People changes minds very easily...

[Aldo]

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[Sunny8]

I think it is because it is just like Lana was never there as some spoilers had indicated. So I think most people think it should be business as usual.

[Mrs. Superman]

Well I was one of those ppl that thought Clark was a jerk for not having coffee. He could have at least sat down and talked as a friend. That doesnt mean he had to get into a relationship with her, but it would have been a lot better than watching her sit there by herself all sad and dissapointed.

However now I realize he's doing it bc he feels he doesnt deserve her. He would not be able to give himself completley to her, as she deserves (which is why he doesnt tell her his secret, even though its clear she can handle it). That coupled with his fear of being hurt, has kept him from getting close romantically with her. It's easier to let her down now than later, when they might be more involved. Thats just my opinion. I actually enjoyed the scene, even though I was mad at him. Not mad at the writers just bc it makes sense with the story (and his character at this point), but definitely mad at how Clark went about it--if that makes sense. I guess the writers were goin for drama, and for once I actually think they nailed good drama.

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I think it is because it is just like Lana was never there as some spoilers had indicated. So I think most people think it should be business as usual.
Yea I think a lot of ppl want to move on and forget about that arc. I do too and I'm trying to enjoy the story as if that last arc played out much less dramatically.

[Kevin24]

I'm with you Aldo and it makes me laugh how people complain on easily swayed people on last nights episode were. Then I see posts wanting Clark and Lois together !

I think this site proves just how easily people are swayed one way or another!

[Night_Hawk90]

it sort of reminds me of that family guy episode, where lois becomes mayor and she proposes a tax hike. All the people are against it the she utters 9/11 and by the end people are throwing money at her. Uh forgot my point, but peoples opinions are way to easily swayed

[Sunny8]

Personally I think it is good that people sway so easily or else the showrunner's would not have a show because no one would be back to watch it.

[Dyanara]

I still say Lois should get over his weak butt and move on! She's too good for him

[Night_Hawk90]

I still say Lois should get over his weak butt and move on! She's too good for him

i would really love to know how lois is to good for clark? every time i see this it boggles my mind

[Dyanara]

Easy, Lois is a woman, Clark is a boy

[MrZeppo]

I'm happy to say I'm one of those people who stuck to his guns on what happened and what I wanted to see happen after "Power" and "Requiem".

I don't really want to get into all the details with why I disliked the Lana arc. A lot of things still don't make sense to me. Some I blame on poor writing or editing. You can find that all the dirty details in the "Was the Lana arc pandering..." thread for "Requiem".

To be truthful I didn't mind her until the "Power" & "Requiem" arc. She appeared to have grown SO much since she was gone and I really liked that. Why I was annoyed was because I felt Clark had serious growth in the beginning of Season 8, and Lana appeared to have shown serious growth in "Bride", "Legion", and "Bulletproof". But "Power" and "Requiem" killed it because I thought it showed Lana and Clark both in a bad light. It was the same ol' BS from prior seasons. I still think a couple throw away lines in the episode would have really saved it for me. IMHO it just fell on it's face. What an anti-climactic end to the Lana and Clark storyline I've watched for years. I dunno if KK is coming back, I know some here would even curse me saying it, but I want her back for at least 1 episode so we can see Clark and Lana both able to actually act like adults and be able to part ways amicably as friends.

But knowing the story was going to shift back to the Lois and Clark storyline, all I really wanted was for some time to pass, and for the writers to avoid jumping straight into Clois because it would look crass. If Clark immediately moved onto Lois so quickly after the tail end of the Clana storyline, it would have been horrible character assassination in my eyes.

1) Clark would look like a tool for just jumping to Lois.
2) Lois would look like a rebound instead of someone Clark chose to love.
3) And any respect to the Clana arc would have gone out the window.

I'm pretty happy to say so far I've gotten exactly what I wanted. :)

I'm SO happy the writers showed restraint here. Even when Lois knew Clark's secret she still was afraid of telling him how she felt. That's far different that the canon stories of Lois going ga-ga over meeting a superpowered man, Superman. I actually dislike that bit of canon. Only at the thought of potentially losing him and losing the knowledge of his true identity, only then did Lois say how she felt in a rather round-about way. I feel that was so unexpectedly classy and came off very well. Much better than some cliche scene of her just telling him she loves him. Not after "Requiem".

I am really proud of Lois for actually addressing the almost kiss from Bride, something that annoyed me with the original timeline. It was a pink elephant in the room and I was surprised in the current timeline she said something. And the fact she only asked him for coffee, really to touch on what had happened to them, that was cool in my eyes. It's only fair for her to wonder. And Clark was tempted, he was considering it. He could have sent her a text message from the DP or the Barn or whatever. But he showed up. He showed up because he a part of him wanted to cross that line and tell her.

And even though a part of me really wanted Clark to sit at that coffee table, if only as friends, I am glad he was able to walk away because he knows better. Clark and Lois already agreed that if both showed up there it would mean something more than "just friends". I know that some people are pissed at that. They feel Clark is a jerk because Lois was sitting there showing interest and he backed out. He got to see her there and she never saw him, he knows she's lying about the lead, while she won't know that he was standing a few feet away wanting to sit down.

I think Clark feels Lois deserves the best, I happen to agree with that, and shouldn't she get the real Clark if they are together? Not some lie like he fed Lana over and over and over. He's not willing to do that, to bear to hurt her that way. He thinks he's doing the right thing, with just reasons too. Yes he hurt her, but it is a small hurt in comparison to the hurt he imagines will befall her someday if he sat down at that table across from her.

But he was tempted to. People should take solace in that. Because that's a beginning. For all the Clois this season, we haven't seen much of Clark pining for Lois. It's been quite the opposite, Lois having feelings for Clark. I think this is the first real time we see him pining for her this season. That's huge in my opinion. But hey, that's just me.

In the end I think he made the right choice. If he sat down, Lois would have gotten her hopes up in a way he'd ultimately disappoint her in. Because he can't hide who he is from Lois if they got together, and anyone who knows his real identity would be subject to the same risks that his other loved ones have suffered in the past. Look at all the screwed up stuff that happened to Lana and Chloe alone. Whoa. I bet he feels like his life is a curse, capable of doing amazing good, but never really getting close to anyone because of the risks involves with just being human and being with him.

So count me among the few who really loved this episode. I think it was a top-notch, especially seeing Clark smile so genuinely. There was great progression, it's subtle and isn't just thrown in your face, but you just have to be positive and be open to see it.

In the end the only thing that bothered me was Tori Spelling. :)

[Deana]

I am sticking to my guns too. There is no way, I wanted Clois to progress after that Lana Arc. If they take it slowly and actually convince me that Clark isn't a slave to Lana's memory than maybe I'll change my mind.

[AndiGirl]

Oh....I woudl have been furious if they got together right now. I'm still a bit upset Lois was so ready to give it a go. I'm all for forgivenes...but she wasnt even curious about the Clana drama. :\

Clark needs to earn her, so I was very happy with this outcome...

[Aalliya]

Spot on Mr. Zeppo! My thoughts exactly :)

[skylar]

Its just upsetting from both sides things will turn around

[latingirl]

I'm happy to say I'm one of those people who stuck to his guns on what happened and what I wanted to see happen after "Power" and "Requiem".

I don't really want to get into all the details with why I disliked the Lana arc. A lot of things still don't make sense to me. Some I blame on poor writing or editing. You can find that all the dirty details in the "Was the Lana arc pandering..." thread for "Requiem".

To be truthful I didn't mind her until the "Power" & "Requiem" arc. She appeared to have grown SO much since she was gone and I really liked that. Why I was annoyed was because I felt Clark had serious growth in the beginning of Season 8, and Lana appeared to have shown serious growth in "Bride", "Legion", and "Bulletproof". But "Power" and "Requiem" killed it because I thought it showed Lana and Clark both in a bad light. It was the same ol' BS from prior seasons. I still think a couple throw away lines in the episode would have really saved it for me. IMHO it just fell on it's face. What an anti-climactic end to the Lana and Clark storyline I've watched for years. I dunno if KK is coming back, I know some here would even curse me saying it, but I want her back for at least 1 episode so we can see Clark and Lana both able to actually act like adults and be able to part ways amicably as friends.

But knowing the story was going to shift back to the Lois and Clark storyline, all I really wanted was for some time to pass, and for the writers to avoid jumping straight into Clois because it would look crass. If Clark immediately moved onto Lois so quickly after the tail end of the Clana storyline, it would have been horrible character assassination in my eyes.

1) Clark would look like a tool for just jumping to Lois.
2) Lois would look like a rebound instead of someone Clark chose to love.
3) And any respect to the Clana arc would have gone out the window.

I'm pretty happy to say so far I've gotten exactly what I wanted. :)

I'm SO happy the writers showed restraint here. Even when Lois knew Clark's secret she still was afraid of telling him how she felt. That's far different that the canon stories of Lois going ga-ga over meeting a superpowered man, Superman. I actually dislike that bit of canon. Only at the thought of potentially losing him and losing the knowledge of his true identity, only then did Lois say how she felt in a rather round-about way. I feel that was so unexpectedly classy and came off very well. Much better than some cliche scene of her just telling him she loves him. Not after "Requiem".

I am really proud of Lois for actually addressing the almost kiss from Bride, something that annoyed me with the original timeline. It was a pink elephant in the room and I was surprised in the current timeline she said something. And the fact she only asked him for coffee, really to touch on what had happened to them, that was cool in my eyes. It's only fair for her to wonder. And Clark was tempted, he was considering it. He could have sent her a text message from the DP or the Barn or whatever. But he showed up. He showed up because he a part of him wanted to cross that line and tell her.

And even though a part of me really wanted Clark to sit at that coffee table, if only as friends, I am glad he was able to walk away because he knows better. Clark and Lois already agreed that if both showed up there it would mean something more than "just friends". I know that some people are pissed at that. They feel Clark is a jerk because Lois was sitting there showing interest and he backed out. He got to see her there and she never saw him, he knows she's lying about the lead, while she won't know that he was standing a few feet away wanting to sit down.

I think Clark feels Lois deserves the best, I happen to agree with that, and shouldn't she get the real Clark if they are together? Not some lie like he fed Lana over and over and over. He's not willing to do that, to bear to hurt her that way. He thinks he's doing the right thing, with just reasons too. Yes he hurt her, but it is a small hurt in comparison to the hurt he imagines will befall her someday if he sat down at that table across from her.

But he was tempted to. People should take solace in that. Because that's a beginning. For all the Clois this season, we haven't seen much of Clark pining for Lois. It's been quite the opposite, Lois having feelings for Clark. I think this is the first real time we see him pining for her this season. That's huge in my opinion. But hey, that's just me.

In the end I think he made the right choice. If he sat down, Lois would have gotten her hopes up in a way he'd ultimately disappoint her in. Because he can't hide who he is from Lois if they got together, and anyone who knows his real identity would be subject to the same risks that his other loved ones have suffered in the past. Look at all the screwed up stuff that happened to Lana and Chloe alone. Whoa. I bet he feels like his life is a curse, capable of doing amazing good, but never really getting close to anyone because of the risks involves with just being human and being with him.

So count me among the few who really loved this episode. I think it was a top-notch, especially seeing Clark smile so genuinely. There was great progression, it's subtle and isn't just thrown in your face, but you just have to be positive and be open to see it.

In the end the only thing that bothered me was Tori Spelling. :)

Thanks for said what I feel exactly...

I think that these is the first time that Clark is taking in consideration de consequences of his desicion and for POV He loves Lois in a more muture way than he did in the past with Lana, Chloe, Alicia, He is choosing the solitude before hurting her as a consecuences of all lies that he will have to say in order to be the one who really is not.

Another good thing for me but it is pissed of a lot guys is her "weakness", for me this was not a WEAKNESS, it was the most honest and Pure example of essence of Lois' sweet heart and bravery, she was facing not only to Clark also her own Fierce and ghosts. She gave him a opportunity to do the same or just be honest with her, But Clark (in Lois' perceptive) ruined everything, not for me.. And now for teh farm boy is coming a hard and difficult times

[petewillreturn]

I'm happy to say I'm one of those people who stuck to his guns on what happened and what I wanted to see happen after "Power" and "Requiem".

I don't really want to get into all the details with why I disliked the Lana arc. A lot of things still don't make sense to me. Some I blame on poor writing or editing. You can find that all the dirty details in the "Was the Lana arc pandering..." thread for "Requiem".

To be truthful I didn't mind her until the "Power" & "Requiem" arc. She appeared to have grown SO much since she was gone and I really liked that. Why I was annoyed was because I felt Clark had serious growth in the beginning of Season 8, and Lana appeared to have shown serious growth in "Bride", "Legion", and "Bulletproof". But "Power" and "Requiem" killed it because I thought it showed Lana and Clark both in a bad light. It was the same ol' BS from prior seasons. I still think a couple throw away lines in the episode would have really saved it for me. IMHO it just fell on it's face. What an anti-climactic end to the Lana and Clark storyline I've watched for years. I dunno if KK is coming back, I know some here would even curse me saying it, but I want her back for at least 1 episode so we can see Clark and Lana both able to actually act like adults and be able to part ways amicably as friends.

But knowing the story was going to shift back to the Lois and Clark storyline, all I really wanted was for some time to pass, and for the writers to avoid jumping straight into Clois because it would look crass. If Clark immediately moved onto Lois so quickly after the tail end of the Clana storyline, it would have been horrible character assassination in my eyes.

1) Clark would look like a tool for just jumping to Lois.
2) Lois would look like a rebound instead of someone Clark chose to love.
3) And any respect to the Clana arc would have gone out the window.

I'm pretty happy to say so far I've gotten exactly what I wanted. :)

I'm SO happy the writers showed restraint here. Even when Lois knew Clark's secret she still was afraid of telling him how she felt. That's far different that the canon stories of Lois going ga-ga over meeting a superpowered man, Superman. I actually dislike that bit of canon. Only at the thought of potentially losing him and losing the knowledge of his true identity, only then did Lois say how she felt in a rather round-about way. I feel that was so unexpectedly classy and came off very well. Much better than some cliche scene of her just telling him she loves him. Not after "Requiem".

I am really proud of Lois for actually addressing the almost kiss from Bride, something that annoyed me with the original timeline. It was a pink elephant in the room and I was surprised in the current timeline she said something. And the fact she only asked him for coffee, really to touch on what had happened to them, that was cool in my eyes. It's only fair for her to wonder. And Clark was tempted, he was considering it. He could have sent her a text message from the DP or the Barn or whatever. But he showed up. He showed up because he a part of him wanted to cross that line and tell her.

And even though a part of me really wanted Clark to sit at that coffee table, if only as friends, I am glad he was able to walk away because he knows better. Clark and Lois already agreed that if both showed up there it would mean something more than "just friends". I know that some people are pissed at that. They feel Clark is a jerk because Lois was sitting there showing interest and he backed out. He got to see her there and she never saw him, he knows she's lying about the lead, while she won't know that he was standing a few feet away wanting to sit down.

I think Clark feels Lois deserves the best, I happen to agree with that, and shouldn't she get the real Clark if they are together? Not some lie like he fed Lana over and over and over. He's not willing to do that, to bear to hurt her that way. He thinks he's doing the right thing, with just reasons too. Yes he hurt her, but it is a small hurt in comparison to the hurt he imagines will befall her someday if he sat down at that table across from her.

But he was tempted to. People should take solace in that. Because that's a beginning. For all the Clois this season, we haven't seen much of Clark pining for Lois. It's been quite the opposite, Lois having feelings for Clark. I think this is the first real time we see him pining for her this season. That's huge in my opinion. But hey, that's just me.

In the end I think he made the right choice. If he sat down, Lois would have gotten her hopes up in a way he'd ultimately disappoint her in. Because he can't hide who he is from Lois if they got together, and anyone who knows his real identity would be subject to the same risks that his other loved ones have suffered in the past. Look at all the screwed up stuff that happened to Lana and Chloe alone. Whoa. I bet he feels like his life is a curse, capable of doing amazing good, but never really getting close to anyone because of the risks involves with just being human and being with him.

So count me among the few who really loved this episode. I think it was a top-notch, especially seeing Clark smile so genuinely. There was great progression, it's subtle and isn't just thrown in your face, but you just have to be positive and be open to see it.

In the end the only thing that bothered me was Tori Spelling. :)


Thanks for said what I feel exactly...

I think that these is the first time that Clark is taking in consideration de consequences of his desicion and for POV He loves Lois in a more muture way than he did in the past with Lana, Chloe, Alicia, He is choosing the solitude before hurting her as a consecuences of all lies that he will have to say in order to be the one who really is not.

Another good thing for me but it is pissed of a lot guys is her "weakness", for me this was not a WEAKNESS, it was the most honest and Pure example of essence of Lois' sweet heart and bravery, she was facing not only to Clark also her own Fierce and ghosts. She gave him a opportunity to do the same or just be honest with her, But Clark (in Lois' perceptive) ruined everything, not for me.. And now for teh farm boy is coming a hard and difficult times


I agree with what both of you have said.

And I really like the new twist that Smallville has for Lois and Clark.
Usually it is Clark who is pining away for Lois who doesn’t even know he’s alive and is all goggle eyed for Superman. Here Lois cares for Clark before Superman, and he knows it.

I really liked this episode a lot, because it show so much about how Lois feels. When Lois was telling Clark about how “some people spend their whole lives looking for a way to stand out to be a person anyone would call special.” I believe she was talking about herself and how she has never felt special. For me the key word is special. She then goes on to tell Clark “why should I think I’m special.” I think this scene and the last seen where she is waiting shows how much she cares for Clark, but believes he doesn’t care for her. I found these scenes heartbreaking, and I think Erica did a wonderful job.

In regards to the Clana, I buy it as the first love, and sometimes hard for people to let go and move on. Their world has crumbled. So I can deal with the how the ending of clana went. What I don’t buy is the soul mate/true love/one and only that some say it is, if they like this kind of story line fine, but I don’t. But I do want Lana on the show again without the power of the suit, and Clark to choose between his past and present.

[vikingjedi]

Well I was one of those ppl that thought Clark was a jerk for not having coffee. He could have at least sat down and talked as a friend. That doesnt mean he had to get into a relationship with her, but it would have been a lot better than watching her sit there by herself all sad and dissapointed.

However now I realize he's doing it bc he feels he doesnt deserve her. He would not be able to give himself completley to her, as she deserves (which is why he doesnt tell her his secret, even though its clear she can handle it). That coupled with his fear of being hurt, has kept him from getting close romantically with her. It's easier to let her down now than later, when they might be more involved. Thats just my opinion. I actually enjoyed the scene, even though I was mad at him. Not mad at the writers just bc it makes sense with the story (and his character at this point), but definitely mad at how Clark went about it--if that makes sense. I guess the writers were goin for drama, and for once I actually think they nailed good drama.

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Yea I think a lot of ppl want to move on and forget about that arc. I do too and I'm trying to enjoy the story as if that last arc played out much less dramatically.

Good take, I definitely agree.

[Dyanara]

Another good thing for me but it is pissed of a lot guys is her "weakness", for me this was not a WEAKNESS, it was the most honest and Pure example of essence of Lois' sweet heart and bravery, she was facing not only to Clark also her own Fierce and ghosts. She gave him a opportunity to do the same or just be honest with her, But Clark (in Lois' perceptive) ruined everything, not for me.. And now for teh farm boy is coming a hard and difficult times


I am one of the one's who saw it as weakness; I think that might be because I know what happened while she was gone and it disgusts me to see she still wants him. Then again I am not the kind of person to put myself out there.

[Iluvgreen]

I kinda see your point... but it CLois. We love it.

I was mad at Clark for going with Lana, but I never lost my faith in Clois. I'm not mad that he didn't kiss her, because he needs to sort out his feelings right now. I respected his decsion...even though I wanted them to kiss very badly........... Oh well. I loved everything about this episode, and I don't need to worry about Lana because she's never coming back again!

[Dyanara]

Ok one of my problems is that at this rate if Lana does come back it just sets it up for Clark to choose her over Lois once again. That is a main problem for me. I never wanted Clark to kiss her because like you, it is too soon after the blackhole that was CLana. In my best scenario Lois doesnt want Clark anymore. But seeing as how she still does I know I am being irrational and my personal problems are coming into why I view these circumstances as weaknesses and being pathetic.

[llk6165]

Why is it the Before Infamous was aired, All I read was "Clark does't deserve Lois" "Clark's a wuss for kissing Lana" "I can't believe Clark can still be in loved with Lana, and After a few episodes he will be falling for Lois..." "I don't want Clois Anymore!" blah blah blah...
And NOW After Infamous was aired, I read alot of Angry Comments at Clark for not Kissing/dating Lois....Giving that weeks ago, the same people didn't even want to see Lois near that "Jerk" of Clark:rolleyes:???

I felt like I was in the middle of those Paparazzis on the farm scene.

People changed minds very weirdly easy...:\

Its a new eppy, ya just gottas roll with the punches. On TV, time heals everything

[davidbrenton]

Emotions are high and people are extremely invested in Clois. They were hurt by the Clana arc and reacting.

[FlashInSV]

Oh, I haven't changed my mind and I haven't forgotten. What Clark did was unbelievably retarted and that's why I've been posting "It's too soon!" all over the forum.

[petewillreturn]

I am one of the one's who saw it as weakness; I think that might be because I know what happened while she was gone and it disgusts me to see she still wants him. Then again I am not the kind of person to put myself out there.

I think you bring up a great point, and I think it deserves a thread of its own. How much does Lois know about what happened between Clark and Lana?

I’m thinking that she thinks nothing really happened or else Lana and Clark would be together.

When Clark forgot to pick her up at the airport Lois didn’t confront him about what almost happened, and just assumed that she wasn’t important. In the second scenario when he does pick her up she does bring up what almost happened.

[workshyslacker]

My mind's not changed! Clark is still a wuss. :\

[kelly1142]

I think that the scene with Chloe before the coffee shop scene really set everything up.

Clark said himself that it was the moment after he told Lois, he thought he could have it all. But what's fresher in his mind is the chaos that ensued, the trouble Lois (and everyone else) could be in.

Chloe called him on the fact that he was protecting himself, and I think that's true as well. Because in his mind, if Lois' life is as affected as it was in the other timeline, eventually he'd lose her, so it's just easier to stay friends.

He's wrong, of course, but I can respect that he was at least trying to make a decision. He doesn't feel he can tell her, yet he knows he can't be in a relationship with her halfway, she deserves better. He respects that.

But I think it was so telling that he showed up there. Despite that resolve he had in the conversation with Chloe, he was still drawn there, all dressed up and tempted to take that step. And he saw her. When he got her text, he knew that the walls were going back up.

I'm not angry at Clark at all, I think he honestly thinks he's doing the right thing for both of them. Of course, he'll eventually realize he's wrong, but I think he's coming from a place of trying to protect them both.

It wasn't 'just coffee', and they both knew that.

As for Clois in general, I liked the ending because I think it sets up a lot of potential story, especially once you add the RBB to the mix.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Why is it the Before Infamous was aired, All I read was "Clark does't deserve Lois" "Clark's a wuss for kissing Lana" "I can't believe Clark can still be in loved with Lana, and After a few episodes he will be falling for Lois..." "I don't want Clois Anymore!" blah blah blah...
And NOW After Infamous was aired, I read alot of Angry Comments at Clark for not Kissing/dating Lois....Giving that weeks ago, the same people didn't even want to see Lois near that "Jerk" of Clark:rolleyes:???

I felt like I was in the middle of those Paparazzis on the farm scene.

People changed minds very weirdly easy...:\

:lol: I completely agree. When Clark didn't meet Lois for coffee i was happy. It made sense that he wouldn't so soon after Lana, and i was glad that he wasn't rebounding on her even though he had just found out that he blatantly could, and we know he likes her.

It actually made me respect him more, which will help for when Clois eventually does happen, cause before i kinda hated him.

[myankskent]

Why is it the Before Infamous was aired, All I read was "Clark does't deserve Lois" "Clark's a wuss for kissing Lana" "I can't believe Clark can still be in loved with Lana, and After a few episodes he will be falling for Lois..." "I don't want Clois Anymore!" blah blah blah...
And NOW After Infamous was aired, I read alot of Angry Comments at Clark for not Kissing/dating Lois


I can't speak for anyone else, but I am not angry that Clark didn't kiss/date Lois. I am angry that he decided to stand Lois up for coffee when he could've gone and told her that he was not ready for another relationship. It would've showed that Clark is more mature and instead, it's more of the same with Clark, only this time, we're now going to drag Lois into it.

[Jor-Fer]

Clark doesn´t deserve Lois?Lois too good for clark?Please , clark has spent his entire life saving people ,protecting his friends and fighting against monsters to protect the planet.Nobody is paying him for this and he doesn´t want to . also he saved Lois life more than once.Do you really think that Lois is too good for Clark?This has gone too far.

[workshyslacker]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am not angry that Clark didn't kiss/date Lois. I am angry that he decided to stand Lois up for coffee when he could've gone and told her that he was not ready for another relationship. It would've showed that Clark is more mature and instead, it's more of the same with Clark, only this time, we're now going to drag Lois into it.

I agree.

I didn't want Clark to jump into a relationship with Lois after the recent Lana arc and I'm glad there was no kiss in Infamous. I just wished he was more upfront with Lois than leaving her to sit in the cold, waiting for him. He should've just been honest with her about not wanting to pursue a relationship at this time. It's not like she wouldn't understand, especially as she wasn't angry he hadn't told her his secret for the last five years. Instead he turned up and let his insecurities overtake his empathy for Lois, and in walking away he hurt her again. Certainly not a mature and gentlemanly thing to do. So, yeah, he is a wuss.

[Alania]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am not angry that Clark didn't kiss/date Lois. I am angry that he decided to stand Lois up for coffee when he could've gone and told her that he was not ready for another relationship. It would've showed that Clark is more mature and instead, it's more of the same with Clark, only this time, we're now going to drag Lois into it.

Same here. I'm glad they didn't kiss, i'm glad they didn't try to push Clois, i'm glad they didn't ignore the Clana, i'm glad Clark is full of doubts, it should all be like that, cause the last thing i wanted was Lois as second choice or that lightswitch stuff people came up with. Now i know none of those will be the case and i couldn't be more satisfied. Lois and Clark cannot happen anytime soon, Clark needs time for himself right now, to work on his feelings and on his hero side. Let just the hints and this platonic thing going on for a while. But i still think they should have talked, they need to talk at some point, ignore things just doesn't work.

I have to admit i was one of those who said that didn't want him anywhere near Lois; but that's because i'm a total Lois fan and it hurt me seeing Clark all over Lana after almost kissing her. And i still stand by this position, but not because of this "she's too good for him" stuff, but because he needs to be over Lana completely in order to move on to Lois, i don't her with pieces of Clark, i want her with a fully recovered Clark from his last relationship.

[PokaPlaya]

Clark doesn´t deserve Lois?Lois too good for clark?Please , clark has spent his entire life saving people ,protecting his friends and fighting against monsters to protect the planet.Nobody is paying him for this and he doesn´t want to . also he saved Lois life more than once.Do you really think that Lois is too good for Clark?This has gone too far.

I think ppl are refering to his actions in context of relationships alone. His hero duties have nothing to do with it. One can be a healer, philanthropist, or respected world leader and can still be a schmuck when it comes to relationships. Their "jobs" and their personal lives are not mutually inclusive, that is someone can be "great" or "heroic" publicly or in secret as in this case but that doesn't neccessarily translate into him being great or heroic when it comes to being in love with someone. I think ppl would like to be with someone who took their relationship as seriously as anything else they did in their "professional" lives.

[smallv17]

It actually made me respect him more, which will help for when Clois eventually does happen, cause before i kinda hated him.

I completely agree. My mind hasn't changed at all during the Lana arc.

As most people I loathed Power/Requiem not only beacause of Lana but mostly because PS3 treated to Clark. He suddenly stopped being the man he was this season and his character regressed dramatically.

I am a Clois fan but the fact that Clark didn't meet Lois at the coffee shop made me respect him more too. Their relationship isn't childish like Clana, on the other hand it's mature and all grown up, evolving all year long.

Clark's emotions aren't a lightswitch he just needs some time to find a balance between his new life/secret identity/RBB etc and his feelings for Lois.

As long as PS3 write him strong, thoughtfull, intelligent and mature I have no problem. I wouldn't even have a problem with Lana if Clark had been the same person he was in the first half of S8 with her.

Everything else will come, don't worry!:p

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Same here. I'm glad they didn't kiss, i'm glad they didn't try to push Clois, i'm glad they didn't ignore the Clana, i'm glad Clark is full of doubts, it should all be like that, cause the last thing i wanted was Lois as second choice or that lightswitch stuff people came up with. .

Exactly. With this decision Clark showed his respected Lois and didn't use her as a back-up plan after Lana.

[Aldo]

When Clark didn't meet Lois for coffee i was happy. It made sense that he wouldn't so soon after Lana, and i was glad that he wasn't rebounding on her even though he had just found out that he blatantly could, and we know he likes her.

It actually made me respect him more, which will help for when Clois eventually does happen, cause before i kinda hated him.


Clark doesn´t deserve Lois?Lois too good for clark?Please , clark has spent his entire life saving people ,protecting his friends and fighting against monsters to protect the planet.Nobody is paying him for this and he doesn´t want to . also he saved Lois life more than once.Do you really think that Lois is too good for Clark?This has gone too far.

Agree 100% .;)

[Dyanara]

Yes Lois is too good for Clark, as is Lana, and Chloe as well

[Night_Hawk90]

Yes Lois is too good for Clark, as is Lana, and Chloe as well

wow thats pretty harsh,

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Clark doesn´t deserve Lois?Lois too good for clark?Please , clark has spent his entire life saving people ,protecting his friends and fighting against monsters to protect the planet.Nobody is paying him for this and he doesn´t want to . also he saved Lois life more than once.Do you really think that Lois is too good for Clark?This has gone too far.

agree 100 percent, people are just upset that their precious lois got hurt in the process, it was pretty obvious he was not going to go to that coffee date with lois its just way to soon. Give the guy a break

[hero`s passion]

I was pretty sure that all people who said that will change their mind, but it was rather annoying to read it...as for me I was a bit angry but I know that Clois will be whatever happens so I was rather calm about it...
Clark acts like a jerk sometimes, but I still like him very much...and it strange that Cloisers don`t want Clark be with Lois...I mean, there will be no Clois without Clark...it will be Lois... and Lois??? I like him as much as I like Lois...
And it just a show, if he would kiss her at the wedding and they had a coffee and then live long and happily it wouldn`t be interesting to watch, of course they should be in love and tried hard to be together or something like that, because all shows are like that...

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

I think they are a perfect match, they are both realy, really stupid.

[joyce20]

I'm happy to say I'm one of those people who stuck to his guns on what happened and what I wanted to see happen after "Power" and "Requiem".

I don't really want to get into all the details with why I disliked the Lana arc. A lot of things still don't make sense to me. Some I blame on poor writing or editing. You can find that all the dirty details in the "Was the Lana arc pandering..." thread for "Requiem".

To be truthful I didn't mind her until the "Power" & "Requiem" arc. She appeared to have grown SO much since she was gone and I really liked that. Why I was annoyed was because I felt Clark had serious growth in the beginning of Season 8, and Lana appeared to have shown serious growth in "Bride", "Legion", and "Bulletproof". But "Power" and "Requiem" killed it because I thought it showed Lana and Clark both in a bad light. It was the same ol' BS from prior seasons. I still think a couple throw away lines in the episode would have really saved it for me. IMHO it just fell on it's face. What an anti-climactic end to the Lana and Clark storyline I've watched for years. I dunno if KK is coming back, I know some here would even curse me saying it, but I want her back for at least 1 episode so we can see Clark and Lana both able to actually act like adults and be able to part ways amicably as friends.

But knowing the story was going to shift back to the Lois and Clark storyline, all I really wanted was for some time to pass, and for the writers to avoid jumping straight into Clois because it would look crass. If Clark immediately moved onto Lois so quickly after the tail end of the Clana storyline, it would have been horrible character assassination in my eyes.

1) Clark would look like a tool for just jumping to Lois.
2) Lois would look like a rebound instead of someone Clark chose to love.
3) And any respect to the Clana arc would have gone out the window.

I'm pretty happy to say so far I've gotten exactly what I wanted. :)

I'm SO happy the writers showed restraint here. Even when Lois knew Clark's secret she still was afraid of telling him how she felt. That's far different that the canon stories of Lois going ga-ga over meeting a superpowered man, Superman. I actually dislike that bit of canon. Only at the thought of potentially losing him and losing the knowledge of his true identity, only then did Lois say how she felt in a rather round-about way. I feel that was so unexpectedly classy and came off very well. Much better than some cliche scene of her just telling him she loves him. Not after "Requiem".

I am really proud of Lois for actually addressing the almost kiss from Bride, something that annoyed me with the original timeline. It was a pink elephant in the room and I was surprised in the current timeline she said something. And the fact she only asked him for coffee, really to touch on what had happened to them, that was cool in my eyes. It's only fair for her to wonder. And Clark was tempted, he was considering it. He could have sent her a text message from the DP or the Barn or whatever. But he showed up. He showed up because he a part of him wanted to cross that line and tell her.

And even though a part of me really wanted Clark to sit at that coffee table, if only as friends, I am glad he was able to walk away because he knows better. Clark and Lois already agreed that if both showed up there it would mean something more than "just friends". I know that some people are pissed at that. They feel Clark is a jerk because Lois was sitting there showing interest and he backed out. He got to see her there and she never saw him, he knows she's lying about the lead, while she won't know that he was standing a few feet away wanting to sit down.

I think Clark feels Lois deserves the best, I happen to agree with that, and shouldn't she get the real Clark if they are together? Not some lie like he fed Lana over and over and over. He's not willing to do that, to bear to hurt her that way. He thinks he's doing the right thing, with just reasons too. Yes he hurt her, but it is a small hurt in comparison to the hurt he imagines will befall her someday if he sat down at that table across from her.

But he was tempted to. People should take solace in that. Because that's a beginning. For all the Clois this season, we haven't seen much of Clark pining for Lois. It's been quite the opposite, Lois having feelings for Clark. I think this is the first real time we see him pining for her this season. That's huge in my opinion. But hey, that's just me.

In the end I think he made the right choice. If he sat down, Lois would have gotten her hopes up in a way he'd ultimately disappoint her in. Because he can't hide who he is from Lois if they got together, and anyone who knows his real identity would be subject to the same risks that his other loved ones have suffered in the past. Look at all the screwed up stuff that happened to Lana and Chloe alone. Whoa. I bet he feels like his life is a curse, capable of doing amazing good, but never really getting close to anyone because of the risks involves with just being human and being with him.

So count me among the few who really loved this episode. I think it was a top-notch, especially seeing Clark smile so genuinely. There was great progression, it's subtle and isn't just thrown in your face, but you just have to be positive and be open to see it.

In the end the only thing that bothered me was Tori Spelling. :)

wow lol nicely put. That's exactly how I thought about the whole thing too. I felt so bad for Lois but still that would be too sooon for the both of them

[SnowBird]

What goes around, comes around. You think your favorite character is above board and untouchable. Lois, Chloe and Lana fans criticize Clark for everything from soup to nuts. Then the writers throws us a curve and all of a sudden your favorite character is taking the heat and they are all of a sudden on the bottom of the dirt pile. Be careful of what you say because it might be your favorite character that is in the hot seat next and you will be on the defensive.....Clark is a good guy that is caught in the middle of ship wars and I will be standing by him no matter what. He does make some mistakes because after all, he is not a God. He is an alien man trying to do the best he can on a planet of humans that make mistakes themselves. No one is perfect, not even your favorite character, so give Clark some slack because like I said, what goes around, comes around.....In my eyes, Clark is doing the right thing in taking some time to step back and regrouping instead of going full steam ahead into a new relationship and I have held steady to this way of thinking.

[Sunny8]

What goes around, comes around. You think your favorite character is above board and untouchable. Lois, Chloe and Lana fans criticize Clark for everything from soup to nuts. Then the writers throws us a curve and all of a sudden your favorite character is taking the heat and they are all of a sudden on the bottom of the dirt pile. Be careful of what you say because it might be your favorite character that is in the hot seat next and you will be on the defensive.....Clark is a good guy that is caught in the middle of ship wars and I will be standing by him no matter what. He does make some mistakes because after all, he is not a God. He is an alien man trying to do the best he can on a planet of humans that make mistakes themselves. No one is perfect, not even your favorite character, so give Clark some slack because like I said, what goes around, comes around.....In my eyes, Clark is doing the right thing in taking some time to step back and regrouping instead of going full steam ahead into a new relationship and I have held steady to this way of thinking.

I have no problem criticizing anyone that I like. If they are wrong they are wrong no matter whether I like them or not. That is why I never liked the way Lana was dealt with. When she was wrong no one told her. That is unreal.

[Alania]

What Clark did was unbelievably retarted

That was writer's call, not Clark's. They were so worried about giving Lana Lang this so called sendoff that they forgot how would Clark leave all that without being more damaged. Now, they need to "rebuild" him from here.


Yes Lois is too good for Clark, as is Lana, and Chloe as well

All girls love him and all girls got hurt, it's not like he did it on his own free will or forced them to love him. Lana has the biggest part on their relationship failure, that is for sure. Clark struggled a lot, to the point of getting severly damaged, that is undeniable. And Chloe has been written as third point for too long, imo, not Clark's fault either and he never gave her false hopes, as far as i recall. Lois is being thrown off balance with this love for Clark, but it was her call to take her chances with him again. Distance is being taken now, which is the most respectable thing they could've done with Lois and Clark. Not crossing that street was the only effective solution writers came up with in order not to cheap and brush off all the Clana they threw at us and rush that iconic relationship they started before Legion, thus characterizing a lightswitch - which would look even worse for Clark - or the hideous rebound theory. And also, like supes0 said, to settle ground for the triangle to come: Lois stops trying with Clark and focus completely on the RBB. In the mean time, cut they baby blues some slack ;)

[Dyanara]

I have no problem criticizing anyone that I like. If they are wrong they are wrong no matter whether I like them or not. That is why I never liked the way Lana was dealt with. When she was wrong no one told her. That is unreal.

Thank you I agree, what is with this idea that all of a sudden because we are pointing out Clark is an idiot we will not do the same for other characters. I have criticized Lois*Chloe and Ive been on the *****out Lana wagon for a looooooooooong time!

[Kevin24]

Thank you I agree, what is with this idea that all of a sudden because we are pointing out Clark is an idiot we will not do the same for other characters. I have criticized Lois*Chloe and Ive been on the *****out Lana wagon for a looooooooooong time!

Sounds like you criticize alot:lol:

[Dyanara]

Yep and Im good at it

[Kevin24]

Yep and Im good at it

I'll pay more attention to your posts from now on and see if you really are good at it.:lol:

[Dyanara]

You telling me you never had the urge to criticize Clark, Daddy Kent, Momma Kent, Lana(now we all criticize Lana) and especially the writers?

[Kevin24]

You telling me you never had the urge to criticize Clark, Daddy Kent, Momma Kent, Lana(now we all criticize Lana) and especially the writers?

Yes, of course I have. :)

Sorry if it sounded like I was passing judgment on you, but I was only kidding around. I just wanted to put a smile on your face and others who might have found the comment amusing.:D

[Dyanara]

No I was kidding, I went back later to try and put some smileys in to make it more clear but I couldnt. That last post wasnt an attack.