TV Ratings for "Hex"

[Routh]

Discuss the television ratings for Hex here!

[josue_can]

3.5 million. After that, I predict the TiVo/dvr are gonna be high after word of mouth goes out about how good the episode was. Final: 4.8 mil

[Supsfan]

This rating should be interesting. It's up against AI and not Bones. If it goes above 4M one can make an arguement of the effect of Bones on the ratings

[geminis]

I'm not good at speculation but I hope that it's at least 4.0. And in my area I believe Supernatural is up against AI and not SV.

[Jaderoyale]

Well the past two episodes haven't done as well as they deserved IMO. But we'll see.
The episode hasn't been that largely promoted - or i could be wrong, i've been steering clear of spoilers since the OD came out.

[marcella]

More than Turbulence, please

[Autumn]

This rating should be interesting. It's up against AI and not Bones. If it goes above 4M one can make an arguement of the effect of Bones on the ratings

Is Bones on tonight? If not, then I suspect a boost in the ratings. If it is on, then I do not think the ratings will go good for Smallville. I think Bones is a much bigger threat than American Idol because a lot of Smallville viewers are Bones fans, myself included.

[theotherJane]

I'd say slight improvment over last week, but not by a whole lot.

[FlashInSV]

Is Bones on tonight? If not, then I suspect a boost in the ratings. If it is on, then I do not think the ratings will go good for Smallville. I think Bones is a much bigger threat than American Idol because a lot of Smallville viewers are Bones fans, myself included.

ITA. And I am a SV/Bones fan, too. Btw, can you BELIEVE that they are not showing Bones for AI??:eek:

[Autumn]

Well the past two episodes haven't done as well as they deserved IMO. But we'll see.
The episode hasn't been that largely promoted - or i could be wrong, i've been steering clear of spoilers since the OD came out.

Well, this episode has been much more promoted than last week, which is sad considering how great last week's episode was (an episode that non Smallville fans could appreciate I think). Last week had hardly anything, unless you know to look for the director's cut, which not many know about and the CF interview. Still pretty minimal.

We'll see how it turns out. Again, if Bones is on, then I'd be worried about the ratings.

[marcella]

Bones not airing tonight will be good for SV, I guess

[Autumn]

ITA. And I am a SV/Bones fan, too. Btw, can you BELIEVE that they are not showing Bones for AI??:eek:

I know. I'd much rather watch Bones than AI, especially for just an elimination round. Those things are so boring and drag on forever!

[smallvillerocks45]

3.5 million. After that, I predict the TiVo/dvr are gonna be high after word of mouth goes out about how good the episode was. Final: 4.8 mil

I think you're right on about Smallville having a huge bump in TiVo/DVR ratings. I just hope the show does better than the previous two episodes did - they were wonderful, but up against some major competition - Bones, March Madness, and now American Idol... oh well, I know I'll be watching Smallville tonight!

[Autumn]

Bones not airing tonight will be good for SV, I guess

Probably good for Smallville, unless those fans who left forget to come back. ;)

[TheLastKryptonian]

I'm hoping for at least 4 million.

But it's not a good night for Smallville.

There's basketball on CBS

American Idol on FOX

Samantha Who? on ABC (but then again without Dancing with the Stars as a lead in as in previous seasons it may not get huge ratings tonight)

Then there's My Name is Earl and Kath and Kim on NBC which do slightly better than Smallville.

[Cogito17]

Sweet 16 games are going on tonight in the NCAA tournament, along with the usual competition.

Hopefully SV will hold it's own.

[txluvstom]

I don't want to scare anybody,but America's Top Model only got 2.85 last night and it wasn't a repeat.

[OkiyaShuichi]

o.O i think around 3.2

[bizzaroboy9]

what is the world coming to! i hope smallville and supernatural do well!

[skylar]

Even though I love Bones I'm glad Bones isn't on tonight gives SV a little hope
in the rating.

[Tompouce]

Melisa J : I like your avatar A LOT;)

[dunkman]

I always wait until 8:30 or so to start watching it on my DVR so I can fast forward through the commercials. Do I affect the ratings doing it that way?

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^ David, it only counts if you are a Nielsen Family, with a Box.:/

DC characters seem to help Ratings, but with the seasonal slump I'm going with 3.85 mil.

Surprised about ANTM, wonder why it dropped so low?
I'm sure Smallville can beat that:)

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm just hoping it's 3.5 million or more. :)

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Surprised about ANTM, wonder why it dropped so low?
I'm sure Smallville can beat that:)

It was against a performance night of American Idol, and I assume there's probably a lot of crossover audience. :\
I sure hope Smallville can beat ANTM's number!

[superdoomsday]

Probably in the 3 million. I doubt it would be 4.

[latingirl]

4

[tyson08]

This episode had everything but I feel it won't get the rating it deserves.

These past three episodes have been great but circumstances from past episodes (we all know what), in my opinion, have had an impact of the viewers. I hope people see the show has gotten back on the track that the season began with and it's here to stay!

[Night_Hawk90]

barely over 3 million

[Amelie]

I hope they go up but I'm not expecting a miracle since the episodes have suffered a steep decline since Requiem. I'll say that a 3.7 would be reasonable. As long as the ratings steadily increase I'll be happy.

[Dominicus]

No naysaying here, it was a great episode regardless of ratings. I'm hoping for a rebounding surprise, nothing wrong with being optimistic even knowing the realistics odds.

[gilliang]

I'm hoping for a ratings rebound as well :)

[costas22]

Was there a game last night?If so,i expect it to be near Turbulence.If not,it should be close to 4mil.

[dreammaster]

Once again I will predict that it will be around 3.7 million

[SupermanRox]

I say it will be around 3.5 million.

[Supsfan]

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/200104911/m/933109891?r=773109891#773109891


The CW capped off the evening with original episodes of the already renewed Smallville (2.5/ 4), which heads into season nine next fall (time flies!) and the very compatible Supernatural (2.3/ 4), which enters season five.

By comparison, last week's episode had a 2.4 share, how many people in millions that is though I have no clue.

[costas22]

It might go up compared to Turbulence.I know that Bones was on,but was there a game last night?

[Supsfan]

It might go up compared to Turbulence.I know that Bones was on,but was there a game last night?

I think it was up against AI and College basketball

[costas22]

I think it was up against AI and College basketball

Thanx!No Bones then.I know that AI doesn bigger ratings than Bones but it's not as close as a product to Smallville that Bones is.We could witness a spike here.My guess?3.7-3.9.

[Supsfan]

Thanx!No Bones then.I know that AI doesn bigger ratings than Bones but it's not as close as a product to Smallville that Bones is.We could witness a spike here.My guess?3.7-3.9.

Hard to say I never get what the share number exactly means but since it's slight spike up, I am guessing by time the final numbers come out it will be in that range.

[geminis]

In my area it was just up against basketball. AI played against Supernatural.

I do hope there is a spike in numbers and that it goes up, up, and away.

[theotherJane]

Melisa J : I like your avatar A LOT;)

Thanks, sweetie. It's not mine though. I wish I knew who made it, but all credit goes to that person. ;)

[batfinx]

The CW capped off the evening with original episodes of the already renewed Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.74 million; A18-49: #5, 1.5/ 4), which heads into season nine next fall (time flies!) and the very compatible Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 3.17 million; A18-49: #5, 1.2/ 3), which enters season five.

Good, it moved upward. Nice for Supernatural too.

[Supsfan]

Good, it moved upward. Nice for Supernatural too.

I am guessing when finals come out it will inch just over 3.8M, not to bad though

[SparkleforSmallville]

3.74 mil. not bad, Hex was a funny Episode. I laughed alot!
Hope the Final goes up.:)

Congrats to those who guessed 3.7, you get a chocolate covered Doughnut! :D

[costas22]

3.74 is good.Hope it goes up on the finals.It was nice for a change not having Bones against Smallville.

[Tompouce]

3.74 mil. not bad, Hex was a funny Episode. I laughed alot!
Hope the Final goes up.:)

Congrats to those who guessed 3.7, you get a chocolate covered Doughnut! :D
looool:lol:
Thanks for the information:)

[batfinx]

3.74 is good.Hope it goes up on the finals.It was nice for a change not having Bones against Smallville.

Yeah, it was up against American Idol last night. I don't think Idol has crossover viewer potential like Bones. The bigger competition this week was NCAA. The March Madness games have really taken a bite. On the other hand I don't think NCAA has much crossover with Bones viewers, so maybe some Bones fans watched Smallville.

[theotherJane]

Yay.... first time I was right about this. I said slight improvment over last week and that's what it was.

[Tompouce]

Thanks, sweetie. It's not mine though. I wish I knew who made it, but all credit goes to that person. ;)
There is no name ? It is like a postcard or something like that ? I can check if you want. If I see the same in Paris, I will tell you;)

[Amelie]

I hope they go up but I'm not expecting a miracle since the episodes have suffered a steep decline since Requiem. I'll say that a 3.7 would be reasonable. As long as the ratings steadily increase I'll be happy.

Quoting myself because I was right! Lol. I'm so happy that SV is steadily increasing (or at least I hope it will start to do that).

[Fallen One]

Considering the competition, a 3.74 is very good. I hope the upward trend continues.

[Supsfan]

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/03/27/thursday-ratings-american-idol-dominates-in-the-motherhood-premiere-near-ugly-betty-numbers/15307#more-15307

half hour break downs

8:00 - 3.489
8:30 - 3,989

[Dominicus]

3.74 is good.Hope it goes up on the finals.It was nice for a change not having Bones against Smallville.American idol was competition enough. Aren't these the ratings around Infamous's? And Bones was on that night, right? And basketball? It could simply spike based on the interest of the episode alone. Hex got some promotion/exposure, so maybe that was a factor. Are the finals in yet?

[curiosity]

Lois and Clark scenes are fun to watch.

[Amelie]

Infamous aired in a bad week. Yes there are other factors but this one is a big factor. It aired in a very competitive week and had competition from multiple networks and on top of that it was preempted in several places.

[marcella]

3.74 is great:D

I think it will go up in the finals

[costas22]

American idol was competition enough. Aren't these the ratings around Infamous's? And Bones was on that night, right? And basketball? It could simply spike based on the interest of the episode alone. Hex got some promotion/exposure, so maybe that was a factor. Are the finals in yet? <!-- / message -->

I think that the finals will be in in about 5 hours.Bones was against Infamous.AI i think scores a bigger rating than Bones.But it's what batfinx said.Bones is more of a common program with Smallville than AI.That's why i think it chips away at Smallville more than AI does.Hex had a fantastic trailer last week so the promotion was good.If the game wasn't on,i think Smallville could have reached 4mil last night.

[Dominicus]

3.74 is great:D

I think it will go up in the finalsI agree!:D

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I think that the finals will be in in about 5 hours.Bones was against Infamous.AI i think scores a bigger rating than Bones.But it's what batfinx said.Bones is more of a common program with Smallville than AI.That's why i think it chips away at Smallville more than AI does.Hex had a fantastic trailer last week so the promotion was good.If the game wasn't on,i think Smallville could have reached 4mil last night.:)I hope so, Hex was a good enough episode to keep interest.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Cool, good ratings. :)

[davidbrenton]

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/03/27/thursday-ratings-american-idol-dominates-in-the-motherhood-premiere-near-ugly-betty-numbers/15307#more-15307

half hour break downs

8:00 - 3.489
8:30 - 3,989

Awesome. It jumped 500k viewers in the second half hour. (The high screentime of ED couldn't have hurt there).


Good. Smallville is beginning to build traction. It's ashame we'll have a break after next week because I think we'll hit 4M again next week.

[costas22]

Good. Smallville is beginning to build traction. It's ashame we'll have a break after next week because I think we'll hit 4M again next week. <!-- / message -->

The breaks have become frustrating.After Christmas we are having a break after every 4 episodes.Difficult to build momentum like that.Next week should be interesting.Yesterday Smallville dealt mostly with the game.There was no Bones.Next week Bones will be back but if the games have ended,Smallville might still do this number and even better.It's the combination of these two that does the damage.

[bizzaroboy9]

i bet the final number is from 3.94 to 4.10

[tyson08]

Survivor is next week, along with Bones.

[Dresden]

I hate that we will have a break before Stiletto. That will definitely affect the episode ratings. :( But I hope that next episode increases in ratings too! If we even get close to 4 million I'll be happy!

[costas22]

Survivor is next week, along with Bones.

What's worse?Bones and Survivor or Bones and a game?

[Amelie]

Oh man, new bones next week? Smallville is toast!

[Tompouce]

Awesome. It jumped 500k viewers in the second half hour. (The high screentime of ED couldn't have hurt there).


Good. Smallville is beginning to build traction. It's ashame we'll have a break after next week because I think we'll hit 4M again next week.
Honestly, I don't undertand the way they manage it. Breaks are not a good thing. People go elsewhere (except us, of course:D)and try to watch other things...I mean, of course, they need breaks to make it longer but there is nothing to help people to come back...:(

[mr lane]

per k-site home page

This Week's Ratings "Hex"ed By Idol
American Idol had its results show on Thursday night for a change this week, which doubled the usual FOX ratings for Bones. However, Smallville did grow from last week's overnights, which were some of the lowest in the show's history.

Next week, Bones and Survivor return. But you'll all be watching "Eternal," right?

Here's the overnight-ratings breakdown for last night (Source: Mediaweek):

Rank Show Network Rating
(in millions of viewers) Last Week
#1 American Idol FOX 22.35 N/A
#2 NCAA Basketball CBS 10.12 9.78 (#2)
#3 In The Motherhood
(8:00-8:30) ABC 6.72 N/A
#4 Samantha Who?
(8:30-9:00) ABC 6.53 N/A
#5 My Name Is Earl
(8:00-8:30) NBC 5.87 6.42 (#4)
#6 The Office (R) (8:30-9:00) NBC 4.87 4.64 (R) (#5)
#7 Smallville The CW 3.74 (3.29) Last week #6

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not sure if this had been posted yet, i didnt see it

[Alicia Chipy]

Start watching SV everyone,those ratings need to go "UP,UP, and AWAY!"

[marcella]

I can't wait to see the finals

[mr lane]

probably because thursday is the most competitve night i dont think any other show could hold up in the top 10 but smallville

SV is the CW's highest rated show

[wafflles87]

They should fall down on their hands and knees and thank Erica for savig their show, but that's just me

[mr lane]

They should fall down on their hands and knees and thank Erica for savig their show, but that's just me

high five cam

ita

[joesmallville]

Final Rating

Smallville
- 3.798 million viewers
- 2.3/4 HH
- 1.6/4 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34

[costas22]

3.8?Ok.Next week it will be a big test.Bones but no game.

[wafflles87]

high five cam

ita

~high fives Josh~

Ratings five ~whip sound~

[Dominicus]

3.8?Ok.Next week it will be a big test.Bones but no game.No Lois either hmn.... but the episode looks appealing regardless.

[bizzaroboy9]

3.8 is okay but i was hoping for 3.9
next week it'll be 4 M!

[costas22]

No Lois either hmn.... but the episode looks appealing regardless.

Lois can be a factor seeing how popular she is here in the forums.But Turbulence was a fantastic episode even without her.Eternal is appealing and i wish that we finally go back to 4mil.It's not right that the last episode that got over 4 mil was Power.Of course then there was no Bones and no NCAA.I am amazed at how contained this topic has been this week.23 hours have passed form Hex and we still have only 4 pages!

[marcella]

3.8?

That's good. Something tells me that Eternal won't have better ratings, because of the competition

[Jaderoyale]

Thank heavens the ratings seem to be going up.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil.


S7 "Veritas" on 3-27-08, Final *3.86 mil.

[Dominicus]

Lois can be a factor seeing how popular she is here in the forums.But Turbulence was a fantastic episode even without her.Eternal is appealing and i wish that we finally go back to 4mil.It's not right that the last episode that got over 4 mil was Power.Of course then there was no Bones and no NCAA.I am amazed at how contained this topic has been this week.23 hours have passed form Hex and we still have only 4 pages!ITA. I wish Turbulence got the ratings it deserved.

[halvor311]

Wow, really big improvement this week. First part was not that impressive, but the last 30 minutes was a huge improvement, I have a feeling we won't get back to the 4 million viewers we used to have, but Smallville is basically sustaining the CW so The CW will keep it up as long as possible, after Season 9 the show will be done. I saw a fan made trailer for a spin-off called "Metropolis" about the early days of Superman. That'd be pretty cool. I hope Perry White becomes part of the cast next season.

[ChlarkerFan]

So much for those predicting that the show would not bounce back after the Clana arc. I know a few people were saying the ratings would continue to decrease and yet this episode did the opposite. I predict that next weeks episode will be between 3.9 to 4.0.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I think it's very possible we will get back to the 4mil in S9 or later this season. The last half of S7 was in the 3mils, and Season 8 started with 4mils. There is usually a slump in ratings in the Spring.

[costas22]

I just hope now that NCAA is out if the way,that the show will start to fight back against Bones a bit more.We have great episodes coming up.Some of them are able to go over 4mil even with Bones against them.However ,i think Bloodline's record won't be broken.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think it's very possible we will get back to the 4mil in S9 or later this season. The last half of S7 was in the 3mils, and Season 8 started with 4mils. There is usually a slump in ratings in the Spring.

I'm also believing we'll get average 4mil, next season.

[OkiyaShuichi]

Better.

[bizzaroboy9]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil.


S7 "Veritas" on 3-27-08, Final *3.86 mil.

That doesn't matter. Only the previous episode 17s of the series. It beat last year S7 Sleeper's number which was 3.62 M. However Hex was pretty close to S6 Combat's 4.07 M and also to note, it had the exact same number as S4 Onyx's 3.8 M! How cool is that!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats pretty cool.

[anewbie]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil.


S7 "Veritas" on 3-27-08, Final *3.86 mil.


what does the LIVE+7 mean? where do they get those numbers?... sorry I am new here.. this is actually my first post.

[Supsfan]

what does the LIVE+7 mean? where do they get those numbers?... sorry I am new here.. this is actually my first post.

Live+7 is people who DVR(personal video recorder) the episode and watch it within a week of it's first airing

[zHeN_zHeN]

The ratings will go "up, up, and away" by the time the Finale rolls around! Lol.. :D

[amberdawn]

Glad there was improvement.

[Supsfan]

The ratings will go "up, up, and away" by the time the Finale rolls around! Lol.. :D

My guess is the 2 week break(after Eternal) will bump them back down

[smallvillerocks45]

Hi anewbie,

Live ratings are the number of household shares that saw an episode on the night of a show's broadcast. The +7 refers to the amount of viewers who saw the episode on their DVR/TiVo seven days after the first airing of the show. Thus, Live+7 is essentially the sum of both the live and 7 day ratings...


However, what I keep hearing in my media classes that networks, like the CW, only care about Live+3 numbers. I'm not sure how the networks use the Live+7 numbers, but it still gives a better picture of who is watching the show than just overnight ratings.


I hope that was helpful.

Welcome to boards! I hope you enjoy your stay on Kryptonsite! :)

[costas22]

That doesn't matter. Only the previous episode 17s of the series. It beat last year S7 Sleeper's number which was 3.62 M. However Hex was pretty close to S6 Combat's 4.07 M and also to note, it had the exact same number as S4 Onyx's 3.8 M! How cool is that!

The comparison between the 17th episodes is only on paper.The real comparison is between the same weeks of each year.Sleeper didn't play during March MAdness.Veritas did.What is good though,is that compared to last season,Smallville is gathering momentum going into the last 5.

[skully]

Come on, the little show that could. Let's get back above 4 million.

[RedKRules]

too low ... but totally expected .... all these storylines/characters controversies are definitely being noticed and the ratings only reflects it.

[Joelito]

The show isn't the same, they (TPTB) are stretching it too much... ¬.¬

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'm glad the ratings went up from last week. Maybe, just maybe, they'll go up again next week without NCAA in the mix. This also makes Smallville the most watched show of the week on the CW. :D

Here's how "Turbulence" ranked in total viewers on the CW for the week of Monday, March 16, 2009 - Sunday, March 22, 2009.

1. America's Next Top Model - 3.79 million viewers
2. Smallville - 3.49
3. Supernatural - 3.37
4. One Tree Hill - 2.41
5. Gossip Girl - 2.43
6. Reaper - 1.96
7. The Game - 1.81
8. Everybody Hates Chris - 1.67
9. America's Next Top Model (R) - 1.58
10. The Mod Squad (movie) - 1.00
11. Jericho (R) - 0.97
12. 90210 (R, Wednesday) - 0.88
13. 90210 (R) - 0.64

Here are the season averages thus far for all the the CW's shows:

1. Smallville (16 episodes) - 4.06 million viewers
2. America's Next Top Model (15) - 4.04
3. Supernatural (16) - 3.27
4. Gossip Girl (18) - 3.01
5. One Tree Hill (17) - 3.00
6. 90210 (16) - 2.96
7. Reaper (3) - 2.15
8. Privileged (18) - 1.82
9. Stylista (8) - 1.72
10. The Game (15) - 1.68
11. Everybody Hates Chris (17) - 1.67
12. 13: Fear Is Real (8) - 1.22

As I averaged in the newer episodes, I noticed that every single show's average dropped, except for America's Next Top Model's, which stayed the same (and it's average will definately drop once I add in this week's numbers).


too low ... but totally expected .... all these storylines/characters controversies are definitely being noticed and the ratings only reflects it.

:confused:

The ratings always drop this time of the year. It's nothing new.

[RedKRules]

That was not the point I was trying to make, but carry on .. I won't discuss the ratings because you know .... it will only get lower anyway. and I am sure it will be nothing new, and understandable .....

I mean no KK, MR, JG and there will be another loss from the original cast .... let's see how the ratings will do next season.

[ClarkyBoy14]

That was not the point I was trying to make, but carry on .. I won't discuss the ratings because you know .... it will only get lower anyway. and I am sure it will be nothing new, and understandable .....

I mean no KK, MR, JG and there will be another loss from the original cast .... let's see how the ratings will do next season.

The ratings right now are very similar to what they were last year, and we lost half of last year's cast. Besides, the spring always causes ratings across the networks to go down. ;) :)

However, I'm glad we we don't really need to worry about next season's ratings, since it will be the last season.

[marcella]

I hope we get again 4 million in next episodes

[batfinx]

too low ... but totally expected .... all these storylines/characters controversies are definitely being noticed and the ratings only reflects it.

This episode did better than several last year after the show came back from hiatus like Fracture, Hero, Traveler, Descent and Sleeper. It also came close to tying two others, Persona and Apocalypse, both of those got 3.81. In fact the only post-hiatus episode that went over 4 million last year other than the finale was Siren, so I don't know why you think this rating is too low, but I do like the avatar of Davis' head in a toilet seat.


I mean no KK, MR, JG and there will be another loss from the original cast .... let's see how the ratings will do next season.

That's actually what's so amazing about the ratings. Two lead characters and one supporting character from 7 years of Smallville were missing this year, but it's clear their absence hasn't put any big dent in the ratings. And while it's true the ratings could go back down next week, or after the next hiatus, that's par for the course and no real need to worry since the show has already been renewed.

[Night_Hawk90]

wow not even 4 million, this show is lucky its on a crappy network

[davidbrenton]

wow not even 4 million, this show is lucky its on a crappy network

Yes, it is. And we are also lucky in that way.

[costas22]

Then again,on another network it might have had a bigger budget thus having better special effects and could have also kept people like Michael Rosenbaum.

[Dresden]

wow not even 4 million, this show is lucky its on a crappy network

What came first the egg or the chicken? Whose to say that the poor ratings aren't a direct consequence of the series being on a small network? We don't know what kind of success Smallville would have found on a large network like Fox or NBC, it could have been as big as heroes was in the first season if it had landed on a large network that wasn't shy about promoting it for all it was worth.

But even now on a small network, Smallville is doing well. Sure the ratings have declined (even based on CW rating standards) but this week the show's ratings increased and I'm willing to bet they will continue to increase next week, too. And if this happens then the ratings will match the beginning of the season and small network or not, it's still the top rated show on the CW and it beats out well written shows like Supernatural (which I think is one of the best shows not just on the CW but in TV in general) and brand new highly promoted shows like Gossip Girl. That's not too bad for an old croner like Smallville with 8 years under it's belt and very little promotion from the CW.

[redeyes]

They are too low...... American Idol needs to stop being on Thursdays.

[Dresden]

They are too low...... American Idol needs to stop being on Thursdays.

AI crushes all it's competition. Bones is also a ratings hit. Now *both* are on Thursdays competing with Smallville. That isn't good. I'm wondering if next season SV will get a new time or day...

[myankskent]

AI crushes all it's competition. Bones is also a ratings hit. Now *both* are on Thursdays competing with Smallville. That isn't good. I'm wondering if next season SV will get a new time or day...

I think that Smallville will stay right where it is. I think that the CW like having the Smallville/Supernatural combo on Thursdays, at least for now. The big question is...will Bones be on Thursday nights next fall? If it is, that will hurt Smallville.

[costas22]

I think that Smallville will stay right where it is. I think that the CW like having the Smallville/Supernatural combo on Thursdays, at least for now. The big question is...will Bones be on Thursday nights next fall? If it is, that will hurt Smallville.

I also think that the CW isn't changing their Thursday combo.If they try putting 90210 or Melrose against Bones,then that's the last we will see of them.I am afraid Bones won't change so quickly.We will have to deal with it next year too.

[ClarkyBoy14]

What came first the egg or the chicken? Whose to say that the poor ratings aren't a direct consequence of the series being on a small network? We don't know what kind of success Smallville would have found on a large network like Fox or NBC, it could have been as big as heroes was in the first season if it had landed on a large network that wasn't shy about promoting it for all it was worth.

I agree. If SV were on a bigger network, it would probably have bigger ratings. We can't say for sure how SV would do on a larger network; however, we do know that SV is the most watched program on its own network.

[marcella]

I think Bones is worse for SV than AI, because many SV fans are Bones fans too

[Mrs. Superman]

I'm glad to see an increase. Last week's ratings were too low for my liking. And after this weeks episode I can see the ratings start to increase steadily. *fingers crossed*

[Kschreck]

I wish Smallville did better. It's such an amazing show and deserves better ratings and a bigger budget. I am glad that it was renewed for at least one more season and I hope that the ratings for season nine are good.

[john100]

Bones is clearly the biggest competition for Smallville

[SnowBird]

Bones is clearly the biggest competition for Smallville

I agree, Bones is competition. I've watched it a few times in the past and wonder why? How many ways to solve a murder is dull compared to something new every week that Smallvile provides. Bones viewers don't know what a great show they are missing in SV...I'm glad the ratings went up this week and hopefully will continue.

[costas22]

I agree, Bones is competition. I've watched it a few times in the past and wonder why? How many ways to solve a murder is dull compared to something new every week that Smallvile provides. Bones viewers don't know what a great show they are missing in SV...I'm glad the ratings went up this week and hopefully will continue.

I don't mind Bones being up against us.I am sure that in time Smallville will stand up against it.What bothered me,was that it happened midway through the season.So now we can't compare the ratings of the first half of Season 8 to this half.Legion and Power were the only 2 episodes that escaped Bones and look how they did.

[Estro-gen X]

I don't think we can underestimate the zatanna factor in the ratings. The show tends to do better when DC chacters show up

[Herod]

I don't mind Bones being up against us.I am sure that in time Smallville will stand up against it.What bothered me,was that it happened midway through the season.So now we can't compare the ratings of the first half of Season 8 to this half.Legion and Power were the only 2 episodes that escaped Bones and look how they did.
Yep. This this third part of the season is facing competition that the first part and the mid season arc did not face. Hit TV shows as competition, Sports (March Madness), and post-Lana story mess. Just the fact that Hex managed to pull off a 3.8 is amazing. :cool:

[costas22]

Yep. This this third part of the season is facing competition that the first part and the mid season arc did not face. Hit TV shows as competition, Sports (March Madness), and post-Lana story mess. Just the fact that Hex managed to pull off a 3.8 is amazing. :cool:

Welcome aboard by the way.I always welcome those who agree with me:D.

[Night_Hawk90]

Yep. This this third part of the season is facing competition that the first part and the mid season arc did not face. Hit TV shows as competition, Sports (March Madness), and post-Lana story mess. Just the fact that Hex managed to pull off a 3.8 is amazing. :cool:

how is 3.8 amazing? im sorry but for the life of me i dont understand all this optimism with the ratings go up a little, the ratings are still crap.

[Herod]

how is 3.8 amazing? im sorry but for the life of me i dont understand all this optimism with the ratings go up a little, the ratings are still crap.
Dude, calm down. Suddenly optimism is a bad thing? Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: And as I mentioned, the reason why I thought the ratings were good this weekend was because they increased from last (finally, instead of declining as they have been doing since Requiem) and because an increase was possible even against the odds of added competition from hit tv shows, march madness, and the post-Lana arc disaster. So getting a 3.8 and not a 3.4 is a good steady increase. But yeah, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. You keep calling the ratings crap if you want to but I'm just looking at thing objective. Increase in ratings is a good thing and is a good reason to be optimistic.

[Night_Hawk90]

Dude, calm down. Suddenly optimism is a bad thing? Yeah, okay. :rolleyes: And as I mentioned, the reason why I thought the ratings were good this weekend was because they increased from last (finally, instead of declining as they have been doing since Requiem) and because an increase was possible even against the odds of added competition from hit tv shows, march madness, and the post-Lana arc disaster. So getting a 3.8 and not a 3.4 is a good steady increase. But yeah, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. You keep calling the ratings crap if you want to but I'm just looking at thing objective. Increase in ratings is a good thing and is a good reason to be optimistic.

Yea cause i said optimism was a bad thing:rolleyes:, all i said was i dont understand the huge uproar with such a miniscule rating.

[Timester]

Yea cause i said optimism was a bad thing:rolleyes:, all i said was i dont understand the huge uproar with such a miniscule rating.

It's on the CW.

[lanaishot565]

Lois can be a factor seeing how popular she is here in the forums.But Turbulence was a fantastic episode even without her.Eternal is appealing and i wish that we finally go back to 4mil.It's not right that the last episode that got over 4 mil was Power.Of course then there was no Bones and no NCAA.I am amazed at how contained this topic has been this week.23 hours have passed form Hex and we still have only 4 pages!

So this forum makes up Smallvilles entire viewership?:rolleyes:

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They should fall down on their hands and knees and thank Erica for savig their show, but that's just me

Oh please Erica or lois does not make or break this show

[JDS2930]

Well...looks like ratings finally went up after several weeks of decline. I am disappointed that Kara will not be back for the finale since her episode was the highest rated of the season. I guess the powers that be decided not to take that into account at all.

[costas22]

So this forum makes up Smallvilles entire viewership?:rolleyes:


Of course not.But it might be an indication.Seeing how pumped up the countdown threads for Infamous and Hex were(compared to Turbulence) i saw that a lot of people were tuning in for Lois.But it's an indication.Smallville is viewed by 4mil.This forum has a very small fraction of that.

[sunset]

I don't get it too. I mean Kara and Lois were certainly only two of the many reasons why people saw Bloodline...yet the powers that be don't seem to realize it.

I'm a huge fan of Erica's so I guess I'm biased when I expected Hex to get at least 4m. Hex was such a fun episode plus the dialogue was great (not to mention the acting)

Lois Lane was the main reason I started watching Smallville.

[costas22]

I don't get it too. I mean Kara and Lois were certainly only two of the many reasons why people saw Bloodline...yet the powers that be don't seem to realize it.

I'm a huge fan of Erica's so I guess I'm biased when I expected Hex to get at least 4m. Hex was such a fun episode plus the dialogue was great (not to mention the acting)

Lois Lane was the main reason I started watching Smallville.

While i hate saying "people watch the show because of this character or that character",i do believe that Bloodline got the highest rating of the season because of Kara.But if she became a regular again she wouldn't make a big difference to the ratings.Oliver also brought us higher ratings whenever he was guest starring.As a regular this season he hasn't made a difference.As far as Lois is concerned,this clause about her appearing in 13 out of 22 episodes has helped keep her character relatively fresh.So there is an anticipation whenever she is on.Hex was great and i think that the rating was up because AI was on instead of Bones.Next week Bones will be back but i think that MArch Madness will be over.We will see then.Welcome aboard by the way.

[davidbrenton]

how is 3.8 amazing? im sorry but for the life of me i dont understand all this optimism with the ratings go up a little, the ratings are still crap.

American Idol was the LEAD in for bones, which I heard doubled it's audience. That's a big factor lowering ratings.

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I don't mind Bones being up against us.I am sure that in time Smallville will stand up against it.What bothered me,was that it happened midway through the season.So now we can't compare the ratings of the first half of Season 8 to this half.Legion and Power were the only 2 episodes that escaped Bones and look how they did.

The killer is the pre-show Bones had on Thursday--American Idol. I wish an episode of Smallville would follow the Superbowl or something

[Timester]

The killer is the pre-show Bones had on Thursday--American Idol. I wish an episode of Smallville would follow the Superbowl or something

Now that I believe, never believed much on the Bones theory.

If Bones was so good, Smallville second half wouldn't get 300-400 thousand more than the first half of each episode.

[batfinx]

how is 3.8 amazing? im sorry but for the life of me i dont understand all this optimism with the ratings go up a little, the ratings are still crap.

1. It was an improvement on last week's ratings (3.49)

2. Hex was the 17th episode this year and was an improvement over Smallville's 17th episode last year, which got 3.62 million viewers.

3. It also got higher ratings than other post-hiatus episodes last year (Fracture, Traveler, Hero and Descent) and nearly tied others such as Persona (3.81) and Apocalypse (3.81). When a show improves on its year ago ratings, that's very good news.

You have to remember that Smallville is the CW's highest rated scripted show. So while 3.8 million is small potatoes to you, it's a big deal to the CW.

As for Bones, it's the only show up against Smallville that has shipper appeal and the couple isn't filled with angst, so that's another plus :lol: Smallville can't compete in that arena even with a legendary couple because Lois is in only half the episodes. But some Bones viewers may have checked out Smallville during Hex, so it was a smart episode to have in Bones' absence. If the NCAA is off the court during Eternal, it should do well. I like seeing the numbers tick upward.

[costas22]

Now that I believe, never believed much on the Bones theory.

If Bones was so good, Smallville second half wouldn't get 300-400 thousand more than the first half of each episode.

Maybe Smallville has a poor lead in from before and that's why the ratings get better in the second half.I would like to know if Boned drops or raises in the second half.Anyone knows?

[Jaderoyale]

how is 3.8 amazing? im sorry but for the life of me i dont understand all this optimism with the ratings go up a little, the ratings are still crap.

Because compared to the ratings from Requiem onwards, the ratings have gone up.
Hex is also higher than last years ratings at this time and on par with Persona and Apocalypse as batfinx said. Hex is only the 17th episode, Apocalypse was the 18th last season. The ratings continued to go down last season after the hiatus with the exception of Apocalypse. If the ratings are going up and continue to go up, its a good thing.

[ClubXerxes]

3.7 million viewers...with little to no buildup, other than the fansites...Not bad

I ask friends who don't watch the show, and they hardly know if it's even on. The actors don't really show up much in People or any of the other mags, so it's hard to say if many folks really know about the show (even now in Season 8). It is a guarantee that NCAA tournament will take viewers away (particularly younger viewers)...especially since many have something riding on these games other than pride ;)

Here's some help for the show handlers- they need to finally and convincingly move beyond the teen angst and do the following:

Push Lois and Clark - Epic love
Push Clark vs. Doomsday - Epic Battle between good and evil

So far, they are on the right track.

What more can you want from a show?

[kimmiss]

3.7 million viewers...with little to no buildup, other than the fansites...Not bad

I ask friends who don't watch the show, and they hardly know if it's even on. The actors don't really show up much in People or any of the other mags, so it's hard to say if many folks really know about the show (even now in Season 8).



This is so true. Erica and Justin are the only ones out doing any little promotion that I can see. Tom needs to get his BDA butt out there and sell it.

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OK, I love Tom's butt don't get me wrong . I just mean that I would LOVE to see him do interviews ( because he is charming and thoughtful) and I think most of friends would watch just to see his dreamy eyes. Shallow I know, but then they will get sucked into the storylines.

[Vegas911]

3.7 million viewers...with little to no buildup, other than the fansites...Not bad

I ask friends who don't watch the show, and they hardly know if it's even on. The actors don't really show up much in People or any of the other mags, so it's hard to say if many folks really know about the show (even now in Season 8). It is a guarantee that NCAA tournament will take viewers away (particularly younger viewers)...especially since many have something riding on these games other than pride ;)

Here's some help for the show handlers- they need to finally and convincingly move beyond the teen angst and do the following:

Push Lois and Clark - Epic love
Push Clark vs. Doomsday - Epic Battle between good and evil

So far, they are on the right track.

What more can you want from a show?

I agree completely!!! I have noticed over the past few years Tom has stepped out of the spotlight!!! I know that he is a private person, and he should not feel like he needs to sell himself out, and put all of his personal business out into the public eye but even when all of the cast did a green your world promo, he was not even involved! I think that if they promoted the show more, people would realize that it is still on the air, and it's worth watching. What show or movie do you know that draws in viewers, when they don't promote it?:confused:

[sithius]

If they moved SV to a bigger network and marketed it a whole lot more, its ratings would be so much better. Heck, if they promoted it more in general, as the above post mentions, it would improve. Even in the UK, it's not known that well. The channel here that shows it (E4) advertised Legion loads, but it seems to have stopped now. I don't know how the ratings are over here, but I doubt it matters that much compared to the US, since it is a US oriented show after all (but the UK does have 60 million people so we aren't that useless in terms of being helpful to a shows longevity!).

I mean the show came on in my flats kitchen the other day (college) and my flatmate just went 'Smallville?? That's still on? He (Clark) looks well old now!'. He thought Lois was Lana for crying out loud! He watches a fair bit of TV, so this just shows how bad the marketing is, and really it appears to be the same in America judging by these threads on it all.

Smallville is absolutely fantastic at the moment. If we had the kind of quality S8 has in S5, 6 and 7, then its current ratings would be higher I'm sure. I'm glad all of this hasn't prevented the commissioning of a season 9 though, but my dream would be for a season 10, because this show honestly deserves it. A nice double digit number to end on as well. ;)

[marcella]

No Live+7 for this episode?

[SparkleforSmallville]

They still haven't been posted yet. I'll keep checking.:)

[marcella]

They still haven't been posted yet. I'll keep checking.:)

Thanks:)

[Luiz Fernando]

I´ll be checking too :D

[SparkleforSmallville]

They have the Live+7 chart up now, but he is doing something different this week and Smallville is not on it.

So, I left a comment, asking for SV's Hex Live+7, for us here at KryptonSite.
Hopefully he will answer today. Here's what i said:

Robert, on KryptonSite, avid rating's watchers have been keeping track
of Smallville's Live and Live+7 ratings for years.
We've always relied on this Site to get those Stats. and other info.

Smallville's ranking may not have been that high, but it's important to us.

Can you tell us Smallville's Live+7 total viewers for March 26th Episode "Hex".

Thank you for all your great ratings info.


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So, I'm thinking the Live+7 will be around 4.50 mil. If the trend continues.

[SparkleforSmallville]

He answered, but i should have been more specific:/

"Robert Seidman says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Unfortunately there is way too much involved to add those shows to the table above, since there aren’t 14,000 broadcast prime-time shows, I can at least give the total DVR viewing numbers:"
Smallville: 1.239 million
Gossip Girl 1.108 million
Reaper: .646 million

OK, Here's where it gets complicated. That is total dvr viewers from Live to Live+7.
I always chart Finals to Live+7. which is usually 7 to 800,000 more viewers.

Overnights, Live, and Finals are all different numbers. Is everyone confused now?LOL
I don't know what the Live rating was, and without the actual Live+7, I can't accurately
figure what the Live+7 rating is.

Overnights= 3.74 mil.
Final= 3.80 mil.
Live rating is usually lower.
Any suggestions?

[bartez]

overnights + dvr = L7
final means live & same day

to get L7 you must take overnights (Live) and dvr viewers

hex get 3,74 + 1,24 = 4,98 mln :D it's great :D

[SparkleforSmallville]

I wish it were that simple, but if you look at the numbers they are all different than the Finals.
They are saying 1,24 mil dvr viewers from the Live rating, which we don't know. You can't just add this rating to the Final, it's not accurate.

Does anyone care about accuracy, cause I'm losing interest. Info overload! :eek:

[RaniaLovesClois]

They should fall down on their hands and knees and thank Erica for saving their show, but that's just me

I think they should!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[SparkleforSmallville]

One last thing, here are some totals for all dvr viewers per episode to compare:
Hex 1,239,000. ~ Turbulence 1,212,000. ~ Infamous 1,025 ~ Requiem 1,126 ~ Power 1,208

Bulletproof 1,064 ~ Bloodline 1.167 ~ Identity 1,025 ~ Prey 1,034

It flucuates, but it's always over a million more viewers. From Finals that translates
into about 750,000 more viewers.

[marcella]

These numbers are so confusing:\

[SparkleforSmallville]

These numbers are so confusing:\

I know! I just want to know the Live+7 rating for Hex. Maybe later I'll ask
Robert again.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/17/more-dvr-analysis-than-you-want-why-dvr-wont-save-dollhouse-and-tscc/16904#more-16904

Oh good, Bartez has asked too.!

Yay! Robert came thru for us! "BTW, Live+7 for the Smallville episode the week of 3/23-3/29 was: 4.493 million."

[bartez]

i hope that robert will remember about smallville next time :D

[SparkleforSmallville]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil. & (No Live+7 available, ever!)

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil. & Live+7= 4.54 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil. & Live+7= 4.94 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil. & Live+7= 4.60 mil.

#15 Infamous ~ *3.57 mil. & Live+7= 4.22 mil.

#16 Turbulence ~ *3.49 mil. & Live+7= 4.09 mil.

#17 Hex ~ *3.80 mil. & Live+7= 4.49 mil.

#18 Eternal ~ *3.85 mil.


Yay! My Friday is complete!

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i hope that robert will remember about smallville next time :D

I read his complete article, and he did say that he was only doing the Charts different this week. After all the confusion, I think he will resume the better Chart next week. :) That was really cool, that he answered our question. He didn't do that for everyone!

[marcella]

Finally the numbers:D

Thanks for your hard work, Sparkle:)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Finally the numbers:D

Thanks for your hard work, Sparkle:)

Aww, thanks! I was about to give up. :lol: