View Full Version : Does Hiro have his powers back permantly?
targis
03-23-2009, 08:10 PM
I'm not sure if Hiro has his powers back Permanently or just while he is around baby Matt Parkman.
When baby Matt left the room where he had charged his toys they turned off so the same thing might happen to Hiro.
Skaterpen357
03-23-2009, 08:57 PM
I think a nice cop out would be to say that since the human brain is so much more complex than a TV, or a toy, then Hiro's brain was able to retain the ability to use its inherent power without baby Matt's help...
Just needed baby Matt for his brain to "remember" how to use his power, I think. Or at least, that's what I'll tell myself when they inevitably never bring this up again. :D
LeirbaG
03-23-2009, 09:10 PM
i think he got his power back permanently, but not all of his power. Maybe baby matt just turned on a bit of his power which is stoping time. He couldn't teleport anymore.
the highlander
03-23-2009, 09:14 PM
I hope baby matt touches him again so he gets the rest of his powers.
infini
03-23-2009, 09:27 PM
i think he does.. now the "go back and change the past" theme is gone from the show... hero can only stop time now
STFanatic
03-23-2009, 09:30 PM
I don't want the time shifting power back, teleporting & freeze frame powers are enough.
Teleporting is a great money saving tool for a TV series, that is why Roddenberry used it in Star Trek, no extra cost of travel arrangements.
the highlander
03-23-2009, 09:32 PM
I want hiro to have all his powers back... even time travel... I want him to be afraid to use it... I remember him being very careful to where in time he was going to go back to stop the boom...
Save the cheerleader??? I want him to have the ability and be REALLY afraid of the consequences.
Well this could be an out for the writers because Peter lost the power to teleport/time travel and now Hiro can't teleport/time travel so they might be trying to get out of messing with time by taking out the only way they can mess with time?
Or they could be reintroducing the teleport after a while but opting out of time travel.
lAfrik
03-23-2009, 09:34 PM
I want hiro to have all his powers back... even time travel... I want him to be afraid to use it... I remember him being very careful to where in time he was going to go back to stop the boom...
Save the cheerleader??? I want him to have the ability and be REALLY afraid of the consequences.
Me too. I want him to have them all back but with him not wanting to use time travel in case something happens.
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 09:36 PM
Targis,
To answer your question, only time will tell.
But if I had to guess, I'd say only while he's around the baby.
targis
03-23-2009, 09:41 PM
Time freeze is enough for Hiro and the others to stop Danko. All Hiro has to do is freeze time so Peter and the other hereos could go in and free the prisoners and take all of danko's soldjiers weapons and equipment.
STFanatic
03-23-2009, 09:47 PM
And give Danko one heck of a wedgie on the way out :lol:
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 09:49 PM
well at least they won't be caught...or should i say they shouldn't get caught but then again this is the same person that got his powers stolen from him when he saw the guy coming AFTER he had been mind fried by the same guy only days b4:(
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 09:50 PM
Time freeze is enough for Hiro and the others to stop Danko. All Hiro has to do is freeze time so Peter and the other hereos could go in and free the prisoners and take all of danko's soldjiers weapons and equipment.
Actually, all he'd have to do is stop time and chop Danko's head off like he tried to do with Adam Monroe in volume two. I for one would love to use the hunter's head for a bowling ball...
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well at least they won't be caught...or should i say they shouldn't get caught but then again this is the same person that got his powers stolen from him when he saw the guy coming AFTER he had been mind fried by the same guy only days b4:(
He did try to stop time but Arthur made a surprise move by pulling Hiro towards him just as Hiro was beginning to concentrate.
And give Danko one heck of a wedgie on the way out :lol:
I think they should be creative and just freeze him and drop him off somewhere special :lol:
Vergon6
03-23-2009, 09:52 PM
The time stopping and eventual teleportation is enough. If he can time travel, it becomes too much of a deus ex machina.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 09:53 PM
Actually, all he'd have to do is stop time and chop Danko's head off like he tried to do with Adam Monroe in volume two. I for one would love to use the hunter's head for a bowling ball...
You are absolutely twisted...and i mean that in a good christian way:P
OOOH hey lets go bowling. I just got Smallville's Lex Luthor burnt up body double head replica that i have been dying to try out:p
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 09:58 PM
You are absolutely twisted...and i mean that in a good christian way:P
OOOH hey lets go bowling. I just got Smallville's Lex Luthor burnt up body double head replica that i have been dying to try out:p
Funny you should say that because I actually AM a Christian. Of course, I'm assuming that "hate the sin but love the sinner" doesn't apply to fictional characters.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 10:01 PM
Funny you should say that because I actually AM a Christian. Of course, I'm assuming that "hate the sin but love the sinner" doesn't apply to fictional characters.
no i would suppose not...but then again we all are just fictional characters. Nobody is who they say they are...that's why they say it. Everyone is a character in their own story (No I'm not high:p)
Rival X The Great
03-23-2009, 10:03 PM
so do you guys think the baby is going to give peter his powers back? I hope so.
targis
03-23-2009, 10:06 PM
no i would suppose not...but then again we all are just fictional characters. Nobody is who they say they are...that's why they say it. Everyone is a character in their own story (No I'm not high:p)
People are not fictional characters.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 10:08 PM
so do you guys think the baby is going to give peter his powers back? I hope so.
i think reconnecting with his mom will help with his empathy. he is rebuilding his power one relationship at a time. maybe he will dream the future without taking his mom's ability (by touch i mean)
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 10:11 PM
(No I'm not high:p)
Took the question right out of my mouth before I could ask;)
the highlander
03-23-2009, 10:13 PM
no i would suppose not...but then again we all are just fictional characters. Nobody is who they say they are...that's why they say it. Everyone is a character in their own story (No I'm not high:p)
But that is so true.... We each have a Persona.
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 10:14 PM
so do you guys think the baby is going to give peter his powers back? I hope so.
Peter? Or do you mean Hiro? First the baby would have to come in contact with Peter, while Hiro is off looking for Matt senior.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 10:17 PM
But that is so true.... We each have a Persona.
that's all I'm saying. Nobody shows you who they really are. we all keep a part of ourselves from others....its the human way
Rival X The Great
03-23-2009, 10:18 PM
either way i hope peter and hiro get all their powers back. The showdown with Sylar is going to be coming soon.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 10:19 PM
In behind the eclipse it says that peter and sylar make nice in the finale. maybe peter is gravely hurt and sylar gives him some of his blood so he can heal...its possible:)Highlight for spoilers
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 10:23 PM
I would prefer that no one would post spoilers in these forums. I don't like them and I'm sure there are many others who don't either.
oldblackmagick
03-23-2009, 10:30 PM
I would prefer that no one would post spoilers in these forums. I don't like them and I'm sure there are many others who don't either.
sorry...i got excited cause i was just reading through it but to be honest all of what i said is spec...not true spoilage:) sorry ne ways tho
CompanyMan
03-23-2009, 10:37 PM
sorry...i got excited cause i was just reading through it but to be honest all of what i said is spec...not true spoilage:) sorry ne ways tho
We all make mistakes. No problem. :)
doomvskal86
03-24-2009, 12:11 AM
I think that he does have is abilities only by having Matt Parkman's son with him or then again they could be activated for good
CompanyMan
03-24-2009, 01:20 AM
I think that he does have is abilities only by having Matt Parkman's son with him or then again they could be activated for good
Now that's what I call hedging your bets.
hellnback
03-24-2009, 02:16 AM
i just think the new writing staff has decided to take away time traveling for hiro. so they're probably just going to allow him to freeze time and possibly teleport at some point. but time traveling will probably end up going away forever. time traveling stories can ruin storylines.
weemanwise
03-24-2009, 02:54 AM
i just think the new writing staff has decided to take away time traveling for hiro. so they're probably just going to allow him to freeze time and possibly teleport at some point. but time traveling will probably end up going away forever. time traveling stories can ruin storylines.
I agree it can ruin storylines, but they will probably eventually give that power back to Hiro.
targis
03-24-2009, 07:46 AM
Hiro pushed Ando for 12 miles in a wheel barrel. I would have just got Janice's car and put Ando and Janice in it and driven away.
heroesfan
03-24-2009, 10:39 AM
I would like to see Hiro push that wheel barrel even just 1 mile with ando in it. His arms would have fallen off.
Batman66
03-24-2009, 10:42 AM
Hiro pushed Ando for 12 miles in a wheel barrel. I would have just got Janice's car and put Ando and Janice in it and driven away.
Would a car work? Any car in the road at the time would no longer move.
LOONEY
03-24-2009, 10:45 AM
So Pete can CHOOSE what power he wants to take if any? I mean as soon as he grabbed his mother he shouldn't have been able to fly anymore right?
What if Ando holds the Baby and touches somebody else. Then they would get their super power back?
BlackLotus1786
03-24-2009, 11:49 AM
Peter needs skin contact in order to absorb powers now. He only touched his mothers clothing.
As for Hiro, I really hope they give him some of his powers back permanently. I can tolerate time travel, provided it's done well (like having Hiro be afraid to use it now, as suggested by an earlier post). One way they could work the permanent return of Hiro's powers is by saying Baby Matt jump started the part of Hiro's brain that Arthur Petrelli shut off in the previous volume. Now that it's up and running again (at least partially), the rest of Hiro's brain can take over for Baby Matt and keep it going.
topo21
03-24-2009, 02:24 PM
If Ando supercharges the baby, will Hiro get his powers back.
CompanyMan
03-24-2009, 02:32 PM
If Ando supercharges the baby, will Hiro get his powers back.
Remember the last volume with Matt and Daphne? If Ando superchared the baby, probably all that would happen is that every toy and machine within a 10 block area would start functioning. But that's about it.
company man has all the answers but im pretty sure peter gets his power back and hiro
targis
03-24-2009, 10:59 PM
Peter needs skin contact in order to absorb powers now. He only touched his mothers clothing.
As for Hiro, I really hope they give him some of his powers back permanently. I can tolerate time travel, provided it's done well (like having Hiro be afraid to use it now, as suggested by an earlier post). One way they could work the permanent return of Hiro's powers is by saying Baby Matt jump started the part of Hiro's brain that Arthur Petrelli shut off in the previous volume. Now that it's up and running again (at least partially), the rest of Hiro's brain can take over for Baby Matt and keep it going.
Peter can absorb through clothing now.
CompanyMan
03-25-2009, 10:31 AM
company man has all the answers but im pretty sure peter gets his power back and hiro
I may have a lot of opinions, but not all the answers. And I do admit when I'm wrong.
Skaterpen357
03-25-2009, 05:19 PM
Honestly, I don't mind the depowering. Yeah, people will complain Peter and Hiro were never overpowered, but I think carrying their powers on at full this long would be pushing it. I for one like how they're treating Peter's power this time around...
As for Hiro, I'm pretty okay with no time travel. Stopping time, cool, teleportation, I think so. But I want to see Hiro slowing down time again...if stopping time is just slowing it down a lot, why not? :p
CompanyMan
03-25-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm not sure if Hiro has his powers back Permanently or just while he is around baby Matt Parkman.
When baby Matt left the room where he had charged his toys they turned off so the same thing might happen to Hiro.
targis,
You might want to read the latest graphic novel.
the highlander
03-25-2009, 10:16 PM
Aren't you the company man? you should know the files... so .. spill them!
CompanyMan
03-25-2009, 10:31 PM
Sorry, but that goes against Company Policy, unless you have proper authorization to gain access to the files. Read the GN that is in public display on the NBC Heroes website.
targis
03-26-2009, 05:22 AM
targis,
You might want to read the latest graphic novel.
Thanks
I will check it out later today sometime
targis
03-26-2009, 09:37 AM
ok I read it but it may just be me but I didn't get it. It seemed like Hiro's power has now stoped working. Also how is matt jr. running around walmart and driving a forklift by himself. There is no way the baby from the show could do that. and does anybody know what the deal was about the Nissan Cube at the end was about. Were they saying that the baby made that happen or something?
I put in spoiler tags because it is about the graphic novel for last weeks episode and I'm not sure if it is considered a spoiler or not so just to be safe I added them.
CompanyMan
03-26-2009, 09:54 AM
I have also used spoiler tags to talk about the graphic novel.
Actually, Hiro did stop time while he was not in contact with the baby. That is what I was trying to get at. The kid was in front of a sales associate, Hiro stopped time, and in the next panel the associate is wondering where the kid went. And then there is the panel towards the end when Ando is asking Hiro about the idea of not using their powers, and Hiro responds that no one notices when he stops time.
targis
03-26-2009, 11:54 AM
I looked at it again and saw what you were talking about. I wasn't paying enough time looking at the pictures the first time.
I taught that Hiro lost his powers, when Peter's dad took them from him.
CompanyMan
03-26-2009, 12:08 PM
He gained back the ability to stop time in the last episode when Matt's baby touched him just before he and Ando were about to be taken captive.
Kryptonian250
03-26-2009, 04:17 PM
Yep, he has his powers back for good, well, a portion of it at least.
targis
03-28-2009, 05:07 AM
Remember the last volume with Matt and Daphne? If Ando superchared the baby, probably all that would happen is that every toy and machine within a 10 block area would start functioning. But that's about it.
Yeah, but now that Hiro can slow down time if Ando charged Hiro while he was doing it Hiro's power should work like it used to.
CompanyMan
03-28-2009, 07:34 AM
Well, if you think about it, Hiro touched Ando and tried to teleport away from danger. It didn't work. It appears that Ando's power is passive (for lack of a better term). When Matt and Daphne touched Ando their powers were amplified without Ando making a concious choice to call up his power.
targis
03-28-2009, 07:37 AM
Well, if you think about it, Hiro touched Ando and tried to teleport away from danger. It didn't work. It appears that Ando's power is passive (for lack of a better term). When Matt and Daphne touched Ando their powers were amplified without Ando making a concious choice to call up his power.
But Ando was frozen in time when Hiro touched him to teleport so that could be why it didn't charge him.
I don't see why it would charge Daphne and Matt but not Hiro.
CompanyMan
03-28-2009, 11:36 AM
But Ando was frozen in time when Hiro touched him to teleport so that could be why it didn't charge him.
I don't see why it would charge Daphne and Matt but not Hiro.
That could be true.
It probably would charge Hiro, but I doubt it would give or restore any additional powers. It seems to me that Ando has a super-charger, not a "turn-on/turn off" type of power like the baby has. Now that I think of it, I wonder if the baby's power will evolve from "touch and go" to "clap-on, clap-off."
I would be all in favor of Hiro having all his powers back. He is one of my favorite characters, after all. I just don't see it happening in this volume, at least. It's a well-known fact that the writers scaled back his powers for whatever reason (yeah, I know what they are) and are unlikely to restore Hiro back to his former glory this season.
targis
03-28-2009, 12:13 PM
That could be true.
It probably would charge Hiro, but I doubt it would give or restore any additional powers. It seems to me that Ando has a super-charger, not a "turn-on/turn off" type of power like the baby has. Now that I think of it, I wonder if the baby's power will evolve from "touch and go" to "clap-on, clap-off."
I would be all in favor of Hiro having all his powers back. He is one of my favorite characters, after all. I just don't see it happening in this volume, at least. It's a well-known fact that the writers scaled back his powers for whatever reason (yeah, I know what they are) and are unlikely to restore Hiro back to his former glory this season.
Yeah, I didn't mean Ando would turn all his powers back on. They said on the show that Hiro dosen't stop time totally he just slows it way down so it apears to have stoped.
So if Hiro trys to slow down time with Ando charging him would time spin backwards instead of just slowing down?
They could leave Hiro's power to slow down time the way it is now and the only way for him to time travel and teleport would be done with Ando's help.
CompanyMan
03-28-2009, 05:24 PM
So if Hiro trys to slow down time with Ando charging him would time spin backwards instead of just slowing down?
They could leave Hiro's power to slow down time the way it is now and the only way for him to time travel and teleport would be done with Ando's help.
Well, that would be interesting to see. Since Ando's ability is passive, it would be interesting to see what happens when Hiro stops time while in physical contact with him. If Hiro gets super-charged when stopping time, what would the result be? It boggles my mind, to be honest with you. I can't seem to wrap my brain around the concept of super-charging a time stopping ability.
Keep in mind that the ability to manipulate time (freeze/unfreeze, forward/backward) and teleportation (moving from one place to another) are two different things.
Maybe someone forgot to tell Bryan Fuller about Hiro only being able to slow down time.
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