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doodie8808
03-12-2009, 08:58 PM
im confused why would clark not tel lois his secert again if she went through all this crap to help him does he blame her for the backlash i mean im so confused by his actions or is he confused himself!:(

avisray1992
03-12-2009, 09:37 PM
IMO, he didn't want to tell her his secret because he wants to protect her. He loves her (or is finding out that he loves her) and doesn't want to risk losing her.

dreamscometrue
03-12-2009, 09:52 PM
Clark has deep feelings for Lois and I think is just starting to find that out for himself. He wants to protect her because people will do anything to get to him, and doesn't want to put her in danger

Alicia Chipy
03-12-2009, 10:00 PM
Clark must come to the realization that Lois can handle his secret.

AndiGirl
03-12-2009, 10:03 PM
I think its more about protecting Lois then anything.
He failed to mention that he never really willingly told Chloe or Lana his secret. They both just kind of found out. If it was up to him...neither of them would know. He thinks its just too much of a burden for people to take on...and he doesnt want that for Lois.

She thought the fact that he woudlnt tell her meant he didnt care....and Clark just wanted her to know its quite the opposite. At this point...he cares too much to "do that to her." (even though we all know she could handle it...and would want to handle it).

But I've got to respect Clark for trying to lay off relationships and figure things out for himself.

Fish1941
03-12-2009, 10:04 PM
Have any of you noticed that Clark never tells others his secret? He never tells anyone his secret. He is always found out. Pete found out. Chloe found out. And so did Lana. And I suspect that is what will happen to Lois. Unless she turns out to be the first one he actually tells.

Clois4eva89
03-12-2009, 10:05 PM
This didn't really bother me because we all know in the future Clark tells her everything.Long after she does the scoop on Superman when Clark reveals himself to the world as an alter-ego.

kookykrumbs
03-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Clark should have at least told Lois that Chloe and Lana found out on their own.

Iluvgreen
03-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Lois is special to him! That's why he's protecting her!

MrZeppo
03-12-2009, 10:46 PM
Have any of you noticed that Clark never tells others his secret? He never tells anyone his secret. He is always found out. Pete found out. Chloe found out. And so did Lana. And I suspect that is what will happen to Lois. Unless she turns out to be the first one he actually tells.

Actually this situation and what happened with Pete is very similar.

Alicia outed Clark to Chloe.
Lana had suspicions, but she was a snoop and tricked Chloe into revealing Clark's secret.

But Pete found the ship and Clark told him his secret because he felt like he didn't have a choice. Just like in this episode he felt he had no choice.

doomvskal86
03-12-2009, 10:48 PM
It's really Clark just protecting Lois

BULLITT
03-14-2009, 06:41 PM
Saved her, two days in a row. Never did that for anyone else.

liana
03-14-2009, 06:57 PM
I think its more about protecting Lois then anything.
He failed to mention that he never really willingly told Chloe or Lana his secret. They both just kind of found out. If it was up to him...neither of them would know. He thinks its just too much of a burden for people to take on...and he doesnt want that for Lois.

She thought the fact that he woudlnt tell her meant he didnt care....and Clark just wanted her to know its quite the opposite. At this point...he cares too much to "do that to her." (even though we all know she could handle it...and would want to handle it).

But I've got to respect Clark for trying to lay off relationships and figure things out for himself.

That's exactly what it is, although I do agree with Chloe too about it. Of course, Clark wants to protect Lois, and he never wanted for Chloe or Lana to find out because he believes that knowing his secret is a burden. The only people he told was Pete, and after what happened to him, he believes it is a bad idea for others to find out. However, when Chloe told Clark that protect his secret was a safe way to prevent himself for being hurt, we could see that Clark stayed silent for a second, and then changed the subject immediately, because Chloe nailed it. He wants to protect Lois, but he also wants to protect himself.

It is a safe bet that Clark doesn't want to fall in love again, and he suspects that if he starts anything with Lois now, it is bound to happen. He feels very strong about her for it NOT to happen. And if he starts something with Lois, sooner or later he will be in a position of getting hurt again, like what happened with Lana. So, he probably believes that if he doesn't let anything to happen, it just won't.

Sometimes, I think that Clark is truly naive. As much as he wants to prevent it, he can't stop himself from caring or loving someone. He can control his actions, but never his feelings, no matter how hard he tries. He can never act on those feelings, but he can't stop them from growing, if they are meant to be, and we already know that those feelings are meant to stay. What makes things worse is the fact that Clark has already been there. In Season 3, he tried to stay apart from Lana because he believed that being with her put her in danger. It didn't change her feelings or his feelings, and he ended being hurt and hurting her in the process regardless. Now, he is trying to prevent getting involved with Lois, but Lois is already part of his life, as Lana was before her. It will end up being fruitless, as it did before. It is just a waste of time, effort and pain. :(

Alania
03-14-2009, 07:53 PM
im confused why would clark not tel lois his secert again if she went through all this crap to help him does he blame her for the backlash i mean im so confused by his actions or is he confused himself!:(

I don't know, i'm as confused as you, but one thing i know: "you're special" is not an excuse, it's far from it!!! To me, that was as lame as "Lois is so Lois". How come her being special is a reason not to tell his secret?! Maybe if he said: "I can't put u in danger, Lois, u mean a lot to me" would have sounded better. I'm guessing she's gonna figure him out when she kisses him, like Mary Jane in Spiderman movie. Since, according to her in Hydro, it's the best kiss she's ever had, she will probably remember. That if the writers don't miss this detail.


Clark must come to the realization that Lois can handle his secret.

He's had that chance before; a little in "Blank", a lot in Crimson and Apocalypse and a lot now, Infamous. All of those times, he's seen she reacts positively, doesn't take it as a big deal, she's either amazed or higly attracted. Even Kara knows she can handle, what else does he need? All those years together, he should have known she doesn't care about ordinary things, she cares and like the extraordinary, where Clark fits. That's why she's a front page newspaper journalist, she always wants the extraordinary scoops.
But, that's Superman thing, he never tells his secret to anyone, people find out and i suspect it will be no different with Lois.

paolinki25
03-14-2009, 08:19 PM
Yeah, I guess it's more about protecting her and I guess there's some sort of "secret meaning/future reference to it" about Lois falling for Superman later on.

Supsfan
03-14-2009, 08:39 PM
Because this show loves drama(hiding secrets) and keeping things as ambigious as possible("because you're special") so all fans can fanwank to suit there needs.

myankskent
03-14-2009, 08:48 PM
The writing was horrendous here. I didn't understand this line from Clark. If he doesn't tell Lois because she's special, then does that mean that the billions of other people in the world that he doesn't tell are special too? Very confusing. Most of the time, I don't think even the writers know what point they are trying to make.

petewillreturn
03-14-2009, 08:49 PM
I'm guessing she's gonna figure him out when she kisses him, like Mary Jane in Spiderman movie. Since, according to her in Hydro, it's the best kiss she's ever had, she will probably remember. That if the writers don't miss this detail.



I’m also guessing something like that is going to happen. I also wonder what Clark was thinking the same thing she was after they kissed.

Supsfan
03-14-2009, 08:57 PM
The writing was horrendous here. I didn't understand this line from Clark. If he doesn't tell Lois because she's special, then does that mean that the billions of other people in the world that he doesn't tell are special too? Very confusing. Most of the time, I don't think even the writers know what point they are trying to make.

I agree, "you're special because {fill in 4 more seconds of dialogue}" would have been much better writing. My point above stands, by keeping it as ambigious as possible you don't piss off the other shipper groups as much

SnowBird
03-14-2009, 08:59 PM
Clark told Lois his secret and the Feds were after her and Linda Lake attached her, and that happened only after two days. Right now he hasn't taken on the dual identity so he is concerned for Lois because what if he was found out later, this could happen all over again where the population turns against Clark. Lois is special to him and he wants to protect her. Like he said before. "people who knows his secret either dies or walks away from him." Good reasons in my book for Clark NOT to tell Lois his secret for now.

myankskent
03-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Clark told Lois his secret and the Feds were after her and Linda Lake attached her, and that happened only after two days. Right now he hasn't taken on the dual identity so he is concerned for Lois because what if he was found out later, this could happen all over again where the population turns against Clark.


It could, but Lois was a target because she wrote the article about Clark. If Clark were to tell her again right now, it wouldn't be so that she can write an article that exposes him to the world.

Supsfan
03-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Clark told Lois his secret and the Feds were after her and Linda Lake attached her, and that happened only after two days. Right now he hasn't taken on the dual identity so he is concerned for Lois because what if he was found out later, this could happen all over again where the population turns against Clark. Lois is special to him and he wants to protect her. Like he said before. "people who knows his secret either dies or walks away from him." Good reasons in my book for Clark NOT to tell Lois his secret for now.

Probably the wrong thread but it made absolutely no sense for Clark to go save Lois when he was going to reverse time in the first place. It was also wierd how Linda was at Clark's place, then the DP for the Lois scene, then steals the ring in that short amount of time. You think when Clark came up with the idea to reverse time with the Legion ring he would have went for the Legion ring right away.

I wish they would have script police try catch issues like that in the storyline. It also makes 0 sense why Clark didn't use the ring with Lana(which was 1 episode ago) but come up with the idea right away in this episode

Alania
03-14-2009, 09:09 PM
I agree, "you're special because {fill in 4 more seconds of dialogue}" would have been much better writing. My point above stands, by keeping it as ambigious as possible you don't piss off the other shipper groups as much

When i re-watch that scene, i skip the "you're special". It is just ridiculous, another clois bone. And your reason is not far out there at all, i thought i was tunning in a show where apparently the main character Clark Kent is some kind of superhero-to-be, but Shipperville keeps airing in the middle:rolleyes:

SnowBird
03-14-2009, 09:22 PM
It could, but Lois was a target because she wrote the article about Clark. If Clark were to tell her again right now, it wouldn't be so that she can write an article that exposes him to the world.

In Clark's mind, he is thinking of the consequences of what will happen to Lois if his identity of Clark the alien were to ever be revealed again. He just experienced the worst two days and is gun shy. Anyone associated with Clark would be hounded just like Chloe for just knowing him. Clark needs time to sort this all out and think it over. Give him some time to develop his hero identity so people won't go after Clark as an alien and he can have a private life. He can then tell Lois without the fear of someone going after her becouse of her association with Clark. Like someone mentioned, Superman has no address. He comes and goes as a hero. No one is going to track him down and find Lois or at least there is less chance. I don't know why it is so hard to for some people to understand that he just wants to protect Lois and the best way he knows how is for her to not know his secret at this time.

I'm beginning to think that people wants Lois to know Clark's secret because Chloe does. Am I wrong?

myankskent
03-14-2009, 09:26 PM
In Clark's mind, he is thinking of the consequences of what will happen to Lois if his identity of Clark the alien were to ever be revealed again. He just experienced the worst two days and is gun shy. Anyone associated with Clark would be hounded just like Chloe for just knowing him.


In that case, I don't see what the problem is for Lois to know. If he's exposed as an alien, wouldn't Lois be hounded since she works right next to the guy at the DP? She's also a close friend of his. So IMO, Lois is in danger either way.

Just to add to this, I've just had enough with all of the drama about Clark not being able to tell people his secret. I feel that this show has already explored this storyline. Also, Lex Luthor of all people, providing that he is still alive, is out there while knowing Clark's secret. It doesn't get any worse than that for Clark.

SnowBird
03-14-2009, 09:42 PM
In that case, I don't see what the problem is for Lois to know. If he's exposed as an alien, wouldn't Lois be hounded since she works right next to the guy at the DP? She's also a close friend of his. So IMO, Lois is in danger either way.

Yes, you are probably right and Lois would be hurt because he didn't tell her his secret and would stay away from him instead of jumping right in the middle of it all like she did. It wasn't so good of an argument on my part but sounded good at the time...LOL.

Alania
03-15-2009, 08:54 AM
I’m also guessing something like that is going to happen. I also wonder what Clark was thinking the same thing she was after they kissed.

Well, just remember his look after he sped out of there and took of the hood and mask.:D It's a giveaway!!

Mickey_Bickey
03-15-2009, 10:35 AM
Well, just remember his look after he sped out of there and took of the hood and mask.:D It's a giveaway!!

The writers and producers dropped the ball BIGTIME after that kiss in Hydro. That's when they should have started really developing Clark's feelings for Lois at that point. His face said it all. He was blown away and shocked, plus he kept kissing her even when she had stopped and realized it wasn't Oliver.

I really hope we get something like this in [spoiler] Stiletto in the phone booth [/quote]. Then we can have Clark verbalize how he felt later on much like Lois did in Hydro.

rej@ne
03-15-2009, 10:42 AM
In Clark's mind, he is thinking of the consequences of what will happen to Lois if his identity of Clark the alien were to ever be revealed again. He just experienced the worst two days and is gun shy. Anyone associated with Clark would be hounded just like Chloe for just knowing him. Clark needs time to sort this all out and think it over. Give him some time to develop his hero identity so people won't go after Clark as an alien and he can have a private life. He can then tell Lois without the fear of someone going after her becouse of her association with Clark. Like someone mentioned, Superman has no address. He comes and goes as a hero. No one is going to track him down and find Lois or at least there is less chance. I don't know why it is so hard to for some people to understand that he just wants to protect Lois and the best way he knows how is for her to not know his secret at this time.

I'm beginning to think that people wants Lois to know Clark's secret because Chloe does. Am I wrong?

I totally agree with ya!!! He´s just trying to protect her cuz he still blames himself of what happened to Lana´s life after she found out abt his secret!!! He doesn´t want to see Lois getting hurt or worst becouse of him" And I also agree that ppl are jealous abt Chloe knowing his secret and Lois doesn´t!!!! So ppl get over it and stand by Ck´s side ok?:p:p

hero`s passion
03-15-2009, 10:49 AM
Oh, it would be great if they kiss again like in Hydro (Clark asa RBB), but this time for real, because I was laugh when Lois said that it was her best kiss, they actually just touch each others lips, what was so great, I can`t get it:))))))))))))

llk6165
03-15-2009, 10:57 AM
im confused why would clark not tel lois his secert again if she went through all this crap to help him does he blame her for the backlash i mean im so confused by his actions or is he confused himself!:(


Maybe this helps. Technically, I believe Clark did not say Lois IS SPECIAL, but something a little different. He won't tell her BECAUSE SHE IS SPECIAL. The word "because" changes the whole meaning. In his mind, it is because she is special to him that he feels he cannot tell her. He has always felt that everytime someone finds out, their life gets more difficult, dangerous or just weird. In his mind he feels he must do this to protect her. Kind of like the old steroetype where the hero decides what is best for the girl, without letting her make up her own mind. Old fashioned chivalry.
IMO kind of sexist, but it makes for interesting TV.

To put it in another way, a person who is very sick may refuse to get in a relationship with someone they really love, because they don't want that person to mourn. Realistically, that person will mourn anyway, but from the sick person's perspective they think they are sparing the loved one additional pain.

Obviously Clark is not sick, and that was just an analogy. I think in his mind, he is doing what he thinks is best for Lois, fogetting that Lois is the one who must decide what is best for her.

Mickey_Bickey
03-15-2009, 11:00 AM
Oh, it would be great if they kiss again like in Hydro (Clark asa RBB), but this time for real, because I was laugh when Lois said that it was her best kiss, they actually just touch each others lips, what was so great, I can`t get it:))))))))))))

No, it's more than just a brush of the lips! I have to say that even watching the scene where Lois is telling him how great a kisser the GA was you can see how Clark is revisiting that kiss with her the night before as she's talking. Great scenes! I really hope we get a longer one in Stiletto too!;):D

llk6165
03-15-2009, 11:03 AM
I've read a couple of posts here criticizing the writing.

ROCK ON. (not Clark's rock.)
I agree. They could have written that scene better and did need a few extra seconds.

hero`s passion
03-15-2009, 11:08 AM
No, it's more than just a brush of the lips! I have to say that even watching the scene where Lois is telling him how great a kisser the GA was you can see how Clark is revisiting that kiss with her the night before as she's talking. Great scenes! I really hope we get a longer one in Stiletto too!;):D

I agree that it was a great scenes, and very funny too, but the kiss wasn`t real, to be honest:))))))

Alania
03-15-2009, 11:17 AM
I don't know why it is so hard to for some people to understand that he just wants to protect Lois and the best way he knows how is for her to not know his secret at this time.



I can only speak for myself here: it makes no difference for me that Lois knows or not Clark's secret, as long as the writes create exciting moments around it. Plus, if she knew, it would steal Chloe's part as his confidant, cause Lois is already his love interest, having her knowing the secret, she would mean all to him. but Just because u think his reason is to protect Lois, doesn't mean everyone else needs to think so too. Clark has had many chances before to know how would Lois react to his secret, so, keep insisting that she can never know his secret is not making too much sense anymore. Everything went crazy in Infamous, Lois got in danger because she exposed him to the world, this fuzz won't happen if Clark tells only Lois.




The writers and producers dropped the ball BIGTIME after that kiss in Hydro. That's when they should have started really developing Clark's feelings for Lois at that point. His face said it all. He was blown away and shocked, plus he kept kissing her even when she had stopped and realized it wasn't Oliver.

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Couldn't agree more, Michele!!! Clark's reaction in the alley was completely forgotten, even after she told him it was the best kiss she's ever had!!!! They should have started something there, but haven't. Writers chose to let go this detail and keep moving on with Clana.

yaseen101
03-15-2009, 12:20 PM
I can only speak for myself here: it makes no difference for me that Lois knows or not Clark's secret, as long as the writes create exciting moments around it. Plus, if she knew, it would steal Chloe's part as his confidant, cause Lois is already his love interest, having her knowing the secret, she would mean all to him. but Just because u think his reason is to protect Lois, doesn't mean everyone else needs to think so too. Clark has had many chances before to know how would Lois react to his secret, so, keep insisting that she can never know his secret is not making too much sense anymore. Everything went crazy in Infamous, Lois got in danger because she exposed him to the world, this fuzz won't happen if Clark tells only Lois.



Lois can't know Clark's secret yet. It would only be years after Superman emerges.

Ginx
03-15-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally I was a little irritated that he didn't tell her again...but then I thought about it and realized that they can now have the scene again at a later time, when CK is not as skittish, he's not on the rebound, and they can add in more iconic moments such as the 'pink undies' :) So now I'm ok with the fact that he didn't tell her asap - I'm looking forward to the moment when it happens for real. :)

TWNik
03-15-2009, 12:26 PM
What is he supposed to say, when EDLo is whining to him about wanting to be "special"?

Clark is of course going to tell her what she wants to hear. Most men do that, unless they are a complete douchebag.

Xanusus
03-15-2009, 12:35 PM
Because it truly IS special not to know Clark's secret. Seriously every regular cast member on the show found out Clark's secret.

Ma and Pa - obviously
Chloe - check
Pete - check
Lana - check
Lex - check
Lionel - check
Oliver - check
meteor freaks - check

Only Jimmy and Lois are special.

Alania
03-15-2009, 12:57 PM
Lois can't know Clark's secret yet. It would only be years after Superman emerges.


In the comics and mythos, yeah, but that show is not exactly faithful to the mythos, so i gotta follow their logic. If she kisses Clark, she'll figure him out, since she knows his lips, so, in order to keep her clueless about him, they can't even kiss before Clark establishes his alter-ego.

Night_Hawk90
03-15-2009, 02:21 PM
What is he supposed to say, when EDLo is whining to him about wanting to be "special"?

Clark is of course going to tell her what she wants to hear. Most men do that, unless they are a complete douchebag.

Haha spoken like a true gentleman:lol:

hero`s passion
03-15-2009, 02:34 PM
Because it truly IS special not to know Clark's secret. Seriously every regular cast member on the show found out Clark's secret.

Ma and Pa - obviously
Chloe - check
Pete - check
Lana - check
Lex - check
Lionel - check
Oliver - check
meteor freaks - check

Only Jimmy and Lois are special.

:rotfl:Oh, yeah, Jimmy the most special person for Clark:)))) a new ship????:lol:

Supsfan
03-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Originally I was a little irritated that he didn't tell her again...but then I thought about it and realized that they can now have the scene again at a later time, when CK is not as skittish, he's not on the rebound, and they can add in more iconic moments such as the 'pink undies' :) So now I'm ok with the fact that he didn't tell her asap - I'm looking forward to the moment when it happens for real. :)

I am guessing they will have him tell her (assuming Clois is endgame) when they romantically involved. Till then he will be all depressed and hung up about should he or shouldn't he. Part of me is happy because I think Clark looks better when people don't know his secret(like earlier seasons when his Parents were the only one who knows) and part of me fears we will get alot of angsty Clark(ala Clana)

Sunny8
03-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Why does Lois, or anyone for that matter, need to know Clark's secret? Does it make him any less who he is if they don't know? Will he not continue to save them if they don't know? I don't understand why people needed to know his secret in the first place. Really, the only person that needs to know his secret is the person he marries. Otherwise, unless it is a doctor or one of his super hero friends that need to know his abilities for rescue purposes no one needed to know, I think. People are selfish and only want to know his secret so that they can feel special, but they never consider whether it is best for Clark that they know his secret or not. What does Clark get out of someone knowing his secret?

Edit: I just answered my question in another thread as to why it is important for Lois to know Clark's secret. I remember in the Lois and Clark series, when Lois knew Clark Kent's secret she never allowed him to put her before rescuing people. Unless she needed to be rescued herself, Lois and Clark always made the decision that Superman had to save people above anything else. So if Lois knows Clark's secret she will not be so upset with him whenever he has to disappear on her. So it is more than just about her feeling special and important.

bigblueplanet
03-15-2009, 05:45 PM
The writing was horrendous here. I didn't understand this line from Clark. If he doesn't tell Lois because she's special, then does that mean that the billions of other people in the world that he doesn't tell are special too? Very confusing. Most of the time, I don't think even the writers know what point they are trying to make.

ITA. If anything, this barn scene showed me how much he is clueless (as usual) about what Lois was trying to tell him and she was spot-on when she said he is so blind. I don’t think he get it, though. Any of it. To me it was very clear when he replied her, "Because you’re special". Yeah, right. Like you said, she is as special as the rest of the population in this planet for him. lol

It’s because he wants to protect her? Lois is already one of his closest friends who works side by side with him for crying out loud. And it’s pretty clear he’s not planning to tell the whole world that Clark Kent is an alien from Krypton this time, so…….what’s the point?

I think it’s just a BAD plot device for the writers to set up their so-called *triangle for two* in the future. If Caroline Dries were a good writer, she would through some outcome in this episode which gives Clark a clear reason not to tell Lois for her own sake. But the events in this episode didn’t show us any logical reason for him to think “All of this made one thing very clear for me. Lois can never know who I really am.” She (Dries) GOT to be kidding here. How out-of-the-world this line sounds? Well, I sure hope this is not the *only thing* he learned from this event, otherwise this episode will be labeled as a ‘filler’ for sure. :rolleyes:

Since this is on-topic, I’d like to dig a bit more about this line. It sounds so ironic because 1), again, SV is based on a written story and we all know Lois will know the secret one day and she’ll be just as fine as sunshine and 2), Lois WAS fine in this very episode unlike Chloe. I mean Lois got almost tasered by the Feds and probably be captured in the custody but that’s not really a big deal when you have Supes as a friend, right? But Chloe on the other hand looks like she got squashed by Doomsday. Okay, Clark doesn’t know that but what makes him think Lois can never know his secret within what he knows during the chaos, if it wasn’t for him going public? Absolutely none.

If anything, this incident showed him just how much Lois can handle his secret without any problem, imo. So………one would wonder, what makes him tell her in the future if THIS event makes him vow he won’t? So I’m left with :confused: in my head.


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Tatiana
03-15-2009, 05:56 PM
Actually this situation and what happened with Pete is very similar.

Alicia outed Clark to Chloe.
Lana had suspicions, but she was a snoop and tricked Chloe into revealing Clark's secret.

But Pete found the ship and Clark told him his secret because he felt like he didn't have a choice. Just like in this episode he felt he had no choice.


ya but Lois didn't find anything about Clark that made him tell her, he decided to tell her, he could have picked someone else to tell his story,even Chloe but he picked Lois and in my opinion, he looked quite happy to tell her.

sarcami
03-15-2009, 05:58 PM
Blame it on the mythos

myankskent
03-15-2009, 06:01 PM
I think it’s just a BAD plot device for the writers to set up their so-called *triangle for two* in the future. If Caroline Dries were a good writer, she would through some outcome in this episode which gives Clark a clear reason not to tell Lois for her own sake. But the events in this episode didn’t show us any logical reason for him to think “All of this made one thing very clear for me. Lois can never know who I really am.” She (Dries) GOT to be kidding here. How out-of-the-world this line sounds?


If anything, this incident showed him just how much Lois can handle his secret without any problem, imo. So………one would wonder, what makes him tell her in the future if THIS event makes him vow he won’t? So I’m left with :confused: in my head.


Yeah, the writing on this show has gotten so bad and IMHO, this show was never designed to go this far where Clark now has to decide whether or not to tell Lois. We've seen this tired storyline play out with other characters and I don't need to see it with Lois either. All this is going to do is end up destroying characters even more, mainly Clark.

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Why does Lois, or anyone for that matter, need to know Clark's secret?


They don't but if TPTB are now going to start making the secret into a big deal with Clois, then have Clark tell her already. One of the reasons why I have always liked Clois, prior to this season, was because TPTB kept Lois out of all of the drama about Clark and his secret. But if that is now going to become an issue, I'd rather it not be another torturous decision that Clark has to make because we have seen it all before on this show. Seeing it again with Clois does not make this relationship more special than the others that we have seen. It instead, puts the Clois relationship on par with all of the others.

And I just want to say another thing now before things move too far along. Unfortunately, Clois on Smallville will always be compared to past relationships that we have seen with Clark, Clana being the biggest one. IMO, it's extremely important that TPTB do not rehash the same old storylines that we have seen with other relationships that Clark has had. If they're going to go with Clois, they need to keep it fresh and free of all of the problems that we have been forced to watch with Clana. It's important to Lois as a character and it's important to Clark as a character so that we can see that he has actually matured over the course of this series. If "Infamous" is to provide us a glimpse of what is to come with Clois, then it's going to be a very long 9th season.

Tatiana
03-15-2009, 06:05 PM
the special comment was meaning he has feelings for her, not only about his secret, I am glad also Clark didn't even think about going back in time to change Lana's situation, it means he is moving on, in the past he would have done that like in reckoning

Big O
03-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Clark told Lois his secret and the Feds were after her and Linda Lake attached her, and that happened only after two days. Right now he hasn't taken on the dual identity so he is concerned for Lois because what if he was found out later, this could happen all over again where the population turns against Clark. Lois is special to him and he wants to protect her. Like he said before. "people who knows his secret either dies or walks away from him." Good reasons in my book for Clark NOT to tell Lois his secret for now.

Right....I was reading some posts as to why Clark would not reveal his secret to Lois after he went back in time...and that scene with the Feds waiting for Lois...immediately popped into my noggin...as Im guessing..it remained in CK's head too.

CK got a glimpse...of how quickly..people can turn against him...so hes pardon the pun..pretty gun shy at this moment in his life...and doesnt want to do or say anything..that will put more people than he cares about & loves...at risk or in harms way...because they know his secret.

The Feds cant hurt him with their weapons..but..they could easliy hurt CK very badly...by kidnapping & holding Lois or Chole etc.....and threathing to jail them...unless he agrees to do what they want etc,....

Clark is an alien.... with amazing powers & ablities....but..hes pretty human...when it comes to affairs of the heart...and also... when it comes to making bad decisions & mistakes..

I think..the writers..have shown CK to be hestiant..unsure of himself and making dopey mistakes....during his interactions with Chloe...Lana & Lois.....so we the viewers..can relate more to him.....and see...that hes really...not a Superman..at everything..

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[quote=bigblueplanet;4610933]ITA.

Lois WAS fine in this very episode unlike Chloe. I mean Lois got almost tasered by the Feds and probably be captured in the custody but that’s not really a big deal when you have Supes as a friend, right?
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Yeah...Supes could break Lois out of any jail..provided he knew where Lois was being held.

But...if CK did that....free Lois out of a government prison...wouldnt the Feds instantly brand CK...or the RBB...a criminal and a real menace in the Feds mind....and prove to them...that they were right to fear the RBB & be suspicious of his true motives?

Lois showed us in Infamous...she could handle knowing CK's the RBB......but... the problem for Clark is.....Linda Lake & Lex ...know hes the RBB.. ..and if...either one of them..wanted to get to him...all they have to do..is hurt Lois...

CK is not Superman yet...so...hes still trying to figure things out and finding his way..to his ultimate destiny...so he's not 100% sure or confidant... how to handle certain situations...today...that he will know...in 5 /10 years from now...all he realizes is..he can run faster than the speed of sound & bullets cant hurt him....but even the RBB...cant be everywhere at once....and he cant watch over Lois...24/7....so..CK has to be wondering to himself...if Linda Lake & Lex...found out his secret....and know hes the RBB...how many other bad guys outhere...might know it....or who... Lake & Lex might have told it too...

CK doesnt know Lake is dead yet..and my quess is..he's not 100% confinced..Lex is gone for good.

bigblueplanet
03-16-2009, 05:26 AM
Yeah...Supes could break Lois out of any jail..provided he knew where Lois was being held.

But...if CK did that....free Lois out of a government prison...wouldnt the Feds instantly brand CK...or the RBB...a criminal and a real menace in the Feds mind....and prove to them...that they were right to fear the RBB & be suspicious of his true motives?

But Clark did intercept them by saving Lois in that scene, didn’t he? I think in their eyes Clark proved them to be a menace already when he refuses to be examined/throw one of them and knock him out/flee himself from his house. YMMV

But this incidents itself has no point after he hit the re-set button because he is not gonna tell the world Clark Kent is an alien this time. Lois was targeted because she is the one who wrote the article. When chaos hits the Metropolis, everyone knew Chloe is his best friend because of the article but Feds didn’t go after Chloe for being his best friend. Were they going to? Maybe. But at least it didn’t happen in this episode, hence, Clark didn’t consider about what kind of consequence SHE suffered because of his action.

All in all, assuming from his line “All of this made one thing very clear for me. Lois can never know who I really am.”, he seems clueless just how much potential danger he put his loved ones and not just only Lois in this event.

There are already people who know his secret (who are NOT super powered like Lana) but they’re doing fine with him around. Or maybe Clark/RBB can’t be in all places at once and he thinks he can’t afford to add one more person to his “always watch over & save” list? The thing with Lois though, is that she constantly put herself in extremely dangerous situations anyway with or without knowing his secret and Clark must be aware of that by now given thier history. JMO


Lois showed us in Infamous...she could handle knowing CK's the RBB......but... the problem for Clark is.....Linda Lake & Lex ...know hes the RBB.. ..and if...either one of them..wanted to get to him...all they have to do..is hurt Lois...

They might hurt Lois in order to get him but it’s nothing to do with her knowing his secret, imo. How many times he had to save Chloe and Lana’s lives before they knew his secret? It’s not about knowing his secret that put them in danger, but being close to him does. And Lois is already one of those and someone obviously he really cares about. If some bad guys tries to figure out who RBB is? They go after Lois anyway b/c they assume she probably knows who he is since she is very often saved by him even though, in fact she doesn’t know. And if Lex or any other villain target Lois in order to get him, again, it’s not because whether or not she knows his secret but because she is someone close to him, especially when these villains know his secret already…….. like Lex and Linda Lake. YMMV

Side note: Clark learned in Bloodline that NOT knowing his secret put Lois in danger. So, you see? To me there’s no logical reason, nor consistent story-telling behind his decision here. I think it’s a bad writing but maybe for these writers it’s a *epic conflict!*. The ironic thing is these two episodes were written by the same writer. geez


Blame it on the mythos

I wish I could, Deedee. I really wish.

If you mean “Mythos is already bad, so deal with it.”, then I can’t argue with you there. lol But if you mean TPTB chose this path because of the triangle for two? Then I still can’t blame for the Mythos simply because I can’t find the version where Clark and Lois are very good friends before Clark fallen love with her.

In SV verse, they slowly develop their friendship in a quite fun way (at least for me) from the point where they can’t stand each other, to they can tolerate one another and to finally they’re good friends step-by-step. But now Lois has fallen love with him and all of sudden their relationship turn into Clana 2.0 (angst end scene with pop balade) or with our luck we get pre-Crisis *very-dismissive-to-Clark* Lois? Well, I hope not.

Their light hearted banter was the lifeline for me while I had to sit thorugh the infamous never-ending Clana angst throughout the series, so I really hope my favorite couple won’t head for the same path. I’d say, drop Clois completely and keep their banter and friendship alive! *hoping*

I know I might be jumping the gun here since I only watched one episode post Power-arc. But I’m already worried by the glimpse of what is to come from this episode. I hope TPTB will prove me wrong. :\


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Mr.Magic
03-16-2009, 05:56 AM
Have any of you noticed that Clark never tells others his secret? He never tells anyone his secret. He is always found out. Pete found out. Chloe found out. And so did Lana. And I suspect that is what will happen to Lois. Unless she turns out to be the first one he actually tells.

Not true. He told Pete. Yes, he was kinda in a pickle, but he could have opted not to tell.

What happened to Pete was the reason he didn't tell anyone else.

SupermanRox
03-16-2009, 06:10 AM
I think its more about protecting Lois then anything.
He failed to mention that he never really willingly told Chloe or Lana his secret. They both just kind of found out. If it was up to him...neither of them would know. He thinks its just too much of a burden for people to take on...and he doesnt want that for Lois.

She thought the fact that he woudlnt tell her meant he didnt care....and Clark just wanted her to know its quite the opposite. At this point...he cares too much to "do that to her." (even though we all know she could handle it...and would want to handle it).

But I've got to respect Clark for trying to lay off relationships and figure things out for himself.

I think you all have good points especially this one.

Alania
03-16-2009, 08:19 AM
What is he supposed to say, when EDLo is whining to him about wanting to be "special"?

Clark is of course going to tell her what she wants to hear. Most men do that, unless they are a complete douchebag.

Sadly, you're completely right. She knows she's the least important girl in Clark's life right now and yet, she's in love with him. That's weaking her and it kills me that they weaken Lois by all this love she has for Clark. I know she's never felt that before, it's sneaking up on her big time, but whine?! That's not Lois Lane.

melissan02
03-16-2009, 09:00 AM
Sadly, you're completely right. She knows she's the least important girl in Clark's life right now and yet, she's in love with him. That's weaking her and it kills me that they weaken Lois by all this love she has for Clark. I know she's never felt that before, it's sneaking up on her big time, but whine?! That's not Lois Lane.

You're exactly right, Alania! This is what bothers me most. Even now that Lois will try to push Clark aside and pursue the RBB, we (the audience) will see a weak, pining Lois in her alone moments, and that's just not how Lois rolls!:( Lois Lane is no whiner! This is what I meant about the road TPTB are taking this...there's nothing beautiful about it.:rolleyes: Nope, it's too heavy...angsty. Reminds me of the Clana relationship. :rolleyes:

myankskent
03-16-2009, 09:19 AM
You're exactly right, Alania! This is what bothers me most. Even now that Lois will try to push Clark aside and pursue the RBB, we (the audience) will see a weak, pining Lois in her alone moments, and that's just not how Lois rolls!:( Lois Lane is no whiner! This is what I meant about the road TPTB are taking this...there's nothing beautiful about it.:rolleyes: Nope, it's too heavy...angsty. Reminds me of the Clana relationship. :rolleyes:

I can appreciate the fact that TPTB want to make Lois look vulnerable, since that is not something that we see from her all that often, but this is kind of overkill. I still have my doubts that Lois will just forget about Clark and concentrate on the red/blue blur. In order for that to happen, the red/blue blur has to actually become a major storyline on this show, at least in the episodes that Lois is in. Sadly, I don't see that happening, which is why I think that we will see more Clois than Lois/RBB.

ginevrakent
03-16-2009, 09:56 AM
I can appreciate the fact that TPTB want to make Lois look vulnerable, since that is not something that we see from her all that often, but this is kind of overkill. I still have my doubts that Lois will just forget about Clark and concentrate on the red/blue blur. In order for that to happen, the red/blue blur has to actually become a major storyline on this show, at least in the episodes that Lois is in. Sadly, I don't see that happening, which is why I think that we will see more Clois than Lois/RBB.

If I recall, there were many times on LnC where we would see THLois act strong and indifferent in public, but then we would see her home alone crying into a tub of rocky road ice cream.

Alania
03-16-2009, 10:19 AM
If I recall, there were many times on LnC where we would see THLois act strong and indifferent in public, but then we would see her home alone crying into a tub of rocky road ice cream.


That is perfectly ok for her, finding ways to drown her pain in her lonely moments; THLois Lane did that quite a few times and EDLois did that in the end of Siren, but there's a difference between giving yourself in to your broken heart, let the tears roll down and whine; that speech she gave in Infamous looked more like it was coming from a low self esteem issue: she thinks she's not special, she thinks she doesn't stand out. Where did that come from? She's always been full of herself, confident and, like Clark says, stuck up! And she should feel this way, cause she's all of those things! I don't mind seeing her locking inside the DP's bathroom to cry, i don't mind seeing her with a tub of ice-cream, alone, at night, i don't mind seeing her crying at the caffee cause she was stood up; all those things show us this love she's feeling throws her off balance, is nothing like she's ever felt before, is strong and likely to last forever, but i do mind speeches like the one from Infamous.

ginevrakent
03-16-2009, 10:24 AM
That is perfectly ok for her, finding ways to drown her pain in her lonely moments; THLois Lane did that quite a few times and EDLois did that in the end of Siren, but there's a difference between giving yourself in to your broken heart, let the tears roll down and whine; that speech she gave in Infamous looked more like it was coming from a low self esteem issue: she thinks she's not special, she thinks she doesn't stand out. Where did that come from? She's always been full of herself, confident and, like Clark says, stuck up! And she should feel this way, cause she's all of those things! I don't mind seeing her locking inside the DP's bathroom to cry, i don't mind seeing her with a tub of ice-cream, alone, at night, i don't mind seeing her crying at the caffee cause she was stood up; all those things show us this love she's feeling throws her off balance, is nothing like she's ever felt before, is strong and likely to last forever, but i do mind speeches like the one from Infamous.

It was her last chance to convince Clark to stay and fight. She knew she would never say those things once the timeline was restored and she wanted him to know that she could handle the hero thing. Maybe it was a little too emotional for our hard as nails Lois Lane, but I don't think Clark would have let us in one the secret that the thinks Lois is special if she didn't share her heart with him like she did.

melissan02
03-16-2009, 11:09 AM
I can appreciate the fact that TPTB want to make Lois look vulnerable, since that is not something that we see from her all that often, but this is kind of overkill. I still have my doubts that Lois will just forget about Clark and concentrate on the red/blue blur. In order for that to happen, the red/blue blur has to actually become a major storyline on this show, at least in the episodes that Lois is in. Sadly, I don't see that happening, which is why I think that we will see more Clois than Lois/RBB.

I think you're right in a sense, but I disagree, as I think we'll certainly see more of Lois/RBB than we'll get good Clois moments. That's just my specualtion, as it seems TPTB are settins things up this way given the last scene in Infamous and spoilers.
My biggest complaint is that the Lois and Clark moments will be angsty, but the Lois/RBB moments will be funny/romantic. Not exactly what I wanted.:\ I think this is the only way TPTB can do Clois, without really doing Clois...make sense?:\
*sighs*

Alania
03-16-2009, 11:13 AM
It was her last chance to convince Clark to stay and fight. She knew she would never say those things once the timeline was restored and she wanted him to know that she could handle the hero thing. Maybe it was a little too emotional for our hard as nails Lois Lane, but I don't think Clark would have let us in one the secret that the thinks Lois is special if she didn't share her heart with him like she did.

And once again it didn't work, Libby, Clark's conclusion is that she can never know his secret. Of course, she exposed himself to the world, all went crazy, she got in danger, his logical thinking is: she can never know in order to be safe. But i don't think that will last much in SV; if they have Lois and Clark kissing without forgetting, she will figure him out. Unless the writers miss "Hydro" detail.

During that barn scene, when Lois was getting too very emotional, i was like: "pleeeaase, somebody stop that". I was seeing Lois going in for a kiss all over again! Thank God it didn't happen! And, at the coffee shop scene, i sobbed like an idiot. You are right, she was playing with all her cards to convince Clark, but the "you're special" line was terrible, that is no excuse, he was just saying what she wanted to hear. She was sharing all her love and heart and still he acted "yeah, ok" and just continued her line of thinking. They could have handled it better. If he had said: "because u mean a lot to me" would have sounded way better!

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I think we'll certainly see more of Lois/RBB than we'll get good Clois moments. My biggest complaint is that the Lois and Clark moments will be angsty, but the Lois/RBB moments will be funny/romantic. *sighs*

I agree, Mel!! can't wait to see Clark fighting over Lois with himself!!!!!!!:lol: RBB wil keep our Lois very busy!!!!!!

myankskent
03-16-2009, 11:17 AM
I think you're right in a sense, but I disagree, as I think we'll certainly see more of Lois/RBB than we'll get good Clois moments. That's just my specualtion, as it seems TPTB are settins things up this way given the last scene in Infamous and spoilers.


Outside of Stiletto, there really aren't any spoilers about Lois and the red/blue blur. We know that there will be a Clois scene at the end of "Hex" and in the finale, there is apparently going to be something rather significant that will be happening with Clois.

That aside, I need to see more of a concentration on the red/blue blur storyline. With the way this season is shaping up, it looks like Doomsday will dominate the rest of the way.

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 11:20 AM
FIRST OF THANKS TO EVERY BODY WHO ANSWERED MY POST BECAUSE YOUR RESPONSES REALLY HELPED ME UNDER STAND CLARK AND HIS CRYPOTIC MESSAGES


Maybe this helps. Technically, I believe Clark did not say Lois IS SPECIAL, but something a little different. He won't tell her BECAUSE SHE IS SPECIAL. The word "because" changes the whole meaning. In his mind, it is because she is special to him that he feels he cannot tell her. He has always felt that everytime someone finds out, their life gets more difficult, dangerous or just weird. In his mind he feels he must do this to protect her. Kind of like the old steroetype where the hero decides what is best for the girl, without letting her make up her own mind. Old fashioned chivalry.
IMO kind of sexist, but it makes for interesting TV.

To put it in another way, a person who is very sick may refuse to get in a relationship with someone they really love, because they don't want that person to mourn. Realistically, that person will mourn anyway, but from the sick person's perspective they think they are sparing the loved one additional pain.

Obviously Clark is not sick, and that was just an analogy. I think in his mind, he is doing what he thinks is best for Lois, fogetting that Lois is the one who must decide what is best for her.

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:DTHANK U SO MUCH BECAUSE I WAS ON STUPID MODE FOR A SECOND! THIS HELPS ME OUT A LOT AND NOW FUTHER LETS ME KNOW CLARK IS A JACKASS! HE WANTS A GIRL WHO IS PASSIVE AND NOT STRONG HE HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO CONTROL LOIS LIKE LANA OR CHLOE AND NOW THAT HE HAS SOMETHING HE WILL RUN LIKE THE WIND WITH IT! I DONT THINK HE SHOULD LEAD HER ON BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH SKANKLANA BUT BE A MAN AND LET HER DOWN IN PERSON NOT BE ALL STALKER TYPE AND PINE FOR HER AT AT DISTANCE!:( HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEAK IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY! LOIS PLEASE GET BACK WITH OLIE A REAL MAN AND LET HIM GO! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK I WOULD BE OK IF CLOIS WAS NOT TOGETHER! I FEEL LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW MAYBE AFTER HEX I MIGHT CHANGE MY MIND! IF I HAD A CHOICE OF HIM BEING MY SUPERMAN I GUESS I WOULD LET THE WORLD BURN IN HELL FIRST!:mad:

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't know, i'm as confused as you, but one thing i know: "you're special" is not an excuse, it's far from it!!! To me, that was as lame as "Lois is so Lois". How come her being special is a reason not to tell his secret?! Maybe if he said: "I can't put u in danger, Lois, u mean a lot to me" would have sounded better. I'm guessing she's gonna figure him out when she kisses him, like Mary Jane in Spiderman movie. Since, according to her in Hydro, it's the best kiss she's ever had, she will probably remember. That if the writers don't miss this detail.



He's had that chance before; a little in "Blank", a lot in Crimson and Apocalypse and a lot now, Infamous. All of those times, he's seen she reacts positively, doesn't take it as a big deal, she's either amazed or higly attracted. Even Kara knows she can handle, what else does he need? All those years together, he should have known she doesn't care about ordinary things, she cares and like the extraordinary, where Clark fits. That's why she's a front page newspaper journalist, she always wants the extraordinary scoops.
But, that's Superman thing, he never tells his secret to anyone, people find out and i suspect it will be no different with Lois.


I TOTALLY AGREE ALANIA IF SOMEONE IS SPECIAL YOU LET THEM IN ON YOUR FEARS NOT PUSH THEM AWAY! GOD CLARK SWITCHES MORE THAN PRESIDENT BUSHES ANSWERS ON HOW HE HANDLED THE CRISIS OF THE WAR! THE DUMMY!!!!!!!!:mad:


yEAH HE COUYLD HAVE TOLD HER IN BLANK BUT ONCE A PUNK ALAWAYS ONE I GUESS SHE CAN HANDLE IT SHE HAS SHOWN SHE CAN BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE SHOW HE JUST IS BEING TO LAZY TO DEAL WITH THE EMOTIONS OF WHAT COMES WITH LOIS THEREFORE HE DOES NOT DESERVE HER AND HE WILL ONLY REALIZE WHAT SHE MEANS TO HIM WHEN THEY (I HOPE ) PAIR HER UP WITH ANOTHER MAN! tHEN WE WILL BE WATCHING CLANA 3.0 AGAIN! CHIMMY IS 2.0!:rotfl:

Alania
03-16-2009, 11:41 AM
:DTHANK U SO MUCH BECAUSE I WAS ON STUPID MODE FOR A SECOND! THIS HELPS ME OUT A LOT AND NOW FUTHER LETS ME KNOW CLARK IS A JACKASS! HE WANTS A GIRL WHO IS PASSIVE AND NOT STRONG HE HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO CONTROL LOIS LIKE LANA OR CHLOE AND NOW THAT HE HAS SOMETHING HE WILL RUN LIKE THE WIND WITH IT! I DONT THINK HE SHOULD LEAD HER ON BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH SKANKLANA BUT BE A MAN AND LET HER DOWN IN PERSON NOT BE ALL STALKER TYPE AND PINE FOR HER AT AT DISTANCE!:( HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEAK IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY! LOIS PLEASE GET BACK WITH OLIE A REAL MAN AND LET HIM GO! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK I WOULD BE OK IF CLOIS WAS NOT TOGETHER! I FEEL LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW MAYBE AFTER HEX I MIGHT CHANGE MY MIND! IF I HAD A CHOICE OF HIM BEING MY SUPERMAN I GUESS I WOULD LET THE WORLD BURN IN HELL FIRST!:mad:

Wow, wow, Doodie! Stop right there! :p First of, Lois belongs to Clark and only Clark, Oliver is out of the picture. Second, Clark is not a jackass, let alone weak, he just haven't recovered from his break-up. He's full of doubts, he's keeping distance from Lois and that's all good, cause the last thing we wanted was for Lois to be rebound or have that lightswitch. He can't possibly know what he feels for Lois at this moment because his love for Lana was still very alive inside of him. That's writer's fault, not Clark's. The only two things i disapprove is standing her up and "you're special".

I don't think Clark ever controlled Lana, she's has always done things her way, she just doesn't have the same bossy and lively spirit as Lois. And, with Lois's return, the hero is back, it has always been like that, won't change. But, one thing i agree with you: i didn't want Clois being addressed this season after P/R trashy combo, at the very most, have some Clois in the season finale to continue in season 9, but spoilers says otherwise.

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 11:43 AM
What does the spOLIERS say will erica not be in season 9 because bye bye smallville!

Alania
03-16-2009, 11:49 AM
What does the spOLIERS say will erica not be in season 9 because bye bye smallville!


spoilers says romantic moment in Hex, romantic moment in Stiletto, romantic, apparently a blow mind, moment in season finale.. As for ED, impossible to know, it's a question mark. Just hope they be smart enough to put this woman in every single episode with good storylines, a lot of action and a lot of clois! :D

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 11:51 AM
I totally agree she is the best actress imho on this show! She should get treated like the diomand she is !

SupesComicFan
03-16-2009, 12:08 PM
I have been thinking about this. Why does Clark say Lois is special? After the Clana arc, I don't really buy it. If I want to stick my brain in a blender and forget Clana happened, it SORT OF makes sense, but not really. It is "because she is special" that he won't tell her his secret again.

The only thing I can take from this is that he doesn't like what knowing the secret has done to the people that know. Let's take Chloe and Lana.

Lana, well, she went completely nuts and had a skinsuit made of Clark's DNA put on and then got Kryptonite infected. K, that doesn't sound too good.

Chloe has gotten fired, beat up, infected by Brainiac, etc all because she knows his secret, and then some. He tried to erase her knowing the secret earlier in the season.

So, leaving out romance and focusing on the friendship (Clark does not seem ready to go there romantically with Lois), knowing the secret has NEVER, in Clark's experience, changed anyone for the better. Sure, Lois seemed to handle it well (she didn't try to become an "equal" like Lana does or a "sidekick" like Chloe does, she simply went on with her work, which is what LOIS DOES, in the future), but she still got attacked by the FBI, which isn't so good. No good has ever, ever come from knowing Clark's secret. So, he wants to keep her safe, because she is special. I don't know if he meant special in "that" way. If one knows where Clark ends up, it is easy to say Lois can handle it, but CLARK doesn't know that. Clark only knows that when people know his secret, it isn't good, and that is why he erases time.

Also, I think he went and got Lois because if the time travel thing didn't work, she would still be in danger. Very Superman-y thing to do. I also like that Clark told Chloe to skip town, but zipped Lois to the barn with him, like he wanted to keep her close. I still don't think he meant special as in romantically special. And I am a mythos purist, as much as one can be in the SV world, and therefore I Clois.

Diego*Chloe
03-16-2009, 12:14 PM
So Lois is the new Lana(S1-6) ?????

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 12:15 PM
^ please dont jinxs us im getting scared!

ginevrakent
03-16-2009, 12:22 PM
I have been thinking about this. Why does Clark say Lois is special? After the Clana arc, I don't really buy it. If I want to stick my brain in a blender and forget Clana happened, it SORT OF makes sense, but not really. It is "because she is special" that he won't tell her his secret again.

The only thing I can take from this is that he doesn't like what knowing the secret has done to the people that know. Let's take Chloe and Lana.

Lana, well, she went completely nuts and had a skinsuit made of Clark's DNA put on and then got Kryptonite infected. K, that doesn't sound too good.

Chloe has gotten fired, beat up, infected by Brainiac, etc all because she knows his secret, and then some. He tried to erase her knowing the secret earlier in the season.

So, leaving out romance and focusing on the friendship (Clark does not seem ready to go there romantically with Lois), knowing the secret has NEVER, in Clark's experience, changed anyone for the better. Sure, Lois seemed to handle it well (she didn't try to become an "equal" like Lana does or a "sidekick" like Chloe does, she simply went on with her work, which is what LOIS DOES, in the future), but she still got attacked by the FBI, which isn't so good. No good has ever, ever come from knowing Clark's secret. So, he wants to keep her safe, because she is special. I don't know if he meant special in "that" way. If one knows where Clark ends up, it is easy to say Lois can handle it, but CLARK doesn't know that. Clark only knows that when people know his secret, it isn't good, and that is why he erases time.

Also, I think he went and got Lois because if the time travel thing didn't work, she would still be in danger. Very Superman-y thing to do. I also like that Clark told Chloe to skip town, but zipped Lois to the barn with him, like he wanted to keep her close. I still don't think he meant special as in romantically special. And I am a mythos purist, as much as one can be in the SV world, and therefore I Clois.

I agree with you, but also think there is another way of looking at the "special" line. Let's say that Clark used the word in the way Lois was using the word. To Lois, special seems to mean something close to love. She was trying to help Clark understand this, and she thought he didn't get it. When he uses the word "special" it could suggest that he understood her meaning and felt at least something close to what she felt. This is just one explanation, and I don't know if I buy it myself. It is only another way to look at the scene.

Sunny8
03-16-2009, 12:49 PM
Unfortunately, Clois on Smallville will always be compared to past relationships that we have seen with Clark, Clana being the biggest one.


I only compare Clana with Clois regarding how much better a relationship Clois is. It is better, though only if TPTB don't mess it up. Otherwise, there is no comparison. Clark was a boy and acted like a boy when he was with Lana. With Lois he is a man or he was in the beginning of season 8. If TPTB don't change Lois and try to make Clois dramatic like they made Clana I'll be happy.

Crouching Lurker
03-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Why say it in the first place then? It's not like she remembered any of their conversation afterwards. He didn't have to say it just as he didn't have to save her before that... but he chose to do it anyway. I think the writers were trying to show us that Clark is starting to have feelings for her too. Lois has no memory of that, but Clark does... and he'll have to come to terms with his feelings sooner than he may think.

And not only that, he didn't have to show up at the airport to pick her up the second time. He could have just repeated his steps if he really didn't care. But he made her a priority, because she's special to him.

He also showed up to the coffee house. Even though it was painful for any Lois or Clois fan to watch him just standing there not going over. He wanted to be with her or he wouldn't have been there. He could have sent a text from anywhere, but he didn't. He was there with her, if only in spirit. He knew he made a choice to protect her and he kept his resolve, even though it pained him and hurt Lois.

workshyslacker
03-16-2009, 02:28 PM
FIRST OF THANKS TO EVERY BODY WHO ANSWERED MY POST BECAUSE YOUR RESPONSES REALLY HELPED ME UNDER STAND CLARK AND HIS CRYPOTIC MESSAGES


And I thought women were complicated! :p

I need a Phd in psychology and a really comfy couch (!) just to understand Clark. :D

LoveHurts38
03-16-2009, 03:37 PM
So Lois is the new Lana(S1-6) ?????

Bite your tongue Diego:lol:

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Also, I think he went and got Lois because if the time travel thing didn't work, she would still be in danger. Very Superman-y thing to do. I also like that Clark told Chloe to skip town, but zipped Lois to the barn with him, like he wanted to keep her close. I still don't think he meant special as in romantically special. And I am a mythos purist, as much as one can be in the SV world, and therefore I Clois.

I noticed that too..because Chloe was telling Clark to leave togather he didn't he went to look for Lois and brought her with him.

Supsfan
03-16-2009, 04:37 PM
So Lois is the new Lana(S1-6) ?????

Looking at spoilers for the rest of the season Chloe looks like the new Lana in terms of her wonderful romantic plots I could care less about(such as Lana and Jason or the Clexana triangle)

doodie8808
03-16-2009, 04:40 PM
and i thought women were complicated! :p

i need a phd in psychology and a really comfy couch (!) just to understand clark. :d


he talks in circles and still has nothing to say its like listing to dead air i want to slap the writers sometimes!:d

workshyslacker
03-16-2009, 04:50 PM
he talks in circles and still has nothing to say its like listing to dead air i want to slap the writers sometimes!:d

Stand in line! ;)

*hands over wet fish*

herolee10
03-16-2009, 04:52 PM
well when has Clark ever approach the manners of the heart correctly? lol

I believe as well, that what Clark meant with that line, was that because Lois is special to him, he doesn't want to risk anything bad happening to her because of his secret.

It's not the matter of if she'll be able to handle that secret. Clark already knows on how she would react to it, and he enjoys the fact that Lois opened up to him so warmly about it. However, it's the dangers that comes with knowing his secret that he's afraid of.

Like Clark said, all that have known his secret have either left or died. Like I said in other posts, if Clark had a choice, he would have chosen that Lana or Chloe wouldn't know either because he's seen how their lives were affected because of it. So that's why Clark tries his best to make sure that no one else would find out his secret.

I mean it's not like he "doesn't want to tell her"...to him it's because "he can't tell her". Sure he was able to save her from the FEDs, but Clark knows that he can't always be there, and there'll always be a time when he's not with her physically where the government or someone else can get to her, and what then?

Clark honestly doesn't want to lose Lois, nor give her the burden and troubles that come with it. She's also special to him, because even without knowing his secret, they were still very close to each other, and like Clark said, there are times when he feels that Lois knows him better then anyone else.

tj_powers
03-16-2009, 06:24 PM
I liked it when Clark said "it's because you are special" Clark keeps thinking those who knows his secrets are in harms way which was never false in the first place. That just shows how much he also likes Lois even if he doesnt show it

keddy22
03-16-2009, 10:17 PM
Because this show loves drama(hiding secrets) and keeping things as ambigious as possible("because you're special") so all fans can fanwank to suit there needs.

LOL fanwank!! i haven't heard of that one! :)

Diego*Chloe
03-16-2009, 10:34 PM
Looking at spoilers for the rest of the season Chloe looks like the new Lana in terms of her wonderful romantic plots I could care less about(such as Lana and Jason or the Clexana triangle)


What does Chloe have to do with all of this?????

I wasnt trying to be mean or something I was just saying tha Lois seems to be the new Lana in that aspect I mean Lana was special for like 6 years :rolleyes: