all caught out.

"Well . . . uhh . . ."

I was laughing it up. Clark, you dog! :lol:

[Dyanara]

'Helllooo Nurse!" :

That's the exact line I was thinking of that was going through Clark's head.

[bigblueplanet]

There were casting sides leaked prior to the airing of this episode. In the original script, I think that there were some scenes where there were some folks who appreciated EDChloe's figure in AMChloe's clothes (because they're a couple of sizes too small). So, I think that scene was a reference to that, because EDChloe expected better from Clark.

This was kind of tied into her comment to him about how he doesn't look at her like that... meaning, he's appreciating and noticing EDChloe in a way that she never saw him appreciating AMChloe.

Thanks, sana. This clarified the line for me.

At first I thought she said that b/c Clark didn’t recognize her but how could he, right? He just saw EDChloe sitting there as *Lois*. There’s no way he could suddenly figure it out by having a casual convo like that. One less question mark in my head. :)

[amalie]

I did love that line, Clark's facial expressions were brilliant. I can totally understand EDChloe's reaction too; It's not hard to imagine all the looks she'll have been getting off men wearing that top, she didn't expect Clark to be one of them. He's not as innocent as you think Chloe ;)

[SuperheroFan87]

I think that Chloe has Clark in a pedestal and she imagines Clark being this perfect man he notices things (that we girls that are not bombshells) wish we had. Not because we want to but because society imposes that in order to be visible you have to be attractive, if you aren't, well? welcome to the invisible world!

A little off topic: Come now Kal-El Girl, don't sell yourself short like that...........I'm sure you are a very attractive young woman, give yourself more credit!:)

[Tompouce]

Yeah I was thinking that she said that because he didnt realize it was her.
I think the same. Chloe seems surprised Clark doesn't recognize her loool:lol:

[costas22]

I found the line a bit harsh.How was he supposed to recognise her at first sight?Did she recognise him in Transference?And that was after he played her until he almost kissed her."Don't you wish,Miss Sullivan"?Clionel was the best!

[Supsfan]

I found the line a bit harsh.How was he supposed to recognise her at first sight?Did she recognise him in Transference?And that was after he played her until he almost kissed her."Don't you wish,Miss Sullivan"?Clionel was the best!

Well he did keep pointing out all the ways EDChloe was not like Lois Lane.

[costas22]

Well he did keep pointing out all the ways EDChloe was not like Lois Lane.

Yes but after he talked to her for 1-2 minutes.Chloe was mad because he didn't recognise her at first sight!

[bigblueplanet]

Yes but after he talked to her for 1-2 minutes.Chloe was mad because he didn't recognise her at first sight!

Like sana explained with the ‘casting sides’ reference, I think what she meant was the way he reacted with her tight shirts. :D

[costas22]

Like sana explained with the ‘casting sides’ reference, I think what she meant was the way he reacted with her tight shirts. :D

You think so Tomo?To be honest,i didn't notice anything.That was after Zatanna's first appearance as well as Lois' stunning outfit at the birthday party and i was still mesmerized:D!

[zHeN_zHeN]

I loved that part! Too bad she didn't give him a chance to explain himself! :lol:

[costas22]

And also,let's not forget that Clark didn't realise his mother had been possesed by Dawn Styles even though she was dancing to Ashley Simpson!But maybe you are right.Chloe's line might have been about how he was looking at her.I didn't realise he was looking south!

[bigblueplanet]

You think so Tomo?To be honest,i didn't notice anything.That was after Zatanna's first appearance as well as Lois' stunning outfit at the birthday party and i was still mesmerized:D!

:lol:

Actually I didn’t think so at first. I also thought she meant that Clark didn’t recognize her but like you said, it’s impossible for him to figure it out that fast, right? But after what I learned in this thread I re-watched the scene and it makes sense. Just look at how he is grinning in a *make fun of her* way. LOL

[costas22]

But did someone else look at EDChloe like that?I don't remember anyone else at the bullpen doing that.

[Bizarrolover]

Lois is chestier and taller than Chloe so the shirt was not only tight at the bust but so short that showed part of her abdomen. And Clark noticed immediately and was openly checking her out. I think that what really surprised Chloe is that, for a prudish and reserved man who usually blushes at the sight of girl's underwear, Clark had a typical male reaction and was very outspoken about it. That showed her how comfortable Clark is around Lois, because the Clark she knows is never so forward with girls, not even with Chloe herself.

[wingster55]

I found it to be a bit shallow on Clark's part mention it.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I found it to be a bit shallow on Clark's part mention it.

Maybe a little, but not in a real terrible way and we ALL have our moments of appreciating the scenery. ;)

Plus, frequently in the past Clark was played to almost be like a demure-maiden with how shy he was when 'physical' or 'sexual' situations came up.

I think it was nice, and had me laughing out loud, to see him being a fully functioning heterosexual adult male and checking out the goods, and to his credit he did look embarrassed and caught out when Chloe called him on it, and quickly let the subject change.

[wingster55]

Checking is one thing but mentioning it is another.

[bigblueplanet]

But did someone else look at EDChloe like that?I don't remember anyone else at the bullpen doing that.

It was obviously cut from the scripts. Or maybe they did shoot the scene but was deleted I think. (But I did notice some guys are smiling at her in a ‘more than necessary’ kinda way includes that gofer who brought her a coffee. lol )


Lois is chestier and taller than Chloe so the shirt was not only tight at the bust but so short that showed part of her abdomen. And Clark noticed immediately and was openly checking her out. I think that what really surprised Chloe is that, for a prudish and reserved man who usually blushes at the sight of girl's underwear, Clark had a typical male reaction and was very outspoken about it. That showed her how comfortable Clark is around Lois, because the Clark she knows is never so forward with girls, not even with Chloe herself.

Yep. ITA.

[costas22]

It was obviously cut from the scripts. Or maybe they did shoot the scene but was deleted I think. (But I did notice some guys are smiling at her in a ‘more than necessary’ kinda way includes that gofer who brought her a coffee. lol )
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Oh yeah,you need surgery to whipe the grin of the gofer's face!Clark is so comfortable with Lois because it's part of their banter.She tells him about the cows,he tells her about her shower time and her attire.I think Chloe has been a witness to this in the past.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Actually though, hasn't Clark made a mention of Lois' clothes before?

This time was good humored but I think back in "Identity" he got a little prickly about how fancy she was dressed in her apartment when she said she had a date. I'm not sure though . . . but hey, Lois' comments on his lack of fashion sense all the time. Not so much lately however, but that is understandable.

Tom Welling - Dress Shirt and Slacks. Nuff said. :D

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Oh yeah,you need surgery to whipe the grin of the gofer's face!

I LOVED that guy! :rotfl:

He was so excited to be running errands for her and the mug he put her coffee in had hearts and teddy bears all over it and said 'bear hug' on it.

"You'll remember my name someday!" Aww, how cute, he has hope. :p

He even had a name! Clark said it when he asked EDChloe if 'what's his name' forgot to bring her her morning coffee, because she was acting strange.

Shoot! Now I can't remember. Jeff? Joe? Jeffrey? Joseph? Someday Lois and I will BOTH remember his name. :p

[costas22]

You'll remember my name someday!" Aww, how cute, he has hope. :p <!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->

Who knows?Maybe he was the guy at First Class.Lol!

[amalie]

It was Jeff :)

[workshyslacker]

I thought it was because he checked her out. He commented about her tight clothing...

I must be really naive because I didn't think he was checking her out. I thought it was just friendly banter... and maybe slightly admonishing, in a friendly way.

I have made comments like that to guys.. and I'm certainly not checking them out or flirting with them. :\

[LovelyLoisLane]

It was Jeff :)

Thank you. :) I knew it was a 'J'

Anyway, I already thought that Clark had a slip-up ( I don't think he realised what he was doing until Chloe said something ) where his eyes were taking the scenic route, and then after I capped it and re-watched it twice, I'm positive.

It wasn't so much what he said as it was his comment coupled with his roaming eyes.

[amalie]

I must be really naive because I didn't think he was checking her out. I thought it was just friendly banter... and maybe slightly admonishing, in a friendly way.

I have made comments like that to guys.. and I'm certainly not checking them out or flirting with them. :\

I seem to say that kind of thing to my sister and very close friends an awful lot i.e. "You want to wear a skirt with that belt" etc. We're close enough that she doesn't take offense. I've never done it to a member of the opposite sex though although I'm sure I would if I had male friends who went around with rather revealing clothing on.

[workshyslacker]

I seem to say that kind of thing to my sister and very close friends an awful lot i.e. "You want to wear a skirt with that belt" etc. We're close enough that she doesn't take offense. I've never done it to a member of the opposite sex though although I'm sure I would if I had male friends who went around with rather revealing clothing on.

I say that to my close friends too, and anyone I'm friendly with (or who can take a joke) because I would be just ignoring that elephant in the room, and be too busy sniggering about it...:D

[Dresden]

I found it to be a bit shallow on Clark's part mention it.

Not shallow, but immature I would say. A male noticing a female's body is not shallow at all, but very natural. It's something that an average heterosexual male will notice. Does that mean that he will obsess over it or be completely distracted by it? No. He will notice and move on. But to not notice, well that's expecting too much. Men are attracted to females and if they are beautiful or have beautiful bodies we will notice. You cannot help that. It's natural. It's nature.

But going back to the reaction, it was a bit over the top and very immature. I almost expected him to be like, 'Ooh! Boobies!' or something. I mean I know that Clark is supposed to be this ultra conservative guy but he's been with a woman before and he's in his twenties already. The sight of breasts, whether small or large, where in a loose shirt or form fitting shirt, shouldn't shock him or get such a loud expression from him.

His reaction was very little kid or teenager. He saw and he couldn't help but smile and then turn around in wonder why everyone else wasn't staring. It was a bit comical, which I guess was more the point than how logical of a reaction it was.

But I personally didn't see the humor in it. Moreover, the shirt/sweater was form fitting but not overly so. It was just short, basically...and so not that revealing or sexy, but I guess the fact that it was hiding large breasts was too much for Clarkie to handle.:lol:

Poor guy. What is he going to do when he and Lois finally get together? Sigh. It's times like these I would say that SV-Lois needs a real man, not an immature twit like Clark is sometimes portrayed to be...

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I must be really naive because I didn't think he was checking her out. I thought it was just friendly banter... and maybe slightly admonishing, in a friendly way.

I have made comments like that to guys.. and I'm certainly not checking them out or flirting with them. :\

I don't think you are naive. I think his reaction was somewhere in the middle, but I think what people are stating is that he notices Lois's body and that's true. My point is that who wouldn't notice. She has a very beautiful body. Does that mean that everyone has to be attracted to it? No. But will you notice it? Yes, especially in form fitting clothes. Still, Clark's reaction was very childish. I think he was partly admonishing her, but not mostly his reaction displayed shock. And that's why I had a problem with it because it seemed like a high school Clark reaction and not a daily planet older version of Clark reaction. If that makes any sense...but because this ep is a comedy I think that's why it was presented that way. At least I hope so for Lois's sake...because Lana may have been fine with an immature Clark but Lois is clearly looking for a real man to be with her...

[workshyslacker]

Not shallow, but immature I would say. A male noticing a female's body is not shallow at all, but very natural. It's something that an average heterosexual male will notice. Does that mean that he will obsess over it or be completely distracted by it? No. He will notice and move on. But to not notice, well that's expecting too much. Men are attracted to females and if they are beautiful or have beautiful bodies we will notice. You cannot help that. It's natural. It's nature.

But going back to the reaction, it was a bit over the top and very immature. I almost expected him to be like, 'Ooh! Boobies!' or something. I mean I know that Clark is supposed to be this ultra conservative guy but he's been with a woman before and he's in his twenties already. The sight of breasts, whether small or large, where in a loose shirt or form fitting shirt, shouldn't shock him or get such a loud expression from him.

His reaction was very little kid or teenager. He saw and he couldn't help but smile and then turn around in wonder why everyone else wasn't staring. It was a bit comical, which I guess was more the point than how logical of a reaction it was.

But I personally didn't see the humor in it. Moreover, the shirt/sweater was form fitting but not overly so. It was just short, basically...and so not that revealing or sexy, but I guess the fact that it was hiding large breasts was too much for Clarkie to handle.:lol:

Poor guy. What is he going to do when he and Lois finally get together? Sigh. It's times like these I would say that SV-Lois needs a real man, not an immature twit like Clark is sometimes portrayed to be...

I don't think you are naive. I think his reaction was somewhere in the middle, but I think what people are stating is that he notices Lois's body and that's true. My point is that who wouldn't notice. She has a very beautiful body. Does that mean that everyone has to be attracted to it? No. But will you notice it? Yes, especially in form fitting clothes. Still, Clark's reaction was very childish. I think he was partly admonishing her, but not mostly his reaction displayed shock. And that's why I had a problem with it because it seemed like a high school Clark reaction and not a daily planet older version of Clark reaction. If that makes any sense...but because this ep is a comedy I think that's why it was presented that way. At least I hope so for Lois's sake...because Lana may have been fine with an immature Clark but Lois is clearly looking for a real man to be with her...

I enjoy reading your posts because IMO, you always argue your points well. Though, on this occasion, I have to disagree with you. Clark and Lois have a close friendship where they both tease each other, (the "wild cherry" comment previously) and he was returning her the favour. And I thought high-school Clark would react differently if Lois dressed in a revealing manner; he was flustered when Lois jokingly suggested that he had been "checking her out" in Facade, but here, he seemed confident, with a dry sense of humour. Anyway, you're right, it was played for comedic effect more than being totally pc, although others may disagree. :)

[Dyanara]

I dont think it was immature or inappropriate, Clark has a thing for pointing out when Lois is showing too much skin in his opinion and he was just doing the same thing. I dont know if it could be taken as an "ooo boobies" reaction because he has seen them naked, in a bikini top, in a bikini top all up in his face...I think he was just stunned that she would wear something like that too work. Plus he probably has a problem, though unconsciously, with other guys looking at her goodies.
I dont think his reaction was highschool at all, he noticed, he commented that her outfit might be against the dress code and thats it. Its not like he couldn't take his eyes off of her chest or couldnt hold a conversation.

[xrayvision]

Maybe it's because Clark didn't notice that "Lois" was wearing Chloe's clothes and she expected him to be more perceptive than that.

[sunset]

I agree with the other posts: Chloe realizing that Clark has noticed Lois' figure just like other heterosexual males she passed by on her way to the Daily Planet.

[supes0]

Not shallow, but immature I would say.


I didn't see it that way. I saw it as an extension of their relationship, they say whatever they're thinking to each other, polite conventions be damned.

He thought she was wearing something inappropriate and blurted it out.

He would never comment about anybody else's clothing choices, which is why Chloe's "even you?" made me laugh. The polite farmboy? Never.

But with Lois he is not polite, he is not always kind, he just says what he thinks, good or bad.

[Violet-Shadow]

Although I did feel Clark was sort of checking out Lois in that scene, I took EDChloe's comment to mean that even Clark couldn't tell she was Chloe. At least, that's the way I took it. Although, that didn't make much sense to me because she hadn't even said much to him. How could he know that it was Chloe unless she spoke? And even when she did, he didn't know anyway. But still, couldn't it have meant that Chloe expected Clark, her bff, to see through her exterior and instinctively know she was Chloe?

[smallvillerocks45]

I initially felt that "Chloe's" reaction to Clark was referring to the fact that he could not tell that she wasn't the real Lois. She was wearing clothing that didn't fit right, she didn't know any of the people who were talking to her, and when she heard Clark's voice, she said "thank God, Clark" because she was expecting him of all people at the Planet to know something was off.

Part of her annoyance could have been with the fact that Clark inspected her enough to see she was wearing a tight shirt, but it is kind of hard to tell... but I thought it was a cute scene.

[drvr8]

I think that Chloe has Clark in a pedestal and she imagines Clark being this perfect man he notices things (that we girls that are not bombshells) wish we had. Not because we want to but because society imposes that in order to be visible you have to be attractive, if you aren't, well? welcome to the invisible world!
very interesting insight from a female perspective and as a male I realize it now that yes, unattractive women are in general invisible to us males. Unless they make themselves known in some other capacity, or unless we see someone from behind, we generally don't take a second look if we find a female unappealing to us. That's basically most males who are visually oriented/visually stimulated...(i know there's more depth to a relationship, but if women fail to turn our heads, it could be a very short relationship ;) )

Initially as a male viewer, I thought the comment meant that he couldn't tell the difference outright...and I didn't think twice about the comment about the dress code on a shirt that tight...mainly cause Lois generally wears pretty tight outfits, often times cleavage is visible...if anything for me, I thought wearing a shirt + a sweater was a conservative approach although i did find it odd that it seemed a little short and we could see her abs when she sat down...that's something that Lois generally doesn't wear.

[Bizarrolover]

Actually though, hasn't Clark made a mention of Lois' clothes before?

This time was good humored but I think back in "Identity" he got a little prickly about how fancy she was dressed in her apartment when she said she had a date. I'm not sure though . . . but hey, Lois' comments on his lack of fashion sense all the time. Not so much lately however, but that is understandable.


I agree with you, Clark pointed out how 'little' Lois' dress was in Identity and how tight her shirt was in Hex. Both comments were about clothes he thought weren't appropriate for the occasion. So not only he pays attention to what he's wearing, I think it also has something to do with other men seeing her wearing so little as well. Territorial anyone?

[Habits]

Checking is one thing but mentioning it is another.

Oh please, he said nothing wrong or lewd in that scene. It's not like he said, "Oh Baby!!! You look so hot in that!!!" If anything he was simply saying, "Isn't that a bit tight for work?" Plus when someone wears something that tight/revealing it's almost impossible not to notice unless you wear blinders all the time.

Besides there are more colourful things said on this forum every time TW of JH have their chests exposed so are all those that comment "shallow" as well?

[IHeartClois]

LOL the scene was funny but honestly I didnt think the shirt vest combo was too tight at all, it was ok, in fact I didnt even notice anything, except the fact that it was a bit short which just didnt look good..but not cuz of the revealing part but because it looked like the clothes were too small for her...which I guess was exactly the point.

Clark is just hilarious! The comment he made about the red dress in a previous epi ("Identity' was it?) was even funnier cuz he said something about wearing very little on a the first date, Lois was just wearing a red dress, and it wasnt super mini or anything...so yea I think it just comes down to Clark being too damn conservative, but it looks cute on him!

[hero`s passion]

I think She talked about he didn`t know she was Chloe, but He thought she talked about him noticed her tight shirt...IMO

[Minela]

Clark always checks Lois out. Ever since S4. But, I must say that he has matured a bit in his ogling. In S4 he would look, swallow, and then look embarrassed. Now, he just has eyesex with her.

[pizzahead2490]

This goes hand in hand with what Clark says in Idol "Lois, you tell me the color of your underwear everyday!"

They have such a comfortable relationship. They can say anything to each other.