Jimmy = Drug Addict?

[davidbrenton]

they seem to be continuing the season of dark paths for each character. Now, based on the final scene, Jimmy has turned to drugs.

Are you liking or hating this twist?

[unfocused]

I am liking it. Almost as much as I like the word "durg."

[RingzTerritory]

drug addict? um no he didn't abuse any drugs until after he was done with all of the chloe and davis BS, hell I'd probably go get high after dealing with a skank like chloe. LOL I guess we'll see how he ends up.

[Alexander III]

Nah, those are harmone drugs. He needed it, or else he wouldn't have had the harmones to confront Chloe in the final Climmy scene.

[Melekith]

To be completely honest...props to Jimmy man! I don't know why so many people have been all about Chloe forever. When she's not with Clark she's just as manipulative as Tess. I really, REALLY wish the writers would have stuck with her memory being erased after Abyss...I liked that approach. Writers got their work cut out for themselves now!

[smeyer44]

is it too much to ask for the drugs actually look like pain pills and give them a real name? The former partier in me is dissapointed in their attention to detail

[kg1507]

While I'm not a supporter of drugs at all, I think it's going to be interesting where this is going to take Jimmy in the next few episodes. I'm expecting a scene where Jimmy is all strung-out on drugs and goes to talk to Chloe or something.

[green_arrow_girl358]

liking it as long as it doesn't stick around. he can't have as many issues as rolling stone, or clark for that matter

[Night_Hawk90]

Jimmy= my hero

['Tonio09]

While I'm not a supporter of drugs at all, I think it's going to be interesting where this is going to take Jimmy in the next few episodes. I'm expecting a scene where Jimmy is all strung-out on drugs and goes to talk to Chloe or something.

Agreed. This will be pretty interesting to see. They've really brought out the dark in everyone this season..I mean JIMMY OLSEN on drugs...thats wild.

[thehenry89]

I really hope not, but I'm not gonna lie i know why he did it. I'm not saying its a good thing but I understand why.

[latingirl]

i love jimmy today... and las conversation with Chloe at hospital was so honest, and he was true, but Davis I hate him today...

[SupermanRox]

I'm not sure. I think at this point he has the potential to become addicted to the pain medication that he's been taking for so long while he's been in the hospital. I'm out on this one.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I hope they do not turn Jimmy into a drug addict! Anyone who went through what he did would absolutely need pain meds, but I just hope they don't have him becoming strung out! He's Jimmy Olsen for crying out loud!! I won't be surprised though!

['Tonio09]

I really hope not, but I'm not gonna lie i know why he did it. I'm not saying its a good thing but I understand why.

Agreed.

[unfocused]

Jimmy had nowhere else to turn, lol.

But yeah, drugs are bad, mmkay?

[colibri]

I think its interesting but I don't think the drug issue is so black and white. There are two references here that show that Davis was pumping him up on some of the drugs. That, along with the emotional stress, I think is causing the addiction.

Davis was really showing his evil side in this.

['Tonio09]

i love jimmy today... and las conversation with Chloe at hospital was so honest, and he was true, but Davis I hate him today...

In all that anger it kind of sounded like he was relieved to finally say all of that. He's been holding quite a bit in so...

[unfocused]

I'm not sure. I think at this point he has the potential to become addicted to the pain medication that he's been taking for so long while he's been in the hospital. I'm out on this one.

The nurse said those meds were very addictive and he should only take three a day, he just took four at once. Of course he's going to get addicted.

And apparently they were different drugs than he was already taking.

['Tonio09]

But yeah, drugs are bad, mmkay?

:lol: :lol:

[Alexander III]

In all that anger it kind of sounded like he was relieved to finally say all of that. He's been holding quite a bit in so...

He held it in for too long, finally he pooped them all out! Chloe soo deserves this!!

[Clana4Life]

Yeah, he'll either kill himself from an overdose or be shipped off to Betty Ford. What's the equivalent of Betty Ford in the DC comic world?

[Karafan1]

What happened tonight makes me think Jimmy will be 1 of the deaths in the finale

[bychance]

What is Smallville doing? Jimmy Olsen quitting the Daily Planet? Come on...lol.


NO WAY! It's Jimmy O. They can't do this.The Jimmy Olsen character has never been explored, ever. In the movies, the same adaption and actors (including the Superman Returns imitation) Jimmy was just a 'gee golly Ms. Lane' young man.

So for anyone who chooses that option (to say this should not be allowed) is kind of being close minded. It is weird to see him get an actual story here though. They used to focus on Jimmy in Lois and Clark in the first season, but than he got useless the rest of the series. Than again they did have a better actor when the show started. Does anyone know if Jimmy ever appeared in Superboy?

[susangail]

I would have voted wait-and-see, but I thought they overdid it, so I voted no.

[cksidekick]

Yeah, he'll either kill himself from an overdose or be shipped off to Betty Ford. What's the equivalent of Betty Ford in the DC comic world?

Oliver Queen is the equivalent in the DC Universe. I think PS3 have actualy come up with something for Green Arrow to do this season that is true to character AND constructive. Maybe helping Jimmy will pull him back from "the dark side".

Get Jimmy off drugs, Green Arrow!

[Vergon6]

I don't want him to become addicted to pain medication, but it seemed like that's the road they will take.

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Oliver Queen is the equivalent in the DC Universe. I think PS3 have actualy come up with something for Green Arrow to do this season that is true to character AND constructive. Maybe helping Jimmy will pull him back from "the dark side".

Get Jimmy off drugs, Green Arrow!
You read my mind. Now one of the spoilers actually starts to make sense. The one about Jimmy starting to become friends with Oliver

[smeyer44]

I don't want him to become addicted to pain medication, but it seemed like that's the road they will take.
I'd probably be stacking pills in a Pez dispenser if I got jacked by Doomsday

[yomama]

Roy Harper...I mean, Jimmy! NO!!!! That one extra pain killer is the gateway drug to Hell! ;)

[ywm]

i voted "yeah" :D

[wolverine316]

Jimmy is now a drug addict. Thanks alot Chloe for ruining his life.

[Vergon6]

Roy Harper...I mean, Jimmy! NO!!!! That one extra pain killer is the gateway drug to Hell! ;)
Haha yep

[Just Another Guy]

I hate it. The PS3's definition of "goodguy" seems to be "someone we have yet to demoralize." A lot of shows toy with moral ambiguity, but I'm rather ashamed that Smallville has taken that route.

It's Superman, for goodness' sake, and they're treating this like the X-Men, or something. To be heading a show about Superman, these guys don't seem to have much regard for "truth, justice, and the American way."

[Vergon6]

I hate it. The PS3's definition of "goodguy" seems to be "someone we have yet to demoralize." A lot of shows toy with moral ambiguity, but I'm rather ashamed that Smallville has taken that route.

It's Superman, for goodness' sake, and they're treating this like the X-Men, or something. To be heading a show about Superman, these guys don't seem to have much regard for "truth, justice, and the American way."
I agree if they truly taking Jimmy down this route. They should have really saved that for a Green Arrow spin-off, where they could have Roy Harper on it in some fashion.

[Clana4Life]

I hate it. The PS3's definition of "goodguy" seems to be "someone we have yet to demoralize." A lot of shows toy with moral ambiguity, but I'm rather ashamed that Smallville has taken that route.

It's Superman, for goodness' sake, and they're treating this like the X-Men, or something. To be heading a show about Superman, these guys don't seem to have much regard for "truth, justice, and the American way."

The new line is "truth, justice and all of that other stuff." LOL Everything is so PC now. :)

[SnowBird]

Drug addiction is a real problem with being medicated for pain for a long length of time and Jimmy has fallen into this trap. No one is safe when it comes to going to the dark side in Smallville. I hope Jimmy will be able to pull himself out of this one without consequences.

[Clana4Life]

Drug addiction is a real problem with being medicated for pain for a long length of time and Jimmy has fallen into this trap. No one is safe when it comes to going to the dark side in Smallville. I hope Jimmy will be able to pull himself out of this one without consequences.

You're sweet SnowBird.

[clois-destiny-forever]

Still trying to figure it out...

[Vergon6]

I have a feeling this will be Jimmy and Oliver's arc for the remainder of the season (aside from potential Green Arrow stuff for Oliver).

[superspider02]

interesting development with jimmy i wonder how long they are going to be doing this storyline. Also hopefully he will return to the planet in the near future.

[Bre723]

I'm not really sure yet.
I think it's way too soon to tell.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

This arc is blasphemy. I put this right up there with the line about making Superman "darker' in the next movie. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to be the bright eyed kid that looks up to CK and SM, not a violent pill popper. I am very unhappy with this arc.

[Kschreck]

I'd probably be stacking pills in a Pez dispenser if I got jacked by Doomsday


You just made me burst out laughing. :rotfl:

[Just Another Guy]

This arc is blasphemy. I put this right up there with the line about making Superman "darker' in the next movie. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to be the bright eyed kid that looks up to CK and SM, not a violent pill popper. I am very unhappy with this arc.
Truer words were never spoken. I don't think these producers know jack about Superman or their own show.

[EternalTwilight]

This arc is blasphemy. I put this right up there with the line about making Superman "darker' in the next movie. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to be the bright eyed kid that looks up to CK and SM, not a violent pill popper. I am very unhappy with this arc.

ITA very much. If this is the direction they plan on going with Jimmy, then I'm not very happy about it either. They're derailing every character on this show whether it's a mythos character or not by making them "darker". Sure, it makes for a dramatic and interesting story but it ruins the character. Sometimes beyond repair. Drug addict Jimmy Olsen? Please, no! :(

[devilneedsaride]

I don't really like it, but not out of loyalty to Jimmy's character. I just don't think it's going to be a very interesting storyline.

Also, was I the only one who thought Jimmy was being suicidal when he first popped out the pill bottle? Speaking from experience, 4x the recommended dosage of pain meds can seriously jack you up. I guess it depends on what he was taking exactly, but still.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I'm all for the storyline. Jimmy's been dealt some crappy cards. Deadbeat dad, deadbeat wife, and lots and lots of pain. Turning to drugs would be logical and it's like not anybody cares about him. I doubt Clark will take a day off in his heroing to check up on Jimmy. Jimmy angst AA does well:(

[thehenry89]

This arc is blasphemy. I put this right up there with the line about making Superman "darker' in the next movie. Jimmy Olsen is supposed to be the bright eyed kid that looks up to CK and SM, not a violent pill popper. I am very unhappy with this arc.

Yeah that bugs me too, Clark Kent is NOT Bruce Wayne he has no reason to be "darker" he's just fine the way he is.

[Sports72Xtrm]

Yeah that bugs me too, Clark Kent is NOT Bruce Wayne he has no reason to be "darker" he's just fine the way he is.
CK isn't dark but he does live in a dark world. Nothing wrong with that. Just gives him more stuff to do and more people to save.

[borednow]

*cries for Jimmy*

[chlo-el]

It's a sad but intersting story line.

[SupesComicFan]

He is not addicted to drugs. He couldn't get extra morphine in the hospital (his pump WAS working correctly), he was forcibly pumped with drugs by Davis.

He took extra medicine ONCE on screen. We will see where this goes, but taking four instead of two or three once does not make one an addict, but it does lead to addiction. So, it is too soon to tell.

[Bizarrolover]

Jimmy was left alone in a very vulnerable state, he recovered from severe injuries on his own and without the support of his bride so it's logical he would find support in the drugs that eased off the pain. Morphine and some pain killers are very addictive (even nasal drops are addictive) so it's very easy for someone in his state to fall into an addictive behavior. If Chloe had been there for him from the beginning, I'm sure things would have been different. She could have noticed that Jimmy was going through some kind of post traumatic desorder and see the addiction taking over him. She could have discussed this with the doctors and start some kind of therapy (she is a therapist, isn't she? Or at least she was trying to be one in Prey). But she wasn't there, so she didn't see it. I think that, right now, Jimmy is angry, scared and he feels abandoned by the woman he loves and risked his life for.

It's really sad that he's going through this because Jimmy is basically an optimistic character. I hope he gets over this and returns to the DP to be the cheerful photograper we love.

[costas22]

It is a nice turn fo his character,getting him away from this relationship stuff.Just wish he didn't leave the DP.

[candor]

my exact words were: seriously!?.....a jimmie the junkie story line!?

[yaseen101]

For God's sake people, he didn't quit the DP he just left a message for Tess to investigate on Davis and hell he wasn't pumping himself with cocaine or heroine, it was just pain killers the nurse issued him with, you can see her explaining he shouldn't take more than 3 a day since the stuff is addictive.

[malft]

Having some experience with chronic, dibilitating pain, I completely understand Jims' taking one or two extra PKs'. I hope though that he realizes that he is trading one crutch for another. Replacing his feelings for Chloe with any kind of drug leads nowhere, and messing about with prescription strength PK's can make you dead. It is a good arc for Jim, if he finds his true path in the end.

[Iluvgreen]

It seems like he is headed the same direction as his dad, but Chloe will save him. :D

[LoveHurts38]

Jimmy he is just in pain.

[superjude]

Nope, I don't want Jimmy to go down that line at all!!! I guess I'll have to take it as it comes either way. But, Drugs? Not something I enjoy watching especially not with Jimmy Olsen! If it does happen, I pray that Ollie helps bring him back to himself. He's not going to want to miss Davis proving him right all along.

[melissan02]

I'd probably be stacking pills in a Pez dispenser if I got jacked by Doomsday

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: This is great!!!!

[SnowBird]

Having some experience with chronic, dibilitating pain, I completely understand Jims' taking one or two extra PKs'. I hope though that he realizes that he is trading one crutch for another. Replacing his feelings for Chloe with any kind of drug leads nowhere, and messing about with prescription strength PK's can make you dead. It is a good arc for Jim, if he finds his true path in the end.

Very true and extremely sad to have to see someone go down this path with death as the end.

I hope Jimmy's friends will come to his rescue with tough love.

[skugers]

I have no problem in Jimmy taking painkillers. And even if he becomes an addict I trust the writers to put him back on his right path.
Otherwise, I understand him. The physical pain, combined with the psychological one, lead, most of the times, to misuse of painkillers. He's a good candidate to do that. And given his situation I excuse him fully.

[Tompouce]

ITA very much. If this is the direction they plan on going with Jimmy, then I'm not very happy about it either. They're derailing every character on this show whether it's a mythos character or not by making them "darker". Sure, it makes for a dramatic and interesting story but it ruins the character. Sometimes beyond repair. Drug addict Jimmy Olsen? Please, no! :(
I agree with you but I think it will be fixed quickly. The purpose as you said was to help for the drama Davis/Chloe and a way for explaining the divorce (I just find it is completely ridiculous and nonsense but well...). As Another Guy told it, I am very surprised this season with SV, they "play" with serious topics and they make them look like something "common". This is not in the Superman values at all. Strange and shocking sometimes. I just don't know what they want to prove but this is not a good idea at all...

[workshyslacker]

He is not addicted to drugs. He couldn't get extra morphine in the hospital (his pump WAS working correctly), he was forcibly pumped with drugs by Davis.

He took extra medicine ONCE on screen. We will see where this goes, but taking four instead of two or three once does not make one an addict, but it does lead to addiction. So, it is too soon to tell.

ITA.

So many inconsistencies.. so litle time. But I'll stick to the "drug addict" issue

Jimmy's infusion pump will not let him take anymore than the maximum dosage of morphine prescribed by the doctors, and it is unlikely he was able to manipulate the machine as these things have in-built preventative devices. There are at least 2 types of infusion pumps; one that can be manipulated by the patients if they can reach the keypad, but Jimmy has a special one as it contains morphine (being a controlled drug), and these have keys or codes that only the nurse can access, and unless he had one of these, I doubt he could take more than he was given. And that was why he wanted more.

Whatever Davis injected into him was unlikely to be morphine because if it was enough to knock him out (when he was already in a "fight or flight" mode) and overcome the amount of adrenaline in his body (as he was in a highly charged situation), it may have also affected his breathing, and he certainly would not have been able to charge around the hospital, banging on doors.. ;). And one massive dose of morphine does NOT make someone an addict. It is continuous abuse that does it.

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Don't get me started on how a (tv) nurse would let a paramedic get away with stocking up on anti-psychotic drugs as in "Infamous" because I doubt very much that this would be part of the kit paramedics use in an emergency ..:\

[Tompouce]

I have no problem in Jimmy taking painkillers. And even if he becomes an addict I trust the writers to put him back on his right path.
Otherwise, I understand him. The physical pain, combined with the psychological one, lead, most of the times, to misuse of painkillers. He's a good candidate to do that. And given his situation I excuse him fully.
Of course, we have to excuse him ! ITA with you, the weird thing is just about Superman values (see my post above lol);)

[Smallville Vamp]

I have no problem in Jimmy taking painkillers. And even if he becomes an addict I trust the writers to put him back on his right path.
Otherwise, I understand him. The physical pain, combined with the psychological one, lead, most of the times, to misuse of painkillers. He's a good candidate to do that. And given his situation I excuse him fully.

ITA, and I don't think they will turn him into an addict. For a split second when he was sitting at the light I thought he was about to throw the pills out the car window. I can't blame him for taking some instead, he just got out of the hospital and HAS to be in major pain. :(

[smeyer44]

I agree with you but I think it will be fixed quickly. The purpose as you said was to help for the drama Davis/Chloe and a way for explaining the divorce (I just find it is completely ridiculous and nonsense but well...). As Another Guy told it, I am very surprised this season with SV, they "play" with serious topics and they make them look like something "common". This is not in the Superman values at all. Strange and shocking sometimes. I just don't know what they want to prove but this is not a good idea at all...

I dont think they are "playing" with a serious problem at all, considering this is the first we see of it. The mistake would be to end the arc next episode, as that would just be playing. At least make it last a couple episodes.

And these characters are in their early-mid 20s, if I'm not mistaken. And I don't know what world you witness, but painkiller addiction is very common, especially given his age and circumstances.

Also, I dont consider myself a Superman expert when it comes to the mythos, but I dont see a problem with something like this happening to Jimmy. I'm under the assumption that Clark (b/c its Clark) and/or Oliver (b/c of his history) will help him through it, and it could be a good story about the goodness in Clark helping win through dark times for Jimmy or a redemption story for Oliver given his recent activities.

[desertcoyote]

Ok... so the doctors already know Jimmy's an addict. So what do they do? Let's give the addict some highly addictive painkillers so he can take them at home. Yes... that makes sense. They should have just shot him up with some heroin and let him loose?

[skugers]

Ok... so the doctors already know Jimmy's an addict. So what do they do? Let's give the addict some highly addictive painkillers so he can take them at home. Yes... that makes sense. They should have just shot him up with some heroin and let him loose?
You're right but they gave the pills to his wife LOL. They trusted her to take good care of him and supervise his treatment. LOL again.

[LoisLaneKicksAss]

i think it was the only real way to keep the story going. i mean, the whole chlavis vs. chlimmy was hard enough, they had to add something to really push him over the edge. and considering the horribly wedding incident, pain pill addiction is perfect. it is sad though..... :(

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

if taking meds while in recovery makes a person a drug addict then that means im 1 as well as i have to take meds for health problems :(

[Aries83]

I love the storyline. I hope he starts mixing them with alcohol, and the only reason I say that is because I want him to go as dark as Chloe. Even though this arc seems kinda rushed, I'm just glad Aaron is getting to do something that's not "Hi, I'm the nice guy on the show, everybody can crap on me" routine that he's been subjected to since he came on the show.

[rebecavaldez]

I would like to see where they take his character with "drugs." I just hope they don't go to over the top with it.

[cksidekick]

I love the storyline. I hope he starts mixing them with alcohol, and the only reason I say that is because I want him to go as dark as Chloe. Even though this arc seems kinda rushed, I'm just glad Aaron is getting to do something that's not "Hi, I'm the nice guy on the show, everybody can crap on me" routine that he's been subjected to since he came on the show.
;)

[thehenry89]

Ok... so the doctors already know Jimmy's an addict. So what do they do? Let's give the addict some highly addictive painkillers so he can take them at home. Yes... that makes sense. They should have just shot him up with some heroin and let him loose?

At this point Jimmy is not an addict he using the drugs to escape. Like I've said before If you get high like once your not a drug addict, if you can't get through the day without a fix then you are a drug addict.

If they continue showing us a jimmy who preferes popping pills to living in the real world then and only then will he be a drug addict.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

You guys know that when a doc says "don't take more than three in a day" that means you're supposed to spread three pills out over the course of a day, right? You're not supposed to down them all at once. Showing Jimmy popping four at time was intentionally done to show that he was misusing his meds.

[kyl-el]

Jimmy has always been squeaky clean from what I remember, almost to the point where he doesn't fit in with the rest of the crowd on this show. Bringing a darker element, even if it is temporary, will make his character more realistic in my opinion. I'm glad to see a rogue version of Jimmy for awhile as opposed to the continual trust issues between him and Chloe, that dead horse has been kicked too many times. I hope this stage lasts for a few episodes at least.

[aBR]

He is not addicted to drugs. He couldn't get extra morphine in the hospital (his pump WAS working correctly), he was forcibly pumped with drugs by Davis.

He took extra medicine ONCE on screen. We will see where this goes, but taking four instead of two or three once does not make one an addict, but it does lead to addiction. So, it is too soon to tell.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better.

In addition to that, what if Jimmy WAS really in physical pain? Like someone else said, being 'jacked by Doomsday' can't be a walk in the park! Dude killed Superman for cryin' out loud!

Poor Jimmy's getting smacked for what might be legitimate reasons for taking pain medications. Yes, too early to tell.

[workshyslacker]

Ok... so the doctors already know Jimmy's an addict. So what do they do? Let's give the addict some highly addictive painkillers so he can take them at home. Yes... that makes sense. They should have just shot him up with some heroin and let him loose?

My argument against this is that he's not an addict yet (see post above). :)

[rajman]

I dont blame him for swallowing those meds at the end, and finding out all those things, he's depressed

[actaeon]

Drug addict? Hardly.

The guy is taking pain medication because he's in pain.

I'm not disappointed in him, I'm disappointed in Chloe. She seems to be treating him like he's a drug addict. Like she won't believe what he says, because of his meds. I was also getting a vibe that she thinks he's not quite manly enough for her. She was condescending and lecturing him about his meds.

Instead of sympathy for her husband, who has spent five weeks hospitalized and in constant pain, she seemed mildly disgusted by his "weakness".

[Hopefulsuicide]

I'm really pleased about the storyline. As i said in another thread, it's nice to see an attack have actual long standing and unpredicted consequences.

Only other time i can think of where an attack and spell in hospital has actually lead to something was Lana's broken leg incident, but that was just a way of her meeting Adam. It didn't really do anything interesting for her character.

Jimmy growing addicted to medication, after 5 weeks of being pumped full of it and being depressed about his 'wife' who he can tell simply doesn't care enough about him, is certainly logical. OF COURSE he'd get addicted!

[candor]

For God's sake people, he didn't quit the DP he just left a message for Tess to investigate on Davis and hell he wasn't pumping himself with cocaine or heroine, it was just pain killers the nurse issued him with, you can see her explaining he shouldn't take more than 3 a day since the stuff is addictive.
oh he quit " DONT BOTHER I QUIT!" IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.

[SnowBird]

oh he quit " DONT BOTHER I QUIT!" IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.

He did say that and I'm wondering why he quit.

[Jaderoyale]

He did say that and I'm wondering why he quit.

Anger? Spur of the moment?
My guess is he was being rude to the guard about seeing Tess and thats why he just shouted that he quit.

[SnowBird]

Anger? Spur of the moment?
My guess is he was being rude to the guard about seeing Tess and thats why he just shouted that he quit.

That sounds right. I hope Jimmy changes his mind soon. It would seem strange if he isn't working at the DP.

[Tompouce]

And these characters are in their early-mid 20s, if I'm not mistaken. And I don't know what world you witness, but painkiller addiction is very common, especially given his age and circumstances.
Also, I dont consider myself a Superman expert when it comes to the mythos, but I dont see a problem with something like this happening to Jimmy. I'm under the assumption that Clark (b/c its Clark) and/or Oliver (b/c of his history) will help him through it, and it could be a good story about the goodness in Clark helping win through dark times for Jimmy or a redemption story for Oliver given his recent activities.
Addiction is not a matter of age but circumstances. And I have nothing against people with addiction, trust me. It was not a judgement at all. Addictions are unfortunately "common" in every place you can go to. But I don't think SV can show how important this kind of problems is in 40 minutes and even in 2/3 episodes.
I agree with you about Clark helping people in such troubles. No problem for me. But not characters you find in the mythos. It is just not the right way. They have to respect some facets of characters. Jimmy is not at all the good guy to do this. You know what I mean ?

[Hopefulsuicide]

I usually don't like it when they stray from the mythos in a negative way like this... but i don't really see an addiction to pain medication as that huge, and could easily be something that was there in Jimmy's past and never mentioned in the mythos because it simply wasn't important.

I wouldn't say it was OOC. In fact he felt very much like Jimmy Olsen to me, especially when he took that file up to Tess' office.

[SnowBird]

I think drug addiction is a very big thing. People are aware of illegal street drugs and what they can do to a person and the tragedies it causes. I'm not so sure how many are aware that legal prescription drugs are just as much of a problem with possible death to the person taking them. I don't have a problem myself, but I do have an up close and personal tragedy concerning prescription pain medication. An accidental death that could have been prevented if a doctor wasn't so quick to prescribe an addictive pain drug to a person with an already addictive personality. Doctors are so quick to prescribe drugs and some make a living only doing this very thing.

Jimmy took four pain pills at once with instructions to take not more than three pills spread out in a 24 hour time span. If you think that Jimmy is not addicted, then please re-think your opinion. He was on a highly addictive drip for 4 weeks. Usually they would decrease the amount over time and replace the drip with non addictive pills to try to dry him out. The writers decided not to take this action in order to show Jimmy's addiction.

Sometimes TV shows use a story-line to try to reach and teach their viewers. I really hope Jimmy's drug addiction is used properly to get the word out that prescription drugs can be a real danger if not used properly. There have been actors that have died due to the miss-use of prescription drugs. One actor in particular not too long ago. If Jimmy's story-line can be used as a teaching tool to reach the public, it will be worth the effort put into it.

[workshyslacker]

I think drug addiction is a very big thing. People are aware of illegal street drugs and what they can do to a person and the tragedies it causes. I'm not so sure how many are aware that legal prescription drugs are just as much of a problem with possible death to the person taking them. I don't have a problem myself, but I do have an up close and personal tragedy concerning prescription pain medication. An accidental death that could have been prevented if a doctor wasn't so quick to prescribe an addictive pain drug to a person with an already addictive personality. Doctors are so quick to prescribe drugs and some make a living only doing this very thing.

Jimmy took four pain pills at once with instructions to take not more than three pills spread out in a 24 hour time span. If you think that Jimmy is not addicted, then please re-think your opinion. He was on a highly addictive drip for 4 weeks. Usually they would decrease the amount over time and replace the drip with non addictive pills to try to dry him out. The writers decided not to take this action in order to show Jimmy's addiction.

Sometimes TV shows use a story-line to try to reach and teach their viewers. I really hope Jimmy's drug addiction is used properly to get the word out that prescription drugs can be a real danger if not used properly. There have been actors that have died due to the miss-use of prescription drugs. One actor in particular not too long ago. If Jimmy's story-line can be used as a teaching tool to reach the public, it will be worth the effort put into it.

I'm sorry for your loss.

I believe that Jimmy is not addicted to pain medication yet, although his overdosing of his oral pain meds may be the writers' way of showing that he was on his way to becoming addicted. If this storyline highlights the danger of prescription drugs, I agree, it is an important one.

[supercatmom]

Let me ask another question. I have no medical expertise but is it normal to give any patient morphine for 5 weeks to kill pain? Except maybe a terminally ill cancer paient.

And if they did give a patinet who was in great pain morphine for 5 weeks b/c of how addicting the drug is wouldn't some kind of weening process be done before the patient is released from the hospital.

Maybe this post should be under plotholes.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I think drug addiction is a very big thing. People are aware of illegal street drugs and what they can do to a person and the tragedies it causes. I'm not so sure how many are aware that legal prescription drugs are just as much of a problem with possible death to the person taking them. I don't have a problem myself, but I do have an up close and personal tragedy concerning prescription pain medication. An accidental death that could have been prevented if a doctor wasn't so quick to prescribe an addictive pain drug to a person with an already addictive personality. Doctors are so quick to prescribe drugs and some make a living only doing this very thing.
.

I completely agree with you, and i take back my wording of 'not that big'. What i had meant was that, since we know from canon that Jimmy is not addicted to drugs and is fine, working at the daily planet in the future, we know that his addiction will not be that big a problem. It will just be something he has to work through.

I have many friend, with many addictions, some legal and some illegal. Doctors are complete IDIOTS. One of my friends got anxiety attacks after hammering himself with drugs for a couple of years, and at 17 was prescribed valium... What the hell where they thinking? Oh, your screwing yourself up with drugs, well okay, have some more highly addictive ones, that will help :rolleyes:

What was the medication they gave Jimmy? I'd be interested to look it up, but i can't remember if they said a name.

[kal-el_Girl]

Just because he's in pain and NEEDS the meds doesn't make him a drug addict, I have a condition that requires heavy duty medication and I don't abuse it but I take it in order to control the pain. Now Jimmy he might be using a little bit more than he needs because he's in pain but a different pain, the pain of loosing chloe. I blame Chloe this time...

[SnowBird]

I'm sorry for your loss.

I believe that Jimmy is not addicted to pain medication yet, although his overdosing of his oral pain meds may be the writers' way of showing that he was on his way to becoming addicted. If this storyline highlights the danger of prescription drugs then I agree, it is an important one.

Thank you.....I really hope Jimmy isn't addicted, but he was sure determined to hit that drip button before it was time. I know he was in some pain but the way he was so active in the hospital and in going to Davis' ambulance shows me that he wasn't in enough pain to require as much medicine as he wanted. A sure sign of addiction to me. Four pain pills at once is now being used as a crutch for his personal problems and not a good sign.

[workshyslacker]

Let me ask another question. I have no medical expertise but is it normal to give any patient morphine for 5 weeks to kill pain? Except maybe a terminally ill cancer paient.

And if they did give a patinet who was in great pain morphine for 5 weeks b/c of how addicting the drug is wouldn't some kind of weening process be done before the patient is released from the hospital.

As Bev pointed out, usually some kind of weaning process does happen. There are lots of safeguards e.g. controlled pumps, pain teams, constant review of opiate medication by a number of healthcare workers. So no-one should be on high dose iv morphine or its equivalent for more than ~ couple of weeks, and even then its being reduced. This is standard care for patients with chest trauma or post-op operations, much like Jimmy. Terminal patients are different altogether. So I suppose the storyline that he's already addicted before he leaves hospital is so hard for me to swallow.

However, I can't deny that this is probably the message TPTB are trying to show us.

I hope this helps.

[kal-el_Girl]

Let me ask another question. I have no medical expertise but is it normal to give any patient morphine for 5 weeks to kill pain? Except maybe a terminally ill cancer paient.

And if they did give a patinet who was in great pain morphine for 5 weeks b/c of how addicting the drug is wouldn't some kind of weening process be done before the patient is released from the hospital.

well, in my experience with pain (I have scoliosis and currently waiting for massive surgery) my doctor gives me two months worth Hydrocodone and I know is heavy but I don't abuse it! But if I don't take it at night I would not be able to sleep because of the horrible pain I'm in. Also I'm deeply aware of the consecuences and I rather go thru life with a little pain than be "drugged up" all the time.
I see my doctor every other month just to check my condition and for him to know that I'm fine.

I'm pretty sure that people who abuse prescription medication also have emotional problems that they want to escape from reality and the drugs are a easy way out.
I personally just need my surgery and I'll get away from that medication as far as possible.
;)

[workshyslacker]

What was the medication they gave Jimmy? I'd be interested to look it up, but i can't remember if they said a name.

Too bad we didn't get a look at it. I'm guessing it was some kind of opiod-based compound.


Thank you.....I really hope Jimmy isn't addicted, but he was sure determined to hit that drip button before it was time. I know he was in some pain but the way he was so active in the hospital and in going to Davis' ambulance shows me that he wasn't in enough pain to require as much medicine as he wanted. A sure sign of addiction to me. Four pain pills at once is now being used as a crutch for his personal problems and not a good sign.

No problem. :)

[mjs1973]

I usually don't like it when they stray from the mythos in a negative way like this... but i don't really see an addiction to pain medication as that huge, and could easily be something that was there in Jimmy's past and never mentioned in the mythos because it simply wasn't important.

I wouldn't say it was OOC. In fact he felt very much like Jimmy Olsen to me, especially when he took that file up to Tess' office.

As much as this "appears" to be outside the Superman comic/movie/etc. world and how some people don't like the way they stray from mythos, look at Perry White. I thought the episode "Perry" was awesome. There are certain similarities between the two. Drug addiction. Perry was addicted to the bottle and Jimmy appears to be starting an addiction to the pain medication. Clark was essential in helping Perry realize that he needs to change his ways. Who's to say that Jimmy won't be helped the same way? I think that Chloe will do what she can to try and be supportive of Jimmy no matter how much he hurt her. She seemed real genuine when she wanted to work through the problems they were having. We'll just have to wait and see where these things end up.

[SnowBird]

Just because he's in pain and NEEDS the meds doesn't make him a drug addict, I have a condition that requires heavy duty medication and I don't abuse it but I take it in order to control the pain. Now Jimmy he might be using a little bit more than he needs because he's in pain but a different pain, the pain of loosing chloe. I blame Chloe this time...

I understand what you are saying and I'm sorry for what you are going through. I have experience with pain myself but I'm not on drug therapy for this. The meds I am on is saving my life as I have to take anti-rejection meds for a kidney transplant I received 12 years ago. The side effects have caused some irreversable bone damage.

I guess the key word in my mind for addiction is mis-use. Taking more than the prescribed amount which Jimmy is doing.

[kal-el_Girl]

I understand what you are saying and I'm sorry for what you are going through. I have experience with pain myself but I'm not on drug therapy for this. The meds I am on is saving my life as I have to take anti-rejection meds for a kidney transplant I received 12 years ago. The side effects have caused some irreversable bone damage.

I guess the key word in my mind for addiction is mis-use. Taking more than the prescribed amount which Jimmy is doing.

thank you for caring, I feel for your pain as well :o Those medications can be good but also can have awful side-effects, I'm sorry about your condition and may God give u strenght to keep fighting.

[SnowBird]

thank you for caring, I feel for your pain as well :o Those medications can be good but also can have awful side-effects, I'm sorry about your condition and may God give u strenght to keep fighting.

Thanks, medications are needed and sometimes are the lesser of two evils. So far so good with no rejections to date. I plan on staying around to see the last Smallville episode and that's why I keep wanting more seasons to give me a good reason to stick around...LOL...Well, that's not the only reason but to me it's an important one and I am that much of a fan:)

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As much as this "appears" to be outside the Superman comic/movie/etc. world and how some people don't like the way they stray from mythos, look at Perry White. I thought the episode "Perry" was awesome. There are certain similarities between the two. Drug addiction. Perry was addicted to the bottle and Jimmy appears to be starting an addiction to the pain medication. Clark was essential in helping Perry realize that he needs to change his ways. Who's to say that Jimmy won't be helped the same way? I think that Chloe will do what she can to try and be supportive of Jimmy no matter how much he hurt her. She seemed real genuine when she wanted to work through the problems they were having. We'll just have to wait and see where these things end up.

I liked the Perry episode and how Clark was able to make a difference in his addiction to the bottle. Sure wish they would bring Perry back next season.

[geminis]

No one has yet brought up the subject that Jimmy's medication almost definitely does NOT have a refill on it. Until and unless he goes black market when the skittles run out, Jimmy's all out of his lime green pain candy.

SnowBird, glad you're still around; transplants have come a long way but unfortunately modern medicine, despite amazing leaps and bounds in a short amount of time, does not have a cure-all for everything.

[kal-el_Girl]

Snowbird, Glad you're around and if your motivation to stay around is Smallville I hope it'll last 50 more seasons! Hang in there and be strong! =)

[SnowBird]

No one has yet brought up the subject that Jimmy's medication almost definitely does NOT have a refill on it. Until and unless he goes black market when the skittles run out, Jimmy's all out of his lime green pain candy.

SnowBird, glad you're still around; transplants have come a long way but unfortunately modern medicine, despite amazing leaps and bounds in a short amount of time, does not have a cure-all for everything.

Thanks, me too:)

No refill and that's what I'm afraid of. Maybe Jimmy will go to a drug dealer and we all know that Davis is out killing the bad guys. Hopefully Jimmy won't be at the wrong place at the wrong time. He doesn't need another hospital stay. I'm sure it will all work out since he has Clark for a friend.

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Snowbird, Glad you're around and if your motivation to stay around is Smallville I hope it'll last 50 more seasons! Hang in there and be strong! =)

LOL...I was trying to convince people for a S10 but it hasn't gone over very well. Maybe they will change their minds when S9 is a smashing success.

[geminis]

well, in my experience with pain (I have scoliosis and currently waiting for massive surgery) my doctor gives me two months worth Hydrocodone and I know is heavy but I don't abuse it! But if I don't take it at night I would not be able to sleep because of the horrible pain I'm in. Also I'm deeply aware of the consecuences and I rather go thru life with a little pain than be "drugged up" all the time.
I see my doctor every other month just to check my condition and for him to know that I'm fine.

I'm pretty sure that people who abuse prescription medication also have emotional problems that they want to escape from reality and the drugs are a easy way out.
I personally just need my surgery and I'll get away from that medication as far as possible.
;)

Hopefully your surgery is performed soon and is a success so you can stop taking the medication.

Unfortunately my niece is a casualty of medication abuse and it was 100% an escape for her. Fortunately, she did not follow in said star's doomed path but she is having to pick up the wreckage of her life. Also sadly, prevention is ignored when it would be much better than treatment after the fact. When doctors prescribe addictive medications, it would be best if they did so knowing the patient had a reliable support system at home and also set up expert follow-up and counseling by trained personnel but mental illness unfortunately still has a big bad stigma attached. The days of the family G.P. who knows you inside and out are pretty much long gone, especially in big metropolitan areas.

I'd say Jimmy has taken a dark turn and I'm not sure if I like it but it definitely makes him more human and less of a cartoon caricature. Addict, maybe. But I doubt it'll last.

[kal-el_Girl]

Wow! by the commentaries and experiences most of us have around here, I can see that prescription medication is not as uncommon as I thought. We cannot avoid to have illnesses but we must be strong and consider that sometimes the side-effects are worse than the very same illness we are trying to cure/control. I sure hope for everyone out there to be strong and keep any kind of medication under very close supervision. Family support is essential and I pray that whoever is out there having difficulty controling those meds to get help and consider that's never too late.
I wish you guys the best of luck and keep fighting the good fight.

[SnowBird]

I wish you guys the best of luck and keep fighting the good fight.

I too wish you much success with your surgery and you will join us back here soon after.

[geminis]

Thanks, me too:)

No refill and that's what I'm afraid of. Maybe Jimmy will go to a drug dealer and we all know that Davis is out killing the bad guys. Hopefully Jimmy won't be at the wrong place at the wrong time. He doesn't need another hospital stay. I'm sure it will all work out since he has Clark for a friend.

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LOL...I was trying to convince people for a S10 but it hasn't gone over very well. Maybe they will change their minds when S9 is a smashing success.

Yep, that's what I say; Jimmy is Clark's friend. You know, people have this idea of Jimmy as a young, wet behind the ears kid, and I like that version, but AA's Jimmy is interesting too. I can see him as enthusiastic, a bit of a geek with a marshmallow center but he also can be a risk taker like Lois, and with his life experience his reaction makes sense. Plus, who knows what cocktail Davis gave him? It's all pushing him over the edge. One more person who might be on Jimmy's side is Lois herself. She doesn't back down from a fight and believes in marriage; I can see her attempting to have Chloe and Jimmy work on their differences.

I hope season 9 is a smashing success too, and that would make me hunger for s10 as well. Smallville is my drug addiction and I keep wanting to feed it. :p

[SnowBird]

Yep, that's what I say; Jimmy is Clark's friend. You know, people have this idea of Jimmy as a young, wet behind the ears kid, and I like that version, but AA's Jimmy is interesting too. I can see him as enthusiastic, a bit of a geek with a marshmallow center but he also can be a risk taker like Lois, and with his life experience his reaction makes sense. Plus, who knows what cocktail Davis gave him? It's all pushing him over the edge. One more person who might be on Jimmy's side is Lois herself. She doesn't back down from a fight and believes in marriage; I can see her attempting to have Chloe and Jimmy work on their differences.

I hope season 9 is a smashing success too, and that would make me hunger for s10 as well. Smallville is my drug addiction and I keep wanting to feed it. :p

Talking about Jimmy's life. He does have a father who is an alchoholic and sometimes an addictive personality runs in the family...I like SV Jimmy and SV Clark because they are more than Jimmy as a go-for and Clark as bumbling. I want to see this stronger minded Jimmy that can do more than take pictures. AA sure did step up to the plate and prove he can be that kind of Jimmy.

Smallville can be addictive alright and I'm hooked for sure...LOL

[mjs1973]

I think this would be the perfect opportunity for Chloe to show Jimmy that she only wants the best for him. She doesn't realize that Davis "nudged" Jimmy to where he is at.

It doesn't help that his father is an alchoholic either.

[Kryptochloe]

They wouldn't showed the issue (especially last scene of Jimmy where he's takin more pills than what was indicate) if they wouldn't go that route. Jimmy will face addiction problems and we will see that on next episodes.

[Bizarrolover]

They wouldn't showed the issue (especially last scene of Jimmy where he's takin more pills than what was indicate) if they wouldn't go that route. Jimmy will face addiction problems and we will see that on next episodes.

Oliver was adicted for one episode and they resolved the matter immediately. I don't think they'll drag this much longer, it will probably be fixed in the following episode because, with the season finale so close, they can't waste time with Jimmy's problem and give it a serious development and closure. The spoilers say something about Ollie and Jimmy bonding so maybe they'll have a 2 minute chat to discuss their problems with drugs.

[ChlarkerFan]

Yeah, Jimmy will become an addict. Poor Jimmy!

[vkitty]

I put the wait and see approach. Just because he took those at the end doesn't mean he's addicted to drugs. He had an amazingly stressful night. I think and hope it is a one time thing. If not I'll see where they go with it.

[justice league]

when was he doing stuff with drugs

[AgentChaos]

It certainly appears that Jimmy is on his way to becoming addicted to pain meds. If it were just that one scene at the end showing him abusing his medication, I would think that was a one-time deal. Combine it with his first scene trying to get morphine even when the machine wouldn't allow it, as well as Chloe's demeanor demonstrating that this was nothing new, says to me that he is becoming an addict.

[Mr.Magic]

It certainly appears that Jimmy is on his way to becoming addicted to pain meds. If it were just that one scene at the end showing him abusing his medication, I would think that was a one-time deal. Combine it with his first scene trying to get morphine even when the machine wouldn't allow it, as well as Chloe's demeanor demonstrating that this was nothing new, says to me that he is becoming an addict.

Yeah, in tv lalaland we are to assume that he is developing a med addiction.

In real life he wouldn't be still hooked to a machine when he can get around without trouble (he knocked out and cuffed Bloomsday). The meds aren't really addictive anyway, or maybe I should say without withdrawal symptoms.
Been hooked to a dispenser for a month myself and didn't have any problems without the pain meds, except for some itching.

[RedKRules]

Jimmy is the newest version of House in SV.......:lol:

[smallvillefreak24]

im gonna hold off opinions until i see where they're gonna take this