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Alexander III
03-19-2009, 07:01 PM
That's just OUCH!! VERY VERY OUCH!! :eek:

theotherJane
03-19-2009, 07:02 PM
He's totally right. It was the biggest mistake of both their lives.

FLyxNERD
03-19-2009, 07:02 PM
i understand jimmys point of view and also chloes...except for taking davis side..

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:02 PM
my jaw was wide open at the point felt bad for chloe, but i loved it

madcatlady
03-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Jimmy's right. I feel bad for him.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

green_arrow_girl358
03-19-2009, 07:03 PM
chloe's fault in my opinion,. she didn't even check out jimmy's claims about davis. but that was kinda sudden and unexpected. lets not wait until we go home lets end it here at the hospital...

celita
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
Chloe behave really BAD on this episode......

6-Super-Man -5
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
I agree, OUCH!

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
He's 100% right what kind of woman is gonna dog her man out for someone she barely knows.

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
I'm on Jimmy's side, but I still felt bad for Chloe.

Harsh words Jimmy . . . but true.

tbird4u
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
That was totally wrong of him to say, everything else I agreed with though. :(

dru-zod2501
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
I'm surprisingly amused by the final implosion of the J.Chlo team. This is the first time they've been together and I didn't cringe.

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

A word of warning before the tasering would have been nice.

davidbrenton
03-19-2009, 07:04 PM
Go jimmy!!!!

Smallville6
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
I dont blame him! Chloe has been a horrible wife! Although I will miss my Chimmy :(

celita
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

Excuse.me Jimmy was in no way indrugs when Chloe didn't believe him and believed Davis over him.

Jimmy is now like this beacuse of Chloe.

SuperFat
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
I felt really sad/bad for Chloe after watching the ending.
:(

skylar
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
I agree with Jimmy Chloe SUCKS!!!

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
chloe's fault in my opinion,. she didn't even check out jimmy's claims about davis. but that was kinda sudden and unexpected. lets not wait until we go home lets end it here at the hospital...

Exactly. So much for great investigative skills.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:05 PM
A word of warning before the tasering would have been nice.

What are you supposed to say to someone who is psycho? I'm going to taser you if you don't stop losing your mind and trying to hurt someone!?

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:06 PM
she should have at least heard him out before tazering him like he was some kind of criminal. That's her husband for god sakes, that's really messed up IMO.

O'Neill
03-19-2009, 07:06 PM
I think its time for Chloe to go... or join the dark side. She condemns Clark for defending Tess, yet shes the one defending Doomsday of all people.

Yep, I just checked.... its official... she needs to go!

Darth Pipes
03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Settling for Jimmy was the biggest mistake of Chloe's life. Lana and Lois have billionaires throwing themselves at them and Chloe has to settle for Jimmy The Creepy Two-Timing Dullard. Hey, Jimmy...remember the time you dump Chloe so you could go out with Kara, then dumped Kara after she lost her memory and went back to Chloe?

Marrying Jimmy and Chloe was a mistake. She has more chemistry with Davis and she can't even be with him because of the nature of his character.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Excuse.me Jimmy was in no way indrugs when Chloe didn't believe him and believed Davis over him.

Jimmy is now like this beacuse of Chloe.

But was he acting like himself? No. Chloe believed Davis because Davis is supposed to be the expert in this situation. Had nothing to do with her choosing one over the other.

celita
03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Chloe needs to die fast......

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
What are you supposed to say to someone who is psycho? I'm going to taser you if you don't stop losing your mind and trying to hurt someone!?

Oh I dunno - maybe something like STOP JIMMY?

Blugolds22
03-19-2009, 07:07 PM
I really hate who Chloe is becoming. Jimmy was on point when he said marrying her was the biggest mistake of his life.

6-Super-Man -5
03-19-2009, 07:08 PM
I dont blame him! Chloe has been a horrible wife! Although I will miss my Chimmy :(

Yeah, I agree! :(

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:08 PM
What are you supposed to say to someone who is psycho? I'm going to taser you if you don't stop losing your mind and trying to hurt someone!? Complete bull!! If she would have stood by her husband when he said he saw that creepy guy kill that man then maybe said creepy guy would not have had a chance to drug him to make him psycho.

celita
03-19-2009, 07:08 PM
But was he acting like himself? No. Chloe believed Davis because Davis is supposed to be the expert in this situation. Had nothing to do with her choosing one over the other.

She didn't even think in hearing Jimmy....

Who am I kidding Chloe is saint :rolleyes:

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:08 PM
she should have at least heard him out before tazering him like he was some kind of criminal. That's her husband for god sakes, that's really messed up IMO.

She didn't even TRY to stop him by yelling at him or getting in the way. It's not the Chloe I know.

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
OH....That was just a knife in the heart!
I agreed with everything he was saying up until that point.

He was totally justified in being mad, and Chloe saying "Can we discuss this at home." Would have honestly pissed me off too.

But he took it too far, he has suficiently made his point without saying that, it was just cruel. :\

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
everything jimmy said was correct, chloe always takes everyone else side, she deserved to dumped.

moviefan2k4
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
It was a difficult scene to watch (at least for me), but in Jimmy's defense he was being as honest and sane as he knew to be. He knew Chloe was keeping secrets from him, about Clark and now Davis. Considering what he'd seen with that murder victim, it's no surprise that he finally had enough. He didn't want to be married to a woman who constantly kept secrets from him.

On the other hand, there's many things that Chloe knows, which she can't tell Jimmy for two reasons. One, he has an inherent anger towards most meteor freaks (of which she is now a member), and he also believes in total and complete honesty, regardless of the outcome. She doesn't seem to share the latter, and it's formed a major rift between them.

doodie8808
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Ok iam so happy for jimmy he was so right about everything chloe finally got what she deserved there is a god!!!!!!!!!!!!at least chimmy haters can rejoice! But he quit the dp stupid! Davis was hawttttttttttt! GOES TO SHOW MS HIGH AND MIGHTY IS NOT PERFECT!

-Nora-
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Best line of the episode. Jimmy deserves so much better than a woman who's had an emotional affair all season long.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Oh I dunno - maybe something like STOP JIMMY?

you would try to talk someone down before taking action? That someone who is about to hurt your friend? It doesn't matter if they are married, he was about to hit Davis over the head with a big metal bar. End of story. If she would have tried to talk him down he could have struck before she got her sentence out.

theotherJane
03-19-2009, 07:10 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

Well, when you have Chloe as wife, of course he's gonna be tripping. This woman would side with Huey, Dewey and Louie over her own husband.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 07:10 PM
RIP Jimmy. You'll either kill yourself from an overdose of drugs or you'll be sent off to rehab. RIP Jimmy.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:10 PM
It was a difficult scene to watch (at least for me), but in Jimmy's defense he was being as honest and sane as he knew to be. He knew Chloe was keeping secrets from him, about Clark and now Davis. Consideering what he'd seen with that murder victim, it's no surprise that he finally had enough. He didn't want to be married to a woman who constantly kept secrets from him.

On the other hand, there's many things that chloe knows, which she can't tell Jimmy for two reasons. One, he has an inherent anger towards most meteor freaks (of which she is now a member), and he also believes in total and complete honesty, regardless of the outcome. She doesn't seem to share the latter, and it's formed a major rift between them.

I agree.

Personally, I'm glad its over. They never should have gotten married in the first place. Up to never stayed together for so long. What a waste.

celita
03-19-2009, 07:11 PM
OH....That was just a knife in the heart!
I agreed with everything he was saying up until that point.

He was totally justified in being mad, and Chloe saying "Can we discuss this at home." Would have honestly pissed me off too.

But he took it too far, he has suficiently made his point without saying that, it was just cruel. :\

O you don't think is more cruel that your spuese believes a stranger over you?

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:11 PM
you would try to talk someone down before taking action? That someone who is about to hurt your friend? It doesn't matter if they are married, he was about to hit Davis over the head with a big metal bar. End of story. If she would have tried to talk him down he could have struck before she got her sentence out.

even the police have to annouce their presence before they take someone down.

ZODisGOD
03-19-2009, 07:12 PM
Jimmy wanting out, is the only good thing coming out of all these davis/jimmy/chloe scenes.

shamville
03-19-2009, 07:12 PM
They shouldn't of got marry in first place and jimmy never got hurt. He need worry what happen to her?

AgentChaos
03-19-2009, 07:12 PM
There is no way Jimmy would have even considered listening to what Chloe had to say. Chloe doesn't know about Davis being Doomsday, so from her perspective, Jimmy was high on pain meds and about to smash an innocent man's skull in. She did what she thought was right. Why is she being condemned for it?

myankskent
03-19-2009, 07:12 PM
It's amazing how the writers suddenly make Chloe and Jimmy's relationship seem so important after it was basically completely forgotten about for five episodes in a row.

nic25
03-19-2009, 07:12 PM
She didn't even TRY to stop him by yelling at him or getting in the way. It's not the Chloe I know.

ITA! She could have tried anything.Her husband should come FIRST!

miks
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
The police are strong and have guns, Chloe is going up against someone she thinks has lost his mind. Who is about to strike against Davis. I would have done the same thing.

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
you would try to talk someone down before taking action? That someone who is about to hurt your friend? It doesn't matter if they are married, he was about to hit Davis over the head with a big metal bar. End of story. If she would have tried to talk him down he could have struck before she got her sentence out.

Really? Because Jimmy has attacked her so many times before? Because she hasn't had to talk anyone down before? Because she hasn't been in tense situations before? She took more time to talk down street kid Plastique the murdering meteor freak than she did to take two seconds to yell so much as the word STOP at Jimmy before she tasered him.

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
RIP Jimmy. You'll either kill yourself from an overdose of drugs or you'll be sent off to rehab. RIP Jimmy.Yay, all thanks to the ball and chain who always picks others guys over him, even after he took a fatal hit in Bride for her. Here's hoping he's not the one who dies.

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Complete bull!! If she would have stood by her husband when he said he saw that creepy guy kill that man then maybe said creepy guy would not have had a chance to drug him to make him psycho.

Ok, thats true...but I can see both sides.

Clark had JUST told Chloe that she should be with Jimmy,because it was obvious he was having a hard time. Davis had a good allaby all worked up, and Jimmy was obviously losing it!

I'm sorry...but If I was in her position I would think it was the stress talking too. Davis hasnt done anything up to this point for her to think he's a killer (of course, we all know better). Then when Jimmy is banging on the door trying to "save her" and she isnt in the room.... :\

I for one dont know why ALL of the blame is being put on Chloe. The only thing she did wrong in this episode....was not believe in her husband under difficult circumstances, and....that whole tasering thing.

The person everyone should be made at is Davis!!!

celita
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
I am seeing ti right now, Clois will be Jimmy's rehab, with their friendship :biggrin:

Sports72Xtrm
03-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Hell yeah! Jimmy was the one to break it off with this crazy woman! So proud of him. Damn straight. Enough is enough. Look what Chloe has done to him. It was the biggest mistake of his life. Chloe is nothing but a superpower villian/hero groupie. No wonder Clark passed on her.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:16 PM
Really? Because Jimmy has attacked her so many times before? Because she hasn't had to talk anyone down before? Because she hasn't been in tense situations before? She took more time to talk down street kid Plastique the murdering meteor freak than she did to take two seconds to yell so much as the word STOP at Jimmy before she tasered him.

Does it matter that Jimmy has never acted like that before? All that matters is that he was acting like it now. She was scared for him and for Davis. She did was she needed to do. Plastique the murdering meteor freak was going after chloe and chloe alone, not someone else. chloe can't risk talking it out with a psycho when someone else's life is at risk. She's selfless, she can do that when it's her life on the line, not someone elses.

dru-zod2501
03-19-2009, 07:16 PM
OH....That was just a knife in the heart!
I agreed with everything he was saying up until that point.

He was totally justified in being mad, and Chloe saying "Can we discuss this at home." Would have honestly pissed me off too.

But he took it too far, he has suficiently made his point without saying that, it was just cruel. :\
After everything they've put each other through, that wasn't cruelty, that was brutal honesty. He finally saw he was never going to be her #1. Both sides share some blame here.

Level5
03-19-2009, 07:17 PM
I think Chloe did what was right, Jimmy was about to take Davis's head off! And Chloe doesn't know he's Doomsday.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:17 PM
I agree that both sides share blame. I just disagree that what Chloe did was wrong. She took him down the best way she knew how in that situation.

----- Added 30 Seconds later -----


I think Chloe did what was right, Jimmy was about to take Davis's head off! And Chloe doesn't know he's Doomsday.

My point exactly.

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:18 PM
Does it matter that Jimmy has never acted like that before? All that matters is that he was acting like it now. She was scared for him and for Davis. She did was she needed to do. Plastique the murdering meteor freak was going after chloe and chloe alone, not someone else. chloe can't risk talking it out with a psycho when someone else's life is at risk. She's selfless, she can do that when it's her life on the line, not someone elses.

Right, so Chloe comes out of this lily white and blameless while Jimmy who is now addicted to painkillers after the traumatic experience he went through trying to save his wife at the altar is the anti-christ. I get it.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
The police are strong and have guns, Chloe is going up against someone she thinks has lost his mind. Who is about to strike against Davis. I would have done the same thing.

That just goes to prove jimmy's point that she doesn't trust him.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Its funny that he had to go through marriage to figure it out. He thought that with a ring things would change? Even in ''Committed'' he expected Chloe to admit she loved somebody else. He kind of has it coming too.

She never shared any secrets with him. He even tried to spy on her. It wasn't meant to work.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Did I not just say they are both to blame? Please read my posts before you decide to quote me..

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
After everything they've put each other through, that wasn't cruelty, that was brutal honesty. He finally saw he was never going to be her #1. Both sides share some blame here.

ITA! Particularly with the bolded part.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:20 PM
That just goes to prove jimmy's point that she doesn't trust him.

I agree completely. Why should she trust him? He's done nothing that she should trust him worth, and vise versa! But at least she has a reason for not telling him everything.

myankskent
03-19-2009, 07:20 PM
That just goes to prove jimmy's point that she doesn't trust him.


Well, she certainly doesn't put him first, that's for sure. I think that Jimmy was right to ask her why she married him.

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 07:21 PM
After everything they've put each other through, that wasn't cruelty, that was brutal honesty. He finally saw he was never going to be her #1. Both sides share some blame here.

But he had already said "Why the hell did you marry me at all!?!"
And "WE have no home"

And I dont know what else....
My point is, saying "Marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" Was just Jimmy trying to be cruel.

He had already made his point loud and clear...and that point he just wanted to see her crumble. Which, I dont blame him..it's obvious he's heartbroken..and he wanted Chloe to feel the same pain.

It may have been the truth, but the only reason he said it was to hurt her

But I agree with you, they both share the blame.

Level5
03-19-2009, 07:21 PM
I think I missed something, because I don't see what Chloe did wrong? Jimmy was on drugs for all Chloe knew; Davis is a professional. Who was Chloe supposed to believe?

And about keeping Clark's secret, I think that's up to Clark to tell Jimmy not Chloe.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:22 PM
Chloe didn't believe Jimmy because Jimmy is acting nuts and Davis is manipulating the situation saying he had too much morphine. Chloe listens to both sides of their stories and Jimmy starts acting nuts. Davis is playing both of them and he's doing it extremely well.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:23 PM
I agree completely. Why should she trust him? He's done nothing that she should trust him worth, and vise versa! But at least she has a reason for not telling him everything.

I'm not saying jimmy's completly blamless, but you have to admit Jimmy did everything in his power to make the relationship work. I always thought Jimmy was more invested in chloe than the other way around and that's why I feel more for jimmy than chloe.

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:23 PM
I think I missed something, because I don't see what Chloe did wrong? Jimmy was on drugs for all Chloe knew; Davis is a professional. Who was Chloe supposed to believe?

And about keeping Clark's secret, I think that's up to Clark to tell Jimmy not Chloe.

You didn't miss anything :)

Level5
03-19-2009, 07:24 PM
Chloe didn't believe Jimmy because Jimmy is acting nuts and Davis is manipulating the situation saying he had too much morphine. Chloe listens to both sides of their stories and Jimmy starts acting nuts. Davis is playing both of them and he's doing it extremely well.

Yeah, so if anyone is to blame, it's Davis.

----- Added 57 Seconds later -----


You didn't miss anything :)
So what then? Do you guys just hate Chloe?

WickedJenn
03-19-2009, 07:25 PM
Before this gets too heated--

Please be respectful of others' opinions.

Thank you.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:26 PM
I think I missed something, because I don't see what Chloe did wrong? Jimmy was on drugs for all Chloe knew; Davis is a professional. Who was Chloe supposed to believe?

And about keeping Clark's secret, I think that's up to Clark to tell Jimmy not Chloe.

Keeping Clark's secret is not a problem. If Jimmy was insecure about Clark that's his problem.

But she couldn't tell him for a while that she ws a meteor freak, didn't talk about Isis, she can't share with him what went on with Brainiac, then there's Davis... I don't fault her but I think she should be with someone with who she can share a bit of this part of her life. Its huge part of hers and she couldn't share with Jimmy.

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Yeah, so if anyone is to blame, it's Davis.

----- Added 57 Seconds later -----


So what then? Do you guys just hate Chloe?

I don't hate Chloe at all and I understand her actions but it seems a lot of people want her to be evil. She's not though and I'm happy with that.

antx
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
I think that particular line was a bit cruel.But most of what he said was true.Chloe is always quick to take others side.Sometimes it doesn't feel as if she pays enough attention or treats him as he deserves.I'm glad Jimmy called her on that.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Yeah, so if anyone is to blame, it's Davis.

----- Added 57 Seconds later -----


So what then? Do you guys just hate Chloe?

Not gonna lie, [MOD EDIT] Chloe did nothing wrong. Her husband was acting crazy and about to brutally bash in Davis' head, so she stopped him.

chlark_loveme
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
There is no way Jimmy would have even considered listening to what Chloe had to say. Chloe doesn't know about Davis being Doomsday, so from her perspective, Jimmy was high on pain meds and about to smash an innocent man's skull in. She did what she thought was right. Why is she being condemned for it?

I totally agree. So we all scream at Chloe because she saw her husband going insane? She saw him wanting more drugs and she saw him pounding on a window having to be restrained. She didn't know that Davis was Doomsday. I would have believed someone who has medical training after seeing my husband act like this.

Dominicus
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
She didn't even TRY to stop him by yelling at him or getting in the way. It's not the Chloe I know.Agreed, people think I'm nuts but I think brainiac is in there somewhere, she touched Davis to stop him, her talking to him wasn't enough, he was barely listening. Brainiac can live in dormant inside a human vessel for years, slowly growing. Chloe's emotionally detached at certain moments, and looks to be feeding into Davis's psychosis, Brainiac knew how much Chloe meant to Davis I think it's a method of control, maybe. Sorry, for that ramblings. Anyway, what happened with the Chloe from infamous?:rotfl:Complete 360, the consequence of the Legion ring I suppose

morrigan01
03-19-2009, 07:27 PM
There is no way Jimmy would have even considered listening to what Chloe had to say. Chloe doesn't know about Davis being Doomsday, so from her perspective, Jimmy was high on pain meds and about to smash an innocent man's skull in. She did what she thought was right. Why is she being condemned for it?

Because she trusted the word of someone she's known for about six months over her HUSBAND.

I'm not a guy, but I tend to think anyone (man or woman) would take exception to their SPOUSE believing the word of someone they've known for only six months over their own.

I will be honest - if Jimmy had been accusing CLARK of murder, I could totally understand Chloe believing Clark's word over Jimmy's. And if Jimmy had said what he did in relation to it just being Clark, I WOULD feel sorry for Chloe.

But not this. Nope. This isn't Chloe having faith in Clark, her best friend since High School. This is Chloe having faith in the world of a guy she's know for six months, over her husband whom she's known a lot longer.

The ironic thing, of course, is that Jimmy was totally right about what he saw. And Davis was the one manipulating Jimmy not only to try and make Jimmy think he was going psycho, but to make Chloe believe it as well. Davis gave Jimmy the extra doses of morphine to make him hallucinate and try and cover his tracks.

In light of this, it's highly ironic that Chloe told Clark he was too trusting of people sometimes. Because Chloe is guilty of the same thing wrt Davis. I feel pity for the guy (I like Davis, I do), but he manipulated both Chloe and Jimmy to get away with what he's been doing. And Chloe chose to believe he was innocent over the word of her own husband.

GreenLantern16
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
chloe got what was coming to her because why would take sides against your husband. Chloe should be alone, because jimmy is a good guy and he deserves better.

Darth Pipes
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
From Chloe's POV it looked like Jimmy was about to do something he'd regret. So she stopped him.

The only thing I'm going to knock her on is deciding to hug another man right in front of the window to her husband's room.

pjack
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
Yeah it was her fault with the who Bloomsday thing. But we knew it wouldnt last. Who knows they might make up or either chloe may have little bloomdays running around soon. LOL:D

superdoomsday
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
Yes. Ouch words indeed but true words. Chloe took Davis' side right away and tazered her husband not to mention sending her cousin Lois to look after him while he was away at the hospital while she was sipping tea with Clark and Lana and forgetting to even call right after he took Doomsday's fatal blow to the chest to protect his wife. She pretty much deserved it.

GL2814
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Chloe got seriously burned!!!

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah, so if anyone is to blame, it's Davis.

----- Added 57 Seconds later -----


So what then? Do you guys just hate Chloe?

well marriage is about trust, and when your spouse starts believing in somebody else over you it is kind of demoralizing. She's known davis for what not even year and she completely sides with him, while jimmy risked his life for chloe. chloe got what she deserved

kg1507
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Man, when Jimmy delivered that line, my sister and I cringed. I know Chloe could've been more trusting of him, but that was just... ouch... I feel terrible for Jimmy too though.

celita
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Not gonna lie, most on this site blame everything on Chloe. It doesn't make much sense considering Chloe did nothing wrong. Her husband was acting crazy and about to brutally bash in Davis' head, so she stopped him.

Is note that only is about TRUSTING Jimmy since the begining...but nooooooooooooo lets believe the hot guy over her husband...

miks
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Yes. Ouch words indeed but true words. Chloe took Davis' side right away and tazered her husband not to mention sending her cousin Lois to look after him while he was away at the hospital while she was sipping tea with Clark and Lana and forgetting to even call right after he took Doomsday's fatal blow to the chest to protect his wife. She pretty much deserved it.

How do you know Chloe sent Lois to do anything? Lois left because of the Clana, she couldn't handle it. We don't know if Chloe sent her to Jimmy, we just know she went there and Chloe said she was going to relieve Lois of her duties. That's it. Lois went on her own free will.

Candice
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Well, she certainly doesn't put him first, that's for sure. I think that Jimmy was right to ask her why she married him.
Exactly. :(

celita
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Man, when Jimmy delivered that line, my sister and I cringed. I know Chloe could've been more trusting of him, but that was just... ouch... I feel terrible for Jimmy too though.

I was like O_o and then YAY!!!!!

Faby
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
He was right to do that...come on! The guy still in the hospital, but Chloe could have still believe the guy....after all, she chose him as a husband...even though, I never thought it would work....

RedKRules
03-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Whooooooooohooo, finally that marriage from Hell like Chloe called it last episode ended, seriously both were totally miserable in that relationship ........ thankssssss for ending it PS3 ...... now both characters can be themselves and seek true happiness :D

miks
03-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Is note that only is about TRUSTING Jimmy since the begining...but nooooooooooooo lets believe the hot guy over her husband...

Yes Davis is hot. But Davis is also the expert. Wouldn't you believe your doctor if he said something was wrong with someone you loved? They do know best...

And Chloe has never trusted Jimmy. She shouldn't trust him, he's not trustworthy in her situation if you ask me. But he shouldn't trust her either.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Yes. Ouch words indeed but true words. Chloe took Davis' side right away and tazered her husband not to mention sending her cousin Lois to look after him while he was away at the hospital while she was sipping tea with Clark and Lana and forgetting to even call right after he took Doomsday's fatal blow to the chest to protect his wife. She pretty much deserved it.

Chloe went to visit him at the end of Legion.
Maybe I should put it under my avatar as a reminder because it sink in here.

Poyntz
03-19-2009, 07:33 PM
There is no way Jimmy would have even considered listening to what Chloe had to say. Chloe doesn't know about Davis being Doomsday, so from her perspective, Jimmy was high on pain meds and about to smash an innocent man's skull in. She did what she thought was right. Why is she being condemned for it?

Agreed 100 Percent. On top of that Jimmy said something to the effect that she believed someone that was attacking him (i have to rewatch the scene i could be wrong) and as far as i could see. Chloe walked in to seeing Jimmy who is on pain meds as far as she knows with davis handcuffed to a fence and about to hit him with a metal object. Yelling stop don't clobber wouldn't of worked because he would of hit him by then. As far as Chloe knows Davis is just Davis. She has no idea he's a monster yet.

Also people are flipping about Chloe having an emotional love affair?? What affair. Davis Kissed her BEFORE they were married and she pulled away. Did Jimmy not dump chloe's as for Clarks pretty little cousin so fast then run back to her when the pretty little cousin lost her memory? Yep your right Jimmy is a saint peeps!!!

Personally I hate what they are doing to All my beloved characters on smallville. I think i'm going to go watch some past seasons to cheer myself up. :(

Candice
03-19-2009, 07:33 PM
How do you know Chloe sent Lois to do anything? Lois left because of the Clana, she couldn't handle it. We don't know if Chloe sent her to Jimmy, we just know she went there and Chloe said she was going to relieve Lois of her duties. That's it. Lois went on her own free will.

And suddenly you are a mind-reader and know why Lois Lane took care of Jimmy? :rolleyes:

Lois didn't have to go to Star City to get away from Clark and Lana if that is why she decided to take care of Jimmy. She could have done what she always does--bury herself in her work. Instead, she saw that a family member needed help (and yeah, to Lois Jimmy became family this season after she realized Chloe loved him dearly and that their love was true) and did what Lois Lane always does when it comes to family, becoming fiercely loyal and protective of them.

Lois took care of Jimmy because she cared for him and she cared for her cousin.

So please let's not make it seem like Lois only took care of Jimmy to get away from Clana because that is simply not true.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Yes Davis is hot. But Davis is also the expert. Wouldn't you believe your doctor if he said something was wrong with someone you loved? They do know best...

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Davis is a paramedic not a mental health expert.

Level5
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Because she trusted the word of someone she's known for about six months over her HUSBAND.

I'm not a guy, but I tend to think anyone (man or woman) would take exception to their SPOUSE believing the word of someone they've known for only six months over their own.


Davis is a Medical Professional, Jimmy was on pain meds. I wouldn't get why Chloe wouldn't believe Davis over Jimmy in that situation.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Jimmy pretty much just handed his wife over to Davis. He'll comfort her and provide a shoulder to catch those tears that Jimmy's words have caused. So sorry to see how easily he's give up on his marriage.

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Well lets look at this situation for a different light. What if it was Clark crippled by kryptonite who said he saw Davis kill? We know who Chloe would have sided with. She deserved everything Jimmy said because he was right.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:35 PM
Chloe went to visit him at the end of Legion.
Maybe I should put it under my avatar as a reminder because it sink in here.

and she was back in metropolis the next episdoe sipping coffee and free wheeling with lana and clark.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:36 PM
And suddenly you are a mind-reader and know why Lois Lane took care of Jimmy? :rolleyes:

Lois didn't have to go to Star City to get away from Clark and Lana if that is why she decided to take care of Jimmy. She could have done what she always does--bury herself in her work. Instead, she saw that a family member needed help (and yeah, to Lois Jimmy became family this season after she realized Chloe loved him dearly and that their love was true) and did what Lois Lane always does when it comes to family, becoming fiercely loyal and protective of them.

Lois took care of Jimmy because she cared for him and she cared for her cousin.

So please let's not make it seem like Lois only took care of Jimmy to get away from Clana because that is simply not true.

This is not a Lois Lane thread. I was just saying Lois got away from Smallville. This is the Jimmy line thread, don't make my words turn into something more..

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:36 PM
Jimmy pretty much just handed his wife over to Davis. He'll comfort her and provide a shoulder to catch those tears that Jimmy's words have caused. So sorry to see how easily he's give up on his marriage.

Jimmy was hasty to find some girl in the Ace of Club. Too bad that Kara is not around to serve as a backup.

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 07:36 PM
I think I missed something, because I don't see what Chloe did wrong? Jimmy was on drugs for all Chloe knew; Davis is a professional. Who was Chloe supposed to believe?

And about keeping Clark's secret, I think that's up to Clark to tell Jimmy not Chloe.

I do think Chloe should have atleast looked into it. But I do recall her saying "Davis..I was here with Jimmy last night, he tried to get more medication and it wouldnt come."

It's not like she started off saying "Come on jimmmy, I've known davis for a few months...he's not a killer. Why dont you take some more medicine and go to sleep!"

People are giving Chloe way more flack then she deserves. I mean, put yourself in that situation. Your significant other has been through a traumatic experience. You try to get them to seek professional help...and they refuse. It's obvious they are in more then just physical pain, and they are trying to drown that pain with medication.

Then....they tell you one of your good friends killed someone. Ok...it's a possibility, thats why she even questions Davis..like I said before. But his story seems accurate, and he even tells her to ask the other doctors (which, maybe she should have). But at this point its obvious her husband is going through a lot.

THEN, she walks in the hospital to find him beating on a door....screaming her name, and fighting the guards. When she's clearly not in the room.

So...with all of that being said. People can honestly sit there and say they wouldnt share some of her doubts?? I'm sorry....I would have to flat out call you a liar then. :rolleyes:

The truth of the matter is....DAVIS is the one people should be mad at. He's good at hiding the truth at this point.

From what I can see everyone holds the blame tonight.

Chloe- Should have looked into the medicine machine, or tried to force Jimmy to get some psychological help (But I still dont think there was a lot more she could have done) She shouldnt have tased him...at least not that fast. Try to talk him down!

Jimmy- Needed to get off the pain meds! And try and cope with the accident. He's having a serious case of PPD. I think the problem is he has never worked out his resentment towards Chloes relationship with Clark....and now there's Davis. Like someone else said, its become obvious to him he will never be her #1. Which is sad for him, but he frankly isnt handling it well at all. And he's just as much to blame for their relationship falling apart as Chloe is. Plus, now he's addicted to pain meds??

Davis- To me...he is the one everyone SHOULD be mad at. He thinks its ok to go around killing "bad" people. Like he some how has the right to play God and decide who is worthy of life and who isnt. He flat out lied to Chloe...and yes, its seems convenient that he has feelings for her...and now Jimmys backing off. So he gets everything he wants. He had the perfect excuses...and then he drugs Jimmy so he hallucinates furthering his argument that "Jimmy is out of it."

Woo...I feel better getting that off my chest! :lol:
I just think its absurd that people refuse to look at the situation from all the angles. As far as I'm concerned....everyone messed up big time in this episode. The only good thing that came out of it...was Jimmy finally had the guts to come clean about his feelings. Which he should have done along time ago...which again, his own fault he never did.

But Chloe...by far.....doesnt own all of this blame being put on her. What would you have honestly done in that situation? :\

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:36 PM
Jimmy was hasty to find some girl in the Ace of Club. Too bad that Kara is not around to serve as a backup.

Yeah but who remembers that :rolleyes:

Mickey_Bickey
03-19-2009, 07:37 PM
Davis is a paramedic not a mental health expert.


:lol:

Poyntz
03-19-2009, 07:37 PM
I believe Lois went to Star City because she wanted to take care of her cuz's husband who had just been carried off by a beast and she knew that that was what her cousin would want her to do if she couldnt be there. But in a way a bit of it might of been in the back of her mind to get away from Clana... (well actually the real reason they did it was because it was in there stupid script that they never explain things untill the fans call bloody murder LOL

miks
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
I agree completely Andigirl. But Chloe is evil so I mean she should be the one to be blamed for everything.:rolleyes:

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
Well lets look at this situation for a different light. What if it was Clark crippled by kryptonite who said he saw Davis kill? We know who Chloe would have sided with. She deserved everything Jimmy said because he was right.

Being crippled by Kryptonite and going through psychological issues arent even in the same league though.

It's like comparing Apples and oranges. :\

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
and she was back in metropolis the next episdoe sipping coffee and free wheeling with lana and clark.

Yup. Because the writers find this convenient.

It remind me of when Lois took lot of flack in season 5 for leaving Smallville and giong into Europe while never checking on Chloe on disapeared after the triple tornado. I always thought it said more about the writing than the character. Its the same way i view Chloe in here.

Dale-el
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Nobody deserves to be openly put in there place. I feel bad for chloe. Jimmy new what he was getting into with her. He accepted it and married her.

Candice
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Davis is a paramedic not a mental health expert.

Whaaa?? Aren't they the same thing? :eek:

:rotfl:

But yeah, I can see why Chloe would take the opinion of a Paramedic over her husbands. Yup, I would do the same thing. Paramedics are just like doctors, right? :lol: :rolleyes:

miks
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Davis is a paramedic not a mental health expert.

Well clearly he's a doctor too because he's the one giving Jimmy medicine and telling the nurses what to do! :lol:

celita
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Yeah but who remembers that :rolleyes:

Oh sorry I forgot that being hypnotic atracted by a another planet queen is worse than believing a murderer

Silly me!!!

I should always remeber that when Chloe screws it

Poyntz
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Well lets look at this situation for a different light. What if it was Clark crippled by kryptonite who said he saw Davis kill? We know who Chloe would have sided with. She deserved everything Jimmy said because he was right.

Chloe would of tried to stop Clark from killing Davis also Not just chloe. She was trying to stop him from doing something he would regret later. Jimmy had no proof to chloe because Davis probably covered his tracks after jimmy found the body.

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Jimmy pretty much just handed his wife over to Davis. He'll comfort her and provide a shoulder to catch those tears that Jimmy's words have caused. So sorry to see how easily he's give up on his marriage.

chloe was hardly even into this marriage to begin with

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
I do think Chloe should have atleast looked into it. But I do recall her saying "Davis..I was here with Jimmy last night, he tried to get more medication and it wouldnt come."

It's not like she started off saying "Come on jimmmy, I've known davis for a few months...he's not a killer. Why dont you take some more medicine and go to sleep!"

People are giving Chloe way more flack then she deserves. I mean, put yourself in that situation. Your significant other has been through a traumatic experience. You try to get them to seek professional help...and they refuse. It's obvious they are in more then just physical pain, and they are trying to drown that pain with medication.

Then....they tell you one of your good friends killed someone. Ok...it's a possibility, thats why she even questions Davis..like I said before. But his story seems accurate, and he even tells her to ask the other doctors (which, maybe she should have). But at this point its obvious her husband is going through a lot.

THEN, she walks in the hospital to find him beating on a door....screaming her name, and fighting the guards. When she's clearly not in the room.

So...with all of that being said. People can honestly sit there and say they wouldnt share some of her doubts?? I'm sorry....I would have to flat out call you a liar then. :rolleyes:

The truth of the matter is....DAVIS is the one people should be mad at. He's good at hiding the truth at this point.

From what I can see everyone holds the blame tonight.

Chloe- Should have looked into the medicine machine, or tried to force Jimmy to get some psychological help (But I still dont think there was a lot more she could have done) She shouldnt have tased him...at least not that fast. Try to talk him down!

Jimmy- Needed to get off the pain meds! And try and cope with the accident. He's having a serious case of PPD. I think the problem is he has never worked out his resentment towards Chloes relationship with Clark....and now there's Davis. Like someone else said, its become obvious to him he will never be her #1. Which is sad for him, but he frankly isnt handling it well at all. And he's just as much to blame for their relationship falling apart as Chloe is. Plus, now he's addicted to pain meds??

Davis- To me...he is the one everyone SHOULD be mad at. He thinks its ok to go around killing "bad" people. Like he some how has the right to play God and decide who is worthy of life and who isnt. He flat out lied to Chloe...and yes, its seems convenient that he has feelings for her...and now Jimmys backing off. So he gets everything he wants. He had the perfect excuses...and then he drugs Jimmy so he hallucinates furthering his argument that "Jimmy is out of it."

Woo...I feel better getting that off my chest! :lol:
I just think its absurd that people refuse to look at the situation from all the angles. As far as I'm concerned....everyone messed up big time in this episode. The only good thing that came out of it...was Jimmy finally had the guts to come clean about his feelings. Which he should have done along time ago...which again, his own fault he never did.

But Chloe...by far.....doesnt own all of this blame being put on her. What would you have honestly done in that situation? :\Both characters equally have my wrath!! I can't wait for Doomsday to finally get rid of his embarrassing human half. >.>

deanropi
03-19-2009, 07:40 PM
I think everyone is being too hard on Chloe. The real blame belongs with Davis.

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:40 PM
Oh sorry I forgot that being hypnotic atracted by a another planet queen is worse than believing a murderer

Silly me!!!

I should always remeber that when Chloe screws it

Yup, that's exactly it. Good :)

celita
03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Chloe would of tried to stop Clark from killing Davis also Not just chloe. She was trying to stop him from doing something he would regret later. Jimmy had no proof to chloe because Davis probably covered his tracks after jimmy found the body.

She wouldn't have needed to stop Calrk because she FROM THE BEGINING wuould have believe him...not like she did with Jimmy

Darth Pipes
03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Jimmy's character is a lot better without Chloe and it goes without saying that Chloe is a lot better without Jimmy.

ClubXerxes
03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Checklist for a "Doomed" marriage (pardon the pun):


Wife gets kidnapped by indestructible creature and possessed by super intelligent artificial life form? Check
Wife gets cured of AI presence, but continues to ignore her husband who has had his innards forcibly yanked from his torso? Check
Wife acts cold and aloof around ailing husband, but cries around a stranger, then hugs said stranger, all in front of ailing husband's hospital room? Check
Wife continues to drive out to Smallville to visit with another super powered alien, once again at the expense of time with her husband, who (in case I have not mentioned) is recuperating from the physical and psychological trauma of being rent piecemeal by an indestructible and rage filled creature from the depths of space? Check
Wife ignores all of husband's entreaties to look into the recent murder of a drunk driver at the hands of his wife's "friend", as well as her husband being drugged into thinking he is delusional...and to add insult to injury, takes the side of said stranger/friend when her husband accuses him of murder? Check
After weeks of ignoring her husband, taking the side of a weird stranger and hanging out with another alien, wife has the audacity to tell husband that the worst is behind them and that they can just go home, as if nothing has happened? Oh man...check

Jimmy grew a pair this episode...and in less time than it took Clark with Lana...Good for him

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Oh sorry I forgot that being hypnotic atracted by a another planet queen is worse than believing a murderer

Silly me!!!

I should always remeber that when Chloe screws it

He had the idea of being with another woman before Maxima appeared. No excuse there.

I think both are to blame in this relationship. It was an idiot decision from both to get married.

RedKRules
03-19-2009, 07:42 PM
All I know Chloe and Jimmy made the right decision ....... that marriage shouldn´t had happened ...... it was doomed to fail since its beginning :lol: irony much !!!! I know :lol:

SupermanRox
03-19-2009, 07:42 PM
I think that was a very harsh thing to say to Chloe. Geez, they just got married. I think he should give Chloe a chance. Jimmy has been through a lot lately. I think it is safe to say that he may be experiencing some paranoia.

Mickey_Bickey
03-19-2009, 07:43 PM
Well clearly he's a doctor too because he's the one giving Jimmy medicine and telling the nurses what to do! :lol:

You forgot Vigilante!:lol:

Dustmite
03-19-2009, 07:43 PM
He had the idea of being with another woman before Maxima appeared. No excuse there.

I think both are to blame in this relationship. It was an idiot decision from both to get married.

Of course he didn't. Jimmy is a saintly saint that saints.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:43 PM
Yup. Because the writers find this convenient.

It remind me of when Lois took lot of flack in season 5 for leaving Smallville and giong into Europe while never checking on Chloe on disapeared after the triple tornado. I always thought it said more about the writing than the character. Its the same way i view Chloe in here.

You mean when she went to go track down her sister? Not even close to the same thing besides season 5 opens whith lois in the ER so she didn't exactly run off to look for lucy after all.

Chloe sullivan is a creation of the writers, so everything she does is either good bad or mediocore writing. So by saying chloe is acting out of charachter or she is acting in an imorale way it's a reflection on the writers.

celita
03-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Of course he didn't. Jimmy is a saintly saint that saints.

Hey juust like Chloe!!! lets see who goes to heaven first.......

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Chloe would of tried to stop Clark from killing Davis also Not just chloe. She was trying to stop him from doing something he would regret later. Jimmy had no proof to chloe because Davis probably covered his tracks after jimmy found the body.It would never have come to that because she would have sided with Clark from the beginning. That is the point I am making. Jimmy was right because she is more loyal to Clark and Davis over him.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Screw Jimmy. He's a jerk. Yeah they both aren't trusting each other, but to purposefully embarrass her like that. Get over yourself Jimmy. You'll never find anyone as awesome as Chloe, and that one time stint with Kara was just luck, it'll never happen again. Chloe- you're better off. Now you can be with someone who you can openly share your secrets with, who have secrets of their own that you already know about...hint hint.

melissan02
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Jimmy's my new hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

He and Oliver are the men with the cahones on this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's what you get Chloe!! Take it, take it, take it!!!!!!

rehana/chole
03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
ok i thought those line were ment for chole 2 say . i dont like jimmy the dude has issues . who can blame chole for not trustin him he tences 2 get angry judgemental, crazy he hate anybody who those not seem normal 2 him he spy on her dump her never called her, he jealious of clark, davis any anyboy who look at her, he those not trust her 2 in away neither of then trust each other. i was sad for chole at end but glad that it over an we can c wat reALY HAPPEN 2 HER she not here slef or writer taken away all of past charater chole ( miles chole )an put there owm spin. i have alwa like chole an she is not a bad wife for god sake just bcause the writer did not mention him hows that chole fault. and of course she belive davis over jimmy who acting like sickoo in here it jimmy, but then again they did kill her again?forshowimg ?

minerva73
03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
As harsh as what Jimmy said to Chloe was harsh, I'm glad it was said. I feel bad for Chloe, but at the same time she can't just shuffle away Clark's presence in her life because she wants to make ends meet with Jimmy. It was the same thing with Lana in S6. She couldn't shuffle Clark out of her life because she wanted to be with Lex.

I think that next week, Chloe needs to ask Jimmy why did he decide to get back with her in Hero. If he didn't just go right back to Chloe after dumping Kara/after getting dumped by Kara, then this whole situation wouldn't have happened. Chloe was willing to have a friendship with Jimmy since Lara. :\

celita
03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Scerew it Jimmy go and find another blnde,..Kara come back or even Lucy!! they will treat you better than that jackoff of Chloe.

She was jerk PERIOD!!! she should have at leat listening to you since the begining....sign the divorce papers and let her die alone with her chupacabra

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:47 PM
You mean when she went to go track down her sister? Not even close to the same thing besides season 5 opens whith lois in the ER so she didn't exactly run off to look for lucy after all.

Chloe sullivan is a creation of the writers, so everything she does is either good bad or mediocore writing. So by saying chloe is acting out of charachter or she is acting in an imorale way it's a reflection on the writers.

Chloe's appartment was ransacked and her friend was kidnapped. Same thing. In the end , Chloe had to be in these episodes and the writers inlcuded in no matter what.


I think that next week, Chloe needs to ask Jimmy why did he decide to get back with her in Hero. If he didn't just go right back to Chloe after dumping Kara/after getting dumped by Kara, then this whole situation wouldn't have happened. Chloe was willing to have a friendship with Jimmy since Lara.

Or why did he ask her to marry him when up to Abyss he kept being jealous of Clark.:rolleyes:

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:47 PM
I think everyone is being too hard on Chloe. The real blame belongs with Davis.

well of course davis is to blame for some of this, but you can't tear a marrige apart unless there are torn seems to sink you teeth into.

miks
03-19-2009, 07:47 PM
It would never have come to that because she would have sided with Clark from the beginning. That is the point I am making. Jimmy was right because she is more loyal to Clark and Davis over him.

Those are two completely different things! Of course Chloe would have believed Clark, he's her best friend! She's not loyal to Davis! What has she done that is loyal to Davis? She didn't take his side? Because Davis is clearly in this episode the doctor and Chloe believes the doctor over Jimmy's crazy self.

Poyntz
03-19-2009, 07:48 PM
She wouldn't have needed to stop Calrk because she FROM THE BEGINING wuould have believe him...not like she did with Jimmy


Your right!! She should of believed jimmy. Lets look at the evidence she seen..
Jimmy on meds irritable and refusing help when she suggested it.
Jimmy in hall screaming for chloe because the big monster was taking chloe away. (Hallusination)
She arrives after his call to her to find him having Davis Handcuffed to a fence with a pipe over his head about to clobber him!!

No If she came to the scene with that evidence and it was clark she would of stopped clark too. (of course not with a tazer gun since that wouldn't work)

Sports72Xtrm
03-19-2009, 07:49 PM
Of course Chimmy would never work. They have nothing in common. Jimmy sides with Chloe no matter what. Chloe chooses to side with a murderer over him. Jimmy saves lives. Chloe ends them (Sebastian). Jimmy finds a big scoop as a photographer reporter and gives the DP a big headline: Davis Bloom Alien Monster. Chloe gets fired from the DP. Nope why should it work.:mad:

minerva73
03-19-2009, 07:50 PM
Chloe would of tried to stop Clark from killing Davis also Not just chloe. She was trying to stop him from doing something he would regret later. Jimmy had no proof to chloe because Davis probably covered his tracks after jimmy found the body.

Exactly. Even if Chloe would've sided with Clark, it's because she would want to protect him from doing something he'd regret. Lana wasn't in love with Oliver in Bride, but she tried to stop him from killing Lex (if he found him). So how much more for a married woman like Chloe?

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:51 PM
. Jimmy sides with Chloe no matter what.

I must have missed something in Sleeper. And Arctic.

latingirl
03-19-2009, 07:51 PM
Go Jimmy you are so right!!!

Poor Chloe believing in Davis.... Maybe when she knows the truth she is going to protect him (jimmy), I still think that more all her mistakes with him Chloe Loves him...

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 07:52 PM
Those are two completely different things! Of course Chloe would have believed Clark, he's her best friend! She's not loyal to Davis! What has she done that is loyal to Davis? She didn't take his side? Because Davis is clearly in this episode the doctor and Chloe believes the doctor over Jimmy's crazy self.

Family comes first no matter what some paramedic/doctor/serial murder says. If somone told me that my S/O was sick or emotionally distraught I would take them seriously, but being a "reporter" chloe could have at least looked into it. And this isn't the first time chloe has taken some one elses side over jimmy, and from his perspective she's being untrusting of him.

Deana
03-19-2009, 07:53 PM
Those are two completely different things! Of course Chloe would have believed Clark, he's her best friend! She's not loyal to Davis! What has she done that is loyal to Davis? She didn't take his side? Because Davis is clearly in this episode the doctor and Chloe believes the doctor over Jimmy's crazy self.It is not different. Jimmy is her husband, they are one. She should be more loyal to him than Clark but she is not and they all know it.

When did Davis get his PHD? I bet he purchased it from ebay! I must have missed that. I thought he was a ambulance driver.

morrigan01
03-19-2009, 07:53 PM
Davis is a Medical Professional, Jimmy was on pain meds. I wouldn't get why Chloe wouldn't believe Davis over Jimmy in that situation.

As someone else noted, Davis is a Paramedic, NOT a Doctor.

And frankly, everyone knows damn well that if CLARK had been the one accusing Davis of murder, Chloe would have at least researched the possibility that Clark's accusation was correct. She didn't even give Jimmy THAT level of trust. She just took Daivs' word about it without another thought.

Tatiana
03-19-2009, 07:53 PM
i think he was right, it was sad and tough to hear but i think she will realize he is right. I felt bad for him, poor guy he just came out of almost dying, traumatized over what happened and felt he couldn't save his wife, and then she goes and takes someone else's side

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

I agree that Chloe would have at least given the benefit of the doubt to Clark, like she did in prey, she got mad yes but she saw his point of view

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 07:54 PM
I think everyone is being too hard on Chloe. The real blame belongs with Davis.

oh yea make davis the scapegoat, chloe has treated jimmy with complete neglect finally jimmy was not willing to take that bull anymore. bravo jimmy

SV'S_immortal_hero
03-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Yes Davis is hot. But Davis is also the expert. Wouldn't you believe your doctor if he said something was wrong with someone you loved? They do know best...

And Chloe has never trusted Jimmy. She shouldn't trust him, he's not trustworthy in her situation if you ask me. But he shouldn't trust her either.

go back and watch "tomb" if you believe this, as im fairly certain docs tried to make chloe look insane but clark believed his friend!

lifelovedestiny
03-19-2009, 07:56 PM
I felt sooo bad for Chloe, that was a very touching scene. Even though it really doesn't matter to me whether she ends up with Jimmy forever or not. I felt bad for her and had to say, "JIMMY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!"

chlo-el
03-19-2009, 07:56 PM
Its funny that he had to go through marriage to figure it out. He thought that with a ring things would change? Even in ''Committed'' he expected Chloe to admit she loved somebody else. He kind of has it coming too.

She never shared any secrets with him. He even tried to spy on her. It wasn't meant to work.

I agree. Jimmy always had this feeling that Chloe didn't love and trust him. And maybe after "Commited" he was convinced but "Abysse" he still didn't seem convinced wondering why she remebered Clark and not Jimmy. He does have point. Chloe just doesn't love and trust him like a wife should. She's not at ease with him like she is with Davis. She doesn't spend her time trying to protect him like she was with Clark.

Chloe settled with Jimmy. She tried to convince herself that it's some fairy tale but it's just not.

liana
03-19-2009, 07:57 PM
I think that Chloe was not prepared to the kind of commitment of a marriage, and Jimmy was blind enough to not see what was right in front of him since the beginning. Yes, marrying Chloe was the biggest mistake of his life, but it was also Chloe's biggest one.

What we saw, today, was the culmination of a relationship that had serious problems since the beginning. Chloe never trusted Jimmy, loved him or valued him. Jimmy is not usually featured in SV as any more than Chloe's love interest, but whenever he is around, and he is part of the story, he is usually bright and smart, and yet, no one pays attention, especially Chloe.

In season 6, Jimmy was told Chloe that there was something very wrong with Luthor's limosine hanging around. She dismissed him, and he was right. There was something weird there: it was Lana's meeting with Lex's scientist. He also gave Chloe very important photo's, he didn't know they were Kryptonian symbols, but his feeling that it was something important was spot on. He also immediately realized that Lana's shooting wasn't just a random robbery, as both Chloe and Clark believed it to be, and they just dismissed it as if he wasn't there.

In season 7, Jimmy was the first one to notice that was something wrong in that photo from Lex's office, and he was the one that found out that Lex murdered Lionel. Not to mention that, even though he was fooled, he easily found out Clark's identity this season.
Jimmy's feelings on those kind of things are usually spot on. In fact, so far, he has never been wrong, but still, in spite of that, Chloe never verifies anything he says or believes he is right, not even after she finds out he was right.

It is just how she sees him. She is unable to see him as he really is. But he married her knowing that.

I have no doubt that Chloe likes Jimmy a lot, but not enough. They both deserve better than this. Was Chloe wrong in marrying him if she couldn't offer him the kind of commitment he deserved? Yes, she was, but so was Jimmy when he married her expecting something he knew she wouldn't give him.

But he said this line because he wanted to hurt her, and he wanted to hurt her because he was hurting a lot. And, I must say, I think he was hurting a lot worse than she was, because he surely loved her much more than she ever did.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 07:58 PM
Im not done with the episode yet, but all I have to say is "Oh no he didn't!" Jimmy has replaced Clark on my kick his butt list.

unfocused
03-19-2009, 07:59 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

:lol: How does that even make sense when it was BECAUSE Chloe took Davis' side that Jimmy is a "drug addict and going insane?"

I liked how Chloe didn't even argue with him. She had no place to even speak, all she could do was stand there and cry. That's all she can ever do...

cloisthelegendbegins
03-19-2009, 07:59 PM
I'm sorry but saying that Davis is the medical profession and therefore Chloe naturally believed him without questioning it is once again out of character. Chloe is WAY smarter than that and she knows what a paramedic does. If she doesn't it's not like she couldn't Google it. But she didn't investigate anything. She even SAID that Jimmy hadn't been able to get extra dosages of the painkiller from the machine he was connected to but DIDN'T investigate it when it was called into question. It's not like we're talking about a rookie here. And again I'll say this is her HUSBAND - a person she supposedly cares deeply about. I believe that from her emotional reaction at the end. But did she support him by looking into things? By checking Davis' story? By doing any of the dozen things she used to do in these situations?

No. She trusted every word that came out of Davis' lying mouth and dismissed her husband's words as the rantings of someone who was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Again. That's not the Chloe Sullivan I know. Davis who she barely knows was given more than the benefit of the doubt. Jimmy was dismissed as delusional.

Jimmy's last words WERE harsh. His decline into addiction is sad. Throwing away his job wasn't smart. But Chloe isn't the girl he thought he married. There are as many lies in that relationship as there were in Clark and Lana's for years IMO.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 07:59 PM
I agree. Jimmy always had this feeling that Chloe didn't love and trust him. And maybe after "Commited" he was convinced but "Abysse" he still didn't seem convinced wondering why she remebered Clark and not Jimmy. He does have point. Chloe just doesn't love and trust him like a wife should. She's not at ease with him like she is with Davis. She doesn't spend her time trying to protect him like she was with Clark.

Chloe settled with Jimmy. She tried to convince herself that it's some fairy tale but it's just not.


She's attractive, nice and still young. I don't understand why she felt the need to settle for this.

smallvillereporter27
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Your right!! She should of believed jimmy. Lets look at the evidence she seen..
Jimmy on meds irritable and refusing help when she suggested it.
Jimmy in hall screaming for chloe because the big monster was taking chloe away. (Hallusination)
She arrives after his call to her to find him having Davis Handcuffed to a fence with a pipe over his head about to clobber him!!

No If she came to the scene with that evidence and it was clark she would of stopped clark too. (of course not with a tazer gun since that wouldn't work)

Exactly! I cannot believe almost everyone on this board is saying that Chloe is the one to blame. Yes, she takes sides with others instead of Jimmy, but WITH REASON! This break-up is the fault of Davis for making it look like Jimmy was on too many drugs. Not Chloe. Not Jimmy. My sympathy tonight went to Chloe. I feel bad for Jimmy as well and I'm glad he stood up for himself, but he was a victim of Davis being manipulative, not Chloe. I know Chimmy needed to end, but this wasn't the way to do it. :(

DigitalKing
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. Did no one in this thread watch Splinter? When Clark has Jonathan by the neck, what did Chloe do? Did she side with Clark? Did she talk him down? No, she brought out the kryptonite, which Clark has said hurts more than broken ribs, and thus a heck of a lot more than a taser.

Clark was hallucinating and hurting someone who he shouldn't have been. Chloe took him down and rightfully so. But when Jimmy was clearly hallucinating (and to a much more extreme degree) and Chloe takes action, this entire forum drops the hammer on Chloe?

Wow, people. Wow. To the mods, I apologize if this is a little too pointed, but I don't know how else to say it.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
That's why the Chimmy marriage was soo stupid! Chloe was just settling for him, she thought she loved him but it was obvious to everyone but her. They never trusted each other and Jimmy jumped to another woman the first chance he got.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Okay, this is getting ridiculous. Did no one in this thread watch Splinter? When Clark has Jonathan by the neck, what did Chloe do? Did she side with Clark? Did she talk him down? No, she brought out the kryptonite, which Clark has said hurts more than broken ribs, and thus a heck of a lot more than a taser.

Clark was hallucinating and hurting someone who he shouldn't have been. Chloe took him down and rightfully so. But when Jimmy was clearly hallucinating (and to a much more extreme degree) and Chloe takes action, this entire forum drops the hammer on Chloe?

Wow, people. Wow. To the mods, I apologize if this is a little too pointed, but I don't know how else to say it.

thank you. The Chloe bashing is getting ridiculous.

Candice
03-19-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm sorry but saying that Davis is the medical profession and therefore Chloe naturally believed him without questioning it is once again out of character. Chloe is WAY smarter than that and she knows what a paramedic does. If she doesn't it's not like she couldn't Google it. But she didn't investigate anything. She even SAID that Jimmy hadn't been able to get extra dosages of the painkiller from the machine he was connected to but DIDN'T investigate it when it was called into question. It's not like we're talking about a rookie here. And again I'll say this is her HUSBAND - a person she supposedly cares deeply about. I believe that from her emotional reaction at the end. But did she support him by looking into things? By checking Davis' story? By doing any of the dozen things she used to do in these situations?

No. She trusted every word that came out of Davis' lying mouth and dismissed her husband's words as the rantings of someone who was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Again. That's not the Chloe Sullivan I know. Davis who she barely knows was given more than the benefit of the doubt. Jimmy was dismissed as delusional.

Jimmy's last words WERE harsh. His decline into addiction is sad. Throwing away his job wasn't smart. But Chloe isn't the girl he thought he married. There are as many lies in that relationship as there were in Clark and Lana's for years IMO.

Wow. This post is so powerful and so great. So much truth in it. :(:(:(

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 08:02 PM
I think that Chloe was not prepared to the kind of commitment of a marriage, and Jimmy was blind enough to not see what was right in front of him since the beginning. Yes, marrying Chloe was the biggest mistake of his life, but it was also Chloe's biggest one.

What we saw, today, was the culmination of a relationship that had serious problems since the beginning. Chloe never trusted Jimmy, loved him or valued him. Jimmy is not usually featured in SV as any more than Chloe's love interest, but whenever he is around, and he is part of the story, he is usually bright and smart, and yet, no one pays attention, especially Chloe.

In season 6, Jimmy was told Chloe that there was something very wrong with Luthor's limosine hanging around. She dismissed him, and he was right. There was something weird there: it was Lana's meeting with Lex's scientist. He also gave Chloe very important photo's, he didn't know they were Kryptonian symbols, but his feeling that it was something important was spot on. He also immediately realized that Lana's shooting wasn't just a random robbery, as both Chloe and Clark believed it to be, and they just dismissed it as if he wasn't there.

In season 7, Jimmy was the first one to notice that was something wrong in that photo from Lex's office, and he was the one that found out that Lex murdered Lionel. Not to mention that, even though he was fooled, he easily found out Clark's identity this season.
Jimmy's feelings on those kind of things are usually spot on. In fact, so far, he has never been wrong, but still, in spite of that, Chloe never verifies anything he says or believes he is right, not even after she finds out he was right.

It is just how she sees him. She is unable to see him as he really is. But he married her knowing that.

I have no doubt that Chloe likes Jimmy a lot, but not enough. They both deserve better than this. Was Chloe wrong in marrying him if she couldn't offer him the kind of commitment he deserved? Yes, she was, but so was Jimmy when he married her expecting something he knew she wouldn't give him.

But he said this line because he wanted to hurt her, and he wanted to hurt her because he was hurting a lot. And, I must say, I think he was hurting a lot worse than she was, because he surely loved her much more than she ever did.

ITA! :)

It was the biggest mistake of both of their lives. When it all comes down to it...I think Chloe does love Jimmy, just not nearly enough. Or even close to how much he loves her.

You can even see it in todays episode.

Jimmy says something like "See...this is how I know we're meant for eachother, If I big monster cant take you away from me...nothing can." Which was Jimmy once again wearing his heart on his sleeve.

Then when they go to hug....Jimmy looks like he's in love, and Chloe looks unsure.

I'm happy Jimmy finally had the guts to come out and say it all, but I honestly think he should have done it along time ago. He acts like he's surprised by all of this? He's known all along...and just chose to continually ignore it.

He definitely holds some blame here...they all do.

colibri
03-19-2009, 08:02 PM
It was a harsh thing for Jimmy to say and I did feel bad for Chloe but I also recognized the truth is what he was saying. Some of the things that Chloe has done this season have been iffy and, for the most part, I've been able to overlook them but this episode really did not paint Chloe in a good light and with some of the things we've seen from Chloe this season, it's starting to add up.

Kryptochloe
03-19-2009, 08:03 PM
So, summarizing... here's is happening something that I had never seen on this place.... Almost all agree that the end of that marriage is the right thing...

myankskent
03-19-2009, 08:03 PM
And again I'll say this is her HUSBAND - a person she supposedly cares deeply about. I believe that from her emotional reaction at the end. But did she support him by looking into things? By checking Davis' story? By doing any of the dozen things she used to do in these situations?


Yeah, and on top of that, she tasered Jimmy for no reason. She doesn't know that Davis is Doomsday so is there any reason why she wouldn't try opening her mouth to get Jimmy to stop what he was doing to Davis?

Level5
03-19-2009, 08:03 PM
As someone else noted, Davis is a Paramedic, NOT a Doctor.

And frankly, everyone knows damn well that if CLARK had been the one accusing Davis of murder, Chloe would have at least researched the possibility that Clark's accusation was correct. She didn't even give Jimmy THAT level of trust. She just took Daivs' word about it without another thought.

Paramedics know a lot about medicine too. And I believe they would be able to tell when someone is on drugs.

She probably would have asked if he was on black kryptonite. Because if Clark was acting like that, then he probably would be.

And I'm just saying that Davis made it look like Jimmy had too many drugs in his system and was seeing things. Now, if Jimmy wasn't even in the hospital, then she probably would have believed him.

Candice
03-19-2009, 08:04 PM
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. Did no one in this thread watch Splinter? When Clark has Jonathan by the neck, what did Chloe do? Did she side with Clark? Did she talk him down? No, she brought out the kryptonite, which Clark has said hurts more than broken ribs, and thus a heck of a lot more than a taser.

Clark was hallucinating and hurting someone who he shouldn't have been. Chloe took him down and rightfully so. But when Jimmy was clearly hallucinating (and to a much more extreme degree) and Chloe takes action, this entire forum drops the hammer on Chloe?

Wow, people. Wow. To the mods, I apologize if this is a little too pointed, but I don't know how else to say it.

You are obviously not reading the posts that talk about how Chloe could have AVOIDED the taser scene by actually trusting Jimmy at the very BEGINNING of the episode. He's her husband, and even if he wasn't, and just a friend, Chloe should have listened to him and at least tried to investigate. But did she? No.

And that's why a lot of people are criticizing Chloe. Because she didn't act like a wife, or a friend or even a reporter in this episode. She acted quite dumbly if I have to put it bluntly.

Poyntz
03-19-2009, 08:04 PM
where do you say she never questioned what Davis said? She did. She said when she was there earlier the machine was working just fine. I think she was sceptical a bit about it did sort of believe something was going until she walked into jimmy on the floor freaking out about chloe being taken away by the monster. Oh wait i guess chloe was supose to believe that Jimmy really saw that even though she was standing right there.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:04 PM
:lol: How does that even make sense when it was BECAUSE Chloe took Davis' side that Jimmy is a "drug addict and going insane?"

I liked how Chloe didn't even argue with him. She had no place to even speak, all she could do was stand there and cry. That's all she can ever do...

Jimmy was going insane way before Chloe had anything to do with it. Davis was only confirming her fears. She only cried because there is no point in fighting for someone who just publicly embarrassed you in front of a bunch of people. I would most definitely not want to be with someone that does that to me. Especially because Chloe is saying can we talk about this privately, but no he has to be a jerk and scream it to everyone in the room. I felt bad for Jimmy for a large part of this episode, but that just pissed me off.

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 08:05 PM
:lol: How does that even make sense when it was BECAUSE Chloe took Davis' side that Jimmy is a "drug addict and going insane?"

I liked how Chloe didn't even argue with him. She had no place to even speak, all she could do was stand there and cry. That's all she can ever do...

I do agree with you...but Jimmy was obviously having issues before the whole "Davis is killing people" thing.

He kept pushing his medicine button trying to get more meds, he had a short temper...and he was jumpy about whether or not the creature was still out there.

I dont think he's a drug addict, and I dont think Chloe should have sided with Davis. I think both Chloe and Jimmy have been in denial for a long time...and Davis is manipulating them both.

Candice
03-19-2009, 08:05 PM
Yeah, and on top of that, she tasered Jimmy for no reason. She doesn't know that Davis is Doomsday so is there any reason why she wouldn't try opening her mouth to get Jimmy to stop what he was doing to Davis?
Exactly.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


So, summarizing... here's is happening something that I had never seen on this place.... Almost all agree that the end of that marriage is the right thing...
Yes. Jimmy deserves better. He deserves someone who will honestly love him and trust him. He doesn't need Lana 2.0.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 08:07 PM
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. Did no one in this thread watch Splinter? When Clark has Jonathan by the neck, what did Chloe do? Did she side with Clark? Did she talk him down? No, she brought out the kryptonite, which Clark has said hurts more than broken ribs, and thus a heck of a lot more than a taser.

Clark was hallucinating and hurting someone who he shouldn't have been. Chloe took him down and rightfully so. But when Jimmy was clearly hallucinating (and to a much more extreme degree) and Chloe takes action, this entire forum drops the hammer on Chloe?

Wow, people. Wow. To the mods, I apologize if this is a little too pointed, but I don't know how else to say it.


Lana was there in Splinter to receive the bashing. Now that she's gone there's Chloe. ;)

AndiGirl
03-19-2009, 08:07 PM
Yeah, and on top of that, she tasered Jimmy for no reason. She doesn't know that Davis is Doomsday so is there any reason why she wouldn't try opening her mouth to get Jimmy to stop what he was doing to Davis?

Jimmy had Davis handcuffed...with a big metal bar in his hand......and he has been out of it 99% of the episode.

I agree, tasering...not the best choice in the world. But there was no reasoning with Jimmy. Especially since we all know he was right, but there's no way Chloe could have known that. Davis made sure of it. :rolleyes:

DigitalKing
03-19-2009, 08:08 PM
You are obviously not reading the posts that talk about how Chloe could have AVOIDED the taser scene by actually trusting Jimmy at the very BEGINNING of the episode.Oh, you mean when he was fiddling with the morphine device? She should have trusted him when she SAW him trying to get a higher dose? And she did question Davis' account initially.

Deana
03-19-2009, 08:11 PM
In fact Chloe should have taken offense to Davis saying the things he said about her husband during that first confrontation. Before Jimmy was forced to be on drugs. Davis doesn't know Jimmy well enough to be able to judge if he was abusing drugs or not. He didn't know Jimmy enough to be able to say his behavior was erratic. He doesn't know Jimmy's normal behavior, period. She is usually smart enough for her spider-sense to start to tingle when someone is feeding her lines.

sunflowercyn
03-19-2009, 08:11 PM
Something that the writers should have brought up is that when you've gone through a traumatic life threatening surgery, family members are usually told that their loved one will be having problems with depression and angry is very common. Often the person lashes out at who is closest to them...ie his wife. So everything with Davis just compounded things for Jimmy and hence its not surprising that he lashed out at Chloe.

Karafan1
03-19-2009, 08:12 PM
I knew Jimmy was gonna say that in the last scene..

miks
03-19-2009, 08:12 PM
In fact Chloe should have taken offense to Davis saying the things he said about her husband during that first confrontation. Before Jimmy was forced to be on drugs. Davis doesn't know Jimmy well enough to be able to judge if he was abusing drugs or not. He didn't know Jimmy enough to be able to say his behavior was erratic. He doesn't know Jimmy's normal behavior, period. She is usually smart enough for her spider-sense to start to tingle when someone is feeding her lines.

She trusted Davis because he said a high enough dose of morphine will do that to anyone! It had nothing to do with knowing Jimmy or not.

Lilah
03-19-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm so on Jimmy's side on this. Anyone else she would have been up to her hands and knees with research.

Tebow15
03-19-2009, 08:13 PM
I am on Jimmy's side here. S8 chloe is not the Chloe I have grown to love, but she has put Davis above her husband and her best friends. I think they are turning Chloe over to the dark side and she will die in "doomsday", I think that is where TPTB are heading with this.

Lilah
03-19-2009, 08:13 PM
She trusted Davis because he said a high enough dose of morphine will do that to anyone! It had nothing to do with knowing Jimmy or not.

Nevermind that it's Davis fault he had that dosage since he did drug him

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Ive never been a CHloe fan but I am totally on her side in this. Jimmy is a punk and she can do better. Too bad that is leading to Davis who will eventually kill her.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Nevermind that it's Davis fault he had that dosage since he did drug him

And Chloe knew that how?! She saw Jimmy trying to get more meds, and he told her it wasn't working. Davis told them that it was working and that it was just shorting out every once in a while. So that means Jimmy could have gotten more while he was sleeping at night.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:15 PM
I'm on Chloe's side. This doesn't mean I'm against Jimmy, but what he said was over the top, too much. Davis' claims seemed a lot more believable than Jimmy. Everyone saw how he was screaming at the window think that Doomsday had captured Chloe when she was perfectly fine. It makes a lot of sense that Chloe would believe Davis. Jimmy was about to hit him in the head with a pipe. So I think Jimmy needs to calm down and understand where his wife was coming from. Fight for your marriage. She hasn't really don't anything wrong.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:16 PM
Nevermind that it's Davis fault he had that dosage since he did drug him

How the heck is Chloe suppose to know that?

smallvillereporter27
03-19-2009, 08:16 PM
In fact Chloe should have taken offense to Davis saying the things he said about her husband during that first confrontation. Before Jimmy was forced to be on drugs. Davis doesn't know Jimmy well enough to be able to judge if he was abusing drugs or not. He didn't know Jimmy enough to be able to say his behavior was erratic. He doesn't know Jimmy's normal behavior, period. She is usually smart enough for her spider-sense to start to tingle when someone is feeding her lines.

That doesn't matter. The point is that Davis said that and Chloe believed him because she knew Jimmy was trying to take more drugs. She was skeptical at first, but Davis convinced her otherwise. As I said before, Davis caused a whole binch of issues they've had to rise to the surface and explode in their faces. If anyone should be taking the blame tonight, its Davis.

chlo-el
03-19-2009, 08:16 PM
ITA! :)

It was the biggest mistake of both of their lives. When it all comes down to it...I think Chloe does love Jimmy, just not nearly enough. Or even close to how much he loves her.

You can even see it in todays episode.

Jimmy says something like "See...this is how I know we're meant for eachother, If I big monster cant take you away from me...nothing can." Which was Jimmy once again wearing his heart on his sleeve.

Then when they go to hug....Jimmy looks like he's in love, and Chloe looks unsure.

I'm happy Jimmy finally had the guts to come out and say it all, but I honestly think he should have done it along time ago. He acts like he's surprised by all of this? He's known all along...and just chose to continually ignore it.

He definitely holds some blame here...they all do.

I soooo agree with you. They both were in denial. THey liked to pretend they live in a fairy tale but they choose to ignore they didn't live in realty. It could be argued that their only problem was that she had to keep Clark's secret she couldn't be honest with him she couldn't trust him when she was carrying such a secret when it was not hers. But then this time the secret she was carrying was hers to tell about Davis kissing her. there is so much that she told Davis that she didn't tell Jimmy. This shows she doesn't love and trust him. I really hope this takes her out of denial ville and she realizes she doesn't love Jimmy enough to marry him. She shouldn't have married him.

Deana
03-19-2009, 08:17 PM
She trusted Davis because he said a high enough dose of morphine will do that to anyone! It had nothing to do with knowing Jimmy or not.Yeah, because it is like so natural to take the word of the man your husband said he saw kill someone over your husband's. Of course you don't investigate it . . . even if you used to be in investigative reporter. Like Blondie, you totally showed why you did not cut it as a reporter at the Daily Planet tonight. Kudos to you!! :rotfl:

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm on Chloe's side. This doesn't mean I'm against Jimmy, but what he said was over the top, too much. Davis' claims seemed a lot more believable than Jimmy. Everyone saw how he was screaming at the window think that Doomsday had captured Chloe when she was perfectly fine. It makes a lot of sense that Chloe would believe Davis. Jimmy was about to hit him in the head with a pipe. So I think Jimmy needs to calm down and understand where his wife was coming from. Fight for your marriage. She hasn't really don't anything wrong.

Exactly, Chloe believed what she was witnessing

unfocused
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
Agreed, people think I'm nuts but I think brainiac is in there somewhere, she touched Davis to stop him, her talking to him wasn't enough, he was barely listening. Brainiac can live in dormant inside a human vessel for years, slowly growing. Chloe's emotionally detached at certain moments, and looks to be feeding into Davis's psychosis, Brainiac knew how much Chloe meant to Davis I think it's a method of control, maybe. Sorry, for that ramblings. Anyway, what happened with the Chloe from infamous?:rotfl:Complete 360, the consequence of the Legion ring I suppose
If Brainiac was still inside Chloe, and could effect Davis with a touch... Doomsday would have broke out and went on a rampage, he wouldn't have retreated back into Davis.

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
yea well when i see my husband about to bash someone's head ill just let em do it! then all will be right in the world........or maybe jimmy was having another one of his episodes when he went crazy in the hospital for chloe to see so as to be able to plant the seed even further into the ground....he was seeing crap in the hospital b/c davis drugged him so he would look psycho to everyone on the ward and most importantly CHLOE.....which im sorry everyone is human and that is a little nutty and davis also rigged the charts too lets not forget that.....but its all her fault.........

not to mention jimmy is a quitter......big time marriage has its ups and downs and if he really loved her..he laid all that evidence for tess mercer but he couldnt show that to chloe and prove it?

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
Yeah, because it is like so natural to take the word over the man your husband said he saw kill someone over your husband's. Of course you don't investigate it . . . even if you used to be in investigative reporter. Like Blondie, you totally showed why you did not cut it as a reporter at the Daily Planet tonight. Kudos to you!! :rotfl:

Yeah when your husband is turning into a whack job and is about to start killing people. Screw trying to prevent him from doing it, just go start an investigation.:rolleyes: And let's just hope the boys stay in their corners until its done and you come back with your judgement.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
Yeah, because it is like so natural to take the word over the man your husband said he saw kill someone over your husband's. Of course you don't investigate it . . . even if you used to be in investigative reporter. Like Blondie, you totally showed why you did not cut it as a reporter at the Daily Planet tonight. Kudos to you!! :rotfl:

okay you're not really arguing anything, you're just trying to bash chloe so please quote me when you decide to argue something.

Night_Hawk90
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
That doesn't matter. The point is that Davis said that and Chloe believed him because she knew Jimmy was trying to take more drugs. She was skeptical at first, but Davis convinced her otherwise. As I said before, Davis caused a whole binch of issues they've had to rise to the surface and explode in their faces. If anyone should be taking the blame tonight, its Davis.

nope chloe is to blame:D

chlo-el
03-19-2009, 08:19 PM
That doesn't matter. The point is that Davis said that and Chloe believed him because she knew Jimmy was trying to take more drugs. She was skeptical at first, but Davis convinced her otherwise. As I said before, Davis caused a whole binch of issues they've had to rise to the surface and explode in their faces. If anyone should be taking the blame tonight, its Davis.

Well, good thing he did. Other wise these to would be continue living in denial ville not confronting any issues at all. Living fake lives together.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:22 PM
okay you're not really arguing anything, you're just trying to bash chloe so please quote me when you decide to argue something.

Chloe could have said something before tazing her own husband, she could have yelled run around and done the chicken dance W/E.

My point is that her pattern started long before tonite, she has consistantly taken everyone elses side over jimmys since the word go, and tonight is just a glaring example of that.

Deana
03-19-2009, 08:22 PM
Yeah when your husband is turning into a whack job and is about to start killing people. Screw trying to prevent him from doing it, just go start an investigation.:rolleyes: And let's just hope the boys stay in their corners until its done and you come back with your judgement.If she would have believed the truth before then . . . there was a good chance Davis could not have gotten a chance to inject him in the first place. Chloe being the wife she was supposed to be from the beginning makes this null and void.

okay you're not really arguing anything, you're just trying to bash chloe so please quote me when you decide to argue something.Trying, she did a good job of bashing herself tonight.

hanemg
03-19-2009, 08:22 PM
I don't hate Chloe at all and I understand her actions but it seems a lot of people want her to be evil. She's not though and I'm happy with that.

You know, you can screw up and make a dumb decision and not be evil. It’s not an all or nothing kind of thing. Admitting Chloe made a dumb choice doesn’t mean that you’re saying she’s the worst villain since Hitler and should roast in Hades. All of the characters on “Smallville” have made dumb decisions from time to time, Chloe’s not above that. She’s human too.


Yes Davis is hot. But Davis is also the expert. Wouldn't you believe your doctor if he said something was wrong with someone you loved? They do know best...

I’m sorry, but Davis is a paramedic. That hardly equates him with being a doctor and it certainly doesn’t make him an expert in mental health. I’m not knocking paramedics, but I think calling him an “expert” is a bit much considering that it’s a situation far beyond his expertise.

The simple fact is that Chloe screwed up. She’s not an evil witch, but she did make a very bad mistake. Her husband, the man she took vows with accused someone of being a murderer. Now, was Jimmy on medication? Sure. Can medication, especially pain medication, cause psychosis? Sure. Can prolonged stays in a hospital cause psychosis? Again, certainly.

But here’s the thing, such psychosis isn’t confined to one thing only. You don’t become delusional about one instance and interact fine with the world in all other areas. And even more importantly, am I imagining things or didn’t Davis himself once express to Chloe that he was afraid he was a murderer? At some point I would have thought that little fact might have tickled a thread in Chloe’s consciousness.

Well, if nothing else, at least we all know now that whatever inquisitiveness she had as a journalist is completely gone now. She didn’t investigate a single thing. Didn’t check with the staff about the PCA pump, the supposedly missing drunk driver, the police, anything. I think that’s what got me more than anything. There were so many simple and easy to check facts to follow up on and she didn’t even look into the matter. She just trusted Davis blindly. Davis may have been convincing, but he didn’t exactly have to work at it either. The police took Jimmy’s accusations more serious than his wife did.

Does that make her evil? Of course not, but it certainly showed bad decision making on her part.

smallvillereporter27
03-19-2009, 08:24 PM
Yeah, because it is like so natural to take the word of the man your husband said he saw kill someone over your husband's. Of course you don't investigate it . . . even if you used to be in investigative reporter. Like Blondie, you totally showed why you did not cut it as a reporter at the Daily Planet tonight. Kudos to you!! :rotfl:

Its natural when your husband is on pain killers, has a short temper, and is still a freaked out about getting mauled at his own wedding!

I don't really understand all of this. Maybe the writers didn't a do a good enough job at depicting this: Jimmy and Chloe were being manipulated to believe a lie by Davis. Chloe cares about her husband, but she doesn't want to see innocent people (or who she thinks is innocent) get dragged down and hurt by him. How does that make her a bad person?

dreamsofnever
03-19-2009, 08:25 PM
It's both their faults, imho. And it's the writer's fault, because they needed Jimmy to look like the bad guy so it's all clear for Chloe and Davis to hook up. Which pisses me off.

Anyways, here's the thing... if you marry someone, you should know them well enough to know when they're lucid or not.

Honestly, if it was my husband, I believe I would know. If it was something that seemed outlandish, I would still look into it. And regardless, I would help him through it. I haven't seen Chloe's willingness to that.

But on the other hand, you can't give up on a marriage after only a few weeks. The vows include 'for better or for worse' for a reason. Hard things come up, but you, in theory, took those vows for a reason. You stick it out, you seek therapy. You WORK on the marriage. (I know, *there's* a concept)

But ultimately, I blame the writers. They obviously don't know how to handle a committed relationship and I wish they wouldn't use weddings and marriage as fodder for drama, but it is what it is.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Chloe could have said something before tazing her own husband, she could have yelled run around and done the chicken dance W/E.

My point is that her pattern started long before tonite, she has consistantly taken everyone elses side over jimmys since the word go, and tonight is just a glaring example of that.

There is no time to stop and talk before taking action when dealing with someone who has lost their mind. Who is this everyone else that Chloe has taken sides over? Clark. yes of course, that's her best friend. who else? Wasn't Davis because Davis was apparently the only "medical expert" around in that hospital so she listened to him.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:26 PM
yea well when i see my husband about to bash someone's head ill just let em do it! then all will be right in the world........or maybe jimmy was having another one of his episodes when he went crazy in the hospital for chloe to see so as to be able to plant the seed even further into the ground....he was seeing crap in the hospital b/c davis drugged him so he would look psycho to everyone on the ward and most importantly CHLOE.....which im sorry everyone is human and that is a little nutty and davis also rigged the charts too lets not forget that.....but its all her fault.........

not to mention jimmy is a quitter......big time marriage has its ups and downs and if he really loved her..he laid all that evidence for tess mercer but he couldnt show that to chloe and prove it?

ITA, I can't believe Chloe is being bashed for this. She was set up to believe that Jimmy was going a bit crazy. And it was a good set up. Everyone in the hospital seemed to buy into it.

----- Added 40 Seconds later -----


Yeah when your husband is turning into a whack job and is about to start killing people. Screw trying to prevent him from doing it, just go start an investigation.:rolleyes: And let's just hope the boys stay in their corners until its done and you come back with your judgement.

I know. I don't get this. Why is Chloe to blame here? Why isn't total blame being put on Davis?

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:27 PM
Chloe could have said something before tazing her own husband, she could have yelled run around and done the chicken dance W/E.

My point is that her pattern started long before tonite, she has consistantly taken everyone elses side over jimmys since the word go, and tonight is just a glaring example of that.

yea she taps him on the shoulder and high on morphine he swings the pipe around yea thats a smart move....considering she probably got to watch him hit em with it and also handcuff him to the fence and then when jimmy was giving him the love words in davis ear....maybe chloe thought something like her husband is a nut case???

that makes it real easy to believe that davis is the madman?:rotf but at this point she doesnt know hes doomsday and he set this whole thing up real good for himself...and now that he knows that she can "help" all the better
chloe is not evil for this...shes being duped....not to mention the real thing that pissed me off is that if he is still ticked about the clark crap wtf did you marry her for? he's a big time RICHARD for that....anytime he gets pissed hes gonna throw that in her face yea F OFF!!

Deana
03-19-2009, 08:27 PM
Its natural when your husband is on pain killers, has a short temper, and is still a freaked out about getting mauled at his own wedding!

I don't really understand all of this. Maybe the writers didn't a do a good enough job at depicting this: Jimmy and Chloe were being manipulated to believe a lie by Davis. Chloe cares about her husband, but she doesn't want to see innocent people (or who she thinks is innocent) get dragged down and hurt by him. How does that make her a bad person?I just started thinking, what if it were Clark instead of Jimmy who said he saw Davis kill. Then I got pissed off because I know she would have sided with Clark, even if he was so high he was singing "Purple Rain" at the top of his voice.

bychance
03-19-2009, 08:28 PM
I didn't really side with anyone here, the evidence is circumstantial. But yes, Chloe should of taken much more consideration of Jimmy's words.

melissan02
03-19-2009, 08:30 PM
ITA, I can't believe Chloe is being bashed for this. She was set up to believe that Jimmy was going a bit crazy. And it was a good set up. Everyone in the hospital seemed to buy into it.

----- Added 40 Seconds later -----



I know. I don't get this. Why is Chloe to blame here? Why isn't total blame being put on Davis?

She might have been set up to believe Jimmy was strung out on drugs, but she's digging herself in deep-----and that started LONG ago when she had this bru-ha-ha w/ Davis!!!:mad:
It'll come back to bite her...looks as though it already has!

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:30 PM
yea she taps him on the shoulder and high on morphine he swings the pipe around yea thats a smart move....considering she probably got to watch him hit em with it and also handcuff him to the fence and then when jimmy was giving him the love words in davis ear....maybe chloe thought something like her husband is a nut case???

that makes it real easy to believe that davis is the madman?:rotfl:
she is definitely not right for trusting davis but at this point she doesnt know hes davis and he set this whole thing up real good for himself...and now that he knows that she can "help" all the better
chloe is not evil for this...shes being duped....

Chloe: Well my husband might be the one who is acting like Jeffrey Dahmer on acid, but because he put that ring on my finger, and we've slept together I guess I'll just believe him based solely on that.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:31 PM
I didn't really side with anyone here, the evidence is circumstantial. But yes, Chloe should of taken much more consideration of Jimmy's words.

Which words? The ones spoken when he was high or the ones spoken when he was high?

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:32 PM
yea she taps him on the shoulder and high on morphine he swings the pipe around yea thats a smart move....considering she probably got to watch him hit em with it and also handcuff him to the fence and then when jimmy was giving him the love words in davis ear....maybe chloe thought something like her husband is a nut case???

that makes it real easy to believe that davis is the madman?:rotf but at this point she doesnt know hes doomsday and he set this whole thing up real good for himself...and now that he knows that she can "help" all the better
chloe is not evil for this...shes being duped....

when did i say she should tap him on the shoulder a simple "Jimmy!!" would sufice. But the whole shoot first ask questions later idea is good too :rolleyes:

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:34 PM
when did i say she should tap him on the shoulder a simple "Jimmy!!" would sufice. But the whole shoot first ask questions later idea is good too :rolleyes:

I think he was too high at this point. If she had tapped him, he might have hit her in the head and killed her.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Which words? The ones spoken when he was high or the ones spoken when he was high?

so jimmy should be dismissed because he was drugged. So we shouldn't listen to rape victims who've been drugged either...right.

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Chloe: Well my husband might be the one who is acting like Jeffrey Dahmer on acid, but because he put that ring on my finger, and we've slept together I guess I'll just believe him based solely on that.

LMAO!;) too funny

morrigan01
03-19-2009, 08:35 PM
Paramedics know a lot about medicine too. And I believe they would be able to tell when someone is on drugs.

She probably would have asked if he was on black kryptonite. Because if Clark was acting like that, then he probably would be.

And I'm just saying that Davis made it look like Jimmy had too many drugs in his system and was seeing things. Now, if Jimmy wasn't even in the hospital, then she probably would have believed him.

Not the point I was making.

The point I was making was that if Clark had said he saw Davis murder someone, Chloe would have AT LEAST taken into consideration that Clark might be telling the truth, and would have looked into the issue. She would have tried to figure out what Clark saw, or if he really saw it, while also wanting to clear Davis' name.

She didn't do that AT ALL when Jimmy told her what he saw. She just took Davis explanation, and didn't even entertain the IDEA that Jimmy was telling the truth.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:35 PM
I think he was too high at this point. If she had tapped him, he might have hit her in the head and killed her.

I never said she should tap him on the shoulder I said she should have yelled, I would have.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:35 PM
when did i say she should tap him on the shoulder a simple "Jimmy!!" would sufice. But the whole shoot first ask questions later idea is good too :rolleyes:

It is when you're dealing with someone else's life. If it were her life on the line sure she should try to talk him down. But it wasn't. It was Davis'. And shoot first, which was simply knocking him out, and ask questions later WAS a much better plan considering all she saw was Jimmy about to bash his brains in.

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:35 PM
so jimmy should be dismissed because he was drugged. So we shouldn't listen to rape victims who've been drugged either...right.


no i think he started getting dismissed when he was talking to a door! the one where he was yelling through the door and no one was in the room....maybe that had something to do with it.....very well played doomsday!

yea thats what i do to the crackheads downtown i come up behind em and yell at em....

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:36 PM
so jimmy should be dismissed because he was drugged. So we shouldn't listen to rape victims who've been drugged either...right.

If the rape victim is running around like a crazy person trying to kill her supposed rapist, then you darn well better tase her butt to prevent her from killing anybody.

celita
03-19-2009, 08:36 PM
I bet Clark would have believed Jimmy. At least he would have investigated

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:36 PM
Chloe: Well my husband might be the one who is acting like Jeffrey Dahmer on acid, but because he put that ring on my finger, and we've slept together I guess I'll just believe him based solely on that.

well jimmy ceartinly wasn't acting like jeffery dahmer, Davis is the serial killer here.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:37 PM
Not the point I was making.

The point I was making was that if Clark had said he saw Davis murder someone, Chloe would have AT LEAST taken into consideration that Clark might be telling the truth, and would have looked into the issue. She would have tried to figure out what Clark saw, or if he really saw it, while also wanting to clear Davis' name.

She didn't do that AT ALL when Jimmy told her what he saw. She just took Davis explanation, and didn't even entertain the IDEA that Jimmy was telling the truth.

There was no time to pull an investigation out of her butt. Shortly after Davis told her about the morphine, she saw with her own two eyes Jimmy acting nuttier than a squirrel! Tell me what she should have believed then?!

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:37 PM
Not the point I was making.

The point I was making was that if Clark had said he saw Davis murder someone, Chloe would have AT LEAST taken into consideration that Clark might be telling the truth, and would have looked into the issue. She would have tried to figure out what Clark saw, or if he really saw it, while also wanting to clear Davis' name.



If it's red K Clark, she wouldn't believe him either.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:37 PM
If the rape victim is running around like a crazy person trying to kill her supposed rapist, then you darn well better tase her butt to prevent her from killing anybody.

That's not what i said.

and besides if a cop tazered a woman who'd just been raped then he or she would not be a cop much longer.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:37 PM
so jimmy should be dismissed because he was drugged. So we shouldn't listen to rape victims who've been drugged either...right.

That is completely different. Apples and oranges. What Davis said made sense. EVeryone in the hospital was looking for that man. Jimmy was trying to get more morphine out of his drip. Jimmy was screaming at a window. Orderlies has to hold him down. It all added up.

With rape victims, it's not unlikely that they might have been drugged. Police officers are well acquainted with the date rape drug. Also an examination would be given. I understand that you are trying to make a comparison, but these situations are very different.

Storm45
03-19-2009, 08:37 PM
I bet Clark would have believed Jimmy. At least he would have investigated

So?...

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:38 PM
well jimmy ceartinly wasn't acting like jeffery dahmer, Davis is the serial killer here.

I know that
You know that
We all know that
Chloe does not know that! Stop judging her actions based on what we know but she doesnt.

celita
03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
So?...

so' I am not allowed to say that now? or allowed to believe that Clark that sometimes makes dumb decisions would ahev at leats teke in cosideratin wht Jimmy is saying?

I eman Clark believed Chloe in TOMB and she was almost on the same situation...being set up

wolverine316
03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
I am glad that Jimmy has manned up. Good that he told that hypocrite Chloe off!!!!!!!!!!!

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
I know that
You know that
We all know that
Chloe does not know that! Stop judging her actions based on what we know but she doesnt.

I wasn't judging chloe for davis's actions I'm judging her for her own actions.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Chloe did not believe Clark in SPLINTER. So if Clark were acting the way Jimmy was acting in tonight's ep, she wouldn't have believed him either.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:41 PM
That's not what i said.

and besides if a cop tazered a woman who'd just been raped then he or she would not be a cop much longer.


Yes he should still be a cop if that woman is trying to kill people. Normaly they would have shot her...
You guys are crying for an investigation into the circumstances but Jimmy wasn't into that either. If he would have calmed his butt down and let things proceed normally without him wanting to be investigator, cop, judge, jury, executioner then all this talk would have been fine. But Jimmy needed to be taken down and prevented from killing someone who for all the characters on the show know is an innocent.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
That is completely different. Apples and oranges. What Davis said made sense. EVeryone in the hospital was looking for that man. Jimmy was trying to get more morphine out of his drip. Jimmy was screaming at a window. Orderlies has to hold him down. It all added up.

With rape victims, it's not unlikely that they might have been drugged. Police officers are well acquainted with the date rape drug. Also an examination would be given. I understand that you are trying to make a comparison, but these situations are very different.

it's exactly the same thing someone drugged jimmy and took away his choice his free will, that was davis. When he found that body in davis's truck he was fairly luicid. Davis drugged him with the intention of manipulating people into not beliving a word he said, that's not a physical rape but it's a violation of his basic free will.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
I wasn't judging chloe for davis's actions I'm judging her for her own actions.

Did you or did you not just say that Davis is the serial killer?

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:43 PM
If it's red K Clark, she wouldn't believe him either.

cus thats "technically" the only "drug" that can infect so if clark was on red kryponite so according to a mass majority on the thread chloe should automatically believe him? oh yea dont forget is it silver or black that's the one that really makes it psychotic...wow what a double standard....good post dyanara.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:43 PM
it's exactly the same thing someone drugged jimmy and took away his choice his free will, that was davis. When he found that body in davis's truck he was fairly luicid. Davis drugged him with the intention of manipulating people into not beliving a word he said, that's not a physical rape but it's a violation of his basic free will.

Are you not grasping the concept that you have more information that Chloe? Yes you know all the things Davis did, we all know, but Chloe does not. She had the choice to take the word of a sane paremedic or an insane Jimmy who is determined to kill that paramedic.

Lilah
03-19-2009, 08:44 PM
How the heck is Chloe suppose to know that?

I'm sure if she did some investigating she'd figure it out. She's figured out more crazy, unexplained weird things. How about finding out what her husband was injected with... Oh wait that's right, she's not a reporter anymore. She just helps the meteor infected. Which she only did for like one episode.

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:44 PM
so' I am not allowed to say that now? or allowed to believe that Clark that sometimes makes dumb decisions would ahev at leats teke in cosideratin wht Jimmy is saying?

I eman Clark believed Chloe in TOMB and she was almost on the same situation...being set up

he didnt believe at first...he believed her when she begged him to look into the wall then he KNEW she wasnt crazy

SV'S_immortal_hero
03-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Yes he should still be a cop if that woman is trying to kill people. Normaly they would have shot her...
You guys are crying for an investigation into the circumstances but Jimmy wasn't into that either. If he would have calmed his butt down and let things proceed normally without him wanting to be investigator, cop, judge, jury, executioner then all this talk would have been fine. But Jimmy needed to be taken down and prevented from killing someone who for all the characters on the show know is an innocent.

who did jimmy try to kill exactly? he stopped davis attempting to kill, then he was preparing to defend himself from davis who broke out of 1 of his handcuffs

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm sure if she did some investigating she'd figure it out. She's figured out more crazy, unexplained weird things. How about finding out what her husband was injected with... Oh wait that's right, she's not a reporter anymore. She just helps the meteor infected. Which she only did for like one episode.

This just in, the new rule of law is that if there is a psychopath running around trying to kill people, do not try to prevent said psychopath from reaching his goal. Do an investigation first and then decide if said man is in the right for trying to commit murder.

morrigan01
03-19-2009, 08:47 PM
There was no time to pull an investigation out of her butt. Shortly after Davis told her about the morphine, she saw with her own two eyes Jimmy acting nuttier than a squirrel! Tell me what she should have believed then?!

Oh please. Again, if that had been Clark and not Jimmy, acting nutty or no, she STILL would have hightailed it over to Isis and started hacking away, and everyone knows it. And all Clark would have had to do is say "please Chloe, you have to believe me" and she would have AT LEAST given him the benefit of the doubt.

(Honestly, LANA is the one who wouldn't have).

Jimmy didn't even get a benefit of the doubt. He got nothing.

Chloe herself even noted that the pump had been working fine when she left, but all of the sudden, it's now malfunctioning? The first clue to it all was staring her in the face, but she ignored it and took Davis' explanation. The explanation of the guy who her HUSBAND said he saw kill someone.

Dyanara
03-19-2009, 08:48 PM
who did jimmy try to kill exactly? he stopped davis attempting to kill, then he was preparing to defend himself from davis who broke out of 1 of his handcuffs

What is Chloe seeing?!
How hard is it to grasp that what you see is not necessarily what the characters see. She sees....oh Im done trying to explain this

miks
03-19-2009, 08:49 PM
who did jimmy try to kill exactly? he stopped davis attempting to kill, then he was preparing to defend himself from davis who broke out of 1 of his handcuffs

And Jimmy wouldn't have been in that situation if he would have just knocked Davis out and let someone stronger deal with it. But instead he has to cuff him up and do everything himself. And then try to take another swing at him.

pizzahead2490
03-19-2009, 08:49 PM
i agree with jimmy!!! chole is an terrible wife and i am sorta a chole's fan.

thehenry89
03-19-2009, 08:50 PM
Are you not grasping the concept that you have more information that Chloe? Yes you know all the things Davis did, we all know, but Chloe does not. She had the choice to take the word of a sane paremedic or an insane Jimmy who is determined to kill that paramedic.

I understand that completly, and I would appreciate it if you don't condescend to me.

I made a point about chloe not beilving or listening to jimmy at all. She's supposed to be a reporter but she didn't even try to verify anything that jimmy said, she didn't even give him a chance he was just labled as a druggie and from that point on she didn't have time to listen to his inane ramblings. That's how abuse in nursing homes goes unreported, medication makes you all loopy, well yeah it does, but it also makes you prone to victimization. Just because someone is under the influnce doesn't mean they should be ignored or poo poo'ed as a fringe lunatic.

In fact since you brought up jeffery dahmer, the cops would have caught if they'd belived the story of a one of his victims who'd been drugged and was running around the streets naked, they thought he was just a distraught druggie and they even brought him back to dahmer's house where he was waiting with open arms to dismember the guy and dump him in a vat of acid.

Clana4Life
03-19-2009, 08:50 PM
What should Chloe have investigated? Didn't Davis pump him with morphine? So investigating that would have confirmed what Davis said. What else could she investigate? The drunk guy that the police were looking for? Well, he's missing. He ran a light and killed people. This all goes in line with what Davis said. At what point will any of this convince Chloe that Jimmy is telling the truth? If Jimmy had taken a moment to calm down and talk reasonably then maybe he could have told Chloe to check Davis' truck. But Jimmy was too crazy high. He was much more interested in playing Mr. Investigator.

miks
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Oh please. Again, if that had been Clark and not Jimmy, acting nutty or no, she STILL would have hightailed it over to Isis and started hacking away, and everyone knows it. And all Clark would have had to do is say "please Chloe, you have to believe me" and she would have AT LEAST given him the benefit of the doubt.

(Honestly, LANA is the one who wouldn't have).

Jimmy didn't even get a benefit of the doubt. He got nothing.

Chloe herself even noted that the pump had been working fine when she left, but all of the sudden, it's now malfunctioning? The first clue to it all was staring her in the face, but she ignored it and took Davis' explanation. The explanation of the guy who her HUSBAND said he saw kill someone.

It was malfunctioning when Davis said the doctors told him it was. Like I said, if Chloe would have had the time to do an investigation she would have. But clearly she didn't because Jimmy went psycho and tried to hurt Davis.

Kryptochloe
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
You know, you can screw up and make a dumb decision and not be evil. It’s not an all or nothing kind of thing. Admitting Chloe made a dumb choice doesn’t mean that you’re saying she’s the worst villain since Hitler and should roast in Hades. All of the characters on “Smallville” have made dumb decisions from time to time, Chloe’s not above that. She’s human too.


I so agree with you on this... but it seems some people really want death penalty for Chloe.

(only a little disagreement: yes, you can have theme-specific paranoia or delusions...ok, but that's not important for the thread)

SV'S_immortal_hero
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
What is Chloe seeing?!
How hard is it to grasp that what you see is not necessarily what the characters see. She sees....oh Im done trying to explain this

from what i have read your saying jimmy was trying to kill him, so im not talking about what chloe saw but rather your judgement of jimmys actions

kris10
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
so we are all going to assume that when jimmy hooked up davis to the fence he wasnt going to hurt or kill him yea ok

Lilah
03-19-2009, 08:52 PM
This just in, the new rule of law is that if there is a psychopath running around trying to kill people, do not try to prevent said psychopath from reaching his goal. Do an investigation first and then decide if said man is in the right for trying to commit murder.

So Jimmy's a murderer now? Hardly. Davis was tied up. That's it. And I'm recalling an episode in season 5 called "Tomb" were Chloe was delusional and Clark believed her. Yeah, you would think that her being the "crazy one" that time she'd know to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

If clark would have had Chloe's story arc tonight, things would have ended much differently. The only things that seriously pissed me off about tonight was Jimmy quitting the DP and Clark not flying. Jimmy ripping Chloe a new one was a highlight.

dunkman
03-19-2009, 08:52 PM
I'm glad they are done, but Jimmy is an idiot. He's a drug addict and he was going insane, Chloe had every right to take Davis' side.

What are you talking about? Sure, Jimmy's becoming a drug addict (he took 4 morphine pills instead of the maximum of 3), but he really saw Davis kill that guy, & stopped him from killing the other guy! Davis justifies his need to kill by killing bad guys, but killing like that is not okay.

smallvillereporter27
03-19-2009, 08:53 PM
who did jimmy try to kill exactly? he stopped davis attempting to kill, then he was preparing to defend himself from davis who broke out of 1 of his handcuffs

But once again Chloe didn't know this. All she saw was Jimmy about to hit Davis. No, Jimmy was not trying to kill Davis. He was trying to get him to confess. Yes, Chloe should have looked into this a bit further, but I think she was already worried about her husband's sanity BEFORE all of this. Jimmy's been through a lot and she realizes this.

Yes, Jimmy WAS RIGHT and Chloe WAS WRONG, but Chloe had the best intentions and not all of the facts (neither does Jimmy half the time). You guys are bashing a character for a stupid mistake. A mistake, yes, but one that many other characters might have made as well.