Are You Mad Clark stood Lois up?

[Clark-Lois]

Who all is mad that Clark stood Lois up? I am. I had my fingers crossed and was wishing extremely hard that he would go over.

[devilicus rebel]

I am SOO mad. I can't believe Clark chickened out after Lois gave him an opening. Loser.

[Candice]

He's insecure and PS3 are obviously stalling Clois.

[miks]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

[redeem147]

I like the UST. Cause boy, there was a lot of ST. :)

[melissan02]

Nope. I learned my lesson with this stinkin' show!!:mad: I'm not mad.
Lois deserves better!;) I've said that since "Bulletproof"!!
I know just where she can find it...and with whom!!!;)

[myankskent]

I'm mad at how everything went down. All it took was Clark to pick up Lois from the airport for her to be just fine with everything that happened and for some ridiculous reason TPTB actually had Lois ask Clark out for coffee. Are you kidding me after everything that happened previously?

[Var-Zol]

I was upset.

[unfocused]

I'm sad, not mad. It's just not meant to be this soon. He needs to accept his destiny before he can accept Lois.

[abbaspice1]

That is why his jaw tightened when Lois tested him back.

Yep he really is uninterested [sarcasm]

[celita]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

Yeah SOOOO not interested and he WENT to the date? righttttttt

[theotherJane]

I really don't care anymore.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm sad.
So sad, especially when Lois messaged her back, saying she could not make it, but she was there, and Clark was like... :(

[Vergon6]

If they were going to have her ask him out to coffee, he should have came. But it was really too soon for them to start doing that. They should have just had a talk at the farm or something.

[bigteep]

What a great episode I thought that it was, only to have it end with that stupid emotionally messed up Clark garbage. If it were Lana he would have run over there at super speed.

[miks]

But did he actually go?

[JLedge]

I was very mad and felt really sorry for Lois.

It's always heartbreaking when we see her sad and truly vulnerable because she's usually such a tough cookie.

[wmasoxfan]

The writers drive me crazy! He could've had coffee with her.....

[Vergon6]

I'm sad.
So sad, especially when Lois messaged her back, saying she could not make it, but she was there, and Clark was like... :(
She was being defensive, pretending it didn't bother her, and that's Lois for you.

[melissan02]

I'm sad, not mad. It's just not meant to be this soon. He needs to accept his destiny before he can accept Lois.

Exactly! Too soon! :D

[MJDSuperman]

they arent just gonna hand u what you want on a silver platter they are gonna play with you for a while im not mad i expected it

[od25star]

:(:(:(!! I was SO hoping for a kiss!!!
GOD on every other show everyone kisses everyone else, why can't they let THEM kiss!?!?!

[madcatlady]

I think he needs to give some time between the Lana nonsense, out of respect for Lois. He definitely didn't want to stand her up and definitely looked sad (and seemed more mature than he did during the Lana arc, I have to say.)

[Loisdragon]

No we got time we got time

[Vergon6]

But did he actually go?
He was standing across the street, texting her that he couldn't come.

[Supsfan]

I am mad that they making Clark look like a wuss again. It's just a fricken coffee

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm very disappointed! I said "what a wimp" in the live thread, and that's the first time I've ever said that about him in regards to Lois Lane!! Very disappointing!!

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He was standing across the street, texting her that he couldn't come.

Exactly!!:lol:

[mariagabriela]

PATHETIC. That's all I can say!

[kszonew]

It's a CW Network tv series, it's expected, you know to add relationship angst and all. Even though the person that said Clark needs to accept his destiny before Lois might be correct, I don't think the executives at the CW see it that way. They seen teens and young adults who want 'shipper angst and not good stories being told that can also involve, but not overinvolve romantic relationships.

[dru-zod2501]

That was terrible. I'm pretty pissed off... They weren't sharing deep intimate secrets it was just hanging with a friend, my god Clark get the stick out from betwixt thy buttcheeks and put on a pair of steel cajones!!

[LiLViLLiaN]

I am more sad then mad. I am sad for both of them.

Though, he didnt walk over to her. That last scene was amazing.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Nope not mad. I think it was pretty obvious Clark has some pretty deep feelings for Lois and doesn't know yet how to deal with them.

[spideyfan]

i was a little upset but i understand...poor both of them...

[O'Neill]

The writers have done a terrific job at turning Clark into a pansy...... He's not a hero anymore, but rather a coward who makes horrible decisions. Congrats to the writers. :rolleyes:

[cloisthelegendbegins]

I wish Lois hadn't invited him for coffee if I'm honest. It made her seem too forgiving - I'd far rather have had her with her walls up. The ending was SO SAD but as much for Clark as for Lois. He wouldn't even have been there if he wasn't interested. Instead you could almost feel him wavering before he sent that message. But I HATE that she sent the message back and he knows she was there.

Just very very sad.

At the same time, I still feel it would have been too soon after the whole Lana fiasco. I'd rather have it happen slowly. And there's the bonus that they won't give us seven years of this angst crap. Lois had better throw herself into her career and block him out now. She gave him a shot. HIS LOSS. And anything in the future would need to be AFTER he knows exactly what it is he wants.

[myankskent]

I'm just furious that Lois actually asked Clark out. Where's the anger over what happened before she left? As for Clark, it was just coffee so I don't really see what the big deal is if he went, but that ending had angst written all over it.

[Mickey_Bickey]

That was terrible. I'm pretty pissed off... They weren't sharing deep intimate secrets it was just hanging with a friend, my god Clark get the stick out from betwixt thy buttcheeks and put on a pair of steel cajones!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[zorasuperman]

Gosh I am sooooo mad. I just dont get what Clark is all tense about; Lois understood him, and accepted him. More than anyone else I can say. She accepted him I think, in my opinion, in a blink of an eye. I dont get what Clarks excuse was for not going with Lois; she obviously really really likes you, and you do too, otherwise you wouldn't be stalking her you stalker (LOL), and she obviously understood who you are too. It didn't require you to tell her your secret at that second, but still he should have met her.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

But did he actually go?

Did you watch the episode?

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

See the best ones are worth waiting for. It's the push/pull that keeps people wanting more the "will they or won't they?" type of stuff.

That's what draws people in

[Mickey_Bickey]

I wish Lois hadn't invited him for coffee if I'm honest. It made her seem too forgiving - I'd far rather have had her with her walls up. The ending was SO SAD but as much for Clark as for Lois. He wouldn't even have been there if he wasn't interested. Instead you could almost feel him wavering before he sent that message. But I HATE that she sent the message back and he knows she was there.

Just very very sad.

At the same time, I still feel it would have been too soon after the whole Lana fiasco. I'd rather have it happen slowly. And there's the bonus that they won't give us seven years of this angst crap. Lois had better throw herself into her career and block him out now. She gave him a shot. HIS LOSS. And anything in the future would need to be AFTER he knows exactly what it is he wants.


Well said, Annie!! Well said!!!

[skylar]

Clark could have handle that situation in a different way and not hurt Lois again.

[ZODisGOD]

I am mad that they making Clark look like a wuss again. It's just a fricken coffee

now I know you don't want to talk about coffee.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Did you watch the episode?


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Mrs. Superman]

Well it made for great drama, I'll give the writers that. It was heart wrenching to watch Lois sit there, hoping but not trying to get dissapointed until of course he sent that text message. Do I think he's a coward? Yes, and I'm mad at him for not manning up as a friend. Clearly hes scared of his feelings, bc if he just saw her as a friend he would have at least went over there and had a drink with her as a friend. I'm not really mad at the writers...I realize they have to stall but its time for Lois to be chased, not the other way around. NEVER the other way around (at least never again on Smallville).

[melissan02]

Clark could have handle that situation in a different way and not hurt Lois again.

That seems to be his MO when it comes to Lois though. Hurt, hurt, and more hurt.
She deserves better!

[Mickey_Bickey]

I'm just furious that Lois actually asked Clark out. Where's the anger over what happened before she left? As for Clark, it was just coffee so I don't really see what the big deal is if he went, but that ending had angst written all over it.

So NOT like Lois and Clark, huh!!??? OH, I agree completely!!! Clark standing there like he's watching Lois kiss another guy instead of sitting by herself for God sakes!!

[Alexander III]

Clark: Hello, I'm ME, I stood everyone up! How u gonna act?

[Mickey_Bickey]

That seems to be his MO when it comes to Lois though. Hurt, hurt, and more hurt.
She deserves better!


What a BUM BUM!!

[ledzepfan23]

Rookie move Clark

[cloisthelegendbegins]

See the best ones are worth waiting for. It's the push/pull that keeps people wanting more the "will they or won't they?" type of stuff.

That's what draws people in

EXACTLY. But doesn't make it any less sad to watch. Particularly from Lois' pov.


Clark could have handle that situation in a different way and not hurt Lois again.

Thing is he doesn't really know the depth of her feelings. He's ALWAYS been oblivious to that kind of thing and she practically shrugged it off and gave him an out...

[individuall]

I'm sad.
So sad, especially when Lois messaged her back, saying she could not make it, but she was there, and Clark was like... :(

They both technically showed. Well Clark was across the street but it's not like he was brooding in the barn...He's just insecure..And who could blame him?
Someone from another forum put it best so I'm going to quote her...

source: twhatley


Okay, don't hate me but I can kind of see where Clark is coming from. Yes, he knows that he loves Lois and she is putting herself out there. I just don't think that he can be with her without giving her all of him. While he was happy to be with Lana at first, he was happy to give her only half of him before she knew the secret. With Lois, he feels as if she deserved more than him having to hold part of himself from her. He wants her to love all of him.

He told Chloe that it was a moment after he told Lois when he thought he could have it all. He didn't say it was a moment after the story broke. He was the happiest when he told Lois and she reacted the way she did. That was his perfect moment, not the fanfare he got on the street.

Yes, he is stupid for not telling her, but he saw all hell break out. He don't think that she would tell anyone, but he also want to protect her. So, he is saying to her "you deserve more than half of me and I love you too much to give you all of me right now."

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EXACTLY. But doesn't make it any less sad to watch. Particularly from Lois' pov.



Thing is he doesn't really know the depth of her feelings. He's ALWAYS been oblivious to that kind of thing and she practically shrugged it off and gave him an out...

Exactly. Well, I guess Kelly was telling the truth..Insecurities are getting in the way...

[Jack-El49]

Here's why I think the ending sucked (the rest was terrific), in two weeks, Chloe will see how hard Clark has fallen for Lois. What happens in two weeks that Clark now has fallen so hard for Lois? Did he find his stones in the tool chest in the barn? Of course, Lois will be shutting him out and we'll be stuck with the friggin' worn out, overblown, tired as dried out dog crap game of cat and mouse that we've seen over and over and over again.

If I'm right, I don't think I'll watch this series next season because I've seen it all before.

BTW, Erica ROCKED that episode.

[kryptotrite]

Unless Lois wants to compete with Lana's ghost, she should be glad he didn't show.

[Skaterpen357]

I'm mad at Clark, and yet, I like that the writers did that. I like becoming emotionally invested in Clark's life, so when the writers pull something that makes me mad, if they do it for the right reasons, I love the writers for it.

DP rooftop in "Power?" Wasn't supposed to be a bad thing, but was, because they simply stabbed future Lois in the back for no reason other than Clana-service. Standing Lois up? It makes us mad at Clark for not seeing what is there, and makes us feel sad for Lois and shows an actual, at-this-single-moment-vulnerable, relatable character in a moment of emotional weakness. It's powerful, and while my emotional side is mentally chastising Clark, my literary side gives PS3 a round of applause I thought would never be earned after Lanaville's Last Stand.

[MrZeppo]

I vote "No".

I'm actually okay with it because I, among a LOT of people here, felt it would be horrible writing and character assassination to have Lois and Clark jump immediately into a relationship after what happened with all the Clana in "Requiem". I thought it was REALLY cute how the Clois played out this episode and was very impressed with the progression, but Clark needs to focus on himself for a moment before considering Lois.

But looking at them this whole episode, it's there. The chemistry between them was so hot it was like bursts of fire shooting out of Clark's eyes.

Besides, they HAVE to save Clois for S9. Anticipation and the buildup are the best part of any love story. They can't give it to the audience right away, and at least you had them both acknowledge something is there to each other. That was so wow-worthy in itself.

I did feel bad for Lois sitting there all hopeful, but it was heartbreaking to also see Clark across the street afraid of his life hurting her.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Soooooo sad though. Oh if only they knew what we know.

[amberdawn]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

That's pretty much how it seems.

[individuall]

Soooooo sad though. Oh if only they knew what we know.

It would certainly make things a lot easier....And we probably would have had Lois jumping Clark in that cornfield ;):lol:

[Night_Hawk90]

I dont understand the anger, it was expected that he wouldnt show up.

[myankskent]

I did feel bad for Lois sitting there all hopeful


And I also feel bad for Lois that she doesn't have a clue what happened when she was gone because if she did, there's no way in hell she would've even considered asking Clark out for coffee. But, this is the game that TPTB are going to play, I guess.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

That's pretty much how it seems.

Oh come on. That's harsh. Why even go there to begin with? You're not interested you don't go. Full stop.

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And I also feel bad for Lois that she doesn't have a clue what happened when she was gone because if she did, there's no way in hell she would've even considered asking Clark out for coffee.

Exactly! I think sometimes we forget THEY don't know what WE know.

[unfocused]

A couple of posts in xrayvisions thread made a valid point that I felt deserved a thread of it's own.

Clark decided not to join Lois at the end because he cares about her. He knows he isn't ready, but more importantly, he knows Lois isn't ready either. I know many of us just want him to dive head first into a relationship with her, but we have to remember that this relationship with be legendary. It needs the time, the build up, it needs all the elements ready. Clark needs to be closer to becoming Superman before he gives himself to Lois. It wouldn't be fair to her if she got a confused, insecure manboy, lol.

But seriously, Clark needs to be that man. Lois wouldn't settle for anything less, we all know that. And we all know she deserves a super man.

[mariagabriela]

Now instead of Clark and Lana angsty crap, we have Clois angst, same old BS. This show recycles over and over the same angles, S9 is going to get old soon.

[ClubXerxes]

I'm not happy he didn't meet her, but to be honest, it did drive the anticipation for more future interaction. Shows that have a love interest like this that meet too soon go downhill fast after the "hookup". Let's face it - part of the draw of the Lois and Superman story is that it is not easy for them to be together, and it always seems to be a problem.

For those of you who watched Friends - the show was semi watchable before Ross and Rachel hooked up...once they did, it was the fast train to hell...the show never recovered after that. Same thing is happening with Jim and Pam on the Office...

This was the right thing for the show - though it was still a bit disappointing.

[Jack-El49]

Now instead of Clark and Lana angsty crap, we have Clois angst, same old BS. This show recycles over and over the same angles, S9 is going to get old soon.

Yeah, like we've never seen that before with any other version of Lois and Clark. Talk about old - it was OLD and WORN OUT when they were doing it on Lois and Clark: TNAoS.

[I_Heart_L&C]

Honestly, it made me sad, then kind of mad... but you know what? I'd rather they both hold off on pursuing anything in the romantic relationship department until Clark has had time to fully and truly get over the one who's name shall remain unspoken. Its just too soon for anything else. As he himself admitted to her earlier in the episode, she is special, and under no terms should she be reduced to a rebound or 2nd choice! Yeah, I'm a little annoyed that she offered him an opportunity, but that just speaks volumes about how great a person she is. Believe me, he knows it...he sees it... he's just not ready for it. I can live with it.

[antx]

I wasn't mad,but I did feel really bad for Lois.I kinda knew he would leave the talk in the DP as a sufficient enough conversation to clear the air between them.Though I do wonder what they would of discussed had they met up again.Probably more on the almost kiss in Bride.

[Vergon6]

It would certainly make things a lot easier....And we probably would have had Lois jumping Clark in that cornfield ;):lol:
:rotfl:

[davidbrenton]

No, I loved it. This is where they are BUILDING Clois block by block and I couldn't be happier.

It was heart-tugging and so enjoyable, especially now that we have a confirmed season 9. This relationship is worth the wait.

[devilicus rebel]

That is a good point. I think most people understand that deep down, but it doesn't take away from the fact that she has been around for years and we all want to see the relationship happen. My guess is that most people wanted it now because there was no confirmation of a season 9. Now, I think more people will relax and let it happen.

[Vergon6]

They shouldn't have had Lois ask him out to coffee.

[liana]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

Then he should have been straightforward and say so. He is supposed to be her friend, and you don't do that to a friend. It is as simple as that. The truth is that was no reason for him to stood her up. As a friend, he should know better, and if he is interested, then he is stupid.

[celita]

That's pretty much how it seems.

Come on!!! seriously?

[ClarkyBoy14]

It was kind of cute how Clark got all dressed to meet him, and then he was too scared to go to her. :)

I can't wait to see how their relationship unfolds.

[fan of the man]

No! matter of fact, I loved it, because they will have to deal with their feelings for one another and that will create alot of good story lines, that make for alot of good episodes,
face it pain and angst make for good storys and it keeps the show interesting, one of the problems with the hit TV series LOIS and CLARK the adventures of SUPERMAN in my opionion was that they put Lois and Clark together to soon, I would love to see Clark deal with jealous over Lois dating other people and Lois dealing with jealous over Clark dating other people, they both desire to be with each other but they are not aware how each other feels about the other until that right time comes , the moment of all moments they come face to face with their feeling for each other after they have fought thru every fear,every emotion, and every crisis and they conclude there is no other they want to be with but each other. It is the journey that make the story, and I love the way the writers are setting the stage.

[AndiGirl]

I'm mad at how everything went down. All it took was Clark to pick up Lois from the airport for her to be just fine with everything that happened and for some ridiculous reason TPTB actually had Lois ask Clark out for coffee. Are you kidding me after everything that happened previously?

I completely agree!
Like the whole Lana ordeal never happend?? If anyone should be asking anyone out...it's Clark asking Lois. But she was ready and willing to give it another go....no questions asked.

I cant say I totally blame Clark though. I think its dumb that he thinks this whole experience proves he CANT tell Lois...if anything, it should show him she wont judge at all. But he cares about her too much to put her at risk, and he knows as long as she doesnt know who he really is...they cant be together.

In short....just the writers attempt to slow down the Clois mobile. :rolleyes:

[redeem147]

I think Clark knows he could get hurt again, and it's too soon. And yes, she could get hurt too. I'm encouraged that he didn't meet her - if he didn't care, or only thought of her as a friend, he wouldn't have hesitated in having coffee.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Good point!

[BadToad]

No, I'm not mad. But I was disappointed in his decision making, and I don't quite understand where he's coming from. I can't be mad at him, because I don't think there's any malice intended, and he obviously cares or he wouldn't have stood across the street and watched her. But really, I don't know where My Clark is coming from, or what he's thinking. Its like he's making the same mistakes all over again.

And I hate to say it, but coming off the Lana arc, they just completely FUBAR'ed Clark when it comes to relationship. He should probably remain single for a long while.

[Clois♥Tomerica]

What are these writers doing? It started off great this season with Clark and Lois’s relationship FINALLY moving foward but now it seems it is back to the same crap… this show is depressing to watch…. these characters are constantly abused it is not even funny….. that, and it MAKES NO SENSE….Ugh! :mad:

[gossiper101]

Dont get me wrong I voted no only because I thought if he did go to have coffee with her it would be too soon for him to get over lana. He needs to get his priorites straight before he starts anything with lois. Its too soon :(

[Minela]

No. A heart to heart talk is too soon. This way, they can maybe go back to the banter.

[-Nora-]

I'm not mad at all. I just cried my eyes out for both of them.

Clark showed up. He SHOWED. UP. And he watched her from across the street and was clearly scared out of his mind, just like Chloe said. He's scared of opening up and getting hurt again.

But he has fallen for her. And they will find their way to each other, because they're Lois Lane and Clark Kent.

[melissan02]

No, I'm not mad. But I was disappointed in his decision making, and I don't quite understand where he's coming from. I can't be mad at him, because I don't think there's any malice intended, and he obviously cares or he wouldn't have stood across the street and watched her. But really, I don't know where My Clark is coming from, or what he's thinking. Its like he's making the same mistakes all over again.

And I hate to say it, but coming off the Lana arc, they just completely FUBAR'ed Clark when it comes to relationship. He should probably remain single for a long while.
Yes, BadToad, he should. And I'm jumping ship. At least for now (this season).
Just that 'ship wise', Clark is POORLY written!

[ScooterKalEl]

Clark sending a text message on her phone was at least an attempt to postpone his feelings without a complete rejection. He didn't stand her up without a notice. Season 9 will be ready for the heat.

[Sports72Xtrm]

I understand wanting to keep his secret from Lois for her own safety but can he at least show up for a cup of coffee and hang out with the co-worker who works across from you. I mean I'm sure you can talk about other things other than alien stuff.

[-Nora-]

I understand wanting to keep his secret from Lois for her own safety but can he at least show up for a cup of coffee and hang out with the co-worker who works across from you. I mean I'm sure you can talk about other things other than alien stuff.

Oh good god it was a DATE! He wasn't going to hang out with a buddy. He was going on a DATE! And he was SCARED! He CHICKENED OUT!

[xrayvision]

No, I'm not mad. But I was disappointed in his decision making, and I don't quite understand where he's coming from. I can't be mad at him, because I don't think there's any malice intended, and he obviously cares or he wouldn't have stood across the street and watched her. But really, I don't know where My Clark is coming from, or what he's thinking. Its like he's making the same mistakes all over again.

And I hate to say it, but coming off the Lana arc, they just completely FUBAR'ed Clark when it comes to relationship. He should probably remain single for a long while.

My main point to this complaint was that Clark does consider Lois special and doesn't want to ruin things with her by proceeding too fast, or without thinking. He doesn't want a repeat of the Lana situation. So he's just thinking things through & putting everything in perspective before proceeding. And this is the exact opposite of the BDA people are calling him. This was a very smart move.

I'm willing to bet BadToad that like me you were not happy after watching the scene where they had Chloe just give away Clark's future plan of being a reporter (Clark Kent) in his regular job while saving the red/blue for his hero work. To me, this is what viewers should have been the most pissed off about because this is another instance of Chloe being used to solve Clark's problems without having him go through the journey of coming to an identity solution on his own. And this journey should have been one of the final ones for Clark in the show (his last area of development after they ruined his development into becoming a reporter), but it was ruined by a few lines blurted out by Chloe. This was the biggest travesty of the episode for me and anyone else who truly cares about the development of Clark into Superman.

[supes0]

But I HATE that she sent the message back and he knows she was there.

What else could she do? She had to salvage her pride somehow.


Lois had better throw herself into her career and block him out now. She gave him a shot. HIS LOSS. And anything in the future would need to be AFTER he knows exactly what it is he wants.

Word.

[mariagabriela]

What are these writers doing? It started off great this season with Clark and Lois’s relationship FINALLY moving foward but now it seems it is back to the same crap… this show is depressing to watch…. these characters are constantly abused it is not even funny….. that, and it MAKES NO SENSE….Ugh! :mad:

ITA.

[BadToad]

My main point to this complaint was that Clark does consider Lois special and doesn't want to ruin things with her by proceeding too fast, or without thinking. He doesn't want a repeat of the Lana situation. So he's just thinking things through & putting everything in perspective before proceeding. And this is the exact opposite of what people are calling him. This was a very smart move.

I like that perspective X-Ray :)

And ya know, all I need is some better dialogue, fleshing out Clark's feelings and emotions. I am BEYOND frustrated with the writing for him that leaves so much of whats going on in his head ambigious.

But yes, it makes sense for him to take a breath, and consider the situation, and not jump into something else. What I will say for what happened in this episode, on the positive side, is that it shows Clark's not just rebounding. If he was just rebounding, he'd be leaping without looking.


I'm willing to bet BadToad that like me you were not happy after watching the scene where they had Chloe just give away Clark's future plan of being a reporter (Clark Kent) in his regular job while saving the red/blue for his hero work. To me, this is what viewers should have been the most pissed off about because this is another instance of Chloe being used to solve Clark's problems without having him go through the journey of coming to an identity solution on his own. And this journey should have been one of the final ones for Clark in the show (his last area of development after they ruined his development into becoming a reporter), but it was ruined by a few lines blurted out by Chloe. This was the biggest travesty of the episode for me and anyone else who truly cares about the development of Clark into Superman.

UGH X-Ray , don't get me started. It seems as though when I have a problem with these scenes, I'm accusing on hating of Chloe. But thats not the case. I'm beyond aggravated that the writers continue to write Chloe at the expense of the Clark. I know Chloe is smart. I know she's a good friend. But honestly, can't some things just belong TO CLARK? Can't we see him coming up with the big ideas more often? Its just so freaking aggravating, and it does the Chlark friendship no favors because it makes them seem more like Pinky and the Brain rather then equals. IMO

[susangail]

Furious. The man has the maturity of a brick. There were other ways to do this than to hurt her.

[bigteep]

I am mad that they making Clark look like a wuss again. It's just a fricken coffee

Exactly my thought. Geez. He wasn't going over there to make wedding plans.
They were just chatting over coffee. Friends do that ALL the time.
What was the big issue?

[Marfeic2011]

clark is such a ********* - fill in the blank - what a ******* - nuf said.

[melissan02]

Furious. The man has the maturity of a brick. There were other ways to do this than to hurt her.

Yes! And I hate, hate, hate that he saw a weak, hurt Lois. Grrrrrr!

[Alexander III]

Oh good god it was a DATE! He wasn't going to hang out with a buddy. He was going on a DATE! And he was SCARED! He CHICKENED OUT!

He has to, coz he's a big wuss.

[AndiGirl]

Exactly my thought. Geez. He wasn't going over there to make wedding plans.
They were just chatting over coffee. Friends do that ALL the time.
What was the big issue?

I dont think it was the coffee....just what the "date" represented.
Lois made it clear that if he wanted to move forward....meet her, and if not "lets just say I get it."

He couldnt go over as a friend, that was kind of the whole point of the coffee date. To decide whether they were going to stay friends or not.

[melissan02]

I dont think it was the coffee....just what the "date" represented.
Lois made it clear that if he wanted to move forward....meet her, and if not "lets just say I get it."

He couldnt go over as a friend, that was kind of the whole point of the coffee date. To decide whether they were going to stay friends or not.

Exactly! Big FAIL!!!

[AndiGirl]

Furious. The man has the maturity of a brick. There were other ways to do this than to hurt her.

I can agree with this....
I think its dumb the coffee thing had to happen. If he knew when they were in the DP that he couldnt move forward with her....tell her then!

Dont make the poor girl sit by herself when you had other opportunities to tell her. This way they dont have to have the awkward conversation.....just pathetic really. :rolleyes:

[Aries83]

She just wants him to love her...Damnit, I wanted to see him walk over there, but he didn't. They better make up for it because Clois is the only thing the show really has going for it, and if they're gonna do it, show us some payoff...

[Cali978]

right now I don't know where I stand with this whole clois thing. in one way I'm PISSED OFF that the BDA didn't go to lois, but in another way I'm happy that he didn't cause it isn't time for them to start anything romantic yet.... im my opinion.

[melissan02]

I can agree with this....
I think its dumb the coffee thing had to happen. If he knew when they were in the DP that he couldnt move forward with her....tell her then!

Dont make the poor girl sit by herself when you had other opportunities to tell her. This way they dont have to have the awkward conversation.....just pathetic really. :rolleyes:

Ah yes, pathetic...seems to me I've used that word recently to describe someone.
coughsclarkcoughs

[myankskent]

Yes! And I hate, hate, hate that he saw a weak, hurt Lois. Grrrrrr!

I just hate the fact that we had to see another weak and hurt Lois. I thought that she was going to return and create some distance between her and Clark but I guess not.

[WickedJenn]

I dont think it was the coffee....just what the "date" represented.
Lois made it clear that if he wanted to move forward....meet her, and if not "lets just say I get it."

He couldnt go over as a friend, that was kind of the whole point of the coffee date. To decide whether they were going to stay friends or not.

Ah, thank you Andi ;)

That's pretty much how I saw it too.

[individuall]

I dont think it was the coffee....just what the "date" represented.
Lois made it clear that if he wanted to move forward....meet her, and if not "lets just say I get it."

He couldnt go over as a friend, that was kind of the whole point of the coffee date. To decide whether they were going to stay friends or not.

friends? I don't think it was about staying friends I thought it was about whether or not he had stronger feelings for her. More than friendship.
I think it was kind of like an ultimatium, but not really..Like if you like me in a romantic sense you'll meet for coffee...If you don't show.."I'll get the message"
It's clear that Clark was torn and I think he wanted to go over, I mean he showed so that means he does have feeling for Lois..But I think he doesn't want to pursue anything romantic with her unless he can tell her his secret...He can't go halfsies with Lois..It's an all or nothing kind of deal..And he's not ready for the all..So he took the nothing...And now I hope Lois throws herself into her work and ignores him...

[blink2matrix]

I'm sad, not mad. It's just not meant to be this soon. He needs to accept his destiny before he can accept Lois.
completely agree. I did really like the Clois spark being rekindled but it just isn't the right time just yet.

lol, everyone was arguing for the past month that if clark got with Lois in infamous she'd be nothing more than left-overs/second best. Delaying Clois at least for this episode pays respect to her in that it's actually a conscious choice when clark is with her instead of just rushing from one love to the other.

I HATED watching how the episode ended. I wish Clark did just go on the date and was so sad about it not happening but i can definitely wait. I'm happy that they are aware of the attraction now and the interest even if it means Lois hating clark for a few episodes, lol.

[xrayvision]

UGH X-Ray , don't get me started. It seems as though when I have a problem with these scenes, I'm accusing on hating on Chloe. But thats not the case. I'm beyond aggravated that the writers continue to write Chloe at the expense of the Clark. I know Chloe is smart. I know she's a good friend. But honestly, can't some things just belong TO CLARK? Can't we see him coming up with the big ideas more often? Its just so freaking aggravating, and it does the Chlark friendship no favors because it makes them seem more like Pinky and the Brain rather then equals. IMO

That's the thing---Clark should always be a step ahead of her or anyone else---he's supposed to be Superman. He's supposed to be able to anticipate things so he's able to save the world.

Anything regarding his identity & powers should be left alone for Clark to discover. I liked the Kents helping him with his powers because they were living with him 7 days a week, but they didn't upstage the guy like Chloe has with his superbreath power and now the entire idea of his future Superman schematic.

If you compare Clark's relationship with Chloe prior to season 5 with the post-season 5 situation, it's like day & night---a complete 180. That is exactly when he became written as a lazy idiot who didn't do things on his own unless otherwise told. This is what you & I mean when we say she is built up at Clark's expense. For the majority of this season, it wasn't the case--and I started liking her character again. I loved the idea of the erased memories specifically for this reason. But even before & after that plot, she was actually not upstaging Clark until now in Infamous. This is why I hope there is no Chloe in season 9. I want a full season where Clark can think on his own again without having his future spoiled for him without having to go through the journey of finding things out for himself. Lois promotes this right now---Chloe no longer does.

[AndiGirl]

Ah, thank you Andi ;)

That's pretty much how I saw it too.

I'm glad you agree Jenn honey!! :D

[melissan02]

I just hate the fact that we had to see another weak and hurt Lois. I thought that she was going to return and create some distance between her and Clark but I guess not.

Right. So much for continuity and characterization!:rolleyes: Lois Lane WOULD put distance between her and Clark. For a split second she did (near the beginning when he approached her), but then she went all mushy! Even after the time reversal!! It was just not Lois...not Lois at all!:(:mad:

[llk6165]

Nope. I learned my lesson with this stinkin' show!!:mad: I'm not mad.
Lois deserves better!;) I've said that since "Bulletproof"!!
I know just where she can find it...and with whom!!!;)


Are you talking about Josh??

[princessdiana]

I think Clark is afraid of disappointing Lois. Lois is very idealistic. She tells him in the barn that when she first learned about him she thought "not Clark" because she "had been down the hero road before". She feels Clark doesn't need that hero complex thing to make him special, he's special just as Clark. She goes on to tell him that she thought it would be different this time, because maybe her tendancy to get involved with heros never ends well, but she understands that maybe for her it will never be different. He tells her that's not true, that she's special and that's why it is different.

Jump through the time warp and Clark is afraid of that speech. Afraid to disappoint Lois' belief in him. They really play up Lois' daddy issues in SV. She gets involved with the hero types because she is looking for the love and acceptance that her Dad didn't have time to give her. Clark knows that, knows she "can't be left behind again" he's afraid of disappointing her, of breaking her heart, because crushing her strength would undo him.

[WickedJenn]

I'm glad you agree Jenn honey!! :D

I was expecting exactly what happened to happen. They've got to spread this out, and though they don't do it like I would (but then they rarely ever do)...

The funny part was they both did the exact same thing.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

And I hate to say it, but coming off the Lana arc, they just completely FUBAR'ed Clark when it comes to relationship. He should probably remain single for a long while.

Which is kinda why I'm glad he DIDN'T go. Having him stand across the street from her was enough for me right now. That way we know he's torn. I think to have him sit down and have a talk with Lois about what happened at the wedding and how he feels about her coming off the back of him on his damn knees would just make him look like a schmuck and it was my biggest fear after Requiem. I think we'll get more insight into how he feels in Hex tbh. Right now he has a lot to work his way through. And he's BOUND to be insecure after the Lana fiasco.


My main point to this complaint was that Clark does consider Lois special and doesn't want to ruin things with her by proceeding too fast, or without thinking. He doesn't want a repeat of the Lana situation. So he's just thinking things through & putting everything in perspective before proceeding. And this is the exact opposite of the BDA people are calling him. This was a very smart move.

Great post! Exactly how I saw it :)


I'm willing to bet BadToad that like me you were not happy after watching the scene where they had Chloe just give away Clark's future plan of being a reporter (Clark Kent) in his regular job while saving the red/blue for his hero work. To me, this is what viewers should have been the most pissed off about because this is another instance of Chloe being used to solve Clark's problems without having him go through the journey of coming to an identity solution on his own. And this journey should have been one of the final ones for Clark in the show (his last area of development after they ruined his development into becoming a reporter), but it was ruined by a few lines blurted out by Chloe. This was the biggest travesty of the episode for me and anyone else who truly cares about the development of Clark into Superman.

I mentioned this on another thread. THAT really bothered me. I would far rather Clark came to that conclusion on his own. I'm sick of exposition from others doing Clark's thinking FOR HIM. Giving him another pov is one thing or debating things with him but just coming up with genius ideas he should have on his own? Makes me wonder just how much of the whole Superman persona is actually CLARK'S CHOICE.


What else could she do? She had to salvage her pride somehow.

Oh I'm not saying she shouldn't have sent it or that I wouldn't have done the exact same thing in her place. It was just sad is all.


And ya know, all I need is some better dialogue, fleshing out Clark's feelings and emotions. I am BEYOND frustrated with the writing for him that leaves so much of whats going on in his head ambigious.

But yes, it makes sense for him to take a breath, and consider the situation, and not jump into something else. What I will say for what happened in this episode, on the positive side, is that it shows Clark's not just rebounding. If he was just rebounding, he'd be leaping without looking.

Yeah his thoughts are too ambiguous in a lot of areas. But I still think it's too soon for him to be discussing his feelings for Lois so soon after Lana. I think having time and varying situations SHOW HIM that Lois is a better match for him makes for a far more satisfying conclusion when he does get into a relationship with her. His relationship with Lana was a disaster no matter what angle they approached it from and caring about Lois means he wouldn't want to put her through that. That's what I think anyway.

But from a friendship POV standing her up for coffee didn't help any I don't think...


UGH X-Ray , don't get me started. It seems as though when I have a problem with these scenes, I'm accusing on hating on Chloe. But thats not the case. I'm beyond aggravated that the writers continue to write Chloe at the expense of the Clark. I know Chloe is smart. I know she's a good friend. But honestly, can't some things just belong TO CLARK? Can't we see him coming up with the big ideas more often? Its just so freaking aggravating, and it does the Chlark friendship no favors because it makes them seem more like Pinky and the Brain rather then equals. IMO

WORD!

[Lilah]

I'm just sad... that last scene was heartbreaking... what song was that? I'll tell you one thing, fanfiction will be hoppin' this week with Clois re-writes lol

[xrayvision]

^^Thanks Annie!

[AndiGirl]

friends? I don't think it was about staying friends I thought it was about whether or not he had stronger feelings for her. More than friendship.
I think it was kind of like an ultimatium, but not really..Like if you like me in a romantic sense you'll meet for coffee...If you don't show.."I'll get the message"
It's clear that Clark was torn and I think he wanted to go over, I mean he showed so that means he does have feeling for Lois..But I think he doesn't want to pursue anything romantic with her unless he can tell her his secret...He can't go halfsies with Lois..It's an all or nothing kind of deal..And he's not ready for the all..So he took the nothing...And now I hope Lois throws herself into her work and ignores him...

ITA! :)
Going over and having coffee with her was stepping over the friend boundary once and for all. No more games...no more bull. It would be obvious then to both of them that the almost kiss wasnt a fluke...and they were both on the same page.

Some people are asking why he couldnt atleast go over as a friend and comfort her....because she was obviously alone and upset. But he really couldnt just go over as a friend...that wasnt the purpose of the meeting.

So I do think the whole thing was handled badly....but I can understand why he just send a quick text during the last scene. There wasnt anything else to be done...without giving her a mixed message.

[paolinki25]

I'm not mad, because I was expecting this kind of crap ever since the last episode we watched.

[AndiGirl]

I was expecting exactly what happened to happen. They've got to spread this out, and though they don't do it like I would (but then they rarely ever do)...

The funny part was they both did the exact same thing.

I expected it too. Now that we have season 9....they've got to back track a bit.
I wish he would have just told her while they were at the DP...and had a convo like two mature adults...but like you said, they rarely handle things the way I would like! :lol:

I thought the fact that they both lied was so telling. Neither wanted to be vulnerable...*sigh*...oh Lois and Clark, what am I going to do with you! :o

[PinkPR08]

I agree that it's too soon, but then they should have never brought it up!!!!!!

[Faby]

I've always been a fan of Smallville since Lois Lane started in the show. I cried my self out when I saw how she was waiting for him in anticipation....She put herself out there:mad:
I mean, I can't believe he stood her up, but I have to agree with some of you guys, it was too soon after the Lana BS. However, they could have handle this differently and not have Clark break Lois's heart. They could have just have Lois put up the walls again and not show her so vulnerable to him. Give him something to work for rather than she putting everything on a silver platter.
It also broke my heart that he SHOWED up and just stood there struggling whether to go up to her or not. He was even dressed up, did you guys see? Probably I am being too optimistic, but this was a way of telling us that he cares for her a lot. ;)
I just hope that either this season or S9 they can finally give us the Clois we have been waiting for four years.

[Dyanara]

Im tired of this crap! And more than anything I cant believe Lois is so "beepin" FORGIVING! After what he did to her I wouldnt give him the time of day!

[individuall]

ITA! :)
Going over and having coffee with her was stepping over the friend boundary once and for all. No more games...no more bull. It would be obvious then to both of them that the almost kiss wasnt a fluke...and they were both on the same page.

Some people are asking why he couldnt atleast go over as a friend and comfort her....because she was obviously alone and upset. But he really couldnt just go over as a friend...that wasnt the purpose of the meeting.

So I do think the whole thing was handled badly....but I can understand why he just send a quick text during the last scene. There wasnt anything else to be done...without giving her a mixed message.

Exactly. It was sad to watch..But I'm kind of glad it played out that way...I mean they are obviously stalling Clois..which is fine with me...I wanted it to go slow after the Lana arc and it is..So I'm good on that front.

[clois-destiny-forever]

Yeah, they're stalling it. I'm more sad than mad, too. Just a big sigh after the episode. So much happened and so much didn't happen...

[Dyanara]

They shouldn't have had Lois ask him out to coffee.

Thank YOU!

[individuall]

Yeah, they're stalling it. I'm more sad than mad, too. Just a big sigh after the episode. So much happened and so much didn't happen...

Yeah, But I think it'll pay off in the long run...Well hopefully


We all know how the story ends after all..;)

[davidbrenton]

Yeah, But I think it'll pay off in the long run...Well hopefully



Exactly. I have no qualms with Clois given "the long run". They've stepped up the time frame this season and it's paid off. It's clear they can handle Clois based on clois alone and I have FULL faith in the writers because I truly believe they wrote s8 with an inherent knowledge of S9 and they're plan to get there.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Not really.

It's still early days for them both.

[Karafan1]

I'm"on the fence" with this one. On one hand I really wanted Clark to be there with Lois, but on the other I can see why he's not getting too close after what happened after he told her who he really is..

[JorEl23]

I'm not happy about it...

[Sports72Xtrm]

Ok after thinking about it yeah he chickened out but his reasoning was that it would hurt Lois in the long run. Lois chickened out too in committed so it's not like he was the only one to be scared. It's just complicated. So no I'm not mad at him.

[alma]

If the writers were not going to have him show then they shouldn't have had Lois ask. I felt really bad for her waiting for him. I kinda felt bad for him as well, we could see that he felt bad doing that. But my heart broke for Lois.

[Faby]

If the writers were not going to have him show then they shouldn't have had Lois ask. I felt really bad for her waiting for him. I kinda felt bad for him as well, we could see that he felt bad doing that. But my heart broke for Lois.

Amen to this!

[clois-destiny-forever]

They're both just taking a step back. It's hard to watch with patience, but ya gotta hope that the pay-off will be completely worth it.

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

He cares about her and doesn't want her to be put in danger (cause he'd have to tell her if he got serious with her). It's too soon after Lana. It's nice that Lois gave him an out if he wanted one. What's great about the scene is seeing that Clark actually went to the date, got dressed up and everything, and that Lois was clearly wanting him to show. All she had to do was look over her shoulder and she would have seen him. It's a very clear showing by Clark of his caring for Lois. It's one of the first times we see it very clearly. I absolutely loved that scene. Can't wait to see what the remainder of this season, and then season nine, will have in store.

[susangail]

I agree that it's too soon, but then they should have never brought it up!!!!!!

There's a lot to that. Or they could have just had coffee and reconnected in a friendly but platonic way for now. I'm probably still mad about the whole thing, but I was bothered by his playing voyeur from across the street. Maybe next week, he'll be super-snooping in her underwear drawer.

[Marfeic2011]

I can agree with this....
I think its dumb the coffee thing had to happen. If he knew when they were in the DP that he couldnt move forward with her....tell her then!

Dont make the poor girl sit by herself when you had other opportunities to tell her. This way they dont have to have the awkward conversation.....just pathetic really. :rolleyes:

This goes back to what Chloe said to him in promise about his willingness to run into burning buildings being juctiposed against his unwillingness to risk emotional pain - this version of clark kent is a coward! how brave do you have to be to jump in front of a bus if you know you can't be hurt - NONE! But when it comes to the real dangers of hurt feelings and difficult conversations he almost always chickens out - I am sorry but I have very little respect for this version of CK - he's not super-manly at all to me - he seems like a coward when it comes to the really hard stuff.

[Alicia Chipy]

I wish Lois hadn't invited him for coffee if I'm honest. It made her seem too forgiving - I'd far rather have had her with her walls up. The ending was SO SAD but as much for Clark as for Lois. He wouldn't even have been there if he wasn't interested. Instead you could almost feel him wavering before he sent that message. But I HATE that she sent the message back and he knows she was there.

Just very very sad.

At the same time, I still feel it would have been too soon after the whole Lana fiasco. I'd rather have it happen slowly. And there's the bonus that they won't give us seven years of this angst crap. Lois had better throw herself into her career and block him out now. She gave him a shot. HIS LOSS. And anything in the future would need to be AFTER he knows exactly what it is he wants.

ITA
But I'm still mad at CK anyway!:mad:

[LovelyLoisLane]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

I think it is rather obvious that wasn't the case, or he wouldn't have been standing across the street watching her and looking all sad. He just wouldn't have shown up at all if he had zero interest, don't you think?

I wasn't terribly mad, I actually liked that scene and I'm VERY happy there was no kiss as there was hinted at. That would have been a drive-by of the highest order coming off of that terrible arc we just had. Lois was sad but she tried to act like it wasn't a big deal before hand anyway, so it wasn't a date, and with her reply on the text I think she'll be alright. I would have liked to see him at least have coffee with her though. We rarely get to see him just hanging out. But I'm not that upset that he didn't because having him watch her from afar I thought was a pretty lovely scene and Tom Welling played the emotion on his face very well. At the end it was pretty clear that whatever kept him from having coffee with her wasn't disinterest, but more a level of insecurity and concern over what getting close to Lois might do, not just to him but to her as well, I'd say.

Like I said in another thread I think he was really struggling with himself about going across the street. If he had already known he wouldn't show up I'm pretty sure he would have said something like "I'm sorry Lois but I don't think I'll be able to make it." When they were at the DP, so the fact that he didn't makes me think that he wanted to go but then when he saw Lois sitting there he just couldn't make himself go over there.

I don't know, I might be in the minority, but I really liked that scene a lot. : ) I even went back and re-watched it twice.

[SnowBird]

This is what I posted in another thread:

This meeting for coffee was more than that for Lois. She was opening the door for her and Clark to get closer. Clark knew this and made the decision to slow down on the feelings they have for each other. He just came off a breakup and so made a wise decision.....I have been reading different posts for weeks how they didn't want Lois to be a rebound girl. Now I see that people are upset that Clark didn't meet Lois for coffee to pursue their relationship. It can't be both ways. Clark is smart to have more time for him to heal before he gets into another relationship.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I absolutely loved that scene.

Me too! :D It felt very DC flavored as well. I could even see the comic strip in my mind.

One panel would have Lois sitting at the table with her cell phone in hand. Then another panel with a close up of Clark's message on it. Followed by two panels with Clark's shadow in the foreground and then a close up of his sad face. With a long panel at the bottom of him in the foreground with Lois in the background like a perspective artwork, with one of those off-yellow dialogue boxes in italics that represent thoughts.

"I wanted to go over there so much I could taste it, but I couldn't. Getting close to Lois is something I can't do right now . . . but maybe someday, I'll be able to cross the street . . ."

Those italic thought boxes at the end of a strip are always vague with some metaphor like that too. :P

[Fugoukakusha]

In a way, I'm kinda glad that Clark didn't show up even though I was crying because I just felt so bad for Lois lol. I think this might be a hint of what is to come for Season 9. With Clark not showing up Lois thinks that Clark is not interested in her at all therefore she won't pursue her feelings for him any longer. With Season 9 I'm thinking that maybe they'll play out the whole Superman (or red/blue blur)/Lois/Clark triangle thing with Lois completely in love with Superman knowing that Clark doesn't have feelings for her and with Clark doing the chasing.

[snookie16]

Me too! :D It felt very DC flavored as well. I could even see the comic strip in my mind.

One panel would have Lois sitting at the table with her cell phone in hand. Then another panel with a close up of Clark's message on it. Followed by two panels with Clark's shadow in the foreground and then a close up of his sad face. With a long panel at the bottom of him in the foreground with Lois in the background like a perspective artwork, with one of those off-yellow dialogue boxes in italics that represent thoughts.

"I wanted to go over there so much I could taste it, but I couldn't. Getting close to Lois is something I can't do right now . . . but maybe someday, I'll be able to cross the street . . ."

Those italic thought boxes at the end of a strip are always vague with some metaphor like that too. :P

I also felt the flavor of the DC comics or any other Superman flavor tonight. I was just Classic Lois and Clark. Also I can see a youtube video for Clois with the Superman Love Theme form the movies playing over it real of scenes from just tonights episode. So anyone up for the challenge of a video.

[Aries83]

Now I see that people are upset that Clark didn't meet Lois for coffee to pursue their relationship. It can't be both ways. Clark is smart to have more time for him to heal before he gets into another relationship.

I understand why they did it. She's his future love, but I think a lot more people would've been happy if they showed Clark walking over to the street and sitting down at the table panning out to the city with no dialogue between them instead of him just walking away.

[Boycott SF:Movie]

I lost all respect for the character. Standing Lois up just cause he doesn't want to be hurt. Lois deserves better than that a------.

Now I hope Clark turns gay or something cause he doesn't deserve Lois.

[AndiGirl]

This is what I posted in another thread:

This meeting for coffee was more than that for Lois. She was opening the door for her and Clark to get closer. Clark knew this and made the decision to slow down on the feelings they have for each other. He just came off a breakup and so made a wise decision.....I have been reading different posts for weeks how they didn't want Lois to be a rebound girl. Now I see that people are upset that Clark didn't meet Lois for coffee to pursue their relationship. It can't be both ways. Clark is smart to have more time for him to heal before he gets into another relationship.

ITA
It's way too soon for him to even think about another relationship.
I still think there were better ways to handle it...like talking to Lois in the DP, instead of letting her sit alone and wait for him. If he knew all along he couldnt pursue something deeper with her....not yet atleast....they could have atleast had a real conversation about it. Poor Lois tried...and it was one sided as usual.

I love Clark to death...but when it comes to matters of the heart, he can be quite the dunce. "Hmm....Lois wants to meet me for coffee....If I go it means I like her. I DO like her...but I cant be with her...not now. Maybe I should let her know that now?? While she's standing here...so she doesnt waist her time and look like a fool... Naw...she'll figure it out when I dont show up." :rolleyes:

[Bacio83]

I also felt the flavor of the DC comics or any other Superman flavor tonight. I was just Classic Lois and Clark. Also I can see a youtube video for Clois with the Superman Love Theme form the movies playing over it real of scenes from just tonights episode. So anyone up for the challenge of a video.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this when watching the scene. I kinda rolled my eyes and murmered "Here comes stalker Clark." Personally I hate and love stalker Clark, hated him with Lana love him with Lois. :0)

While I was sad for Lois because there was some form of rejection I was glad that Clark watched her from the shadows that spoke volumes.

[Pitbull On A Pantleg]

Me too! :D It felt very DC flavored as well. I could even see the comic strip in my mind.

One panel would have Lois sitting at the table with her cell phone in hand. Then another panel with a close up of Clark's message on it. Followed by two panels with Clark's shadow in the foreground and then a close up of his sad face. With a long panel at the bottom of him in the foreground with Lois in the background like a perspective artwork, with one of those off-yellow dialogue boxes in italics that represent thoughts.

"I wanted to go over there so much I could taste it, but I couldn't. Getting close to Lois is something I can't do right now . . . but maybe someday, I'll be able to cross the street . . ."

Those italic thought boxes at the end of a strip are always vague with some metaphor like that too. :P

Exactly. I adored that scene.

[SnowBird]

ITA
It's way too soon for him to even think about another relationship.
I still think there were better ways to handle it...like talking to Lois in the DP, instead of letting her sit alone and wait for him. If he knew all along he couldnt pursue something deeper with her....not yet atleast....they could have atleast had a real conversation about it. Poor Lois tried...and it was one sided as usual.

I love Clark to death...but when it comes to matters of the heart, he can be quite the dunce. "Hmm....Lois wants to meet me for coffee....If I go it means I like her. I DO like her...but I cant be with her...not now. Maybe I should let her know that now?? While she's standing here...so she doesnt waist her time and look like a fool... Naw...she'll figure it out when I dont show up." :rolleyes:

I believe that Clark wasn't sure what he was going to do for sure and made his decision after he saw Lois sitting at the table. He was probably debating with himself from the time he was invited and made up his mind just before he was going to meet up with her. Lois gave him an out and he took it after he thought about it and it was the best choice at this time.

[rooting 4 clark]

Why couldn't Clark just walk over and have a cup o' joe with Lois?? I mean they could have at least had a "welcome back discussion" over the coffee. They didn't have to venture into the heavy territory. I think a friendly Clois scene would have been better, but I guess the angst just keeps my Smallville addiction on high. Btw, I was totally tearing at the end.

[SuperheroFan87]

Wasn't the opinion on the boards that he shouldn't hook up with Lois right after "Requiem" because she would only be the rebound girl? Now everyone is upset, saying he doesn't care for her when he clearly does. He was sad at the end, he didn't want to push her aside but he did because he didn't want her to get hurt, he said she was special and all his intentions were centered around her well being.

People would have a point if his attitude was 'eh, so I didn't show up........who cares, she'll get over it'. An attitude like that would've made him cowardly and an all-around jerk, but you could clearly see in his face that he cares about her. Seriously guys, just give it some time, I promise things will work out for the better.

[dreamscometrue]

Lois and Clark aren't ready for a relationship. As much as I want to see them together, they just aren't ready......yet!

[Cogito17]

I agree with what Snowbird and Andigirl have said about him needing more space between pursuing Lois after the last episode with Lana.

Also, if there is one thing that his relationship with Lana taught him, its that keeping secrets keeps people apart. In an episode where he decided that he should keep his secret from Lois, I don't think it would quite make sense for him to jump into a situation where he would likely fuel his and Lois' mutual attraction. He saved her and himself from potentially reliving what he and Lana went through. He obviously felt bad about it, but felt it was the right thing to do.

Also, it's not like they made set plans. Lois was very casual in her offer, it was more of an "if you have time, I'm already gonna be there" offer, not a set in stone plan for them to meet. Clark didn't by any means stand her up, he simply said he didn't have time.

[supes0]

Why couldn't Clark just walk over and have a cup o' joe with Lois?? I mean they could have at least had a "welcome back discussion" over the coffee. They didn't have to venture into the heavy territory. I think a friendly Clois scene would have been better, but I guess the angst just keeps my Smallville addiction on high. Btw, I was totally tearing at the end.

I can't stand the angst,and I don't like the way this was done. However, I think I get what they're doing.

Lois gave Clark one last opportunity to explore the possibilities of having more than her. I thought the invitation to coffee meant more than friendship, it was to discuss what was bubbling underneath the surface.

I think Clark was planning on going until the very last minute when all his fears surfaced (including the recent Lana debacle) and he didn't know what to do. Should he go and tell her he just wants to be friends? That would be the mature, adult thing to do. The problem is, he sort of does want more but isn't sure what. And if he told her he just wanted friendship, he would be forced to live with that decision. So he ends up making a stupid, lame excuse so he doesn't have to make a decision. Not smart, but there you go.

When she texts back she wasn't there either, then and there he knew she was going to close the door and move on. And who can blame her? Now no matter what happens, Lois is the sympathetic point in any future triangle. Clark had his chance, and if he decides he made a mistake and realizes how much he loves her, odds are he is going to have a fight on his hands.

[EternalTwilight]

I'm mad that he stood her up but I get that they want to build it up so I'll appreciate the "journey".

[BWOracle]

Absolutely Not. Clark was saving people...what would you prefer Superman to do?

[tbird4u]

Wasn't the opinion on the boards that he shouldn't hook up with Lois right after "Requiem" because she would only be the rebound girl? Now everyone is upset, saying he doesn't care for her when he clearly does. He was sad at the end, he didn't want to push her aside but he did because he didn't want her to get hurt, he said she was special and all his intentions were centered around her well being.

People would have a point if his attitude was 'eh, so I didn't show up........who cares, she'll get over it'. An attitude like that would've made him cowardly and an all-around jerk, but you could clearly see in his face that he cares about her. Seriously guys, just give it some time, I promise things will work out for the better.

I think the point is that we all want to know how clark feels. We didnt want them to get together we wanted her walls up and clark to chase her. And here they go making lois all vulnerable again. At least I think thats what clois fans are feeling...correct me if Im wrong.On the up side though, I loved the end scene. To me it spoke alot about the way they feel about one another:D

[Y-V-R]

Clark couldn't even have coffee with her, he should just go follow Lana around like a wounded puppy because he can't go near her.

[curiosity]

He's insecure and PS3 are obviously stalling Clois.

Agreed. Chloe told him he was afraid of getting hurt, and using his secret as an excuse.

Chloe said that for a reason, it was to let the audience know why he didn't meet Lois. I think he's so afraid of getting hurt with Lois, because his feelings for her are so much stonger that what they were for Lana. IMO.

[MrZeppo]

I believe that Clark wasn't sure what he was going to do for sure and made his decision after he saw Lois sitting at the table. He was probably debating with himself from the time he was invited and made up his mind just before he was going to meet up with her. Lois gave him an out and he took it after he thought about it and it was the best choice at this time.

I totally agree!

Look I understand feeling bad for Lois, I really do. I really felt for her tonight because she was sitting at that table and was hoping to see Clark.

But I think Clark is being demonized a bit here and people aren't really seeing the big picture. He wasn't standing across the street to just look at Lois. He was tempted to cross that line tonight. That is what most people are ignoring or failing to see.

And he was tempted to do it, to go and sit at that coffee table.

But Lois deserves better. She deserves the truth from him, all or nothing. And to go and sit there after what happened in "Requiem" would make him look like a tool.

And truth be told that scene with Chloe in the street has her very pointedly point out that Clark has issues about putting himself out there and getting hurt. Because he is invulnerable to bullets, missiles, whatever... But beyond Kryptonite the only real way to get to him is to hurt him. And if he sat down with Lois and wrecked it like he did with Lana (look at how many times he messed up with her), I don't think he can bear it. That's why she's so special. Even if he just told her his secret right now, I bet he can't imagine it working out well for her. Yes he is scared about his feelings, but he's also scared about the consequences of Lois knowing the truth. Yeah, he learned she can handle it, but that's not his issue. He can't bear to see her get horribly hurt like he has seen protecting his secret hurt Lana and Chloe. It's too late for him to prevent the tragedies that befell them because they knew who he was, but he can still protect Lois.

I've always said Lois has an obvious effect on Clark few people do in his life. She gets through his defenses. She does things that cause him to really pause and be surprised. When she turned around and asked him on the coffee date, he was taken aback a bit, you could see it in his face. I don't believe by the time she walked away he had decided to go or not.

And many people think she was out of line to ask him on the date, but I would rather have her do that than to totally ignore the events of the almost-kiss in "Bride". And it's so Lois Lane like to basically point out the pink elephant in the room that both of them were avoiding talking about, which was the almost-kiss. And the way she did it was considerate I think, because they both admitted that they were unsure about the situation and she basically gave him an out because she gets it. It's a weird situation for both of them.

I guess in the end, as much as I feel bad for Lois I do feel equally as bad for Clark. At the same time, I think for now it's best that they just get closer and build more romantic tension between them because it's the anticipation of them getting together that I'm savoring right now. If it just started happening there really wouldn't be a need for Season 9 and it would be like, "That's it?"

[tbird4u]

^ You also have to remember when chloe brought up getting hurt that he changed the subject.

[Unsound]

Oh I'm upset about it for sure (mostly because I love Lois so much) but I can certainly understand why Clark did it. The fact that he was there across the street spoke volumes, even though he stood her up. He's torn so completely. He knows this isn't like his relationship with Lana in the past. Falling for Lois, starting something with Lois is... huge. And part of him knows that, and fears it because he doesn't want to hide who he is from her. But right now he has to. I get that. It doesn't mean I'm any happier about it, the scene really tugged on the heartstrings.

Lets not forget the fact that he's still hurting, and is certainly afraid to take a leap like that again... especially so soon. To do it now would be rushing it, I think. But the way the scene happened, he knows she was there waiting for him. So he knows the text she sent back was a lie, and he knows he hurt her. But he's got to become the man he's destined to be, now, and the man she deserves. Then, and only then, will they really move forward together.

Anyway, I know everyone has a different take on it, but that's mine. For me, the buildup to Clois is as exciting as Clois together. I hope they don't make it overly angsty, though. Which is hard considering they had Lois fall for Clark first... I want the two of them to retain that teasing, playfulness they always have around each other. I just wish Lois was around all the time. The episodes without her aren't the same.

[tbird4u]

I totally agree!

Look I understand feeling bad for Lois, I really do. I really felt for her tonight because she was sitting at that table and was hoping to see Clark.

But I think Clark is being demonized a bit here and people aren't really seeing the big picture. He wasn't standing across the street to just look at Lois. He was tempted to cross that line tonight. That is what most people are ignoring or failing to see.

And he was tempted to do it, to go and sit at that coffee table.

But Lois deserves better. She deserves the truth from him, all or nothing. And to go and sit there after what happened in "Requiem" would make him look like a tool.

And truth be told that scene with Chloe in the street has her very pointedly point out that Clark has issues about putting himself out there and getting hurt. Because he is invulnerable to bullets, missiles, whatever... But beyond Kryptonite the only real way to get to him is to hurt him. And if he sat down with Lois and wrecked it like he did with Lana (look at how many times he messed up with her), I don't think he can bear it. That's why she's so special. Even if he just told her his secret right now, I bet he can't imagine it working out well for her. Yes he is scared about his feelings, but he's also scared about the consequences of Lois knowing the truth. Yeah, he learned she can handle it, but that's not his issue. He can't bear to see her get horribly hurt like he has seen his secret hurt Lana and Chloe. It's too late for him to prevent the tragedies that befell him because they knew who he was, but he can still protect Lois.

I've always said Lois has an obvious effect on Clark few people do in his life. She gets through his defenses. She does things that cause him to really pause and be surprised. When she turned around and asked him on the coffee date, he was taken aback a bit, you could see it in his face. I don't believe by the time she walked away he had decided to go or not.

And many people think she was out of line to ask him on the date, but I would rather have her do that than to totally ignore the events of the almost-kiss in "Bride". And it's so Lois Lane like to basically point out the pink elephant in the room that both of them were avoiding talking about, which was the almost-kiss. And the way she did it was considerate I think, because they both admitted that they were unsure about the situation and she basically gave him an out because she gets it. It's a weird situation for both of them.

I guess in the end, as much as I feel bad for Lois I do feel equally as bad for Clark. At the same time, I think for now it's best that they just get closer and build more romantic tension between them because it's the anticipation of them getting together that I'm savoring right now. If it just started happening there really wouldn't be a need for Season 9 and it would be like, "That's it?"

OMG, Amazing post, If I could give karma I would give you alot. :D

[Iluvgreen]

As much as I wanted, and was praying that he would go over, and I'm kinda mad... I kinda am glad that he didn't because he still needs to get over Lana.... Even though I forgot her name after that episode and someone had to remind me what it was!

[supes0]

And here they go making lois all vulnerable again.

This really bugs me, but I get it. They're giving Lois very good reason to give up on Clark and not give him the time of day. The problem is, while it makes Lois look sympathetic, it doesn't make Clark look too good, yet again.

[Clark-Lois]

Absolutely Not. Clark was saving people...what would you prefer Superman to do?

He wasn't saving people when he went to meet Lois for coffee

And i can see now why they had Clark stand her up, but it doesn't make it any less harder to watch.

[AndiGirl]

I honestly dont think he was tempted though....
He had already told Chloe way before the coffee date that he and Lois couldnt be together. She tried to convince him to share his secret...and he wasnt budging.

So to me, it looked more like Clark just wanted to be with her.....from a distance. Quite like their actual relationship. He had no intention of crossing the street, but he also didnt just want to leave her there alone. So he went and watched her. I think its just a way for the writers to let us know that Clark wants Lois....but he just isnt willing to make the leap across the street yet. :(

----- Added 35 Seconds later -----

BTW... Alicia, I LOVE your Avi! It's gorgeous! :)

[LoisLaneJournalist]

i cried my eyes out!! in the last scene
i never have cried before on a show!
but now we know how clark feels for lois
but he just insecure he dont wanna hurt her

[tbird4u]

I think he was going to cross the street. I could see it in his face, its like he made the decision right then and there that he doesnt need to get involved right now. In any case that end scene was a tear jerker for me.

[supes0]

I honestly dont think he was tempted though....
He had already told Chloe way before the coffee date that he and Lois couldnt be together. She tried to convince him to share his secret...and he wasnt budging.

I think he was going to go, which is why he didn't call earlier to say 'no thanks', because it wasn't about him telling her who he was, so much as to talk about the changes in their relationship.

I think as he stood there he realized if he moved forward with Lois, he'd have to tell her everything, and that he didn't want to do. I also think the recent Lana debacle was fresh in his mind too, and he wasn't ready to move on with anybody.

The problem then becomes he'd have to verbally close the door and tell Lois he doesn't want to go beyond friendship. However, that isn't quite true either. So he took the out she gave him, didn't sit down so he wouldn't have to commit to a course of action.

[MrZeppo]

I honestly dont think he was tempted though....
He had already told Chloe way before the coffee date that he and Lois couldnt be together. She tried to convince him to share his secret...and he wasnt budging.

So to me, it looked more like Clark just wanted to be with her.....from a distance. Quite like their actual relationship. He had no intention of crossing the street, but he also didnt just want to leave her there alone. So he went and watched her. I think its just a way for the writers to let us know that Clark wants Lois....but he just isnt willing to make the leap across the street yet. :(

BTW... Alicia, I LOVE your Avi! It's gorgeous! :)

Well I don't think he said anything about being together, more like she can't know his secret.

And saying and doing are two totally different things. Just an example, I myself complain about the coffee I get in front of my building. At the same time, I always buy coffee from them everyday because I want my immediate fix in the morning as I take the subway to work. :)

I don't think he was just there to watch and text her. He could do that from his desk. I think he stood there because he was momentarily tempted to sit down. It's why he showed up. It's why he didn't just bail earlier. He doesn't need to spill the alien beans right away, but just sit down with Lois and then who know? But it's an all or nothing situation, I think he reminded himself of that as he stood there. He can't start down this road without telling Lois who he is, which he is afraid of doing.

But like you said so brilliantly in one of your earlier posts, it wasn't a "hey let's get together for coffee thing", it was a "coffee date". The understanding between Lois and Clark was that both of them showing up indicated both felt a desire to maybe approach what was going on between them. Clark standing there showed his hesitation and eventual chickening out because he's scared and also he is afraid that if he goes down this road and Lois learns his secret, she could get hurt like Lana and Chloe have been.

BTW, I agree Alicia, the avi is very cute. :)

[smallvillerocks45]

No. I'm not mad that he didn't show up, but I was hoping that the red/blue blur would show up in some Green Arrow-type costume and mask (like the one in Identity), and talk to Lois. I am really (to my pleasant surprise) excited about the Clark/Lois/Red-Blue Blur triange!

[scifigirl]

When I was watching that scene, I was screaming at Clark to go over to her. However, I think that it provided a clever way, without any dialogue, to show the viewer that they are both interested in each other. Clark just isn't ready to start anything.

[LovelyLoisLane]

He wasn't standing across the street to just look at Lois. He was tempted to cross that line tonight.

No he wasn't just standing there, yes he was tempted. I enjoyed your whole post by the way but I agreed with this part in particular.

From the composition of the shots, the choice for the set up and the song that played to it very much suggested that Clark was fighting with what he wanted to do and what he thought he should do.

I felt for both of them, and I just cannot see that last scene being one sided Clois at all. I've tried watching it from several angles and every angle makes me come to the same conclusion.

This didn't feel too fast paced. It felt just about right to me.

[MrZeppo]

OMG, Amazing post, If I could give karma I would give you alot. :D

LOL, you may not be able to give me virtual karma, but I accept real life karma. I'm glad my post made you happy. :)

[LUFC]

I see why people may be angry with Clark after standing Lois up and hurting her yet again, but thinking about it, i think for the short term he made a smart move. After the Lana debacle, he has every right to feel insecure and weary of proceeding with another possible relationship.

Of course it was sad that we had to see Lois all vulnerable and hurt again, while dodo Clark still seems to not have grown a proper pair.
But what we can gather from the last scene undoubtedly is that Clark definitely has deep feelings for Lois. I mean the guy is on some stalker vibe by standing from a far watching the woman he has deep feelings for. If anyone can understand what Clark is doing its me because i've done the same thing! Yes cowardly i know. Up until this day i still kinda regret that i didn't make my move. I had my insecurities as well and i would go so far as to say that the pair i had may have been even smaller than Clark's at that point in my life! :lol:

[MrZeppo]

No he wasn't just standing there, yes he was tempted. I enjoyed your whole post by the way but I agreed with this part in particular.

From the composition of the shots, the choice for the set up and the song that played to it very much suggested that Clark was fighting with what he wanted to do and what he thought he should do.

I felt for both of them, and I just cannot see that last scene being one sided Clois at all. I've tried watching it from several angles and every angle makes me come to the same conclusion.

This didn't feel too fast paced. It felt just about right to me.

I know! I actually felt the scene was perfect. Because after "Requiem" I wanted any Clois to be slow in progression and that's exactly what we got.

Looking at Lois sitting alone at that table, making the choice to want to continue what she has with Clark, it was heartbreaking. I can why a lot of people feel bad for her and are down on Clark. Because he was the one who made the choice and he got to see her there and she never saw him.

I think a lot of people look at what Clark did as horrible and insensitive, but the breakdown of the scene really pointedly shows Clark struggling. He wanted to go across the street, but he chose to do the right thing as he knew it and protect her because he cares about her.

[mr lane]

I see why people may be angry with Clark after standing Lois up and hurting her yet again, but thinking about it, i think for the short term he made a smart move. After the Lana debacle, he has every right to feel insecure and weary of proceeding with another possible relationship.

Of course it was sad that we had to see Lois all vulnerable and hurt again, while dodo Clark still seems to not have grown a proper pair.
But what we can gather from the last scene undoubtedly is that Clark definitely has deep feelings for Lois. I mean the guy is on some stalker vibe by standing from a far watching the woman he has deep feelings for. If anyone can understand what Clark is doing its me because i've done the same thing! Yes cowardly i know. Up until this day i still kinda regret that i didn't make my move. I had my insecurities as well and i would go so far as to say that the pair i had may have been even smaller than Clark's at that point in my life! :lol:

hey ash! i agree with you because being a guy i can see where clark is coming from and i've also had my chance but let it slide by only because i had been in other confusing hurtful relationships then you're not sure how to handle one of the good ones when they pop up

after being in a relationship where all you expect is anxiety and heart ache you dont know how to react to something that could possibly be the best thing youve ever had plus the deep settled feelings your ex left behind on your heart

im pretty sure clark's head would explode from all his thoughts and emotions

right now i think its a good thing he didnt walk up to lois at the cafe even though i wanted him to

it would make their relationship even worse if he tried to have something with her but still hasnt resolved his feelings about lana

[rooting 4 clark]

The one thing we all have to face is Clark is more complicated than all the elements on the Periodic Table combined, especially when it comes to Lois. Lois is so different from anything he's ever known and anything he will come to love, and so rushing that will mess things up and leave out a possible theme to season 9.

[LUFC]

I know! I actually felt the scene was perfect. Because after "Requiem" I wanted any Clois to be slow in progression and that's exactly what we got.

Looking at Lois sitting alone at that table, making the choice to want to continue what she has with Clark, it was heartbreaking. I can why a lot of people feel bad for her and are down on Clark. Because he was the one who made the choice and he got to see her there and she never saw him.

I think a lot of people look at what Clark did as horrible and insensitive, but the breakdown of the scene really pointedly shows Clark struggling. He wanted to go across the street, but he chose to do the right thing as he knew it and protect her because he cares about her.

Very insightful and ITA. This is what i meant when i said Clark was being smart.

[Carolina87]

Clark is more complicated than all the elements on the Periodic Table combined, especially when it comes to Lois.

^^^:D:D Hahaha so true!! I'm rewatching this scene as i type an I must say that it saddens me but I understand and deep down would have not wanted it another other away... at least for now. Its too soon as many have already pointed out. I just wish Lois didn't look so heart broken and if only Clark would show his emotions a little more ....

[superdoomsday]

I'm not MAD, but I sure am sad. Poor Lois. She looked heartbroken.

[LUFC]

hey ash! i agree with you because being a guy i can see where clark is coming from and i've also had my chance but let it slide by only because i had been in other confusing hurtful relationships then you're not sure how to handle one of the good ones when they pop up

after being in a relationship where all you expect is anxiety and heart ache you dont know how to react to something that could possibly be the best thing youve ever had plus the deep settled feelings your ex left behind on your heart

im pretty sure clark's head would explode from all his thoughts and emotions

right now i think its a good thing he didnt walk up to lois at the cafe even though i wanted him to

it would make their relationship even worse if he tried to have something with her but still hasnt resolved his feelings about lana

Hey Josh!

Yeah you've totally hit the nail on the coffin with your post right there man. I can totally see where Clark is coming from that's why i'm not that angry with him because i've experienced something very similar. Lois may have been made to look bad in that scene but i think that if you look beyond that, that scene is beautiful as it conveyed the true nature of both characters' feelings and how one another is limited/ restricted in achieving what the really want.

[TayLaneBloom]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..


yeah... right. :lol:

[mskingston]

I'm not mad at Clark. I thought it was a lovely scene. Lovely in that they were so close, yet so far...

Literally in the scene, demonstrated by Clark watching her from just across the street (compelled I must say, to go and see if she herself showed up. Why didn't he just text her from the office or home? Because he wanted to see her, and see that she was "there" IMO). Then Lois, unaware that he had indeed showed up, but just couldn't take that next step. Not yet. Ahh!

I thought her text back was so Lois. And I was glad she was on the defensive, and yet vulnerable still... because Clark knew the truth. I did feel awful for her but I think she comes away from the scene stronger for it. And that wall she'll put up will be one that Clark will need to break through one day, as only he can. As he's meant to.

Honestly, I thought it was a perfect end. A perfect setup for them. Heartbreak at its best and played perfectly by both Tom and Erica. After that, I'm so rooting for them!

[TayLaneBloom]

i'm not mad. i just feel really sad for Lois.
but i know in the end, everything works out just perfect... sooo....

i'm just really glad to see how much Lois really means to Clark, and how he realizes his feelings for her run deep.

he stood her up, but i think it was for the best.
i want him to be completly shure about his feelins for her before getting any way near to her in a loving way.

[the highlander]

He is a mess... A love like Lana wont be over soon. And although he cares one can know who you can fall in love with. Louis deserves better and he knows it. He needs to be Superman first... Louis is a super woman...

What made superman was not his powers.. .but his choices... Superman never lies... Clark does... When Clark becomes superman, he will be able to embrace another aspect of his life.

[Sunny8]

I'm not mad but I wonder why he did not take the out she gave him in the beginning. She said that they should just forget about what almost happened. He said that it is rather a complicated conversation. She said, then, that they should not over analyze it but if he wanted to meet her, or not, for coffee later she would be at the cafe. She seemed okay with everything going back to the way it was before the wedding but I think she thought he needed to talk about it. He made it seem like he wanted to talk. Why did he act that way but when the time came he stood her up? I don't get Clark. He should just leave Lois alone. He is too confusing.

[Kalista]

Or maybe Clark just wasn't interested..

It's possible that Clark intended to tell her that in person but he lost his nerve and decided to send the text message instead.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I'm not mad at Clark. I thought it was a lovely scene. Lovely in that they were so close, yet so far...

Literally in the scene, demonstrated by Clark watching her from just across the street

I feel exactly the same way and I'm not even a Cloiser . . . but I might be if they keeping having scenes this nice. I liked it better than the 'you ARE special' scene. Though that was nice too.

The last time I watched an ending of an episode this much was with Oliver and Lois in 'Wither'. Somebody better load it up on YouTube though so I can have my friends watch it.

I'm not mad at Clark either, and I certainly don't think he is enough of a bleep-hole to let Lois think he was going to go if he knew at the DP that he wasn't. I really think he thought about it but then just couldn't make himself go over there, whatever his reasons, so he just watched her sadly. He sent her a text message saying he couldn't make it, so it is obvious he wasn't going to just let her assume he wasn't going to make it when he didn't show up. And again if he knew from the get go that he wasn't going to meet her but just assumed she'd figure it out and had no interest or thought in going, he would not have been standing just across the street to watch her. There was no reason for him to do that unless he was thinking about going and he looked so sad as he stood there as well. He's had no problem telling people he wasn't interested before, he is gentle about it but he tells them. So I'm pretty darn sure it wasn't that. As someone else said as well, Lois also gave him every out to just forget that they almost kissed in "Bride" and just hang out buddy-buddy, she told him that going to have coffee wasn't a big deal *though obviously she really did want him to go, she just didn't want Clark to know she wanted him to go*, and he did not take the out that Lois offered.

Gosh, I love that scene. It makes me sigh, in a good way.

[superkgirl]

I have mixed feelings on this subject on one hand I was angry that Clark stood Lois up mostly because many people have been waiting for Clois to happen for a very very long time including myself and yet all we've seen is a kind of routine of Clana drama over and over and so now that Clana has finally ended its like finally, now we can finally have Clois and theres all this anticipation and then this happens and it sucked because I wanted this for Lois so bad because she put herself out there and then he stood her up I didn't like it but on the other hand for them to have met and all the sudden like started a relationship would have been not only abrupt but awkward the sudden change from almost eight years of Clana to Clois all the sudden would have been bad, besides I think there are other things that need to happen like Clark learning how to fly, actually becoming Superman, so I think it was a good choice even though I didn't like seeing Lois like that I think it was best.

[Reuben]

I'm not mad, Clark has been doing things like that for the longest time and we all know the reason why. Same old.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Played perfectly by both Tom and Erica. After that, I'm so rooting for them!

I forgot that I wanted to hit on this as well. I completely agree. Erica was beautiful in her more sensitive scenes. She's getting a lot better with her acting, not that it was ever awful, but she is getting very capable of speaking without saying a word. It is all in her face.

Tom Welling is just great when he has good material. With the last Clana scene in Requiem he didn't seem so great but I think that is because he had a hard time finding inspiration for how Clark was suppose to be feeling and I can hardly blame him. Here with the last scene, as with Erica, there was so much emotion in his face that having no actual dialogue in the scene worked beautifully. I found that I was touched, and that doesn't happen too often with this show, though it does happen. I felt everything Clark was feeling in that last scene and it is because of Tom's absolutely wonderful performance.

Oh and addendum for anyone that is curious, I have the lyrics for the song that played to this, which I really liked a lot. Usually I prefer more orchestral music without words, but this was nice.

Dreamer ~ by Uh Huh Her

You've seen the worst of me now.
I'm all alone, see?
You lost me somehow.
And what we're fighting for is peace.
Are you still in love with me?
Or someone else?

Well are you such a dreamer?
Put yourself in my shoes.
Careful what you wish for, love.

I've seen the worst of you too.
I let it go, see?
Because I have to.
And when I'm falling on my knees,
You'll take my hand in yours.
What will be, will be.

Well are you such a dreamer?
Put yourself in my shoes.
Careful what you wish for, love.

What's the matter with our ways?
I'm missing something,
Not to blame.
But don't you worry,
This will pass.
It's only cause my mind's been spinning
No control, I've lost my head.
All of this is just beginning.
Not enough,
Never enough.
I'll only want to keep on dreaming.

Well are you such a dreamer?
Put yourself in my shoes.
Careful what you wish for, love.
Well are you such a dreamer?
Put yourself in my shoes.
Careful what you wish for, love.

As for looking for meaning as to what might have been going through Clark's head in relation to the song, or who it pertains to more. I think it pertains to both of them, but I like words that suggest it is just confusing right now, but it will pass someday, and what will be, will be.

And the foremost topic of the thread, I just can't be mad at Clark for not going across the street. I love him and this scene about as much as I love Lois, which is to say . . . a lot. :D

[Mai4et0]

That's a song just for them !

And about that last scene, when it started and I saw Lois standing there all alone I had no doubts that the scene will end like they're talking sweet and everything but after secs later I got lost.. it was heartbreaking I cryed and I will cry again if I watch it ... damn it was a perfect scene!

[LovelyLoisLane]

That's a song just for them !

And about that last scene, when it started and I saw Lois standing there all alone I had no doubts that the scene will end like they're talking sweet and everything but after secs later I got lost.. it was heartbreaking I cryed and I will cry again if I watch it ... damn it was a perfect scene!


I think the song is very fitting, sometimes that isn't always the case with songs they pick.

I didn't cry but I did love it a lot and have no complaints.

[ginnyfan]

No. He's not ready.

[svtwamedfan05]

I was mad when it first happened. But as I thought about it. Clark is just not ready to take that step yet. He's doubting himself after all the mistakes he made with Lana he doesn't want to do that same thing with Lois because he cares for Lois alot more than he's ready to admit. However I still want to run to Lois and hug her because she still breaks my heart sitting there :(

[joemamma]

I'm not mad, Clark has been doing things like that for the longest time and we all know the reason why. Same old.

Exactly.

I'm honestly surprised at some of the reactions here, sure it sucks but is it really all that surprising? It's pretty consistent with how he's been written as of late... I mean, he's not just going to suddenly grow a pair out of the blue, it would be inconsistent with the nutless-wonder that is CK

[miks]

I just watched that last scene. Clark felt sorry for her! He went up there to tell her he didn't feel that way because in this ENTIRE episode whenever someone mentioned anything to do with Lois he just looked at them like they were crazy, even Lois. He didn't have the nerve to tell her off, and when she said she's chasing a lead and couldn't make it anyway he felt bad for her for lying. He realizes how she feels now and still isn't doing anything about it. That SCREAMS not interested, IMO.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

^^^ Well time will tell. :)

[Krypto_marcus]

I really liked that scene, at first I thougt "C'mom Clark, what are you waiting for?" But on second thought they aren't there yet, and since a season 9 is happening they don't have to rush their relationship wich is a very good thing.

[-Nora-]

I just watched that last scene. Clark felt sorry for her! He went up there to tell her he didn't feel that way because in this ENTIRE episode whenever someone mentioned anything to do with Lois he just looked at them like they were crazy, even Lois. He didn't have the nerve to tell her off, and when she said she's chasing a lead and couldn't make it anyway he felt bad for her for lying. He realizes how she feels now and still isn't doing anything about it. That SCREAMS not interested, IMO.

Or like Chloe said, it screams scared, which is way more likely.

[skugers]

No, he's too damn interested. That's the real problem. I give you 2 clues: he showed up and his clenched jaw. These 2 goodies explain it all. He could've just stayed home and send her a text abut the 'not being interested' thingie. Instead, he dresses up and arrives at the 'crime scene'. The clenched jaw is him fighting himself over his feelings. He wanted to talk to her and be at her side but he chose to protect her. He's scared to lose her in the future, because of his heritage. That's just love :D. Isn't it cute? Sad, but still cute :)

[Kal-ed]

I'm mad at how everything went down. All it took was Clark to pick up Lois from the airport for her to be just fine with everything that happened and for some ridiculous reason TPTB actually had Lois ask Clark out for coffee. Are you kidding me after everything that happened previously?

What exactly happened? we dont know if she knows about the Clana fiasco, so TPTB had nothing to have Lois being just fine with.

That said, i thought Lois would have her guard up, aparently she has a really OCC soft spot for the farm boy:\ .

[Gbah]

Yeah i was initially mad but then now i understand why.. Just like what most of u guys pointed out.
Anyway, clark eyes showed love man. Gossh it was sad but i loved it.

[Sports72Xtrm]

Ironic that it's actually Clark who puts his walls up and Lois is again burned for putting herself out there.:\

[skugers]

Ironic that it's actually Clark who puts his walls up and Lois is again burned for putting herself out there.:\
Yes and he has reasons to do that. As for her... That's the only chance he gave him. She'll not pine and not mope. She's after the RBB.

[Kal-ed]

I'm just furious that Lois actually asked Clark out. Where's the anger over what happened before she left? As for Clark, it was just coffee so I don't really see what the big deal is if he went, but that ending had angst written all over it.


Again, what happened before she left?? Lana came back? nothing wrong with that. He was worried about Lana and tried to hug her in the hospital? nothing wrong with that either, lets not forget Lois doesnt know what we know, plus something about Chloe´s words "you burried your self in hero work since Lana left" gave me the impresion that at least 2 or 3 weeks have passed since Lana left.

One more thing, Lois wanted to talk about what had happened, it wasnt a real date but the problem is that she did put herself out there and Clark chickened out.

Now, I have to say Im surprised about people´s reactions, I thought most of us Cloisers were on board the "please no Clois right after Lana left, she´s no rebound", aparently I was dead wrong. Im happy about this unexpected turn with Clois, it actually peaked my intrest, I so did not expect this, I expected TPTB to hit the breaks with Clois, I didnt expect them to do it this early on and in this way.

Lois asking Clark out after he turned back time is completely in line with her words in the alternate timeline, she´s not a quiter and there´s something about the way she feels about Clark that´s diferent; again I dont love the fact that she asked him out but IMO the fact that it wasnt a real date and that she has always seemed a bit more vulnerable when she´s around Clark, kind of made it not suck. And Im definetively happy Clark didnt bounce back with Lois.

[herolee10]

as much as I was sad to see Lois yet again heartbroken somewhat because of Clark's actions, I can understand where all of this is mostly come from, in a sense.

Okay, Clark had just gotten out of a serious relationship from Lana, yet again. And to make matters worse, the reason for their break up doesn't make things any easier for Clark. Clark's afraid of getting hurt again. I think the man is entitled to that feeling as is any other person. However, not only does he not want to get hurt again, he doesn't want to hurt Lois as well. Lois like he said is.."special" to him.

Clark honestly doesn't want to repeat the same mistakes he made with Lana with Lois. Yeah, I know, Lois is not Lana, far from it, but a lot of the mistakes Clark made were due to his insecurities dealing with his secret and whether it was for the better for anyone to know his secret.

Honestly, I bet you that if Clark had a choice, he would rather prefer that no one would really know about his secret.

I remember people saying that after the Clana arc, they wanted the progression between Lois and Clark to go much more slower because if things were to speed up between them so soon, then it wouldn't make either Clark or Lois look good, because Clark wouldn't like the honorable man he is, and Lois could come off as the rebound girl.

Lois if anything, is the first girl that he's really fallen for that started out as his friend/someone he couldn't originally stand around being...so that makes things more confusing for him, because he's never fallen for a girl who he viewed as a friend first.

If anything, I think Chloe's little talk with Clark at the end of the episode, really made Clark realize more that he does have feelings for Lois.

Also, given the fact that the producers have another season now, they need to slow down the Clois pace, I guess to their own reasoning. And it doesn't make matters better when you consider that Lois is gone for the next episode and mostly missing in Hex, so starting something now only to have Lois gone for quite awhile wouldn't help the pace.

Clark right now is where Lois was at in the beginning of the season. He's only now fully understanding what Lois really means to him, and is afraid to act on it.

Given the fact that Clark even got dressed for the occasion and was across the street from her, spoke volumes on the fact that he really did want to go, but froze at the last second.

I believe that as the episodes go on, Clark will realize that he cannot deny his feelings for Lois any longer, and he's going to have to ask himself if living a life without Lois thinking she's safe that way is better then Living a life with Lois and do his best to keep her safe.

[damara531]

The writers drive me crazy! He could've had coffee with her.....

See I've given this some thought since the episode aired tonight and while I was initially heartbroken at the ending...I came to realize that it was sort of necessary to end the way it did. Aside from the fact that I agree with so many other posts in this thread that it's too soon to jump headlong into a relationship...(as much as that's exactly what I may want for the characters), the truth is that neither one of them is ready to cross that threshold because I think both of them are already aware that it won't be JUST coffee. To borrow Lois's line from the barn scene, "This was different." What's growing between them is far more significant than any relationship they've had in the past, and I think both characters acknowledge the importance of that. And that both appreciate the need to enter into it free from any other baggage that they may be harboring. In short...I can wait a little bit longer to see their relationship blossom into the iconic love that both will eventually share. The wait will be totally worth it.

Just my thoughts...anyone else?

[Jaderoyale]

Suprisingly, i'm not.
I agree with your post above Stephanie. Its necessary. It was too soon. His face, showed heartbreak. He was torn. He needs to accept his destiny, or become more of the man he should be, before he embraces Lois ;)

[xrayvision]

See I've given this some thought since the episode aired tonight and while I was initially heartbroken at the ending...I came to realize that it was sort of necessary to end the way it did. Aside from the fact that I agree with so many other posts in this thread that it's too soon to jump headlong into a relationship...(as much as that's exactly what I may want for the characters), the truth is that neither one of them is ready to cross that threshold because I think both of them are already aware that it won't be JUST coffee. To borrow Lois's line from the barn scene, "This was different." What's growing between them is far more significant than any relationship they've had in the past, and I think both characters acknowledge the importance of that. And that both appreciate the need to enter into it free from any other baggage that they may be harboring. In short...I can wait a little bit longer to see their relationship blossom into the iconic love that both will eventually share. The wait will be totally worth it.

Just my thoughts...anyone else?

This is pretty much what I've been saying to a degree. I'm saying that Clark showed he cares for Lois by not rushing into it and making a mistake. He even said it in his own words that this is the reason why Lois is special.

Now there are a few things I haven't mentioned yet:

1. Lois left it open ended for Clark to join her or not, therefore her expectations shouldn't have been set high because she knew that there was a chance Clark wouldn't show up. She gave him that option.

2. I think the final scene was written incorrectly. It was written as if Lois knew Clark's secret. The scene should have been written without Lois being so gloomy that Clark didn't show up. I'm sure she had a lot of time to think about it since Bride and wouldn't be heartbroken if Clark didn't show up given that she didn't remember his secret. Now if she remembered his secret, that would be something. But the fact that in the current timeline, he never told it to her, she shouldn't have been that disappointed. Instead we should have seen her treat it like she did the events of Committed. What I'm saying is that if you erase the events of the timeline where Clark told her his secret, Lois doesn't have a reason to be that disappointed as she was at the end. Maybe at the end of Bride she did. But not now. She had too much time to think about it and a large buffer zone of being away from Metropolis & Clark. That's why I think the scene was written to be overly dramatic.

There was too much angst at the end of this episode. And the only reason for it is the events from the previous 2 episodes with Lana that made the writers come on strong with Clois in this episode.

They need to lay off the angst and let Clark prepare for Doomsday and build Lois up to being a great reporter. They also have to turn Clark into a great reporter. They have a season 9 to slowly build up Clois without making Smallville solely a love story, which I strongly don't want.

[RingzTerritory]

No I'm not upset by it, I would be upset if they pushed their relationship too fast, clark is 'normal' and scared of being hurt again and obviously had alot more on his mind now that he knows lois can handle his secret without turning into a nut case like lana or a glory hog like chloe.


I just watched that last scene. Clark felt sorry for her! He went up there to tell her he didn't feel that way because in this ENTIRE episode whenever someone mentioned anything to do with Lois he just looked at them like they were crazy, even Lois. He didn't have the nerve to tell her off, and when she said she's chasing a lead and couldn't make it anyway he felt bad for her for lying. He realizes how she feels now and still isn't doing anything about it. That SCREAMS not interested, IMO.

lol @ you.

And clark has shown interest in that stalker glory hog named chloe? LOLLL :lol::lol: she's like an obsessive little fan girl.

[Kal-ed]

No I'm not upset by it, I would be upset if they pushed their relationship too fast, clark is 'normal' and scared of being hurt again and obviously had alot more on his mind now that he knows lois can handle his secret without turning into a nut case like lana or a glory hog like chloe.



lol @ your denial.

And clark has shown interest in that stalker glory hog named chloe? LOLLL :lol::lol: she's like an obsessive little fan girl.


Your kind of new so you should know that saying someone is in denial is against rules, so I advice you to edit your post.

That said, I agree Clark looked scared, I guess the whole Lana thing was very recent and its only normal and completely understandable he would jump right into a nother relationship.

[wafflles87]

I saw it coming the second they set it up, but I'm still pissed.

Guess they had to stall Clois now that a Season 9 is in the works :rolleyes:

[queenelizabeth]

Just when I thought Clark couldn't get any dumber...poor Lois! This developing relationship is sometimes tough to watch because it is so emotional!

[luthorian]

It was stupid he had no reason to do that.

[Sarevokcz]

Even tho i mad at him and sad, i suppose its better that way, he shouldnt have try to jump into relationship with her right after Requiem.

also, i gotta admit, i did cry at the end, only other time that happened was Jonathans funeral.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Mad at him as a person.

But not mad that it happened.

[DontCha]

Clark learned two things in this episode.

1. He is not ready to be superman, he does not know how to handle it properly. He is starting to learn that he'll need two seperate identities, not just one in order to be exposed to the world.

2. Clark is not yet ready to love and be in a relationship with Lois Lane, he is afraid of it and is trying to hide from it, that doesnt mean he doesnt have feelings for her but he is afraid to love her and take things further. For him to have her completely, she'd have to know his secret and she doesnt.

BOTH of these things co-incide in perfect harmony, an until clark is ready to be superman he is NOT ready to love and be in a relationship with lois lane.

[Beauty_Karova]

Lois if anything, is the first girl that he's really fallen for that started out as his friend/someone he couldn't originally stand around being...so that makes things more confusing for him, because he's never fallen for a girl who he viewed as a friend first.

Hellooooooo and Chloe? ...was she a slice of beef? :rotfl:

Clarkie, what a chicken you are!

[Tompouce]

Perfect, it was so Clark and it fits with the Lana arc. Not too rushed. Perfect. Tom, if you play another scene like this, my heart won't beat in the same way anymore lol

[sithius]

ITA
It's way too soon for him to even think about another relationship.
I still think there were better ways to handle it...like talking to Lois in the DP, instead of letting her sit alone and wait for him. If he knew all along he couldnt pursue something deeper with her....not yet atleast....they could have atleast had a real conversation about it. Poor Lois tried...and it was one sided as usual.

I love Clark to death...but when it comes to matters of the heart, he can be quite the dunce. "Hmm....Lois wants to meet me for coffee....If I go it means I like her. I DO like her...but I cant be with her...not now. Maybe I should let her know that now?? While she's standing here...so she doesnt waist her time and look like a fool... Naw...she'll figure it out when I dont show up." :rolleyes:

I don't agree. Clark might not even realize his feelings for Lois yet, and he may have turned her down because he doesn't want to lead her on. He knows she has feelings for him, because she owned up to them before he put on the ring.

[skylar]

Perfect, it was so Clark and it fits with the Lana arc. Not too rushed. Perfect. Tom, if you play another scene like this, my heart won't beat in the same way anymore lol

so heartbroken

[jobookjunkie]

I'm not mad, I'm just really sad (hey, that rhymes!). It was a lovely scene, the way it was written and shot, like one of my comics :D AND, importantly, played so well by Tom and Erica. I can put myself in Lois' position - something almost happens, you go away, come back and casually suggest "coffee" in a take-it-or-leave-it kind of way, you get stood up SO pretend like it wasn't a big deal anyway. Poor Lois, trying hard not to let Clark know that she really wanted him to be there. I wanted to hug her! I think the fact that Clark showed up in the first place... he obviously has feelings for Lois, he remembers the other timeline where Lois found out his secret and accepted it BUT she got hurt beacuse of it. As always that scares Clark, when people get hurt because of him. Plus I don't think his head is in the right place yet after the whole Lana drama...and we all know Clark does things at his own pace. It says a lot about Lois and the depth of her feelings for Clark that his ex came back to ruin their almost kiss and she was away for a month or so but still was upset and disappointed that he couldn't make it for coffee. I think a full-blown romance at this point would smack of rebound on Clark's part and desperation on Lois', so I can wait ;)

[melissan02]

I'm not sure Clark realizes (STILL) just how much he hurt Lois on that dance floor, nor does he realize the depth of Lois' feelings (which I wish she didn't have!:mad:)!
His reasoning for stating, "Lois can never know my secret..." IS absolutely ridiculous!
I'm not liking the way his character has been written here lately. There was ONLY one point in last night's episode that I was proud of him, in which he looked supermanly, and that was his spill to Chloe about revealing his secret to the public. He made a decision and stuck to his guns. Yes, it backfired, but at least he made the decision and followed through!
This is completely a set up to the iconic triangle of Lois/Clark/RBB(Superman)....and while I'm happy TPTB are going the mythos route by doing this, I'm less than pleased that it will come across as angsty on Smallville. :(
This show continues to disappoint me....*sighs*

[Tompouce]

Ah Melissa, I thinks of you and Alania, I was pretty sure you would be upset for Lois and...hate Clark (lol). I am sure he knows. Look at him at the end, when he receives the sms, he seems upset, she lies to him, she makes like it was not so important after all...But he knows it is not true. He seems torn. Anyway, we all know it can be the right moment now. But to see Clark, so upset for Lois is a big clue. He knows something is going on between us. For sure. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[myankskent]

Again, what happened before she left?? Lana came back? nothing wrong with that. He was worried about Lana and tried to hug her in the hospital? nothing wrong with that either, lets not forget Lois doesnt know what we know, plus something about Chloe´s words "you burried your self in hero work since Lana left" gave me the impresion that at least 2 or 3 weeks have passed since Lana left.


The problem that I have is that Lois freaked out too much in the beginning over Clark not picking her up that I was actually hoping that her freak out had more to do with what went on prior to her leaving. But, I guess that she was just upset that he didn't pick her up. You're right, though. Since Lois doesn't know what happened when she was gone, it's hard for her to be that upset.




Now, I have to say Im surprised about people´s reactions, I thought most of us Cloisers were on board the "please no Clois right after Lana left, she´s no rebound", aparently I was dead wrong. Im happy about this unexpected turn with Clois, it actually peaked my intrest, I so did not expect this, I expected TPTB to hit the breaks with Clois, I didnt expect them to do it this early on and in this way.


I don't think that Clark meeting her for coffee would necessarily mean that he's just moving on to Lois. I was actually hoping that he would meet her there so that they can catch up and then he could explain to her that he's not ready for another relationship at this point. That would make Clark look mature and most importantly, it would eliminate the angst that quite frankly, I don't need to see with Clois since I've seen enough of it with Clana. YMMV.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I felt sorry for Lois....but in the end I was not mad at all. Lana just left and I don't want Clois rushed!

[Tompouce]

I don't think that Clark meeting her for coffee would necessarily mean that he's just moving on to Lois. I was actually hoping that he would meet her there so that they can catch up and then he could explain to her that he's not ready for another relationship at this point. That would make Clark look mature and most importantly, it would eliminate the angst that quite frankly, I don't need to see with Clois since I've seen enough of it with Clana. YMMV.
But Lois won't show angst towards Clark. She is too proud for that. She will act like it doesn't matter. Clark has made a choice. Okay. I don't think she will speak about it with him in the future episodes. I understand what you mean by Clark explaining to Lois he is not ready yet for another love story but they have to do it in this way otherwise the Lois and Clark story wouldn't be easy to tell;)

[skugers]

Look at him at the end, when he receives the sms, he seems upset, she lies to him, she makes like it was not so important after all...But he knows it is not true. He seems torn. Anyway, we all know it can be the right moment now. But to see Clark, so upset for Lois is a big clue. He knows something is going on between us. For sure. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Classic Lois behaviour. Covering her tracks in a embarrassing or hurting situation. She acts cocky, as like she is indifferent, she wants to be proud.
But the most important think is that he caught her in the act. In that moment he probably realized her feelings for him are very strong. And he seems surprised by how bad he feels because he hurt her.

[melissan02]

Classic Lois behaviour. Covering her tracks in a embarrassing oh hurting situation. She acts cocky, as like she is indifferent, she wants to be proud.
But the most important think is that he caught her in the act. In that moment he probably realized her feelings for him are very strong. And he seems surprised by how bad he feels because he hurt her.
I just didn't want him to realize how strong her feelings are for him in such an embarrasing way for her!:mad::(

[skugers]

I just didn't want him to realize how strong her feelings are for him in such an embarrasing way for her!:mad::(
I really feel your pain :(
But what can we do?!
I think he won't stand a chance with her for a veeery long time from now on....

[Tompouce]

I just didn't want him to realize how strong her feelings are for him in such an embarrasing way for her!:mad::(
I don't think Clark looks at Lois like a poor girl at this moment (though I understand exactly what you mean). I insist but look well at him, he feels hurt too by her answer. It destabilized him. To me, it is obvious. Plus, he is torn by the situation, he didn't want to hurt her but it is done. And we can't say he looks happy...He just go and focus on what he have to do with his destiny...

[melissan02]

I really feel your pain :(
But what can we do?!
I think he won't stand a chance with her for a veeery long time from now on....

I really, really, really hope that he doesn't stand a chance w/ her for a long time. I won't fret about it though...it'll be done...this is SV after all.:rolleyes::p:lol:

[Bizarrolover]

Though I felt sad for Lois, I think Clark did the right thing. It's too soon, specially for him. Lois also did the right thing, inviting him for a cup of coffee to talk about the almost kiss instead of brushing the matter under the rug, but, right now, Clark needs some time by himself to work his feelings first. he's not ready to move on yet, it's obvious.

I really liked that he was able to see her vulnerable side and how loyal Lois is during that time she shared his secret. Also, he knows she was waiting for him at the coffee shop, ready to give him a second chance and was wise not show up and encourage her into starting something he's not ready for. He hurt her and he knows it, and hopefully next time he'll be more careful with her heart. Maybe he should have showed up just for coffee and evade all the 'almost kiss' talk? Maybe, but this way he's not sending double messages or feeding false hopes. I think he doesn't want to repeat the mistakes me made with Lana. It was really frustrating to watch them in the earlier seasons, Clark not showing up at dates, then apologizing and trying to make it up for her, then breaking her heart (and his) again when things didn't work out only to start all over again. I don't want this to happen with Clois. I want them to start their relationship in a more healthy way. And I think that's what Clark wants, too, once he's ready to start his first adult relationship.

[melissan02]

Lois also did the right thing, inviting him for a cup of coffee to talk about the almost kiss instead of brushing the matter under the rug.
I don't think she did the right thing...or at least not the thing I wanted her to do. Should have been Clark to offer a cup of coffee to talk. They are friends, so coffee-talk shouldn't have been a big deal. I just didn't want Lois to put herself AND her feelings out there again! I expected stonger, higher walls for her.

[Tompouce]

I don't think she did the right thing...or at least not the thing I wanted her to do. Should have been Clark to offer a cup of coffee to talk. They are friends, so coffee-talk shouldn't have been a big deal. I just didn't want Lois to put herself AND her feelings out there again! I expected stonger, higher walls for her.
But maybe she wanted to make things clear. It doesn't mean she would have say to Clark she was in love with him. Maybe she would have try to know what he was thinking about the "almost kiss" before saying something about her feelings...IMO

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Though I felt sad for Lois, I think Clark did the right thing. It's too soon, specially for him. Lois also did the right thing, inviting him for a cup of coffee to talk about the almost kiss instead of brushing the matter under the rug, but, right now, Clark needs some time by himself to work his feelings first. he's not ready to move on yet, it's obvious.

I really liked that he was able to see her vulnerable side and how loyal Lois is during that time she shared his secret. Also, he knows she was waiting for him at the coffee shop, ready to give him a second chance and was wise not show up and encourage her into starting something he's not ready for. He hurt her and he knows it, and hopefully next time he'll be more careful with her heart. Maybe he should have showed up just for coffee and evade all the 'almost kiss' talk? Maybe, but this way he's not sending double messages or feeding false hopes. I think he doesn't want to repeat the mistakes me made with Lana. It was really frustrating to watch them in the earlier seasons, Clark not showing up at dates, then apologizing and trying to make it up for her, then breaking her heart (and his) again when things didn't work out only to start all over again. I don't want this to happen with Clois. I want them to start their relationship in a more healthy way. And I think that's what Clark wants, too, once he's ready to start his first adult relationship.
ITA:)

[FlashInSV]

I'm not mad. I am just sad. This was perfect. But too soon. Lana's mess is still evident. It's too soon.

[Krypton935]

Yeah definitely!! That was mean! I can't believe he did that.!!

[supes0]

I just didn't want him to realize how strong her feelings are for him in such an embarrasing way for her!:mad::(

I agree, but one can see where they're going with this.

MHO, through out the years Lois has always gotten an unfair rap. She's been accused of loving the powers, not the man. And that just isn't true, and unfair to Lois. Superman/Clark is never assigned any responsibility for the games he plays.

Pre-crisis, Superman was the personality, he pretended to be a washed out cowardly fool as Clark. Yet, every time he let Lois close enough to see he wasn't really that way, she would be drawn to him. Of course he would then sabotage himself and push her away.

Post crisis, of course, she falls for Clark without ever knowing who he is.

In Smallville, we *know* how much she loves him, she's recognized the love of her life, even if he hasn't.

She has opened herself up completely for him and he walked away. Twice. So now she needs to walk. Who is going to blame her for not giving him another chance unless he convinces her he loves her beyond reason?

She offered herself even knowing she would be rebound. His actions said "not interested". It was a very personal rejection because she knows he knew she was putting herself out there even after everything that happened.

When she texted him back with her face saving lie, he knew she was closing the door and was going to move on with her life. I think that's why he looked like that right before he left.

[LoveHurts38]

It was just a emotional ending for him of what he went through with Lois before the ring. Plus, it's being taken slow from the writers. To me was a good ending and with the song was a bonus.

Uh Huh Her - Dreamer *LYRICS*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yQDS8f1O9o

[Tompouce]

It was just a emotional ending for him of what he went through with Lois before the ring. Plus, it's being taken slow from the writers. To me was a good ending and with the song was a bonus.
Exactly. The song was a GOLD bonus, I can't stop listening to it;)

[mr lane]

It was just a emotional ending for him of what he went through with Lois before the ring. Plus, it's being taken slow from the writers. To me was a good ending and with the song was a bonus.

IA

even though it was a hard and sad ending it was the right one

and on a side note, i really liked Lois' Phone :lol:

[wafflles87]

Just for the look on Lois' face at the end, I want to beat all the insecurities out of him with a kryptonite shovel.

But I can't... not really.

He obviously cares for Lois, but once again, his secret gets in the way. I respect his growth however. Back in the early days, he wanted to be with Lana, but also keep his secret. This time, he chose to let Lois go (for now), not wanting a relationship based on lies.

But see, the thing is, the feelings are there. Now all he has to do is realize that he doesn't have to hide from Lois, and once he does that, rather soon, it would seem from spoilers the chase is on, because after giving him another chance, and being hurt AGAIN (here comes the urge to look for that shovel again), no way in hell is Lois going to just fall in line like a good little girlfriend when Captain Guilt finally decides to chuck all the excuses out the window and go for it.

[zar33n]

I'm not mad about the standing up part. He's not good enough for her. I'm mad that she actually initiated the meeting. She should just let him go and move on. I hope after this episode she does. I thought it was a bit OOC to have her wait all anxious-like. But when she responded with that txt, I thought it was very Lois. It just became really sad because Clark was there and he knew the truth =( After this incident, I truly hope she has her guard up completely.

[SupermanRox]

I'm frustrated but not mad.

[costas22]

After the events of Requiem he couldn't do anything else.Right now he can't give her what she wants.He didn't even arrange the meeting at the coffee shop.That was all Lois who by the way sort of told him that she wasn't expecting him to show up.Time is on their side guys,don't worry.At the moment we had to establish where they stand.I think it's a good place for now considering tha damage that Lana's return did.

[Wildfire]

Not only did I get mad but my brother who has no reaction to emotional stuff expect for to turn it off was ready to beat Clark and the writer's buts last night. But I do understand why they wont have him show up at this point.

[Bizarrolover]

I'm not mad about the standing up part. He's not good enough for her. I'm mad that she actually initiated the meeting. She should just let him go and move on. I hope after this episode she does. I thought it was a bit OOC to have her wait all anxious-like. But when she responded with that txt, I thought it was very Lois. It just became really sad because Clark was there and he knew the truth =( After this incident, I truly hope she has her guard up completely.

I disagree in some of your points. Lois is not resentful, she doesn't hold grudges against the people she cares about. She was ready to have Ollie back after what he did to her and was mature enough to end that relatioship in good terms when she realized it would never work. her breakup with Grant was also very mature. She loves Clark and she didn't want to miss this chance, but she moved too fast for him. In a way, she rushed things when she asked him for that cup of coffee, but that's Lois, she talks first, then thinks. I guess that the fact that he showed up on time at the airport (in the second timeline) softened her to him a bit. he was very gallant, helping her with her luggage, and what chick wouldn't like that? So, against her better judgement, she tried once again, even when it was not very wise to raise her expectations about him with the Lana fiasco so fresh in their minds (and ours).

I think that now she'll focus on the blur and while she won't be dismissive of Clark, she'll be rather distant. But, let's face it, Clark works across her desk so she's going to feel the butterflies whenever he shows up. I can't wait to see the RBB/Lois/Clark triangle to unfold. I'd love to see how Clark acts when he sees her infatuation with his other self.