peters power

[Dpyro]

i don't understand is his powers back what did he take from nathan??

[ManOfSteel87]

He took Matt's power before they enter the building looking for Daphne. Matt held the agents off while Peter escaped. Peter took all kinds of files and video of Nathan's actions in capturing and locking up the heroes. Now when Peter was shot, I thought for a minute that he flew off, and I was thinking "holy crap, he can fly again. . . maybe he's got his original powers back", but apparently it was Nathan who saved him. On the roof when Nathan, Peter, and Angela were talking, Peter and Nathan hugged and Peter took the flight power back.

[targis]

How is Nathan able to do all this flying around with nobody seeing him take off or anything?

[RedPhoenix23]

From what I understand, Peter can only hold on to one ability at a time now. That's why on the plane he went from being all super adreline strong from Mo' to only being able to freeze crap when he bumped into Tracy. So if Pete wants to use another ability, like say, Parkmans, then he'll have to physically touch Parkman and then lose whatever he had before that.

[rip23]

i read some where that he has to get used to containing all his powers again so im guessing were seeing a learning stage for now but prolly at seasons end he is going have to need his powers but more than one and will touch all the heros around him

[Level5]

i read some where that he has to get used to containing all his powers again so im guessing were seeing a learning stage for now but prolly at seasons end he is going have to need his powers but more than one and will touch all the heros around him

This is not his old power, he didn't have to touch people in season one to get their ability.

The formula gave him back a different power. Which appears to be a weaker form of his old power, but really it's nothing like his old power. So I don't know if this is what his original power was like before it developed. If it was, then maybe there is still hope.

So the only hope I have right now is that his power evolves, or he touches Sylar and gets his empathic mimicry back.

But yeah, like you said they probably will drag this out until the end of this season. Which really stinks, because all I find myself caring about anymore is Peter and Hiro, and them getting their powers back.

[Seyee]

This is not his old power, he didn't have to touch people in season one to get their ability.

The formula gave him back a different power. Which appears to be a weaker form of his old power, but really it's nothing like his old power. So I don't know if this is what his original power was like before it developed. If it was, then maybe there is still hope.

So the only hope I have right now is that his power evolves, or he touches Sylar and gets his empathic mimicry back.

But yeah, like you said they probably will drag this out until the end of this season. Which really stinks, because all I find myself caring about anymore is Peter and Hiro, and them getting their powers back.

Same here seriously Hiro + Peter ftw. MAN for a second I thought Peter tapped in to his old power or evolved his power through tough situation making it so he could use more than 1 power at a time, or use previous powers he used before. But was disappointed to see it was Nathan carrying him.

[targis]

Same here seriously Hiro + Peter ftw. MAN for a second I thought Peter tapped in to his old power or evolved his power through tough situation making it so he could use more than 1 power at a time, or use previous powers he used before. But was disappointed to see it was Nathan carrying him.

Yeah I was so mad when I saw it was Nathan who was flying instead of Peter. They did that just to mess with people because they know that people want Peter and Hiro to get the power back and they are jerking people around. It sucks

[Seyee]

Yeah I was so mad when I saw it was Nathan who was flying instead of Peter. They did that just to mess with people because they know that people want Peter and Hiro to get the power back and they are jerking people around. It sucks

Yeah.... I was LIKE CAN THIS BE?! THE SAME SCENE with Peter vs HRG + Hatian where he flew off the building to fly away with Invisible man?? it was so similar and looks like it was going to be that way. But yeah guess I wasn't the only one disappointed. I guess I can live with Peter having that power for now because it might evolve or might change once he touches certain peoples' abilities for examples Ando or Sylar. But man just like Luke stated, "Your practically the strongest person on the planet" or something along the lines so the Heroes really need to raise their game if they even want to be in the same league as Sylar.

[Level5]

Yeah I was so mad when I saw it was Nathan who was flying instead of Peter. They did that just to mess with people because they know that people want Peter and Hiro to get the power back and they are jerking people around. It sucks

Yeah, I thought for a second he got his powers back too. But it was just the writers screwing with us.

I don't like Peter's power right now, it's too weak. But we might have to get used to it, because it might be around for awhile. I just wish they would've given it back to start with, though. Because unless this is the same power, he had before, just an earlier stage of it. Then, there is absolutely no hope for Hiro ever getting his power back--or the same one anyways.

[Seyee]

I don't know Level5. Not the first time Hiro lost his powers before or when his power failed on him. For once if the writers just randomly made a story where he gets his power back I would be happy regardless how many rules they broke or loopholes lol. I'm fine with them doing the sword power magic thing again like they did in season 1, I miss Hiro with his sword.

[Level5]

The sword didn't give him his power, though. It gave him confidence.

[taolbi]

im fine with the writers taking peters and hiros power down a notch. serves well for their story line. It makes peter seem more vulnerable.

and if hiro gets his powers back, ill be happy if its toned down as well like being able to only slow down time and teleport to distances he can only see.

[Level5]

Well, I guess we disagree, taolbi. I don't think I can like this show as long as they keep this up. Why take Peter's powers away? Why take Hiro's away? There is just no reason; I for one hate it.

[Seyee]

The sword didn't give him his power, though. It gave him confidence.

Wow.. Not that I'm disrespecting or dissing your comment but I just think that's super lame. Confident..... is the key to holding or getting his power back wth is the writers thinking when they came up with that. If that's true that's going to be one of the top things of "What messed up Heroes", I'd say that's up in the top 3: #1 being Hiro and Peter losing their power and weakened them down pretty darn well. #2 Having Sylar come back from the death with no explanation. #3 the new one, Hiro can get his power through confidence. The writers geez... I always assume Hiro lost his power due to trying to break rules or laws of the higher power since he tried to change fate and found himself back in Japan without his teleporting power. Well, I see your point though but don't see why the writers would do that.

[taolbi]

I do see where you're coming from, level 5
changing the main thing for the sake of story progression does seem like the easy road to take. its who they were, the characters that we were introduced to. I mean, peter is an empathetic guy, his power reflected him, but now he just touches people? For story sake, i really hope its his powers in its baby stage
and its frustrating that they have Hiro's development everywhere. Where did his development go from the Kensei arc?
That or maybe I just don't get you at all :D

I just accept it as it is.

[Level5]

Wow.. Not that I'm disrespecting or dissing your comment but I just think that's super lame. Confident..... is the key to holding or getting his power back wth is the writers thinking when they came up with that. If that's true that's going to be one of the top things of "What messed up Heroes", I'd say that's up in the top 3: #1 being Hiro and Peter losing their power and weakened them down pretty darn well. #2 Having Sylar come back from the death with no explanation. #3 the new one, Hiro can get his power through confidence. The writers geez... I always assume Hiro lost his power due to trying to break rules or laws of the higher power since he tried to change fate and found himself back in Japan without his teleporting power. Well, I see your point though but don't see why the writers would do that.

Arthur took his power, or is that what you're talking about?

And he always had his power in the first season. He just wasn't sure of himself enough to use it until he got the sword.

[Seyee]

I do see where you're coming from, maybe

changing the main thing for the sake of story progression does seem like the easy road to take. its who they were, the characters that we were introduced to. I mean, peter is an empathetic guy, his power reflected him, but now he just touches people? For story sake, i really hope its his powers in its baby stage
and its frustrating that they have Hiro's development everywhere. Where did his development go from the Kensei arc?
That or maybe I just don't get you at all :D

I just accept it as it is.

LOL exactly, from teh guy who was our #1 favorite teleporter/time maniuplation, then to a person who lost his powers through who knows what (probably through loss of confidence like Level5 said), then gained them back because he held a sword(to start the story of Kensei), and then to our hero Ancient Kensei, to a person who continue pursuing time-traveling/ fighting off his nemesis(daphne), then trying to become a villain to get closer to Arthur, then to lose his powers after all of that, and now the viewers are suppose to assume he's going to get a power back or else they really REALLY killed his character, our Pikachu. Too much jumping and now were back to square one where he has no powers but this time according to Arthur it's all gone!

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Arthur took his power, or is that what you're talking about?

And he always had his power in the first season. He just wasn't sure of himself enough to use it until he got the sword.

Hrmm maybe my memories are a bit inaccurate but I thought Hiro lost his power in season one when he tried to save Charlie from the past so she could be living in the present, that was a problem to him because a Higher power or something stopped him from doing that and also forced him to go back to Japan and also made it so he couldn't Teleport or time travel anymore, atleast until he held Kensei sword. Once he held that sword he teleported in to the future (5 years gone).

[Level5]

I do see where you're coming from, level 5
changing the main thing for the sake of story progression does seem like the easy road to take. its who they were, the characters that we were introduced to. I mean, peter is an empathetic guy, his power reflected him, but now he just touches people? For story sake, i really hope its his powers in its baby stage
and its frustrating that they have Hiro's development everywhere. Where did his development go from the Kensei arc?
That or maybe I just don't get you at all :D

I just accept it as it is.

Yeah, I feel the same why. I feel lost because the main characters were changed so suddenly. And just plain mad because I liked them the way they were and they went and changed their powers.

And yes, Peter's power was who he was. Peter's power made him a nice guy, or the other way around. And that was the cool thing too. Now all he has is a lame; pretty much powerless power.

And I don't accept things as is. I speak my opinion, and will stop watching the show if they don't go back and fix it--or will lose interest in it.

[Seyee]

Yeah, I feel the same why. I feel lost because the main characters were changed so suddenly. And just plain mad because I liked them the way they were and they went and changed their powers.

And yes, Peter's power was who he was. Peter's power made his a nice guy, or the other way around. And that was the cool think too. Now all he as is a lame; pretty much powerless power.

And I don't accept things as is. I speak my opinion, and will stop watching the show if they don't go back and fix it--or will lose interest in it.

Yup the writers already gave the statement of having of the the characters saying Sylar is the strongest person alive or something along the line. With BOTH Hiro and Peter being superdowngraded they stand no chance, especially when Peter has to touch Sylar, but how can he with TK.

[Level5]

Hrmm maybe my memories are a bit inaccurate but I thought Hiro lost his power in season one when he tried to save Charlie from the past so she could be living in the present, that was a problem to him because a Higher power or something stopped him from doing that and also forced him to go back to Japan and also made it so he couldn't Teleport or time travel anymore, atleast until he held Kensei sword. Once he held that sword he teleported in to the future (5 years gone).

Oh, I think we were talking about two different things.

Um, I don't think Hiro lost his power there. Just the ability to call his power, because of sadness or something else. I don't know, that was when Hiro was still new at using his power.

[Seyee]

That could be true since it took him awhile to get used to his power and trying to focus his power to do the things he want was hard too. But don't you think it's weird or I guess poor writing just to see him immediately get his power back once he touched the sword due to either him not being sad/depress/ more confident? I think I was better off assuming he got his power from a magical sword lol or that sword was the key to guide him through his path that's how I saw it, rather than it being his mood maker. Anyway we haven't seen Hiro for a loooong time now lol almost seems like 5 episodes lol, I really hope he's going to be in next episode with some explanations, other than I'm a hero without powers so full of nonsense :(.

[Level5]

Yeah, the sword means a lot to Japanese I think.

And I hope Hiro comes back too, but not if it's going to be more of the power without power thing. That's just pointless on this show.

[whitearrow]

i think peter power is gradually becoming what it was. From last night show he does not have to make physical contact with their skin. Also it showed he can control when the power was activated. Which leads me to believe that it is evolving. As for stacking them up well im sure that will come dont know how the y will explain that though. I think that was angela said to nathan. "He is getting stronger" or something along those lines. I think they will build up the amount of power he can stack at one time. however how he determines which one he loses will be up to them.

I hope it does not take to long though so hopefully by this volume end

[weemanwise]

I think the writers purposely had Peter's power taken away back in volume three to prepare for volume four to make it more interesting. I mean if Peter still had all his powers he could just storm in and out of Building 26 whenever he wanted and rescue everybody. But now that he only can hold onto one power at a time it makes the volume way more interesting.

[Dpyro]

He took Matt's power before they enter the building looking for Daphne. Matt held the agents off while Peter escaped. Peter took all kinds of files and video of Nathan's actions in capturing and locking up the heroes. Now when Peter was shot, I thought for a minute that he flew off, and I was thinking "holy crap, he can fly again. . . maybe he's got his original powers back", but apparently it was Nathan who saved him. On the roof when Nathan, Peter, and Angela were talking, Peter and Nathan hugged and Peter took the flight power back.

ohhhh I didn't notice that nathan saved him I thought it was peter flying off by himself that makes sense now now. im disappointed i was at least hoping peter made an illusion with parkmans power and made it look like he flew off while he really ran away lol

[yanky820]

I think the writers purposely had Peter's power taken away back in volume three to prepare for volume four to make it more interesting. I mean if Peter still had all his powers he could just storm in and out of Building 26 whenever he wanted and rescue everybody. But now that he only can hold onto one power at a time it makes the volume way more interesting.


I think this is so true, because if he did have all of his powers then there really would not be a good story line to it. Now I do hope that peters powers come back to normal, or at least being able to hold on to more then one power by the end of this volume. I'm just wondering how is he going to get his scar? And when that happens I think he'll be close or if not already being able to hold on to more then one. I wonder if it's because of sylar that he gets the scar, or that agent........

[oldblackmagick]

...or nathan. Sorry just playing devil's advocate. Plus in episode 20 i think i heard something about him torturing someone....maybe to death. my only problem is though the only one i can think of in building 26 is daphne or tracy...i hope daphne doesn't die but what about tracy. i thought she was going to be getting a big story arc next year for being in the heat torture room alot this volume. oh well NATHAN IS EVIL!!! <<<True Fact!

[Level5]

I think the writers purposely had Peter's power taken away back in volume three to prepare for volume four to make it more interesting. I mean if Peter still had all his powers he could just storm in and out of Building 26 whenever he wanted and rescue everybody. But now that he only can hold onto one power at a time it makes the volume way more interesting.

Yeah, that's why they did it, I know. It's stupid to do this to make a storyline work, it's mean to the Peter fans, (me) and is just lazy writing. How many times are the writers going to take Peter's powers away to make a storyline work?

And this is also why it's a stupid volume, and is losing viewers faster than any other show on TV. You don't change things like this to make the story work--like taking Hiro's and Peter's powers away. And yes, Nathan and his team wouldn't stand a chance--maybe, there are ways to block powers. But that's again why this is a stupid storyline; there are better ways to keep Peter down. They just need to do better than this.

Right now Claire is more powerful than Peter. Which is lame beyond comprehension.

Just give Peter his powers back, but make it hard for him to use it (like in season one, where he struggled to call a power.) Maybe it's too late for that though. At least, do something besides taking it away, please!

[targis]

Peter was shot in the shoulder. He can't go to a hospital so I think he would have to go and see Claire to get her power to heal. If he gets her power it may fix him so he can have multiple abilities again.

[Level5]

I think that was angela said to nathan. "He is getting stronger" or something along those lines.

I just watched it again, and Angela didn't say anything like that. Unless, you were talking about when she whispered in Nathan's ear?

I just really hope he gets them back before too long. Or I can join the 8 million other people that have stopped watching this show--can't believe I'd ever say that.

[targis]

whatever she said it was about Peter because after she said it Nathan was looking up in the sky.

[Level5]

Well, I hope she said this: "You need to be ready, Nathan, because Peter is getting stronger, and is going to kick some butt."

[Slyph]

I think Peter will eventually get all of his powers back after he finally get that scar of his. I can't see it any other way.

[Jor'el_Ted]

I think that Peter is just reset back to zero and he has to learn to control his power again. In volume 1 he couldn't control it and he didn't even know when he aquired new powers untill he used them. Also if you remember what happened when he absorbed Ted(nuke boy)'s power he couldn't control it because of all the other powers he had.

I hope we don't have a repeat of that scene when Peter touches Sylar and absorbs all his powers AT ONCE!

As for Hiro, I'm hoping maybe Ando can use his power to speed up his genetic evolution so he gets his power back that way.

[whitearrow]

I just watched it again, and Angela didn't say anything like that. Unless, you were talking about when she whispered in Nathan's ear?

I just really hope he gets them back before too long. Or I can join the 8 million other people that have stopped watching this show--can't believe I'd ever say that.


Dont know if she said that or not was purely speculating. Will remember to say that next time. Just assumed it had something to do with peter as Nathan looked up.

Also about Peter's power was wondering...you know when he use to be able to stack multiple powers surely his body would have changed ever so slightly to accommodate each power. Which means that he should still be able to access those powers if he concentrates ( SPECULATION :lol::lol: )

[Jor'el_Ted]

Also about Peter's power was wondering...you know when he use to be able to stack multiple powers surely his body would have changed ever so slightly to accommodate each power. Which means that he should still be able to access those powers if he concentrates ( SPECULATION :lol::lol: )

That's what I was thinking. Maybe when Arthur stole his powers that neuralized Peter's own inate power. Once he took the serum it reactivated his "mimic" ability but that's it so he has to touch people to re-gain all of his powers(not ALL of them since some of the people he got em from are now dead).

That's my theory anyway. :)

[Cyclops1974]

Well, the way I see it, there are 2 possibilities now:

1. it's a complete new power which still has to evolve;
2. it's his old power in it's early stages.

Let me elaborate, because I love to do so :D (ooh, I used a difficult word :lol:)

1. it's a complete new power which he still has to evolve:

Remember that he just gained this power. He had his previous power (albeit latent) for about 25 years (assuming he's 26 now). With that thought it could be possible that his former latent power had 25 years to evolve. Just as anyone else's power which they had from birth. So looking at this new power as unevolved or slightly evolved (Peter seems to be able to take powers through clothes - so without touching skin as he apparantly does in this episode - and seems to controle whether or not he takes the power), it could be that this is basically the power Arthur had. So in time I reckon that Pete will learn to take a power away instead of just borrowing it (I think Arthur could've just borrowed powers if he wanted to. Remember when he had the power of mind control? He probably borrowed that from Matt's father) and he will be able to hold on to the powers he borrowed. Effectively becoming as powerful as he was before. My thought is if this happens, than the writers/producers thought that a powerful Peter is cool, but it's too much of a convenience when he's able to collect power from everyone who's nearby. Theoretically that would mean Peter could be all-powerful, godlike, with every ability available. Nothing or no-one, not even Sylar (maybe or maybe not - read below) would be able to stop him. With this new power he would be limited to control the powers of persons he can touch. Most likely there are a couple of people out there who are strong (telekinesis) or fast enough (like Daphne) to not let Peter touch them. And maybe even more important, Peter won't accidentally take powers he doesn't want (like Ted Sprague's induced radioactivity).

2. it's his old power in it's early stages.

Starting again with the fact that his old power had 25 years to evolve and this power had only a few months, it is likely that if it is his old power in early stages, that he will learn how to control more than one power and take powers without touching, not necessarily in that particular order (seems like a plausible development: touching skin, touching clothes, no touching at all (maybe at first only from very short distance, but with practice from a longer distance). But that would create the same problems as mention before. A theoretically all-powerful God-like Peter. And I'm guessing that the reason the writers deciced to take his powers in the first place was, that they wanted to change his power to avoid any questions on how to deal with an unstoppable God-like being. The problem with this reasoning is of course that Sylar still has Pete's old ability and thus is in theory able to become all-powerful. But my best guess is that it's no longer in character anymore for Sylar to just take any ability he wants. He seems satisfied with the powers he's got. The "hunger" is gone. Or maybe Sylar just has hard time controlling the empathic mimicry. Took him a long time in one room with Elle to finally control her power. Maybe he thinks it's not worth the trouble to get powers this way. Who knows? I guess we will we see what happens when the story continues.



P.S.: When I told ya I was going to "elaborate", I wasn't kidding! :rotfl:

[whitearrow]

This idea of peter being god-like powerful should his old power return is silly. Remember what hatian did to Arthur. I know it caused him a strain but Arthur became vulnerable for a while. lets not forget the eclipse which more or less levels the playing field. Also even if Peter absorbed a lot of powers he still does not know how to use them all which could make him more dangerous then Sylar. ticking time bomb again. Also there is the puppet master dude who is pretty powerful. To defeat peter all the writers would have to do is pair Ando up with a person whose power can be used as a weapon me thinks like Daphine or...come to thin of it the is a serious shortage of decent powers. hmm what gives?:confused:

[RedPhoenix23]

I'm hoping the formula gave Peter his old ability back but it's just "broken" right now because he's still dealing with the fact that he shot his father - yes, Sylar ultimately killed Arthur but IT WAS PETER'S BULLET that Sylar used. Peter has got to feel some degree of guilt for that. As we've seen before, the person's emotional state does effect how well the powers work. For example, at first Niki didn't have superstrength until she became Jessica and for another example, when Elle was upset over her father's murder and her getting kicked out of the company, her powers got screwy on her too.

[Cychotec]

yeah, I think the limitation of his power should have been a conscious decision on Peters part. Due to his inability to control so many powers at once... that could have been used as the reason for Peters explosion in the first season. He had absorbed so many powers that he lost control so he decided/learned how to let go of many of the abilities so he can keep control of a few. I feel they wasted the last 2 seasons trying to reset powers rather than show the devolopment of these powers which would have been much more interesting.

[whitearrow]

Got this from an article interview with writers Aron Coliete and Joe Pokaski


Caid comes to us all the way from Glasgow, Scotland to get some clarification on Peter's abilities:
“I'd just like some clarification regarding Peter's ability. When he injected himself with the formula, he appeared to absorb Nathan's ability the way he used to do with Empathic Mimicry and then took off, grabbing Nathan in the process but now he needs to physically touch people to absorb their ability. Was that intended or was it just a little hiccup on the writers’ part?”
No hiccup. This is all just an expansion of Peter’s powers to absorb them on at a time. It’s going to take some time for him to get used to them.



see link below


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20086

So its just another way his powers work. I'm all happy again

[the highlander]

certainly interesting...

[jazzylg]

It's real simple if the writers would dare go there.... have Peter locate and dig up his dad's body, remove the bullet from his brain, steal his abilities back, and then he can give Hiro his powers back. Hey, it could happen. :rolleyes:

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Oh yea, I used to wonder how could the series go forward when peter was invincible..Now I wonder how it can be exciting without the heroes 'superman'. Come on writers, make Peter super again! :mad:

[unsafe]

I read that link whitearrow posted and it sounds like the power Peter has is all he will have. One power at a time - transferrable by touch. I liked it much better when Peter was "the most powerful of us all". There are plenty of ways to write the show dispite his seeming all powerfulness. For one thing he can't be everywhere all at once, so there is plenty of ways people could use smarts against him, etc.

In short though, if he does not get his powers back soon I think the ratings will be one less than it is now because I hate the fact that he is not at his former glory.

[Level5]

I agree with you, unsafe. Making Peter powerless was a bad decision on the writers part. But I think it's their way of cutting the budget. Which stinks, but when the ratings go down so does the budget.

[topo21]

I agree with you, unsafe. Making Peter powerless was a bad decision on the writers part. But I think it's their way of cutting the budget. Which stinks, but when the ratings go down so does the budget.

If only Tracy froze an NBC executive, the show would have probably gotten a bigger budget.

Compared to the greatness of Volume 3, you can clearly see the budget cuts of Volume 4. The action scenes are shorter and becoming more implied. It would require a decent budget or really really good writing to challenge a fully powered Peter.