Marrying u was the biggest mistake of my life?

[Clana4Life]

Oh please. Again, if that had been Clark and not Jimmy, acting nutty or no, she STILL would have hightailed it over to Isis and started hacking away, and everyone knows it. And all Clark would have had to do is say "please Chloe, you have to believe me" and she would have AT LEAST given him the benefit of the doubt.

(Honestly, LANA is the one who wouldn't have).

Jimmy didn't even get a benefit of the doubt. He got nothing.

Chloe herself even noted that the pump had been working fine when she left, but all of the sudden, it's now malfunctioning? The first clue to it all was staring her in the face, but she ignored it and took Davis' explanation. The explanation of the guy who her HUSBAND said he saw kill someone.


First Chloe, now Lana. What a day. Watch out Lois. :(

[Lilah]

so we are all going to assume that when jimmy hooked up davis to the fence he wasnt going to hurt or kill him yea ok

He wasn't. He wanted him to tell the truth. He just knew what Davis was, so he was prepared to defend himself.

[morrigan01]

If it's red K Clark, she wouldn't believe him either.

Red K Clark just loses his inhibitions, he doesn't start hallucinating. I think that's Silver or Black K that does that.

[Lexsghost]

Their marriage was zzzzzzzzzz

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

And Jimmy wouldn't have been in that situation if he would have just knocked Davis out and let someone stronger deal with it. But instead he has to cuff him up and do everything himself. And then try to take another swing at him.

preparing to defend himself more like as i said jimmy saw davis break out of his handcuffs of course hes going to swing the thing again :rolleyes:

[MetroGirl06]

That was probably the fifth time hes said that he was done with trying to fix the relationship. While I sorta agree with Jimmy, I think he should have seen it coming. So I kinda blame him for all the mistrust and overall crappy state the marriage is in. I thought that when he propsed to Chloe he accepted that she was keeping major secrets from him. Poor Chloe though. She really does love him and she didn't mean for him to be a victim in her life.

[miks]

What are you talking about? Sure, Jimmy's becoming a drug addict (he took 4 morphine pills instead of the maximum of 3), but he really saw Davis kill that guy, & stopped him from killing the other guy! Davis justifies his need to kill by killing bad guys, but killing like that is not okay.

But does Chloe know that?! No. That's why I'm taking Chloe's side. To her Jimmy was being insane and about to bash Davis' head in.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I really felt for Chloe...but I understand where Jimmy is coming from and quite honestly Jimmy's right, but he really was very harsh though.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

But once again Chloe didn't know this. All she saw was Jimmy about to hit Davis. No, Jimmy was not trying to kill Davis. He was trying to get him to confess. Yes, Chloe should have looked into this a bit further, but I think she was already worried about her husband's sanity BEFORE all of this. Jimmy's been through a lot and she realizes this.

Yes, Jimmy WAS RIGHT and Chloe WAS WRONG, but Chloe had the best intentions and not all of the facts (neither does Jimmy half the time). You guys are bashing a character for a stupid mistake. A mistake, yes, but one that many other characters might have made as well.

again im not talking about what chloe saw but rather this arguement that jimmy was in the wrong for his actions in preventing a death happening and preparing himself from another attack since he saw davis break free from a handcuff

so im not bashing chloe when im not even talking about her

[chloesmygirl]

so we are all going to assume that when jimmy hooked up davis to the fence he wasnt going to hurt or kill him yea ok

Did you not hear Jimmy say that Chloe was on her way so he could prove to her he's not lying? Jimmy also only picked up the pipe again when Davis broke the cuff and that was just to defend himself.

[morrigan01]

First Chloe, now Lana. What a day. Watch out Lois. :(

Hey, I'm not bashing Lana, I'm just stating the truth. IMO, Chloe would have believed Clark if he were in Jimmy's position, where as Lana would have been more inclined to think he was hallucinating.

You know, people really have to get over thinking a fault in a character, or a faulty decision a character makes automatically makes them evil or unworthy or something. Chloe screwed up here. Doesn't make her evil, or a bad person though.

[Dyanara]

I understand that completly, and I would appreciate it if you don't condescend to me.

I made a point about chloe not beilving or listening to jimmy at all. She's supposed to be a reporter but she didn't even try to verify anything that jimmy said, she didn't even give him a chance he was just labled as a druggie and from that point on she didn't have time to listen to his inane ramblings. That's how abuse in nursing homes goes unreported, medication makes you all loopy, well yeah it does, but it also makes you prone to victimization. Just because someone is under the influnce doesn't mean they should be ignored or poo poo'ed as a fringe lunatic.

In fact since you brought up jeffery dahmer, the cops would have caught if they'd belived the story of a one of his victims who'd been drugged and was running around the streets naked, they thought he was just a distraught druggie and they even brought him back to dahmer's house where he was waiting with open arms to dismember the guy and dump him in a vat of acid.


And there in lies my point. Hindsight is 20/20. What Chloe did and how she reacted occurs all the time and to many people. We are taught to never believe what the insane or the drug addicted have to say. Chloe believed what she saw and what she was was Jimmy acting like a nut and constantly wanting more drugs. I do not fault her for not being able to see what the viewers can see. I do not fault her for tasering Jimmy, I actually applaud her for that. It was the safest way to take him down without causing too much damage. All she was doing was defusing the situaiton and preventing anybody from getting hurt.

[thehenry89]

So Jimmy's a murderer now? Hardly. Davis was tied up. That's it. And I'm recalling an episode in season 5 called "Tomb" were Chloe was delusional and Clark believed her. Yeah, you would think that her being the "crazy one" that time she'd know to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

.

exactly!

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

But does Chloe know that?! No. That's why I'm taking Chloe's side. To her Jimmy was being insane and about to bash Davis' head in.

what part of breaking out of a handcuff and freaking out jimmy makes jimmy the bad guy here for taking another swing at davis?

[smallvillereporter27]

Ok so, I don't think this is going anywhere...:lol:

It seems that most people have already made their minds up and can't look at the other side for just one second. I'm not a big fan of character bashing and I'm certaintly not a fan of these rivalries that keep developing. Heck, I didn't even bash Lana's character and she's my least favorite! I just wish people could have a more open mind when it comes to these things.

[pizzahead2490]

chole is in the wrong.

[thehenry89]

And there in lies my point. Hindsight is 20/20. What Chloe did and how she reacted occurs all the time and to many people. We are taught to never believe what the insane or the drug addicted have to say. Chloe believed what she saw and what she was was Jimmy acting like a nut and constantly wanting more drugs. I do not fault her for not being able to see what the viewers can see. I do not fault her for tasering Jimmy, I actually applaud her for that. It was the safest way to take him down without causing too much damage. All she was doing was defusing the situaiton and preventing anybody from getting hurt.

And yet Chloe herself has been in that exact same position. She of all people should be sensitive to this situation.

[Dyanara]

And I'm recalling an episode in season 5 called "Tomb" were Chloe was delusional and Clark believed her. Yeah, you would think that her being the "crazy one" that time she'd know to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

If clark would have had Chloe's story arc tonight, things would have ended much differently. The only things that seriously pissed me off about tonight was Jimmy quitting the DP and Clark not flying. Jimmy ripping Chloe a new one was a highlight.

Yeah I remember Clark believed her from the very beginin...oh no wait he didnt. He only believed her when she said look in the wall. Yeah that was definitely on the same level as Chloe having to do an in depth investigation that would have taken days while Davis is still tied to the fence and Jimmy is waiting for her answer.

[ywm]

jimmy kicks (_)_)

[Dyanara]

what part of breaking out of a handcuff and freaking out jimmy makes jimmy the bad guy here for taking another swing at davis?

He is not a bad guy, Im not saying he is a bad guy. But frm Chloe's perspective all she sees is an innocent man hand cuffed to a fence and her husband about to hit him with a pipe

[thehenry89]

Yeah I remember Clark believed her from the very beginin...oh no wait he didnt. He only believed her when she said look in the wall. Yeah that was definitely on the same level as Chloe having to do an in depth investigation that would have taken days while Davis is still tied to the fence and Jimmy is waiting for her answer.

well he came around didn't? chloe didn't even try, she defered to the judgment of a man she's known for 6 months.

[miks]

what part of breaking out of a handcuff and freaking out jimmy makes jimmy the bad guy here for taking another swing at davis?

Jimmy is the bad guy for handcuffing Davis in the first place. Yes WE know what was about to happen but Chloe doesn't. It looks bad on his part in her eyes.

[DigitalKing]

Again, people saying Chloe would have believed Clark, CHLOE DID NOT BELIEVE CLARK IN SPLINTER. She did the kryptonian equivalent of tasing him (kryptonite). Come up with a better argument.

[Dyanara]

And yet Chloe herself has been in that exact same position. She of all people should be sensitive to this situation.

Was Chloe about to potentially cause permanent brain damage or death to another person who was tied up?

[Clana4Life]

Hey, I'm not bashing Lana, I'm just stating the truth. IMO, Chloe would have believed Clark if he were in Jimmy's position, where as Lana would have been more inclined to think he was hallucinating.

You know, people really have to get over thinking a fault in a character, or a faulty decision a character makes automatically makes them evil or unworthy or something. Chloe screwed up here. Doesn't make her evil, or a bad person though.

In this case I guess truth is relative. I remember in SPLINTER, that Lana believed Clark when everyone else thought he was hallucinating.

I don't think CHloe screwed up. I think Jimmy was too hard on her. He's always had issues when it came to her and CLark. He just can't let it go. He sees her hug Davis one time and he's ready to say that now she's siding with Davis just like she did with Clark. Jimmy is just insecure of any other guy in Chloe's life. He's married. You don't just throw in the towel at the first sign of problems.

----- Added 33 Seconds later -----


Again, people saying Chloe would have believed Clark, CHLOE DID NOT BELIEVE CLARK IN SPLINTER. She did the kryptonian equivalent of tasing him (kryptonite). Come up with a better argument.

Thank you. I keep saying this.

[miks]

well he came around didn't? chloe didn't even try, she defered to the judgment of a man she's known for 6 months.

He came around because Chloe MADE him come around. Did Jimmy do that before Davis drugged him? No. Chloe rationally told Clark to look in the wall and that he would believe her then. That's why he believed her. Jimmy handcuffed Davis to a fence and was about to hit him, that's why Chloe didn't believe him. Plain and simple.

[hanemg]

(only a little disagreement: yes, you can have specific topic paranoia or delusions...ok, but that's not important for the thread)

Not if it's drug induced. You would see a degradation in the complete character. Topic specific psychoses are usually associated with certain types of psychiatric disorders such as Delusional Disorder NOS where the delusions are improbable, but not impossible or in certain instances of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. In Jimmy's case had it truly been a drug induced psychosis or even what is sometimes called "ICU psychosis" you would have seen a more generalized psychosis ranging from delusions to hallucinations and often a complete decompensation where the individual is obviously responding to internal stimuli.

Then again, in a real hospital you wouldn't have darkened hallways and absolutely no staff around either. :p

[Lilah]

Yeah I remember Clark believed her from the very beginin...oh no wait he didnt. He only believed her when she said look in the wall. Yeah that was definitely on the same level as Chloe having to do an in depth investigation that would have taken days while Davis is still tied to the fence and Jimmy is waiting for her answer.

No he believed her the moment he broke her out of the hospital, before that happened. When she begged him and told him she wasn't crazy, despite having mental illness in her family and all the DOCTORS not PARAMEDICS telling him she was insane.

Why can't Chloe ever be in the wrong? She screwed up in this episode, hence why she was crying in her apartment alone.

[Dyanara]

well he came around didn't? chloe didn't even try, she defered to the judgment of a man she's known for 6 months.

He had to use his darn x-ray vision to look through a wall. Chloe didnt have time to figure out who was telling the truth. She had to stop Jimmy in the least damaging way she could.

[thehenry89]

Was Chloe about to potentially cause permanent brain damage or death to another person who was tied up?

no but she was crazy and drugged and thus should not be listened to at all :rolleyes:. Besides my point is that chloe the "reporter" the loving "wife" should have at least given him a chance, but she didn't.

[Clana4Life]

well he came around didn't? chloe didn't even try, she defered to the judgment of a man she's known for 6 months.

Is it about time or evidence. Time isn't the key thing - evidence is. The evidence showed that Jimmy was high on morphine. Whereas Davis seemed quite sane.

[chloesmygirl]

I'm one of the biggest Chloe fans there is but Jimmy was right when he told her she believes everybody but him. And somebody correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an episode earlier this season where Clark told Chloe he didn't trust Davis and Chloe pretty much told him he was wrong for not trusting him?

[Dyanara]

Well from what I remember Clark only believed her story when he saw the body in the wall. I havenet seen the episode in forever, but I dont remember him breaking her out to go start an investigation

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

He is not a bad guy, Im not saying he is a bad guy. But frm Chloe's perspective all she sees is an innocent man hand cuffed to a fence and her husband about to hit him with a pipe

then why make out hes trying to kill davis in your previous posts then, contradict yourself much?


Jimmy is the bad guy for handcuffing Davis in the first place. Yes WE know what was about to happen but Chloe doesn't. It looks bad on his part in her eyes.

would you still be saying jimmy is the bad guy if jimmy didnt stop davis from going after his potential victim?

[Dyanara]

no but she was crazy and drugged and thus should not be listened to at all :rolleyes:. Besides my point is that chloe the "reporter" the loving "wife" should have at least given him a chance, but she didn't.

Im not giving my husband the chance when he is about to potentially kill somebody. Im taking him down, sobering him up then we can talk.

[Sports72Xtrm]

The thing with Chloe is she automatically assumed the worse while in most cases if it had been Clark who had handcuffed Davis, she would have had at least had the courtesy to yell "DON'T DO IT" instead of tazing him. She didn't know that Davis was a monster but there were more peaceful solutions, I firmly believe that. It just showed that if everyone thought Jimmy was the crazy monster who killed everyone, Chloe would have been leading the witch hunt to put him down. That makes her the bad wife. She just doesn't love him. Faith and trust are part of a marriage and she didn't pass the test.

[hanemg]

I'm one of the biggest Chloe fans there is but Jimmy was right when he told her she believes everybody but him. And somebody correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an episode earlier this season where Clark told Chloe he didn't trust Davis and Chloe pretty much told him he was wrong for not trusting him?

For that matter, didn't Davis himself tell Chloe that he was afraid he was a murderer?

[Dyanara]

then why make out hes trying to kill davis in your previous posts then, contradict yourself much?

You do realize people die from head wounds right?

[thehenry89]

Im not giving my husband the chance when he is about to potentially kill somebody. Im taking him down, sobering him up then we can talk.

again she didn't try to help him waaaaaaaaaay before he tied davis up.

[miks]

then why make out hes trying to kill davis in your previous posts then, contradict yourself much?



would you still be saying jimmy is the bad guy if jimmy didnt stop davis from going after his potential victim?

I'm confused. Are you asking if I would be saying the same thing if Jimmy hadn't stopped him from killing? Yes. But Jimmy is not a super powered creature, he shouldn't have gone to do that stuff by himself.

[deanropi]

I still don't see what Chloe did wrong. Davis made a fool out of everyone.

[Dyanara]

again she didn't try to help him waaaaaaaaaay before he tied davis up.

Help him what? Get sober? Get better? Try to get Davis convicted of murder?

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

You do realize people die from head wounds right?

was he wounded? you have stated in previous posts jimmy tried to kill davis, if that was so he wouldnt have tried to get chloe to see davis as a killer, so again jimmy prevented a death and prepared to defend himself when davis broke out of a handcuff

[thehenry89]

Is it about time or evidence. Time isn't the key thing - evidence is. The evidence showed that Jimmy was high on morphine. Whereas Davis seemed quite sane.

it's about chloe not listening to the person she supposedly loves, and just taking the word of davis at face value. news flash people lie all the time, chloe used to be a repoter it would have taken her five minutes to get on a computer and check jimmy's story out but she didn't.

[Dyanara]

I still don't see what Chloe did wrong. Davis made a fool out of everyone.

Your right, this shouldn't be a blame Jimmy or Chloe situation. Yes Jimmy was right and Davis is a killer but I can't fault Chloe for stopping Jimmy from hurting a man she does not know is a killer.

[Clana4Life]

I never thought Chloe would have been called "wrong". I guess it doesn't matter that she was set up. I keep trying to defend her, but the opposition is great. Whew. :\ Where's the equivalent of a Chloe-Sweet site when you need one?

[Dyanara]

was he wounded? you have stated in previous posts jimmy tried to kill davis, if that was so he wouldnt have tried to get chloe to see davis as a killer, so again jimmy prevented a death and prepared to defend himself when davis broke out of a handcuff

Did
Chloe
Know
This?????????????????????????????
People put yourself in her shoes, you come around a corner, you see your husband having a man handcuffed to a fence and is about to hit him in the head with a pipe.

[Sports72Xtrm]

For that matter, didn't Davis himself tell Chloe that he was afraid he was a murderer?

Exactly why does Chloe trust this Davis guy.

[thehenry89]

Help him what? Get sober? Get better? Try to get Davis convicted of murder?

all of the above as far as i'm concerned. but she didn't listen to him and so he, in his state of delerium, took matters into his own hands.

[Clana4Life]

it's about chloe not listening to the person she supposedly loves, and just taking the word of davis at face value. news flash people lie all the time, chloe used to be a repoter it would have taken her five minutes to get on a computer and check jimmy's story out but she didn't.

A computer check to check what? The guy did run a red light and weren't the cops actually chasing him? So this would have proven what Davis said.

[Dyanara]

I never thought Chloe would have been called "wrong". I guess it doesn't matter that she was set up. I keep trying to defend her, but the opposition is great. Whew. :\ Where's the equivalent of a Chloe-Sweet site when you need one?

I don't even like Chloe that much.

[dreamsofnever]

That was probably the fifth time hes said that he was done with trying to fix the relationship. While I sorta agree with Jimmy, I think he should have seen it coming. So I kinda blame him for all the mistrust and overall crappy state the marriage is in. I thought that when he propsed to Chloe he accepted that she was keeping major secrets from him. Poor Chloe though. She really does love him and she didn't mean for him to be a victim in her life.

I agree with you that Jimmy should have seen and thought about the dysfunction in the relationship before it got to marriage. This is why most people who do a religious ceremony... the pastor requires them to go through pre-marriage counseling and I think that's something that any about to be married couple should go through.

In my opinion, Jimmy and Chloe had no business getting married. He proposed on a whim after experiencing fear when she almost died. They had issues before that and he should have realized that you either work through issues, or they are only going to get worse after marriage. Getting married isn't a band-aid for your problems. If anything, it brings issues to light and if the relationship doesn't have a solid foundation, most likely the couple isn't going to survive that.


Hey, I'm not bashing Lana, I'm just stating the truth. IMO, Chloe would have believed Clark if he were in Jimmy's position, where as Lana would have been more inclined to think he was hallucinating.

You know, people really have to get over thinking a fault in a character, or a faulty decision a character makes automatically makes them evil or unworthy or something. Chloe screwed up here. Doesn't make her evil, or a bad person though.

I agree. I think this season Chloe has done a lot of things I don't agree about. I don't think she's a bad person. I think she's a victim of bad writing, but I also think she needs to hopefully realize the things she's done wrong and seek redemption.


And there in lies my point. Hindsight is 20/20. What Chloe did and how she reacted occurs all the time and to many people. We are taught to never believe what the insane or the drug addicted have to say. Chloe believed what she saw and what she was was Jimmy acting like a nut and constantly wanting more drugs. I do not fault her for not being able to see what the viewers can see. I do not fault her for tasering Jimmy, I actually applaud her for that. It was the safest way to take him down without causing too much damage. All she was doing was defusing the situaiton and preventing anybody from getting hurt.

While I respect where you're coming from, Dyanara... I think Chloe should have known enough to tell the difference between her husband lucid and her husband on drugs.

I can't imagine not knowing the difference between my husband on drugs and my husband when he's lucid. I get that what Jimmy was saying sounded crazy, but he seemed perfectly lucid. If it was my husband, I would err on his side before I would believe anyone else but him. I would look into the disappearance of the drunk driver before I jumped to conclusions.

The thing is, I know my husband and I would know the difference. And I think that's the problem... Jimmy was perfectly lucid when he saw what Davis did. Yes, Davis drugged him afterward and Jimmy saw some crazy stuff. But Chloe didn't believe him or even take the time to consider believing him before running after Davis in that first scene with the three of them.

Worse, Chloe has been carrying on an emotional affair with Davis. (and arguably, with Clark before that) Jimmy may not be consciously aware of it, but you know when the person you love isn't all in with you. You can tell when they're emotionally distant.

so... I think they're both to blame. Jimmy, for making that commitment and hoping it would somehow cement a relationship that always had issues. And Chloe, for not being true to him on an emotional level, and for not taking the time to get to know the person she agreed to love for better or for worse.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

I'm confused. Are you asking if I would be saying the same thing if Jimmy hadn't stopped him from killing? Yes. But Jimmy is not a super powered creature, he shouldn't have gone to do that stuff by himself.

then jimmy is in a no win situation with you, he saves a potential victim and is called a bad guy for it, and a bad guy for maybe letting a death occur he could have stopped

[doodie8808]

I'm one of the biggest Chloe fans there is but Jimmy was right when he told her she believes everybody but him. And somebody correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there an episode earlier this season where Clark told Chloe he didn't trust Davis and Chloe pretty much told him he was wrong for not trusting him?


THAT IS TRUE HE DID BUT IT IS IRONIC BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN SHE IS GIVING OUT ADVICE SHE SHOULD USE FOR HERSELF! SHE TOLD CLARK HIS ABILITY TO SEE GOOD IN PEOPLE WILL COME BACK TO BITE HIM IN THE ASS BUT IT JUST BITE HER IN HERS!:rotfl:

[thehenry89]

Did
Chloe
Know
This?????????????????????????????
People put yourself in her shoes, you come around a corner, you see your husband having a man handcuffed to a fence and is about to hit him in the head with a pipe.

I would have yelled "what the **** are you doing?" I wouldn't just tazer/or shoot him.

[Night_Hawk90]

Not if it's drug induced. You would see a degradation in the complete character. Topic specific psychoses are usually associated with certain types of psychiatric disorders such as Delusional Disorder NOS where the delusions are improbable, but not impossible or in certain instances of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. In Jimmy's case had it truly been a drug induced psychosis or even what is sometimes called "ICU psychosis" you would have seen a more generalized psychosis ranging from delusions to hallucinations and often a complete decompensation where the individual is obviously responding to internal stimuli.

Then again, in a real hospital you wouldn't have darkened hallways and absolutely no staff around either. :p

yea wats up with that it seems like nobody works in that hospital

[HeartChakraBabe]

IMO, this was all just further proof that Chloe and Jimmy do NOT belong together at all. Neither of them have really stood by each other like a truly happy couple should.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Did
Chloe
Know
This?????????????????????????????
People put yourself in her shoes, you come around a corner, you see your husband having a man handcuffed to a fence and is about to hit him in the head with a pipe.

i have stated a few times my posts dont concern chloe its the actions of jimmy im posting about

so please drop chloes POV as im not talking about what she saw

[smallvillereporter27]

Why can't Chloe ever be in the wrong? She screwed up in this episode, hence why she was crying in her apartment alone.

Oh, she was in the wrong in this episode. Completly. However, IMO she had good intentions...they were just misplaced...

[thehenry89]

I agree with you that Jimmy should have seen and thought about the dysfunction in the relationship before it got to marriage. This is why most people who do a religious ceremony... the pastor requires them to go through pre-marriage counseling and I think that's something that any about to be married couple should go through.

In my opinion, Jimmy and Chloe had no business getting married. He proposed on a whim after experiencing fear when she almost died. They had issues before that and he should have realized that you either work through issues, or they are only going to get worse after marriage. Getting married isn't a band-aid for your problems. If anything, it brings issues to light and if the relationship doesn't have a solid foundation, most likely the couple isn't going to survive that.



I agree. I think this season Chloe has done a lot of things I don't agree about. I don't think she's a bad person. I think she's a victim of bad writing, but I also think she needs to hopefully realize the things she's done wrong and seek redemption.



While I respect where you're coming from, Dyanara... I think Chloe should have known enough to tell the difference between her husband lucid and her husband on drugs.

I can't imagine not knowing the difference between my husband on drugs and my husband when he's lucid. I get that what Jimmy was saying sounded crazy, but he seemed perfectly lucid. If it was my husband, I would err on his side before I would believe anyone else but him. I would look into the disappearance of the drunk driver before I jumped to conclusions.

The thing is, I know my husband and I would know the difference. And I think that's the problem... Jimmy was perfectly lucid when he saw what Davis did. Yes, Davis drugged him afterward and Jimmy saw some crazy stuff. But Chloe didn't believe him or even take the time to consider believing him before running after Davis in that first scene with the three of them.

Worse, Chloe has been carrying on an emotional affair with Davis. (and arguably, with Clark before that) Jimmy may not be consciously aware of it, but you know when the person you love isn't all in with you. You can tell when they're emotionally distant.

so... I think they're both to blame. Jimmy, for making that commitment and hoping it would somehow cement a relationship that always had issues. And Chloe, for not being true to him on an emotional level, and for not taking the time to get to know the person she agreed to love for better or for worse.

ITA great post :)

[Clois4eva89]

i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place with Chimmy. I'm a Chloe fan but Jimmy was right. I just feel bad for Chloe Davis turned Jimmy against her . Just to cover his own tracks on the murders he's committed. Can you really blame Chloe she's stuck between siding with her husband. And siding with her friend and she doesn't have all the facts.

[AndiGirl]

I would have yelled "what the **** are you doing?" I wouldn't just tazer/or shoot him.

Yes....
but how did Jimmy know Chloe was about to show up???

He said "Not until you tell Chloe the truth, she'll be here any moment."
The whole scene just sounds like a case of bad writing to me. If Jimmy knew Chloe was about to show up, my guess is he let her in on his plan. They probably already argued about it, and Jimmy decided to go any way.

Why else would chloe "be coming?" :confused:

[thehenry89]

i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place with Chimmy. I'm a Chloe fan but Jimmy was right. I just feel bad for Chloe Davis turned Jimmy against her . Just to cover his own tracks on the murders he's committed. Can you really blame Chloe she's stuck between siding with her husband. And siding with her friend and she doesn't have all the facts.

"never take sides against the family"

that was true in the godfather and it's true in this situation as well.

[Kryptochloe]

Not if it's drug induced. You would see a degradation in the complete character. Topic specific psychoses are usually associated with certain types of psychiatric disorders such as Delusional Disorder NOS where the delusions are improbable, but not impossible or in certain instances of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. In Jimmy's case had it truly been a drug induced psychosis or even what is sometimes called "ICU psychosis" you would have seen a more generalized psychosis ranging from delusions to hallucinations and often a complete decompensation where the individual is obviously responding to internal stimuli.

Then again, in a real hospital you wouldn't have darkened hallways and absolutely no staff around either. :p

Ok, You really know what are you talking about. Thanks for the explanation.:)

[Lilah]

Yes....
but how did Jimmy know Chloe was about to show up???

He said "Not until you tell Chloe the truth, she'll be here any moment."
The whole scene just sounds like a case of bad writing to me. If Jimmy knew Chloe was about to show up, my guess is he let her in on his plan. They probably already argued about it, and Jimmy decided to go any way.

Why else would chloe "be coming?" :confused:

Jimmy was expecting her. He just wasn't expecting being tazered.

[Level5]

For that matter, didn't Davis himself tell Chloe that he was afraid he was a murderer?

I do remember something like that, but didn't Chloe forget all of that along with all the other stuff she forgot when Clark wiped her memory. Or did she get all of that back?

If she didn't, then I'd blame the writers for forgetting that.

[smallvillereporter27]

Why else would chloe "be coming?" :confused:

She would proably be coming because Jimmy is not supposed to be out of the hospital yet...that's my guess. But who knows....

[Lilah]

I would have yelled "what the **** are you doing?" I wouldn't just tazer/or shoot him.

I would have tried to stop him without tazering him. It works in other situations, why not in hers. The bottom line is she screwed up, and now she's going to pay for it. In the finale.

[Cyclonekat]

*stands up and starts clapping*
You tell her Jimmy!!!!!

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Jimmy said that? OUCH

He's right though, she hasn't been a great wife, Lois took care of him for a month when hew as sick, NOT Chloe.

Chloe's too up in Davis' business to give her HUSBAND a second thought

[Storm45]

QUOTE=~*Lois & Clark Fan*~;4632897]Jimmy said that? OUCH

He's right though, she hasn't been a great wife, Lois took care of him for a month when hew as sick, NOT Chloe.

Chloe's too up in Davis' business to give her HUSBAND a second thought

Then Lois should marry Jimmy then. We know that Jimmy already checked her out while dating Chloe.

[Level5]

Jimmy said that? OUCH

He's right though, she hasn't been a great wife, Lois took care of him for a month when hew as sick, NOT Chloe.

Chloe's too up in Davis' business to give her HUSBAND a second thought

What you mean when she was infected with brainiac? But I'm totally lost to the timeline of all of this.

[dreamsofnever]

IMO, this was all just further proof that Chloe and Jimmy do NOT belong together at all. Neither of them have really stood by each other like a truly happy couple should.

totally agree with you here, Trina! I still don't see the logic in them getting married. Honestly, I think they should have gone through relationship counseling before they made that commitment and since they made the commitment, should STILL be in counseling. Especially given the trauma on their wedding day.

But given that these writers don't seem to understand the workings of a functional relationship, I"m not surprised they went the soap opera route.


Oh, she was in the wrong in this episode. Completly. However, IMO she had good intentions...they were just misplaced...

I think you're right about this too. I don't think Chloe was in the wrong for her specific actions so much as the fact that she had no business marrying a man she couldn't stand by through thick or thin.

And I think unfortunately, she did what she thought was best in this situation and she was dead wrong. Which is sad.


ITA great post :)

Thanks Britt!


Yes....
but how did Jimmy know Chloe was about to show up???

He said "Not until you tell Chloe the truth, she'll be here any moment."
The whole scene just sounds like a case of bad writing to me. If Jimmy knew Chloe was about to show up, my guess is he let her in on his plan. They probably already argued about it, and Jimmy decided to go any way.

Why else would chloe "be coming?" :confused:

That's a good point, Andi. I'm sure Jimmy discussed things with Chloe and she didn't agree. So that does cast her behavior in a different light.

I think all in all, I'm not bashing a character or 'blaming' a character, but I blame the writers for their poor handle on all things relationship-related.

[AndiGirl]

I agree with you that Jimmy should have seen and thought about the dysfunction in the relationship before it got to marriage. This is why most people who do a religious ceremony... the pastor requires them to go through pre-marriage counseling and I think that's something that any about to be married couple should go through.

In my opinion, Jimmy and Chloe had no business getting married. He proposed on a whim after experiencing fear when she almost died. They had issues before that and he should have realized that you either work through issues, or they are only going to get worse after marriage. Getting married isn't a band-aid for your problems. If anything, it brings issues to light and if the relationship doesn't have a solid foundation, most likely the couple isn't going to survive that.



I agree. I think this season Chloe has done a lot of things I don't agree about. I don't think she's a bad person. I think she's a victim of bad writing, but I also think she needs to hopefully realize the things she's done wrong and seek redemption.



While I respect where you're coming from, Dyanara... I think Chloe should have known enough to tell the difference between her husband lucid and her husband on drugs.

I can't imagine not knowing the difference between my husband on drugs and my husband when he's lucid. I get that what Jimmy was saying sounded crazy, but he seemed perfectly lucid. If it was my husband, I would err on his side before I would believe anyone else but him. I would look into the disappearance of the drunk driver before I jumped to conclusions.

The thing is, I know my husband and I would know the difference. And I think that's the problem... Jimmy was perfectly lucid when he saw what Davis did. Yes, Davis drugged him afterward and Jimmy saw some crazy stuff. But Chloe didn't believe him or even take the time to consider believing him before running after Davis in that first scene with the three of them.

Worse, Chloe has been carrying on an emotional affair with Davis. (and arguably, with Clark before that) Jimmy may not be consciously aware of it, but you know when the person you love isn't all in with you. You can tell when they're emotionally distant.

so... I think they're both to blame. Jimmy, for making that commitment and hoping it would somehow cement a relationship that always had issues. And Chloe, for not being true to him on an emotional level, and for not taking the time to get to know the person she agreed to love for better or for worse.

I agree Kelly, Chloe should have known the difference between "flying high jimmy" and "regular jimmy." :lol:

But the problem is...throughout the entire episode, he isn't the "normal jimmy." He is borderline depressed and having some serious issues dealing with what happend. And when he was drugged, he was acting the same way he did at the beginning of the episode....just acting out on top of it.

He is going through a lot, and he needs help...that he refuses to get.
I dont think Chloe was right by ANY means, but how do you save someone who doesnt want your help? Or refuses to admitt they even need help?

ITA about the emotional affair with Davis. Chloe needs to start coming clean. I really hated Davis in this episode...but atleast he is honest about his feelings. He was surprised Chloe never told jimmy about the kiss. (which, again...should have been a red flag to Chloe. Davis assumed Jimmy knew about the kiss. Which would be a good way for him to peg some unresolved anger on Jimmys part. But he didnt know....so wouldnt chloe think "Hmm...Jimmy has no reason to hate Davis, maybe theres something to what hes saying?")

Chloe likes to walk around pretending things arent what they are. IMO, the only difference between Chlavis now and Chlark in the past...is that fact that someone had the guts to speak up. She was always trying to pull the friends card with clark...when it was obvious she didnt just see him as a friend.

Denial seems to be her best friend, and its come back to bite her in the butt.

[smallvillereporter27]

I would have tried to stop him without tazering him. It works in other situations, why not in hers. The bottom line is she screwed up, and now she's going to pay for it. In the finale.

Umm, I agree. The tazering was not smart. But hoping she pays for it in the finale? She's already paying for it...her husband left her.

[Dyanara]

I agree with you that Jimmy should have seen and thought about the dysfunction in the relationship before it got to marriage. This is why most people who do a religious ceremony... the pastor requires them to go through pre-marriage counseling and I think that's something that any about to be married couple should go through.

In my opinion, Jimmy and Chloe had no business getting married. He proposed on a whim after experiencing fear when she almost died. They had issues before that and he should have realized that you either work through issues, or they are only going to get worse after marriage. Getting married isn't a band-aid for your problems. If anything, it brings issues to light and if the relationship doesn't have a solid foundation, most likely the couple isn't going to survive that.



I agree. I think this season Chloe has done a lot of things I don't agree about. I don't think she's a bad person. I think she's a victim of bad writing, but I also think she needs to hopefully realize the things she's done wrong and seek redemption.



While I respect where you're coming from, Dyanara... I think Chloe should have known enough to tell the difference between her husband lucid and her husband on drugs.

I can't imagine not knowing the difference between my husband on drugs and my husband when he's lucid. I get that what Jimmy was saying sounded crazy, but he seemed perfectly lucid. If it was my husband, I would err on his side before I would believe anyone else but him. I would look into the disappearance of the drunk driver before I jumped to conclusions.

The thing is, I know my husband and I would know the difference. And I think that's the problem... Jimmy was perfectly lucid when he saw what Davis did. Yes, Davis drugged him afterward and Jimmy saw some crazy stuff. But Chloe didn't believe him or even take the time to consider believing him before running after Davis in that first scene with the three of them.

Worse, Chloe has been carrying on an emotional affair with Davis. (and arguably, with Clark before that) Jimmy may not be consciously aware of it, but you know when the person you love isn't all in with you. You can tell when they're emotionally distant.

so... I think they're both to blame. Jimmy, for making that commitment and hoping it would somehow cement a relationship that always had issues. And Chloe, for not being true to him on an emotional level, and for not taking the time to get to know the person she agreed to love for better or for worse.

Now I do understand that. ANd I shouldnt have compared Jimmy to a psychopathic serial killer. But he was going crazy and he was trying to hurt Davis.
I agree Jimmy and Chloe should never have gotten married, I absolutely hated when Jimmy figured out Clark was RBB and Chloe continued to lie to him about it and try to deceive him. It screamed to me that they should not be together. I do not read comic books but I believe Clark didnt marry Lois until she knew his big dark secret.
The only problem I have is the Chloe bashing when I don't think she did anything bad. She was wrong but she doesn't know that yet.

[Lilah]

True. But I meant with her life. She's going down a road with Doomsday she's not destined to survive.

[AndiGirl]

Jimmy was expecting her. He just wasn't expecting being tazered.

Yes...but WHY.
If he told her what he was going to do....and she tried to talk him out of it, but he refused. What did he expect her to do???

"Watch chloe...I'm going to beat Davis with this pipe until he confesses." :\

[Kryptochloe]

Umm, I agree. The tazering was not smart. But hoping she pays for it in the finale? She's already paying for it...her husband left her.

Exactly... ruin your marriage means you deserve death???? Wow...

[Night_Hawk90]

"never take sides against the family"

that was true in the godfather and it's true in this situation as well.

great quote from a great movie:)

[Dyanara]

great quote from a great movie:)


That has got to be the ....ok Im going to count to 10. I dont care if your blood is in my viens if you do something wrong Im likely going to turn you into the police.

[Lilah]

Whether Chloe deserves her death or not, it doesn't matter, from the look of things its what she's getting. And we don't know what their conversation could have been liked. For all we know he could have said "meet me at (insert street alley here) at (insert time)..."

[smallvillereporter27]

True. But I meant with her life. She's going down a road with Doomsday she's not destined to survive.

Yes...this is true. I guess I'm still hoping she's still got a shot at some redmetion. Smallville writers tend to give great characters horrible sendoffs...:\

[Lilah]

That has got to be the ....ok Im going to count to 10. I dont care if your blood is in my viens if you do something wrong Im likely going to turn you into the police.

And apparently when they do nothing wrong too... Jimmy did nothing in this episode but try to expose Davis.

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Yes...this is true. I guess I'm still hoping she's still got a shot at some redmetion. Smallville writers tend to give great characters horrible sendoffs...:\

Chloe was a great character. This season not so much. I almost wish she would have ended up in prison and then getting out later this season.

[Tebow15]

Chloe is gonna die. Goodbye Chloe.

[Dyanara]

Im not talking about Jimmy, Im talking about this stupid mentality that no matter what you always choose the side of family. And that is a big fat no in my book. I remember somone from The View using that logic in the Natalie Holloway case.

[Clana4Life]

Wow, the overwhelming majority think Chloe is in the wrong. :confused: Must be a sign of the times. Well, I've argued your case as best as I could Chloe and I'm not even the biggest Chloe fan out there. I'm about to throw up the white flag. I better turn off this Dido song now that's playing in the background. If it were Lana or Clana, I would stay on the ship - defending her to the end. But oh, well, it's not. I have to jump off now because the bombs keep coming and flaming arrows have been shot onto the boat. Dyanara and AndiGirl there's still some room left in this last lifeboat. :(

[I_am_LEX]

Jimmy would feel like a real jack*ss if he knew about Clark. If it bothered him so much, he should have ended the relationship before they got married, and before he asked her to marry him. Getting married to someone he didn't trust was the mistake, so it's his fault. For him to tell Chloe "marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" made me want to punch him in the face (even if he is fictional). Chloe was by his side while he was in the hospital, put up with the "jealous guy" & "poor me" routine. I'm a guy & his jealously was annoying. If he's that jealous, it's his fault, not Chloe's. Oh no, my wife didn't agree with me, pretty sure that's what happens in all relationships. Chloe just went by what she saw with her own eyes, you can't blame her. Jimmy went too far that comment. I lost a lot of respect for that character.

I also agree that "you never side against family" is too vague. If my dad would beat my mom, pretty sure I'm gonna side against my dad which would be siding against family! So that line is just dumb & like i said before, too vague.

[thehenry89]

That has got to be the ....ok Im going to count to 10. I dont care if your blood is in my viens if you do something wrong Im likely going to turn you into the police.

but if your family member trys to tell you something and they're on pain meds you won't belive them? Why should i, or anyone else for that matter, hold chloe to a higher standard than the rest of the world.

[AndiGirl]

totally agree with you here, Trina! I still don't see the logic in them getting married. Honestly, I think they should have gone through relationship counseling before they made that commitment and since they made the commitment, should STILL be in counseling. Especially given the trauma on their wedding day.

But given that these writers don't seem to understand the workings of a functional relationship, I"m not surprised they went the soap opera route.



I think you're right about this too. I don't think Chloe was in the wrong for her specific actions so much as the fact that she had no business marrying a man she couldn't stand by through thick or thin.

And I think unfortunately, she did what she thought was best in this situation and she was dead wrong. Which is sad.



Thanks Britt!



That's a good point, Andi. I'm sure Jimmy discussed things with Chloe and she didn't agree. So that does cast her behavior in a different light.

I think all in all, I'm not bashing a character or 'blaming' a character, but I blame the writers for their poor handle on all things relationship-related.

I agree, I just think the writers forgot to connect the dots a bit in this episode...:lol:.

[thehenry89]

I agree, I just think the writers forgot to connect the dots a bit in this episode...:lol:.

yeah they got kinda lazy at the end there :lol:

[xrayvision]

Damn, this thread grew quickly.

[Dyanara]

but if your family member trys to tell you something and they're on pain meds you won't belive them? Why should i, or anyone else for that matter, hold chloe to a higher standard than the rest of the world.

We are obviously talking about 2 different situaitons here. If I was Chloe I do not know if I could or would trust what my family member is saying. I would really have to think about it. But I am not the type of person to jump to any conclusion I need facts. So I would have had to take time. Jimmy doesn't seem to want to wait and that would have been a problem. The scene in the alley I do not see what Chloe did as being wrong. I also do not necessarily believe she took Davis' side over Jimmy's. Jimmy had the right idea about Davis but he went about it the wrong way. Chloe is wrong about Davis but I see what she did as just trying to difuse the situation. Neither of them was wrong in my book.

[unex||den||adel]

Exactly... ruin your marriage means you deserve death???? Wow...
im TOTALLY WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you in this. it was called MISTAKES. HUman being do mistakes.

[Lilah]

Damn, this thread grew quickly.

I think this is going to get crazier than Infamous boards last week.

[Clana4Life]

Jimmy would feel like a real jack*ss if he knew about Clark. If it bothered him so much, he should have ended the relationship before they got married, and before he asked her to marry him. Getting married to someone he didn't trust was the mistake, so it's his fault. For him to tell Chloe "marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" made me want to punch him in the face (even if he is fictional). Chloe was by his side while he was in the hospital, put up with the "jealous guy" & "poor me" routine. I'm a guy & his jealously was annoying. If he's that jealous, it's his fault, not Chloe's. Oh no, my wife didn't agree with me, pretty sure that's what happens in all relationships. Chloe just went by what she saw with her own eyes, you can't blame her. Jimmy went too far that comment. I lost a lot of respect for that character.

I also agree that "you never side against family" is too vague. If my dad would beat my mom, pretty sure I'm gonna side against my dad which would be siding against family! So that line is just dumb & like i said before, too vague.

Your perspective is very much needed in this thread. FYI, we are in the great minority. Jimmy didn't have too much respect for his wife to talk to her like he did at the end.

[unex||den||adel]

I think this is going to get crazier than Infamous boards last week.
thats what happen if you mess with chloe character.:mad:

[thehenry89]

We are obviously talking about 2 different situaitons here. If I was Chloe I do not know if I could or would trust what my family member is saying. I would really have to think about it. But I am not the type of person to jump to any conclusion I need facts. So I would have had to take time. Jimmy doesn't seem to want to wait and that would have been a problem. The scene in the alley I do not see what Chloe did as being wrong. I also do not necessarily believe she took Davis' side over Jimmy's. Jimmy had the right idea about Davis but he went about it the wrong way. Chloe is wrong about Davis but I see what she did as just trying to difuse the situation. Neither of them was wrong in my book.

but chloe did jump straight to the conclusion that jimmy was a drug addict and couldn't be trusted.

And i don't belive that these situations are mutually exclusive, they're both extremes 1) never beliveing the words of anyone under the influence of anything and 2) always beliveing the best of your family no matter what.

[Lilah]

thats what happen if you mess with chloe character.:mad:

No, that's what happens when you pin fans against each other. That's exactly what PS3 have done with this episode, unfortunately.

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but chloe did jump straight to the conclusion that jimmy was a drug addict and couldn't be trusted.

And i don't belive that these situations are mutually exclusive, they're both extremes 1) never beliveing the words of anyone under the influence of anything and 2) always beliveing the best of your family no matter what.

Or in this case, believing Chloe Sullivan can do no wrong.

[dreamsofnever]

I agree Kelly, Chloe should have known the difference between "flying high jimmy" and "regular jimmy." :lol:

But the problem is...throughout the entire episode, he isn't the "normal jimmy." He is borderline depressed and having some serious issues dealing with what happend. And when he was drugged, he was acting the same way he did at the beginning of the episode....just acting out on top of it.

He is going through a lot, and he needs help...that he refuses to get.
I dont think Chloe was right by ANY means, but how do you save someone who doesnt want your help? Or refuses to admitt they even need help?

ITA about the emotional affair with Davis. Chloe needs to start coming clean. I really hated Davis in this episode...but atleast he is honest about his feelings. He was surprised Chloe never told jimmy about the kiss. (which, again...should have been a red flag to Chloe. Davis assumed Jimmy knew about the kiss. Which would be a good way for him to peg some unresolved anger on Jimmys part. But he didnt know....so wouldnt chloe think "Hmm...Jimmy has no reason to hate Davis, maybe theres something to what hes saying?")

Chloe likes to walk around pretending things arent what they are. IMO, the only difference between Chlavis now and Chlark in the past...is that fact that someone had the guts to speak up. She was always trying to pull the friends card with clark...when it was obvious she didnt just see him as a friend.

Denial seems to be her best friend, and its come back to bite her in the butt.

Thanks Andi! And you're very right about Chloe's denial. We saw that for years as she tried to pretend to be 'just' a friend to Clark.

Now, I'm not a Chlarker, but I think with Chloe, Clark has always come first. And unfortunately, this has severely weakened her relationship with Jimmy to the point that I don't understand why he continued to pursue her or why he proposed to her. Even now, as her marriage was on thin ice and Jimmy was in the hospital, she was at Clark's house, pretending everything was all right and giving Clark advice on HIS life. At that point, I was like "Chloe, get your OWN life in check and let Clark worry about himself."

And I may be looking at this differently BECAUSE I'm happily married, but if a guy had tried to kiss me while we were engaged or married or even seriously dating, that guy would be out of my life. I would try to stay friends. I certainly wouldn't take the word of anything he said over my husband's because in my mind, a guy who kissed a woman in a serious relationship, knowing she is in a serious relationship is a dirtbag. And I'd be pissed off on my husband's behalf that he tried that nonsense. (for the record, not blaming Davis entirely for the kiss, because I think Chloe-or Chloeiac, whatever, sent out signals that she was open to it, and that's the problem too)

I also would never keep something like that from my husband. I think that keeping secrets thing alone shows that these two are not compatible. I'm still at a loss as to why they got married. (except that the writers wanted the 'drama' of a wedding and wanted to get everyone in formal wear so Doomsday could attack)


Now I do understand that. ANd I shouldnt have compared Jimmy to a psychopathic serial killer. But he was going crazy and he was trying to hurt Davis.
I agree Jimmy and Chloe should never have gotten married, I absolutely hated when Jimmy figured out Clark was RBB and Chloe continued to lie to him about it and try to deceive him. It screamed to me that they should not be together. I do not read comic books but I believe Clark didnt marry Lois until she knew his big dark secret.
The only problem I have is the Chloe bashing when I don't think she did anything bad. She was wrong but she doesn't know that yet.

I understand where you're coming from too. For all I've said, if my husband was trying to actively hurt someone, I would stop him and I know he would thank me for it later. I don't know if I would have the heart to tazer him though. But who knows.

I too felt really sad when Jimmy figured out Clark's secret and Chloe sided with Clark to deceive him. That showed me that she's not serious about trusting him.

Just to compare another show, on Kyle XY, his foster sister has a boyfriend and she suggested they tell the boyfriend Kyle's secret because she trusted him and it's her secret to carry as well. And this is a BOYFRIEND, not even a fiance. (or worse, a husband)

The whole situation makes me sad for both characters and frustrated with the writers for refusing to show an actual functional marriage besides the Kents. (which they messed up with the whole Martha/Lionel thing, imho)

[AndiGirl]

Damn, this thread grew quickly.

Yea...I think that because there's a few of us who cant seem to let it go! :lol:
I dont know why I feel the need to keep coming back in here and re-stating my argument over and over. :\

Oh well, I'm done. I'll just agree to disagree and call it a night. ;)

[dreamsofnever]

I agree, I just think the writers forgot to connect the dots a bit in this episode...:lol:.

Yes they did! But what else is new here.

Honestly, I am an aspiring professional novelist. I am currently busting my butt to connect the dots and write characters that are consistent. If I wrote stuff like this, I would never ever get published. I would get LAUGHED at by anyone I tried to sell my story too.

But such is TV writing. I think sometimes too many cooks for the pot is a bad idea, because so much TV script writing is done by panel.

[Clana4Life]

Yea...I think that because there's a few of us who cant seem to let it go! :lol:
I dont know why I feel the need to keep coming back in here and re-stating my argument over and over. :\

Oh well, I'm done. I'll just agree to disagree and call it a night. ;)


I pretty much feel the same way. Here, I'll scoot over and make some room for you in the life boat. :)

[AndiGirl]

Thanks Andi! And you're very right about Chloe's denial. We saw that for years as she tried to pretend to be 'just' a friend to Clark.

Now, I'm not a Chlarker, but I think with Chloe, Clark has always come first. And unfortunately, this has severely weakened her relationship with Jimmy to the point that I don't understand why he continued to pursue her or why he proposed to her. Even now, as her marriage was on thin ice and Jimmy was in the hospital, she was at Clark's house, pretending everything was all right and giving Clark advice on HIS life. At that point, I was like "Chloe, get your OWN life in check and let Clark worry about himself."

And I may be looking at this differently BECAUSE I'm happily married, but if a guy had tried to kiss me while we were engaged or married or even seriously dating, that guy would be out of my life. I would try to stay friends. I certainly wouldn't take the word of anything he said over my husband's because in my mind, a guy who kissed a woman in a serious relationship, knowing she is in a serious relationship is a dirtbag. And I'd be pissed off on my husband's behalf that he tried that nonsense. (for the record, not blaming Davis entirely for the kiss, because I think Chloe-or Chloeiac, whatever, sent out signals that she was open to it, and that's the problem too)

I also would never keep something like that from my husband. I think that keeping secrets thing alone shows that these two are not compatible. I'm still at a loss as to why they got married. (except that the writers wanted the 'drama' of a wedding and wanted to get everyone in formal wear so Doomsday could attack)

ITA again! :lol:

The fact that she didnt bother to tell Jimmy about the kiss is bad enough....
but then the line "no space is necessary." Come one Chloe!!!!! :eek:

Either she A) Really has no idea she's playing with fire. Atleast Davis was smart enough to remind her how "dangerous" friendships like theirs were. or B) she just honestly doesnt care....and wants what she wants when she wants it. UGH, neither are all that great! :lol:

I dont know if I blame Davis for the kiss though, because she reciprocated...and I guess he wanted her to know she had options. I'm more upset with her for acting like its not a big deal.

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I pretty much feel the same way. Here, I'll scoot over and make some room for you in the life boat. :)

I kind of told a fib! Kelly had an awesome post I had to comment on.
But now....I'm done.

Unless Kelly responds. But its a nice discussion....not a "You're wrong"..."no you're wrong!" Kind of thing! :lol:

*Takes a seat on the life boat* :)

[chloesmygirl]

Honestly when you get right down to it they both thought they were doing the right thing so it's hard to fault either one.

[Dannyblue1]

I think it's pretty scary that so many people would apparently let a family member cause someone physical harm just because they are family.

So I see my cousin about to beat someone in the head, and trying to stop them would, what, be disloyal?

I think Chloe behaved toward Jimmy in this episode exactly the way she behaved towards Clark in "Splinter." The only difference is that, in Jimmy's case, there was something else causing his wacky behavior, something Chloe had no possible way of knowing.

[thehenry89]

I think it's pretty scary that so many people would apparently let a family member cause someone physical harm just because they are family.

So I see my cousin about to beat someone in the head, and trying to stop them would, what, be disloyal?

I think Chloe behaved toward Jimmy in this episode exactly the way she behaved towards Clark in "Splinter." The only difference is that, in Jimmy's case, there was something else causing his wacky behavior, something Chloe had no possible way of knowing.

I wouldn't let them cause someone bodily harm, but i wouldn't just tazer them like they were a mad dog or something. Like I said even the police have to annonce their presence and identify themselves before they shoot somone.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I think it's pretty scary that so many people would apparently let a family member cause someone physical harm just because they are family.

So I see my cousin about to beat someone in the head, and trying to stop them would, what, be disloyal?

I think Chloe behaved toward Jimmy in this episode exactly the way she behaved towards Clark in "Splinter." The only difference is that, in Jimmy's case, there was something else causing his wacky behavior, something Chloe had no possible way of knowing.

If you can get close enough to taze someone you can get close enough to talk him down or get in his way before he does something he regrets. And even just giving him the benefit of the doubt and hearing him out goes a long way. But no she just tazes him like some rabid animal.

[dreamsofnever]

ITA again! :lol:

The fact that she didnt bother to tell Jimmy about the kiss is bad enough....
but then the line "no space is necessary." Come one Chloe!!!!! :eek:

Either she A) Really has no idea she's playing with fire. Atleast Davis was smart enough to remind her how "dangerous" friendships like theirs were. or B) she just honestly doesnt care....and wants what she wants when she wants it. UGH, neither are all that great! :lol:

I dont know if I blame Davis for the kiss though, because she reciprocated...and I guess he wanted her to know she had options. I'm more upset with her for acting like its not a big deal.

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I kind of told a fib! Kelly had an awesome post I had to comment on.
But now....I'm done.

Unless Kelly responds. But its a nice discussion....not a "You're wrong"..."no you're wrong!" Kind of thing! :lol:

*Takes a seat on the life boat* :)

Awww, Andi, you are too sweet! :)

I love debates, but sometimes it's hard to see the other side or get the other side to see your side and then it's more beating your head against a brick wall.

I do see both sides. I see how each character is wrong and I see how each character thought they were right. (so, kudos to the writers/actors for representing that, even if I don't like the storyline. lol)

Like I said, I don't blame Davis for the kiss. I think I failed in what I was trying to say. Because, if a guy kissed me when I was dating, engaged, or married to my husband, he would be in the wrong cuz there's no way in heck I'd be interested or sending out signals that I was interested. So I'd be pissed off at the jerk for pushing the envelope where I was concerned and for disrespecting my husband because I would have made it clear I was committed to my hubby. (and if anyone tried to kiss me, he would get smacked. lol) In Chloe's case, I don't think she made it entirely clear. I think she was playing with fire. I don't think she purposely said "hey, I'm going to emotionally cheat on my husband!" or anything like that. I think she was not invested in the relationship enough to begin with. And because of that, she was subconsciously seeking a way out.

That doesn't make it okay, but it explains her behavior.

I think Davis at least has tried to do the right thing, but she's sending him these mixed signals and I understand his being confused. I still think, if I were in *his* shoes, I would have steered clear, but again that's me.

So, in conclusion, everyone's a little in the wrong here.


Honestly when you get right down to it they both thought they were doing the right thing so it's hard to fault either one.

Very good point! That's what makes the situation so sad.


I still maintain that Jimmy shouldn't have walked away so soon either. I think he either should have realized Chloe wasn't quite right given their spotty history BEFORE he said the vows or, since he did take those vows and should have taken them with all intentions that he would follow through, he should have made more of an attempt to work through it.

I think tonight they dragged everyone involved in the Jimmy/Chloe/Davis triangle through the mud and I didn't appreciate it one bit.

[Dannyblue1]

I wouldn't let them cause someone bodily harm, but i wouldn't just tazer them like they were a mad dog or something. Like I said even the police have to annonce their presence and identify themselves before they shoot somone.

One, tazering isn't lethal. In fact, the reason the police started using tazers was because it was considered a relatively harmless way to stop a dangerous person from causing harm to others (or themselves) without causing them lasting damage.

Two, I can see myself doing something similar. I come upon a loved one about to hurt someone pretty seriously. (Getting hit in the head with a metal pipe is pretty hard core.) Thanks to the events that have led up to this moment, I have pretty good cause to believe said relative isn't in their right mind and won't listen to reason. I have, at my disposal, a way to put an end to this situation fast, in a way that won't cause anyone lasting damage. And I'm thinking that, when this relative wakes up, they'll have come to their senses.

Doesn't seem like such a bad solution to me. Or maybe I'm just too pragmatic for my own good.

[doomvskal86]

It's funny I said that line before he said it on the show. Perfect scene

[Tebow15]

what is ITA?

[thehenry89]

One, tazering isn't lethal. In fact, the reason the police started using tazers was because it was considered a relatively harmless way to stop a dangerous person from causing harm to others (or themselves) without causing them lasting damage.

Two, I can see myself doing something similar. I come upon a loved one about to hurt someone pretty seriously. (Getting hit in the head with a metal pipe is pretty hard core.) Thanks to the events that have led up to this moment, I have pretty good cause to believe said relative isn't in their right mind and won't listen to reason. I have, at my disposal, a way to put an end to this situation fast, in a way that won't cause anyone lasting damage. And I'm thinking that, when this relative wakes up, they'll have come to their senses.

Doesn't seem like such a bad solution to me. Or maybe I'm just too pragmatic for my own good.

well tazering is actually lethal in people prone to hypertension ie someone under the influence of alchohol, barbituates, and /or narcotics but that's not the point of my argument.

I would like to just step away from the whole davis tied up chloe tazering jimmy thing for a moment and discuss all the actions that led up to the event. Jimmy told chloe in a lucid state of mind that he saw davis kill a man, now chloe had two options she could have picked up the phone made like two calls and either confirmed or denyed the drunk driver being brought in by davis and dissapearing, or she could have done what she did and dismissed jimmy as being delusional. That for me is worse than tazering him.

[Amelie]

Both Jimmy and Chloe are good on my list, but what I don't like about Chloe this season is that she keeps on TRUSTING Davis even when others tells him not to. Yet, she does not trust her own husband, the man she has been in a relationship with for many years now. How does that make sense?

The truth of the matter is that Jimmy was NOT the first person to come to Chloe with doubts about Davis. Clark had doubts and even Davis himself had doubts. But Chloe keeps on not wanting to believe, she keeps on turning a blind eye, and in this episode that denial or blindness was just taken to it's extreme when Chloe did not trust Jimmy at the very beginning of the episode.

Chloe made a mistake. She was in the wrong. And comparing Chloe tasering Jimmy to her putting Clark down with kryptonite in the past is apples and oranges.

The point is that she trusted Davis's word over Jimmy's even though she knows that Jimmy is a good guy and that Davis is highly suspect (by many people: Jimmy, Clark, Davis Himself, ect).

Just as a reporter following your gut instinct, shouldn't Chloe have had AT LEAST some questions? Such as, "Why would Jimmy think this? In fact, why would Clark? And why would Davis himself?"

Basically everything is pointing towards Davis, including his own finger, and yet Chloe doesn't want to see it. And that's why people are so against her actions in this episode.

I see some people wanting to crucify Chloe immediately and those people are balanced out by those who want to crucify Jimmy (heck someone even said Jimmy should have been murdered by Davis--if that is not biased and extreme, I don't know what is). But the average viewer seems to be concerned for Chloe because she is making the stupidest choices this season.

Chloe is literally in the hands of the enemy and she is blind to it. I'm scared for Chloe. I really am. Because I fear that she will not doubt Davis until it's too late. And frankly, it didn't have to get to that point...

[clois-destiny-forever]

I'm totally feeling for Jimmy right now. Glad he grew a pair and called Chloe on her crazy antics.

[thehenry89]

Both Jimmy and Chloe are good on my list, but what I don't like about Chloe this season is that she keeps on TRUSTING Davis even when others tells him not to. Yet, she does not trust her own husband, the man she has been in a relationship with for many years now. How does that make sense?

The truth of the matter is that Jimmy was NOT the first person to come to Chloe with doubts about Davis. Clark had doubts and even Davis himself had doubts. But Chloe keeps on not wanting to believe, she keeps on turning a blind eye, and in this episode that denial or blindness was just taken to it's extreme when Chloe did not trust Jimmy at the very beginning of the episode.

Chloe made a mistake. She was in the wrong. And comparing Chloe tasering Jimmy to her putting Clark down with kryptonite in the past is apples and oranges.

The point is that she trusted Davis's word over Jimmy's even though she knows that Jimmy is a good guy and that Davis is highly suspect (by many people: Jimmy, Clark, Davis Himself, ect).

Just as a reporter following your gut instinct, shouldn't Chloe have had AT LEAST some questions? Such as, "Why would Jimmy think this? In fact, why would Clark? And why would Davis himself?"

Basically everything is pointing towards Davis, including his own finger, and yet Chloe doesn't want to see it. And that's why people are so against her actions in this episode.

I see some people wanting to crucify Chloe immediately and those people are balanced out by those who want to crucify Jimmy (heck someone even said Jimmy should have been murdered by Davis--if that is not biased and extreme, I don't know what is). But the average viewer seems to be concerned for Chloe because she is making the stupidest choices this season.

Chloe is literally in the hands of the enemy and she is blind to it. I'm scared for Chloe. I really am. Because I fear that she will not doubt Davis until it's too late. And frankly, it didn't have to get to that point...


great post :) ITA

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what is ITA?

I totally Agree.

[Sludge]

That was pretty much the BEST episode of smallville Ive seen. I registered and signed up tonite just to see the comments and couldnt be happier. Its been a buncha weak OC-style drama with the characters up to this point in season nine and the writers hedging their bets with Clark/Superman and Davis/Doomsday. Just when you think Clark is gonna put his identity out there... NOPE, ring goes back in time and erases everything. But, when Jimmy came out and just bodyslammed his soon-to-be-ex-wife Chloe "I'm a tramp bimbo playing with fire" Sullivan, that was GREATNESS. Cahones!! Balls of Steel!! (I hear the opening notes of John Williams' Superman soundtrack in the background)....

Clark, line up and take a lesson. All those scenes where you look like you have no idea how to act, when you need to be decisive... Just super speed over and watch Jimmy lay the truth down like the Hammer of Thor and learn how to be a man.

Pretty sad when a young human has the most guts on a show thats supposed to be about Superman. And to think, I used to like Chloe and think she was the hidden gem of this series cause of her character. HA! Was I wrong on that one. Now I hope that bimbo goes with Davis. Heck, maybe he wont kill her and she will just be his wife, covering up all his killing and lying to everyone out there??!! The only bad part is that I really like Davis, especially the humanity that Sam Witwer brings in how he is realizing he doesnt want to be Doomsday. I think that Doomsday will eventually win out, but its great to see the conflict within Davis, though. And I think thats part of how he will be beaten, since that was his achilles heel in the comics.

Laterz,
Sludge

[dreamsofnever]

well tazering is actually lethal in people prone to hypertension ie someone under the influence of alchohol, barbituates, and /or narcotics but that's not the point of my argument.

I would like to just step away from the whole davis tied up chloe tazering jimmy thing for a moment and discuss all the actions that led up to the event. Jimmy told chloe in a lucid state of mind that he saw davis kill a man, now chloe had two options she could have picked up the phone made like two calls and either confirmed or denyed the drunk driver being brought in by davis and dissapearing, or she could have done what she did and dismissed jimmy as being delusional. That for me is worse than tazering him.

Totally agree, Britt. The problem isn't specifically with Chloe tazering Jimmy. It's the events leading up to that scene. I think Jimmy most likely would not have gone rogue if Chloe had shown that she was on his side and willing to look into things.

Even if she had her doubts, she could have still given him the benefit of the doubt. She could have said "Jimmy, let's work through this TOGETHER." Instead, in that first scene where Jimmy freaked out with Davis coming in the room, she immediately ran out after Davis and let Davis hold her. She didn't stay with Jimmy, didn't try to talk him down. Didn't TRY anything but try to make Davis feel better.

IMHO, you commit to someone, you stay by their side. That doesn't mean you let them hurt someone else. But there was a lot Chloe could have done to prevent Jimmy from getting to that point and we didn't see it.


Both Jimmy and Chloe are good on my list, but what I don't like about Chloe this season is that she keeps on TRUSTING Davis even when others tells him not to. Yet, she does not trust her own husband, the man she has been in a relationship with for many years now. How does that make sense?

The truth of the matter is that Jimmy was NOT the first person to come to Chloe with doubts about Davis. Clark had doubts and even Davis himself had doubts. But Chloe keeps on not wanting to believe, she keeps on turning a blind eye, and in this episode that denial or blindness was just taken to it's extreme when Chloe did not trust Jimmy at the very beginning of the episode.

Chloe made a mistake. She was in the wrong. And comparing Chloe tasering Jimmy to her putting Clark down with kryptonite in the past is apples and oranges.

The point is that she trusted Davis's word over Jimmy's even though she knows that Jimmy is a good guy and that Davis is highly suspect (by many people: Jimmy, Clark, Davis Himself, ect).

Just as a reporter following your gut instinct, shouldn't Chloe have had AT LEAST some questions? Such as, "Why would Jimmy think this? In fact, why would Clark? And why would Davis himself?"

Basically everything is pointing towards Davis, including his own finger, and yet Chloe doesn't want to see it. And that's why people are so against her actions in this episode.

I see some people wanting to crucify Chloe immediately and those people are balanced out by those who want to crucify Jimmy (heck someone even said Jimmy should have been murdered by Davis--if that is not biased and extreme, I don't know what is). But the average viewer seems to be concerned for Chloe because she is making the stupidest choices this season.

Chloe is literally in the hands of the enemy and she is blind to it. I'm scared for Chloe. I really am. Because I fear that she will not doubt Davis until it's too late. And frankly, it didn't have to get to that point...

Perfectly said, Amelie!

[Bre723]

OMG, that was horrible.
It stung me, knowing this is only a show and not even real.
It's just so hard to hear.
Poor Chloe, and we all know that is just going to push her closer to Davis.

[Dannyblue1]

I would like to just step away from the whole davis tied up chloe tazering jimmy thing for a moment and discuss all the actions that led up to the event. Jimmy told chloe in a lucid state of mind that he saw davis kill a man,

Doubts were quickly cast on how lucid Jimmy was. According to the facts as they were presented to her, Jimmy was wandering around the hospital late at night. There were powerful drugs in his system at the time. According to Davis, the machine broke and was giving Jimmy double-doses of said drug. (Something I have no doubt hospital personnel would confirm because Davis more than likely did something to the machine. Something Chloe could not have known.) Anyone, medical professional or laymen, would have doubts about anything a patient claimed to have seen at under the circumstances.


now chloe had two options she could have picked up the phone made like two calls and either confirmed or denyed the drunk driver being brought in by davis and dissapearing,

Which would've been confirmed. It seems like there was a drunk driver brought in. (He was at the hospital after all. Jimmy saw him there during his late night wanderings.) Said drunk driver, having killed two people, realized how much trouble he was in, freaked and ran. There were people throughout the hospital searching for him. Of course, Davis found him and killed him. Which, again, Chloe could not have known. As far as she would know, Jimmy saw Davis chasing this drunk driver, and the drugs filled in the blanks.


or she could have done what she did and dismissed jimmy as being delusional.

But she didn't dismiss him as being delusional. She questioned the whole "broken machine/double-dose" story. Then she sees Jimmy acting delusional, calling for her in a room she isn't in and having to be restrained by hospital personnel.

It seems to me that Chloe is being blamed for believing the evidence that was being presented to her. For not being a mind reader and not somehow just knowing everything the audience knows.

[Kschreck]

Both Jimmy and Chloe are good on my list, but what I don't like about Chloe this season is that she keeps on TRUSTING Davis even when others tells him not to. Yet, she does not trust her own husband, the man she has been in a relationship with for many years now. How does that make sense?

The truth of the matter is that Jimmy was NOT the first person to come to Chloe with doubts about Davis. Clark had doubts and even Davis himself had doubts. But Chloe keeps on not wanting to believe, she keeps on turning a blind eye, and in this episode that denial or blindness was just taken to it's extreme when Chloe did not trust Jimmy at the very beginning of the episode.

Chloe made a mistake. She was in the wrong. And comparing Chloe tasering Jimmy to her putting Clark down with kryptonite in the past is apples and oranges.

The point is that she trusted Davis's word over Jimmy's even though she knows that Jimmy is a good guy and that Davis is highly suspect (by many people: Jimmy, Clark, Davis Himself, ect).

Just as a reporter following your gut instinct, shouldn't Chloe have had AT LEAST some questions? Such as, "Why would Jimmy think this? In fact, why would Clark? And why would Davis himself?"

Basically everything is pointing towards Davis, including his own finger, and yet Chloe doesn't want to see it. And that's why people are so against her actions in this episode.

I see some people wanting to crucify Chloe immediately and those people are balanced out by those who want to crucify Jimmy (heck someone even said Jimmy should have been murdered by Davis--if that is not biased and extreme, I don't know what is). But the average viewer seems to be concerned for Chloe because she is making the stupidest choices this season.

Chloe is literally in the hands of the enemy and she is blind to it. I'm scared for Chloe. I really am. Because I fear that she will not doubt Davis until it's too late. And frankly, it didn't have to get to that point...


Well said. What you posted here is pretty much exactly what my own thoughts were and you were able to explain them better for the both of us. :D

[Dyanara]

I pretty much feel the same way. Here, I'll scoot over and make some room for you in the life boat. :)

You and that lifeboat:rotfl: It is so cute. Seriously I have images now of you in a lifeboat

[SGuthrie27]

Great post, Dannyblue1. While it's easy for us to know that Jimmy was in the right in this case, seeing how convincingly Davis was painting Jimmy out to be delusional and himself to be heroic and just doing his job, you can see why she'd doubt her husband's judgment, especially when he had that nightmare hallucination of Doomsday murdering Chloe. She didn't dismiss Jimmy's accusations completely, and you could tell that she wasn't 100% certain what was going on, but the evidence that only SHE saw (and not all the stuff Jimmy was in on) wasn't really enough to convince her of Davis's guilt or the truth in Jimmy's story.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Clana4Life]

You and that lifeboat:rotfl: It is so cute. Seriously I have images now of you in a lifeboat

LOL I kept defending her, and then I was just like (smack) this isn't Lana. LOL I do like Chloe, too, though. :)

[SnowBird]

I gave up reading the posts on page 6...Chloe is putting her trust in the wrong person "Davis" as Clark warned her about. Davis has manipulated both Chloe and Jimmy. Chloe has made some bad choices. She never told Jimmy she was infected with Brainiac. Was this to protect Clark or couldn't she put her trust in Jimmy? It seems like they both have trust issues. Sometimes when things go terribly wrong, it is a build-up of different things. Then there is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Chloe lied to Jimmy. She trusted the wrong person. She tasered Jimmy and it doesn't matter to Jimmy why. She gave Davis a looooong hug and Jimmy saw it and who wouldn't be upset with his wife giving a man a hug that is trying to get said wife. The straw for Jimmy is Chloe taking the word of a killer over him and not trying to find out the truth. She has been an investigative reporter and would go to any lengths to find the truth but when it comes to Davis, she turns a blind eye. Mistakes on both sides has turned this marriage into a nightmare for both of them and I'm sad to see this happening.....Chloe, step back and look for the truth. Jimmy, forgiveness is the key to repairing your marriage. Work together to solve your problems. (Good advice that will probably never happen.)

[smallvillereporter27]

I gave up reading the posts on page 6...Chloe is putting her trust in the wrong person "Davis" as Clark warned her about. Davis has manipulated both Chloe and Jimmy. Chloe has made some bad choices. She never told Jimmy she was infected with Brainiac. Was this to protect Clark or couldn't she put her trust in Jimmy? It seems like they both have trust issues. Sometimes when things go terribly wrong, it is a build-up of different things. Then there is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Chloe lied to Jimmy. She trusted the wrong person. She tasered Jimmy and it doesn't matter to Jimmy why. She gave Davis a looooong hug and Jimmy saw it and who wouldn't be upset with his wife giving a man a hug that is trying to get said wife. The straw for Jimmy is Chloe taking the word of a killer over her him and not trying to find out the truth. She has been an investigative reporter and would go to any lengths to find the truth but when it comes to Davis, she turns a blind eye. Mistakes on both sides has turned this marriage into a nightmare for both of them and I'm sad to see this happening.....Chloe, step back and look for the truth. Jimmy, forgiveness is the key to repairing your marriage. Work together to solve your problems. (Good advice that will probably never happen.)

So true! I have faith that the writers will "fix" all of this. Chloe and Jimmy may never be back together, but I think they will eventually both see some truths and apologize. But there is really no going back to their previous relationshipe. Everyone thinks this is Chloe's downfall...I'm not so sure yet. I think she'll see the truth eventually. Just give it time:)

[KryptonChuck]

It was very harsh and very true. Chloe has always defended everyone (Clark and Davis) other then Jimmy. I’m glad Jimmy finally grew a pair of balls and finally told Chloe the truth.

Side note, amazing performance by Allison Mack to end the show, her tears and the sadness on her face was AMAZING.

[kitty1]

i understand jimmys point of view and also chloes...except for taking davis side..
I also see both their side. Jimmy is mad Chloe doesn't believe him and for putting him second. And Chloe thinks Jimmy is going crazy from post dramatic stress and drugs. Chloe doesn't know Davis is Doomsday and really has no reason to suspect he is a killer. Jimmy is telling her about Davis while he is all druged up-Remember the part when Jimmy running through the hospital thinking Chloe was being killed by Doomsday when she was standing infront of him safe.

[Kevin24]

I don't see Chloe's side in this at all. All she did was take Davis's word over Jimmy's. During Tomb, Clark trusted Chloe over everyone telling him that she was nutso and Clark had his doubts but still gave her the benefit of the doubt. He heard her out and they figured out that Chloe wasn't nuts afterall. Chloe didn't even believe Jimmy for a second.

This is a man who Clark as accused of being a killer and who he himself has said he is a killer......and now Jimmy says he saw him kill someone and she doesn't believe him for a second? I mean seriously?

[Kschreck]

What's even more funny is the fact that (going by the new trailer) Clark finds out that Davis is Doomsday and going by spoilers yet again it appears that Chloe will STILL continue to support Team Doomsday.

[chloesmygirl]

You know something just dawned on me. Let me say again I love Chloe but God love her how many anvils have to be dropped on her head before she wakes up. First Clark tells her that he doesn't trust Davis then Davis himself tells her he thinks he might be killing people then her own husband tells her he saw Davis kill a guy. Do you think she should have thought that was a little more than coincidence?

[DigitalKing]

I don't see Chloe's side in this at all. All she did was take Davis's word over Jimmy's. During Tomb, Clark trusted Chloe over everyone telling him that she was nutso and Clark had his doubts but still gave her the benefit of the doubt. He heard her out and they figured out that Chloe wasn't nuts afterall. Chloe didn't even believe Jimmy for a second. Tomb, that was in S5, right? I think there was another S5 episode called Splinter you might want to look at; it's a bit better of a comparison. Like this one, it contained someone crazy, who was going to hurt someone other than themselves (unlike Tomb where Chloe wasn't a danger to everyone around her). Also, it contained Chloe just straight-up K-ing Clark when he was attacking an innocent man, which is similar to when Jimmy was attacking Davis, a person Chloe has no reason to believe is dangerous.

[Dannyblue1]

I don't see Chloe's side in this at all. All she did was take Davis's word over Jimmy's. During Tomb, Clark trusted Chloe over everyone telling him that she was nutso and Clark had his doubts but still gave her the benefit of the doubt. He heard her out and they figured out that Chloe wasn't nuts afterall. Chloe didn't even believe Jimmy for a second.

This is a man who Clark as accused of being a killer and who he himself has said he is a killer......and now Jimmy says he saw him kill someone and she doesn't believe him for a second? I mean seriously?

The thing was that Davis answered every question Chloe might have had before she even asked it.

"Yeah, the police questioned me but let me go. So obviously they had no reason to believe I was guilty. Sorta like that last time when it seemed like I was guilty of some stuff, and your friend Clark swore I was a killer, only to have some other guy confess and completely exonerate me. Your husband said I did it? Well, he was heavily drugged. Overdosed in fact. Ask the doctors. What, you say the machine was working fine when you were here before. Well, it's broken now. Ask around, they'll tell you. Oh, Jimmy did see me chasing a guy, but he was a drunk driver running from the police. Ask anybody." And I have no doubt hospital personnel corroborated every word.

[Loisdragon]

Hell Yeah Jimmy Olsen. this the moment you became a Man.

[Tebow15]

I do not like Davis.

[DigitalKing]

Hell Yeah Jimmy Olsen. this the moment you became a Man.Yeah, because a man gets hopped up on painkillers, wakes up in rage and demands more painkillers, then gets pissed at his wife for not believing his drug-induced pipe dreams and cruelly rubs salt in her wounds in front of a whole hospital after she offers to talk about how he nearly beat a dude to death with a lead pipe rather than leaving him on the spot.

[Kevin24]

Tomb, that was in S5, right? I think there was another S5 episode called Splinter you might want to look at; it's a bit better of a comparison. Like this one, it contained someone crazy, who was going to hurt someone other than themselves (unlike Tomb where Chloe wasn't a danger to everyone around her). Also, it contained Chloe just straight-up K-ing Clark when he was attacking an innocent man, which is similar to when Jimmy was attacking Davis, a person Chloe has no reason to believe is dangerous.

The comparison I was making was Chloe was seen as crazy but Clark stood by her side unlike Chloe who quickly turned her back on Jimmy. Why not just hear him out? That is the least she could have done. Instead she goes over and apologizes to Davis for Jimmy's behavior and hugs me tightly and for a long time.

From Chloe's point of view it looked like Davis was innocent like the person Clark was attacking was. I don't disagree with that.


The thing was that Davis answered every question Chloe might have had before she even asked it.

"Yeah, the police questioned me but let me go. So obviously they had no reason to believe I was guilty. Sorta like that last time when it seemed like I was guilty of some stuff, and your friend Clark swore I was a killer, only to have some other guy confess and completely exonerate me. Your husband said I did it? Well, he was heavily drugged. Overdosed in fact. Ask the doctors. What, you say the machine was working fine when you were here before. Well, it's broken now. Ask around, they'll tell you. Oh, Jimmy did see me chasing a guy, but he was a drunk driver running from the police. Ask anybody." And I have no doubt hospital personnel corroborated every word.


Davis has been twice accused of being a killer and he also has pointed the finger at himself.......So it's just a coincidence that the same person is repeatedly being accused of murder?

[DigitalKing]

So she should have just blindly enabled Jimmy's addiction and put random orderlies in danger. Got it.

[Storm45]

Hell Yeah Jimmy Olsen. this the moment you became a Man.

A real man doesn't need drug to stand his ground. Too bad he wasn't able to be ''manly'' while being with Chloe. I would've digest this ship much better.

[ginnyfan]

*cries*

This line hurt me. *sigh*

[coco#1]

i actually applauded when he toldher that marrying her was a big mistake.that she took Davis` side is unforgiveable and i would have been just as pissed.in fact i was pissed at her.what a jerk chloe was in this episode

[Kevin24]

So she should have just blindly enabled Jimmy's addiction and put random orderlies in danger. Got it.


When was Jimmy putting orderlies in danger?

It's never a good idea to be dependent on drugs like it seems Jimmy has become, which was shown in the last scene of the episode. Although, I don't understand what you mean by her blindly enabling Jimmy's addiction.

The machine didn't let him get more and Davis is the one who dosed him with more drugs in the ambulance.

[ChloeBot]

You know something just dawned on me. Let me say again I love Chloe but God love her how many anvils have to be dropped on her head before she wakes up. First Clark tells her that he doesn't trust Davis then Davis himself tells her he thinks he might be killing people then her own husband tells her he saw Davis kill a guy. Do you think she should have thought that was a little more than coincidence?

Yes. I do. Why hasn't chloe connected the dots? She's the smartest person on the show!

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Tomb, that was in S5, right? I think there was another S5 episode called Splinter you might want to look at; it's a bit better of a comparison. Like this one, it contained someone crazy, who was going to hurt someone other than themselves (unlike Tomb where Chloe wasn't a danger to everyone around her). Also, it contained Chloe just straight-up K-ing Clark when he was attacking an innocent man, which is similar to when Jimmy was attacking Davis, a person Chloe has no reason to believe is dangerous.

What do you mean Chloe has *no* reason to believe that Davis is dangerous?? Davis admitted to Chloe that he had black outs and even told her that he is dangerous and Clark did the same thing and now Jimmy.

I love Chloe but I don't understand her. She shouldn't trust Davis. He's only going to get her hurt in the end. :( :( :(

[Tebow15]

^^^^^
She used to be, but I think that title is leaning more and more towards Clark.

[ChloeBot]

This episode was great but I'm scared for Chloe. She's not seeing who Davis is and at this point it's getting ridiculous. How many people have to tell Chloe to not trust Davis before she stops trusting him?

Oh PS3, please don't make Chloe so gullible just to get rid of her. Please. :(

[Storm45]

*cries*

This line hurt me. *sigh*

Something I said ? :confused:

[ChloeBot]

Something I said ? :confused:

She is referring to the line quoted in the title of this thread. :)

[Storm45]

:rotfl:
Oh Okay... Sorry I was paranoid.:o

[Kevin24]

Did Davis really get questioned by the police for six hours in this episode? How did Jimmy's levels get up so much if the machine didn't let him get too much of the drug in his system?

When Jimmy was banging on the machine? Was that when it caused him to get more of the drug into his system?

[Sports72Xtrm]

Guys I totally forgot! Chloe has Miracle Healing Tears! In a freaking hospital she is crying her eyes out! Do you know how many people from the Cancer ward and the Aids ward would love to get their hands on those tears?

By the way, does anybody have this clip on youtube? I wanna watch it over and over again.

[ginevrakent]

Tomb, that was in S5, right? I think there was another S5 episode called Splinter you might want to look at; it's a bit better of a comparison. Like this one, it contained someone crazy, who was going to hurt someone other than themselves (unlike Tomb where Chloe wasn't a danger to everyone around her). Also, it contained Chloe just straight-up K-ing Clark when he was attacking an innocent man, which is similar to when Jimmy was attacking Davis, a person Chloe has no reason to believe is dangerous.

The comparison between Turbulence and Tomb has nothing to do with taking someone out who is believed to be attacking an innocent person. It is meant to show that while Clark trusted Chloe despite the fact that she had cut her wrists and her family had a history of mental illness, Chloe could not trust Jimmy who may have only taken too much morphine. If Chloe had believed Jimmy as Clark had once believed Chloe, Jimmy would not have been pushed to investigate Davis's ambulance where he was drugged against his will or to plan a sting operation where he was forced to defend himself after seeing Davis break through his handcuffs.

Also, I rewatched Splinter. I might have missed it, but when does Chloe use kryptonite on Clark? Are you thinking of Hypnotic? It doesn't really matter because in both of these episodes Chloe investigates the cause of Clark's out of character behavior before deciding it was out of character behavior requiring drastic action. There was no question that the silver kryptonite was causing Clark's delusions and it was clear that the Simone's necklace had hypnotic powers.

In Turbulence, however, Chloe did not investigate her husband's claims, but rather believed Davis without question. This is before Jimmy had been pumped up with drugs in Davis's ambulance. Until this point, Jimmy has been a little on edge as should be expected, but he has not been violent or delusional. This was not the first time, however, that someone has accused Davis of murder. So it is just curious that Chloe did not think it suspicious enough to question Davis's story or conduct some kind of brief investigation (i.e. review hospital surveillance tapes as seen in Requiem).

Does this make Chloe evil? Does this make her a terrible person? Absolutely not, she made mistake. It is okay to make mistakes.

[wafflles87]

I hated the fact that they made Jimmy look like the bad guy and Chloe like the innocent victim in all of this.

But, Jimmy was right... she doesn't trust him. And I can understand her siding with Clark. They have history, she knows his secret. But, with Davis?? A guy she knows what.. a few months??

After this episode, I am officially off the Chloe band-wagon. I just don't care anymore. She can die, she can not, she can do whatever she wants. I don't care.

I'm just sorry Jimmy had to be dragged down for this arc.

[Kal-ed]

Im not going to get into a debate about Chloe´s actions, since I can imagine there´s more than a few ready to jump to her defence; but speaking as a guy who has been a boyfriend, it hurts when your girlfriend decides to put someone else before you, specially when that someone is a heterosexual male with looks like Clark´s or misterious sexyness like Davis, its not even about being insecure, its about being a B or C class man in your partners life.

Sure Chloe has a reason to put Clark before Jimmy, but lets not forget Jimmy doesnt know that reason so we cant really ask him to be understanding about it, when he doesnt have all the facts. Now with Davis, sure Jimmy was framed but one thing is clear is that sometimes people have to take leaps of faith in the people they trust and CHloe didnt do that for Jimmy. After she found out the truth, she still sided with Davis; honestly, how would anyone feel if their wife/husband, decided to trust someone else at every turn, Jimmy´s words stem from 2 things a) he´s partially right and b) he said it out of spite.


Although Im sure a lot of Chlavis fans and Chimmy haters are very happy tonight, congrats, I wasnt really fond of Chimmy, precisely cause I thought Chloe never really gave Jimmy the place he deserved.

[Antiyonder]

Now with Davis, sure Jimmy was framed but one thing is clear is that sometimes people have to take leaps of faith in the people they trust and CHloe didnt do that for Jimmy. After she found out the truth, she still sided with Davis; honestly, how would anyone feel if their wife/husband, decided to trust someone else at every turn, Jimmy´s words stem from 2 things a) he´s partially right and b) he said it out of spite.

And his frustration is understandable, but he willingly chose to propose to her knowing that she doesn't trust him. He never should have proposed knowing that he would continue to be untrusted. It's like choosing to marry someone you know have a drinking, smoking or gambling problem. If your spouse carefully kept it a secret until sometime after marriage, you have a right to call them out on those flaws, but if you entered the marriage (of your own free will) fully aware of those traits, you've lost some entitlements to complain.

Frankly as mentioned on here, he proposed out of impulse rather than taking the time to examine the ups and downs of their relationship or seeing a counselor before marriage.

[chlo-el]

I hated the fact that they made Jimmy look like the bad guy and Chloe like the innocent victim in all of this.

But, Jimmy was right... she doesn't trust him. And I can understand her siding with Clark. They have history, she knows his secret. But, with Davis?? A guy she knows what.. a few months??

After this episode, I am officially off the Chloe band-wagon. I just don't care anymore. She can die, she can not, she can do whatever she wants. I don't care.

I'm just sorry Jimmy had to be dragged down for this arc.

I don't think they did that at all. Not to the audience at least. I think they did a really good job of showing all sides and their motivations. In the end it looked like all characters were having a rough time. They didn't seem to show one person in the complete wrong or the completely right.

[ColdPlay3r]

go jimmy!!!!!!

[Bizarrolover]

I think Jimmy is right. chloe never trusted him. When it comes to the time of choosing sides, she always chose someone else. In identity she stood by Clark's side when she should have asked him to keep her out of the matter. She was engaged to Jimmy and when you are engaged or married, your loyalty and trust belongs to your man. Also, Chloe herself investigated Davis once (Prey) and found out that Davis' blood was under the victim's nails but yet she gave Davis the benefit of the doubt and not Jimmy (who in this case was right).

In this episode, Chloe did everything to show Jimmy he's not her priority. She hugged another guy right out of his room knowing perfectly right Jimmy could see her. She's a counselor (though she was not very good at that), so she should know how to deal with people with problems, but she's shown less patience and consideration with Jimmy than she had ever shown to other meteor freaks.

What bothers me the most about this situation is that what happened to Jimmy is not that uncommon and everyone is blaming him for things that are beyond his control. It's easy to become addicted to painkillers, especially after a traumatic experience. Jimmy was in a very vulnerable state, physically and emotionally, spent an entire month in Star City, alone or in Lois's company, recovering from severe injuries and a very traumatic experience when he should have had the support and care of his wife. She wasn't there to help him overcome the experience and I'm sure he felt lonely and abandoned by her.

Since season 6 Jimmy is pursuing Chloe and she has been running away from him. He always came second to Clark. When Jimmy finally learned to accept and respect their friendship for what it was (he really cares and trusts Clark) Davis shows up and Chloe once again places her trust in someone else.

I hope these two figure out things and break up in good terms. I don't have any hope for them (I didn't have since the beginning of Chimmy) simply because that relationship is one sided. Jimmmy loves Chloe, Chloe loves Clark and now Davis. Not a good equation to obtain a happy marriage.

[Antiyonder]

I think Jimmy is right. chloe never trusted him. When it comes to the time of choosing sides, she always chose someone else. In identity she stood by Clark's side when she should have asked him to keep her out of the matter. She was engaged to Jimmy and when you are engaged or married, your loyalty and trust belongs to your man.

Again, the question begging for an answer is why he wanted to marry her with said trust issues. I agree that Chloe screwed up big time, but if a person thinks that marrying his/her loved one will remove the flaw(s) of the spouse then he/she is setting up for a tragic marriage indeed. If anything he should have just broken it off before the idea for proposing crossed his mind.

[princessdiana]

I don't think they did that at all. Not to the audience at least. I think they did a really good job of showing all sides and their motivations. In the end it looked like all characters were having a rough time. They didn't seem to show one person in the complete wrong or the completely right.

I agree. I think everyone is going to hell in a handbasket! Everyone has their own motivation. Their doing a good job of building up to the finale

[luthorian]

This was the right way to end Chimmy with Jimmy finally realising the truth. I never understood why they were both so desperately hanging on to a relationship that neither one of them was never really happy in. Chloe was never herself and Jimmy always has been the second choice. He was so right when he said the "Clark and now Davis" thing.

Now Chloe just needs to wake up and this was a great wake up call.

The whole ending of Chimmy was well written and the acting was great, I felt bad for both of them.

[Bizarrolover]

Again, the question begging for an answer is why he wanted to marry her with said trust issues. I agree that Chloe screwed up big time, but if a person thinks that marrying his/her loved one will remove the flaw(s) of the spouse then he/she is setting up for a tragic marriage indeed. If anything he should have just broken it off before the idea for proposing crossed his mind.

I think that, in a very idealistic way (Jimmy is like that) he thought he could make it work, that his love would be enough and that Chloe, with time would trust him and love him in the same way he loved her. But they didn't even have the chance to try. Hell broke loose at their wedding and from then on, things only got worse when Chloe didn't give her husband the support he needed during his recovery. His mistake was proposing and going through the wedding, hers was accepting and going throught he wedding, both aware that she would never be able to fully commint to that marriage. Yet I think Jimmy is in the most vulnerable position right now and Chloe should have dealt with his problem in a different way. At least, even if it was out pity or gratitude for having his chest ripped trying to save her, she should have been by her husband's side.

Like I've said in the previous post, Jimmy's greatest trust issue was with Chlark, but he learned to accept their frienship and didn't see a threat in that one anymore. But now Davis shows up and the matter comes up again proving him that trusting chloe had been a mistake.

[hanemg]

The thing was that Davis answered every question Chloe might have had before she even asked it.

"Yeah, the police questioned me but let me go. So obviously they had no reason to believe I was guilty. Sorta like that last time when it seemed like I was guilty of some stuff, and your friend Clark swore I was a killer, only to have some other guy confess and completely exonerate me. Your husband said I did it? Well, he was heavily drugged. Overdosed in fact. Ask the doctors. What, you say the machine was working fine when you were here before. Well, it's broken now. Ask around, they'll tell you. Oh, Jimmy did see me chasing a guy, but he was a drunk driver running from the police. Ask anybody." And I have no doubt hospital personnel corroborated every word.

I don't know about anybody else, but that's the problem I'm having. Davis kept saying, "Ask", but Chloe never did. PCA pumps don't "just" malfunction and certainly not to the degree that they still have a functioning lock out yet when they deliver the dose it's double what it should be. Those things are set for a specific dosage and a check of the nurse who set it originally would have told you her view on it's functionality. Even if Davis changed the dosage it would still show the device itself as perfectly functional yet programed wrong. That's a medication error and something treated quite seriously in a hospital. Every piece of medical equipment in a hospital is checked by their biomed department on a regular basis so, unless the theory is that Davis is a mechanical genius/ninja who while dodging the police could sneak into a hospital room of a highly agitated man who distrusts him and alter a machine so it's "broken" yet still functions then I'll have to call foul on that alibi and it would have been fairly easy to disprove if Chloe, the woman who can hack NASA, had actually bothered to look.

Heck, for that matter delivering twice the dosage of a strong pain medication would have more likely rendered Jimmy unconscious rather than up and about and psychotic.

In short, we have dead bodies that keep showing up around and individual, a man whom you've known for years and whom you loved and trusted enough to marry pointing a finger at the same individual who keeps being associated with those bodies, and a fairly thin and easily checked alibi yet you say, "but the machine was working properly" and he replies, "no it's not, it's broken, just ask the doctor" to which you reply, "Oh, well that explains it then. Sorry, Jimmy, you're just crazy."

Sorry, Chloe. I'm just not buying it. A reasonable and prudent person would have checked for no other reason than the fact that I personally would have found it a big deal that my spouse was hooked up to a faulty machine.

[MeKa]

Chimmy is on the outs. *Finally*. Jimmy should go check if Kara's still around. AA acted really well and that final blow out at the hospital was cringe worthy. Mackster is at the top of her game.

[SGuthrie27]

What he said was still pretty harsh, though. I can totally understand where he's coming from. Through his point of view, most everything he's done has been completely rational, and through his words and hallucinations, we know how much Chloe means to him. She has sided with Clark over him multiple times. If he'd discovered the truth about the Red Blue Blur in "Identity," perhaps that would have actually solidified their relationship, because I think he would understand her sticking with Clark better. The Davis angle is harder to defend. She really doesn't know him all that well, and already has been shown reason to doubt his supposedly noble intentions, even through Davis's own confessions and fears. She should have investigated her husband's story, and Davis's rebuttal, much more closely.

Now, as for Chloe not being at her husband's side enough, she is, in a sense, working two jobs, both a full-time one at the Isis Foundation (as the couple's sole breadwinner right now), and then assisting Clark in his quest to inspire and save the defenseless citizens of Metropolis (and occasionally the world). And again, even though we haven't seen her much at MetGen, or the Star City Hospital, does not mean that she hasn't regularly been caring for him. After all, he gave that line about "You like to play Florence Nightingale" or something like that, which implies she has been regularly nursing him back to health and visiting him, wouldn't you agree?

So, in conclusion, I can understand where Jimmy's coming from, and why he said what he did, but it was still WAY harsh. He should have gone out of his way to prove his case to Chloe, even if it was just by showing chloe the same evidence he sent to Tess, rather than writing their marriage off after the double Davis/Doomsday disaster. That would put any relationship under a lot of stress and strain.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

----- Added 53 Seconds later -----

P.S. How do we KNOW she never asked about the pump Jimmy was using, or checked in with those doctors and nurses Jimmy referenced? Just because we didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't occur in Offscreenville.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

It sure was Jimmy. Just be thankful that it's over so now you can move on.

Amazing acting by AA & AM :)

[OneWayFilms]

If this IS the beginnign of the end for Chloe, I hope she gos out with respect and honor and not turn into the new Lana.

[RedKRules]

Whooooohoo Chimmmmmmy is overrrrrr...... the end of it couldn´t be any worser .... they dragged this oil/water relationship way to long ..... :D yessss Chloe is single againnn!!! and now Jimmy can go look for Kara and get some spark.... :lol:

[BAMAGIRL]

I guess we know now why Jimmy is not attending Chloe's birthday party and why Chloe wishes for a Lois-like easy life.

[Minamostaza]

I feel ad for both of them, I'm not in anyone's sides because it was their biggest mistake, sure, they are not meant for each other but deep down they love each other, and I'm not saying they crazily love each other, how can not someone love another person you've been dating for sooooo long, they love each other, but it's just that their love wasn't strong enought to get married, I'm fine with Chimmy coming to an end, but I felt really bad for them.

[unex||den||adel]

I guess we know now why Jimmy is not attending Chloe's birthday party and why Chloe wishes for a Lois-like easy life.
and the JLo awkwardly hugging pic, remember..?

she must have miss him soo much...:(

[pizzahead2490]

poor jimbo

[zorasuperman]

ouch that definitely hurt
and you can see everyone staring

[unex||den||adel]

ouch that definitely hurt
and you can see everyone staring
Good job on the pink dress nurse. :D

[RedKRules]

I am not really feeling sorry for them..... seriously this marriage was THE MISTAKE ..... and last night we only saw the consequence of it ..... I would be feeling sorry if I had to watch them living a miserable life ... with secrets, lies and cheatings.

[Lazy Boy]

Did he also say this - "You.don't.love.me.anymore!!!! Brwahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"? then capped it off by lying on the ground kicking and pounding it?

Yeah I can imagine him saying and doing that.

[Poyntz]

Everyone says chloe didn't investigate. how do we knew she didnt? the show only has about 40-45 minutes. They do not show every little thing each character does. She did tell Davis that the devise was working the night before.

And Jimmy hadn't been a saint in their relationship either. Breaks up with her so he can go out with the beautiful blonde cousin of Clark Kent. THEN he dumps the blonde when she looses her memory to get back to chloe? So the issue about trusting someone goes more then one way.

I do understand jimmy's point of view with the limited information he has. But it was still harsh.

Also at what point was chloe not thinking of her husband? she was going to star city to be with him and they mentioned that a few times. She was also desperately trying to get the transfer to Metropolis set up last episode and wanted him there and fought with the nurse about it.

I am not saying Chloe was totally in the right. But i don't think Jimmy was either. Life is full of 3 sides to every story. His...Hers and the overall truth.

[unex||den||adel]

I am not really feeling sorry for them..... seriously this marriage was THE MISTAKE ..... and last night we only saw the consequence of it ..... I would be feeling sorry if I had to watch them living a miserable life ... with secrets, lies and cheatings.
te way jimmy keep saying " we were distance for each other" after bad things happen, its really eiwl-ed me. Stop that already, we all know that aint the truth, jimbo..

[costas22]

That was rough,but i understand Jimmy's reasons.After she tasered him,it was inevitable.

[Isabel14]

I can't quite blame him...She doesn't trust him as she should...It was harsh for him to say this, but maybe it was for the best.. Anyway..anyone saw how hot he was?;):p

[Billy Jor-El]

Clark isn't the only one who super-speeds, they rushed into a marriage waaaaay too fast. Yeah, Chloe hasn't trusted Jimmy, at least with the knowledge of Clark's secret, but of Brainiac (explain that without explaining Kal-El from Krypton), and many other things. Jimmy seems inherently suspicious, always ready to jump at Chloe that he's being left out. Maybe he has a point, but he isn't taking a breath to assess the whole situation, and he sure isn't sitting down to a talk with his WIFE.... They are not meant to be together, never were. Friends, perhaps, but that's it. And certainly Chloe isn't the same girl we saw seasons ago....she's grown (matured?), had more than her share of alien influences ("Jimmy, dear, the Brain Interactive Construct that's controlling me is telling me to rip out your heart, you won't mind, will you?").

It's kind of like Clark's influence on everyone's lives he's touched has not been for the greater good. Maybe when Superman is truly born......

[Fish1941]

I'm sorry, but Jimmy was right. It was a mistake to marry Chloe. She doesn't love him. Not really. She's only using him to have her "normal" life. Did any of you check out that speech she gave to Clark before Jimmy checked out of the hospital? Disturbing.



Jimmy seems inherently suspicious, always ready to jump at Chloe that he's being left out.


He never jumped at Chloe for being left out . . . until she, Clark or Davis kept insisting that he's wrong.

[Timester]

Where was Chloe last night? I swear I didn't saw her on the episode.

[Fish1941]

Where was Chloe last night? I swear I didn't saw her on the episode.

I did. It was the dark side of Chloe. She has a tendency to get obssessed with guys she is truly interested in. Like Clark or Davis.

[LoveHurts38]

Jimmy opened his eyes.

[Timester]

I did. It was the dark side of Chloe. She has a tendency to get obssessed with guys she is truly interested in. Like Clark or Davis.

Oh, that little blonde was Chloe? It's just I'm not used to see DUMB Chloe. Heck, I think I never saw it in Smallville before...

Chloe, hello??? If Jimmy had no reason to target Davis in the first place, then why he DID? Did the Legion took the rest of Chloe's brain together with Brainiac?

[Iluvgreen]

ouch is right. But I see where he is coming from.

[Alexander III]

Where was Chloe last night? I swear I didn't saw her on the episode.

I think she was the one taking the drugs, not Jimmy. Those drugs seriously got her coo-coo!! :D

[Billy Jor-El]

Yeah, but no matter what I still LOVE Chloe. There are things needing sorting out, but she will always remain my girl ;)

[Big O]

Oh I dunno - maybe something like STOP JIMMY?

lol Yep...that probably would have been nice of Chloe to do...oh well...at least she didnt say to Jimmy before zapping him...

"This is for hurting.... the hot creepy guy with the pointy things coming out of his face!!!!

[aBR]

I didn't see 'psycho' Jimmy until after he was drugged by Davis. Jimmy claiming he saw Davis murder a man was 'lucid' Jimmy. Ok he was traumatized, but he wasn't overdosed - there was no malfunction on the pump. And as a wife, the least Chloe could have done was give her husband the benefit of the doubt and verified Davis' claims.

It's not about the tasering - clearly this was already the picture of 'psycho' Jimmy and I can't blame Chloe at at that point for wanting to protect both Davis and Jimmy - from her perspective.

What I consider a mistake on Chloe's part was the lack of faith in her husband when Jimmy claimed he saw Davis murder a man. At this point, Jimmy wasn't acting psychotic.

People make mistakes and so does Chloe, but it doesn't make her evil. Perhaps the whole point is that the foundation of this marriage was rocky to begin with - with Chloe's lack of faith, and Jimmy's insecurities.

[unfocused]

ouch that definitely hurt
and you can see everyone staring

:lol:

But yeah, Chloe was humiliated in front of everyone. But was she crying because it hurt so much, or was she crying because it was so embarrassing? I felt sorry for Allison, not Chloe. AM is so great and talented, she really hit it home with the tears and the way she was able to make Chloe seem so small, standing there with nowhere to go. I won't be missing Chloe, but I'll miss Allison a lot.

[actaeon]

Ouch is right! But-- Bravo Jimmy! I was glad he said it, I was glad he manned up and did what needed to be done. Best Jimmy episode ever!

[4Clana]

Chloe was messed up, I don't recognize her! Tasering Jimmy when he's still recovering from injuries he incurred while protecting her was not a good idea. She could have killed him. :(

[FlashInSV]

OUCH is right.
Imagine someone saying that to you! Devastating...Unless, of course, you are of the same opinion!
Both sides did some mistakes, but I am leaning towards Jimmy, I think he was more right to take some anger out on Chloe.

[topo21]

Ouch is right! But-- Bravo Jimmy! I was glad he said it, I was glad he manned up and did what needed to be done. Best Jimmy episode ever!

Agreed. I could not have said it better myself. This episode totally makes up for the episode where Jimmy became a spy.

[ginnyfan]

I didn't see 'psycho' Jimmy until after he was drugged by Davis. Jimmy claiming he saw Davis murder a man was 'lucid' Jimmy. Ok he was traumatized, but he wasn't overdosed - there was no malfunction on the pump. And as a wife, the least Chloe could have done was give her husband the benefit of the doubt and verified Davis' claims.

It's not about the tasering - clearly this was already the picture of 'psycho' Jimmy and I can't blame Chloe at at that point for wanting to protect both Davis and Jimmy - from her perspective.

What I consider a mistake on Chloe's part was the lack of faith in her husband when Jimmy claimed he saw Davis murder a man. At this point, Jimmy wasn't acting psychotic.

People make mistakes and so does Chloe, but it doesn't make her evil. Perhaps the whole point is that the foundation of this marriage was rocky to begin with - with Chloe's lack of faith, and Jimmy's insecurities.

Great post.

[DigitalKing]

I didn't see 'psycho' Jimmy until after he was drugged by Davis. Jimmy claiming he saw Davis murder a man was 'lucid' Jimmy. Ok he was traumatized, but he wasn't overdosed - there was no malfunction on the pump. And as a wife, the least Chloe could have done was give her husband the benefit of the doubt and verified Davis' claims.Wait, so you're saying that Davis used the pump as a cover story and didn't tamper with it himself in order to frame Jimmy? And then he invited them to ask the other doctors or nurses to check it for them? He must be some kind of idiot then, because he was basically asking them to disprove his assertion, and if he didn't do something to make sure that they saw what he wanted them to see, he'd have been sending himself up the river.

When Chloe didn't protest further about her Brainiac infection when Oliver confronted her (despite her outright denial) people said it was clear she was the murderer of Kane. Yet when we SAW Jimmy punch the medical pump, and then Davis asked Jimmy if he'd tampered with it, followed by Jimmy's "What?" and lack of denial, and after seeing him hit that button with all he could earlier, people are going to say there was no reason for Chloe to think that Jimmy was high on drugs?

Further, generally when people are faced with two possibilities, both negative, they tend to want to believe the least negative one. This wasn't between "Jimmy's high" and "Jimmy's telling the truth," it was between "Jimmy's high" and "Davis is a murderer." Given Jimmy's addictive family history, the way Jimmy was trying to get more morphine (even when he awoke from a bad dream!) and the fact that Chloe and Clark had already concluded that Davis was not responsible for those other murders, it was pretty easy to conclude that Jimmy was hallucinating, especially since the next time Chloe sees Jimmy, he's screaming at an empty room.

WE KNOW THAT WHAT JIMMY SAW WAS TRUE. However, Chloe can't hear you yelling at your TV set.

[smallvillereporter27]

I didn't see 'psycho' Jimmy until after he was drugged by Davis. Jimmy claiming he saw Davis murder a man was 'lucid' Jimmy. Ok he was traumatized, but he wasn't overdosed - there was no malfunction on the pump. And as a wife, the least Chloe could have done was give her husband the benefit of the doubt and verified Davis' claims.

It's not about the tasering - clearly this was already the picture of 'psycho' Jimmy and I can't blame Chloe at at that point for wanting to protect both Davis and Jimmy - from her perspective.

What I consider a mistake on Chloe's part was the lack of faith in her husband when Jimmy claimed he saw Davis murder a man. At this point, Jimmy wasn't acting psychotic.

People make mistakes and so does Chloe, but it doesn't make her evil. Perhaps the whole point is that the foundation of this marriage was rocky to begin with - with Chloe's lack of faith, and Jimmy's insecurities.

:) ITA. Chloe isn't dumb or evil. She is emotionally distressed (as shown in this episode) and made a mistake. A big mistake, but just a mistake non the less. Chimmy shouldn't have happened, this episode showed that. But why take everything bad that happened in this episode out of Chloe? To me, it looked like Davis caused most of the damage.

[supercatmom]

As I watched Turbulance, I thought that Chloe fans would be glad to see the disintergration of the marriage. Since most Chloe fans think that Jimmy is not right for her. Although I think that nobody but Clark would be deemed right for Chloe.

Although the mind wipe of Chloe by Clark was not popular, it did allow Chloe to enter the marriage to Jimmy without having to lie to him constantly. In her own words to Clark, she spends half her life protecting his secret, not to mention Ollie's secret and now presumably Davis's secret.

It takes hard work to make any marriage work. It requires total honesty between the partners. To me, Chloe and Jimmy's marriage had a major problem from the get go in that she would have to continue to lie to him about Clark and the half of her life spent protecting his secret.

She already lied to him about what really happen at the wedding. Calling the creature who destroyed the barn the King Kong of meteor freaks was a lie. To tell him the truth about Doomsday and Brainiac, two villians from Krypton would betray part of clark's secret.
So to me their marriage had major problems from the beginning.

As Clark relationship with Lois continues to grow, he will also face this issue. How can a relationship grow when you have to hide half of your life from the other person.

[ginnyfan]

^I don't think Chloe knows what attacked her at her wedding.

[galatians221]

Is my wife posting on this board?????

[chlo-el]

^I don't think Chloe knows what attacked her at her wedding.
But her and Clark were talking about the creature and Calrk was saying how the creature was controlled by Brainiac or something like that.

[Habits]

All I can say is good for Jimmy!!! I am completely on his side in this, as has been brought out when Jimmy first told Chloe about the murder he was lucid and not on drugs. As for the, "She doesn't know he's Doomsday" arguement where did Jimmy ever say some massive monster killed the guy in the hospital? He stated that Davis was the murderer, so where does Doomsday play into it at all? Also it's not like Chloe is clueless as to Davis' darker side, Davis himself came to Chloe stating that he blacks out and thinks he's hurt people yet suddenly, conveniently she decides to ignore that and blindly trusts him over her husband.

Her husband who showed the highest form of love according to the bible, I'll paraphrase, I believe it says no one shows love greater then one who would sacrifice himself/herself for another, well Jimmy showed that love on their wedding night, yet she couldn't be bothered to give him the benefit of the doubt and do even the tiniest bit of investigating, no instead she just runs out of his room and directly into the arms of another man. As someone stated before she's been having an emotional affair with Davis all season long and I for one applaud Jimmy for his actions at the end of the episode he's completely justified imo.

[hanemg]

Wait, so you're saying that Davis used the pump as a cover story and didn't tamper with it himself in order to frame Jimmy? And then he invited them to ask the other doctors or nurses to check it for them? He must be some kind of idiot then, because he was basically asking them to disprove his assertion, and if he didn't do something to make sure that they saw what he wanted them to see, he'd have been sending himself up the river.

Think about it for a second. According to Davis after Jimmy saw him he called the police who picked Davis up and held him until just a short time before he appeared back at the hospital in front of Chloe and Jimmy. Since Davis had to hide the body and then deal with the police when would he have had time to mess with the PCA pump? And for that matter, how would he have done it? Jimmy was wide awake and keyed up. Was Davis supposed to have hidden the body, avoided the police and still been able to slip into Jimmy's room and rig the pump with Jimmy unaware?

Then there's the matter of the pump itself. Is Davis also a mechanical genius as well as Doomsday? It's easy to break something, but according to Davis the machine worked perfectly except it just gave twice the normal dose. Totally ignoring the fact that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations that's a heck of a breakdown. Those things are designed so patients can't tamper with the dosage so how was Davis able to rig it in that short of a period of time so that it functioned fine as far as the lock out, general functioning, etc., but still delivered twice the dosage that Jimmy's nurse had programmed into it?

Then of course is the fact (I lied earlier about ignoring it) that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations.

So, yeah, I do think Davis was bluffing. That was one of my complaints about Chloe's behavior. Those were very simple things to check out and she never made the attempt. She just blindly ignored everyone's past concerns about Davis (including those of Davis himself) and took him at his word.

[unfocused]

Think about it for a second. According to Davis after Jimmy saw him he called the police who picked Davis up and held him until just a short time before he appeared back at the hospital in front of Chloe and Jimmy. Since Davis had to hide the body and then deal with the police when would he have had time to mess with the PCA pump? And for that matter, how would he have done it? Jimmy was wide awake and keyed up. Was Davis supposed to have hidden the body, avoided the police and still been able to slip into Jimmy's room and rig the pump with Jimmy unaware?

Then there's the matter of the pump itself. Is Davis also a mechanical genius as well as Doomsday? It's easy to break something, but according to Davis the machine worked perfectly except it just gave twice the normal dose. Totally ignoring the fact that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations that's a heck of a breakdown. Those things are designed so patients can't tamper with the dosage so how was Davis able to rig it in that short of a period of time so that it functioned fine as far as the lock out, general functioning, etc., but still delivered twice the dosage that Jimmy's nurse had programmed into it?

Then of course is the fact (I lied earlier about ignoring it) that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations.

So, yeah, I do think Davis was bluffing. That was one of my complaints about Chloe's behavior. Those were very simple things to check out and she never made the attempt. She just blindly ignored everyone's past concerns about Davis (including those of Davis himself) and took him at his word.

Good points. It wouldn't have been difficult for Chloe to confirm Davis' claims. But she didn't, why? Because she believed him over her husband. Had she given Jimmy the benefit of the doubt, we'd have a VERY different story going on right now. Chloe and Jimmy would be fine in their relationship, Clark would know of Davis and would have the opportunity to prevent the inevitable which will play out at the end of the season.

And ultimately be able to keep, whomever will die in the finale, alive. That's right. Had Chloe given her husband even the slightest benefit of the doubt, she would have saved her own life and others. Now, she may very well die because of her senseless actions, or misactions, in Turbulence. And others may die to as a result.

Good job, Chloe. You continue to outdo yourself... *sigh*

[DigitalKing]

Think about it for a second. According to Davis after Jimmy saw him he called the police who picked Davis up and held him until just a short time before he appeared back at the hospital in front of Chloe and Jimmy. Since Davis had to hide the body and then deal with the police when would he have had time to mess with the PCA pump? And for that matter, how would he have done it? Jimmy was wide awake and keyed up. Was Davis supposed to have hidden the body, avoided the police and still been able to slip into Jimmy's room and rig the pump with Jimmy unaware?

Then there's the matter of the pump itself. Is Davis also a mechanical genius as well as Doomsday? It's easy to break something, but according to Davis the machine worked perfectly except it just gave twice the normal dose. Totally ignoring the fact that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations that's a heck of a breakdown. Those things are designed so patients can't tamper with the dosage so how was Davis able to rig it in that short of a period of time so that it functioned fine as far as the lock out, general functioning, etc., but still delivered twice the dosage that Jimmy's nurse had programmed into it?

Then of course is the fact (I lied earlier about ignoring it) that twice the normal dose of pain medication is more apt to cause unconsciousness or respiratory arrest than it is to cause delusions and hallucinations.

So, yeah, I do think Davis was bluffing. That was one of my complaints about Chloe's behavior. Those were very simple things to check out and she never made the attempt. She just blindly ignored everyone's past concerns about Davis (including those of Davis himself) and took him at his word.Did the police blindly take Davis at his word too? Or did he just sit there and say nothing the entire time? If he was being questioned by the police, then they'd have to, well, ask him questions.

Any suspicion Chloe had about Davis should have been gone by the end of Prey. Chloe's only ever seen him do good things, and the guy she thinks is the real culprit is in jail. Chloe has more proof of Clark's dangerous behavior than Davis'. Also, while you might not be willing to, I'm going to ignore the medical stuff, mainly because Davis is an EMT who drives an ambulance alone.

Further, if everyone here was expecting Chloe to go on some huge quest to find out the truth, why wouldn't Davis? He asked her to look into stuff for him before; he knows that she can investigate well and I don't even know if he still thinks she's got brain powers. Also, according to the school of thought around here, since Jimmy hesitated before answering about tampering with the pump, that means he was lying.

All Chloe would have had to have done to blow all sorts of holes in Davis' story was ask one question. And forget why Chloe didn't ask for a moment. Why didn't Jimmy? If he was so suspicious, he didn't have to steal an EMT uniform and break into Davis' ambulance; he could have just asked the nurse the next time she came in if the pump was working correctly. Why didn't he? I guess Jimmy's also in love with Davis, and also a dirty canine in the land of Hugging=Cheating in which Smallville is located.

[hanemg]

Did the police blindly take Davis at his word too? Or did he just sit there and say nothing the entire time? If he was being questioned by the police, then they'd have to, well, ask him questions.

Sure they asked him questions, but unless the police have some measure of hard evidence they won't hold someone for more than questioning. The biggest lack of evidence of course being the lack of body. Hard to prove murder is there's no body.


Also, while you might not be willing to, I'm going to ignore the medical stuff, mainly because Davis is an EMT who drives an ambulance alone.

I'm confused. Why would that make you ignore the medical stuff? The fact that Davis is an EMT who drives alone is a stupid and poorly thought out/researched plot device of the writers that doesn't happen in real life. I'm just amazed that there are people around here who refer to an EMT as a medical expert. Nothing against EMT's, but I think they would be the first to point out their own limitations within the medical field.


Further, if everyone here was expecting Chloe to go on some huge quest to find out the truth, why wouldn't Davis? He asked her to look into stuff for him before; he knows that she can investigate well and I don't even know if he still thinks she's got brain powers. Also, according to the school of thought around here, since Jimmy hesitated before answering about tampering with the pump, that means he was lying.

Tampering with a PCA pump is not as easy as some people may like to think. And again, when was Davis supposed to have done this amazing mechanical engineering job? While Jimmy was fully awake and phoning the police? While he was hiding the body? While he was in police custody? Is Davis Doomsday, a mechanical genius, a ninja, and the Falsh now as well?


All Chloe would have had to have done to blow all sorts of holes in Davis' story was ask one question. And forget why Chloe didn't ask for a moment. Why didn't Jimmy? If he was so suspicious, he didn't have to steal an EMT uniform and break into Davis' ambulance; he could have just asked the nurse the next time she came in if the pump was working correctly. Why didn't he? I guess Jimmy's also in love with Davis, and also a dirty canine in the land of Hugging=Cheating in which Smallville is located.

At least Jimmy did something. You just made my point for me though. "All Chloe would have had to have done to blow all sorts of holes in Davis' story was ask one question". So, why didn't she?

[RedKRules]

Marrying u was the biggest mistake of my life?

So why did you ask her to marry you ????? .... anyway thank shelby the marriage from heck is over ...

[Tess is Smokin]

So why did you ask her to marry you ????? .... anyway thank shelby the marriage from heck is over ...


yeh indeed finally poor jimmy is free.

[DigitalKing]

At least Jimmy did something. You just made my point for me though. "All Chloe would have had to have done to blow all sorts of holes in Davis' story was ask one question". So, why didn't she?Jimmy did something? Jimmy did almost nothing. Also, that doesn't make your point for you; the only way that makes your point is if you go with the assumption that the pump was not tampered with. If the pump was tampered with then it would be unnecessary. Further, the point is that Davis couldn't just leave that to chance. And again, Jimmy was angry enough to break into his ambulance, but not ask the nurse who would have likely been just around the corner. How is Chloe being held culpable but not Jimmy, the person who actually thinks Davis is a murderer in the first place?

[RedKRules]

yeh indeed finally poor jimmy is free.

I think it was win - win sintuation for Jimmy and Chloe, even more for Chloe.....:D;)

[hanemg]

Jimmy did something? Jimmy did almost nothing. Also, that doesn't make your point for you; the only way that makes your point is if you go with the assumption that the pump was not tampered with. If the pump was tampered with then it would be unnecessary. Further, the point is that Davis couldn't just leave that to chance. And again, Jimmy was angry enough to break into his ambulance, but not ask the nurse who would have likely been just around the corner. How is Chloe being held culpable but not Jimmy, the person who actually thinks Davis is a murderer in the first place?

No one's excusing Jimmy from anything, at least I'm not, but that's not the point of my post. I just don't think we should be glossing over Chloe's responsibilities in the matter. To me, Chloe doing nothing while Jimmy does more than you think he should still doesn't make them even in the fault category. Jimmy was the one who witnessed a murder and was then doubted by his wife who five minutes later he observed hugging the murderer in question just outside of his room. To me, right or wrong, I can understand a little bit of exuberance on Jimmy's part in wanting to prove his case. Were there other ways he could have went about it? Certainly. But at least he was doing something.

Chloe doesn't ask a single question. If you want to proceed on the assumption that it is logical that she didn't need to do anything because certainly Davis wouldn't risk telling them to ask the doctor if he couldn't prove his case then that's certainly your prerogative. I would just ask you to explain when he did it. I won't even ask you to justify his magical engineering prowess because this is "Smallville" after all, but when did he have the time? And even if he did if this were your husband making this accusation wouldn't you even ask a question? Not one? Not even show outrage that your very ill husband was given too much medication due to being hooked up to faulty equipment if nothing else?

That's my only point. You don't even have to agree that Chloe should have been just the least little bit suspicious since three (3) separate people including Davis himself have voiced concerns about him murdering people. You don't even have to agree that considering her past experience with the Wall of Weird and going out on shakier limbs than this numerous times to pursue other mysteries would have supposedly been a normal response for her character. I just ask that if it were you would you have asked at least just one question?

As for the rest I'm just thinking that apparently the myth of the "truthseeker" is finally dead.

[unfocused]

The police couldn't hold Davis if there was no body. All the cops had were the claims of a "delusional, drugged patient." And Jimmy did do something. When no one had any faith in him, sadly... including his wife, he broke the story of the beast to the Daily Planet.

[Tess is Smokin]

I think it was win - win sintuation for Jimmy and Chloe, even more for Chloe.....:D;)

yeh hooking up with DD is a big improvment from jimmy

[unfocused]

And seeing that Doomsday wants to rip Chloe's head off, I'm sure everyone's happy about Chimmy breaking up.

[Tess is Smokin]

And seeing that Doomsday wants to rip Chloe's head off, I'm sure everyone's happy about Chimmy breaking up.


:\:o;):p:D:rotfl::lol:

[Alexander III]

And seeing that Doomsday wants to rip Chloe's head off, I'm sure everyone's happy about Chimmy breaking up.

Indeed :D

[justme_007]

chimmy was a big mistake for both of them (chloe and jimmy) but that jimmy has said "marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" that was just for me... too much. no one forced him to marry chloe. it says to me that he is not mature enough.

[Night_Hawk90]

chimmy was a big mistake for both of them (chloe and jimmy) but that jimmy has said "marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" that was just for me... too much. no one forced him to marry chloe. it says to me that he is not mature enough.

nobody forced chloe to marry jimmy as well so the blame lies on both parties not just jimmy, chloe knew she had doubts and yet still went through with it.

[justme_007]

nobody forced chloe to marry jimmy as well so the blame lies on both parties not just jimmy, chloe knew she had doubts and yet still went through with it.

yes, you are right. maybe i am not expressing well my thoughts. the thing for me is that those words from jimmy were just too much. I am not a chimmy fan but when i heard that i cried ... it was too hard.

He had no right to yell at her like he did. no mather what. if he loved her.. truly loved her he will just end the relationship in a good and civilized way.

I will blame the drugs for that expression

[Kevin24]

I bet Jimmy wasn't thinking the marriage was the biggest mistake of his life during alone time with Chloe.:lol::p;)

[Night_Hawk90]

I bet Jimmy wasn't thinking the marriage was the biggest mistake of his life during alone time with Chloe.:lol::p;)

man jimmy hasnt gotten any action since marrying chloe, i guess its true that once you get married the fun stops

[Kevin24]

man jimmy hasnt gotten any action since marrying chloe, i guess its true that once you get married the fun stops

:rotfl: I guess that's why Doomsday attacked and hospitalized Jimmy so he couldn't get anymore action since he is married now!:lol:

[doodie8808]

chloe got what she deserved she has been selfish and jimmy deserves better! no wonder he went to kara! she only has kryptonian men on her agenda!