View Full Version : Why is Sam Witwer always trying to be Dexter?
borednow
03-20-2009, 01:22 AM
Anyone know?
Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 01:31 AM
took me a few seconds:lol:
although its not entirely acurate, Sam was trying to be the Ice Truck Killer, not Dexter:D
SuperFan85
03-20-2009, 01:31 AM
Well, given that he did appear on a few episodes of "Dexter" in it's first season, I'm sure, some of Dexter's vigilante serial killer justice to suppress the monster within, rubbed off on him...:P
Kschreck
03-20-2009, 01:32 AM
I actually like the direction they are taking his character in. :D
Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 01:46 AM
I dont, there´s a diference between Villans and anti-heroes and I was hopping for a Villan. Its not that I dont apreciate a Villan with layers but again, I dont like this simpathetic/apologetic arc they are giving Doomsday, it was fine in the first half but now it seems as though towards the end, if Clark kills Doomsday it would sort of make him look bad.
Supsfan
03-20-2009, 01:48 AM
I dont, there´s a diference between Villans and anti-heroes and I was hopping for a Villan. Its not that I dont apreciate a Villan with layers but again, I dont like this simpathetic/apologetic arc they are giving Doomsday, it was fine in the first half but now it seems as though towards the end, if Clark kills Doomsday it would sort of make him look bad.
Lionel the first 3 seasons was definantly the best bad guy this show has had. He was evil and did bad things with no regrets. I am not a fan of the tormented bad guy who is fighting with himself what to do.
Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 01:58 AM
Lionel the first 3 seasons was definantly the best bad guy this show has had. He was evil and did bad things with no regrets. I am not a fan of the tormented bad guy who is fighting with himself what to do.
Me neither, specially when said Villan is sort of bound to be killed by Clark.
See what people dont get is that, Doomsday was the first time that Superman killing was actually sort of justified, to the point it was never an issue or a regret, like when he killed Zod in the pocket of time. Doomsday was a beast with no reason, no way to imprison, only destruction on its mind, the only way to stop it was to kill it. If they end up having Clark in Smallville Kill this Doomsday it wont be entirely justified since Davis was trying to do good, cause the writers decided to portray him more as a human anti-hero, sort of Hulk on a rage overdose than a Villan.
thehenry89
03-20-2009, 02:03 AM
I like the accent he did for that prison inmate in Bones, a southen accent would have been tight for doomsday :lol:
borednow
03-20-2009, 02:09 AM
took me a few seconds:lol:
although its not entirely acurate, Sam was trying to be the Ice Truck Killer, not Dexter:D
Right! Sorry! :lol: My bad guys...
Sports72Xtrm
03-20-2009, 02:13 AM
I like the direction too. I mean, not every super villian is a person who hates the world and everyone in it. Some are just compelled to do it. Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and Doomsday has to kill. It's a lot more interesting than this mindless beast weapon guy that Superman hates and fights for no reason other than being like a force of nature where DD is supposed to kill everyone in sight. This brings more layers to a villian.
borednow
03-20-2009, 02:22 AM
I love 3D villians but DD really shouldn't be one of them... Superman has to kill this guy, if he's tortured, well that makes it awkward on the purity of Superman...
Imzadia
03-20-2009, 02:22 AM
They wanted us to form an Emotional Attachment to Davis, therefore taking Pity on him when the Beast takes over. Ewww! They want us to see him as a 'Victim'. IMO, they never should've brought the 'Once Upon A Time' mindless killing animal to Smallville. The FoS told Clark that "Doom" represented a being who was called the "Ultimate Destroyer", so I just think that it's too soon in Clark's life to bring him up against Anything that's called "Ultimate" bad thingy.
Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 02:26 AM
I like the direction too. I mean, not every super villian is a person who hates the world and everyone in it. Some are just compelled to do it. Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and Doomsday has to kill. It's a lot more interesting than this mindless beast weapon guy that Superman hates and fights for no reason other than being like a force of nature where DD is supposed to kill everyone in sight. This brings more layers to a villian.
If they wanted a Villan with more layers, then they shouldnt have picked Doomsday. It could have worked out great with all things constant, except not being Doomsday and call him "the human/beast" or "kryll the benevolent killing machine" "the monster vigilante" or you know what ever but the second they chose Doomsday, the name MUST match the villan, specially when there´s already a story and a reputation behind the name.
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I love 3D villians but DD really shouldn't be one of them... Superman has to kill this guy, if he's tortured, well that makes it awkward on the purity of Superman...
exactly
borednow
03-20-2009, 02:30 AM
Not that I don't personally want to kill him at this point... what he did to Jimmy... grrrr... but Superman is suppose to be better then me. *sigh*
Sports72Xtrm
03-20-2009, 02:58 AM
If they wanted a Villan with more layers, then they shouldnt have picked Doomsday. It could have worked out great with all things constant, except not being Doomsday and call him "the human/beast" or "kryll the benevolent killing machine" "the monster vigilante" or you know what ever but the second they chose Doomsday, the name MUST match the villan, specially when there´s already a story and a reputation behind the name.
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exactly
He is Doomsday though. His very purpose was to be a weapon and conquer the world for the Kryptonians. It's his destiny. That's why he was made. He's a victim, but he's still dangerous and thus a villian. Maybe Clark doesn't kill him and actually does something to try to save him? Or maybe he doesn't. But these are the tough choices heroes are forced to make everyday and it is actually a realistic dilemma for a hero where the answer isn't always knock him out and throw him in jail. Was it any less wrong before Doomsday was just depicted as a mindless beast? Would it then be ok to kill it? Doomsday has always been a danger to everyone, but I always got the feeling that Doomsday, whether beast or human, was still a sentient being. Similar to a lion, it has feelings and emotions probably. But it's in their nature to harm their prey, i.e. the people that Clark is protecting.
How do you go against that? I like it because they humanize a lot of major villains. That's a major theme of Smallville. Not everyone was born evil. That's what they did with Lex, that's what they are trying to depict with Plastique, and what they are doing with DD. That even if you do bad things you you can change your ways if they wanted to. They just need to be "saved". With Doomsday, he's always been kind of a weapon for somebody. I'm sure that's what General Zod had in mind for him.
chlo-el
03-20-2009, 04:32 AM
Well, like Dexter he's doing the best with what he's given. He's a serial killer that kills the bad guys. In this ep he didn't think he could control the beast any other way then to kill bad guys.
Harrison_Bergeron
03-20-2009, 01:02 PM
Does anyone think that the SV Doomsday character is supposed to be based off of this storyline?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_%28comics%29#Our_Worlds_at_War
Killing bad guys, but not actually being a good guy?
SupermanRox
03-20-2009, 01:28 PM
Dexter is wicked. I guess what really makes him creepy is that he is sooooo normal but then he just systematically kills people regularly like he's ordering take out. No biggie for him. He makes my skin crawl.
Does anyone think that the SV Doomsday character is supposed to be based off of this storyline?
from your link:
With his newfound intelligence, Doomsday managed to escape Apokolips and return to Earth. Upon his arrival, Doomsday encountered a series of emotions previously alien to him — love, compassion and kindness. Exploring the full abilities of these new emotions, Doomsday made his way to Metropolis once more, though not in the destructive manner he had before.
To answer your question, maybe in the sense that he has developed the ability to feel emotions and think.
Kevin24
03-20-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't feel for Davis at all. He is a straight up murderer and he lost all that innocence to me the moment he tried to cover up his killings. He is just like Brainiac but they both aren't humans but experiments gone horribly wrong. In Davis's cause gone completely right depending on what side you are on.
Harrison_Bergeron
03-20-2009, 09:02 PM
To answer your question, maybe in the sense that he has developed the ability to feel emotions and think.
I meant the part about Doomsday being a brutal good guy that kills bad guys.
Sunny8
03-20-2009, 09:16 PM
I... I dont like this simpathetic/apologetic arc they are giving Doomsday, it was fine in the first half but now it seems as though towards the end, if Clark kills Doomsday it would sort of make him look bad.
I don't think so. Doomsday is a monster. Now Bizarro I felt sorry for, because he was like a kid that did not know any better (though he could be a monster too). I don't feel sorry for Davis/Doomsday. He is not like Clark with the dual identities. He is more like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Tebow15
03-20-2009, 09:19 PM
I hate Davis. I don't have any emotional attachment to him and I think the PS3 is trying to make everyone feel that way.
borednow
03-26-2009, 01:11 AM
Before this episode Davis actually kinda had some sympathy from me...
But now the manipulations... what an ass...
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