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Alpha Coyote
03-20-2009, 08:12 AM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

wafflles87
03-20-2009, 08:14 AM
I he was right in everything he said, but his wording could have been a bit more gentle.

That being said, I don't blame him one bit. Sometimes a person reaches the limit of crap they can take, and they just burst.

Night_Hawk90
03-20-2009, 08:19 AM
i thought it was freaking hilarious/awesome, jimmy earned my respect

SV'S_immortal_hero
03-20-2009, 08:20 AM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

the only problem he has is that he married a woman who doesnt know the rules of baseball which apply here

chloe has been told 3 times davis maybe a killer

davis told her thats 1 strike

clark told her thats 2 strikes

now jimmy told her thats 3 strikes, shes out!

Alpha Coyote
03-20-2009, 08:21 AM
Granted you both make good pointsbut it is like waffles87 said he could have put it a little more gentle to her. Crap now she is going to go for Davis/Doomsday. Ya baby

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the only problem he has is that he married a woman who doesnt know the rules of baseball which apply here

chloe has been told 3 times davis maybe a killer

davis told her thats 1 strike

clark told her thats 2 strikes

now jimmy told her thats 3 strikes, shes out!

I didin't think of it like that. That is a great way to put it. True she warrned three time about Davis.

Bacio83
03-20-2009, 08:33 AM
I think when your wife tazers you over a killer, hugs him for five minutes outside of your hospital room after you try to convince her the guy's a killer..... that can take a toll on a guy.

I love Chloe but she's in the fault at this point.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 08:33 AM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

I believe it runs more along the lines of what Lana went through with Clark when she didn't know his secret. All of a Chloe is secret keeper to Clark and Lana (others too but I can't think of them off the top of my head). Jimmy mentioned Clark when he gave Chloe the verbal beat down, yet Jimmy doesn't know the true reasons why Chloe protects Clark so much. Chloe's own words to Clark "Clark, you don't get how much of my life I spend protecting your secret." As for her defense of Davis, although they caught the shadow creature/bad guy, there was no evidence that Davis killed some of those people and you can't point to Infamous because when Clark changed time he also changed Chloe finding out who Davis really is. It seems like if Jimmy has taken over the "why can't you just tell me the truth" roll from Lana.

I actually think it was a little uncalled for. It does seem to set the unfortunate stage for Chloe being killed off (I hope not).

luthorian
03-20-2009, 08:41 AM
Thank god one of them finally said it out loud. They both already knew it so no shocking suprise there.

onebighottie
03-20-2009, 08:43 AM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

It's also his addiction to pain killers that's making him say these things. And if he doesn't get help, he may die of an overdose.

Isabel14
03-20-2009, 08:43 AM
I don't quite blame him...He actually had the guts to say the truth out loud..

LoveHurts38
03-20-2009, 08:47 AM
I don't blame him ..he is just very upset of everything going on around him when his wife is elsewhere.

Smallville Vamp
03-20-2009, 09:06 AM
Enough was enough, love may be blind but Jimmy seems to have 20/20. A wife should NEVER pick her friends(especially if they're guys) over HER HUSBAND. Hey I've learned THIS the hard way, now so has she! LOL

This was the first time since AA came on the show that I actually LIKED Jimmy, so great job on the acting & writing too, IMO.

cma_454
03-20-2009, 09:07 AM
Sorry, from Jimmy's POV he was justified. Even more so from the audience's POV. I have to agree with him, Chloe's been so much more supportive of Davis and Clark than she has of Jimmy.



Let's face it, you're injured trying to protect your bride, who then doesn't have the time to stay with you when you're in ICU. Instead, your wife's cousin (who has a real job to go to) takes the time off to care for you.

Then, when you're moved to a hospital where it's finally convenient for her to visit you once in a while, you see her in a long embrace with another man outside your room.

We won't even get into her whole history of ditching you to do stuff with/for Clark. But what's with the tasering you (while you're still recovering from the injuries you got defending her), to protect a murderer? Come on, maybe she didn't know he was a murderer, but shouldn't at least she give her husband the benefit of the doubt? How about at least speaking up before tasering an injured man?



It's not like he hasn't tried to talk to her about this kind of stuff before.
I mean, just how much crap is the poor guy supposed to endure in silence?

I'm sorry, I like both Chloe and AM, but in this case (IMHO) she earned the verbal slap down. To paraphrase Lois, 'How can someone that's so smart be so stupid?"

psyko69
03-20-2009, 09:24 AM
Chloe has had major problems with secrets. Her judgment when it comes to things like that has been piss poor.

-She stabbed Clark in the back in season 2
-She put everyone's life in danger just to discover his secret in season 3
-She lies to her husband (she should address this with Clark)
-She still pines for Clark deep down in many ways, even if she does not love him
-She kept Lana's secret in season 6 that ultimately put her in danger and hurt her (because she knows about Clark, she should have told him, given the circumstances)
-She lies about Brainiac, or fails to mention it, and is snooty and rude to Oliver when he points out how dangerous it is.
-She acts all defensive in Power when Clark accuses her of keeping secrets about Lana, which again wind up with Lana in danger, and pretends she doesn't know what he's talking about.
-She lies to her husband to protect a MURDERER, Clark is at least understandable, but Davis is not helping people, hes a murderer.
-She knows about the destroyer from Krypton
-She knows Davis is a monster
-She knows Davis is THE monster who attacked her husband, who selflessly put himself in harms way to protect her.
-She knows about the blackouts and that he thinks he has killed people.
-She doesn't tell Clark even when his life could be in danger because of it.
-She hugs the man who kissed her behind her husbands back in front of her husbands hospital room.
-She neglects to mention said kiss to Jimmy, even when he was up front about his mistakes with her, and when he made them he was drunk and endorphin seduced by Maxima, whereas she has no excuse.
-She believes a murderer over her husband.
-She taser's her husband.
-She tells Clark to regress (hide, quit DP) most likely to keep him from ultimately discovering Davis' secret.
-She hangs out with Clark and Lana while her husband is in the hospital, delegating Lois to bedside duty instead.
-She supposedly starts FEEDING people to Doomsday
-And she has the nerve to call HIS judgment into question.

Chloe has a lot of issues, and IMO, this has been a long time coming for her. Once shes on the inside she suddenly believes her judgment is godly.

Clark could help Davis more than Chloe, yet Chloe seems to have this God complex and completely fails to see her own shortcomings, all the while judging others, lying when she shouldn't be, and conniving.

What the hell is up with her? She's been at this for years. At this point, I'm pretty sure shes a goner.

Who knows, maybe it might even be Doomsday who kills her. Talk about twist of irony.

I honestly can't see how people can still be defending Chloe.

Mickey_Bickey
03-20-2009, 09:28 AM
It's hard for me to say this, because I've always really liked Chloe's character, but Jimmy had a right to blast her last night. He risked his life for her. He put himself between her and the "Beast" and for what? So, she can turn around and taser him and not trust him?

I don't like where any of this is going, but I'd probably have the same reaction that Jimmy did.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 09:31 AM
I have to agree with him, Chloe's been so much more supportive of Davis and Clark than she has of Jimmy.

Chloe is supportive yes, but she should have been given the chance to tell Jimmy what was going on, with Davis. She's supportive for Clark because that goes with the whole "Truth about Clark Kent" and she said it herself, she would die before telling anyone Clark's secret.


Let's face it, you're injured trying to protect your bride, who then doesn't have the time to stay with you when you're in ICU. Instead, your wife's cousin (who has a real job to go to) takes the time off to care for you.

Can't blame Chloe on this one because she was possessed by BrainIAC. How would she explain that one away?


Then, when you're moved to a hospital where it's finally convenient for her to visit you once in a while, you see her in a long embrace with another man outside your room.

You can't blame a guy for being upset about this one. I know I would be questioning that if I saw my wife hugging a guy for that long, but I would want an explaination before giving her a verbal beat down.


We won't even get into her whole history of ditching you to do stuff with/for Clark.

It goes back to protecting Clark's secret.


But what's with the tasering you (while you're still recovering from the injuries you got defending her), to protect a murderer? Come on, maybe she didn't know he was a murderer, but shouldn't at least she give her husband the benefit of the doubt? How about at least speaking up before tasering an injured man?

I agree whole heartedly on this one. She should have at least given him a chance to explain, but not so long before that happened she did see him freak out when he thought Chloe was killed by Doomsday. Kind of protecting him from doing something he might regret.



It's not like he hasn't tried to talk to her about this kind of stuff before.
I mean, just how much crap is the poor guy supposed to endure in silence?

I'm sorry, I like both Chloe and AM, but in this case (IMHO) she earned the verbal slap down. To paraphrase Lois, 'How can someone that's so smart be so stupid?"

I have to agree with you here. It doesn't help to bottle things up and that's what happened to Jimmy from his POV. It also doesn't help that he is taking those drugs. Those things can F you up if you aren't careful.

Alpha Coyote
03-20-2009, 09:36 AM
You know psyko69 its funny that you meantion her being killed by Doomsday because we saw that last night when Jimmy was freaking out in his so called dream world. So yes it wouldn't surprise me one bitif Doomsday killed her. Maybe the producers were kind of hintingat that.

melissan02
03-20-2009, 09:57 AM
Problem? Jimmy? :confused:
I think Jimmy just got rid of his "problem" last night!:p Way to go Jimbo!:D

That's been built up in him for a long time!

alma
03-20-2009, 09:58 AM
I felt really bad for Jimmy in this episode. I don't blame him at all for what he said, Chloe seemed more interested in protecting Davis then making sure her husband was ok. Davis was way out of line for how he treated Jimmy in this episode, but what was worse was Chloe taking Davis side instead of her husband.:mad:

Melioratus
03-20-2009, 10:06 AM
I'd like to think that my wife would do a much better job at consoling me if I had just been mauled at our wedding, and spend a little less time trying to find reasons to touch/hold/hug/drop her pants for the local paramedic.

Storm45
03-20-2009, 10:06 AM
Jimmy's problem is simply that he should've realized a long time ago that between him and Chloe it wouldn't work.

Lesson for Jimmy: Marriage won't fix the problem in a relationship.

Alpha Coyote
03-20-2009, 10:08 AM
After reading others post I am begging to agree now with other that Chole has a serious problem now.

Timester
03-20-2009, 10:14 AM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

Jimmy was mauled by a monster when he tried to protect his wife. He went on a coma for some weeks and is full of pain. The moment that he needed his wife more and what Chloe does? She trust the other guy over Jimmy...

If anything, Jimmy was way nice to Chloe.

celita
03-20-2009, 10:15 AM
Jimmy's problem is simply that he should've realized a long time ago that between him and Chloe it wouldn't work.

Lesson for Jimmy: Marriage won't fix the problem in a relationship.

Yah Jimmy, when your wife takes theside of a murdered and doesn't trust you....its time to fill the papers

At least you know Clark is a good person, but Davis?

:cool:sign the papers Jimmy and don't pay for the funeral

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 10:16 AM
I bolded my answers:

Chloe has had major problems with secrets. Her judgment when it comes to things like that has been piss poor.

-She stabbed Clark in the back in season 2
Too far back to hold against her.
-She put everyone's life in danger just to discover his secret in season 3
Again too far back.
-She lies to her husband (she should address this with Clark)
Could you elaborate on this one?
-She still pines for Clark deep down in many ways, even if she does not love him
They have been best friends for along time. If you and I were friends for as long as these two have been friends then I could give you some leeway on this one.
-She kept Lana's secret in season 6 that ultimately put her in danger and hurt her (because she knows about Clark, she should have told him, given the circumstances)
Could you elaborate on this one, too? I'm not sure what happened that put Lana's life in danger.
-She lies about Brainiac, or fails to mention it, and is snooty and rude to Oliver when he points out how dangerous it is.
This one is easy, she is trying to get Clark out of his situation, doing exactly what Clark did for her when he rebuilt the fortress.
-She acts all defensive in Power when Clark accuses her of keeping secrets about Lana, which again wind up with Lana in danger, and pretends she doesn't know what he's talking about.
Actually Lana wasn't in danger. She was getting the "suit" put on.
-She lies to her husband to protect a MURDERER, Clark is at least understandable, but Davis is not helping people, hes a murderer.
I don't think she believes that Davis is a murderer. She doesn't know about his beast within.
-She knows about the destroyer from Krypton
So does Clark so who is she keeping this a secret from?
-She knows Davis is a monster
Where's the proof? Clark changed the past so Chloe never got the "I'm the other Kryptonian, I was sent here to kill Clark" conversation.
-She knows Davis is THE monster who attacked her husband, who selflessly put himself in harms way to protect her.
Again Clark changed the past.
-She knows about the blackouts and that he thinks he has killed people.
She knows about the blackouts but has no idea that Davis is killing people. This was explained to her satisfaction when they captured the Shadow villian.
-She doesn't tell Clark even when his life could be in danger because of it.
Because of what? I'm a little confused on this one.
-She hugs the man who kissed her behind her husbands back in front of her husbands hospital room.
Moral support for what she is going through. He hugged her telling her things were going to be ok, I think. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
-She neglects to mention said kiss to Jimmy, even when he was up front about his mistakes with her, and when he made them he was drunk and endorphin seduced by Maxima, whereas she has no excuse.
I would have to agree with you here. Since Jimmy isn't pumped full of drugs I think he would say that she forgave him and do the same for her, but remember Davis did kiss her. I don't know if I would tell my wife if a girl kissed me because she had feeling for me. I don't think I did anything wrong. I am not able to control what people do. My opinion.
-She believes a murderer over her husband.
Again she doesn't know he is a murderer.
-She taser's her husband.
She could have done this to protect if from doing something he might regret. Kind of like when that girl was pushing Clark to kill the guy who killed her mom and almost killed her. Clark heard his father and that stopped him from doing something he would have regretted. Besides, she doesn't know the full power of Davis as she doesn't know that he is this ultimate destroyer so she had no idea what Jimmy was capable of.
-She tells Clark to regress (hide, quit DP) most likely to keep him from ultimately discovering Davis' secret.
Sorry but I totally disagree with this point. It was more for Clark's safety. Clark doesn't do so well when he feel someone is on to his secret.
-She hangs out with Clark and Lana while her husband is in the hospital, delegating Lois to bedside duty instead.
Off screen she could be at his bedside. We don't know that this is true. Remember she was also trying to track down Lex. This could be a topic all on its own.
-She supposedly starts FEEDING people to Doomsday
Again, where's the proof? I didn't see her feeding people to Doomsday.
-And she has the nerve to call HIS judgment into question.
As much as we can't blame Jimmy for reacting the way he did, we have to see it from her side too. He freaked out and saw her being murdered by the monster that kidnapped her, he is on medication, and trying to give himself even more meds as he is in his hospital room. On top of that the medication he gets when he leaves is highly addictive, and she knows this.

I think Chloe is trying to do way too much. Yes she should be by his side but you can't fault her for some of her reasons for not being there, ie possessed by BrainIAC. I think the two of them should have sat down and discussed matters before the verbal beat down.

In Jimmy's defense, you can't expect him to witness all of this and keep it bottled up inside. Look what happened, he exploded at the end of the show.

cma_454
03-20-2009, 10:18 AM
...She's supportive for Clark because that goes with the whole "Truth about Clark Kent" and she said it herself, she would die before telling anyone Clark's secret...Can't blame Chloe on this one because she was possessed by BrainIAC. How would she explain that one away?...It goes back to protecting Clark's secret...


...She should have at least given him a chance to explain, but not so long before that happened she did see him freak out when he thought Chloe was killed by Doomsday. Kind of protecting him from doing something he might regret...

The thing is, Chloe's explanation (to Jimmy) about her relationship with Clark pretty much consisted of, 'You'll just have to trust me.'

All well and good, but when Jimmy asks the same of Chloe, her answer is to taser him.

Bad enough for a normal person, but Chloe's been portrayed (until now) as someone with intelligence way above normal. She really seems to have the blinders on regarding Davis, too bad she can’t give her husband the same consideration.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 10:23 AM
All well and good, but when Jimmy asks the same of Chloe, her answer is to taser him.

Totally true. You still have to remember, she thinks Davis is a normal person. She doesn't know "what kills him makes him stronger." I won't say what she did was wrong, because it wasn't but you have to remember she feels that he isn't in his right mind. I think if she knew Clark was going to do the same thing, she would have Kryponite in hand just like Martha did when Clark disrupted Lex and Lana's engagment party.

Anu
03-20-2009, 10:30 AM
And i just have to ask, how can anyone still like Chloe??

Timester
03-20-2009, 10:31 AM
Totally true. You still have to remember, she thinks Davis is a normal person. She doesn't know "what kills him makes him stronger." I won't say what she did was wrong, because it wasn't but you have to remember she feels that he isn't in his right mind. I think if she knew Clark was going to do the same thing, she would have Kryponite in hand just like Martha did when Clark disrupted Lex and Lana's engagment party.

She knows that Davis is not a normal person. Has she forgot about his past and blackouts?

Chloe isn't that dumb, the little blonde that was on last night's episode wasn't Chloe. I refuse to believe that.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 10:36 AM
She knows that Davis is not a normal person. Has she forgot about his past and blackouts?

Chloe isn't that dumb, the little blonde that was on last night's episode wasn't Chloe. I refuse to believe that.

What does she actually know about his past? The only thing that comes to mind is that he doesn't know anything before he was 3 and he has always had blackouts which was probably the reason why he went from foster home to foster home. As for the blackouts, I said this when I answered a bunch of statements from psyko69, this was explained to her satisifaction when they caught the Shadow villian (I can't remember his name) because he took credit for all of the murders. Wouldn't that convince you? Remember you are trying to prove that this guy can't be a murderer because of, mainly, his line of work.

Timester
03-20-2009, 10:42 AM
What does she actually know about his past? The only thing that comes to mind is that he doesn't know anything before he was 3 and he has always had blackouts which was probably the reason why he went from foster home to foster home.

Exactly?

Old Chloe would fall on that like a dog on a bone.


As for the blackouts, I said this when I answered a bunch of statements from psyko69, this was explained to her satisifaction when they caught the Shadow villian (I can't remember his name) because he took credit for all of the murders. Wouldn't that convince you? Remember you are trying to prove that this guy can't be a murderer because of, mainly, his line of work.

Yet, people are still dying and missing. Heck, DOOMSDAY is still on loose and Chloe acts like it was a small thing.

We are talking about Chloe here, she didn't trust anyone but Clark. EVERYTHING was to be investigated. Yet, she completely ignore what her HUSBAND says...

luthorian
03-20-2009, 10:43 AM
I'd like to think that my wife would do a much better job at consoling me if I had just been mauled at our wedding, and spend a little less time trying to find reasons to touch/hold/hug/drop her pants for the local paramedic.

:rotfl:

Iluvgreen
03-20-2009, 10:46 AM
I don't blame him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chloe didn't trust him at all!! AND SHE SHOCKED THE CRAP OUT OF HIM!!!!!!! You just don't do that to your husband! Especially when they witnessed a murder, and was just barely in a coma!

CallMeClark
03-20-2009, 10:48 AM
If anything, Jimmy was way nice to Chloe.
Couldn't agree more.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 10:52 AM
Exactly?

Old Chloe would fall on that like a dog on a bone.

You kind of answered your own question. OLD Chloe would have done that. Chloe, in Abyss, remembered ONLY Davis so she wouldn't have forgotten Davis asking her not to look into his past. Remembering how looking into someones past has burnt her before, I think she told herself when someone says drop it she drops it.


Yet, people are still dying and missing. Heck, DOOMSDAY is still on loose and Chloe acts like it was a small thing.

We are talking about Chloe here, she didn't trust anyone but Clark. EVERYTHING was to be investigated. Yet, she completely ignore what her HUSBAND says...

She has no way of knowing that Davis is Doomsday, period end of story. Clark changed that. I'm one person who will always admit when I'm wrong so please prove me wrong. Chloe was PISSED when Clark went behind her back and started a witch hunt against the meteor infected even when one of her members was the one behind it. She couldn't believe it but helped Clark when they found out that Davis' DNA was under the victims nails and when Clark confronted Davis, DAVIS was attacked and Clark witnessed it. Confirming to both Clark and Chloe that Davis wasn't the murderer. I agree that Chloe does turn a blind eye to Davis but wouldn't you do the same for your friend?

Timester
03-20-2009, 10:56 AM
You kind of answered your own question. OLD Chloe would have done that. Chloe, in Abyss, remembered ONLY Davis so she wouldn't have forgotten Davis asking her not to look into his past. Remembering how looking into someones past has burnt her before, I think she told herself when someone says drop it she drops it.

The thing is old Chloe was shown just last week. How am I supposed to follow a story when characters are not constant to theirselves?


She has no way of knowing that Davis is Doomsday, period end of story. Clark changed that. I'm one person who will always admit when I'm wrong so please prove me wrong. Chloe was PISSED when Clark went behind her back and started a witch hunt against the meteor infected even when one of her members are behind it. She couldn't believe it but helped Clark when they found out that Davis' DNA was under the victims nails and when Clark confronted Davis, DAVIS was attacked and Clark witnessed it. Confirming to both Clark and Chloe that Davis wasn't the murderer. I agree that Chloe does turn a blind eye to Davis but wouldn't you do the same for your friend?

Chloe? No. OOC Chloe? I don't care about her.

Anu
03-20-2009, 10:57 AM
Could anyone explain to me why Chloe shocked Jimmy? Okay, I understand that she saved him at the same time. But how did she know that she could save him or that Davis is a murderer or anything? This is just so weird...

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 10:59 AM
The thing is old Chloe was shown just last week. How am I supposed to follow a story when characters are not constant to theirselves?

I don't think this show would rate itself as being consistant, just look at some of the holes the put in some of their plots.




Chloe? No. OOC Chloe? I don't care about her.

Not to sound stupid, but what is OOC Chloe?

By the way Timester, thanks, this thread would be nothing if everyone just kept up with the whole Chloe bashing. This makes it a lot more interesting.


Could anyone explain to me why Chloe shocked Jimmy? Okay, I understand that she saved him at the same time. But how did she know that she could save him or that Davis is a murderer or anything? This is just so weird...

I think it was to stop him from doing something he might regret. My own opinion.

Kal_El=Clark
03-20-2009, 11:35 AM
I think it was to stop him from doing something he might regret. My own opinion.

I think that kinda shows she knows something about Davis or cant trust Jimmy....... Jimmy did also say to Davis that he called Chloe so i don't think that he would of done a mistake cause she would of been there..... my two cents :D

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 11:45 AM
I think that kinda shows she knows something about Davis or cant trust Jimmy....... Jimmy did also say to Davis that he called Chloe so i don't think that he would of done a mistake cause she would of been there..... my two cents :D

Well I think it goes back to the Vengance and the Angel of Vengance told Clark to kill the guy who killed her mom and had her (Angel) given a heart that was meteor infected. Clark stopped himself from doing something he would regret with help from his dad, an inner voice type of thing. In this instance stopping Jimmy was her way of saving him from doing something he may regret later on in life. Just go back to 007 Jimmy and how he hated turning evidence against Chloe or his regrets on sending Lois on a false lead when the Fortress was destroyed. She didn't seem to taze him with the intent to harm him. Her intent seemed to be protecting him from himself. She didn't witness Davis' face transforming so she was unaware of what was happening and probably confused as to why Jimmy would go after him the way he did.

As for his reasons for calling her, it was the same reason he wanted to use in Identity. He wanted to prove to Clark that he knew his secret. This time around he wanted to prove to Chloe that Davis was a killer. I think he had the best of intentions but didn't work out the way he thought, hense the "you would protect them before me" statement.

noblue4u
03-20-2009, 11:50 AM
The fact is that Chloe didn't even give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt. Right off the bat, she assumed that Davis is telling the truth and that Jimmy is a delusional, drugged up, loon. By now, Chloe should know that such accusations are worth investigating, even just a little.

Considering the fact that earlier in the season Davis came to Chloe and told her about his blackouts and that he might be a serial killer without realizing it, I think it would've been too little to ask for Chloe to look into what Jimmy told her.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Considering the fact that earlier in the season Davis came to Chloe and told her about his blackouts and that he might be a serial killer without realizing it, I think it would've been too little to ask for Chloe to look into what Jimmy told her.

And that's the reason I believe that Jimmy jumped the gun on his beat down. That's the unfortunate part of keeping things bottled up inside, though. I do think that the drugs had something to do with his behavior, though.

Kal_El=Clark
03-20-2009, 12:03 PM
And that's the reason I believe that Jimmy jumped the gun on his beat down. That's the unfortunate part of keeping things bottled up inside, though. I do think that the drugs had something to do with his behavior, though.


He did remember quite well that he got the Cut on his hand in Davis's truck and also remebered the dead body in the truck with out any problems....

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mjs1973
03-20-2009, 12:24 PM
He did remember quite well that he got the Cut on his hand in Davis's truck and also remebered the dead body in the truck with out any problems....

But in Chloe's mind, Jimmy was off his rocker. She was a witness when the staff held him down. Davis is doing his best to make Jimmy out as a nut job, probably because he is making good on his statement to Chloe, he wasn't going to stand by and watch her marry the wrong guy. It's hard to go back to previous episodes, ie Infamous, and point out things that were said. You can't expect Chloe to remember that Davis came and told her that he was sent here to kill Clark because after Clark stopped Linda Lake, Davis had no memory of finding out who this other Kryptonian is so this stops him from going to Chloe for help and telling her that he is kryptonian also. Watching a lot of Back to the Future has me looking at these situations from different points of view.


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krpto
03-20-2009, 12:26 PM
Jimmy was mauled by a monster when he tried to protect his wife. He went on a coma for some weeks and is full of pain. The moment that he needed his wife more and what Chloe does? She trust the other guy over Jimmy...

If anything, Jimmy was way nice to Chloe.
Exactly if that situation had happened in real life A man protecting his wife getting hurt then put on pain pills him seeing the paramedic killing someone then being drugged by paramedic to be made to look crazy then his wife took the paramedics side over his after he almost died trying to protect her He ould be using words they cannot say on tv and thats not even counting the fact that chloe keeps trusting clark and being hanging with him but not telling jimmy why. If the jimmy telling chloe marrying her was a mistake was a real conversation caught on tape and played on television thier would be alot of bleeped out words used so honestly jimmy was holding back then after he finally let out what he was feeling he much like I would felt horrible about saying what he was thinking and said to himself if everyone thinks I'm a drug addict because of the murderer I mas as well become one and use the drugs to help my physical and emotional pain.

cma_454
03-20-2009, 12:28 PM
And that's the reason I believe that Jimmy jumped the gun on his beat down. That's the unfortunate part of keeping things bottled up inside, though. I do think that the drugs had something to do with his behavior, though.

If Jimmy had asked Chloe to explain everything, would she? Could she? Or, would she have just played the old 'You'll just have to trust me' card? And if she did, how much would that have helped (considering her lack of trust in Jimmy)?

Yes, as the audience we're aware of certain things that might excuse some of Chloe's actions, but how can Jimmy be expected know these things?

IMHO Jimmy's reaction was reasonable, given what he knows.

On a side note, it seems the Jimmy/Chloe relationship is going down the old 'Secrets and Lies' path so often traveled by Clana in seasons past.:mad:

----- Added 11 Minutes later -----


But in Chloe's mind, Jimmy was off his rocker. She was a witness when the staff held him down. Davis is doing his best to make Jimmy out as a nut job, probably because he is making good on his statement to Chloe, he wasn't going to stand by and watch her marry the wrong guy. It's hard to go back to previous episodes, ie Infamous, and point out things that were said. You can't expect Chloe to remember that Davis came and told her that he was sent here to kill Clark because after Clark stopped Linda Lake, Davis had no memory of finding out who this other Kryptonian is so this stops him from going to Chloe for help and telling her that he is kryptonian also. Watching a lot of Back to the Future has me looking at these situations from different points of view.

So you're saying Chloe's tasering of Jimmy was justified, based on what she knew at the time?

If so, I agree.

The thing is, that's exactly why I think Jimmy's verbal slap down was justified (based on what he knew at the time).

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 12:51 PM
If Jimmy had asked Chloe to explain everything, would she? Could she? Or, would she have just played the old 'You'll just have to trust me' card? And if she did, how much would that have helped (considering her lack of trust in Jimmy)?

I don't think we will ever know. If he brought up certain aspects of his honesty, ie making out with Maxima, then to some degree, yes. I don't expect her to drop the "Clark's an alien from another planet" bomb on him, but I don't think she had anything to worry about in telling him about Davis' lip service. She pulled away and put a stop to it. Maybe someone can point this out to me, has Chloe ever showed any lack of trust in Jimmy since becoming engaged? I know she didn't trust even Clark when she found out she was a "meteor freak." She felt as isolated as Clark did before he told Pete. I can't think of anytime she has questioned Jimmy's trust. Oh, and by the way, BrainIAC stealing memories doesn't count. ;)


Yes, as the audience we're aware of certain things that might excuse some of Chloe's actions, but how can Jimmy be expected know these things?

IMHO Jimmy's reaction was reasonable, given what he knows.

On a side note, it seems the Jimmy/Chloe relationship is going down the old 'Secrets and Lies' path so often traveled by Clana in seasons past.:mad:

I totally agree with you on this part. Jimmy just had enough. He saw Davis killing someone, Davis turns around and points the finger at Jimmy because Jimmy kept giving himself, alegedly, more pain medicine, Jimmy finds dead body in ambulence, Davis gives him a shot of whatever, Jimmy flips and sees Chloe die, then sees her in front of him with a worried look on her face, then Jimmy follows Davis to where he is about to attack his next victim, locks up Davis, gets tazed by Chloe and then ends up being put on heavier meds because of what has transpired? All the while, he sees Davis and Chloe share a hug that, from Jimmy's POV, is more intimate then friendship. You can't keep stuff like that bottled up and not expect something happening.

As for the "secrets and lies path" I feel that Jimmy has grabbed the torch from Lana in feeling like everyone needs to be honest with everyone. I think if (in theory) Chloe told Jimmy the whole truth, Jimmy would feel like a big ass. Lois did when she found out about Clark's true identity.

drew24
03-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

Let's see how you feel if/when your spouse show he/she doesn't trust you and show she trust the other person more. It's a huge slap in the face.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 01:04 PM
Let's see how you feel if/when your spouse show he/she doesn't trust you and show she trust the other person more. It's a huge slap in the face.

Ouch, I hope you aren't speaking from experience.

Bizarrolover
03-20-2009, 01:07 PM
As for the "secrets and lies path" I feel that Jimmy has grabbed the torch from Lana in feeling like everyone needs to be honest with everyone. I think if (in theory) Chloe told Jimmy the whole truth, Jimmy would feel like a big ass. Lois did when she found out about Clark's true identity.

I disagree, marriage is about commitment and Chloe is not commited to her husband. She wasn't there for him while he was in recovery, she encouraged a relationship with a guy that forced a kiss on her (not so forced, in my opinion). She belived this guy over what her own husband was saying even though she knews that this guy was suspected of murder several times. She is attracted to Davis and chose to support him and not her husband in the same way she stood by Clark's side instead of Jimmy's in Identity (I'm not saying she should reveal Clark secret, but asking her BFF to keep her out of that mess would have been enough). Her loyalties are misplaced.

Chloe likes tall, hot Kryptonians, she doesn't care about cute, regular men. At this point, I'm starting to believe it's a hormonal thing (or a twist in her arc we don't expect) because her actions are beyond irrational.

Dyanara
03-20-2009, 01:10 PM
What's wrong with Jimmy? He has a problem with his wife being close with guys who are 10x hotter than he is. It causes him to go crazy.

mjs1973
03-20-2009, 01:19 PM
I disagree, marriage is about commitment and Chloe is not commited to her husband. She wasn't there for him while he was in recovery, she encouraged a relationship with a guy that forced a kiss on her (not so forced, in my opinion). She belived this guy over what her own husband was saying even though she knews that this guy was suspected of murder several times. She is attracted to Davis and chose to support him and not her husband in the same way she stood by Clark's side instead of Jimmy's in Identity (I'm not saying she should reveal Clark secret, but asking her BFF to keep her out of that mess would have been enough). Her loyalties are misplaced.

Chloe likes tall, hot Kryptonians, she doesn't care about cute, regular men. At this point, I'm starting to believe it's a hormonal thing (or a twist in her arc we don't expect) because her actions are beyond irrational.

Yes marriage is a commitment. Chloe, in her defense, was trying to do what was best for Jimmy. It's painful to see the person/people you love go in a different direction then you are used to. Just my two cents, look at some of the members of the armed forces coming back from war and either committing murder or suicide. Jimmy went through a terrible ordeal and he probably doesn't even know why Chloe wasn't there after the attack in Bride. Part of that commitment is working through the good times and the bad. This falls under the bad. I don't think Chloe's loyalties are misplaced, I think she just falls into the realm that she put Clark in, she tries to see the good in people and doesn't realize that she is actually making things worse for herself.

I hope that makes sense.


What's wrong with Jimmy? He has a problem with his wife being close with guys who are 10x hotter than he is. It causes him to go crazy.

Ouch. Not to crazy about that bow tie, huh?

ims001
03-20-2009, 01:22 PM
What's wrong with Jimmy? He has a problem with his wife being close with guys who are 10x hotter than he is. It causes him to go crazy.

Yeah, he needs to accept it, move on, and turn the tables.

If Kara comes back for the finale, Jimmy can get with her again. We'll see how Chloe likes in when Jimmy's with a girl 10x hotter than her (at least).:rotfl:

Bizarrolover
03-20-2009, 01:23 PM
I hope that makes sense.


It does, thanks your post was really insightful and softened my opinion of her. But I still think she should have been by her husband's side during his recovery. I'm sure that the outcome would have been different. But she chose to stay in Smallville and only visited him a couple of times.

Dyanara
03-20-2009, 01:27 PM
Yeah, he needs to accept it, move on, and turn the tables.

If Kara comes back for the finale, Jimmy can get with her again. We'll see how Chloe likes in when Jimmy's with a girl 10x hotter than her (at least).:rotfl:

Yeah cuz Kara would definitely get it on with a drug addict loser. She'd probably fight Chloe for Davis, because we all know Chloe is about to get with Davis.

ims001
03-20-2009, 01:35 PM
Yeah cuz Kara would definitely get it on with a drug addict loser. She'd probably fight Chloe for Davis, because we all know Chloe is about to get with Davis.

You're probably right about Chloe and Davis I guess when you turn into a hideous monster, you've got to settle for a girl like Chloe. :rotfl:

Kara can do better.

Dyanara
03-20-2009, 01:55 PM
Just wait until Jimmy finds out Chloe is also chummy with Oliver Queen. So that's now 3 guys who look better than him who Chloe is close with. Oh lord, the little boy won't know what to do with himself

Timester
03-20-2009, 01:57 PM
What's wrong with Jimmy? He has a problem with his wife being close with guys who are 10x hotter than he is. It causes him to go crazy.

Considering that Jimmy was on Davis BEFORE he knew about that, I fail to see your point.

ims001
03-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Just wait until Jimmy finds out Chloe is also chummy with Oliver Queen. So that's now 3 guys who look better than him who Chloe is close with. Oh lord, the little boy won't know what to do with himself

Yeah, but two of them treat her like their little sister, and both can do way better (and have).

Dyanara
03-20-2009, 02:06 PM
We're not talking about if Chloe wants to or will hook up with them. I am talking about Jimmy's lack of self-esteem when it comes to his wife and guys who are hotter than him.

ims001
03-20-2009, 02:08 PM
We're not talking about if Chloe wants to or will hook up with them. I am talking about Jimmy's lack of self-esteem when it comes to his wife and guys who are hotter than him.

I've got to give you that (Jimmy's lack of self-esteem). Then again, that's probably why he wanted to rush into marriage.

Timester
03-20-2009, 02:09 PM
We're not talking about if Chloe wants to or will hook up with them. I am talking about Jimmy's lack of self-esteem when it comes to his wife and guys who are hotter than him.

I call it justified lack of trust that he feels. Which is the truth.

devilneedsaride
03-20-2009, 02:10 PM
Honestly, I think both parties were justified in the way they acted here. It was reasonable for Chloe to think Jimmy was hallucinating the whole thing given what she knew, and it was then a very good idea to taser him before he could kill someone in a delusional episode. I mean, was she supposed to walk up to that situation and go "Oh hey look, my obviously out of it husband is about to kill my friend with a rusty pipe, but I'm his wife and I'm committed to him, so I'm gonna let him do it?" No. I think she did what any reasonable person would do.

At the same time, I can understand Jimmy's frustration with the relationship and with Chloe obviously not trusting his judgment. It clearly wasn't just about this time, but rather an explosion of the pent-up frustration he's been feeling every time she takes Clark's side over his. I think it was reasonable for him to just flip the frick out. At the same time, "Marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" is the kind of thing that you should only say if you really mean it, because that's the kind of statement that you can't take back.

Timester
03-20-2009, 02:14 PM
I mean, was she supposed to walk up to that situation and go "Oh hey look, my obviously out of it husband is about to kill my friend with a rusty pipe, but I'm his wife and I'm committed to him, so I'm gonna let him do it?" No. I think she did what any reasonable person would do.

Why was Chloe walking around with a taser in the first place?

devilneedsaride
03-20-2009, 02:17 PM
Why was Chloe walking around with a taser in the first place?

We've seen her carry one around before. I don't find it odd that she's got one on her when she's walking around alone after dark in one of the most crime-ridden cities in the country.

skugers
03-20-2009, 02:20 PM
We're not talking about if Chloe wants to or will hook up with them. I am talking about Jimmy's lack of self-esteem when it comes to his wife and guys who are hotter than him.
I disagree. Judging by his actions in Turbulence, I honestly don't see where the lack of self esteem is... So far in his relationship with Chloe he was the honest one.
And seriously, Jimmy isn't some 14 year old who throws jealousy acts just because he thinks his rival is hotter than him. Him being PO'D and having enough of Chloe's distrust has nothing to do with Davis so-called hotness (which is, otherwise, your own opinion based on subjectivity; Jimmy never verbalized that he felt inferior to Davis because of his looks).
It's far more deeper than the 'lack of self esteem' or the inferiority aspect. Jimmy is a man who tried desperately to show his wife that she trusts the wrong guy. Chloe was supposed to at least listen to him given the fact that she was his wife. She failed to do that...

ims001
03-20-2009, 02:21 PM
Why was Chloe walking around with a taser in the first place?

Because a cop is too heavy to carry around with you.

BadaBingBadaBoomsday
03-20-2009, 02:56 PM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

I agree.

I was looking for this kind of response in another thread. I feel better that somebody else agrees me.

I now hope dooms sorts the loser out.

luthorian
03-20-2009, 03:02 PM
I now hope dooms sorts the loser out.

Oh I can't wait to see that..again. :D

Storm45
03-20-2009, 03:07 PM
Because a cop is too heavy to carry around with you.

:rotfl:

Or Clark for that matter.

Its not the first time that she carries that teaser.

costas22
03-20-2009, 03:12 PM
The way Chloe has been written,it's hard not to agree with Jimmy.Trust me,i was the one who always thought that Jimmy was not good enough for her.Last week when i saw the preview clip i wanted to believe that there was more to that.That Jimmy must have gone insane ala Clark in Splinter.That he had hurt Chloe in his dillusional mind set.The things that happened beforehand can't justify why she had to taser him.How about calling out to him?How about grabbing him?I was never big on Chimmy but it didn't deserve an ending like that.

Timester
03-20-2009, 03:14 PM
Because a cop is too heavy to carry around with you.

Chloe is an authority now? :confused:

Storm45
03-20-2009, 03:18 PM
A girl needs protection when walking alone in the dark in the city. I know first hand. When a killer or rapist comes to attack you, you have more chance of getting through this by defending yourself than wait for a cop to eventually come around. Right?

lastdaughterofkrypton
03-20-2009, 05:16 PM
If Jimmy had asked Chloe to explain everything, would she? Could she? Or, would she have just played the old 'You'll just have to trust me' card? And if she did, how much would that have helped (considering her lack of trust in Jimmy)?

Yes, as the audience we're aware of certain things that might excuse some of Chloe's actions, but how can Jimmy be expected know these things?

IMHO Jimmy's reaction was reasonable, given what he knows.

On a side note, it seems the Jimmy/Chloe relationship is going down the old 'Secrets and Lies' path so often traveled by Clana in seasons past.:mad:

----- Added 11 Minutes later -----


So you're saying Chloe's tasering of Jimmy was justified, based on what she knew at the time?

If so, I agree.

The thing is, that's exactly why I think Jimmy's verbal slap down was justified (based on what he knew at the time).

I kind of agree with you:

From Jimmy's POV he is perfectly sane and Chloe should had believe him no matter how little proof there was from Chloe POV Jimmy was heavy on drugs hallucinating and willing to beat an inocent man to death and needing extreme force to subdue.
It was a bad place for both characters but I don't see them acting neither of them OOC. If Chloe were investigating her friends like crazy she should had found out about Lana locking her on the wine cellar by now. :rolleyes:

LoisLaneKicksAss
03-20-2009, 05:28 PM
ok, lets give this boy some credit:
he stands by Chloe through everything, treats her perfectly, and we all know that she still isn't happy.
he practically gets shredded by doomsday
is in serious amounts of pain and so gets addicted to pain killers
he finds out that davis is killing people.....yet chloe tasers HIM!
chloe sides with davis 100%
Jimmy was the good guy in this episode.

umm
03-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Honestly, I think both parties were justified in the way they acted here. It was reasonable for Chloe to think Jimmy was hallucinating the whole thing given what she knew, and it was then a very good idea to taser him before he could kill someone in a delusional episode. I mean, was she supposed to walk up to that situation and go "Oh hey look, my obviously out of it husband is about to kill my friend with a rusty pipe, but I'm his wife and I'm committed to him, so I'm gonna let him do it?" No. I think she did what any reasonable person would do.

At the same time, I can understand Jimmy's frustration with the relationship and with Chloe obviously not trusting his judgment. It clearly wasn't just about this time, but rather an explosion of the pent-up frustration he's been feeling every time she takes Clark's side over his. I think it was reasonable for him to just flip the frick out. At the same time, "Marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" is the kind of thing that you should only say if you really mean it, because that's the kind of statement that you can't take back.


Yes, but for two people who were equally wrong, only one is being run ot of the village, and the name of that person start with an C! Doesn't sound very fair!

cma_454
03-20-2009, 05:54 PM
Yes, but for two people who were equally wrong, only one is being run ot of the village, and the name of that person start with an C! Doesn't sound very fair!

I don't know if they were equally wrong. IMHO, both were justified in what they said and did (based on what they knew at the time).

As to who is ultimately right or wrong, I can't really see much room for doubt.

Jimmy is wrong about the type of relationship Chloe has with Clark, but is spot on about Davis/Doomsday being a murderer.

Chloe is wrong about Jimmy's delusions (he really did see Davis murder people), and she's wrong about Davis (who is a murderer/monster).

Now, I won't argue that they don't each have justifications for being wrong. Still, if it's only about being wrong, I don't see it as equal. Not in number (2 to 1) or seriousness (wrong about a type of relationship vs wrong about a mass murderer, and your husband’s sanity).

But, I’ll say again, IMHO, both were justified in what they said and did (based on what they knew at the time).

SGuthrie27
03-20-2009, 05:59 PM
Devilneeds a ride, your post said precisely what I wanted to say but in more reasonable and eloquent words (my brain's always rather fried on a Friday night after a busy work week). Both Chloe AND Jimmy had valid points, and what the two of them did from their own points of view is completely understandable, even though the two should have probably compared notes more and tried to figure out exactly what was really happening rather than discount each other's feelings and opinions.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Moonshayde
03-20-2009, 06:00 PM
Chloe came off bad in this episode. it irks me because I feel like they are assasinating her character this year.

I had to side with Jimmy on this one. It made sympathizing with Chloe very, very difficult. I could only really feel for her when she was crying in the hospital. But man. They should have written her just a little differently to make her come off more sympathetic too.

StevenBlack
03-20-2009, 06:34 PM
Problem? Jimmy? :confused:
I think Jimmy just got rid of his "problem" last night!:p Way to go Jimbo!:D

That's been built up in him for a long time!

couldnt have said it better..

rehana/chole
03-20-2009, 06:47 PM
rite now i hate davis cause he is one 2 cause this na i think jimmy been childies he stil jealious of clark an everyone he doesnt trst chole cayse guys like him dont get girl like her he him slef said that 2 him he lied abt his parent he dump her for kara he dumpo her caUSE HE WAS JEALIOUS OF clark, he spy on her he wen 2 lex abt her he hate meto infected ppl an judge u once ur not normal like him chole has change over the yrs at first she was just like jimmy quick 2 judge ppl but then she found out she was also a freak an it chanage she just wan help them A SHE CLARK HAS TEH SAME TRUST ISSUE THEY BOTH LIKE 2 C THE GOOD IN PPL clark tess n lex chole everybody one there infect or has hard life she 2 soff hearted n kind so give it rest she not bad person nev was bev will b she not bad wife it stupid ass writer fault not mention jimmy evey 56 sec for uu ppl lana gone so u an write need punchin bag leave chole along i hope tess dies or marthA or someboy else then chole now that will b twist cause evrybody wants heer or hope she dies love chole an actress who plY her am is 2 dam in portant 2 this show if she leave sv will b cancled an go down in rating i hope

Jill
03-20-2009, 06:51 PM
Well actually it was about time he did something like that.
He's a human being, he has feelings and has the right to show them.
It was a bit rude if you ask me, but he had to explode one way or another.

Alicia Chipy
03-20-2009, 06:55 PM
Jimmy finally found his cojones and spoke his mind.

lastdaughterofkrypton
03-20-2009, 07:17 PM
ok, lets give this boy some credit:
he stands by Chloe through everything, treats her perfectly, and we all know that she still isn't happy.
he practically gets shredded by doomsday
is in serious amounts of pain and so gets addicted to pain killers
he finds out that davis is killing people.....yet chloe tasers HIM!
chloe sides with davis 100%
Jimmy was the good guy in this episode.

Well I disagree with he treats her perfectly: he was willing to cheat on him with the first girl he could find on a bar after a fight, he flirted with Kara when he was still dating her, he constantly call on Chloe lack of trust on him but he keeps on a relationship with her (Lana much?). I wouldnt call that a perfect behaviour from any man and if she still isn't happy he could just stop dating her and be done with it, you need two to tango. And Chloe doesn't know that Jimmy was right because he was hallucinating he saw her death as well and you know she is alive.
Jimmy was the good guy but we know that because we were watching the show. Chloe doesn't watch Smallville...lucky her! ;)

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


Why was Chloe walking around with a taser in the first place?

She got a flash grenade as well...Can you imagine the threads if she had grenaded Jimmy?!:eek::lol:

thehenry89
03-20-2009, 07:25 PM
Jimmy's my new hero :lol: if clark had the cahones to say something similar to lana all those years ago when she was dating lex we wouldn't have been subjected to 2 years of horrific angst and some of the worst televison in the history of visual media.

SV'S_immortal_hero
03-20-2009, 07:26 PM
Yeah cuz Kara would definitely get it on with a drug addict loser. She'd probably fight Chloe for Davis, because we all know Chloe is about to get with Davis.

so being given meds by a doc to help you recover is being a drug addict. well since i take meds for health problems i guess im a drug addict too :rolleyes:

abbaspice1
03-20-2009, 07:31 PM
Dyanara:

You are forgetting 1 important fact, Jimmy didn't become addicted tot he drugs until AFTER Chloe's lack of trust and Davis' injecting more into him.

What a 1-2 combo. They make a good team (sarcasm)

Jimmy was the man tonight. He had no problems at all doing what he needed to do.

However, it looks like Chloe is about to inherit a TRUCKLOAD of trouble.

And of course, it is going to be Jimmy's fault, Lois' fault, Clark's fault, and Davis' fault.

Storm45
03-20-2009, 07:39 PM
Well I disagree with he treats her perfectly: he was willing to cheat on him with the first girl he could find on a bar after a fight, he flirted with Kara when he was still dating her, he constantly call on Chloe lack of trust on him but he keeps on a relationship with her (Lana much?). I wouldnt call that a perfect behaviour from any man and if she still isn't happy he could just stop dating her and be done with it, you need two to tango. And Chloe doesn't know that Jimmy was right because he was hallucinating he saw her death as well and you know she is alive.
Jimmy was the good guy but we know that because we were watching the show. Chloe doesn't watch Smallville...lucky her! ;)

Don't forget the spying in Sleeper and the deal with Lex. Two things he has yet fessin' up to Chloe about. Jimmy is not just a poor victim here. He wasn't perfect.

Although Jimmy was right about the relationship in this episode.

DestinyAw8s
03-20-2009, 07:40 PM
As for Jimmy jumping headlong into the marriage, I seem to remember Jimmy being all for them forgetting about his proposal in Odessey. It would have been the perfect opportunity for Chloe to slow it down and rethink the whole thing. But did she? Don't think so.

Jimmy's problem is his marriage to Chloe. Maybe that's fixed now, and he can go on to being the Jimmy we all know and love.

Sports72Xtrm
03-20-2009, 07:46 PM
Davis can have her. Chloe always takes Jimmy for granted and now she ruined his life. I hope he signed a prenup. Jimmy has to focus and fix up so he can get back to his iconic self so he can leave this mess behind him.

thehenry89
03-20-2009, 07:50 PM
I hope he signed a prenup. .

:rotfl: Jimmy's broke and so is chloe a prenup would have been kinda pointless. ITA with everything else though, jimbo's better off without chloe and visa versa.

Jill
03-20-2009, 07:58 PM
Jimmy's my new hero :lol: if clark had the cahones to say something similar to lana all those years ago when she was dating lex we wouldn't have been subjected to 2 years of horrific angst and some of the worst televison in the history of visual media.

Amen! :lol:
So true...

Smallville6
03-20-2009, 08:10 PM
Nothing is wrong with Jimmy, it was Chloe! Jimmy was amazing in this episode!

borednow
03-20-2009, 09:12 PM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

Yes because after major surgery and then being tazed ... let me repeat that tazed, that could kill someone who had just been in as bad a shape as Jimmy, Jimmy was so cruel to Chloe who had earner herself so many niceties... :rolleyes:

rebecavaldez
03-20-2009, 09:14 PM
I loved how Jimmy's character was in the episode, but that last line was just wrong. But I do get where he is coming from.

Brain WT
03-20-2009, 10:17 PM
I agree that it needed to be said but him saying marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life was cold plain and simple.

BULLITT
03-21-2009, 07:19 PM
Chloe

melissan02
03-21-2009, 07:20 PM
Chloe

Well, that pretty much sums it up!:rotfl:

BULLITT
03-21-2009, 07:27 PM
Well, that pretty much sums it up!:rotfl:
;)

Night_Hawk90
03-21-2009, 07:31 PM
I agree that it needed to be said but him saying marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life was cold plain and simple.

i actually laughed in that scene, call me cold but that was the funniest thing i saw the whole episode.

melissan02
03-21-2009, 07:41 PM
i actually laughed in that scene, call me cold but that was the funniest thing i saw the whole episode.

Don't feel bad for laughing, I was Jimmy's one person cheering section during that scene!:lol:
I mean, I was doing fistpumps for the guy!!!!:p

CLOISMAN
03-21-2009, 08:16 PM
Marrying Jimmy was CHLOE's biggest mistake. She should have realized that her work with Clark, The Justice League and the Isis Foundation would never allow her to enjoy a "normal" marriage. Secondly, Jimmy has shown time and again that he's too insecure about Chloe having male friends. It's been that way with Clark, now Davis....who's next Oliver and the JL?

Chloe's being pulled in a thousand directions. I don't blame her if she herself doesn't snap. Clark jumps on her ass, Jimmy does too and Lana always patronized her. The only person who really treats her as an equal seems to be Oliver. I'll always be a die-hard Chloe fan, bottom line.

lastdaughterofkrypton
03-21-2009, 10:27 PM
Yes because after major surgery and then being tazed ... let me repeat that tazed, that could kill someone who had just been in as bad a shape as Jimmy, Jimmy was so cruel to Chloe who had earner herself so many niceties... :rolleyes:

Yeah because Tazers are killer weapons on Smallville and Jimmy was on a wheelchair and wearing bandages on the episode...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sports72Xtrm
03-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Yeah because Tazers are killer weapons on Smallville and Jimmy was on a wheelchair and wearing bandages on the episode...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

But he really was hurt and is still hurting. To me he still looked injured. He hasn't fully recuperated...that is if he can ever back to 100% where he will no longer be feeling the pain in his torso. Did you see Doomsday shred right through him in Bride? I'm just saying he is still hurting. I mean it's not like he should be seen as a wimp because he was still injured.

Kryptochloe
03-22-2009, 01:40 AM
But he really was hurt and is still hurting. To me he still looked injured. He hasn't fully recuperated...that is if he can ever back to 100% where he will no longer be feeling the pain in his torso. Did you see Doomsday shred right through him in Bride? I'm just saying he is still hurting. I mean it's not like he should be seen as a wimp because he was still injured.

For me, on this episode Jimmy looks more psychologically wounded than

physically.
The guy ran through all the corridors of the hospital, fought the nurses with strenght, and even made it to ran out the hospital without a problem! Which physical pain we were seeing there?? He clearly was using meds to calm his anxiety..

(Actually I blame the writers for this. After that kind of injuries, no one could have done what he did after only 5 weeks of recovery).

smallvillerocks45
03-22-2009, 01:49 AM
Jimmy's words were certainly harsh, but his anger wasn't misguided. Why would Chloe marry a man she can't put her full trust into? It's not even that she thinks Jimmy's too "drugged up," its the fact that she puts a blind eye towards anything negative related to Davis, and her own husband's word is rendered invalid. What happened to the reporter in Chloe - even before she found out Clark's secret she dared to investigate him and came very close to losing his friendship because of her curiosity... but Davis is just automatically trustworthy and walks on water - he's as mysterious as they get, but she seems to find that attractive. I don't get it... neither does Jimmy and I can't blame him for being angry.

Fish1941
03-22-2009, 02:03 AM
It seems like if Jimmy has taken over the "why can't you just tell me the truth" roll from Lana.


I'm going to blunt here. I'm not a big fan of Lana or the Clana relationship. But Clark was just as much to blame as Lana for the crap in their relationship. His insistence on maintaining his secret . . . even when she suspected there was something different about him, hindered their relationship a lot.

And now, Chloe is pulling the same crap with Jimmy. Both she and Clark had a chance to tell the truth about Clark, but for some stupid reason, they decided to hold their tongues and pretend that Jimmy was imagining things. And now came this situation with Davis. I think that Jimmy simply had enough. Period. And let's face it. Chloe doesn't love him that much. Not really. Her speech to Clark about her and Jimmy creating some ideal marriage was at worst, disturbing.

lastdaughterofkrypton
03-22-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm going to blunt here. I'm not a big fan of Lana or the Clana relationship. But Clark was just as much to blame as Lana for the crap in their relationship. His insistence on maintaining his secret . . . even when she suspected there was something different about him, hindered their relationship a lot.

And now, Chloe is pulling the same crap with Jimmy. Both she and Clark had a chance to tell the truth about Clark, but for some stupid reason, they decided to hold their tongues and pretend that Jimmy was imagining things. And now came this situation with Davis. I think that Jimmy simply had enough. Period. And let's face it. Chloe doesn't love him that much. Not really. Her speech to Clark about her and Jimmy creating some ideal marriage was at worst, disturbing.

I think that Clana was a horrible mess for various reasons and I agree both are to blame I do agree with Chloe pulling the same crap and I agree that she doesn't love him that much but Jimmy knew that she didn't fully trusted him before proposing so he is also to blame for this ill conceived marriage.
I agree about the ideal marriage line being strange but I do think that Chloe is giving everything she can to make it work...the thing is that everything she can give is not her 100% :(. Again both made a huge mistake as huge as Lana marrying Lex and I always knew that Chimmy was going to end messy like this. I just don't get why everybody is okay with siding with Jimmy if IMO both are to blame for this so that is why I defend Chloe to balance things out.

Kcirtap41B
03-23-2009, 05:06 PM
Jimmy had a legitimate reason to be pissed off.
A.) He's hurt and on drugs. That will screw your mind up some.
B.) He knows for a FACT that Davis murdered the man in the EMS vehicle.
We can all talk about Chloe screwing Jimmy over in the past or vice versa (i.e. Jimmy's insecurities).
But there's no way one can overlook that Jimmy saw a murder, tried to capture the murderer, and is foiled by his own wife who doesn't believe or support him and seems to only support the actual murderer.
How would you feel?

Selina
03-23-2009, 05:19 PM
I've only just seen the episode and all I can say was Jimmy was totally justified with his outburst to Chloe.

I've always been fond of Chloe but it's been really hard to defend her actions lately. Jimmy is her husband and she constantly treats him as sloppy seconds. It's not on.

Wanting to see the good in Davis is one thing but totally taking a blind eye to her husbands claims is another.

His words were harsh but they were true. Chloe, as much as I like her, had it coming.

workshyslacker
03-23-2009, 05:20 PM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

According to him, it was his marriage. :\

Granted, his rant needn't have happened in full view of strangers, thereby humiliating Chloe. However, I do think he was hurting, and lashed out because he felt betrayed. The man's been through a lot; his chest smashed in by the Incredible Hulk, a near death experience, everyone disbelieving his suspicions about Davis (including his wife), and being assaulted by Davis in the ambulance with a drug-filled syringe. He's not a happy bunny.

When no one appears to be on your side, some people look for escape, perhaps through chemical means. I feel sorry for both of them.

And you don't have to be on drugs to lash out and say hurtful things. This kind of rant can happen in a marriage going through a rocky patch.

Minela
03-23-2009, 05:29 PM
I he was right in everything he said, but his wording could have been a bit more gentle.

That being said, I don't blame him one bit. Sometimes a person reaches the limit of crap they can take, and they just burst.

Word. :cool:

Jaded Wolf
03-23-2009, 05:41 PM
Hey guys what the heck is Jimmys problem. That was one of the cruliest things I have heard his character say. I beleive it was "marring you was the biggest mistake of my life". Either that boy needs a good ass woopen or he is so drug up he can't think strait. What do you guys think?

His problem was his supposed wife pretty much castrated him by taking the side of someone other than her husband. Jimmy's problem was instead of trusting him, Chloe would rather trust Davis. Davis whom she met at the beginning of this season but had been courting Jimmy since, what, season six? Jimmy's problem was Chloe was treating him like he was crazy and apologizing to the murderer about her "crazy husband". Jimmy's problem was a manipulative, lying woman who never really loved Jimmy at all.

The real question is: What the heck is Chloe's problem?

superjude
03-23-2009, 06:28 PM
Jimmy is mad!! Mad as a hornet!! He has every right to be. Chloe has not been a good wife at all. To side with a person that you barely know over your husband, that is nearly intolerable. I sincerely hope that things work out for Chloe.

Wildfire
03-23-2009, 07:35 PM
Bout time Jimmy. In the end he was right. Chole trusts other people more than she does her own husband. No marriage can survive that. Then add Davis KILLING people and she believes Davis over her own husband. Jimmy has been understanding and supportive where she has been secretive and putting other people before him.

Jimmy though needing help with the drugs is right. Chole does not have her prioritizes straight.

Dyanara
03-23-2009, 07:42 PM
Marrying Jimmy was CHLOE's biggest mistake. She should have realized that her work with Clark, The Justice League and the Isis Foundation would never allow her to enjoy a "normal" marriage. Secondly, Jimmy has shown time and again that he's too insecure about Chloe having male friends. It's been that way with Clark, now Davis....who's next Oliver and the JL?

I feel sorry for Chloe for convincing herself that she really loved Jimmy like that. I dont know what compelled her to marry him, maybe its just the "girl always loves her first" syndrome. Jimmy is way too immature to be married to someone like Chloe who does what she does, and Chloe seems to be in love with the idea of being in love with Jimmy.