The Legion Ring...

[MrZeppo]

I admit, I am surprised Clark was able to use the ring to travel through time. I didn't expect Rokk to give Clark a Legion Ring that could travel to anywhere but to them. Looks like they placed a lot of trust in his hands. Makes sense I suppose, he is their hero.

In the end I will admit I am a little sad to see the Legion Ring go boom. I liked it, I liked knowing Clark had it. If anything but a momento. And also it limits chances of him traveling to the future to see the Legion again. I understand why he destroyed it because if it got into the wrong hands it could unravel time as we know it. And like Clark said, it is a lot of responsibility.

Hopefully we see the Legion again one day and he gets a replacement. ;)

[Niad]

didint they design the ring just for him to use it no one eles?

[HornFan02]

At the end of legion, they said they reprogrammed it for time travel only, no flights. I had to rewatch it. I originally thought he could only travel to the year 31st century, but I was wrong

[clois-destiny-forever]

Yeah, that threw me off at first, too.

[Lilah]

I knew all along lol. I just wish he hadn't destroyed it.

[alma]

I wish he hadn't destroyed it either. What was the point of the ring? was it only so they could use it for one episode.?

[eas]

I admit, I am surprised Clark was able to use the ring to travel through time. I didn't expect Rokk to give Clark a Legion Ring that could travel to anywhere but to them. Looks like they placed a lot of trust in his hands. Makes sense I suppose, he is their hero.

In the end I will admit I am a little sad to see the Legion Ring go boom. I liked it, I liked knowing Clark had it. If anything but a momento. And also it limits chances of him traveling to the future to see the Legion again. I understand why he destroyed it because if it got into the wrong hands it could unravel time as we know it. And like Clark said, it is a lot of responsibility.

Hopefully we see the Legion again one day and he gets a replacement. ;)


Really? I called time travel as soon as the first spoilers for this episode came out. At the time, "Legion" hadn't even aired and I spec'd that the LOSH would give Clark some sort of gift that would allow him to time travel & un-do the events in "Infamous".

It is a lot of responsibilty, but they revere him. So if there is anyone they think can handle it, it's their idol.

I think Clark lived up to that idea they have of him, because he was strong enough to destry the ring once he saw that people like Lake could get their hands on it. That takes a strong man.

It was, in fact, one of the only times I liked Clark in this episode. When he said he destroyed the ring.

[Lilah]

I wish he hadn't destroyed it either. What was the point of the ring? was it only so they could use it for one episode.?

Duh. And we were supposed to remember the ring from the beginning of the episode.

[doomvskal86]

Yeah just one ep with the legion ring that sucks

[Supsfan]

Yeah just one ep with the legion ring that sucks

Well at least we can fanwank he had an easy solution to the whole Lana issue in Requiem, he was just to lazy to use it then. :)

[0Raiser]

Just had to put on the ring then destroy it cuz he don't like rings :mad:

[Theshadow129x]

i can understand his feelings about time being controlled with the ring but i dont think he needed to destroy it. it could have just been put away in the fortress or something...not destroyed.

[0Raiser]

well the other stupid thing was Clark had to put it on while Luis almost revealed the biggest secret ever

[Reuben]

Linda made it pretty clear why he had to destroy the ring and besides the show would get boring if he made a mistake and just used the ring again.

[targis]

He shouldn't have destroyed it. The ring would have been a very helpful tool when fighting DD.

He could have just left it on. That way nobody else could have taken it.

[Dyanara]

Destroying it was stupid! So bad guys want it, keep it from them! Don't destroy it!

[Harrison_Bergeron]

How does the ring work? Wouldn't Clark going back in time to change things have created two Clarks? Seems like they glossed over the intricacies and paradoxes of time travel for a clean end.

Whatever, cool episode.

[xrayvision]

I posted a thread about the potential of the Legion ring:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122414

I'm hoping Clark lied to Chloe about destroying the ring & has it hidden in the FOS to prevent giving her any ideas to use the ring or getting taken hostage by Doomsday or someone else to retrieve the ring in exchange for her life.

Does anyone think there's a chance that it's not destroyed?

[ram711]

It would have been nice for him to use the ring as a way to get to the future, but as it stands, the ring kind of had to go away, because it's nothing more than a deus ex machina. If Chloe dies, he can use the ring to go back and save. If Lois dies, he can use the ring. It allows him to fix anything, which would be kind of stupid. Too bad he didn't use it to go back and stop Lana from getting superpowers.

[Niad]

rofl he should of done that in the first place....

[xrayvision]

I want the ring to be used for 3 more things:

1. Meeting Jor-El in the 60's to learn how to repair the FOS using his help.

2. Meeting Kem-El in the 1500's after being killed by Doomsday and being sent back to the past when Kem-El was on Earth by Jor-El to be revived with the Eradicator (see my linked thread for all the details & benefits of doing this).

3. Preventing Lana from getting powers.

After these 3 things are done, I would love for the ring to be destroyed or sent to the future with Chloe (perhaps to save her) or given back to the Legion.

[e-µ-i]

I hope he did destroy the ring. Because then, when he'll be flying, at least that won't be because of the ring ! ;)

[xrayvision]

^^I don't understand how the ring would be mistaken to make him fly.

I think there's a lot of potential to destroy the ring yet. I would love to see him meet Jor-El and Kem-El before the series ends.

[roger767]

Clark used the ring to go to the past. Having the result that there are 2 rings now. One from the future and the one in the past that's still hidden in the barn in the toolbox.
Also this would mean that there are 2 Clarks running around, but considering the fact that the writers didn't address this, because they cant write good time travel stories just look at the previous episodes involving time travel.
I think the ring is destroyed. And the only way for Clark to use time travel is by learning to fly.

[FlashInSV]

I'm not sure...I would have liked him to keep the ring. I know I would have!! LOL

[Krypton935]

I think its destroyed. If it wasn't than we could use it for everything and that would be overkill.

[dhyane]

now,why would he destroy the one thing that is veryyyyyy important to him in the first place??

LOSH : clark,where's the ring??

Clark : i destroyed it...(proudly)

LOSH : whhhhaaaat?? hmmm...nevermind,here's another one..make sure you KEEP this one..

Clark : wow..how many of these do you guys have?

LOSH : alottttt..we have a factory that churnes millions of these..here,give one to chloe,davis,lois and lana..let's have some fun..winner gets to choose a future or past of his/her choice...


the butterly effect..change the smallest thing in the past,and the whole future changes drastically..uh huh,something's big going to happen...

[dhyane]

well,if clark destroyed the ring,how would he contact the LOSH now? butterfly effect-a change in the past as small as a bacteria, would alter the future drastically..two clarks,two worlds,history's changed..history books in the 31st century would have to be re-written...now maybe chloe's name can be added as well..:)

[davidbrenton]

My co-worker said that they swapped the ring from the comics (Which is a flight ring) with the time travel bubble. They time travel via a bubble in the comics and give the flight rings to people who need help flying.

Also, Brainiac 5 made the rings, so he is saying they played with the continuity there.

I think he destroyed the ring so that Smallville is still dier. In that, everytime someone dies, he can't just reverse time to stop them....eh, hem, season finale.

[Estro-gen X]

Well the whole episode was illogical. TIME TRAVEL DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. He's changed the past to the point he doesn't have to go to the past to begin with. Its a paradox. I didn't think Cosmic Boy was that dumb to allow backwards time travel. THIS dumbassery is why they need Brainiac 5. In the comics superman and supergirl never used time bubbles, like the end of season 7 a 'super' person can travel in time from wormholes/space/thigamjigs.

[Estro-gen X]

I'd love Legion to return and be totally offended they destroyed their gift. Well not Cos or LL but others on the team

[Clois4eva89]

I hope he did destroy the ring. Because then, when he'll be flying, at least that won't be because of the ring ! ;)

It was said back in Legion that Rokk only set it for time travel so Clark will have to learn. How to fly on his own without the ring I think Clark told the truth about destroying the ring. He heard how Linda Lake said she could use the ring for her own personal gain. Clark saw that the ring was more of a problem causer than a problem solver. Put time travel into the wrong hands and it could destory the entire world. So I hope Clark did destroy the ring besides this is suppost to be Clark's journey to becoming Superman. Not a revamped version of Back to the Future.

[costas22]

now,why would he destroy the one thing that is veryyyyyy important to him in the first place??



I think that he did the right thing.Aside from the fact that time travels come at a price,he has to stop relying on second chances.He got a cop out yesterday but from here on he will have to take responsibility for his decisions.That was sort of Supermanly.

[Timester]

Any destroyed time-machine is a good thing. No excuses.

[ChronX4]

It would have been nice if he could have been shown saving that one guy that was mentioned on the news moments before the whole Linda Lake conference.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

I think that destroying the ring was good for the show, it is like on Heroes how they had to constantly come up with ways of depowering Peter and Hiro because their powers were too great for the obstacles in the show. With the ring in play on SV every episode would have at least one instance of, "Why didn't he just go back 5 minutes and change that?"

[EmeraldArcherJustice]

How does the ring work? Wouldn't Clark going back in time to change things have created two Clarks? Seems like they glossed over the intricacies and paradoxes of time travel for a clean end.

Whatever, cool episode.


I thought the same thing, like, did LOSH give him a quick crash course in the fundamentals of Legion Ring Time Travel? Or did he just think. "2 days earlier." in his head when he slipped it on??

[madcatlady]

It would have been nice if he could have been shown saving that one guy that was mentioned on the news moments before the whole Linda Lake conference.


I was hoping for that too!

[oldblackmagick]

what if clark didn't destroy the ring and only said that he did. no one will look for something that is destroyed...but if they knew he hid it someplace else...i was loling at clark not using the ring to save lana from being kryptofried or lex from exploding but oh well. they left the show so lets get on with it:p

[xrayvision]

what if clark didn't destroy the ring and only said that he did. no one will look for something that is destroyed...but if they knew he hid it someplace else...i was loling at clark not using the ring to save lana from being kryptofried or lex from exploding but oh well. they left the show so lets get on with it:p

Yeah, I made a thread about this:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122414

[e-µ-i]

what if clark didn't destroy the ring and only said that he did. no one will look for something that is destroyed...but if they knew he hid it someplace else...i was loling at clark not using the ring to save lana from being kryptofried or lex from exploding but oh well. they left the show so lets get on with it:p

You actually mean Lex is dead ?

Btw, yeah, Rokk did set up the ring for time travel only. Given the circumstances (that Clark is Kryptonian, time traveler that used the ring), maybe the ring simply ''switched'' 2 Clarks into one, or simply put Clark's current state of mind into his body from the past. There are thousands of explanations that writers could adress to if they wanted to, but it doesn't really matter. Clark is The One and no rules apply to him :cool:

[Niad]

lex is not dead lex took off the k ring before the truck exploded so they would think there was nothing left of him

[xrayvision]

Lex is Oliver. I'm pretty sure this will be the case. If it turns out not to be the case and if he is really dead, then I can see a scene where Clark goes back to bring Lex back in a way he doesn't know his secret---which will show that Clark is so heroic that he will even go and save the life of his worst enemy. But somehow I don't think Lex is dead. I analyzed Ollie's actions after the explosion in Requiem and am pretty sure he is Lex.

[oldblackmagick]

well they made it seem like that was the case and until olli starts 1-showing up in a few eps that aren't justice league oriented 2-starts bwa-ha-ha-ing:p

[candor]

i dont think lex is ollie that would be kinda wierd and im not sure i would like that very much. i cant say i was a fan of the ring getting destroyed, but the legion can always come back and give him a new one.

[Iluvgreen]

I just don't know why he destroyed it! He might need it in case he makes some other mistake.....

[oldblackmagick]

which given clark's history...is very likely!!!

[gkl73]

See this is why it is SO STUPID to put time travel opportunities in TV shows like this. Because everyone and their mother knows that in real life, the first thing Clark would have done when Rokk handed him that ring is go back to the beginning of the show when s*** started hitting the fan... think about it. He could've gone back and saved Lana's parents from dying. He could have stopped his accident with Lex on the bridge so that Lex never "suspects" anything about him (in my opinion he should have trusted Lex at the beginning and told him, but that's a WHOLE 'nother story), he could have prevented his mother's miscarriage... the list just goes on and on and on. The point is, these TV shows exist in a real world where actors need contracts to be on the show, etc. and you can't just get Annette O'Toole, John Schnieder, and Michael Rosenbaum back on the show to play their old characters for stuff that would obviously need to happen if time travel existed... so just don't do time travel at all, your audience isn't that stupid.

And by the way, especially don't do it if you don't even know the difference between "Intrabody" time travel (as in the Butterfly Effect and what Clark obviously did in this episode) and "Vehicle" time travel (as in Back to the Future and what the Legion obviously did in that episode). There's definitely a lack of time travel consistency there.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Clark would not have gone back in time to fix all those things, he is smart and responsible, for him to have gone back and cheated like that would have been way out of character.

[Niad]

lex is ollie that dont make scene? lol

[xrayvision]

lex is ollie that dont make scene? lol

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119879

[boatsboston]

The ring was just too dangerous. Clark knows there are consequences for trying to fix things with time travel.

The Legion knew it was safe to give Clark the ring because there timeline did not encounter any problems because of it.

It's better to get rid of the ring now than have us question Clark why he isn't using the ring to prevent some tragedy.

[clois-destiny-forever]

SV probably just didn't think the audience would remember the ring if Clark held on to it for a long time. So he destroyed it rather than have the audience wondering why he just doesn't go back and fix bad stuff that happens. Makes things final again.

[SnowBird]

The ring is dangerous when it's used for time travel. Clark knows the consequences when he went back in time to change lana's death in S5. He took a chance just going back 2 days. It was a good decision to destroy it.

Now the ring is destroyed. The Fortress is damaged with Jor-El gone. To me this is setting up the Clark and Doomsday battle with no way out from the damage, injuries and deaths that are the result of this battle. in other words, Clark alone can not make changes to the outcome by using the ring or going to Jor-El for help.

[Var-Zol]

He should have used to the ring to go to the Legion's time and give it back to them. He could have then had the Legion send him back without the ring.

[zick]

it's a plot killer... if he had the ring he could always go back in time and fix things..

[Niad]

yeah but if he went back in time to fix things something eles will happen

[j-kent]

The only thing that gets me is that hasn't Clark learned that after seasons of barnyard thefts that that old toolbox isn't the best place to hide powerful objects? lol

[SnowBird]

The only thing that gets me is that hasn't Clark learned that after seasons of barnyard thefts that that old toolbox isn't the best place to hide powerful objects? lol

I see what you mean but the toolbox does bring back memories and those are worth something.