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Alexander III
03-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!

eas
03-12-2009, 07:09 PM
I hope not.

Skaterpen357
03-12-2009, 07:11 PM
No. Lana was naggy. Lois is just disappointed, and maybe not even at Clark. It's hard to watch, but it makes her that much better and relatable.

melissan02
03-12-2009, 07:12 PM
They (TPTB) had better not have Lois do anything Lana did!!!

I can't stand that we saw weak Lois!! ANd that Clark did too!! :mad:

Supsfan
03-12-2009, 07:13 PM
That's the feeling I got, they have to play up the dramatics for the sake of drama. Can't Clark just man up for a change

Lost Son of Krypton
03-12-2009, 07:13 PM
LOL, I made a similar post in another thread. Lois is actually Lana 2.5. What started as a kick ass season is slowly heading down hill. Again.

dcf
03-12-2009, 07:14 PM
It's really turning into Clana drama tonight... through the scene at the coffee shop that's all I could think of. She's losing her edge. They need to keep her strong. Part of the fun of Lois and Clark is when Clark is not exactly sure how she feels and the humour in having her write him off as a dork but if she only knew who he really was... now her heart is being spilled out in front of Clark and he knows he can have her but he's hurting her-he has the upper edge and there's no challenge. There's not that light-hearted love-hate banter between them.

Hope this makes sense-I just blurted all my thoughts.

Loisdragon
03-12-2009, 07:14 PM
we better not

rebecavaldez
03-12-2009, 07:16 PM
NO!! She is so much better and reacts better than Lana did!

Lost Son of Krypton
03-12-2009, 07:22 PM
NO!! She is so much better and reacts better than Lana did!
She started off that way, but the question is, will she stay that way.

dcf
03-12-2009, 07:23 PM
She started off that way, but the question is, will she stay that way.

Exactly-I hope they don't ruin her character like they did Lana's

individuall
03-12-2009, 07:31 PM
They better not make my Lois into Lana 2.5..I just can't handle that...And I hate you people for putting that thought into my head..Ew.

I think Lois is now at her limit (and I'm going off spoilers here) I think she'll be throwing herself into work and going after the RBB and completely ignoring Clark... But that's just what I think will happen..I hope I'm right..

Minela
03-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Lois was understanding when Clark wanted to change time and said he wouldn't share his secret. Lana would have not understood, she would have badgered him about the secret and whined and moped until she drove him crazy.

Lost Son of Krypton
03-12-2009, 07:33 PM
They better not make my Lois into Lana 2.5..I just can't handle that...And I hate you people for putting that thought into my head..Ew.

I think Lois is now at her limit (and I'm going off spoilers here) I think she'll be throwing herself into work and going after the RBB and completely ignoring Clark... But that's just what I think will happen..I hope I'm right..

LOL, I hope you're right too!

skylar
03-12-2009, 07:37 PM
They (TPTB) had better not have Lois do anything Lana did!!!

I can't stand that we saw weak Lois!! ANd that Clark did too!! :mad:

Thats the part that sucks so much

davidbrenton
03-12-2009, 07:37 PM
Oh, don't even start bashing Lois now that she's front and center. Swear to god, I get soooo frustrated sometimes....first with Chloe now that the spotlights on her and now with Lois. It's as if the only way to people content is to keep cast members in the background.

Booh!

individuall
03-12-2009, 07:39 PM
Lois was understanding when Clark wanted to change time and said he wouldn't share his secret. Lana would have not understood, she would have badgered him about the secret and whined and moped until she drove him crazy.

That too. Lois is always the first one to blame herself than to blame someone she cares about...That's been a really underplayed, but constant trait she's had...And it's why I love her

Lana was always the first to point fingers at others especially at Clark...It was always the world's fault...Never hers..That always irked me..And I'm not a Lana hater..But that was just something about her character that rubbed me the wrong way...
But this isn't about Lana it's about Lois so carry on!

Supsfan
03-12-2009, 07:39 PM
Oh, don't even start bashing Lois now that she's front and center. Swear to god, I get soooo frustrated sometimes....first with Chloe now that the spotlights on her and now with Lois. It's as if the only way to people content is to keep cast members in the background.

Booh!

I am a Lois fan and I think the show is making much unneeded angst this episode. I am not sure which character comes off worse, Clark or Lois

I_am_LEX
03-12-2009, 07:41 PM
The thing about the RBB is that Clark will realize that he can tell Lois everything and he doesn't have to lie at all. That's what this is heading to, then eventually she'll change his name to the one we know.

Alexander III
03-12-2009, 07:45 PM
I am a Lois fan and I think the show is making much unneeded angst this episode. I am not sure which character comes off worse, Clark or Lois

Oh definitely Lois. She was away the whole time avoiding Clark and now she's back and within seconds, she's emotionally stabbed again by Clark (coffee scene). Sux to be a lois fan at this very moment, nope not me, but to u lois fans out there.

dreamsofnever
03-12-2009, 07:45 PM
No, Lois is not going through the same phase. Clark is the one who still hasn't learned after all these years.

Now, I didn't want them to jump straight into the Clois, but the "I can't tell her because she's special" thing is retarded and the kind of logic that isn't.

Can't the writers come up with something else to stall the Clois like, say, Lois having her walls up and shutting Clark out because he dropped her like a hot potato when his ex came back?

Honestly, we've seen this story before. I want to see Clark as a character grow. *sigh*

WildGoatTamer
03-12-2009, 07:54 PM
There was way to much angst in this episode! It's turning Lois and Clark into Lana clones! :P

MrZeppo
03-12-2009, 08:03 PM
I voted yes because Clark being afraid to tell Lois his secret to protect her smells of Season 2-3 Clana.

This is more enjoyable though because this romance angst isn't about secrets and lies. Lois isn't preaching to Clark about telling him everything, because she is more independent than Lana was in S2.

dunkman
03-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Lois handles it much better than Lana did, & I actually care about her feelings! I was just annoyed with Lana--& with Clark for never letting her go.

susangail
03-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Regarding the original question, yes. This is Lana all over again! PULEEZE.

bychance
03-12-2009, 08:26 PM
They (TPTB) had better not have Lois do anything Lana did!!!

I can't stand that we saw weak Lois!! ANd that Clark did too!! :mad:

What weak Lois? If you mean by having any other emotions like vulnerability is bad? She's human.

Lilah
03-12-2009, 08:27 PM
No cause now he knows how she'll react... He knows she's no Lana

Supsfan
03-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Regarding the original question, yes. This is Lana all over again! PULEEZE.

I think the reference to it being Clana-esque means that they building up angst for no reason at all. Clark could have went for a coffee and had a nice chat with her, instead he bottles up his feelings(see first 6 seasons of Clana) and runs away.

thehenry89
03-12-2009, 08:28 PM
Not even close. Lois is Lois and Lana is Lana, it's like comparing apples to passion fruit.

myankskent
03-12-2009, 08:32 PM
I think the reference to it being Clana-esque means that they building up angst for no reason at all. Clark could have went for a coffee and had a nice chat with her, instead he bottles up his feelings(see first 6 seasons of Clana) and runs away.

Exactly. That's what bothers me. To top it off, we have Clark, yet again, telling us that he can't tell another girl his secret. It's just the same garbage all over again.

To be honest, I think that Clark should've met Lois for coffee to at least tell her that he wasn't prepared to start another relationship at this point. They had already avoided each other for 4 episodes so it was time for a talk. It still bothers me that Lois will never find out what happened between Clana. I think that "Infamous" really highlighted why this is something that should be a huge deal because had Lois known what went on, it's really hard to believe that she would've asked Clark out for coffee.

bigvillir001
03-12-2009, 08:33 PM
NO its not the same because their Lois-Clark and you could in that last scene both were hurting i think their just not there yet you know. clark saw what happen and he knows she special and stronger then lana every was but like clark said the world is not ready yet chlo was right as wel now Lois and Clark are both hurting cause is starting to Lois as somthing he cant lose so be friends is all they can be for nowl

Dyanara
03-12-2009, 08:36 PM
Thats the part that sucks so much

I hate that also. Why can't she be strong and get over this idiot! She's turning into Chloe!

Supsfan
03-12-2009, 08:36 PM
NO its not the same because.....

It is the same because the writers on this show love there romantic angsty tension and will find anyway to put it in the show. Can't they just show Lois and Clark having an angst free relationship somehow.

They didn't need to show Lois upset that he didn't tell her the secret, they didn't need to see her practically crying when he said he would reverse time and not tell her and they didn't need her to be bumbling in the last scene and Clark stand her up. If they were good writers they would find ways to have them communicate in a more normal way

Part of the reason I like Lois is because most her plots were devode of this angsty crap and for the most part Clark seemed happy (or at worst annoyed) when she was around. So instead of showing Clark in a happy "fun" relationship they will just resort to Clana V.2 with Lois and Clark.

melissan02
03-12-2009, 08:38 PM
I hate that also. Why can't she be strong and get over this idiot! She's turning into Chloe!

:eek: I shudder at the thought! I agree though...sadly, but I agree.

boredonenight
03-12-2009, 08:39 PM
I've been looking forward to this episode for so long... I have to say, I'm glad that they didn't work things out, but I'm completely disappointed the way it was handled. Yes, I think it wreaks of Clana so I hope this is the last of it. I don't like seeing Lois sad. She's the one you can count on to be entertaining and she deserves so much more than their separation being dramatized at her expense. I hope they introduce someone into her life that just makes Clark completely and insanely jealous. I'd rather watch that.

susangail
03-12-2009, 08:39 PM
I think the reference to it being Clana-esque means that they building up angst for no reason at all. Clark could have went for a coffee and had a nice chat with her, instead he bottles up his feelings(see first 6 seasons of Clana) and runs away.

Yup. As someone said on another thread, it was just coffee.

petewillreturn
03-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Nope. She will move on and fall for another guy. The blue blur.

theotherJane
03-12-2009, 08:40 PM
If they're turning her out to be a pining Chloe no. 2, PS3 is going on my Sh*t List, stat.

I hope she forgets about Clark for now and moves on, that way he'll realize what he lost. The last thing I wanna see is her willing to wait for him forever.

Nerwen Aldarion
03-12-2009, 08:41 PM
This is totally different from Lana and this episode made that very clear. Clark didn't tell Lana his secret because he didn't think she would understand. He already made it clear to Chloe that he knows Lois will understand, he isn't telling her his secret because of some High school "she won't understand me" drama. He is keeping a secret from her because he wants to protect her, he saw what would happen if she knew the truth and the danger he put her in was not something he could face again. How many times has Chloe gotten in troube because of his secret, he even tried to wipe her memory because of it. The idea of willingly putting Lois through that terrifies him and shows his much deeper feelings from her. He is sacrificing what he wants in order to protect her. That is true heroism, mature, and is also darn romantic

melissan02
03-12-2009, 08:43 PM
If they're turning her out to be a pining Chloe no. 2, PS3 is going on my Sh*t List, stat.

I hope she forgets about Clark for now and moves on, that way he'll realize what he lost. The last thing I wanna see is her willing to wait for him forever.

Amen!

myankskent
03-12-2009, 08:45 PM
The last thing I wanna see is her willing to wait for him forever.

I don't think that she will, but I wouldn't be surprised if we get one of these situations where Clark is about to tell her something important and then pulls away at the last second. If this kind of thing happens, then yes, Clois is officially the new Clana. That's why a season 9 is very scary.

Cellist
03-12-2009, 08:45 PM
I hope they introduce someone into her life that just makes Clark completely and insanely jealous.

Ha! I don't know that I'd want that, but it'd be really interesting.

individuall
03-12-2009, 08:48 PM
I don't understand how Lois is acting like Chloe or Lana..She wasn't piney or whiney.I think she was disappointed more than anything.
I mean I wasn't really thrilled with the fact that she asked him out for coffee, at first. But I think it was a really mature thing for her to do. She even mentioned what almost happened between them in Bride and was willing to face her feelings. Which is really hard for her. By asking him out for coffee she basically said "if you want me come and get me" and if you don't...That's Ok...I get it. Done. Check. Over. Moving on.

But that's just what I got from the scene...My own interpretation...*shrugs*

boredonenight
03-12-2009, 08:50 PM
There's usually nothing better than a little competition, if you really want something, or in this case, someone.... May the best man win ... where did that come from anyway?

alma
03-12-2009, 08:51 PM
Lois is nothing like Lana. She will pick herself up and move on, that's why we love Lois so much. Lana would just feel sorry for herself.

latingirl
03-12-2009, 08:55 PM
NO way!!!

Now i understand why she is not in more episode, she is taking time and space between them (Clark and her), she knows she is so vulnerable now, and she needs to build up her walls, she gave today the opportunity to Clark fix the mess, He looses and that it's...

Clana4Life
03-12-2009, 09:06 PM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!


You hit the nail right on the head. I find it strange that Lois didn't even ask him about what happened between him and Lana. What would have happened if they had met for coffee and discussed the almost kiss. Would she just forget to inquire about the status of his relationship with Lana? Strange...

ClarksGal
03-12-2009, 09:23 PM
I think that Lois will handle it differently. At least I hope so.

Alicia Chipy
03-12-2009, 09:42 PM
The great thing about Lois is that she brings out the best in Clark and makes him smile.I don't want that ruined by Clanaish angst.

jmf1977
03-12-2009, 10:07 PM
Exactly. That's what bothers me. To top it off, we have Clark, yet again, telling us that he can't tell another girl his secret. It's just the same garbage all over again.

To be honest, I think that Clark should've met Lois for coffee to at least tell her that he wasn't prepared to start another relationship at this point. They had already avoided each other for 4 episodes so it was time for a talk. It still bothers me that Lois will never find out what happened between Clana. I think that "Infamous" really highlighted why this is something that should be a huge deal because had Lois known what went on, it's really hard to believe that she would've asked Clark out for coffee.

ITA with this above post and your other post on page 3. I would love for someone to explain to me why Clark feels that Lana and now Lois (women he had/would have romantic relationships) can never know his secret and why it's perfectly OK for Chloe to know. If any bad person on this show wanted to get the goods on Clark, then going after Chloe, his best friend, would be obvious. I'm surprised that Lex left Chloe alone once he found her in some hospital out in the middle of nowhere after she followed Clark to the FS. I'm not bashing Chloe, but it feels like we've been on this ride before.

Re the ending, I'm OK with how it ended, although again it did make Clark look weak. But what worries me is the direction the end of this season is taking. I understand that you have to keep these 2 apart till S9...but hopefully there will be some meaningful exploration as to why these 2 will end up together. I want to see something deeper and more emotional...not just end it where these 2 end up together bc that's the way it is.

colibri
03-12-2009, 10:13 PM
No, I really didn't get that. There was angst but very typical of the sort in the comic books between Clark and Lois before they get together and he tells her his secret. It's not really like Lana's. I also think this is a set-up for the triangle for 2 which I think will have a very different feel than Clana. Also, Lois' reactions are very different that Lana's.

cygnusx1
03-12-2009, 10:22 PM
after watching this it feels like bizarro clana. i'm not sure clark thinks he can live up to lois' image of him.

clois-destiny-forever
03-12-2009, 10:25 PM
No, I really didn't get that. There was angst but very typical of the sort in the comic books between Clark and Lois before they get together and he tells her his secret. It's not really like Lana's. I also think this is a set-up for the triangle for 2 which I think will have a very different feel than Clana. Also, Lois' reactions are very different that Lana's.

Yeah, I feel this is more typical of Clark and Lois than Clark and Lana. Don't forget, no one can dance around each other in a triangle for 2 like Clark and Lois.

svtwamedfan05
03-13-2009, 12:49 AM
Nope. Lois is no Lana and thank God. Lana would bug and bug until she got her way. Lois is alot more mature and knows not to be like that.

Imzadia
03-13-2009, 02:02 AM
No! Although, I must add, 'I hope not', because Lois Lane's character and personality is Emotionally Different from Lana's. She doesn't React the same, relate to others the same, or even express her feelings in the same way as Lana did. :rolleyes: I admit that Clois in this episode showed all the signs of the angst of Clana, but Lois won't 'live' in it the way Lana did. She'll never stop moving forward, and Clark will be hard pressed to keep up, and Yes, this is a Prediction. ;) I also think that Clark will Respond differently to That and to her. I'm hoping he doesn't make the Same mistakes with Lois that he made with Lana and actually Learned from those mistakes. In the past, his track record hasn't been too good in doing that, though. :\

skugers
03-13-2009, 02:20 AM
No!
After the coffee shop scene she'll just pull away and move on... She gave him only one chance, now she's over it (or at least she wants to convince herself about that). She'll not pine, she'll not mope. She's coming after the RBB guy :D

damara531
03-13-2009, 02:27 AM
I don't think so...personally I think that the character of Lois Lane is a much, much, much stronger character than Lana Lang. She has a definite drive and a much more compelling depth to her personality. But that's just my personal opinion.

Jaderoyale
03-13-2009, 02:31 AM
Noooooooo she is not!
How can you suggest such a thing? :lol:
I agree with what Kaitlyn said on the first page; after this, Lois is going to be throwing herself into her work. When did Lana ever do that?

SCaL4ever
03-13-2009, 04:33 AM
It really hurt my heart to see Clois acting so much like Clana. I found it unbelievebly painfull to watch.:(
This episode made me feel like the writers don't now how to write romance without all the Clana angst. They are just repeating themselves.

I Lois doesn't move on after this and forgets about Clark i will... I don't know what i will do, but i do know that i will be very dissapointed.

blackcelebration
03-13-2009, 05:05 AM
Come on guys and gals.

The first time Lana found out in Reckoning she got herself killed. :\

The second time in Phantom she faked her own death. :lol:


At least Lois lasted near enough an entire episode without dying or faking her death. :rotfl:

Besides what was Lana's occupation other than swindling money from millionaires? :D

Hopefulsuicide
03-13-2009, 05:10 AM
Lois cannot be compared to Lana... even if they did the exact same storylines, Lois' lines would still be snarky and her portrayal by Durance would make it shine.

DontCha
03-13-2009, 05:33 AM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!

but this time he kknew he did and it pained him :(

myankskent
03-13-2009, 07:04 AM
ITA with this above post and your other post on page 3. I would love for someone to explain to me why Clark feels that Lana and now Lois (women he had/would have romantic relationships) can never know his secret and why it's perfectly OK for Chloe to know.


To be fair, I don't think that Clark wants Chloe to know either. That's why he took her memory from her in "Abyss" and Chloe getting her memories of Clark back were not his doing. I think that as far as Chloe is concerned, what's done is done. She knows Clark's secret already so there's really nothing that Clark can do at this point to change that.

Bizarrolover
03-13-2009, 08:23 AM
Lois is not going through a Lana phase. She didn't say the words 'secrets and lies' yet. Hopeffully, she never will.

LoveHurts38
03-13-2009, 08:26 AM
He is just not sure how to react right now.

MountainSniper
03-13-2009, 08:54 AM
So get over it and turn yourself in Mad Dog Lane!

Lana Lang being the big love interest for eight years in the Smallville universe was nothing more than a bump in the traditional Superman mythos compared to what they are doing to Lois Lane.

Everyone knew Kristin Kreuk was going to be going on to bigger and better things so it was inevitable that Lana Lang would disappear from the Smallville universe but why would Kristin Kreuk leaving mean "the powers that be" suddenly decide to turn the traditional Superman/Lois/Clark triangle completely upside down?

Ok let Clark sob for the rest of the eighth season over losing Lana to Lex’s evil plan to destroy the future of the star crossed lovers but that is not an excuse to start screwing up Lois Lane.

I get that Clark is going to take a long time to get over the loss of Lana Lang so naturally keep him out of romantic relationships but doesn’t this also mean "the powers that be" now have the perfect opportunity to have Clark bury himself in his work at the Daily Planet to establish himself as a top flight reporter in Metropolis?

Shouldn’t Lois Lane being doing the same thing career wise at the Daily Planet to kick off her reputation as “Mad Dog Lane” the “Go To” reporter for the big stories in Metropolis?

Even without Superman in the picture Smallville would be hilarious with clever sarcastic banter in a hectic news room with Perry White baiting them against each other as we all watch Clark and Lois fight be the top reporter of the Daily Planet.

The powers that be could introduce Mayson Drake as the Metropolis assistant district attorney who falls in love with ‘hurt, wounded and twisty’ Clark while Lois claims Clark is leading Mayson so he can scoop the big news stories.

Or they could bring in the DEA agent (forget his name) that falls for Lois Lane and then Clark could be the one that accuses Lois of just playing the DEA agent for the inside track on braking stories.

And there could be endless funny episodes where Clark uses his powers to get the story first and it drives Lois Lane crazy because she can’t figure out how Smallville the hayseed is scooping the big stories in “her town” Metropolis.

Instead they have a silly love sick Lois Lane pinning after an indifferent, damaged Clark Kent that is in love with someone else.

What is up with that?

Does a single person on the K-Site think that Clark wouldn’t have been across that street in a nanosecond if it had been a cured Lana Lang that invited him for a coffee? Let him get over losing Lana Lang for the rest of the season and then start it off clean for the ninth season.

Lois Lane shouldn’t be in love with an indifferent Clark Kent. Just put the romance stuff on hold for the rest of the season and work on the reporting rivalry.

Then gradually over the ninth season Clark should develop feelings for a completely indifferent Lois who is all primed up to fall in love at first sight with Superman.

Then you set up the classic triangle where Lois is in love with Superman and treats Clark’s unrequited love for her like something she found on the bottom of her shoe.

Hilarious high jinks are sure to follow!

For crying out loud it worked for fifty years so why oh why did the Smallville universe change it to a love sick Lois Lane heartbroken over being stood up by an indifferent Clark Kent?

For the rest of Smallville just show me the back story for “Mad Dog Lane” rather than this love sick patsy who is mooning over the farm boy hick that she is supposed to treat like crap as he chases after her.

Is that too much to ask?

Cheers Mountain Sniper

melissan02
03-13-2009, 10:50 AM
He is just not sure how to react right now.

I'm sure Chloe will coach him along then.:rolleyes:

SupermanRox
03-13-2009, 10:56 AM
I think that Lois is a much stronger person than Lana and she is definitely more self sufficient. I think that is what makes her perfect for Clark.

DGirlLois4Clark
03-13-2009, 11:07 AM
Oh hell no!

Lois and Lana are too different characters:p

scottman31486
03-13-2009, 12:05 PM
He's handling the Lois situation the exact same way as Lana. i cant be with you, but ill pine for you from afar for like 2 seasons then well get together. Getting rid of Lana (Thank god) should have had him move forward, but hes doing the exact same thing. Whats wrong with coffee!!!??? Give me a break, just date her! getting tired of him always tiptoeing around women.

dreamsofnever
03-13-2009, 12:24 PM
He's handling the Lois situation the exact same way as Lana. i cant be with you, but ill pine for you from afar for like 2 seasons then well get together. Getting rid of Lana (Thank god) should have had him move forward, but hes doing the exact same thing. Whats wrong with coffee!!!??? Give me a break, just date her! getting tired of him always tiptoeing around women.

Welcome to K-site, Scottman!

And thank you for saying this. I think the same thing. It's not Lois that is Lana 2.0, but CLARK that is doing the same old stuff again and not showing any growth as a character or any desire to move forward and learn from his past mistakes. :rolleyes:

ClumsyGRL
03-13-2009, 12:34 PM
hell no!!! she's soooo much better than lana!!!!!
yes she was hurting, she's not a robot, she has feelings!!!!!!the point is, lois allowed herself to hurt for like 3 seconds then she was "the" Lois lane again, and i saw her wall building up and up, like normally!!!! lana would stood in that cofee shop for like a year crying like a baby if necessary...

Vindellavon
03-13-2009, 04:14 PM
I think the Lanation period just started. Clark seems to have fallen for her slightly, but of course, he'll stall, so Clois will stall. Not that I'm disappointed.

Kal-ed
03-13-2009, 04:23 PM
What i dont get is exactly what was it that made Clark so sure that Lois must not know?? He said "all of this made one thing clear, Lois could never know who I really am". Where did that come from?? how was it made clear in the original timeline:confused:

Actually the only real reason is the one Chloe talked about Clark protecting himself.

Anu
03-13-2009, 04:26 PM
No way! Lois is special: she's strong, and dosen't get all tired eyed like Lana. I love this character so much! And this episode just made me realize how much I really did miss her. And btw screw Lana, I don't even want to think about her anymore!

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----

Yeah, I still can't understand why Clark couldn't tell Lois his secret? Is it because she would be in trouble? Like the government was after her, okay than I would understand. But she's stronger than that, she can take care of herself, oh so mad I get at Clark!!

LovelyLoisLane
03-13-2009, 07:57 PM
In the words of Lois . . . "Oh, Hell no!"

:D

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


What i dont get is exactly what was it that made Clark so sure that Lois must not know?? He said "all of this made one thing clear, Lois could never know who I really am". Where did that come from?? how was it made clear in the original timeline:confused:

Actually the only real reason is the one Chloe talked about Clark protecting himself.

Yeah that confused me too, and it wasn't made real clear. But after watching his scene with Lois at the barn and then the one with Chloe and the scene at the very end, I honestly think it is a mix of him thinking her too special to endanger with his secret (a very common problem in superhero romances these days that annoys me, but oh well) and being insecure about the feelings he is just starting to become aware of.

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He's handling the Lois situation the exact same way as Lana. I cant be with you, but ill pine for you from afar.

Clark's 'pining' of Lana was not in itself the problem, it was the effect of not even knowing Lana so he contented himself from admiring her beauty with a telescope. The problem with Clana was always that he barely knew her when he seemed to be crushing on her. It was what earned him the title 'stalker-man'

Then when he did start to know her, he just maintained the image of the 'innocent fairy princess' he'd always had. They were never equals because Clark always put her on a pedestal, she was never accountable for anything. The one time he did hold her accountable he forgave her and it wasn't mentioned again. As much as Lana claimed they were in equals in "Power" they weren't because she was still on that pedestal. That was the problem with Clana.

Clark knows Lois, he knows her very well. He doesn't have illusions about the kind of person Lois is and it is obvious he cares about more than just the fact that she's hot. When she does things he doesn't like he tells her, he doesn't keep her on a pedestal anymore than Lois puts him on a pedestal. They think highly of eachother without having to think of the other person as flawless. He works with her on a daily basis and now he is finding that there are feelings there that complicate things and he doesn't know what to do about that right now. Clark has what he thinks he should do, which is nothing and keeping the relationship very basic friendship and co-worker like, and there is what I think he wants to do which is not keep the relationship a very basic friendship. I guess future episodes will tell, but I'm perfectly fine with him admiring her when she isn't looking, because right now that's all he is really ready to do, and I think that means they might not do a rush-job on the Clois which is fine.

I certainly don't see Clana here at all.

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To be fair, I don't think that Clark wants Chloe to know either. That's why he took her memory from her in "Abyss" and Chloe getting her memories of Clark back were not his doing. I think that as far as Chloe is concerned, what's done is done. She knows Clark's secret already so there's really nothing that Clark can do at this point to change that.

I agree with this as well. I thought that was made obvious in Abyss. When Clark cares about people he hates to see them endangered because of their knowledge/affiliation with him.

Alania
03-13-2009, 08:33 PM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!

What?! No way!!!! Lois doesn't do well with sadness, she always finds ways to terminate it and Lana has a tendency to grind slowly and thoroughly bad feelings and insecurities. In this season, Lois, after Clark's passive reaction towards her will to talk about Bride incident, will occupy herself with the chase on the RBB, keeping herself pretty busy, she won't have time to anything else. And for the next season, if they ever hook up together, since she's been on that hero road before, she won't put up with that again and i just wish Clark good luck managing her. But, i also can't pass the fact she's kissed Clark before; if they kiss again, it's likely she will remember the superpowered guy from the alley, since, according to her, it's the best she's ever kissed. That is the writers don't assume we forgot that and never let her figure him out by a kiss.
Summing up, it's highly likely we'll never see so much as a lanation tendency on her.:cool:

LovelyLoisLane
03-13-2009, 08:43 PM
This is totally different from Lana and this episode made that very clear. Clark didn't tell Lana his secret because he didn't think she would understand. He already made it clear to Chloe that he knows Lois will understand, he isn't telling her his secret because of some High school "she won't understand me" drama. He is keeping a secret from her because he wants to protect her, he saw what would happen if she knew the truth and the danger he put her in was not something he could face again. How many times has Chloe gotten in troube because of his secret, he even tried to wipe her memory because of it. The idea of willingly putting Lois through that terrifies him and shows his much deeper feelings from her. He is sacrificing what he wants in order to protect her. That is true heroism, mature, and is also darn romantic

I was thinking something similar as well, though I do think there is some insecurity there over not wanting to get hurt again.

geminis
03-13-2009, 09:32 PM
Noooooooo she is not!
How can you suggest such a thing? :lol:
I agree with what Kaitlyn said on the first page; after this, Lois is going to be throwing herself into her work. When did Lana ever do that?

Me too. Lois is NOT Lana and Lois is NOT Chloe.

I have to admit though that despite some remote similarities in what they experience, Lois is a completely different person than Lana and Chloe and handles things very differently. Lana kept flip-flopping between Clark and other guys. Chloe put herself out there, but Clark never really caught on to the depth of her emotion. They have all moved on. In Bride, Lois became aware of her attraction to Clark, thought Clark was interested and needed her, but Lana interrupted. She left them to their rollercoaster and now that that ride appears over, she gives Clark an invitation to open or shut the possibility for them as a couple. No wishy washy 'maybe yes, maybe no'. But because he knows that she was actually at the cafe he is aware of her feelings.


Lana threw herself into acquiring superpowers by fair and foul means; Lois has enough confidence to call herself a superhero without the powers a la Stiletto. And Lois being Lois, she's throwing herself into work and her avowed declaration of chasing the Red/Blue Blur for her article. Hmmm, also Lana can't even stay in Smallville when Clark asks her because she makes him ill; Lois, on the other hand, is after Clark without even knowing it.

Yeah, Lois is definitely NOT going through a Lanation phase.

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
03-13-2009, 09:42 PM
Having angst doesn't make them Clana, ALL couples NEED angst, or they get boring. It can't be all banter(as much as I love that)

Lois will NEVER be like Lana

pizzahead2490
03-13-2009, 09:46 PM
EWWWWW how disgusting...

llk6165
03-14-2009, 12:03 AM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!

Lois respects his decisions. That is one of the main differences b/t her and Lana

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So get over it and turn yourself in Mad Dog Lane!

Ok let Clark sob for the rest of the eighth season over losing Lana to Lex’s evil plan to destroy the future of the star crossed lovers but that is not an excuse to start screwing up Lois Lane.

I get that Clark is going to take a long time to get over the loss of Lana Lang
Instead they have a silly love sick Lois Lane pinning after an indifferent, damaged Clark Kent that is in love with someone else.



I will agree to disagree with you, but here are a few replies:

Lois has always been MDL' and that came through in this eppy.
Just b/c someone feels sad doesn't mean they are a patsy.
There was nothing weak about Lois in Infamous.
CK looked like he was over Lana.

To your point that he would have met a cured Lana, it's inconsistent with the show, b/c if that were the case he could have turned back time to change the Lana arc so he could be with her.

Demien
03-14-2009, 12:25 AM
Yes...and it's getting worse...because there is thing X-girlfriend :-s....and I believe it stands betwen them or will

Alexander III
03-14-2009, 06:40 PM
but this time he kknew he did and it pained him :(

Ha the man of steel isn't a steel after all, he's the man of pain, he brings pain and gets pain!

j-kent
03-14-2009, 09:20 PM
Just like Lana back in season 1 - 6, logically Clark has to protect his secret from Lois, and that will obviously lead to more heartbroken moments between Lois and Clark. And btw, I lost count, Clark just broke Lois's H-E-A-R-T again!

Not at all really...Lois is headstrong and they played that well for her well-known personality...noticed how she texted him back and said following a lead...she's got a lot of pride and makes sure ppl know that...when it comes to the love department she's Lana's doppelganger

MetroGirl06
03-16-2009, 11:59 AM
I'd like to think not.

workshyslacker
03-16-2009, 02:24 PM
I'm hoping we don't get anymore moments where Clark hurts Lois (intentionally or not). I want her to pick herself up and move on with her career. And that this is the last time we'll see her cry over him.

Candice
03-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Lois and Lana are polar opposites, that's part of the reason why only one of them ever becomes Superman's wife...

Tatiana
03-16-2009, 08:39 PM
i dont think it is the same, Lana used to whine a lot and Clark was more open about his feelings for Lana than what he is about Lois, so Lois just basically thinks he doesn't care about her, so she is going to pretend she doesn't either. She won't cry like Lana did or keep saying "just tell me the truth" all the time. She definitely is a different woman, Lana was a little girl

Sunny8
03-18-2009, 04:58 AM
Never. TPTB better not mess up Lois' character so that she acts like Lana. Lois is a totally different person.

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You hit the nail right on the head. I find it strange that Lois didn't even ask him about what happened between him and Lana. What would have happened if they had met for coffee and discussed the almost kiss. Would she just forget to inquire about the status of his relationship with Lana? Strange...

I think if Clark had met her for coffee she would have brought up the topic of Lana. Of course, if Clark had actually seat down with her and showed that he wanted a relationship with her, he might have brought the subject up. He might have done so just to bring her up to speed so that she could decide if she wanted to pursue a relationship with him or not after she learned what happened between him and Lana.

Bizarrolover
03-18-2009, 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by Clana4Life http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4596721#post4596721)
You hit the nail right on the head. I find it strange that Lois didn't even ask him about what happened between him and Lana. What would have happened if they had met for coffee and discussed the almost kiss. Would she just forget to inquire about the status of his relationship with Lana? Strange...

Maybe Lois asked Chloe if Lana was still in Smallville in one of the many times she called to ask about her husband. Perhaps Chloe told her that Lana was gone, apparently for good this time, and didn't give her much information about what happened with Clark. That's how I imagine it happened.

Anyway, Lois knows Clark is not the kind of guy that would start a new relationship without ending the previous one, so I'm sure she was going to postpone that conversation for the moment they finally started something.

superjude
03-18-2009, 12:17 PM
NO, No , NO , No , NO , NO. Please let there not be so much angst with Lois and Clark, as there was with Lana. I don't mind a little doubt and some playing hard to get, but none of the mopey, killjoy attitudes, and let it be nothing like the past 7 seasons of Clana. I want it to be more fun and breathtaking.

Selina
03-18-2009, 12:57 PM
I watched this episode for the first time recently and I have to say, nothing of Lois's reaction and feelings towards Clark reminded me that of Lana.<O:p</O:p
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No matter how guarded, tough, head-strong and independent a person is, they are not exempt from feeling some (even if very little) vulnerability when it comes to the opposite sex. You'd have to be pretty one-dimensional not to. Lois, as strong as she is, is still a human being with feelings and it's natural that when you do fall in love, emotions will be flying around. Lois now has to deal with her feelings and yes, it has made her less guarded than she usually is. I suppose that's when happens when someone gets under your skin. That doesn't mean she's a different person (or heaven forbid Lana!). We're just seeing a different side to her persona. As the mythology more or less states, Lois Lane is well known for being a tough journalist with an abrasive nature but underneath that tough exterior has an air of vulnerabilty about her. Superman/Clark Kent is one of the few people who knows all sides to Lois, hence why he falls in love her.<O:p</O:p
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As for the Lana and Lois comparison. They couldn't be anymore different if they tried. If any two people are from different planets, it's those two. Lana is a sweet girl but she is way to dependant on the love of another man. She also comes across needy sometimes and wallows in self-pity. Lois on the other hand comes across far more street-wise and independent. She does get emotionally attached to a guy she cares for and she will be down when it's all over but Lois is a survivor and she will pick herself up and carry on. She doesn't wallow in self-pity. She's grown up doing things her own way and no doubt she will throw herself into work and carry on.<O:p</O:p Life is tough but so is she.
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It's clear now that Lois is falling her Clark, more than she's fallen for any other guy, so it's natural that the viewers will see another side to her but that doesn't mean she's a different person or going through a "Lana phase". Just that her guard is dropping and she's adapted to the situations around her. As long as the writers don’t make too piney and still maintain her sarcastic, bossy, witty, head-strong nature, I'm all for seeing "some" vulnerability when it comes to Clark. I think right now, they have the balance right.<O:p</O:p

SGuthrie27
03-18-2009, 05:16 PM
While I may see a couple of VAGUE similarities, no, I don't think Lois is going through a "Lanation phase" (cool phrase, though, by the way). There are a lot of aspects of the Clana relationship that are missing here. Let's see... we don't have nearly the same amount of angsty uncomfortable quality from Clark (except maybe at the end of the episode)... Lois isn't whining all the time about Clark's secrets and lies (in fact, she doesn't even seem to have the foggiest inkling that he has any sort of double-life)... And both Lois AND Clark are far more confident and purpose-driven now than Clark and Lana were in earlier seasons of their relationship (or sometimes lack thereof). The only real similarity I see is on CLARK'S end, in that he feels he has to keep Lois in the dark for her own safety, just as he did with Lana.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

sithius
03-19-2009, 07:45 AM
Oh come on guys, she is not at all like Lana. I mean, Lana wouldn't text back saying 'Chasing a lead, couldn't make it anyway'. She would just text something like 'Clark... this isn't going to work' as she rides her horse off into the sunset to Oasis' Wonderwall. As has been pointed out already, she is naggy and Lois is not. I will be very surprised if Lois starts talking to Clark about how they need to be more honest and such.

Just because she was stood up does not make her Lana 2.5. That's the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever heard. People get stood up all the time, does this make them Lana 2.5's? Clark doesn't even knowingly like Lois at the moment, he just doesn't want to lead her on.

Mindylynne
03-19-2009, 07:51 AM
While I don't think (and desperately hope not) they are going to make the Clois relationship as drama filled as the Clana one was, I do think the angst is only beginning. Let's face it. When Clark is in a relationship or even just likes someone he broods, debates, stares longingly, hides his feelings, talks about his feelings...on and on and on. Since Lois is starting to become the object of his affection, then I do feel Clark's moods coming on. Hopefully this one will have a different ending.

Watching Smallville
03-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Lana always made Clark feel guilty -- pretty deliberately. Lois doesn't do that. And she doesn't put their friendship on the line, even when he disappoints her.

BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow
06-23-2011, 09:53 AM
I'd say S10 is guilty of this but not S8.