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theotherJane
03-19-2009, 07:15 PM
I mean really.....was all this necessary?

The only good part of this show was right after the airplane explosion.

deanropi
03-19-2009, 07:16 PM
Who is this Clark you speak of?

RingzTerritory
03-19-2009, 07:16 PM
[MOD EDIT]

However jimmy and davis do belong in this story. Chloe doesn't.

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:16 PM
very good question clark was in what 10 minutes of this episode, while i had to deal with that chlavis crap again

Alexander III
03-19-2009, 07:17 PM
Dunno, I just know the whole point of this episode is about lies, secrecies and lack of trust.

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:25 PM
True, makes you wonder what the actress playing chloe does to get all that screen time, Lord knows its not her "Acting" lol.

However jimmy and davis do belong in this story. Chloe doesn't.

So classy.

Smallville6
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Dont you guys know? Clark has no importance in this story!

O'Neill
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Dunno, I just know the whole point of this episode is about lies, secrecies and lack of trust.

You just summed up every episode..... :D

xrayvision
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
I mean really.....was all this necessary?

The only good part of this show was right after the airplane explosion.

I'm glad more people are getting pissed off about this. It was ridiculous how little Clark was in this episode. This is why the first 3 seasons will always be the best for me. Because Clark was the #1 focus and got the most screentime of every episode.

myankskent
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm glad more people are getting pissed off about this. It was ridiculous how little Clark was in this episode.

It's pretty pathetic how TPTB are continuing to build up the Davis/Doomsday story without Clark, even in episode 16 of the season, and then I guess at the end of the season, Clark will just get thrown in there so he can fight Doomsday.

theotherJane
03-19-2009, 07:31 PM
I'm glad more people are getting pissed off about this. It was ridiculous how little Clark was in this episode. This is why the first 3 seasons will always be the best for me. Because Clark was the #1 focus and got the most screentime of every episode.

Exactly. And you know what? Normally I would be fine with this, but it just makes me mad after reading the spoilers for the upcoming episodes. We're gonna be seeing a lot more of this to come.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 07:32 PM
I forgot all about Clark during part of the episode. The Jimmy/Chloe/Davis storyline really held it's on. I thought it was the best part of the show. I enjoyed Clark/Tess, too, but I thought the former storyline was better than the latter.

ZODisGOD
03-19-2009, 07:33 PM
The producers really lack time management skills. They do not know what they more(Clark) and what they need to cut back(Davis/Jimmy/Chloe)

AgentChaos
03-19-2009, 07:33 PM
This episode was originally written when TW was scheduled to direct the following one. That's why he isn't in as much of it- to give him the time off he would have needed. That changed when he got sick, but it may have been too late to change anything.

Melekith
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
What they NEED to do is go back to what the roots of this show are...and that's the story of Superman, you know...that one guy made of pure good but never gets the girl? Yeah...

This season had so much momentum, but after Bride it has felt like 4 months of filler. They need to really start to develop the Chlois, even mimicking the old-school Clana if they must. I'd never thought I'd say this...but we might need a few more "Clark in the barn all alone and lonley" scenes to wrap up some of these eps, just to keep the focus on his story.

Alania
03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Don't know about that, but today i felt the hint of another ship on Clark, the man just can't get enough of it! :rolleyes:

warriorrenegade
03-19-2009, 07:55 PM
I'm glad more people are getting pissed off about this. It was ridiculous how little Clark was in this episode. This is why the first 3 seasons will always be the best for me. Because Clark was the #1 focus and got the most screentime of every episode.

I agree. You want to believe the show is going to turn that corner in the season and shift the focus back to Clark. Then the pull the o'l bait and switch on you and all hope is squashed. It sucks. And as someone has posted. It's only going to get worse as the season presses on...if you take the spoilers at face value.

Imzadia
03-20-2009, 12:13 AM
I forgot all about Clark during part of the episode. The Jimmy/Chloe/Davis storyline really held it's on. I thought it was the best part of the show. I enjoyed Clark/Tess, too, but I thought the former storyline was better than the latter.

I understand what you mean, except that I noticed that every time there was a commercial break, the story was about Jimmy/Chloe/Davis. The 'Only' commercial break that left us with the focus on Clark & Tess was when he jumped out of the jet with her in his arms. I was hoping when the show resumed, we'd see him flying and landing with Tess on the ground. :\ Oh well, I wasn't too disappointed or agitated like some others, it's just that when I first heard the title of this episode, I thought that it would be along the Theme of this season, "Dualities". So, I thought that Maybe it had Something to do with 'Air Currents' and such and Clark would Fly.

I also want to point out that "Jimmy"/AA deserves some extra screen time since he's been out for one episode more than ED/"Lois", ...FIVE WEEKS/episodes! So many have complained that he hasn't had enough to do, well, tonight's episode gave him some 'make-up' screen time, IMO. Although, I'm Not a Fan of the Jimmy/Chloe/Davis Triangle, whatever is going to happen with that/them needs to be a story that's completed. There needs to be Resolution to it all, especially for Jimmy & Chloe's sake. It seems that the Writers are making necessary steps to ALIGN all of the storylines to bring more cohesiveness to this season by episode 22, especially since there'll be a season 9.

This episode DID Focus more on the Jimmy/Chloe/Davis Triangle than on Clark, IMO. However, Clark's story was more about 'What he's been doing with his life, really. Like spending lots of time on 'Hero Duty' and mastering his 'Quick Change' into his pre-Superman, primary colored Red-Blue Blur outfit that we're soooo familiar with. Also, the 'B' story, a simple, short plotline, which IMO Was Clark & Tess; all about Tess 'Testing' Clark with a 'staged' airborne jet accident just to see 'How' Clark would save them. ;) Obviously, she Must be convinced that Clark has super-saving abilities to put both their lives in peril in such a drastic way.

'AgentChaos' pointed out another Idea that also came to my mind while I was watching this episode. I remembered the first Director's Schdule and remembered that "Hex", the next episode up, was going to be directed by Tom Welling before that lineup changed. I agree with that assumption, too, that it may have been Why he wasn't so visible in this episode. I guess he had some much appreciated 'down time'.


This episode was originally written when TW was scheduled to direct the following one. That's why he isn't in as much of it- to give him the time off he would have needed. That changed when he got sick, but it may have been too late to change anything.

:rolleyes: Resourceful people learn things that us lazybones don't. So, When was Tom sick, (it's all long over with now, but I still feel bad for him that he got sick,) and how did you learn such information? I haven't heard Anything newsworthy about Tom in recent news since the "Vogue" layout-photo shoot last spring. That was followed by his attendance at the 'Gala' also associated with said photo shoot. :confused:

I want to be "in the loop", too. :( :p

Supsfan
03-20-2009, 12:35 AM
I mean really.....was all this necessary?

I wish the show would not focus so much on Chloe/Davis, we get it he is a good guy who has an evil side all we need from this point on is a good Clark/Doomsday fight, not much more out of his character

devilneedsaride
03-20-2009, 01:26 AM
While I would have liked to see more Clark/Tess, I didn't really mind the Davis/Chloe/Jimmy bits.

wafflles87
03-20-2009, 01:32 AM
I thought of this too...

Clark was like, a secondary character in this episode. The focus was on Chloe/Davis/Jimmy, and I didn't like that. Not one bit.

Kschreck
03-20-2009, 01:34 AM
Tonight's episode was solid but I wish the story would focus more on Clark and his destiny.

Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 01:42 AM
It felt like the episode Static to me, where something actually intresting was happening to/around/about/for Clark yet it was the B plot of the episode.

I remember how upset I was after Static, Clark proactively going to a nother city to investigate murders that might be related to the Phantoms he swore to stop, he decided to put Lana as a second priority and went to Seattle, investigated on his own, found the Batista phantom, MM made its first apereance, yet as amazing as this woudl sound to someone that didnt watch Static, all this happened in a few minutes airtime and was not at all the focus of the episode.

This time around it wasnt as intresting IMO but still very intresting, Tess being on to him, Clark fully embracing the alter ego stuff...

... but the one thing that really irked me in this episode and by irked I mean I almost kicked my screen is that the first time Clark has changed in a phonebooth, from reporter to superhero was a short scene with little leading to it and with ZERO followthrough scenes. :mad::mad:

zHeN_zHeN
03-20-2009, 01:45 AM
I think it's good when they mix it up once in a while.

Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 01:49 AM
I think it's good when they mix it up once in a while.


once in a while is the key frase here, its not once in a while, it happens quite often, specially this season, specially after the December Hiatus. First Lana was the focus, now its Chloe/Davis, what´s next?? or better yet who´s next to take the focus? I Know who isnt: Clark Kent.

We know from spoilers that the Chlavis focus is far, far, far from over

last man of krypton
03-20-2009, 08:47 AM
Normally the love triangles on this show irritate me, but this was actually nicely done. Great acting from all, excellent story, with a curiosity as to where the characters go from here.

BadToad
03-20-2009, 08:49 AM
Well, God knows this show seems to have a whole world of trouble remembering its supposed to be about Clark. Its not that I have an issue with other characters getting focus from time-to-time, it seems too often that we have Clark in some kind of secondary, supporting role.

And to me, there's just way too much focus on this whole Chloe/Davis thing.

Kal-ed
03-20-2009, 03:50 PM
Normally the love triangles on this show irritate me, but this was actually nicely done. Great acting from all, excellent story, with a curiosity as to where the characters go from here.

I like the triangle too, its not like Clexana which was booooorring... that doesnt change the fact that the focus should be on Clark and not Chloe/Davis/Jimmy.

SuperheroFan87
03-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Who the hell is this "Clark Kent" guy you all keep on referencing? God, you make him sound like he's some kind of legendary superhero.........the show is obviously a new take on "Beauty and the Beast":rolleyes::p

SnowBird
03-20-2009, 04:02 PM
The best part was Clark but just not enough. I would have liked less of Jimmy/Chloe/Davis.....It did feel like Static. When I watch that one, I fast forward till I get to the Clark scenes which was the best plot.

luthorian
03-20-2009, 04:07 PM
If Clark has too much screen time he can't control the BDA :lol:

SnowBird
03-20-2009, 04:14 PM
If Clark has too much screen time he can't control the BDA :lol:

I have a new meaning for BDA and he has been doing a great job this season.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/snowbird329/pictures/best-dressed2.jpg

Tompouce
03-20-2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks Bev, it is so true. Have you noticed the way he was dressed when he came to the Mansion ? A new jeans and his jacket ? I almost fainted. Just WAOW ! :p

luthorian
03-20-2009, 04:16 PM
I have a new meaning for BDA and he has been doing a great job this season.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/snowbird329/pictures/best-dressed2.jpg

:lol: Getting there but the back bag just killed it for me...

skugers
03-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Chloe/Davis/Doomsday in Turbulence was only the beginning of the flood, people... We'll be stuffed with this until the end of the season :(... I'm sorry they chose to go down that path, The Beauty and The beast crap and all. I guess now that Clana drama is over PS3 had to replace it with something. Chlavis drama.
And Clark Kent gets to assist others, one more time :(

SnowBird
03-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Thanks Bev, it is so true. Have you noticed the way he was dressed when he came to the Mansion ? A new jeans and his jacket ? I almost fainted. Just WAOW ! :p

OH YES, I noticed. He really looked sharp:)

BWOracle
03-20-2009, 04:24 PM
If it is true that TW was to direct the next episode (I saw posted somewhere else that he was sick), it was quite natural to make his story the B story.

Everytime one of the principals was set to direct, he/she pretty much disappeared from the previous episode (unless it was in the middle of a long break, like TW doing Hydro). John Schneider was off for medical treatments the episode before his directing. Allison was off visiting Jimmy in the hospital before hers. Michael Rosenbaum was off on a business trip for most of the episode before his.

skugers
03-20-2009, 04:32 PM
If it is true that TW was to direct the next episode (I saw posted somewhere else that he was sick), it was quite natural to make his story the B story.

Everytime one of the principals was set to direct, he/she pretty much disappeared from the previous episode (unless it was in the middle of a long break, like TW doing Hydro). John Schneider was off for medical treatments the episode before his directing. Allison was off visiting Jimmy in the hospital before hers. Michael Rosenbaum was off on a business trip for most of the episode before his.
Yes, it is true. He was supposed to direct Hex but pulled out due to health problems. This might be one of the reasons the ep was Clark-lite. But it's not an excuse for the fact that Turbulence was promoted as a 'possibile-flight episode', with Clark Kent in the middle of the action, in Oliver's jet. We got so little of what we were teased with, IMO.

petitemimi
03-20-2009, 06:20 PM
The only interesting thing in that Chloe/Davis/Jimmy thing was Jimmy. The scenes about Davis' internal struggles are way too many. And yes, TW was supposed to direct the episode after but I think the writers could have made an effort to write a few additional scenes with Clark in it.

Mrs. Superman
03-20-2009, 06:25 PM
I'm intrigued by the Chloe/Dooms storyline, but episodes are a lot less entertaining when Clark is the supporting character.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
03-20-2009, 06:31 PM
Dont you guys know? Clark has no importance in this story!

Surely you jest ;)

This is Clark's show? Hasn't been for a long time now......

Smallville Vamp
03-20-2009, 06:59 PM
Um, that's a great question and one that I've been trying to figure out myself but still not totally convinced I have the CORRECT answer to YET. Let me get back to ya, I'll have a definitive answer to this no later than the end of episode 22, I PROMISE! :D

Alicia Chipy
03-20-2009, 07:04 PM
Surely you jest ;)

This is Clark's show? Hasn't been for a long time now......

Maybe when the show refocuses on CLARK,THE RATINGS WILL GO UP AGAIN.