Will Tracy die in this episode?

[rick.itch]

i dont know if this is a rumor, but i heard that my fav character will die in this episode,,,,



way i think this is becasuse if you look at all the nbc press reles about a episode, tracy isen't in any of thoes episode and i hope she dont die (cries)

[Lexgirl33]

Nope shes not dying

[rick.itch]

i know the writters said that her storyline will move to dc but in all the press of all the new episode, she isen't in it so??? i know bryan said she's not going anywhere so im glad :)

[Ginx]

At least she had dramatic showdown. More than that character deserved imo.

[Lexgirl33]

Yeah I actually enjoyed it lol But shes not dead

[haydenclaireheroes]

i dont know if this is a rumor, but i heard that my fav character will die in this episode,,,,



way i think this is becasuse if you look at all the nbc press reles about a episode, tracy isen't in any of thoes episode and i hope she dont die (cries)
she blinked but i have a feeling we will see barbra now.

[Level5]

Her eye moved at the end, so she's not dead. But just let me say that, that was kinda stupid.

[Ragius]

She is now like Iceman from X-Men, a Level 5 Mutant. :D Meaning, she has almost limitless power if the writers enable that (which they won't).

[targis]

How is she going to put herself back together?

[lAfrik]

With what we know of her power it's kind of impossible for het to just restructure herself except if someone play puzzle with her.

[CompanyMan]

I find the whole thing rather odd. Most of the characters are not affected by their powers like Tracy was. Ted burned up the Bennetts house but did not get the least bit charred. Peter exploded in the sky above New York but did not get reduced to smithereens. Claire's mom (forgot her name) burned down a house but did not get injured. So how did Tracy freeze herself?

[Skaterpen357]

With what we know of her power it's kind of impossible for het to just restructure herself except if someone play puzzle with her. On the other hand, no one knew she was capable of turning herself to ice, as what seemed to be the implication. Who knows; maybe she can restructure herself.

(I never really liked Tracy [she killed the coolest villain ever (Knox)], but her interaction with Micah is pretty cool. I'm also a sucker for superpowered people owning "normal" "expendable" people, so I'm kind of rooting for her...

[targis]

I find the whole thing rather odd. Most of the characters are not affected by their powers like Tracy was. Ted burned up the Bennetts house but did not get the least bit charred. Peter exploded in the sky above New York but did not get reduced to smithereens. Claire's mom (forgot her name) burned down a house but did not get injured. So how did Tracy freeze herself?
Could Claire's mom be running around somewhere since Sylar and Doyle somehow made it out of Primatech alive she could have also?

[oldblackmagick]

I think if they bring in Barbara it should be as a GOOD GUY. No more dark stories for Ali where she is a slut/betraying/killer. She should get to have powers...do good and still be interesting IMO

[lAfrik]

I think if they bring in Barbara it should be as a GOOD GUY. No more dark stories for Ali where she is a slut/betraying/killer. She should get to have powers...do good and still be interesting IMO

Good girl? :)

[haydenclaireheroes]

i just miss niki i love ali so thank god tracey is "dead" now we might have barbra be more like niki . but i did see a little resemblese with tracey and niki besides that they are identical appearence. SHe cares for rebel or should i say micah.

[STFanatic]

Maybe Barbra will have all the powers combined ;)

[infini]

tracy is not dead, they said there was going to be one real death and one fake one... tracy's eye moved so shes not dead

[lAfrik]

Maybe the fake one is Daphne... And Ali returns as another clone. So no ones really gone.

[lanaishot565]

Maybe the fake one is Daphne... And Ali returns as another clone. So no ones really gone.

It makes no sense to fake Daphene's death again. Plus its been confirmed Daphene is dead and the actress is gone.

tracy blinked shes still alive.

[CompanyMan]

Could Claire's mom be running around somewhere since Sylar and Doyle somehow made it out of Primatech alive she could have also?

Personally, yeah I think so. She burned down the house in Texas and lived to talk about it, so I think she survived the burning Primatech building.

[Superman's Princess]

i just miss niki
I really miss Niki too. I really liked her. I liked Tracy too.

[weemanwise]

I never really did like tracy that much but her cold snap at the end of the episode was awesome.

[doomvskal86]

Yeah her eye did blink so tracy will probably stay alive

[heroesfan]

She purposely froze herself to fake her own death. She knew bennet and danko would come in and shoot her. Me thinks she will be back.

[CompanyMan]

She purposely froze herself to fake her own death. She knew bennet and danko would come in and shoot her. Me thinks she will be back.

It appeared to me that she was going to go along with Noah's plan to capture Rebel in exchange for her own freedom until she found out that Rebel is her nephew Micah. I think she had a change of heart, as well as plans, and sacrificed herself for Micah.

[heroesfan]

possibly, but still hard for me to believe that she would go from only caring about herself to dying for someone else, even her own nephew. but i guess that writers are keeping us on our toes.

[CompanyMan]

Well, I think when Micah told her that she was just a typical polititian, it cut to her heart. After all, Michah IS family...

[topo21]

Nope she is dead. A tear fell as she winked. It felt like she said "Farewell, don't worry about me. I saved Rebel."

2 Nikis down, one to go.

[rick.itch]

topo21 i said the same that she cried but was that her tear or HRG

[CompanyMan]

She didn't wink. The right eye closed and a tear ran down. The eye remained closed as the scene ended.

[lanaishot565]

She didn't wink. The right eye closed and a tear ran down. The eye remained closed as the scene ended.

No She blinked closed her eye tear ran down then opened her eye. tracy is alive. Read spoilers.

[CompanyMan]

No She blinked closed her eye tear ran down then opened her eye. tracy is alive. Read spoilers.

I don"t like spoilers, hate 'em with a passion. I would rather watch and be entertained as the show moves along.

[STFanatic]

I re-watched that scene several times and her eye closed & reopened then a tear fell.

I think it may mark a change in her priorities and because she saved Micah.

[CompanyMan]

I re-watched that scene several times and her eye closed & reopened then a tear fell.

I think it may mark a change in her priorities and because she saved Micah.

I only re-watched the scene once but did my best to pay attention. I could swear the eye remained closed. Now I'll have to re-re-watch it.

I was wrong about Micah not being Rebel and will undoubtedly be wrong again sometime but was hoping it wouldn't be so soon...

[STFanatic]

I was trying to make a clip of that but my program is being stubborn :mad:

[kryptonhero25]

No She blinked closed her eye tear ran down then opened her eye. tracy is alive. Read spoilers.

wait where does it say in the spoilers that she's alive? i checked and couldnt find anything

[CompanyMan]

wait where does it say in the spoilers that she's alive? i checked and couldnt find anything

Check out this thread: http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=246

[STFanatic]

Thank you for not posting the spoiler in this thread ;)

[targis]

My first impression when I watched the episode was that she winked but thinking about it I do remember seeing a tear also.

They could have been showing that she was still concious and alive even after Danko shot her and she broke apart into like a thousand pieces.

[targis]

They said their will be one real death and two fake deaths. In Beeman's Blog it was stated that Daphne is really dead so the real death is already taken.Tracy is a fake death and someone else will be also. I don't know who it will be but if someone else dies it must be the other fake death

I made a mistake because there is only one fake out and two real deaths so she still could be really dead


Finally post #500

[CompanyMan]

I re-watched that scene several times and her eye closed & reopened then a tear fell.

I think it may mark a change in her priorities and because she saved Micah.

After re-re-watching the scene, she did re-open the eye. I'm still not so sure it was a wink. It might have been more of a blink. I think the tear is a stronger clue than the wink/blink though. (No, I have not read any spoilers and don't know what's going to happen.)

[Jigga]

It's confirmed by the man, Bryan Fuller, that Tracy isn't dead. In fact, this moves Tracy into a higher position next season.

[InactiveUserID]

It's no, because people who wink are universally loved and not even the writers can kill her off now that she's in her post-wink era.

[closetclana]

I for one hope that Tracy is not dead. Though I thought the whole ice freezing thing was a cool special effect. (totally saw the special effect coming when tracy stood out in the middle like it was some sort of show down.) I don't usually read hero's spoilers so I didn't know exactly what was going to happen.

I figure if she isn't dead its because she has turned into one of those water people like that evil reporter chick on Smallville.

[Toonami]

But Tracy did die at the end of the episode. She sacrifice herself to save micha from the government. That may not have been rebel's mother. But she did love him all the same.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I hope she's dead... not because i hate her, but because anything they do after her body was shattered into pieces, is going to be a bit of a stretch... and i've done enough stretching with heroes already

[Level5]

After thinking about it--she better not be alive, that would be stupid! She completely froze and fell into a thousand pieces. How would she survive that? And don't say her power somehow saved her; if her power was going to save her, then she wouldn't have froze.

[infini]

After thinking about it--she better not be alive, that would be stupid! She completely froze and fell into a thousand pieces. How would she survive that? And don't say her power somehow saved her; if her power was going to save her, then she wouldn't have froze.
maybe thats her new form... she could be like iceman from xmen where she is completely frozen

[Novak Fan]

But why her arm didn't froze and broke when she killed the reporter i.e.? Last scene bothers me because if she's alive then that doesn't make sense. I think that Daniel have a point.

----- Added 50 Seconds later -----

I really thought that she'd be like Meredith, be able to manipulate ice without getting hurt in the process.

[Leopheonix]

She can't be hurt by her own power, think about it she was locked in that room for a while under that heater, not being able to use her ability, she even said to noah about her cold snap.

Maybe because her ability was being prevented, it was building up over time, so when the next time she released, 'boom' power overload and she turns into and ice statue (possible to regenerate the amount of power she had just used, like chloe in smallville when she brings someone back from the dead)

Tracey is not dead, shes the most interesting character (Nikki used to be) besides Elle on the dam show and if they do kill her off then heroes can kiss it goodbye.

Final statement, Tracey is not dead, she'll regenerate, it's 100% possible with her ability. Plus everytime she killed someone their was frozen blood when they shattered, when she was shattered nothing but white ice, thus like it just being a carbon copy, or ice copy rather.

[targis]

She can't be hurt by her own power, think about it she was locked in that room for a while under that heater, not being able to use her ability, she even said to noah about her cold snap.

Maybe because her ability was being prevented, it was building up over time, so when the next time she released, 'boom' power overload and she turns into and ice statue (possible to regenerate the amount of power she had just used, like chloe in smallville when she brings someone back from the dead)

Tracey is not dead, shes the most interesting character (Nikki used to be) besides Elle on the dam show and if they do kill her off then heroes can kiss it goodbye.

Final statement, Tracey is not dead, she'll regenerate, it's 100% possible with her ability. Plus everytime she killed someone their was frozen blood when they shattered, when she was shattered nothing but white ice, thus like it just being a carbon copy, or ice copy rather.

Tracy should really be dead and it is not possible for her to regenerate at all. Healing isn't her power and besides it wasn't her power that killed her. What killed her was Danko shooting her and it dosen't matter if she can freeze or not if she gets shot like that she should be dead.


It's confirmed by the man, Bryan Fuller, that Tracy isn't dead. In fact, this moves Tracy into a higher position next season.

Jigga where did you see that?

Jigga Bryan Fuller said that. It's not going to make sense if she is the fake out. They can't even say she lived by being imune to her own power because that is not what killed her. Like I said above being shot was what killed her.

[Jigga]

It's quite possible that she survived ala Iceman from X-Men can turn his whole body into ice get shattered, reform his body and survive. I'm not sure how this doesn't make sense, but then again we are talking about a fictitious world.

I would understand the getting shot argument if it wasn't for the fact that they showed her completely iced up and shattering. If she hadn't been ice and was shot then the bullet would lodge and kill her.

It was said by Fuller himself during a recap of the episode where he was sitting next to Masi Oka on NBC. On top of that, Fuller and Larter herself have stated multiple times that when it was rumored that Larter might be leaving the show, that she will be back as Tracy in season 4 with a much bigger role.

[targis]

It's quite possible that she survived ala Iceman from X-Men is turn his whole body into ice get shattered, reform his body and survive. I'm not sure how this doesn't make sense, but then again we are talking about a fictitious world.

I would understand the getting shot argument if it wasn't for the fact that they showed her completely iced up and shattering. If she hadn't been ice and was shot then the bullet would lodge and kill her.

The bullet dosen't have to lodge to kill someone. If someone gets shot and the bullet goes through them the damage is already done whether the bullet stays in them or not.

When she shattered all her interal organs were broken up and without a healing power I just don't see how she could have surived it.

[Novak Fan]

Yeah, I was thinking that if she can regenerate herself , then it'd be a different power all over again and not the ice controlling thing. :\
I mean, she'll be controlling water, not ice right?

[Jigga]

The bullet dosen't have to lodge to kill someone. If someone gets shot and the bullet goes through them the damage is already done whether the bullet stays in them or not.

When she shattered all her interal organs were broken up and without a healing power I just don't see how she could have surived it.

Her internal organs are ice at that point. She can control and manipulate ice and if she's like Iceman she can form ice from the moisture in the air. She can reform her body.

[targis]

It was said by Fuller himself during a recap of the episode where he was sitting next to Masi Oka on NBC. On top of that, Fuller and Larter herself have stated multiple times that when it was rumored that Larter might be leaving the show, that she will be back as Tracy in season 4 with a much bigger role. Here: http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2009/03/episode-3x20-commentary-reveals.html

Ok so she lives then. It still is seems too far fetched for me though and I usually accept very blindly on how powers work but being able to freeze stuff shouldn't make someone be able to survive being shot and breaking into pieces. Just a little to unbelievable for me!!!!!!

Maybe if she hadn't been shattered all over the parking garage floor and thawed out in one piece it would have made a little more sense.

But when she melts and goes into the drain wouldn't the water get mixed with the rest of the water flowing in the pipe. How would she keep the water seperated from water that isn't a part of her.

It would have been better if they would have just brought in Barbara.

[targis]

Her internal organs are ice at that point. She can control and manipulate ice and if she's like Iceman she can form ice from the moisture in the air. She can reform her body.

Her organs weren't ice they were just frozen. You freeze someones heart, liver, or kidney it dosent turn to ice it is still what was originaly just frozen and while it is frozen you shot it when it thaws out it will still have a hole in it.

[CompanyMan]

Noah told Tracy that if she didn't give them Rebel that there would be "one big fat cut to black." She knew that Noah wasn't bluffing. She knew, by letting Micah escape, she was as good as dead. So it wouldn't surprise me that she made the ultimate sacrifice and traded her life for Micah's. I think that's what the tear was about. Sacrificing one's life for another is a rather emotional thing to do.

Also, if she was going to survive, there would be no need for a tear. Just a wink would do.

[Jigga]

Her organs weren't ice they were just frozen. You freeze someones heart, liver, or kidney it dosent turn to ice it is still what was originaly just frozen and while it is frozen you shot it when it thaws out it will still have a hole in it.

It's pretty clear when you watch that her entire body was actually ice when she gets shot, which is why she ends up crumbling to the ground. When she turns to ice she becomes pretty transparent. I think the problem is that you're trying to apply real logic to something that is strictly fictitious in nature. Like I've said, the power that the creators have decided to give to her is the ability to manipulate ice. Like Iceman, the ability to manipulate ice means the ability to turn your entire body into ice and with that power the ability to reform by melting pieces together then refreezing.

As for how she can separate parts of the flowing water from her, she doesn't have to, it's part of the ability. Either she can form herself from any sort of water source then change back or her molecules are automatically attracted to each other, though I'm sure they'll make it a struggle for her.

BTW, yes, this would make her arguably one of the strongest "heroes" with powers. If she can control her powers to the point of being able to manipulate ice indirectly, she could freeze a person from the inside out from a distance and kill them instantaneously.

[CompanyMan]

Tracy's ability is to be able to freeze things, not to manipulate ice.

[Jigga]

Tracy's ability is to be able to freeze things, not to manipulate ice.

She can do both. Again, I'm not sure where you're getting at by simply limiting her powers. She basically just started to use her powers and we've only seen one instance of what her power can do when she goes all out. I can count on one hand the amount of time we've seen her use her powers at this point, compared to say Sylar/Peter/Parkman/Nathan who almost every episode featuring them ends up using their ability, to really say what she can do and how far she can go with her powers. Freezing is definitely one of the abilities, I'm pretty sure the ability to manipulate ice or at least form ice near her. If she can freeze things, it's pretty easy for her to freeze the water molecules that are floating in the air, which is literally everywhere.

I can actually confirm it myself about the fate of Tracy. Everyone should check out the cast commentary that can be found on the NBC website for this specific episode. There are some pretty deep revelations aside from Tracy in the episode that I hadn't even realized until Fuller and Masi Oka pointed it out.

[CompanyMan]

And I'm not sure where you're getting at by over-stating her powers. While most of the people with powers on Heroes have shown progression of use but usually it is gradually done over time. The powers that the Heroes folks have are way different from, say, Iceman, Superman, Spiderman, etc. In the Heroes "universe" the powers come from evolution (yes, even the synthetic ones) not from mutation, or the yellow sun (Superman comes to mind), etc.

And she's been using her powers for almost a year now. She ought to have an idea of how powerful she can be.

And I don't read spoilers.

[SubZero76]

Man I loved Tracy before but after this episode;Woah is all I can say.Did anyone else get the Niki reference?The way she said Micah right before she went to lay down her life,was the exactly the same as when Niki told Micah to call 911 right before she layed down her life for Monica.Im loving Tracy as the BA,yet good type of character.She's not afraid to kill but for the right reasons.

[Novak Fan]

Yeah, I think they made that on purpose since they are triplets. I love Tracy's character too :) In fact I wish they could give Ali Larter a character that could stay at the show for longer, so much potential with them (Nikki/Jessica was really awesome imo) I guess that we still have Barbara. If Tracy is really dead that's it.

[CompanyMan]

I didn't quite fully notice it. I knew there was a familiarity in the way she called after him, but was too busy cringing at the time. She shouted his name loud enough that I was concerned the agents would hear her. I didn't know that Danko and Bennett were there but when I saw them I figured they had to have heard Tracy shout out Micah's name.