Mistakes, Plotholes & Inconsistencies in Turbulence

[xrayvision]

I noticed how there was a scene between Chloe & Davis where Davis said how he told Chloe he moved on. This is a mistake, because that conversation was in the first timeline of Infamous, which never happened after Clark went back in time.

[Kschreck]

Maybe it happened again in Offscreenville. DUN DUN DUN!

[deanropi]

If Clark didn't fly, then the force of fall should have killed Tess.

[xrayvision]

If Clark didn't fly, then the force of fall should have killed Tess.

Yeah. I mentioned this in another thread too. It's just ridiculous. We are being short changed with Clark's heroics because:

1. He has no costume and runs through as a streak taking any enjoyment from seeing his heroics

2. Flight & any attempt at flight is still being avoided, forcing TPTB not to show his heroics to avoid being widely criticized

[natbug]

Xrayvision, I agree.

However, I did read in other posts, maybe s7 ep "Action", that there is some kind of aura about Clark/Superman that protects people he's holding from these death problems.

Also, I like to think of Smallville and Superman as fantasy instead of science fiction. The one thing that separates real science fiction from fantasy IMO is that the laws of physics and nature still need to apply in scifi. Whereas, in fantasy, these laws can go out the window and you can make up whatever rules you want, as long as these rules are consistent throughout the story. Whether Smallville is consistent or not, I'm not sure. As for as people not dying while Clark is holding and protecting them from different dangers, this seems to be consistent.

Also, I was thinking about it last night, seeing Clark as a streak isn't much different than watching Lee Majors running around as the 6 mill $ man. Except Clark is faster and the methods of the fx are different.

I still proudly love Smallville!

:)

[Dar'el]

yeah at this point he's gonna be the flash, not superman, how's that for a plothole, the Flash is really clark kent hahahahahaha

[SGuthrie27]

Whoa, you're right, xrayvision. That's a pretty huge error -- and the second time they've referenced or shown something that only happened in another timeline -- like the picture of Lana and Clark that was seen in one episode this season (can't remember which) and featured them at Jonathan's campaign party together, which only happened the first time around in "Reckoning," right before Lana died and Clark changed the timeline there, too.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[stenochick]

I think that Clark is not being honest when he tells Chloe and whoever else that he is not "flying."

He never creates huge crators with his landings like Hancock did (lol!). He has more control over gravity's effects and therefore his ability to control his acceleration than he is letting on.

He can call them leaps or jumps but they are getting too elegant for him not to consider that he has the latent ability to hover and fly. He just needs to practice and perfect flying.

The bigger question is why would he not want to fly? I read in a post that perhaps he will no longer feel like a human if he starts flying. There could be something there.

I just think it is time. He seemed so pumped at the beginning of Turbulence when he was telling Chloe about his RBB exploits. The double identity seems to have lifted a big burden from him so that he can actually enjoy his "blurring." How much more of a rush would he get from flying!

[newbaggy]

If Clark didn't fly, then the force of fall should have killed Tess.

This reminds me of an episode of The Big Bang Theory where Sheldon points out that, in Superman, when Lois Lane falls out of the helicopter, the force of Superman's arms impacting against her body when he catches her should have split her in three!

He probably needs to get out more(!)

[BULLITT]

Like Chloe said, Clark' emphatically trusting people get's him into trouble.

"oooh Clark, I looked....no parachutes"
And the title of biggest boob for not using what your folks gave you........ Goes to Clark Kent for non use of his Xray vision.

Tell him what he won Don Pardo.

Mr.Kent you've won yet another installment of women with ulterior motives giving you bags and bags of drama.:rolleyes:

[ClarkyBoy14]

I noticed how there was a scene between Chloe & Davis where Davis said how he told Chloe he moved on. This is a mistake, because that conversation was in the first timeline of Infamous, which never happened after Clark went back in time.

I thought in "Infamous," it was Chloe who said that they need to move on? So would Davis be refering to Offscreenville, or something from a different episode that I'm forgetting about?

[madcatlady]

I think that Clark is not being honest when he tells Chloe and whoever else that he is not "flying."

He never creates huge crators with his landings like Hancock did (lol!). He has more control over gravity's effects and therefore his ability to control his acceleration than he is letting on.

He can call them leaps or jumps but they are getting too elegant for him not to consider that he has the latent ability to hover and fly. He just needs to practice and perfect flying.

The bigger question is why would he not want to fly? I read in a post that perhaps he will no longer feel like a human if he starts flying. There could be something there.

I just think it is time. He seemed so pumped at the beginning of Turbulence when he was telling Chloe about his RBB exploits. The double identity seems to have lifted a big burden from him so that he can actually enjoy his "blurring." How much more of a rush would he get from flying!

I wonder myself if he's being completely honest about flying. Maybe I'm still in denial.

[xrayvision]

I thought in "Infamous," it was Chloe who said that they need to move on? So would Davis be refering to Offscreenville, or something from a different episode that I'm forgetting about?

It was, but that was in the 1st timeline, which was erased.

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Like Chloe said, Clark' emphatically trusting people get's him into trouble.

"oooh Clark, I looked....no parachutes"
And the title of biggest boob for not using what your folks gave you........ Goes to Clark Kent for non use of his Xray vision.

Tell him what he won Don Pardo.

Mr.Kent you've won yet another installment of women with ulterior motives giving you bags and bags of drama.:rolleyes:

I hope he was smart enough to superspeed to the nearest airport in Phoenix and steal a parachute to cover his ass.

I also hope he made sure the plane didn't kill anyone when it crashed.

[Nitrous]

When it comes to a show about an alien with superpowers arriving on Earth, I think that we can let it slide when the laws of physics are stretched a few times lol. If you want to get real technical, Clark shouldn't be able to carry anyone at super speed either, since the human body wouldn't be able to with stand the force of moving at that level of speed with no protection around it.

[txluvstom]

I hope nobody minds if I pull away from the flying subject for a second to see if anyone caught a mistake in one of the Clark/Tess scenes. I'll give you a hint. It occurs just after the explosion on the plane when Clark and Tess go in seperate directions. But it's rectified when they reconnect again.

[old guy]

I think that Clark is not being honest when he tells Chloe and whoever else that he is not "flying."

He never creates huge crators with his landings like Hancock did (lol!). He has more control over gravity's effects and therefore his ability to control his acceleration than he is letting on.

He can call them leaps or jumps but they are getting too elegant for him not to consider that he has the latent ability to hover and fly. He just needs to practice and perfect flying.

The bigger question is why would he not want to fly? I read in a post that perhaps he will no longer feel like a human if he starts flying. There could be something there.

I just think it is time. He seemed so pumped at the beginning of Turbulence when he was telling Chloe about his RBB exploits. The double identity seems to have lifted a big burden from him so that he can actually enjoy his "blurring." How much more of a rush would he get from flying!

I agree. Dialog should have gotten something like:

Clark: "I didn't fly. I jumped.....I think?"

Chloe: gives puzzled look

Clark: "Well I know I jumped out of the plane. But somehow I was able to slow down as we got closer to the ground."

Chloe: "Clark Kent defying the laws of gravity? Maybe you should focus a little more on that..."

Clark: changes subject "So how is Jimmy doing?"

[e-µ-i]

No holes. No mistakes. Clark maybe glided towards the ground - or he did the same thing when saving Lana and landing on a car. Maybe he even blew to the ground below so he could slow himself down...tons of ways, no money to show it.
This episode was written brilliantly, and we all knew that CK wouldn't fly in this epy. So...no surprises there, except the ending. Jimmy rules ! :)

[txluvstom]

There was a unscripted mistake,but I guess nobody wants to play.

[NoSupeForYou]

How about the completely different planes from the flying scenes before and after the Clark/Tess scene when the trouble breaks out. The first plane looked like a tiny jet that maybe carries a few people. The second plane was larger and different. Just look at the wings. The first had what looked like fuel tanks at the ends, the second had vertical wingtips.

[txluvstom]

The mistake I notice was one of those "now-you-see-it-now-you-don't" kind of things,but in this case it's the opposite.

[cdpittenger]

When it comes to people and having superpowers, you automatically have to suspend your belief in physics. Example: Clark would have to be barefoot constantly because his shoes would instantly melt from the friction of running so fast. Defying physics is not a plothole or mistake...it's just usually ignored in science fiction/fantasy.

[ox007]

I wish Smallville showed us more things that happen after Clark saves somebody, for example in this episode they could have showed how he lands and maybe even show him getting a parachute on ground to cover his tracks. The show would be more interesting IMO if it consisted of more action scenes, because lately it's become more of a dialogue (soap opera) show than an action-dialogue show, I suppose mainly because of the budget cuts..

[stenochick]

I agree. Dialog should have gotten something like:

Clark: "I didn't fly. I jumped.....I think?"

Chloe: gives puzzled look

Clark: "Well I know I jumped out of the plane. But somehow I was able to slow down as we got closer to the ground."

Chloe: "Clark Kent defying the laws of gravity? Maybe you should focus a little more on that..."

Clark: changes subject "So how is Jimmy doing?"

Yes. How hard would that be? No increase in the FX budget needed.

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I hope nobody minds if I pull away from the flying subject for a second to see if anyone caught a mistake in one of the Clark/Tess scenes. I'll give you a hint. It occurs just after the explosion on the plane when Clark and Tess go in seperate directions. But it's rectified when they reconnect again.

Txluvstom, I am not able to rewatch the scene. Please tell us what the faux pas is. I am very intrigued.

I will try to retrieve from my deleted list on my TiVo and watch the scene again.

[txluvstom]

Okay,if you must know. After the explosion,you see Clark look out the window and then you see Tess' face out her window. When the camera comes back into the plane,Clark gets up and your can CLEARLY see that his BELT is missing from his pants. Clark goes to the cockpit,Tess checks the parachutes,and when they meet up again,Clark's BELT is back on! I've replayed it over and freezed it. Check it out.

[stenochick]

Okay,if you must know. After the explosion,you see Clark look out the window and then you see Tess' face out her window. When the camera comes back into the plane,Clark gets up and your can CLEARLY see that his BELT is missing from his pants. Clark goes to the cockpit,Tess checks the parachutes,and when they meet up again,Clark's BELT is back on! I've replayed it over and freezed it. Check it out.

Thanks! I watched that scene over and over and could not find anything. You are very observant. Until I rewatch it, I am going to blame not noticing it on the fact that Smallville is aired on my TV in fullscreen instead of widescreen (although a belt probably would not be on the sides of a screen). I guess while I watch Tom's face, you are watching his crotch! :lol:

[Welling_is_pretty]

Like Chloe said, Clark' emphatically trusting people get's him into trouble.

"oooh Clark, I looked....no parachutes"
And the title of biggest boob for not using what your folks gave you........ Goes to Clark Kent for non use of his Xray vision.

Tell him what he won Don Pardo.

Mr.Kent you've won yet another installment of women with ulterior motives giving you bags and bags of drama.:rolleyes:
:rotfl: I had that thought too! I was wondering why he didn't scan the plane with his xray vision.

He just trusts Tess...?

[txluvstom]

Thanks! I watched that scene over and over and could not find anything. You are very observant. Until I rewatch it, I am going to blame not noticing it on the fact that Smallville is aired on my TV in fullscreen instead of widescreen (although a belt probably would not be on the sides of a screen). I guess while I watch Tom's face, you are watching his crotch! :lol:
Damn striaght!!!!! I also notice it happened AFTER Tess/Cassidy knelt down to him. Smart girl.:p

[ClarkyBoy14]

I guess while I watch Tom's face, you are watching his crotch! :lol:

:rotfl:

[twirl0408]

Okay,if you must know. After the explosion,you see Clark look out the window and then you see Tess' face out her window. When the camera comes back into the plane,Clark gets up and your can CLEARLY see that his BELT is missing from his pants. Clark goes to the cockpit,Tess checks the parachutes,and when they meet up again,Clark's BELT is back on! I've replayed it over and freezed it. Check it out.

You are so right! I can't believe you spotted that. Great job.
:rotfl:

[devilneedsaride]

Okay,if you must know. After the explosion,you see Clark look out the window and then you see Tess' face out her window. When the camera comes back into the plane,Clark gets up and your can CLEARLY see that his BELT is missing from his pants. Clark goes to the cockpit,Tess checks the parachutes,and when they meet up again,Clark's BELT is back on! I've replayed it over and freezed it. Check it out.

What I want to know now is why on earth Tom Welling would need to take his belt off in between takes while shooting an episode.

[alejandrita439]

Originally Posted by txluvstom
Okay,if you must know. After the explosion,you see Clark look out the window and then you see Tess' face out her window. When the camera comes back into the plane,Clark gets up and your can CLEARLY see that his BELT is missing from his pants. Clark goes to the cockpit,Tess checks the parachutes,and when they meet up again,Clark's BELT is back on! I've replayed it over and freezed it. Check it out.


good catch :eek:

[txluvstom]

What I want to know now is why on earth Tom Welling would need to take his belt off in between takes while shooting an episode.
On a serious note,since most of the time they film scenes out of sequence,it could of been as simple as this. If he was ill during filming,then he could stop filming to rest in his trailer and it was just a slight oversight. Maybe they just wanted to finish the scene quickly so he could go home. I guess it's just speculation until maybe we get an explanation in a commentary.

[DJ Doena]

This reminds me of an episode of The Big Bang Theory where Sheldon points out that, in Superman, when Lois Lane falls out of the helicopter, the force of Superman's arms impacting against her body when he catches her should have split her in three!

He probably needs to get out more(!)
But the TBBT guys got it wrong. Leonard argued that he (Superman) could have slowed down. And Sheldon argued "In what space sir, in what space?" and argued that he was "two feet above the ground". But in the actual Superman movie Superman catched Lois in the height of the 20th floor, not just above the ground.

But that's OT. ;)

[stenochick]

Damn striaght!!!!! I also notice it happened AFTER Tess/Cassidy knelt down to him. Smart girl.:p

:rotfl:

I can't wait for the deleted scenes on the season 8 DVD!!!:eek:

[e-µ-i]

Ok, is it me or should the situation in which Clark smashed the door of a plane result in a massive change of pressure, resulting everything in the plane to fly towards the hole, in this case the door ?
The same thing like in 'Crusade', when Clark (Kal-el) smashed the door of a Lex' plane to get one of the stones...

[skylar]

There are always mistakes on the VILLE thats how it goes.

[Bizarrolover]

Ok, is it me or should the situation in which Clark smashed the door of a plane result in a massive change of pressure, resulting everything in the plane to fly towards the hole, in this case the door ?
The same thing like in 'Crusade', when Clark (Kal-el) smashed the door of a Lex' plane to get one of the stones...

I think the pressure already changed when the pilot's cabin exploded, that's why the oxygen masks were down. Also, if this was planned in advance by Tess, then the pilot was flying at a lower altitude so the change of pressure wouldn't hurt her. After all, she had to be conscious to see what Clark would do.

I think the biggest plothole of that scene is how the pilot managed to cause an explosion in his cabin and escape through that tiny whole in the glass without hurting himself badly. He didn't even have bruise in his face when he came for his money.

[optinox]

He's had the ability since season 1, but as for controlling gravity I think he has displayed that in some ways.

First off his superjumps are controlled, when he jumped into the building where he found davis with blood on him, he super jumped vertically...for him to have jumuped up and over the ledge would've been extremely hard from where he was standing, it would've made sense if he was standing further away from the building, but he jumped straight up, over the ledge and inside the building. He did a similar thing with lana in the fortress, not only will power but confidence will do this, so its possible he's just figuring out now what triggers the ability.

When clark fell from the rocket he made a loud bang...therefore with Tess he should've made a loud bang as well, unless he slowed himself down. As for his aura, well it protects people when he shields them with his body, but as for the force from the impact when clark lands on the gound, Tess should've been dead...but then again its just like how he super speeds and carries someone, since Force=MxA, so theoretically the people he saves should be dead, or hurt. My only guess is he takes a slight pause just before he grabs them, but does it so fast that it looks like he's superspeeding in one motion. As for Tess and in the air, his only alternative for a smooth impact, would be if he floated just before hitting the ground.

Is it possibly clarks been practicing but hasn't told anyone, maybe he's come as far as hovering/floating...but still can't will himself to fly, its possible he's been hiding it, you'd think he'd want to learn since he's enjoying saving people as RBB, you'd think clark would be "superspeeeding is cool, but flying, heck ya!!!!" They just need to get him up there, 4-5 years of the teasing is fine, they've proved they can overhype up trailers, but i want to see them deliver and give the fans something to look forward too, especially after 8 long seasons.

[Lady Macbeth]

What I want to know now is why on earth Tom Welling would need to take his belt off in between takes while shooting an episode.
That's a good question. Maybe Tom's belt was a little tight and he felt more comfortable taking it off in between shots. I don't think that any of us are complaining. I'm sure that we all would love to see Tom take his belt off onscreen.:lol: