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davidbrenton

03-26-2009, 06:55 PM

"Cheers to that." after Chloes speech about not looking back, I was very happy because it officially put Clark in the moving on mode.

How do you feel?

abbaspice1

03-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Chloe thinks he is ready!

But after Lois put up the walls, he better buy some strong climbing boots.

thehenry89

03-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Loved that scene

WickedJenn

03-26-2009, 07:07 PM

I *hope* he's moved on.

With this show you can never tell.

Alexander III

03-26-2009, 07:13 PM

Look how easily we can get back at Clois story after Lana departed...I'd doubt anyone would complain about Lois being Clark's rebound after this episode, of coz they won't be in love again that quickly. To answer ur question, yea he's beginning to move on emotionally.

Carolina87

03-26-2009, 07:16 PM

::looks puzzled:: What's a Lana?? :confused:

myankskent

03-26-2009, 07:16 PM

kryptotrite

03-26-2009, 07:21 PM

:rolleyes: No he hasn't. The writers, Chloe and Lois are forcing the issue. Give him a darn break.

latingirl

03-26-2009, 07:23 PM

have someone idea how much time have passed between Turbulence and HEX?

'Tonio09

03-26-2009, 07:24 PM

I sure hope so! It seemed like it.

lm1212

03-26-2009, 07:24 PM

::looks puzzled:: What's a Lana?? :confused:

yeah, i'm confused about the name "Lana" as well...who the heck is that?! :confused:

Dresden

03-26-2009, 07:32 PM

I think that Clark is starting to move on, but how he is doing it really frustrates me. TPTB seem to be indicating that since Clark can't have what he wanted first, since he can't change the past, he's going to look ahead to the future. That's just not good enough for me.

But that's how life works sometimes. You don't always have a choice in what you leave behind. And sometimes even if leaving something behind seems like something terrible, like a punishment or a curse later on you can see that it was actually a blessing.

I remember having to leave college my second semester of my third year to tend to my sick father. At that point I was in a pre-medical program and had already been accepted into a medical school (granted my GPA remained high and I followed a few other requirements). When my father became sick I had to not only drop out of college but I had to quit the program and pretty much say goodbye to something I had worked on so hard for not just college but throughout high school too. I was upset and held resentment for a long time. I stayed out of school for two years until my father sadly passed away. Then I returned to college and I realized that I was not interested in the medical field anymore. While tending for my father I began tutoring children at a small daycare near my neighborhood to make a few extra dollars and the teaching bug bit me. I became an education major when I returned to college and then became a science teacher. Five years later, I'm a lead teacher at a great high school and I've never been happier. I'm also married (my wife is the director of the special education services at my school district) and I have two one year old twin boys. My point is that things sometimes change for a reason. I think Clark's future will be a lot brighter than he may imagine right now. :)

snookie16

03-26-2009, 07:36 PM

Clark is moving on you can see it in his eyes both between him and Chloe his eyes him and Lois. Clark is maturing and I think he does not want a rebound relationship right now. The women he thought was the love of his life turned out to be someone that betrayed and manipulated relationship.

colibri

03-26-2009, 07:53 PM

Yes, definitely. He's also doing it with more maturity. I'm glad that Lois and Clark can be friends despite the problems. It looks like he's going to have to work now for Lois or do it by being the RBB.

sunset

03-26-2009, 07:55 PM

I think Clark has an emotional maturity of a "Peter Pan"!

NinaDavis

03-26-2009, 07:58 PM

yeah, i'm confused about the name "Lana" as well...who the heck is that?! :confused:

Is " wool" in spanish...

theotherJane

03-26-2009, 07:58 PM

I *hope* he's moved on.

With this show you can never tell.

Exactly. This show has been one step forward, two steps back, more times than I'd like to count.

But we can't deny that Chloe's line made him come to some sort of realization not just about Lois but about himself.

stenochick

03-26-2009, 07:58 PM

I say yes, that Clark has moved on because the way I interpret what happened in Power and Requiem is that Lana chose her life's purpose with the power suit over a relationship with Clark.

I don't see it as Lex forcing them apart. I see it as Lana deciding that she loves Clark but not enough to want a life with him and not staying to fight for a cure for the krypto-radiation.

It may have been presented differently on screen, but that is how I choose to look at. Once a man is dumped, he must move on emotionally. That's all there is to it.

LovelyLoisLane

03-26-2009, 08:02 PM

I loved that Chlark scene we had with them downing on the fact that they both need to get ahead with their own lives and not just for 'destiny' or 'fate' but just because living in the past sucks and they need to do something that makes their lives complete and enjoyable.

The coffee cup toast was very nice, I thought it was good to see that Chloe and Clark are able to still level with eachother like this. I've been feeling like there was some distance building between them and maybe there still will be, but that was a great moment.

And I clearly see them both moving on and I will also toast with them for that.

kelly1142

03-26-2009, 08:07 PM

I think he has.

He may be afraid of that fact and not completely facing it yet, but there were so many hints tonight.

Framing Lois' rules.
Answering her voicemails, talking to her on the phone (even when he was off with Bart lol)
The fact that he and Lois are clearly having conversations about the Chimmy situation, it's not just surface stuff
The 'constant puppy dog eyes'
That he knows her moods and her routine

And on a shallow note, he also seemed to not mind the tight clothes that much LOL!

I also thought he acted a tad possessive, the way he quickly moved next to / behind Lois when the cop was talking to her.

melissan02

03-26-2009, 08:11 PM

I think Clark has an emotional maturity of a "Peter Pan"!

I agree. It's not so much a question if he's moved on, but has he grown up? I'd answer both of those w/ a big fat NO!!!!:mad:

Var-Zol

03-26-2009, 08:18 PM

He's got the hots for Lois and yes he has moved on, the Superman spit curl on the roof proves it, that was the writers nod to us that they're making him more like Superman now.

Kschreck

03-26-2009, 08:22 PM

Yeah I think Clark has moved on from Lana. In Smallville land it's probably been a couple months. I think we will start to see more Lois and Clark stuff towards the end of this season and more throughout season nine. At least that is the vibe I have been getting with the last few Lois episodes.

Alania

03-26-2009, 08:26 PM

Batman/Superman#1

03-26-2009, 08:27 PM

I say no since her speech probably had to do with his wish which i didnt hear.

paolinki25

03-26-2009, 08:28 PM

Little by little, I guess....With Clark, you really can't be sure.

clois-destiny-forever

03-26-2009, 09:41 PM

He's definitely moving on. No one even threw out the name Lana tonight. It was awesome!

IHeartClois

03-26-2009, 09:55 PM

Yea I think he has moved on cuz now we know he definately has feelings for Lois, although in the previous episodes this season I was really not seeing anything from Clark...

Mr.Magic

03-26-2009, 10:06 PM

::looks puzzled:: What's a Lana?? :confused:

Stop it, you Zatanna wannabe. I don't need things growing on my ssa. :p

ps: While I am at it. This one goes out to C.K. ANAL EB NETTOGROF!

SGuthrie27

03-26-2009, 10:08 PM

He's totally moved on, though I can't help but wonder if he wouldn't regress again if Lana suddenly showed up with a cure for her Kryptonite irradiated status. And I'm not a Lana hater at all! I'm just saying that I think Clana ran its course and had its beautiful moments, and now it's time for Clois to take it's natural progression (if I can't have Chlark, of course). So yes, as things stand now, I DO believe Clark has moved on and is ready for something new, or at least to take a break and see how things go between him and Lois.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

BadToad

03-26-2009, 10:10 PM

I think Clark is moving forward with his life in a positive way. And I think thats a very good thing. Emotionally, I think Clark realizes that he has feelings for Lois, but I think he wisely realizes that there he's not quite ready to make another romantic leap at the present time. Which, IMO, is a wise decision. With another season ahead, I think we have time for Clark to get his romantic house in order, and I'd actually prefer for the show to take a time-out with this, and let things develop over the next season.

bennettbc2331

03-26-2009, 10:23 PM

yes

superjude

03-26-2009, 10:27 PM

I think he is beginning to move on... I hope that it continues....

susangail

03-26-2009, 10:48 PM

Yes, he's moved on. But I don't think he's running into Lois's arms any time soon. Even if he realizes a few episodes from now that he loves her, he'll swallow it.

herolee10

03-26-2009, 10:48 PM

Clana4Life

03-26-2009, 10:55 PM

Yeah, I think he's moved on as well. I mean when asked about what he wished for at the moment, no where was his thoughts about being reunited with Lana. Nor has Clark mentioned Lana in a regretful/angsty sort of way since their departure from each other.

I think Clark's has just accepted the outcome of this relationship for what it is.

While I don't disagree that he is moving on - I think it's a process, I did want to add that he was never asked about his deepest wish. Zantanna took something that Clark casually said outside to Chloe and she granted that. The wish might have been different if she had actually asked him, "If you could have your deepest desire/wish fulfilled - anything, what would it be?" So I think it's a bit out of context to just say, he didn't wish to be reunited with Lana, because he didn't really get to "wish" for anything. With Chloe, she granted her wish - Chloe actually had the opportunity to make a wish. She just took the first thing off of the top of Clark's head. Given the same opportunity that Chloe had or Oliver, I'm not sure what Clark's serious wish would have been.

prodigykane

03-26-2009, 11:38 PM

I think he is moving on to bigger and better things. I think that it is about time.

Wicked Lois

03-27-2009, 03:46 AM

::looks puzzled:: What's a Lana?? :confused:

:rotfl:

Are u over 18? If you arent. I cant tell.

Clark/Lois-fan

03-27-2009, 03:48 AM

He has moved on

ChlarkerFan

03-27-2009, 04:27 AM

"Cheers to that." after Chloes speech about not looking back, I was very happy because it officially put Clark in the moving on mode.

How do you feel?

Well he did literally cheer to moving on from his past so you can't get any more literal than that unless you expect Clark to say, "I'm moving from Lana Lang" which is not something I ever think the producers would say simply because they seem to want to make the whole clana arc disappear and well, who can blame them? So yes, Clark is definitely moving on. I was quite shocked with the toast but glad at the same time. PS3 are finally doing it, they are having Clark admit to moving on. Wow.

SupermanRox

03-27-2009, 06:29 AM

Yes, I do think that Clark has begun to move on. While he might not be ready to start a new relationship just yet he is definitely moving in that direction.

myankskent

03-27-2009, 07:08 AM

LoveHurts38

03-27-2009, 07:57 AM

He is moving on slowly.

House of Brock

03-27-2009, 09:31 AM

workshyslacker

03-27-2009, 09:33 AM

He's moving on. Baby steps. The man doesn't like to be rushed!:D

bigblueplanet

03-27-2009, 10:46 AM

Clark is moving on like......... for the gazillionth time. (Okay I admit that was a bit harsh. But I didn't want to re-watch all the S1-S8 episodes and count how many times *he was seemingly moving on*....so please forgive me.) He always say that, you know. Cheers to that and this, and let the past go cos it's the only chance to have new one blah blah. Well, whatever you say Clark. Of course we believe you as long as there's no S10. :rolleyes:

haya0509

03-27-2009, 11:02 AM

Yes, he is moving on.
Though I hate to say it, I hope the bring lana on for a episode or two next season and That since she was last on she has now cured herself from the radation and Lois and Clark has started their relationship. Then Lana gets jealous and tells Clark she wants him back. Then Clark weighes the decision for a little bit and comes to the decision that lois is the only on for him.

mr lane

03-27-2009, 11:15 AM

Minela

03-27-2009, 11:29 AM

Clark had been moving on, he had been moving on since the first episode of S8. That is why, to me, the whole Clana ark made absolutely no sense. Now, yes, he is moving on again, and it just seems like whatever. If the whole Clana arc hadn't happened. If she had just not interacted that much with him while she was here or if he hadn't gone back to her... well, than this whole thing we're in now would have gone way smoother. IMO

Sunny8

03-27-2009, 11:41 AM

Yes.

Mickey_Bickey

03-27-2009, 11:59 AM

"Cheers to that." after Chloes speech about not looking back, I was very happy because it officially put Clark in the moving on mode.

How do you feel?

David, I'm glad to find this thread! I was thinking of starting one entitled "Cheers to That" myself!:lol:

Yes, Clark is moving on and has now moved on! That statement alone coming from Clark tells the entire audience that Clark is not going to be looking back at Lana any longer.

The seal came at the end of the episode where Clark was holding the framed rules in his hand, and Lois told him to add "keeping the games on the field" to that. The look in his eyes was priceless! He is going to do anything but! Amazing job last night by both ED and TW!!! My favorite Clois episode ever!!

Mr. Clark Kent27

03-27-2009, 12:04 PM

Yes, and also a temporary "yes." Because Clark still isn't sure whether or not he wants to accept Lois as his new girlfriend possibly because he thinks he can never get over Lana.

Mickey_Bickey

03-27-2009, 12:05 PM

The problems is that this is fiction, they have the power to control ocurrances and they chose not to; Clark is being forced to move on, he's not doing it naturally. The same thing happened in the beggining of season 8, when Lana left in the end of season 7, he was forced to move on. Only this time he's not mentioning Lana. Ít should have been happening naturally, not forced.

What's more natural than Clark Kent and Lois Lane, Alania?:confused: I never bought the whole Clark obssessed with Lana story quite frankly. If anything, that was forced!

Tom Welling's performance in last night's episode spoke volumes about how he wants his character portrayed! He knocked the cover off the ball, and made it more than just believable to me. His looks, strength, emotion and interaction with ED was the best I've seen. Think back to Requiem. His heart was not in it, and I said it then. Power and Requiem were not believable by any means!

Last night was the most believable and great performance I've seen from Tom Welling since before Legion! Clark Kent and Lois Lane are magic together, and I for one am not going to look back over my shoulder at the Clana debacle and miss what's right in front of me, and that's the magic of Clois!

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Exactly. There was no doubt in my mind that Clark was going to move on after the Clana arc. Like you said, it happened at the start of season 8 but is Clark moving on because it is something that he wants to do or is he moving on because it is something that he is forced to do? I just don't like the fact that as soon as Lois came back into his life in "Infamous", he's only now starting to consider a relationship with her since Lana is out of the way. I appreciate the fact that TPTB aren't having Clark rush into a relationship with Lois, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that Lois isn't in every episode as well, but they're not addressing any of my concerns at this point.

Matt, you're going to miss out on the greatness that's right in front of you if you keep looking back at the Lana arc. The best is yet to come!!!;)

alma

03-27-2009, 12:11 PM

I think he's beginning to move on. :D

Alania

03-27-2009, 01:23 PM

Cold turkey does work for some people in real life and in fiction. A human like Chloe can and looks to be progressing naturally through this past relationship but Clark Kent is now more than ever seeing that his personal life takes a back seat to the very things he wants and needs to do: Save lives and work at the planet.

I agree with that, and what u described is Clark accepting his destiny, which i totally agree, it should be this way, but when i said he's being forced, i meant Clark when it comes to love. On the other hand, that's the reason why Lois and Clark's lovelife works, because he knows both Lois and the world comes in equal, not one over the other, or taking a backseat, u know? That's what his sentence in Bulletproof was about when he said: "Maybe it doesn't have to be all or nothing". He finds this balance with Lois.

i partially agree with you Alania, i would have liked to see clark move on naturally not because he was forced but i think the show makes up on this by not having Lois fall flat on her face for Clark either.

i think in trying to move on from the debacle of his relationship with lana he will realize that what happened with her was for a reason and had good repercussions instead of bad ones

also Lois isn't going to make it easier for him either we saw that with this episode

I agree, Josh, but still, they could have handled it better, not Hanna Montana's breakup between Clark and Lana. They could have had sex, smooch, everything in the love combo, but the part where they breakup should have been mutual. Remember Oliver and Lois?! That was a much better breakup. I loved everything about yesterday, but Clana could have finished in a more mature way, then Clark having Lois back, her keeping the friendship with him but wanting to forget they almost crossed that line, and then Clark slowly realizing his feelings for her and trying to win her back, u know? Cause that's one of the things that drives Clark madly in love her; she gives him all the space he needs, she never demands more and she can be angry at him and fun both at the same time. So, we would have the chase, a proper breakup from Clana, Clark emotionally recovered from the angst and we wouldn't been having threads here about whether Clark is moving on or not. But, nothing can be as perfect as Clois, right? And just having my all time hot shot reporter Lois Lane made my week!!!

What's more natural than Clark Kent and Lois Lane, Alania?:confused: I never bought the whole Clark obssessed with Lana story quite frankly. If anything, that was forced!

Michele, u know me, hard-time cloiser to be convinced and i have been avoiding posting, honestly, because yesterday's episode did show a renewed light on Clois but i seem to be the only still reluctant about it, cause perfect clois yesterday didn't make me forget clana! When i said being forced to move on, i meant only Clark, not Lois and Clark; he's being forced to move on because he didn't do it properly when Lana was around, so he's doing the same thing as the first half of season 8, just brushing under the rug his "interruption" with Lana. Clark seems to be feeling for Lois everything over again that he was feeling in the first half of season 8, after having felt the love for Lana. It feels like whenever he sees one or another girl, the feelings come rushing right back up, u know? I don't see him in denial at all, what i see is that his feelings for Lois sneaks up on him big time and he doesn't even realize that, so, when he least expects, he's looking lovely at her or thinking about her or being jealous or saying lines like: "there was this moment when i told Lois the truth about me, i thought i could have it all", u know? But since it's all to new for him, Lois is a whole new world compared to Lana, it tends to be sort of hidden. I just hope this time his realization sticks and won't be volatile anymore. And i'm happy their friendship is back to normal and Lois is back to her oldself!!!!!! That's why i'm waiting for Stiletto, cause yesterday, i saw Clark still struggling to move on, that's why he's keeping distance from Lois and doesn't wanna face her. But, something tells me Stiletto is the episode for feelings to stick, Micky! ;):cool:, even if Lois is in a silly catwoman outfit:p.

kelly1142

03-27-2009, 06:58 PM

Mickey_Bickey

03-27-2009, 07:02 PM

I agree with that, and what u described is Clark accepting his destiny, which i totally agree, it should be this way, but when i said he's being forced, i meant Clark when it comes to love. On the other hand, that's the reason why Lois and Clark's lovelife works, because he knows both Lois and the world comes in equal, not one over the other, or taking a backseat, u know? That's what his sentence in Bulletproof was about when he said: "Maybe it doesn't have to be all or nothing". He finds this balance with Lois.

I agree, Josh, but still, they could have handled it better, not Hanna Montana's breakup between Clark and Lana. They could have had sex, smooch, everything in the love combo, but the part where they breakup should have been mutual. Remember Oliver and Lois?! That was a much better breakup. I loved everything about yesterday, but Clana could have finished in a more mature way, then Clark having Lois back, her keeping the friendship with him but wanting to forget they almost crossed that line, and then Clark slowly realizing his feelings for her and trying to win her back, u know? Cause that's one of the things that drives Clark madly in love her; she gives him all the space he needs, she never demands more and she can be angry at him and fun both at the same time. So, we would have the chase, a proper breakup from Clana, Clark emotionally recovered from the angst and we wouldn't been having threads here about whether Clark is moving on or not. But, nothing can be as perfect as Clois, right? And just having my all time hot shot reporter Lois Lane made my week!!!

Michele, u know me, hard-time cloiser to be convinced and i have been avoiding posting, honestly, because yesterday's episode did show a renewed light on Clois but i seem to be the only still reluctant about it, cause perfect clois yesterday didn't make me forget clana! When i said being forced to move on, i meant only Clark, not Lois and Clark; he's being forced to move on because he didn't do it properly when Lana was around, so he's doing the same thing as the first half of season 8, just brushing under the rug his "interruption" with Lana. Clark seems to be feeling for Lois everything over again that he was feeling in the first half of season 8, after having felt the love for Lana. It feels like whenever he sees one or another girl, the feelings come rushing right back up, u know? I don't see him in denial at all, what i see is that his feelings for Lois sneaks up on him big time and he doesn't even realize that, so, when he least expects, he's looking lovely at her or thinking about her or being jealous or saying lines like: "there was this moment when i told Lois the truth about me, i thought i could have it all", u know? But since it's all to new for him, Lois is a whole new world compared to Lana, it tends to be sort of hidden. I just hope this time his realization sticks and won't be volatile anymore. And i'm happy their friendship is back to normal and Lois is back to her oldself!!!!!! That's why i'm waiting for Stiletto, cause yesterday, i saw Clark still struggling to move on, that's why he's keeping distance from Lois and doesn't wanna face her. But, something tells me Stiletto is the episode for feelings to stick, Micky! ;):cool:, even if Lois is in a silly catwoman outfit:p.

Alania, this episode set up Stiletto and the scene in the phone booth perfectly!!! I can't wait!!! Clark did realize that he does have strong feelings for Lois, and what I really loved was two things from last night's episode (well more than two, but I'll point out the two that are pertinent to this post), and that was the statement of "Cheers to that", and the way he said it, and the look at the end when Lois was walking away from him at the DP! That look was not a look of uncertainty but a look of conviction! He knows he wants Lois now, and he's NOT going to add that rule of keeping the games on the field to that list. Also the way he said "that" with Chloe was so convincing without doubt that he is moving on from Lana and onto Lois!! There you have it, my friend!!;):D It's all good!!

03-27-2009, 07:33 PM

i definitely think he is moving on! Just the way he acts shows it

Alania

03-27-2009, 07:58 PM

I think that Clark has moved on from Lana, but not the effects of Lana so to speak.

In other words, I think that he's more reticent with Lois not because he's still in love with Lana, but because, as Chloe said, he got burned.

I think they are two separate issues. It's not Lana so much as the scars he still bears from that relationship.

If that makes any sense.

It does make sense, Kelly, thanks! :) I'm sure he doesn't love Lana anymore and neither Lois, he's in between and now his feelings for Lois will probably stick, grow stronger and lose that fragility it had from Bride, which enabled Lana to break it. But this show kinda disrespected us, when they stopped the first half of season 8 like that to start a completely different one. Now the ratings are going up again, cause that show we were all enjoying is back and we have Clark Kent from those days. I'll try to move on and start from point zero, like Lois did with Clark., but enjoy Clois this season, probably only this blowmind moment in season finale will convince me.

Alania, this episode set up Stiletto and the scene in the phone booth perfectly!!! I can't wait!!! Clark did realize that he does have strong feelings for Lois, and what I really loved was two things from last night's episode (well more than two, but I'll point out the two that are pertinent to this post), and that was the statement of "Cheers to that", and the way he said it, and the look at the end when Lois was walking away from him at the DP! That look was not a look of uncertainty but a look of conviction! He knows he wants Lois now, and he's NOT going to add that rule of keeping the games on the field to that list. Also the way he said "that" with Chloe was so convincing without doubt that he is moving on from Lana and onto Lois!! There you have it, my friend!!;):D It's all good!!

Thanks, Michele!! I have to agree, the look on his face was nothing like the look in Infamous. it had more clarity, something like: "Good old Lois is back, thank God she's ok from the mess i've made." I felt like watching Odyssey ending again and that gave me back inner peace:D.

melissan02

03-27-2009, 08:06 PM

it happened at the start of season 8 but is Clark moving on because it is something that he wants to do or is he moving on because it is something that he is forced to do? I just don't like the fact that as soon as Lois came back into his life in "Infamous", he's only now starting to consider a relationship with her since Lana is out of the way. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You pretty much summed up my frustration w/ this whole thing re: Clois!

I appreciate the fact that TPTB aren't having Clark rush into a relationship with Lois, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that Lois isn't in every episode as well, but they're not addressing any of my concerns at this point.
Again, I emphatically agree with you matt!:)

amberdawn

03-27-2009, 10:15 PM

Little by little, I guess....With Clark, you really can't be sure.

Pretty much.

vikingjedi

03-28-2009, 02:05 AM

Nope, it takes a long time to get over somebody you loved. Especially since the only reason he's not with Lana is because it will literally kill him. Dude shouldn't be in any relationship for awhile.

amberdawn

03-28-2009, 02:07 AM

Nope, it takes a long time to get over somebody you loved.
In reality, yes. But this is a tv show. And unfortunately, some things are rushed.

Alania

03-28-2009, 08:30 AM

Little by little, I guess....With Clark, you really can't be sure.

Nope, it takes a long time to get over somebody you loved. Especially since the only reason he's not with Lana is because it will literally kill him. Dude shouldn't be in any relationship for awhile.

In reality, yes. But this is a tv show. And unfortunately, some things are rushed.

Exactly. There was no doubt in my mind that Clark was going to move on after the Clana arc. Like you said, it happened at the start of season 8 but is Clark moving on because it is something that he wants to do or is he moving on because it is something that he is forced to do? I just don't like the fact that as soon as Lois came back into his life in "Infamous", he's only now starting to consider a relationship with her since Lana is out of the way. I appreciate the fact that TPTB aren't having Clark rush into a relationship with Lois, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that Lois isn't in every episode as well, but they're not addressing any of my concerns at this point.

All true sentences. I can't quite look forward when the past is not sealed; i know Lana left because she's toxic and Clark is not in love with her anymore, but did he let her go just like that? I mean, above his ex, she's a human being who's intoxicated by kryptonite and wandering around the world this way and it's Clark's mission to help people in any way he can. She left, Clark doesn't talk about her, he's acting as if it never happened, he's struggling with the wounds left from that unhealthy relationship and, at the same time, all he quietly sees and admires now is Lois. Poor guy will explode with this "repressing feelings" issue!! I can't ask for much logic on a fantasy show, but i can ask for continuance and they are not having it at all when it comes to Clark's lovelife and it feels like underestimating our intelligence. I hope we get some answers by season's end.
Anyway, i'm just filled with joy Lois put a break on the "trying to be more than friends", she's back to her oldself, she's ascending in her career and there will be no "us" on Lois and Clark for now, just him and her.

FYI, vinkingjedi, Clark won't be in any relationship anytime soon, Lois put them back in the friendship field. What makes u say he's in another? They are just addressing Clois, not hooking them up.

myankskent

03-28-2009, 11:35 AM

Matt, you're going to miss out on the greatness that's right in front of you if you keep looking back at the Lana arc. The best is yet to come!!!;)

Well, that's the problem. When things in the past aren't truly over and TPTB are just going to force a character to move on because there is no other choice, then the future looks pretty bleak to me. Aside from that, I just refuse to get invested in any ships on Smallville because once TPTB get their hooks into it, they will find some way to screw it up, regardless of how the series might end. If Clois was handled properly from the beginning, the beginning meaning this season, then I might be more invested in it but if anything, this season was another reminder of how TPTB fail when it comes to writing relationships. Smallville disappoints me in so many ways already. I'm not going to give TPTB the chance to destroy something else that I care about. Right now, I want to see the Clark/Doomsday stuff and then I'll decide over the summer what I choose to care about in season 9.

redeyes

03-28-2009, 01:26 PM

Yes! Lois is his cure!

marcella

03-28-2009, 02:04 PM

After this episode, I can say he has

Alania

03-28-2009, 02:10 PM

. Smallville disappoints me in so many ways already. I'm not going to give TPTB the chance to destroy something else that I care about. Right now, I want to see the Clark/Doomsday stuff and then I'll decide over the summer what I choose to care about in season 9.

That is exactly how i feel today. Season finale has to be the best of all in order for me to enjoy season 9 or i might just let go of being a smallville die-hard fan...:\

Bizarrolover

03-28-2009, 02:19 PM

Clark was already moving on in Odyssey but had a big misstep when Lana came back. Now he's back on tracks again. I think that this time is definitive.

melissan02

03-28-2009, 03:20 PM

After this episode, I can say he has

Wow...really? That quickly? What, a mere month (approx. 6 wks.) since Lana HAD to leave? Really?
Doesn't feel right to me. But, I guess that doesn't matter.

zHeN_zHeN

03-28-2009, 03:21 PM

Yes, he has. He just got distracted along the way.

melissan02

03-28-2009, 03:26 PM

Yes, he has. He just got distracted along the way.

Distracted? That's the understatement of the entire series!!!:rolleyes::lol:

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I can't quite look forward when the past is not sealed; i know Lana left because she's toxic and Clark is not in love with her anymore, but did he let her go just like that? He still loves Lana. In fact, he still loved her and wanted her even though she was kryptonite infected. Lana left...Clark wanted her to stay. Lest we forget. Oh, but wait...that's what TPTB expect us to do!!:rolleyes: DUH!

I mean, above his ex, she's a human being intoxicated by kryptonite who's wandering around the world this way and it's Clark's mission to help people in any way he can. She left, Clark doesn't talk about her, he's acting as if it never happened, he's struggling with the wounds left from that unhealthy relationship and, at the same time, all he quietly sees and admires now is Lois. Clark's acting as if the Lana debacle never happened, because we have to buy into it hook, line, and sinker, don't we?:rolleyes:

it feels like underestimating our intelligence. Yes, yes it does. But I ain't falling for that sh*t anymore!!

Anyway, i'm just filled with joy Lois put a break on the "trying to be more than friends", she's back to her oldself, she's ascending in her career and there will be no "us" on Lois and Clark for now, just him and her. Amen! This was the best aspect of the episode for me! That's my girl;)...go out and date! Make Clark squirm like a worm in hot ashes!!!!!! ;):p

Alania

03-28-2009, 03:36 PM

Distracted? That's the understatement of the entire series!!!:rolleyes::lol:

:lol: That is so true!!!

zHeN_zHeN

03-28-2009, 03:37 PM

Distracted? That's the understatement of the entire series!!!:rolleyes::lol:
He got bored while Lois was away! :lol::p

amberdawn

03-28-2009, 03:38 PM

Smallville disappoints me in so many ways already. I'm not going to give TPTB the chance to destroy something else that I care about. Right now, I want to see the Clark/Doomsday stuff and then I'll decide over the summer what I choose to care about in season 9.

Same here Matt.

Alania

03-28-2009, 04:23 PM

Clark was already moving on in Odyssey but had a big misstep when Lana came back. Now he's back on tracks again. I think that this time is definitive.

It probably is definitive because Lana Lang's role in Smallville is finished. But his "moving on" this time is exactly the same as the first half of season 8; he doesn't move on from Lana, he just brushes her under the rug. Why make the same mistake twice?! If the first time they didn't finish properly, why couldn't they have done it the second time? When u move on, u close a chapter in your life, good or bad, then u chin up and move forward. But Clark didn't close this chapter and he is now going straight into to the good one, with Lois. That's why i can't find his feelings for Lois believable at all, it's too soon. Maybe in season finale, but before, any clois moment that translates something more than friendship is just pushing this ship and awakening cloisers who were left on stand-by between 11-14 episodes.

He got bored while Lois was away! :lol::p

OMG, what a creepy way to free himself from boredom; revisiting ghosts from the past and refusing to let them go..:\ Let's hope he never gets bored again:rolleyes:

Jack-El49

03-28-2009, 04:31 PM

Anu

03-28-2009, 04:34 PM

Well, he had feelings for Lois even when Lana came back, but not as strong as now. And by that, I don't think that it is rushed through anything. He is taking it slow, the relationship is developing slowly also.

myankskent

03-28-2009, 04:36 PM

Clark was already moving on in Odyssey but had a big misstep when Lana came back. Now he's back on tracks again. I think that this time is definitive.

Well of course it's definitive. Lana's kryptonite infected and will likely never return, that's the difference. But, this just highlights the problem here. As you said, Clark was moving on in "Odyssey" and yet, as soon as Lana returned, he wanted to be with her again. Now that she can't return and be with Clark, unless she gets cured, Clark will continue to move on. BTW, "Infamous" is not the second time that Clark has moved on from Lana. He started moving on with his life at the beginning of season 7 as well, when he thought that she was dead. He was all prepared to go up north and accept his destiny. When she returned in "Fierce", they decided to get together again. In "Odyssey", he moved on by becoming a DP reporter and concentrated more on saving lives in Metropolis. In "Infamous", he buried himself in work and saving lives as well. You see, this is the same exact storyline that's played out 3 times now and what's the difference with this recent scenario? The fact that Clark physically cannot be with Lana anymore and he's got some feelings for Lois. So IMO, Clark being able to move on doesn't matter at all to me because the heart of the problem is that when Lana is around and available, she is who he wants. TPTB never fixed this.

workshyslacker

03-28-2009, 04:40 PM

All true sentences. I can't quite look forward when the past is not sealed; i know Lana left because she's toxic and Clark is not in love with her anymore, but did he let her go just like that? I mean, above his ex, she's a human being intoxicated by kryptonite who's wandering around the world this way and it's Clark's mission to help people in any way he can. She left, Clark doesn't talk about her, he's acting as if it never happened, he's struggling with the wounds left from that unhealthy relationship and, at the same time, all he quietly sees and admires now is Lois. Poor guy will explode with this "repressing feelings" issue!! I can't ask for much logic on a fantasy show, but i can ask for continuance and they are not having it at all when it comes to Clark's lovelife and it feels like underestimating our intelligence. I hope we get some answers by season's end.
Anyway, i'm just filled with joy Lois put a break on the "trying to be more than friends", she's back to her oldself, she's ascending in her career and there will be no "us" on Lois and Clark for now, just him and her.

FYI, vinkingjedi, Clark won't be in any relationship anytime soon, Lois put them back in the friendship field. What makes u say he's in another? They are just addressing Clois, not hooking them up.

He still loves Lana. In fact, he still loved her and wanted her even though she was kryptonite infected. Lana left...Clark wanted her to stay. Lest we forget. Oh, but wait...that's what TPTB expect us to do!!:rolleyes: DUH!
Clark's acting as if the Lana debacle never happened, because we have to buy into it hook, line, and sinker, don't we?:rolleyes:
Yes, yes it does. But I ain't falling for that sh*t anymore!!
Amen! This was the best aspect of the episode for me! That's my girl;)...go out and date! Make Clark squirm like a worm in hot ashes!!!!!! ;):p

Bless TW and his cotton socks because he must feel the same way about how Clark has been written in regards to his romances.

You're right, girls.. they seem to think we have the memories of goldfishes to swallow the bait and switch from Lois to Lana and then back again to Lois. And I'm proud of Lois; no matter how hurt she was, she's trying to get over someone who she thinks doesn't care about her. Though a part of me was whooping with delight when she called him out over his BS, about interrupting her date, "so you can stand me up again?". BQM, I could hug you (but I don't stalk). :D

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So IMO, Clark being able to move on doesn't matter at all to me because the heart of the problem is that when Lana is around and available, she is who he wants. TPTB never fixed this.

I get your point. I remember Lori Lemaris. DC brought her back before Lois and Clark's wedding to sort out that elephant. Clark eventually made it clear that he wanted Lois, despite some initial mixed signals. TPTB should take a leaf out of DC's handbook in clearing up their own mess.

bigblueplanet

03-28-2009, 04:48 PM

Well of course it's definitive. Lana's kryptonite infected and will likely never return, that's the difference. But, this just highlights the problem here. As you said, Clark was moving on in "Odyssey" and yet, as soon as Lana returned, he wanted to be with her again. Now that she can't return and be with Clark, unless she gets cured, Clark will continue to move on. BTW, "Infamous" is not the second time that Clark has moved on from Lana. He started moving on with his life at the beginning of season 7 as well, when he thought that she was dead. He was all prepared to go up north and accept his destiny. When she returned in "Fierce", they decided to get together again. In "Odyssey", he moved on by becoming a DP reporter and concentrated more on saving lives in Metropolis. In "Infamous", he buried himself in work and saving lives as well. You see, this is the same exact storyline that's played out 3 times now and what's the difference with this recent scenario? The fact that Clark physically cannot be with Lana anymore and he's got some feelings for Lois. So IMO, Clark being able to move on doesn't matter at all to me because the heart of the problem is that when Lana is around and available, she is who he wants. TPTB never fixed this.

I have to agree with this. Lois may not be a rebound girl, but she’ll be 2nd choice for Clark as long as TPTB will not address this ‘whatever happened to Lana Lang’ topic. JMO

Faby

03-28-2009, 04:55 PM

Completetly moved on? after the Lana arc? I don't know. Maybe the writers want us to forget that it ever happened. What I can say is that Clark has had feelings for Lois which he has been blind to admit them for so long. I believe that the first half of the season he was starting to acknowledge them and started to believe that yes there may be something more with them than just friendship. Of course, we all got played with the Lana arc and Clark took 2 steps back. I can say that we all have that ex and even when you are really liking a person and really into them and all the sudden the ex comes back and you never got closure then you are going to try to reconnect since it's familiar. I still believe that it is too soon to have them hook up and I loved how Lois closed the door on him. It will take a complete realization from Clark to Chloe, oliver or even Lois letting them know that he always had those feelings and that Lana was a mistake the second time around, but I am not sure that will happen. LOIS IS NOT 2ND CHOICE!!!!!! For crying out loud! The best thing the writers can do is actually showing Clark trying to regain place with Lois. He needs to work for her and show her that she will NEVER be a 2nd choice. Once he convinces her and us about that then they can have them hook up....lol
They should start with that in Season 9, I believe this season is just too soon
I am still having nightmares about the Lana arc......lol

Alania

03-28-2009, 05:05 PM

I think he's between moving on and realizing something special may be slipping away. Is he totally over the break up? Probably not. Are the same feelings he had for Lois before Bride ended resurfacing? Maybe so. He looked ready to admit his mistake of standing up Lois. He looked a little odd when Lois said she had a date with the guy from the airplane. He didn't deny the "puppy dog eyes" comment Chloe made.

None of these things by themselves would indicate he's completely over Lana but in their totality, they show that he's not clinging to the past either. "Cheers to that one".;)

I agree with you, he's in between, but i can't find believable him feeling all those things that soon, i dare to say it is laughable. Lois Lane is his lifetime partner, it is not the second girlfriend and the way they are handling this "realization of feelings" for Lois is disappointing. He didn't deny to Chloe because he doesn't even know where she is coming from with that comment and neither does me with his "puppy eyes." Honestly, during that scene, i was like: "get away from her!".

Bless TW and his cotton socks because he must feel the same way about how Clark has been written in regards to his romances.

You're right, girls.. they seem to think we have the memories of goldfishes to swallow the bait and switch from Lois to Lana and then back again to Lois. And I'm proud of Lois; no matter how hurt she was, she's trying to get over someone who she thinks doesn't care about her. Though a part of me was whooping with delight when she called him out over his BS, about interrupting her date, "so you can stand me up again?". BQM, I could hug you (but I don't stalk). :D

It's the press play/stop on clois and clana and we are suppose to follow that! BQM worked the miracle to restore the Lois and Clark friendship, by perfectly making usage of Lois's idiosyncrasy, and they are back to "Odyssey" point. That's what i thank him for, and for giving us good laughs! :D I'm just not ok with pushing Clois:mad:.

I get your point. I remember Lori Lemaris. DC brought her back before Lois and Clark's wedding to sort out that elephant. Clark eventually made it clear that he wanted Lois, despite some initial mixed signals. TPTB should take a leaf out of DC's handbook in clearing up their own mess.

I don't think they read comics at all, Charlotte, if they read, we wouldn't be seeing Lois and Clark's relationship portrayed this way, like over clana instead of after clana and Clark having feelings whenever he sees one of them. :\

Bizarrolover

03-28-2009, 05:10 PM

Well of course it's definitive. Lana's kryptonite infected and will likely never return, that's the difference. But, this just highlights the problem here. As you said, Clark was moving on in "Odyssey" and yet, as soon as Lana returned, he wanted to be with her again. Now that she can't return and be with Clark, unless she gets cured, Clark will continue to move on. BTW, "Infamous" is not the second time that Clark has moved on from Lana. He started moving on with his life at the beginning of season 7 as well, when he thought that she was dead. He was all prepared to go up north and accept his destiny. When she returned in "Fierce", they decided to get together again. In "Odyssey", he moved on by becoming a DP reporter and concentrated more on saving lives in Metropolis. In "Infamous", he buried himself in work and saving lives as well. You see, this is the same exact storyline that's played out 3 times now and what's the difference with this recent scenario? The fact that Clark physically cannot be with Lana anymore and he's got some feelings for Lois. So IMO, Clark being able to move on doesn't matter at all to me because the heart of the problem is that when Lana is around and available, she is who he wants. TPTB never fixed this.

Well, hopefully they'll bring the matter up in the future and actually give it a proper closure. Time usually fix things and Clark had been more time without Lana than with her, so he'll move on to a point when seeing her again will not mean running towards her like he did so many times in the past. I'm optimistic about him an the writers this time.

zHeN_zHeN

03-28-2009, 05:16 PM

OMG, what a creepy way to free himself from boredom; revisiting ghosts from the past and refusing to let them go..:\ Let's hope he never gets bored again:rolleyes:
:lol: Well, I have a good feeling that Lois won't be leaving his side anytime soon. So, Clark will have his hands full, that's for sure! Hehe.. ;):D

melissan02

03-28-2009, 06:41 PM

I think he's between moving on and realizing something special may be slipping away. Hum...this is a very good point, Jack. One that I haven't considered. It would partially explain his hesitation.

Is he totally over the break up? Probably not. Are the same feelings he had for Lois before Bride ended resurfacing? Maybe so. He looked ready to admit his mistake of standing up Lois. He looked a little odd when Lois said she had a date with the guy from the airplane. He didn't deny the "puppy dog eyes" comment Chloe made. Don't get me wrong, I did notice several things from Clark in this episode, but I guess I thought they could have been "played up" more than they were.:\ There's something there, and I think Clark knows it and feels it, he's just in a quandary. Figures!:rolleyes:

None of these things by themselves would indicate he's completely over Lana but in their totality, they show that he's not clinging to the past either. "Cheers to that one".;)I don't think he's clinging to the past necessarily, but it can't be ignored, or swept under the rug. I'm just not ready to raise my glass...yet!;)

myankskent

03-28-2009, 09:43 PM

He didn't deny to Chloe because he doesn't even know where she is coming from with that comment and neither does me with his "puppy eyes." Honestly, during that scene, i was like: "get away from her!".

Yeah, the problem is that if Chloe made a comment about how Clark blew Lois off for 4 episodes because Lana was back, Clark wouldn't be able to deny that either. TPTB basically want everyone to forget that and pretend that Clark has spent the entire season giving Lois looks without any interruption.

It's the press play/stop on clois and clana and we are suppose to follow that! BQM worked the miracle to restore the Lois and Clark friendship, by perfectly making usage of Lois's idiosyncrasy, and they are back to "Odyssey" point.

I actually think that they are beyond "Odyssey". Clark is showing clear signs that he is interested in Lois and Lois has decided to put her feelings for Clark on the side, but they are still there. I would even say that there was a hint of jealousy in Clark's eyes when Lois made the comment about how she had a date. Clark asking Lois if he should call her if anything comes up with work was a dead giveaway that he was looking for a reason to interrupt her date, IMO.

Jack-El49

03-28-2009, 09:49 PM

Well of course it's definitive. Lana's kryptonite infected and will likely never return, that's the difference. But, this just highlights the problem here. As you said, Clark was moving on in "Odyssey" and yet, as soon as Lana returned, he wanted to be with her again. Now that she can't return and be with Clark, unless she gets cured, Clark will continue to move on. BTW, "Infamous" is not the second time that Clark has moved on from Lana. He started moving on with his life at the beginning of season 7 as well, when he thought that she was dead. He was all prepared to go up north and accept his destiny. When she returned in "Fierce", they decided to get together again. In "Odyssey", he moved on by becoming a DP reporter and concentrated more on saving lives in Metropolis. In "Infamous", he buried himself in work and saving lives as well. You see, this is the same exact storyline that's played out 3 times now and what's the difference with this recent scenario? The fact that Clark physically cannot be with Lana anymore and he's got some feelings for Lois. So IMO, Clark being able to move on doesn't matter at all to me because the heart of the problem is that when Lana is around and available, she is who he wants. TPTB never fixed this.

You're right, Matt - they need to FIX it big time. Hopefully, if nothing else, that's the thing that will happen in the finale this season that makes us forget the Lana arc.

Violet-Shadow

03-28-2009, 09:59 PM

I really, really, really hope he has moved on!

Sports72Xtrm

03-28-2009, 10:15 PM

Well I'm going to say he is taking some steps forward in moving on. I don't know why Lana has such a hold over him but apparently she does and whenever she leaves, Clark is left with a void that he couldn't find anything else to fill it with other than work. Clark is starting to think that Lois might be able to fill that void but is unsure and then Lana keeps coming back so he never explores anything else. I don't know, if Lana comes back I hope that Clark has wizened up to the point where he realizes that he fell in love with someone else and doesn't need Lana. It sucks that PS3 thinks that the only way for Clark to get over Lana is to force the hand of fate but whatever...:\

amberdawn

03-28-2009, 10:25 PM

It sucks that PS3 thinks that the only way for Clark to get over Lana is to force the hand of fate but whatever...:\

Ugh, I know. Ridiculous writing. It's not that difficult to have Clark actually MAKE the decision to end things.:rolleyes:

Alania

03-29-2009, 07:55 AM

Yeah, the problem is that if Chloe made a comment about how Clark blew Lois off for 4 episodes because Lana was back, Clark wouldn't be able to deny that either. TPTB basically want everyone to forget that and pretend that Clark has spent the entire season giving Lois looks without any interruption.

Exactly. This is what i find inacceptable!!!!:mad: I don't want Clark pretending nothing happened, pretending that he didn't declare undying love for Lana Lang. This has to be deal with somehow, and not through Lois and Clark's romantic moments. They are using those to make it up to the inconclusive clana closure.

I actually think that they are beyond "Odyssey". Clark is showing clear signs that he is interested in Lois and Lois has decided to put her feelings for Clark on the side, but they are still there. I would even say that there was a hint of jealousy in Clark's eyes when Lois made the comment about how she had a date. Clark asking Lois if he should call her if anything comes up with work was a dead giveaway that he was looking for a reason to interrupt her date, IMO.

True! It is the legitim Clois bone for cloisers who suddenly awoke in Infamous!!!:rolleyes: Why was he interested in interrupting her date, i haven't a clue...TPTB want us to think he's jealous and is now having his " fighting temptations" phase: "Wait, what am i doing?! Am i making puppy eyes at Lois?! Am i jealous of her?! NO, i cannot feel this now, it is sinful, dangerous!!" :rolleyes: The Clark Kent i know never thinks that having feelings for Lois is something he needs to fight against, in fact, this is what separates this love from the love he had for Lana: whereas the first makes him stronger and he just represses for fear of not being able to make her happy, the second weakens him and suffocates him. This "fighting temptations" they got going is another mistake and probably the only way they found to switch back from clana to clois in so little time.

It sucks that PS3 thinks that the only way for Clark to get over Lana is to force the hand of fate but whatever...:\

Exactly. This is why i didn't want any kind of clois moment before seeing Clark actually closing Lana chapter in his life and not brushing under the rug, just like he did before. Lois Lane is not the second girlfriend, she's his ultimate love, they should have handled without looking like Clark pressed his lightswitch button.:\ And, for me, it will look like it in every clois moment they throw at us.

workshyslacker

03-29-2009, 08:18 AM

Yeah, the problem is that if Chloe made a comment about how Clark blew Lois off for 4 episodes because Lana was back, Clark wouldn't be able to deny that either; TPTB basically want everyone to forget that and pretend that Clark has spent the entire season giving Lois looks without any interruption.

I actually think that they are beyond "Odyssey". Clark is showing clear signs that he is interested in Lois and Lois has decided to put her feelings for Clark on the side, but they are still there. I would even say that there was a hint of jealousy in Clark's eyes when Lois made the comment about how she had a date. Clark asking Lois if he should call her if anything comes up with work was a dead giveaway that he was looking for a reason to interrupt her date, IMO.

You're absolutely right. I found it baffling that Clark doesn't question whether he was justified in wanting to interrupt her date, since he had his chance and lost it. I agree with Melissa; TPTB are trying to appease Clois/Lois fans but they could have played his feelings up more.

True! It is the legitim Clois bone for cloisers who suddenly awoke in Infamous!!!:rolleyes: Why was he interested in interrupting her date, i haven't a clue...TPTB want us to think he's jealous and he's having his " fighting temptations" phase: "Wait, what am i doing?! Am i making puppy eyes at Lois?! Am i jealous of her?! NO, i cannot feel this now, it is sinful, dangerous!!" :rolleyes: Give me a break!! The Clark Kent i know from comics never thinks that having feelings for Lois is wrong, in fact, this is what separates this love from the love he had for Lana: whereas the first makes him stronger and he just represses for fear of not being able to make her happy, the second weakens him and suffocates him.

And that's what's wrong with this. No girl wants to know that a man is struggling with his feelings when it comes to acknowledging that he cares for her.

Off topic; Reminds me when Elizabeth Bennett took such offence at Mr Darcy's declaration of love. :D

Darcy: I have fought against my better judgment, my family's expectations, the inferiority of your birth by rank and circumstance...
Elizabeth Bennett: And I might as well enquire why, with so evident a design of insulting me, you chose to tell me that you liked me against your better judgment
:lol:

Alania

03-29-2009, 09:05 AM

And that's what's wrong with this. No girl wants to know that a man is struggling with his feelings when it comes to acknowledging that he cares for her.

Off topic; Reminds me when Elizabeth Bennett took such offence at Mr Darcy's declaration of love. :D

:lol:

Darcy's declaration of love is so unfair and yet, so romantic!!! Of course she would take it as an offense, they guy is not enjoying his strong feelings and he has to accept them despite that!!:lol: Now that's what i call denial, and that's not what i find right to portray Clark's feelings for Lois, cause that's not the nature of them. Honestly, i don't think he's in denial or repressing; i see him not knowing at all where are those feelings coming from, so, he doesn't act upon them, he doesn't answer Chloe when she mentions the "non-stop puppy eyes", he finds weird when she points out: " you've never looked at me that way before". So far, not believable, in my POV.

Fly by guy

03-29-2009, 09:52 AM

The Lana arc was so badly placed in the middle of the season, it makes it impossible to believe that Clark could go from Lois in Bride, back to Lana, then immediately go back to Lois. That would not make him the Man of Steel, but The Heart of Stone. If they could not have gotten KK to film for the start of the season they should have filmed for the last five episodes so the season wouldn't have been emasculated, appropriately, in the middle of the season.

jlbtjb316

03-30-2009, 12:25 PM

I think Clark realizes that he has to move on and that he is in the process of doing so. As for what Clark's feelings are for Lois, I think this is a difficult time for Clark, and I am not sure that he knows what he is feeling at this point. In the past Clark has pursued relationships with Chloe, Kyla and Alicia when he could not be with Lana. It is understandable that he longs for that type of love and companionship again now that he cannot be with Lana. We know that TPTB plan to follow the Superman mythos and have him end up with Lois, but as of now I think he cares for her and thinks that maybe there could be more between them but is unsure what to do given the complexities of his life. After Infamous, he will naturally feel once again that it is too dangerous to share his secret with anyone. He knows that if he tries to have a relationship with Lois without telling her his secret, he will have to constantly lie to her and that would be both hurtful and unfair to her and would damage the foundation of trust necessary to have a healthy relationship. He needs time to figure out if he can ever have a normal human love relationship and how to share his secret while protecting his identity and the lives of those he cares about (dual identity). He also needs to think about the Fortress and completing his training and how that might impact a romantic relationship. I think it is wise for him to try to work through some of these issues before entering into another romantic relationship.

I agree with some of the other posts that this season has not flowed well, but I don’t feel the Lana arc was the problem. I am glad that Kristin agreed to come back for her 5 episode arc as I felt that the DVD breakup with Clark last season was a very poor way to end one of the major relationships on the show. To me, TPTB made a mistake early this season by all of sudden having Lois have feelings for Clark and then having the almost-kiss in Bride when they knew that KK was coming back for her five episode arc. I think it was simply too early to try to develop some sort of Clois relationship with the Clana relationship still unresolved. It's not like they didn't know that KK was coming back and had to throw something together at the last minute.

During the Lana arc, I thought the writers tried to remain true to what has always been shown on this show – that Clark loves Lana and Lana loves Clark. They did not disrespect the Clana relationship, and they have not tainted (in my view) the love that Clark will have for Lois in the future. I like the fact that the writers did not pit Lana and Lois against each other and put down one relationship to make the other look superior. The fact that Clark and Lana still loved each other at the end made their parting bittersweet but does not diminish the future relationship that Clark will have with Lois. Sometimes outside factors cause relationships to end in this way. In time, Clark will learn to love again, and his relationship with Lois will also be true and beautiful.

Alicia Chipy

03-30-2009, 02:59 PM

ClLaLeChFAN01

03-30-2009, 05:03 PM

Clark is taking baby steps...and im so glad. I hope he doesnt get into another serious relationship like Lana. I dont think I could take it

herolee10

03-30-2009, 05:23 PM

I believe that Hex has proved that it's really the experience had with Lana recently that he's had a hard time moving on from..but as for Lana herself, I believe he has moved on from.

if the show has taught us one thing, its that Clark is not a quitter, nor is he a firm believer that destiny has a full say in his life.

If Clark truly, wanted to be with Lana, he'd be asking Oliver to develop a cure or something, going around the globe to find that cure, hell he would have used the Legion time ring when he still had it, or even Zatanna with the wish...but from the looks of things, Lana didn't even appear in his mind when it came down towards the times of being able to possibly undo those events.

If anything, I believe that Clark is just afraid of getting hurt again and losing another person that he loves dearly.

amberdawn

03-30-2009, 07:01 PM

If anything, I believe that Clark is just afraid of getting hurt again and losing another person that he loves dearly.

Probably. As much as I disliked Clark during the whole Lana arc, and basically during his entire relationship with Lana ( :lol: ), he was hurt pretty bad repeatedly. :\ I know what it's like to be hurt like that.

herolee10

03-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Probably. As much as I disliked Clark during the whole Lana arc, and basically during his entire relationships with Lana ( :lol: ), he was hurt pretty bad repeatedly. :\ I know what it's like to be hurt like that.

that sucks:( I'm sorry to hear that.

If it'll make you feel better..I'll track down the guy responsible and give him a good beating for ever doing that to you:D:cool:

as for Clark..yeah, that guy has been through a rough ordeal because of Lana.

I mean I remember Lana telling him in "The vessel" on how she wondered on "how she could have ever loved him"

And with all the times she demanded the truth from him yet refused to tell the truth herself...and how she would only go to him at times whenever she needed him but if she didn't, she would keep a fair distance. And how she could willingly marry someone like Lex even though she knew how much Clark didn't like him and how dangerous he was and how she couldn't tell the difference between him and Bizzaro..and how she told him in "Promise" that she would leave with him but ended up marrying Lex saying that she had a change of heart...

damn, no wonder this guy is so scared in the inside. Nothing like a good Lane healing to get him out of this though:D

amberdawn

03-30-2009, 07:48 PM

If it'll make you feel better..I'll track down the guy responsible and give him a good beating for ever doing that to you:D:cool:

:lol: Aww, Thomas, you are sweet. Glad to know if I ever need someone to beat a guy up for me you are there. :p

Lucky for Clark, Lois doesn't BS around in relationships. She's either in it all the way or not at all.

herolee10

03-30-2009, 07:53 PM

:lol: Aww, Thomas, you are sweet. Glad to know if I ever need someone to beat a guy up for me you are there. :p

Lucky for Clark, Lois doesn't BS around in relationships. She's either in it all the way or not at all.

just think of me the guy to call if any guy pisses you off and want them to get a good licking...though I might be at a dilema if the guy that pisses you accidentally might be me..because I don't know how to beat myself up yet...maybe I should watch Requiem and power to do that..lol

Clark is lucky that Lois isn't like that. I mean Chloe and Lana have been shown to kiss other people and really flirt with them even though they were in very committed relationships, especially Lana.

But with Lois, once she likes a guy, she won't cheat on them. If she feels things aren't going anywhere nice with the guy she's with, and somewhat has feelings for another guy, she would break up with the other guy first...but not because of the guy she's currently feeling for. And she would wait for awhile to make any move probably on the other guy.

And if she can't decide on who she wants to be with, then she won't be with any one of them.

Lois is a very fair person and doesn't bs with people's feelings.

amberdawn

03-30-2009, 08:07 PM

You said it all, Thomas. Lois is truly special.

Jack-El49

03-31-2009, 09:27 PM

:lol: Aww, Thomas, you are sweet. Glad to know if I ever need someone to beat a guy up for me you are there. :p

Lucky for Clark, Lois doesn't BS around in relationships. She's either in it all the way or not at all.

That's why I think Lois isn't dating a guy from the airplane. She's in it all the way until there's nothing left - either he is or isn't in it with her. I think she's not sure either and is ratcheting up the pressure on him. I think if Lois is truly after Clark, then she's going to do more than just ask him out for a coffee date. I think she's just changing her approach to dealing with him, building up the anxiety and desire in him to make him bust loose, instead of her having to do it.

But with Lois, once she likes a guy, she won't cheat on them. If she feels things aren't going anywhere nice with the guy she's with, and somewhat has feelings for another guy, she would break up with the other guy first...but not because of the guy she's currently feeling for. And she would wait for awhile to make any move probably on the other guy.

And if she can't decide on who she wants to be with, then she won't be with any one of them.

Lois is a very fair person and doesn't bs with people's feelings.

Exactly. She may pressure him indirectly but I don't think her action is what it appears to be on the surface. She's not one to play with someone's heart that way.

amberdawn

03-31-2009, 10:09 PM

I didn't mean she never goes on dates, just so you know.

Tatiana

03-31-2009, 10:30 PM

Big O

03-31-2009, 11:46 PM

But that's how life works sometimes. You don't always have a choice in what you leave behind. And sometimes even if leaving something behind seems like something terrible, like a punishment or a curse later on you can see that it was actually a blessing.

I remember having to leave college my second semester of my third year to tend to my sick father. At that point I was in a pre-medical program and had already been accepted into a medical school (granted my GPA remained high and I followed a few other requirements). When my father became sick I had to not only drop out of college but I had to quit the program and pretty much say goodbye to something I had worked on so hard for not just college but throughout high school too. I was upset and held resentment for a long time. I stayed out of school for two years until my father sadly passed away. Then I returned to college and I realized that I was not interested in the medical field anymore. While tending for my father I began tutoring children at a small daycare near my neighborhood to make a few extra dollars and the teaching bug bit me. I became an education major when I returned to college and then became a science teacher. Five years later, I'm a lead teacher at a great high school and I've never been happier. I'm also married (my wife is the director of the special education services at my school district) and I have two one year old twin boys. My point is that things sometimes change for a reason. I think Clark's future will be a lot brighter than he may imagine right now. :)

Great post....if there is one constant in Life....its the fact that its always changing....and events happens to us sometimes..that we have no say or control over...we just try our best..to accept them... and move on with our lifes...and thats what Clark is doing..in regards to Lana.....

While I understand how some fans have a hard time accepting the fact that CK has moved on from Lana..... I dont have any trouble...seeing CK developing feelings for Lois...they have been teasing & flirting with one another for years...and CK has come to Lois' rescue....physically & emotionally...more than once.....so..its not surprising...when Lois said in Bride to Oliver..that her feelings for CK..just ...."snuck up on her".....

Same goes for CK....hes just slowly...wakening up to the fact..that the woman of his dreams & future wife....was right there in front of his eyes...all along...he just didnt see her....until now.

Jack-El49

04-01-2009, 06:24 AM

Great post....if there is one constant in Life....its the fact that its always changing....and events happens to us sometimes..that we have no say or control over...we just try our best..to accept them... and move on with our lifes...and thats what Clark is doing..in regards to Lana.....

While I understand how some fans have a hard time accepting the fact that CK has moved on from Lana..... I dont have any trouble...seeing CK developing feelings for Lois...they have been teasing & flirting with one another for years...and CK has come to Lois' rescue....physically & emotionally...more than once.....so..its not surprising...when Lois said in Bride to Oliver..that her feelings for CK..just ...."snuck up on her".....

Same goes for CK....hes just slowly...wakening up to the fact..that the woman of his dreams & future wife....was right there in front of his eyes...all along...he just didnt see her....until now.

You make a very, very valid argument here. Just because circumstances pulled Clark and Lana apart, it doesn't mean that Clark cannot move on. He's determined to put it behind him and maybe learn from his mistakes. I think he's getting very interested in Lois for mature reasons that never entered into his feelings for Lana.

The one thing that irritates me with the ongoing presentation of Lois is that she poured her guts out to Clark about Oliver Queen when she was in love with him and that's when the comment about her being like a pitbull on a pantleg was said. So she'll spill her guts to Clark about her feelings for Ollie, spill her guts to Ollie about how she feels about Clark (Bride), but won't say how she feels to Clark's face. Maybe it's the safety of not being rejected by a friend. It's just peculiar to me.

workshyslacker

04-01-2009, 06:44 AM

Big O

04-01-2009, 09:29 PM

Exactly. There was no doubt in my mind that Clark was going to move on after the Clana arc. Like you said, it happened at the start of season 8 but is Clark moving on because it is something that he wants to do or is he moving on because it is something that he is forced to do? I just don't like the fact that as soon as Lois came back into his life in "Infamous", he's only now starting to consider a relationship with her since Lana is out of the way. I appreciate the fact that TPTB aren't having Clark rush into a relationship with Lois, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with the fact that Lois isn't in every episode as well, but they're not addressing any of my concerns at this point.

I just wish...the writers had come up with....a much better & realistic..NAY....adult reason...for why CK & Lana...had to break things off.....they chose...an unoriginal...cheesy..and silly reason...that CK & Lana...could no longer be together...by having Lana....become a virtual walking/talking piece of Kryptonite.... ..

They essentially...took the descisions & reasons they might legitimately have...for no longer being a couple......away from CK & Lana...and in effect...they weakened both characters.....by choosing this safe & easy route..

How much more powerful an episode it could have been...if they would have had Clark...decide to man up...and end things with Lana....for once??

Lana was always the one it seemed...who walked away & out of Ck's life....it would have...shown real growth...on CK's part...if he gave Lana...some real reasons...he no longer saw them...growing old together.

Clark...has pretty well...been the same...personality wise...since the pilot...a really nice guy...who anybody would want & enjoy having as a friend.....but Lana...had changed 360 %...from the sweet ..& popular cheerleader ..we as fans saw..when we first met her..so...if Clark wanted a few reasons...why he didnt see himself & Lana...staying together...he had..lots to choose from.....

Alas...the writers...chickened out....and that was the wrong thing to do...cos they NEEDED...to have Clark & Lana's breakup...be much better & more realistic... to show us..CK's growth as a man & a person.....but more importantly...for the fans of SV....to realize & believe...100% and without any doubts what so ever....that CK's feelings & growing fondness & attachment to Lois....his future wife & love of his life.....look real & legitimate.....in the eyes & minds... of all of the shows fans.....and avoid..what has unfortunately happened...which is make poor Lois ...look like...CK's.. forced second choice..to a lot of fans....thats not Ck's fault...Lana's ...thats the writers & producers fault....they didnt do right...by either CK or Lana...and give the two characters...and thier romance & relantioship..which formed..a lot of the backbone...of the show....a fitting ending..

They should & easliy..could have done much better..if they had only kept their eye....on the big picture....which is the simple fact..that Superman...AKA...Clark Kent & Lois Lane...are and will forever.. be linked together....not only though marriage...but through their long history...and by giving us....that dissapointing ending to CK & Lana's relantionship...they have cheapened.......CK 's feelings for & Lois.....in some fans eyes...

I just choose....to ignore the last few episodes with Lana..lol..I think...for coming up with such poor shows...ignoring them...is a fitting "tribute"...or make that....payback.....against the writers & PS3..who dreamed them up...

Crouching Lurker

04-01-2009, 10:46 PM

The one thing that irritates me with the ongoing presentation of Lois is that she poured her guts out to Clark about Oliver Queen when she was in love with him and that's when the comment about her being like a pitbull on a pantleg was said. So she'll spill her guts to Clark about her feelings for Ollie, spill her guts to Ollie about how she feels about Clark (Bride), but won't say how she feels to Clark's face. Maybe it's the safety of not being rejected by a friend. It's just peculiar to me.

Please tell me you're kidding. :eek: :lol: Listen, I can understand if you're frustrated that Clark is getting a lot of flack. And he his, admittedly, but c'mon, she won't say how she feels to Clark's face. :lol:

In Infamous she poured her out onto the barn floor telling him how she feels. Of course she remembers none of this, but in the reset she invites him to coffee and he doesn't.go.over. What's the woman supposed to do? How is she going to tell him how she feels if he won't walk his butt across the street for a cup of coffee? He thinks he's got to protect his secret from her. Fine, so be it. The ball is in his court, when he's ready he'll act on his feelings or not. But it can't be Lois continuing to follow him around trying to convince him to express himself or to love her. Been there done that with Lana.

Somebody really called it. Clark dragged himself across the barn to try and get one last kiss with something that was literally poisoning him to death but he couldn't walk across the street and acknowledge the almost kiss? At least go over and say all these emotions are confusing and can we take a step back? Or simply say I'm not ready right now for a relationship. But no, nothing.

In Hex it looks like he's only beginning to entertain the idea that he might be attracted to Lois, he seemed truly shocked when Chloe mentioned how he looks at Lois all the time. So he still has things to figure out, I firmly believe that Lois is still very much is love and will continue to be despite her walls; but I just get the impression that you think she should be holed up at home, strapped down in a chair in a chastity belt with a ball cap that reads, 'Clark Woman', until he calls. :\ We're talking about a lousy date/s with a someone who asked her out, lol.

Jack-El49

04-02-2009, 07:39 AM

Please tell me you're kidding. :eek: :lol: Listen, I can understand if you're frustrated that Clark is getting a lot of flack. And he his, admittedly, but c'mon, she won't say how she feels to Clark's face. :lol:.

I'm not kidding at all, Charlotte and I'm not frustrated with Clark getting flack. If you take the time to read more than this one post, you'll see that since Infamous, I've been the one sending most of the flack in his direction.

In Infamous she poured her out onto the barn floor telling him how she feels. Of course she remembers none of this, but in the reset she invites him to coffee and he doesn't.go.over. What's the woman supposed to do? How is she going to tell him how she feels if he won't walk his butt across the street for a cup of coffee? He thinks he's got to protect his secret from her. Fine, so be it. The ball is in his court, when he's ready he'll act on his feelings or not. But it can't be Lois continuing to follow him around trying to convince him to express himself or to love her. Been there done that with Lana.

Read my post-Infamous posts. When others were hailing him as being honorable and making a sacrifice by not walking across the street, I was calling him a gutless liar and a piss-poor example of a fledgling superhero who couldn't deal with facing Lois and just telling her he needed time to sort out his feelings or whatever his friggin' problem is. So don't presume that I am taking Clark's side in this debate because I absolutely do not.

However, I don't categorically believe Lois to be solely the innocent victim of Clark's insecurity. She has plenty of her own. I don't see her following him all around. I don't see her trying to convince him of anything - particularly convince him to say how he feels about her - other than asking him to meet her for coffee once.

Does Lois love him? Did she say it to anyone? She told Ollie she thought for just a moment he needed her but has she said to anyone she needs him? Listen, I'm not blaming Lois for much because i think Clark looks like an idiot in all of this but all I read is how Lois should just move on, how Lois should just go do her own thing, just ignore Clark and go out and have a good time because he's this or he's that...as though she's been so up front about being in love with him and he's just turned his back on her. She hasn't exactly been in your face obvious. So to imply that she's given it her best shot and she should move on...well, I strongly disagree if we're talking about Lois Lane and not Paris Hilton. Lois will assume the identity of a super-heroine and the inherent risks simply to draw out the RBB but shouldn't make any more effort with Clark IF she loves him?

Somebody really called it. Clark dragged himself across the barn to try and get one last kiss with something that was literally poisoning him to death but he couldn't walk across the street and acknowledge the almost kiss? At least go over and say all these emotions are confusing and can we take a step back? Or simply say I'm not ready right now for a relationship. But no, nothing.

I couldn't agree more Charlotte and as I said, if you'd read what i wrote after Infamous and most every post since then, I've said that showing a Clark who is constantly afraid of every friggin' thing is pathetic and rather than using his actions control events, he's letting events control his actions and that is NOT a hero in anyone's book - particularly the worlds greatest superhero.

In Hex it looks like he's only beginning to entertain the idea that he might be attracted to Lois, he seemed truly shocked when Chloe mentioned how he looks at Lois all the time. So he still has things to figure out, I firmly believe that Lois is still very much is love and will continue to be despite her walls; but I just get the impression that you think she should be holed up at home, strapped down in a chair in a chastity belt with a ball cap that reads, 'Clark Woman', until he calls. :\ We're talking about a lousy date/s with a someone who asked her out, lol.

I guess that's one way of putting it. Maybe the other way of putting it is how serious are you of getting your guy if you really won't say anything to him and when he doesn't catch on to all your inferences, you give up?

How is Clark supposed to realize that Lois has feelings for him if she's out dating other guys? Wasn't it Lois who once mentioned burying your heartache in your work? Would Clark expect she is heartbroken if she's out dating random guys from an airplane trip?

The true frustration, to be told Charlotte, is that this push-pull type writing serves only one purpose - to delay, stall and string along the audience. We saw it for 7 years between Clark and Lana and to me, it appears we're going to see it until time runs out between Clark and Lois and that IS NOT the way Clois should be written. Clois should be shown to be different than Clark and Lois' other relationships.

THAT is the real frustration because the writers never even had to go down this road if they did not intend showing a romantic relationship between Lois and Clark. They could have kept it platonic. But instead, they get the audience (those who like the idea) amped up for romance and they constantly deny the viewers any payoff because they think in doing so they will soon thereafter lose the audience and they will run out of interesting things to write about. So instead, they manipulate interest based on inferences, based on teasers, and based on spoilers that never quite pan out and we end up saying, "well, next week it's bound to happen because it says so in the spoilers".

Kind of like that flying ability.

Crouching Lurker

04-03-2009, 04:10 PM

I'm not kidding at all, Charlotte and I'm not frustrated with Clark getting flack. If you take the time to read more than this one post, you'll see that since Infamous, I've been the one sending most of the flack in his direction.

Read my post-Infamous posts. When others were hailing him as being honorable and making a sacrifice by not walking across the street, I was calling him a gutless liar and a piss-poor example of a fledgling superhero who couldn't deal with facing Lois and just telling her he needed time to sort out his feelings or whatever his friggin' problem is. So don't presume that I am taking Clark's side in this debate because I absolutely do not.

I have been reading your posts, Jack. I think the comments in particular that made me do a double take; and I didn’t respond to them because I really can’t take the time when I’m working, is the idea that Lois shouldn’t be allow to go on a date or those who believe in this iconic love affair of Clois shouldn’t be rooting for Lois to date other people.

Lois' date with the guy she met on her flight (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123647)

If you believe this to be then iconic love affair, then you should not be rooting for Lois to date other guys; for her to seek a consolation prize when her soul mate is right before her eyes and she SHOULD feel it.

There were other things too, but that’s my basic gripe. Couple that with the Lois won’t tell Clark how she feels to his face, thing, and it’s left me scratching my head. This woman is young, single, attractive and yes unattached. I have no problems with her going out for a night of dinner and dancing, with a man who’s actually motivated enough to ask her. I’d rather her be doing that than playing head games with Clark. If she says she had a date, I believe her. Now if by some happy accident it makes Clark jealous, nobody has a muzzle on him, there’s something he can do about it. But I’ve got no reason to doubt that some one asked her out on a date and that she would accept. She’s a beautiful, smart woman; not the hunchback of Notre Dame.

However, I don't categorically believe Lois to be solely the innocent victim of Clark's insecurity. She has plenty of her own. I don't see her following him all around. I don't see her trying to convince him of anything - particularly convince him to say how he feels about her –other than asking him to meet her for coffee once.

I don’t believe Lois is a victim either, Jack, for me it’s not about victims or blaming. As far as her insecurities, we all talk about that all the time, she’s got plenty, that’s no surprise. Which is why inviting him for coffee is pretty darn huge, IMO, especially since the AoS is still hanging out there. I’m sure we’re all pretty tired of hearing about it; but when we’re discussing the topic of love, moving on, commitment and pursuit, I think the AoS has to be a part of the conversation. How does the AoS factor into what has happened up to this point; and how that might inform her mindset? A wave of the ‘Cheers to that’ wand isn’t going to wipe that away, because how much time has gone by since P/R? That’s why I’m looking so intently at this from Lois’ POV. What does she think about the events of Bride and the weeks following when she was gone, but Lana was in town? At the end of the day, the show is about Clark and his journey, which includes his track record until now.

And what is his track record? Well, during the entire time Smallville has been on the air, he’s been all about Lana. And that certainly holds true since Lois showed up. Lois knows he’s been all about Lana and has always acknowledged this; she even went so far as to say in Siren that she and Ollie weren’t like him and Lana, “we’re not the perfect couple; we’re not destined for each other”. Even though they were a “secret and lies” disaster, Lois doesn’t know that. From the outside looking in, Lois always saw them as people destined to be together and would, in her own words, graduate high school, get married and have a couple of little Clarks running around. She even tried to make him snap out of his Lana funk and encourage him to try another “flavor” in Instinct. It has been a constant presence throughout the entire time they’ve known each other.

She also knows Chloe’s history with Clark and the feelings she had for him. And in all the years of pining, hoping, trying to convince, hanging around in his orbit as his BFF, waiting patiently, has gotten her…nothing, zero. Not in the way of romantic love, it is unrequited love. It’s produced a very nice platonic friendship, but that’s it. So why would Lois think that the outcome would be any different for her? What frame of reference would she have to go by? Remember, Chloe had been head over heels in love with him too, but he’s was still all about Lana. This is Pre-AoS. Lana disappears. Can life go on without Lana…

So here comes Bride. They’re dancing, swept up in the moment, they lower their walls. Clark takes the lead and pulls her in for a dance. Love it! Sexy, self-assured, she rolls her eyes nervously, she’s clearly thrown her off her game; but gives in to his advances and allows herself to be guided to him for a dance. squee They’re dancing, she gets bumped into him, their eyes meet, loads of eye communication, then mutually, because that’s how I saw it, it was a mutual almost kiss, they start moving in. In that moment they were on the same page; they both wanted it. Then lo and behold who walks in? Let me just say, I don’t blame Clark at all for his reaction and turning away from Lois; he was in shock and couldn’t believe his eyes, he had no warning she was going to show back up. But the look on Lois’s face said it all, she knew he was right back in Lanaville; and in the span of a nanosecond Lois slipped right off his radar. So what was she going to do, challenge Lana to a duel and have a cat-fight over Clark? Play emotional games with him to try and recapture his attention from Lana? Chase him around declaring her love, a Fever letter perhaps? No, she did what anyone with any sense would do who thinks the other person is not over their ex, she walked away from the situation and gave him his space so he could work it out. But did she move on, no, she waited and waited and got what? Three 10-second calls from him the entire time she was gone?

Does Lois love him? Did she say it to anyone? She told Ollie she thought for just a moment he needed her but has she said to anyone she needs him?

Does she love him as in, kryptonite poisoning bring you to your knees love? No, I think she’s in that kind of love, at this stage. But I think she is recognizing that she’s developing some very real feelings for him as expressed in the barn scene. You don’t think he understand the feelings she was conveying? He even told her he got it. And I believe him, he understood; but he made the choice, for what ever reason, that she wasn’t important enough, yet, to go to that next step.

And actually she did tell Clark in Siren how it felt to be left behind because of not being important enough to that other person, because of their greater calling, even her own father left her behind. And yet, she sucked up her fears and was willing to take a chance on Clark when she found out his secret.

Clark: Lois you don’t have to explain, I get it.

Lois: No, you don’t. How can someone with x-ray vision be so (friggin’) blind? I’ve been down the hero road before and every time I made a giant U-turn. But this…this was different.

Clark deflecting: And this time it will be different, Lois, when I do this no one’s going to remember who I am.

Lois: And when you hit your reset button, you’re not going to tell me your secret, are you?

Clark rejecting: I’m sorry.

Lois: That’s okay. Why should I think I’m special? Clark, I understand.

Clark: Lois, you don’t understand, it’s because:
a) You are special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TnhNxKNlU)
b) You are special (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070221162523AAHtWnh)
c) You are special (http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/excerpts/2004-09-08-hes-just_x.htm)
d) You are special (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/CrouchingLurker/Avatars/SpecialEd.jpg)

She doesn’t remember the conversation, but I do. So can I root for Smallville Clois at this point in time? Well, believe it or not yes I can; even though I really have no idea what, “you are special” means because it’s such a vague expression. She’s special, but not special enough to pursue a relationship with? I dunno. But I’m still a sucker for all this so I’m hoping, praying Clark will meet Lois for coffee in the reset, so they can talk this out and express their mutual feelings again (in this timeline) face-to-face. *crickets*

You and I have agreed that was lame on his part; but I’m rehashing all that because it illustrates why I feel Clark needs to be the one convincing and pursuing Lois, at least for a short time, not indefinitely. Because of that long history of sniffing after Lana (See Power and Requiem on a TV screen near you), I don’t think Lois has got anything else to prove at this particular point in time. And Clark doesn’t seem to mind anyway. While I certainly don’t want him in the barn wallowing in self-pity, when Lois isn’t around he doesn’t seem to give a care one way or another; her name is never even mentioned. The end of their last scene in Hex pretty much summed up the state of their relationship.

He asks her if she’s planning a big night, she didn’t bring the subject up, he did. But she responds, she has a date.

He says, *meep*

Lois: so what are your plans?

Clark: hanging around here blah, blah…you want me to call you if something unimportant comes up? (Good overture! But now you have to explain reason why you’d want to interrupt her date. Still, major props for Clark)

Lois: You mean if you want to stand me up again?- Ouch, now that was little harsh on her part, I admit, since she lied and told him she couldn’t make it either. But, it was a verbal challenge to prove that he actually gives a damn.

Clark: Lois that was a mis…

Lois: You’re right that was a mistake; let’s call this whole close proximity spark off. Back to basics. (Even though she cut him off, the door of opportunity is still wide open here)

Clark: No, Lois, I want to talk about this. Oops, wait, my hopes got ahead of me. He says, “Sure, that sounds like a good rule.” http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/CrouchingLurker/Smilies/noreaction.jpg

Lois: http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/CrouchingLurker/Smilies/noreaction.jpg, then adds, you should add that to the list.

Clark: http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/CrouchingLurker/Smilies/conf3.gif

And with that I guess we’re done here. See ya in September; because that’s the state of the relationship. It’s on hold. So in the mean time, I want Lois to go out on this date or others if she’s asked, get to work looking for RBB for her story, keep herself busy at the DP and stay out of Clark’s way until he can figure out what he wants and how he’s going to juggle that with his secret.

Listen, I'm not blaming Lois for much because i think Clark looks like an idiot in all of this but all I read is how Lois should just move on, how Lois should just go do her own thing, just ignore Clark and go out and have a good time because he's this or he's that...as though she's been so up front about being in love with him and he's just turned his back on her. She hasn't exactly been in your face obvious. So to imply that she's given it her best shot and she should move on...well, I strongly disagree if we're talking about Lois Lane and not Paris Hilton. Lois will assume the identity of a super-heroine and the inherent risks simply to draw out the RBB but shouldn't make any more effort with Clark IF she loves him?

I don’t blame Lois either, or Clark for that matter, Jack, I just think based on Clark’s reaction to every single thing that confronts him, that he still needs more time to sort things out between his secret and fitting that in with a relationship. I thought after all these years, he was there. But apparently he isn’t or he wouldn’t be so bugged out about telling Lois his secret and/or pursuing a relationship with her. Lois doesn’t need to chase a man-child around and the last thing he needs is someone pressuring him if he’s not ready. JMO

From where I’m sitting, Clark is the one holding all the cards in this little poker game of theirs:

1. He knows he’s got this secret that he’s allowing to hold him back
2. He knows what happened when Lana returned and the affect she had on him, even to the point of pledging his undying love to her
3. He knows what Lois said to him in Infamous in that barn
4. He knows she was there at the Café to talk things over

Therefore, the onus is on him to make the effort to resolve those things, IMO, not Lois. This is his journey from childhood to manhood. And in the larger scheme of things, it’s not even about Clois, that’s only a facet of it, that’s why this show will never be L&C. He must decide what he wants his life to become; how he wants to use these gifts to help others and how a personal life might fit into that, if he so chooses it. It means he has to decide to become proactive instead of reacting to things around him. Lois doesn’t have anything to prove. We’ve been watching Clark since Pilot, not her. He has to show how he’s different from the confused alien boy we met in the series premiere.

I guess that's one way of putting it. Maybe the other way of putting it is how serious are you of getting your guy if you really won't say anything to him and when he doesn't catch on to all your inferences, you give up?

Or better yet, how serious are you about getting your woman when you mutter, Lois is so… Chloe: Lois? Clark: Yeah. Then 5 minutes later you’re destroying your parent’s antique bed banging your ex? He needs to catch on to what’s going on in his own brain, not to mention his very own actions, first.

How is Clark supposed to realize that Lois has feelings for him if she's out dating other guys? Wasn't it Lois who once mentioned burying your heartache in your work? Would Clark expect she is heartbroken if she's out dating random guys from an airplane trip?

You know what? He’ll figure it out when he’s ready. How many times has he barged into the Luthor Mansion past security just to talk to Lex? Or blurred into the Talon apartment uninvited and w/o warning to get something from Chloe? He even managed to kidnap Lana from her own engagement party to make her talk to him, yeah his bravado was provided to him courtesy of Red-K, but it didn’t change who he is. He knows how to speak up or get things done when he sets his mind to it. And he’ll know how find Lois when he’s ready. He’s “lobbed grenades” into her other relationships during a time described by some as a brother-sister relationship. When he wants her, he’ll let her know in clear, easy to understand English, or a passionate kiss. ;)

The real question is has Clark moved on? I don’t think he has, Jack; he’s only beginning to do so and until he has completely moved on, those questions you asked are moot because at this point he doesn’t belong in any romantic relationship, IMO. That doesn’t mean Lois or he should have to stay at home moping/pining. He shouldn’t be moping anyway; he needs to be getting in shape and doing his homework so he can square off with Doomsday. He’s got plenty of other things to do right now. They will find their way to each other eventually, they’ll get there. In time they will learn to trust and communicate with each other and appreciate why they are perfect for each other, in Season 9. *crosses fingers*

The true frustration, to be told Charlotte, is that this push-pull type writing serves only one purpose - to delay, stall and string along the audience. We saw it for 7 years between Clark and Lana and to me, it appears we're going to see it until time runs out between Clark and Lois and that IS NOT the way Clois should be written. Clois should be shown to be different than Clark and Lois' other relationships.

On that we agree, my friend. But thanks to the AoS (and the Season 9 renew) Clois has been sabotaged and now they really need to pace this relationship out so that the relationship is legit and not a rebound. This is what we got stuck with.

THAT is the real frustration because the writers never even had to go down this road if they did not intend showing a romantic relationship between Lois and Clark. They could have kept it platonic. But instead, they get the audience (those who like the idea) amped up for romance and they constantly deny the viewers any payoff because they think in doing so they will soon thereafter lose the audience and they will run out of interesting things to write about. So instead, they manipulate interest based on inferences, based on teasers, and based on spoilers that never quite pan out and we end up saying, "well, next week it's bound to happen because it says so in the spoilers". Kind of like that flying ability.

Yup, I agree with you, Jack, it sucks to be manipulated, but here we are. I’ve still got a front row seat on the Clois train, despite the 5 pages of pontificating, lol. I’ve just been watching the trailer for Stiletto and I’m squeeing like a fangirl over Clois. So they know how to work us. Makes me mad, but I’ll keep hanging on till the last episode of the series waiting for any, little Clois morsels they feed me. Yes, I’m pathetic, I admit it.

workshyslacker

04-03-2009, 04:38 PM

Lois doesn’t need to chase a man-child around and the last thing he needs is someone pressuring him if he’s not ready. JMO

From where I’m sitting, Clark is the one holding all the cards in this little poker game of theirs:

1. He knows he’s got this secret that he’s allowing to hold him back
2. He knows what happened when Lana returned and the affect she had on him, even to the point of pledging his undying love to her
3. He knows what Lois said to him in Infamous in that barn
4. He knows she was there at the Café to talk things over

Wonderful post, Charlotte. ITA with everything you said. I would not be happy if anyone were to chase after someone who;

1. has rejected them for their ex.
2. may not be over their ex
3. did not turn up for a meeting to discuss a potentially romantic moment
4. has not voiced their feelings to suggest they are interested or they have moved on.

...because if they did, they're just asking for their heart to be trampled on. The ball is definitely in Clark's court. I would also like to add that apart from the near-kiss, Lois has made all the overtures.

1. She told him how she felt about him in Infamous. (AND he remembers - she doesn't) So he knows if he were to approach her unreservedly, he's unlikely to be rejected. She doesn't have that luxury.
2. She suggested the meeting.

From Lois' POV, she doesn't know its destiny, she doesn't know it's iconic. She's still hurt. It makes more sense that she tries to get over him. And she's trying to do it proactively. I applaud her. If Clark tries to get back on the same playing field once he's over Lana, then I'm all for it, but he has some work to do.

Crouching Lurker

04-03-2009, 06:22 PM

Wonderful post, Charlotte. ITA with everything you said. I would not be happy if anyone were to chase after someone who;

1. has rejected them for their ex.
2. may not be over their ex
3. did not turn up for a meeting to discuss a potentially romantic moment
4. has not voiced their feelings to suggest they are interested or they have moved on.

...because if they did, they're just asking for their heart to be trampled on. The ball is definitely in Clark's court. I would also like to add that apart from the near-kiss, Lois has made all the overtures.

That's how I see it too. Again, I think Hex was a good start for Clark, at least he's not turning his nose up at the suggestion that he likes Lois being a part of his life. Hopefully we'll be shown even more in Stiletto.

1. She told him how she felt about him in Infamous. (AND he remembers - she doesn't) So he knows if he were to approach her unreservedly, he's unlikely to be rejected. She doesn't have that luxury.
2. She suggested the meeting.

From Lois' POV, she doesn't know its destiny, she doesn't know it's iconic. She's still hurt. It makes more sense that she tries to get over him. And she's trying to do it proactively. I applaud her. If Clark tries to get back on the same playing field once he's over Lana, then I'm all for it, but he has some work to do.

Amen!

MrsClarkKent27

04-03-2009, 07:43 PM

Of course he's started to move on! Lois is his future! And he won't give up of her ! I am sooooooo happy! Clois!