why is Chloe urging Clark to be a coward?

[dru-zod2501]

The mere hint that Tess might or might not know something in the vicinity of what could be Clark's secret, and Chloe thinks becoming a hermit is the best solution? He should just shrivel up and be selfish and undo everything he's worked for becuase Tess could possibly know something she could use against him in the future? That just made me mad :mad:

Just last week, when the barbarians were at the gates with their torches lit and swords drawn, Lois told him to rise above it and FIGHT BACK! Today there was no imminent threat but hiding seemed Logical? I don't think so. I don't think even Lana would've considered retreat at this point.

Incredibly out of character. Shame on you Ms. Sullivan. That's not what heroes do; you used to know that.

[cksidekick]

It's exactly what Clark's dad taught him to do. When the heat is on and someone is getting too close to the secret, you do your chores in human speed. Clark has finally quit doing that. Chloe's reaction was pretty standard for Smallville.

[rehana/chole]

give her a break it writer fault there maken her look dum an bad there trashing her chracter caus e they doont hav anyother chater 2 mest with every body now clark,lois jimmy justic L,legion lana story chole is diffrent an writer r get on my nervos cause there maken her look bad stop hate chole it writer fault there azz is

[BadToad]

The Chlark scenes in this episode drove me nuts. First she shows up to piss in his cheerios when he's obviously reasonably happy and feeling pretty good about himself, then she's encouraging him to stop being the RBB and quite the DP. I was glad that both times, Clark was nice about it, but stuck to his own council, and tried to steer Chloe back to her own life, and her own husband.

But, yeah, really aggravating scenes. IMO

[unfocused]

Chloe always wants to disagree with Clark. They are hardly ever on the same page this season.

But I agree that it was a preposterous notion to quit the Superhero business. Chloe, I am ashamed of you.

[Trudine]

I don’t think Chloe telling Clark to be a coward at all. Chloe saying the exact right thing because Tess is onto Clark. Tess is not going to quit trying find out Clark secret, and we see her in tonight episode go through drastic measures to find it out like purposely crashing a plane. At the end of the day Chloe is concern for Clark and of course she going to want to make sure he’s safe. Working for Tess at the end of the day is putting Clark secret at a huge risk especially since he changes into the red blue blur at the Daily Planet.ffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>

[Storm45]

Because Chloe is bad person.

[BadToad]

Whether Tess is on to Clark, or not, that shouldn't mean that Clark should stop doing what he's doing. Which, BTW, is helping people and saving people. Clark was right, not Chloe, in that he shouldn't stop what he's doing, now that he's embraced a purpose in his life. What good would it do to hide out if Tess knows the truth? What difference would it make? He wouldn't be anymore safe from her that way then if he continued on with being the RBB.

[latingirl]

I think that Chloe reaction was over protective, Like Johnathan, More than Chloe I loved the Clark's pro-active, No fears,

[wolverine316]

Unfortunately Chloe has been taking stupid pills all season.

[pizzahead2490]

chole is not a bad person but she has certanily making some questonable notions and actions this season that does make me question her character.

[myankskent]

Chloe is just all over the map this season on Smallville. To be honest, I never know what to expect from her from episode to episode. One episode she pushes Clark to become the red/blue blur to give people hope, the next she tells him to stop. One episode she tells Clark to go for it with Lana, the next he is warning Clark about Lois' feelings. Enough is enough already. Writers...pick a direction with Chloe and stay with it.

[dru-zod2501]

I don’t think Chloe telling Clark to be a coward at all. Chloe saying the exact right thing because Tess is onto Clark. Tess is not going to quit trying find out Clark secret, and we see her in tonight episode go through drastic measures to find it out like purposely crashing a plane. At the end of the day Chloe is concern for Clark and of course she going to want to make sure he’s safe. Working for Tess at the end of the day is putting Clark secret at a huge risk especially since he changes into the red blue blur at the Daily Planet.ffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>
That "playing it safe" attitude should've been left behind with high school, and I was fairly sure they had succeeded in doing that this season, till now

[Trudine]

There playing it safe, and then doing something that will cause Clark secret to get into the wrong hands. Clark needs to pay attention, and not be careless of Tess. Even if Clark not in high school he stilll has to be careful.

[Tebow15]

Chloe is going down a dark path and I think she will betray him before season end when she dies.

[dru-zod2501]

There playing it safe, and then doing something that will cause Clark secret to get into the wrong hands. Clark needs to pay attention, and not be careless of Tess. Even if Clark not in high school he stilll has to be careful.
that is my point. There's paying attention to your adversary, and hiding from your adversary. Chloe was advocating the latter.

[Amelie]

The mere hint that Tess might or might not know something in the vicinity of what could be Clark's secret, and Chloe thinks becoming a hermit is the best solution? He should just shrivel up and be selfish and undo everything he's worked for becuase Tess could possibly know something she could use against him in the future? That just made me mad :mad:

Just last week, when the barbarians were at the gates with their torches lit and swords drawn, Lois told him to rise above it and FIGHT BACK! Today there was no imminent threat but hiding seemed Logical? I don't think so. I don't think even Lana would've considered retreat at this point.

Incredibly out of character. Shame on you Ms. Sullivan. That's not what heroes do; you used to know that.

Thank you SO much for bringing this up. When I saw that scene I could not believe my ears. Totally out of character YET AGAIN for Chloe and this just makes me feel like PS3 are consciously trying to sabotage the Chloe character this season.

Lois was in the right to tell Clark to stay and fight because that's what you do. You fight. You don't just give up. But Chloe here? The situation wasn't that extreme. In fact, they hardly knew what Tess did know and yet Chloe wanted Clark to back out? To quit being the red and blue blur? Huh??

This season's Chloe is not Chloe from seasons past.

[DigitalKing]

So I guess Clark should mug for the cameras like he was doing in the beginning of the episode? He should play fast and loose with his secret? Honestly, I don't even know why I post here...

Just in case someone doesn't know what I'm talking about, in the beginning of the episode, Clark said he was purposefully going slower and in front of speed cameras so that people knew that he was the one doing the saving. In the early seasons he didn't have or need a persona, and that persona is what Chloe was telling him to get rid of.

[Amelie]

Chloe is just all over the map this season on Smallville. To be honest, I never know what to expect from her from episode to episode. One episode she pushes Clark to become the red/blue blur to give people hope, the next she tells him to stop. One episode she tells Clark to go for it with Lana, the next he is warning Clark about Lois' feelings. Enough is enough already. Writers...pick a direction with Chloe and stay with it.

Again. Great points. Chloe is changing her mind on so many things this season. And it's sad because it seems like PS3 are only using Chloe to promote OTHER character's agendas: Clark, Davis, Lana, Lois...

I have to ask myself, is this why they wanted AM in 22 episodes? To ruin her character? To make her cater to other characters? That makes me so mad. And you know, I really wished that PS3 had given Chloe an independent story arc that was about HER and not about Davis or Clark or Jimmy for that matter. :(

[Supsfan]

The Chlark scenes in this episode drove me nuts. First she shows up to piss in his cheerios when he's obviously reasonably happy and feeling pretty good about himself, then she's encouraging him to stop being the RBB and quite the DP. I was glad that both times, Clark was nice about it, but stuck to his own council, and tried to steer Chloe back to her own life, and her own husband.

But, yeah, really aggravating scenes. IMO

The Chloe/Clark scenes the past 2 weeks remind me of Jonathon/Clark scenes from earlier seasons and it just comes off bad. At least this week it wasn't a case of the lecture Chloe giving Clark was actually right and he looks like an idiot.



Unfortunately Chloe has been taking stupid pills all season.

It wasn't bad this episode but last episode her advice was good and didn't do any favors for Clark.


Chloe is just all over the map this season on Smallville. To be honest, I never know what to expect from her from episode to episode. One episode she pushes Clark to become the red/blue blur to give people hope, the next she tells him to stop. One episode she tells Clark to go for it with Lana, the next he is warning Clark about Lois' feelings. Enough is enough already. Writers...pick a direction with Chloe and stay with it.

Chloe has been that person who fills the role of "whatever the plot needs" for the past few seasons, guess it's hard to take that characteristic away from her

[SnowBird]

Chloe is very inconsistant this season. First she tells Clark not to hurt her cousin and in another episode she is okay with Clark and Lana. Chloe tells Clark it is okay to have a dual identity when Jimmy had the picture of him as the RBB. Now she tells him to cool it. I'm really beginning to wonder about Chloe and her advice. Clark better do what he thinks best and not listen to Chloe for now.

[DigitalKing]

So because Chloe wants Clark to be with Lana (the girl he loves) without leading Lois on, she's all over the place? Because when Clark was giving people hope, she wanted him to be the RBB but when he's jeopardizing his secret it might be a good idea to slow down a bit, she's inconsistent?

Someone please explain this.

[unex||den||adel]

The mere hint that Tess might or might not know something in the vicinity of what could be Clark's secret, and Chloe thinks becoming a hermit is the best solution? He should just shrivel up and be selfish and undo everything he's worked for becuase Tess could possibly know something she could use against him in the future? That just made me mad :mad:

Just last week, when the barbarians were at the gates with their torches lit and swords drawn, Lois told him to rise above it and FIGHT BACK! Today there was no imminent threat but hiding seemed Logical? I don't think so. I don't think even Lana would've considered retreat at this point.

Incredibly out of character. Shame on you Ms. Sullivan. That's not what heroes do; you used to know that.

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[dru-zod2501]

So I guess Clark should mug for the cameras like he was doing in the beginning of the episode? He should play fast and loose with his secret? Honestly, I don't even know why I post here...

Just in case someone doesn't know what I'm talking about, in the beginning of the episode, Clark said he was purposefully going slower and in front of speed cameras so that people knew that he was the one doing the saving. In the early seasons he didn't have or need a persona, and that persona is what Chloe was telling him to get rid of.
:rolleyes:Is that not what he does when he becomes Superman? Only then there won't be any blur to hide behind, so why not start now?

In the early seasons he was mainly protecting his own people. Those days are over he understands he's responsible for more than that now. He can't do everything he needs to do if he's always afraid of exposure. It handicapped him in the past, and it would do so again now. Is that what you want?

I don't know why you post either

[Kschreck]

Yeah I did find it weird how quick Chloe was to tell Clark to quit the Daily Planet and stop saving people as the Red and Blue Blur.. It was almost a bit generic.

[unex||den||adel]

Because Chloe is bad person.
lol. Agree! ;)

[Kalista]

That's very insightful Unex. I see it too.


So because Chloe wants Clark to be with Lana (the girl he loves) without leading Lois on, she's all over the place? Because when Clark was giving people hope, she wanted him to be the RBB but when he's jeopardizing his secret it might be a good idea to slow down a bit, she's inconsistent?

Thank you. I don't think Chloe has been inconsistent either. In this episode, she wanted Clark to dial back the theatrics so that he wouldn't jeopardize his identity.


Chloe: I'm all about your streak of primary colors making a splash but this is more like a tsunami.

I just want to make sure that your rush to inspire joe six pack doesn't unmask Clark Kent.

This is sage advice coming on the heels of Infamous. She certainly wasn't encouraging to stop his heroic acts or become a coward. Chloe's primary concern is protecting his identity.

[Kevin24]

I just saw that as Chloe trying to protect Clark and nothing else. Was it a bad solution? yeah but she had her heart in the right place.

They were just bouncing ideas off of each other and Clark told her that he didn't want to do that. So I really don't see what the big deal is.

[HotStudsSuccess]

lol. Agree! ;)


This is kind of funny with you having a Chloe Ava on your screen name :lol:

[unex||den||adel]

That's very insightful Unex. I see it too.





:cool:. thANKS, kal..

[Storm45]

Chloe is very inconsistant this season. First she tells Clark not to hurt her cousin and in another episode she is okay with Clark and Lana. Chloe tells Clark it is okay to have a dual identity when Jimmy had the picture of him as the RBB. Now she tells him to cool it. I'm really beginning to wonder about Chloe and her advice. Clark better do what he thinks best and not listen to Chloe for now.

She never said that Clark should be with Lois and that he should reject Lana. Only to be careful with Lois.

Its like Lois in season 4. Lois told Clark in Devoted that he he breaks Chloe's heart she'll break her leg.
But later in ''Spirit'' she encouraged Clark to go dance with Lana, because he has feelings for her. Then Chloe ended up heartbroken.

Is it that people in Smallville are inconsistent in general?

[Mai4et0]

because she's more worried about him then herself it's always been that, I don't get why are you so suprised :D

[unex||den||adel]

This is kind of funny with you having a Chloe Ava on your screen name :lol:
1 suggestion: try to wandering around on the other thread. *wink wink* hint: the thread has Chloe name on it.;)

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because she's more worried about him then herself it's always been that, I don't get why are you so suprised :D
on the other hand, THANK LOIS LANE for being soo understanding.

[DigitalKing]

:rolleyes:Is that not what he does when he becomes Superman? Only then there won't be any blur to hide behind, so why not start now?Because a) he's in danger of being exposed by people who want him dead and b) he doesn't have a proper public persona yet. Further, "when he becomes Superman" is when glasses suffice as a disguise.

In the early seasons he was mainly protecting his own people. Those days are over he understands he's responsible for more than that now. He can't do everything he needs to do if he's always afraid of exposure. It handicapped him in the past, and it would do so again now. Is that what you want?Actually as per his own words it's harder to go semi-super-speed, and the only reason why he's doing it is for the sake of people seeing that he's around, and he's taking unnecessary risks in doing that, so that's actually handicapping him. But of course, SV fandom antagonizing Chloe is the in thing right now...

I don't know why you post eitherGiven how biased people are here, maybe I shouldn't.

[ginnyfan]

Chloe was just afraid for his safety. She was locked up by Luthorcorp for months and tested and probably experimented on. She's already in an emotional state because of all that's going on with Jimmy. It was her knee jerk reaction out of fear. Tess could know his weakness and kill him. It's a possibility. It's refreshing to see Chloe give some (bad?) advice, Clark to disagree and take a different course of action.

[unex||den||adel]

Chloe was just afraid for his safety. She was locked up by Luthorcorp for months and tested and probably experimented on. She's already in an emotional state because of all that's going on with Jimmy. It was her knee jerk reaction out of fear. Tess could know his weakness and kill him. It's a possibility. It's refreshing to see Chloe give some (bad?) advice, Clark to disagree and take a different course of action.
ITA. and we all know at the end of the day, Choe was right all along!

look what happen in infamous. if only clark would listen to her instead of soo jumpy to tell the whole world that he is the RBB.

showing off is never being good, clarkboy...

[ChloeBot]

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That's kinda mean to say. Just because he is a Chloe fan doesn't mean he has to say everything she does is right or good. I didn't like her advice to Clark in this episode either. And I'm still a Chloe fan, so? Chloe's advice here was pre-mature to say the least. Clark says Tess *might* know his secret and suddenly Chloe tells him to quit the DP and stop being the RBB. I don't like that advice and it seems very un-Chloe to me.

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showing off is never being good, clarkboy...

Clark was showing off? Clark told the world his secret because Linda threatened to do it herself and he wanted to get have the world know the truth his way. Did we watch the same episode??

[Supsfan]

But later in ''Spirit'' she encouraged Clark to go dance with Lana, because he has feelings for her. Then Chloe ended up heartbroken.

I always looked at that scene as Lois not wanting to give Chloe false hope :P

[Kalista]

Clark was showing off?

Clark admitted to Chloe that he was deliberately slowing down so that the traffic cameras would capture his image. That's dangerous and it's the reason why Chloe was concerned.

[Storm45]

I always looked at that scene as Lois not wanting to give Chloe false hope :P

Like Chloe never encouraged Clois. They both know how he feels about Lana and can't force him to chose another person. They just wanted Clark to be careful with the third party.

[Kevin24]

Chloe was just looking out for Clark in that scene. She doesn't want him to get hunted and persecuted for being an alien. Clark is her best friend and she just wants him to be safe and she felt that he might be in danger because Tess is getting closer to his secret.

Clark shot down the idea anyway so it didn't really change anything.

[devilneedsaride]

Chloe is just all over the map this season on Smallville. To be honest, I never know what to expect from her from episode to episode. One episode she pushes Clark to become the red/blue blur to give people hope, the next she tells him to stop. One episode she tells Clark to go for it with Lana, the next he is warning Clark about Lois' feelings. Enough is enough already. Writers...pick a direction with Chloe and stay with it.

ITA. I think that her overprotective advice to Clark would make sense if it were being consistently written into the character throughout this season. She has a point. She's trying to protect him, and I'm okay with that. What I'm not okay with is that LAST WEEK she was urging him to do the whole superhero alias thing and then she does a complete 180. It's unrealistic and it degrades the integrity of the character.

I miss the Chloe from seasons 1-3 :(


Totally out of character YET AGAIN for Chloe and this just makes me feel like PS3 are consciously trying to sabotage the Chloe character this season.

I would say it's out of character, but I'm not even sure Chloe HAS a definite character anymore. It's like she's become this nondescript wild card that the writers use to fill whatever role they need for the episode.

[unex||den||adel]

Clark was showing off? Clark told the world his secret because Linda threatened to do it herself and he wanted to get have the world know the truth his way. Did we watch the same episode??
no.

i think im in the turbulence, and you still at infamous. try to catch up.

"slow speeding at the cctv, to let public know all the saving is done by RBB". thats pretty much showing of to me.

Chloe advise him to lay low, not quit the saving.The RBB news spread by the Daily Planet, and Tess is the owner of it. Do you think she will just gonna close her eyes on this? Tess will hunt down the RBB and clark know it.

[Kevin24]

no.

i think im in the turbulence, and you still at infamous. try to catch up.

"slow speeding at the cctv, to let public know all the saving is done by RBB". thats pretty much showing of to me.

Chloe advise him to lay low, not quit the saving.The RBB news spread by the Daily Planet, and Tess is the owner of it. Do you think she will just gonna close her eyes on this? Tess will hunt down the RBB and clark know it.

She is talking about turbulence. Clark said he slows down just enough so that the cameras can see his blur in the photographs. He doesn't do it to show off but to let the people know that he is around protecting and keeping the streets safe. Like Clark said "He is giving them hope" .

She did tell him to stop doing it but Clark wants to be the hope for the people and that is why he slows down enough so the blur can be captured on camera.

[unex||den||adel]

Chloe was just looking out for Clark in that scene. She doesn't want him to get hunted and persecuted for being an alien. Clark is her best friend and she just wants him to be safe and she felt that he might be in danger because Tess is getting closer to his secret.

Clark shot down the idea anyway so it didn't really change anything.
yeah, and diss all the " chloe, if i can, i wont ask for your help thingy"....

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She is talking about turbulence. Clark said he slows down just enough so that the cameras can see his blur in the photographs. He doesn't do it to show off but to let the people know that he is around protecting and keeping the streets safe. Like Clark said "He is giving them hope" .

She did tell him to stop doing it but Clark wants to be the hope for the people and that is why he slows down enough so the blur can be captured on camera.
:confused:. u refer me or who? which "she" you saying?

[Kal-ed]

She´s not urging him to be a coward, how ever I dont get the writers, they have CHloe all over the place. in infamous he found out about Davis and wasnt too happy about it, went all protective about Clark, scared and basically intolerant even when Davis was admiting it and was looking for help, not judgement. Now she´s all accepting and doesnt stop for a second to question whether she should choose Davis over Jimmy.

About the Clark stuff, I dont have her exact words from Identity but wasnt she basically sugesting Clark do what he´s doing, now its not ok?? Meh, I dont mind what ever opinon Chloe has on the matter, I loved JK but he always had that almost obsession with Clark keeping his secret airtight locked but at least they were consistant, Chloe one day wants him to inspire people, the next its too much...

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Chloe is just all over the map this season on Smallville. To be honest, I never know what to expect from her from episode to episode. One episode she pushes Clark to become the red/blue blur to give people hope, the next she tells him to stop. One episode she tells Clark to go for it with Lana, the next he is warning Clark about Lois' feelings. Enough is enough already. Writers...pick a direction with Chloe and stay with it.

Didnt read you post till after posting mine, it would have saved me a lot of hasstle to just quote you, its exactly what I think.

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So because Chloe wants Clark to be with Lana (the girl he loves) without leading Lois on, she's all over the place? Because when Clark was giving people hope, she wanted him to be the RBB but when he's jeopardizing his secret it might be a good idea to slow down a bit, she's inconsistent?

Someone please explain this.


Sure, its ok if Chloe wants Clark to be with Lana, its ok if Chloe wants Clark to be mindfull of Lois´s feelings, what is not ok is that one episode she gets all protective of Lois and warns Clark about getting back into that endless circle with Lana, the next day Lois´s feelings are not an issue and its "Go Clana".

Its perfectly fine if CHloe wants Clark to be the RBB who inspires people, its also ok if she doesnt want him so he´s secret is safe but it cant be both, either the RBB is a known hero or an urban leyend, by slowing down just enough for cameras to catch a BLUR (a mere blur) Clark is saying "Im here, Im doing something, I exist" so he can inspire people without them knowing who he is, nothing more than what Chloe sugested in Identity.

Sure people will defend her mood swings and OOC moments till death but IMO it still reeks of inconsitent writing (let it be know I blame the writers not Chloe).

[chlo-el]

Chloe's being over protective. It's really scary to her that Clark may be discovered. Clark told her about "Infamous" and how it made him an enemy of the state. She just doesn't want him to be sooooo risky that he is discovered. I think if Martha and Jonthan were around they would urge him to do the same thing. They always told him to lie low. I also think Chloe is going through a hard time and doesn't want more problems of Clark secrets getting discovered.

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She´s not urging him to be a coward, how ever I dont get the writers, they have CHloe all over the place. in infamous he found out about Davis and wasnt too happy about it, went all protective about Clark, scared and basically intolerant even when Davis was admiting it and was looking for help, not judgement. Now she´s all accepting and doesnt stop for a second to question whether she should choose Davis over Jimmy.

About the Clark stuff, I dont have her exact words from Identity but wasnt she basically sugesting Clark do what he´s doing, now its not ok?? Meh, I dont mind what ever opinon Chloe has on the matter, I loved JK but he always had that almost obsession with Clark keeping his secret airtight locked but at least they were consistant, Chloe one day wants him to inspire people, the next its too much...

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Didnt read you post till after posting mine, it would have saved me a lot of hasstle to just quote you, its exactly what I think.

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Sure, its ok if Chloe wants Clark to be with Lana, its ok if Chloe wants Clark to be mindfull of Lois´s feelings, what is not ok is that one episode she gets all protective of Lois and warns Clark about getting back into that endless circle with Lana, the next day Lois´s feelings are not an issue and its "Go Clana".

Its perfectly fine if CHloe wants Clark to be the RBB who inspires people, its also ok if she doesnt want him so he´s secret is safe but it cant be both, either the RBB is a known hero or an urban leyend, by slowing down just enough for cameras to catch a BLUR (a mere blur) Clark is saying "Im here, Im doing something, I exist" so he can inspire people without them knowing who he is, nothing more than what Chloe sugested in Identity.

Sure people will defend her mood swings and OOC moments till death but IMO it still reeks of inconsitent writing (let it be know I blame the writers not Chloe).

But Clark was being really risky though in letting them know. He said he stopped slow enough for cameras to see him. What if someone saw his face. I think Chloe wnated him to wear a better costume or mask or something so he wouldn't get caught. And as inconsistent writing I know it's happened before. But it's not really inconsistant to me when they put attention on it. Clark called her out on it. It's inconsiatant to me when even the characters don't remeber the other moments that contradict what their saying.

[MAR-MAR]

I think Chloe is being protective of Clark. It seemed to me that when she said something to him about him trusting people she was holding back and keeping something from him. I think Chloe is keeping things from Clark more then just about her relationship with Jimmy. She knows things Clark doesn't and is trying to detour him from them to protect him. Which is kind of sad because they use to face everything together from something sad to happy or dangerous, they would figure it out together, but now it seems to have changed.

[unex||den||adel]

sometimes, i think she is OVER protected. Just look at the scene where chloe telling clark she n jimmy will have a hppy ending. She sure dont wnna clark worry abt her. Her face reaction when she turn around, said it all.

[costas22]

There were times yesterday when you thought that Tess might understand Clark more than Chloe.I don't know what the writers are thinking.

[last man of krypton]

I got the impression she just wanted Clark to be careful. Bear in mind everything Lex had put Clark through for seven years, simply because he thought Clark was hiding something. No friend would want to see him suffer that again. To be honest, I would've been concerned if she hadn't said anything.

[snookie16]

The mere hint that Tess might or might not know something in the vicinity of what could be Clark's secret, and Chloe thinks becoming a hermit is the best solution? He should just shrivel up and be selfish and undo everything he's worked for becuase Tess could possibly know something she could use against him in the future? That just made me mad :mad:

Just last week, when the barbarians were at the gates with their torches lit and swords drawn, Lois told him to rise above it and FIGHT BACK! Today there was no imminent threat but hiding seemed Logical? I don't think so. I don't think even Lana would've considered retreat at this point.

Incredibly out of character. Shame on you Ms. Sullivan. That's not what heroes do; you used to know that.

I just think she is wanting him to be cautious about his secret. Even though she does not remember saying to Clark that people are afraid of change in last weeks episode. She is just being her voice of reason like always.

[BadToad]

I don't have a problem with Chloe urging Clark to be careful (though he's a grown up, and its his life and choices), but I just didn't care for the way she went about it. She could obviously see that he was feeling pretty good about himself in that first scene, and it just felt like she was there to bring him down. And the last scene where she's telling him to quit the DP and stop being the RBB? That was just messed up. How the heck would that get him off Tess' radar? It wouldn't.

I could've done without the motherly, scolding tone. JMO

[mr lane]

Again. Great points. Chloe is changing her mind on so many things this season. And it's sad because it seems like PS3 are only using Chloe to promote OTHER character's agendas: Clark, Davis, Lana, Lois...

I have to ask myself, is this why they wanted AM in 22 episodes? To ruin her character? To make her cater to other characters? That makes me so mad. And you know, I really wished that PS3 had given Chloe an independent story arc that was about HER and not about Davis or Clark or Jimmy for that matter. :(

I agree with this and this is what i've been saying along in other threads, why give chloe so many eps if they're just going to destroy her character?

As stated in the post you quoted one moment Chloe is encouraging Clark to take on a dual identity then this episode shes telling him to quit being the RBB and quit the DP. One moment shes telling Clark not to hurt Lois then shes telling him to be with Lana.

She thinks her husband is crazy and wont give him the benefit of the doubt, she runs to another man for comfort then tases her husband to keep from hurting Doomsday? And lets not forget how she killed a man in identity whether or not she was under the influence of Brainiac has yet to be determined.

They just seem to be throwing Chloe's character in all different places to promote everyone else's story lines which i think is ridiculous. bad bad writting.

[unfocused]

Clark admitted to Chloe that he was deliberately slowing down so that the traffic cameras would capture his image. That's dangerous and it's the reason why Chloe was concerned.
But how is it showing off? Clark was dubbed the RBB while he was secretly saving lives. He doesn't do it for the credit or popularity, he never has. Identity proved to him that the people need hope, and that they can accept hope as the RBB. That's why he slows down for the cameras, so they can see that hope is there.


She is talking about turbulence. Clark said he slows down just enough so that the cameras can see his blur in the photographs. He doesn't do it to show off but to let the people know that he is around protecting and keeping the streets safe. Like Clark said "He is giving them hope" .

She did tell him to stop doing it but Clark wants to be the hope for the people and that is why he slows down enough so the blur can be captured on camera.
Exactly.


I don't have a problem with Chloe urging Clark to be careful (though he's a grown up, and its his life and choices), but I just didn't care for the way she went about it. She could obviously see that he was feeling pretty good about himself in that first scene, and it just felt like she was there to bring him down. And the last scene where she's telling him to quit the DP and stop being the RBB? That was just messed up. How the heck would that get him off Tess' radar? It wouldn't.

I could've done without the motherly, scolding tone. JMO

I agree on all accounts. Chloe seemed to want to bring Clark down. She gave us that familiar look, you know the one, where she bites her lip and frowns at the end of scenes. The look that says "ok I will finally shut up, but I'm still going to stand here with a stupid look on my face that tells the audience that I may be agreeing with you right now but I still don't like it."

Chloe is so inconsistent that she suggested Clark go back in time during Infamous, and approximately 2 seconds later she didn't want him to. She has been the plot device that serves the story, whatever it may be at that moment to further that story along, no matter how inconsistent it makes her look. She has been this plot device ever since learning Clark's secret. And frankly I am tired of Chloe making me feel dumber with the way she is. I can see a story go from point A to point B without having her make herself look like a fool in the process.

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Clark told Chloe that Tess did everything but admit to knowing his secret. Assuming everyone knows that Tess can be trusted, Chloe went way overboard. But we are talking about the person who took over Luthor corp. No one has trusted her until now, and Clark is still a bit "iffy" about it. Until now she has been an antagonist.

Chloe said it herself: "Extreme situations call for extreme measures." I would say Tess (not a trusted part of the team) geting too close constitutes an extreme situation. The extreme measure being the same thing he has always done. Standard procedure.

Clark disregarded her advice only and I'll repeat myself, only because he has decided to trust Tess. If not for that fact, i imagine he would be hiding his red and blue just like he did when Jimmy got too close. And Jimmy doesn't present any real danger.

I just don't see how Chloe encouraging him to go for the whole dual identity is somehow nullified because (in her mind) the Enemy has gotten way too close for comfort. It's not inconsistent. She told Clark he should wade out into the water. He dove in head first. Again, Chloe's words (sort of). "A splash would have been fine, but this is more like a tidal wave". Again, i don't see the inconsitancy. I see her as the one with the level head. What happens when/if Clark finds he can't trust Tess?

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But Clark was being really risky though in letting them know. He said he stopped slow enough for cameras to see him. What if someone saw his face. I think Chloe wnated him to wear a better costume or mask or something so he wouldn't get caught. And as inconsistent writing I know it's happened before. But it's not really inconsistant to me when they put attention on it. Clark called her out on it. It's inconsiatant to me when even the characters don't remeber the other moments that contradict what their saying.

No he´s not riking anything, from his smile and the fact that he´s dealt with this his whole life, he seemed pretty confident it was the right amount of speed, specially since his purposely slowing down. As I said in my previous post, the RBB cant be an inspiration if people dont know for sure there is actually someone there saving people, by slowing down, just enough to be caught, as a blur, by the cameras, people know there´s someone/something out there saving them and they can then be inspired; how can he be an inspiration, as Chloe sugested in Identity if its all myths and unproven miracles?

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I got the impression she just wanted Clark to be careful. Bear in mind everything Lex had put Clark through for seven years, simply because he thought Clark was hiding something. No friend would want to see him suffer that again. To be honest, I would've been concerned if she hadn't said anything.

I agree that she´s worried, I have no problem with that; what I do have a problem with is that she wasnt worried in Idenity and practically said the exact oposite of what she stated when Jimmy caught Clark´s blur. Lets not forget her sugestion at the end of last episode, she even sugested he wears a diferent clothing combo for when he saves people, just a few scenes later she´s worried, again its not wrong that she worries but its inconsitant to what she has previously said.

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How the heck would that get him off Tess' radar? It wouldn't.


Quite the contrary IMO, Clark quiting and the RBB suddenly droping out the radar would just make it more obvious to Tess that as soon as she was onto Clark, the RBB disapeared