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number8
02-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Anybody else glad Daphne is still alive? :)
I was starting to get worried.
j-kent
02-23-2009, 11:03 PM
yeah but dont get your hopes up shes on on a thin line of life right now
weemanwise
02-23-2009, 11:04 PM
Not all to surprising, glad to have them confirm so soon after they "killed" her.
Seyee
02-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Man I actually thought she did died, based on what Matt and Mohinder kept on saying. Last time I saw Daphne she was being held by Matt, so I thought she was carried away by Matt the whole time... Oh well I'm glad she's alive hopefully she'll stay that way. I'm disappointed that Nathan is starting death threats now which was something he totally didn't want to get into. I had a feeling they might do this, I just hope Peter gets better control or evolve his power quicker because they going to need all the help they can get now.
Alexander III
02-23-2009, 11:06 PM
Not for long!
weemanwise
02-23-2009, 11:07 PM
I'm just waiting for the episode when the hunter finally finds out Nathan can fly.
number8
02-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Maybe I'm just too much of a fan of The Flash, but I would have thought speedsters would have accelerated healing.
Probably the only reason she is not dead. She was shot about five times.
targis
02-23-2009, 11:14 PM
I'm glad Daphne is still alive. She has one of the most hepful abilites. Now they need to get her out of there and give her some of Claire's blood.
I don't know if they will let her live though. having someone that can move faster than someone could see that would be almost unstopable. She could take out Nathans entire operation as long as she didn't stop once she started.
weemanwise
02-23-2009, 11:15 PM
hmmm. Wonder what Claire could do if it was supercharged by Ando.
Mini Wolfsbane
02-24-2009, 12:07 AM
I'm happy she's alive, but I almost would've liked to see her die because
her death was so sudden and so hard on Matt. They brought up
the fact she's alive a little to quickly, I think it would've been nice to let us hang for at least a couple more episodes to make things more believeable. Not go, wham!
hey, look, she's alive! Takes away the meaning from it.
I guess I can look forward to the fact that now Matt has to actually have to find a way to get her (and Mohinder) out of the facility. Should be interesting.
Level5
02-24-2009, 12:21 AM
I'm not happy see is alive. Her power is too fake for this show. As were many, but they are mostly all gone now.
j-kent
02-24-2009, 12:47 AM
huh? how are any of these powers remotely close to being realistic anyway? Her character is great because she is the ostentatious spunk of the show and her power suits her well..I hope she makes it
Level5
02-24-2009, 01:00 AM
Your right none of this is real, but her power is so fake in fact, that nobody should except it.
Most of the powers on this show, at least, make some sense. but Daphne would need other powers to make hers work. she would need a special suit, something that wouldn't catch fire from the friction. And she would need super strength to take the force of moving that fast. And she would need to have super fast eye sight, and the ability to make really fast decisions.
the highlander
02-24-2009, 01:04 AM
same thing as superman... I am pretty sure that the way she moves and supes moves, there is no tennis shoe that can have enough friction for that speed...
Dude give it a rest with the bashing... you are bashing the show TOO Much already....
I really liked that she was alive and really felt her yell of pain....
Level5
02-24-2009, 01:07 AM
I'm bashing the show? I'm stating the obvious. If this show is going to continue to get more and more unrealistic, then it is doomed to fail.
Seyee
02-24-2009, 01:14 AM
Your right none of this is real, but her power is so fake in fact, that nobody should except it.
Most of the powers on this show, at least, make some sense. but Daphne would need other powers to make hers work. she would need a special suit, something that wouldn't catch fire from the friction. And she would need super strength to take the force of moving that fast. And she would need to have super fast eye sight, and the ability to make really fast decisions.
Just a thought, same goes with Nathan flying at intense speed could hurt him but I believe were suppose to assume that some powers that you would think normally hurt the User, wouldn't because that power gives them immunity of having that power hurting them. But the writers haven't done a great job implying this too much or explaining it, and what's worse is I always assume that it was true, and that is why Peter is technically one of the strongest or so his Mom said. He used to have the ability to absorb peoples' powers and so if you have the same power as them you can't really get hurt by it as he should normally i.e. Matt vs Peter trying to mind control him, I believe Ted radiation is suppose to be one but the writers did a bad job on that. So I'm guessing superspeed even though she would need all the other stuff to technically be safe from her power, same goes with Nathan, the writers want us to assume their own power can't hurt themselves.
#edit to the recent response: Lol it's not bashing he's just a fan just like us, but just like he said the show ratings dropped after season 1, you wanna know why? People are getting confused and bored of what the writers are doing with season 2/3 to the point where they don't even know why they really watching it, as in they are being let down. I'm guessing Level 5 and probably others like him and I'm sorta with him on this are still watching this hoping they will turn around and make things better and less confusing. But lately it hasn't showed.
j-kent
02-24-2009, 01:19 AM
when one writes fiction knows there are no layers of realism because fiction is simply fiction. One should watch this show for the story and the entertainment and so far it's 3 seasons of pure unrealistic fiction has successfully captivated viewers. When engaging in science fiction, we maintain our enjoyment by using what we call suspended belief and one who is choleric to insignificant details should probably refrain from watching this show. Don't be fooled by the show's sophisticated take because underneath it's still a fiction based on superpowers and essentially comic books.
Level5
02-24-2009, 01:28 AM
This show is different from other shows, because it brings this all down to a believable level. And I know it's all fiction, but the illusion that they create that it's real is what I like about the show. Like evolution; people evolving, that's what gave them these powers. So, if they want to go off into the impossible, then they should change the base plot from evolved humans to aliens from some other world.
Because humans are governed my physics, they aren't gods, so matter how powerful they're.
Seyee
02-24-2009, 01:29 AM
when one writes fiction knows there are no layers of realism because fiction is simply fiction. One should watch this show for the story and the entertainment and so far it's 3 seasons of pure unrealistic fiction has successfully captivated viewers. When engaging in science fiction, we maintain our enjoyment by using what we call suspended belief and one who is choleric to insignificant details should probably refrain from watching this show. Don't be fooled by the show's sophisticated take because underneath it's still a fiction based on superpowers and essentially comic books.
Yup no agrument there. It's just that a lot of the fans probably the reason why the ratings drastically went down was because they way the kept changing the powers limitations, making it confusing i.e Hiro's power, and I think it's safe to say that most of the viewers are not children and are very older and fans of tv heroes/superheroes shows so these people like how realistically the writers can the abilities as real as possible in the sense of, "this is what you should expect if this ability was real based on some common knowledge of science." Which is precisely why they killed Maya's power lol it was so random and there was no science to it, they really never even gave it a name beside I kill the people around me because I emitt black thingies from my eyes.
EDIT!!!!: OMFG Level 5 are you stalking my typing?? you pretty much say the same thing I'm saying but in shorter.
Level5
02-24-2009, 01:35 AM
Maya's power was believable on some level. I mean, when a person dies they can become very toxic to other humans. So lets just say she emits some kinda of disease from herself.
Seyee I don't think I am, we might just be thinking alike.
What does it all for me is when they go breaking the rules of physics. I can believe Daphne's power can make her run fast, but for that to work, she has to have the ability to take a large amount of force. Which she doesn't, or, at least the writers haven't told us she does. But even if she does, that doesn't explain why she can carry people.
Seyee
02-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Eh were thinking too much alike in like ever post to the point where it's scary. Everything I mentioned you mentioned it as well. Hrmm yeah I know what you mean that her power is believable at a certain extent but not a very good one :/... since the writers or the casts never ever went into it. It almost sound like it's just an ability they made out of thin air, but I wonder if she'll be back anytime soon she is a "Main Cast" -_- yet she only had like 2 episodes the whole season, especially now that she's powerless.
Oh well sort of glad that she's out of the picture now, one less thing we have to worry about the writers wasting time on.
Level5
02-24-2009, 01:44 AM
Yeah, it takes forever for me to post, because my Internet is down and I'm on Dial-Up. :(
But, yeah I don't like it when they throw random powers at us, without explaining on some level of how they work. Like Peter's new power, we know nothing about it. All we know is what we think it is, but is it what we think it is? I don't know.
Seyee
02-24-2009, 01:50 AM
Going on topic: during the flashback scenes of HRG seeing Daphne... Did HRG injected more sedatives, and saying that she'll need more because well not sure why but she's similar to The Flash on Smallville where that kid eats a mountain because he burns all the calories. Well I know he injected more, but was that because HRG was familiar with the power and that her body accelerates quickly and burns a lot of things ingested quickly in similar with the Flash? I'm confused whether it's that, or they just wanted to show that HRG knows medical stuff, or something else. Sort of dazed off towards the ending of the episode been a long day lol.
Level5
02-24-2009, 02:13 AM
There's another reason why this ability should just go. It world burn through energy way to fast. She would have to eat like every minute just to stay alive. But I'm welling to put that fact aside, because her ability might have something to do with that.
Smallville is a lot different than Heroes. Smallville involves aliens, and Heroes doesn't. So, Heroes needs to keep it has real as possible, simply because they're saying that this is evolution. Which means, this is less science fiction than Smallville, and more real. So, you can't compare this to Smallville.
And yes, he did say that Daphne would need more drugs to keep her down.
Seyee
02-24-2009, 02:24 AM
Ah yes so in terms it's very similar to the Flash and just to you know The Flash is all human xD. But Heroes and Smallville are different in terms of how powers emerged, one focuses on evolution and the other focuses on supernatural events or kryptonite. The writers in heroes were doing a good job in the earlier seasons but then went down fall form there in terms of realistic the powers can get. But The Flash is from DC comics and is nothing alien-like they tried to make his power as real as they could but also have to remember that it was back long ago when they made the character The Flash so not everything is updated to be realistic as it should be, but what they did do is imply that The Flash needs to eat a lot because he burns soo much calories.
targis
02-24-2009, 02:36 AM
There's another reason why this ability should just go. It world burn through energy way to fast. She would have to eat like every minute just to stay alive. But I'm welling to put that fact aside, because her ability might have something to do with that.
Smallville is a lot different than Heroes. Smallville involves aliens, and Heroes doesn't. So, Heroes needs to keep it has real as possible, simply because they're saying that this is evaluation. Which means, this is less science fiction than Smallville, and more real. So, you can't compare this to Smallville.
And yes, he did say that Daphne would need more drugs to keep her down.
I have to disagree with you that Daphne's ability should go because it is to unbelievable. If you say that Daphne's ability is to unbelivable they are all just as unbelievable as Daphne's.
Even considering Clark is from krypton he still wears Jeans and clothes no different from Daphne. I don't think Clark is Friction imune anyway. or his jeans wouldn't be anyway. so if he ran like he doe's he would have holes in them. the same goes for Bart on SM.
I think you have to just blindly accept how super powers work and it can't really be scientificly proven because it is fiction.
Level5
02-24-2009, 02:52 AM
I'll say it again, you can't compare this show to Smallville. For one, smallville is about aliens, and all things are possible with aliens. Heroes is supposed to bring the whole powers thing down to a believable level, or at least that's what I thought it was doing.
Heroes is less science fiction and more real, in respects to evolution. Which, many people believe in. I can't say that I actually do, but putting that aside, I can believe some of the stuff in this show. and the illusion that they created in the first season was just awesome.
I still don't believe any of this, I know it is fake and will never actually happen. But it's how real this show can make this seem that amazes me. And that's what I liked about this show, that it was on some level actually believable--still don't actually think it is, though. Just the illusion was enough to amaze me, and leave me wanting more.
Because to me that's what a good show is. A show that can pull you, and make you lose track of reality, because they make it seem so real. A show that can leave you wanting more, because it was just so amazing. I know you probably can't believe I'm talking about Heroes, but I am. That's what I thought about season one most of the time. Sure it had its weak points, but it always came back.
If all I wanted was to hear a good story, then I would read a book. :)
j-kent
02-24-2009, 03:21 AM
targis that's what i've been trying to say- thanks haha...sometimes an astringent analyst is not the way to go for watching a science fiction show..
Level5- I'd also disagree that they are trying to make things more believable...I think that's subjective and the whole evolution argument isn't as sound as you think it is. Sure, they give you a purely elementary reason to why there exists these mutations...but they in no way try to completely explain their powers under fundamental laws of physics or biology...that's just silly. I think you're just getting confused with the mature tone it sets and certainly over complicating matters.
But look, there is no rule book to say how real or possible a superpower is...that's so silly...you can't make one super ability more real than another- when you get down to it's all fiction and we enjoy it because it invigorates the imagination AND...get this- is fun because it is unbound by the real-world and logic. There's really no more one can say to this because the idea to be simple is simple in itself! I say give up the overanalyzing and let the inner-child in! :) but I see sometimes you can't take away the hammer from the person beating the dead horse cuz he's holdin on to it too tightly...
but anyways just to completely change direction here it is noted in the comics that Clark and the Flash, as well, fair against air friction because of an aura that is millimeters/centimeters surrounding them. This is an explanation most notably for Flash who is human and vulnerable to such physicality. This is also a nice light reasonable explanation to why their clothing is generally intact under those harsh conditions.
Level5
02-24-2009, 03:29 AM
I'm not saying that any of this can be proved in any science. I'm saying it's how REAL they make it seem. Right now, with Daphne's power there is just no way they can make it seem real. Controlling stuff with the mind is more real than Daphne's power, so is super strength. Because, at least, they wont rip you apart.
I don't want any of this to be real. I'm just saying they should, at least, try to make it seem real. Because that's what pulls people in and gets them excited about the show.
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but anyways just to completely change direction here it is noted in the comics that Clark and the Flash, as well, fair against air friction because of an aura that is millimeters/centimeters surrounding them. This is an explanation most notably for Flash who is human and vulnerable to such physicality. This is also a nice light reasonable explanation to why their clothing is generally intact under those harsh conditions.
Alright, if that is true I'm all for it, but there was know way of knowing that, because the writers didn't explain it. Seems like that's the plot of the show know, though.
But doesn't explain why they can carry other people with them at that speed.
j-kent
02-24-2009, 04:02 AM
everything you're saying is utterly subjective..from YOUR perception the show is trying to make thing more believable when you could be completing blindsighted by its mature tone. Most viewers enjoy it from what he has to offer. I think what's really going in is that YOU are making it more real than it should be..I mean where do you draw the line of realism when a guy is flying out a window? And you honestly say that reading a mind is more real than superspeed? sry but you can't quantify realness.
but that's the problem..you want this to be real and what were saying is that there's a MASSIVE line that splits real from fiction. Science fiction exists for our entertainment and not for analyzing. The problem is that you're stuck in a nonexistent world between that. It's already a wonderful mix of unreal abilities and seemingly normal people with some dramatic or psychological if you will, depth. That's the beauty of fiction. I'm certainly sure that people are pulled more so by the story and its elements and the fact that powers exists in this fiction rather than the gritty detail of how they should work.
also-the Flash/Superman super speed example was not for Heroes reference. Never said this was the explanation for Daphne. Just throwing out that writers do try to offer some light explanations for those kind of analyzers such as yourself..
i'm done...going to sleep man...done on this thread because what u want doesn't exists and the show already gives enough of its realism with its wonderful plots and characters. you ignored 100% of wha I said anyway. if you want to take away daphne's power because it's supposely "less real" than others then take away like 99.99% of the powers of the show and whattya get..no fun...lol. I don't think your argument is sound...like I said you can't take away the hammer from the person beating the dead horse if he wants to hold on that hammer ever so tightly...
Yoshua
02-24-2009, 09:15 AM
I'd still be worried to be honest. Theres only one thing I could think of that would make Matt Parkman nuke DC.
~::PhaEj::~
02-24-2009, 11:18 AM
i'm glad she's alive.... representing people with disabilities who inspire to be super heroes also :)
and shame on matt for not even making sure she really died (not to mention a proper burial) once the danger was cleared
IzzyX
02-24-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm not saying that any of this can be proved in any science. I'm saying it's how REAL they make it seem. Right now, with Daphne's power there is just no way they can make it seem real. Controlling stuff with the mind is more real than Daphne's power, so is super strength. Because, at least, they wont rip you apart.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I do think this is a rather subjective POV. However, I think there's a better way to explain why people think that you can't just single out one power and call it "unrealistic".
Let's look over a list of powers we would have to nix because they aren't real enough for the show and would have adverse effects on themselves:
Flight: Nathan, Peter - They would freeze to death traveling that fast high in the air. Their eardrums would explode from the sonic booms they create. Their eyeballs would dry up. Maybe even swallow a bug or two.
Cryokenisis: Tracy - One word - hypothermia.
Computer talking thingy: Micah - My guess is he'd probably electrocute himself or fry his own brain. You know how much information is on the net? This guy should have been at the top of the list of unrealistic abilities.
Cell Regeneration: Claire - When Sylar cut off her scalp, she wasn't sporting a new hair cut when he put it back on. Did he make sure not to ruin her hair? Or did her hair re-grow? Does that mean she can never get a haircut or cut her fingernails? Will she end up looking like Cousin Itt?
Strength: Mohinder - Imagine the damage he could do to himself if he scratched himself in his sleep.
Pryokenisis: Claire's real mommy - 50th degree burns. And her clothes would set on fire. She could/should have been naked every episode. I think nail polish is flammable too. She would look like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
Mind Reading/Telepathy: Parkman - If reading one mind can cause his nose to bleed, his brain should have hemorrhaged or exploded when Ando touched him.
I could go on but there would be no cast left. To be fair, if you get specific with one ability, you have to get specific with all abilities. Science, physics, all that groovy stuff should be left out of the equation. We should assume that each character is immune to their own ability. Everyone will have their own perspective and personal bias. The point is, there's really no way they can make any ability seem real, so they do the best they can. We have to accept it and appreciate it.
Level5
02-24-2009, 05:00 PM
j-kent, I never said I wanted this to be real, nor do I think any of it is, but I have to draw the line at some point of what level of fiction I'm welling to accept. And I also don't like you saying that I have somehow warped the reality that this is real, what, are you saying I'm retarded?
I can tell you that I don't watch this TV show because it's just "cool" like: "look daddy someone using a power!" NO, I watch this TV show because I could get into it. And question every little aspect of it, and somehow still come out with the illusion that it's just freaking awesome.
Alright, Lets say Daphne is immune to her on power, then great, I can believe and accept that, but the writers didn't even drop a hint on how her power works. But you know, maybe that's just expecting too much out of this show anymore. It's just about mutants with powers, getting hunted and destroying the world. You know maybe if the writing was a little better, then I wouldn't even have enough time to think about this stuff. But this episode did nothing but make me think Heroes is just a dumb, stupid, unbelievable show about crazy mutants with powers. I'll tell you right now, Heroes is quickly losing me as a viewer.
Oh, and none of you have told me how Daphne is able to carry people with her, yet.
Flight: Nathan, Peter - They would freeze to death traveling that fast high in the air. Their eardrums would explode from the sonic booms they create. Their eyeballs would dry up. Maybe even swallow a bug or two.
I agree with you on this one, they need to put limits on how fast, and how high he can fly. Then, and only then, could I see this being an acceptable ability for this show.
Cryokenisis: Tracy - One word - hypothermia.
Tracy's immune to her own power like the pryokenisis people. So I'm fine with this, because it's acceptable on some level. Her ability makes it have no affect on her, simple.
Computer talking thingy: Micah - My guess is he'd probably electrocute himself or fry his own brain. You know how much information is on the net? This guy should have been at the top of the list of unrealistic abilities.
Again this has something to do with his ability. He's ability is to talk to computers, and who's to say he's downloading every bit of information on the web? And the brain can hold quiet a lot of stuff, dude. So who's to say you can't actually download and store all of the Internet?
Strength: Mohinder - Imagine the damage he could do to himself if he scratched himself in his sleep.
Super strength means exactly what it sounds like, He's really strong and can't be hurt easily. So I can accept this ability, because it's believable on some level. And who scratches themselves in their sleep?
Pryokenisis: Claire's real mommy - 50th degree burns. And her clothes would set on fire. She could/should have been naked every episode. I think nail polish is flammable too. She would look like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
Again, immune to her own ability, so fire doesn't hurt her. And, yes her clothes would burn off, but come on dude, they can't do that on TV. :lol:
Mind Reading/Telepathy: Parkman - If reading one mind can cause his nose to bleed, his brain should have hemorrhaged or exploded when Ando touched him.
It was a simple inconsistency. You know, they have quiet a few of them in this show.
So, right now, the two things that are killing this show for me, are the superspeed ability, and the flying ability. They need to put limits on them both, and bring them more down to earth.
HeroOfKrypton
02-24-2009, 05:44 PM
Your right none of this is real, but her power is so fake in fact, that nobody should except it.
Most of the powers on this show, at least, make some sense. but Daphne would need other powers to make hers work. she would need a special suit, something that wouldn't catch fire from the friction. And she would need super strength to take the force of moving that fast. And she would need to have super fast eye sight, and the ability to make really fast decisions.
I like to think of it more as everything slows down around here. Similar to how you sometimes view things on Smallville. When she runs, it's very fast but to her she is running a normal speed, though she would have to have very strong lungs to run that long, which is part of the power.
Level5
02-24-2009, 06:02 PM
Well, I guess you could say she slows down time so it just looks like she's running really fast, but that's not what we've been made to believe, and that's not what Daphne has said. She doesn't run fast, she runs really fast!
Although I like your theory, and I would accept that as a believable enough power to be on this show. But, sadly that's not what I think it is.
LILVILLE
02-24-2009, 06:11 PM
omg r we in physics class...who cares that is not real enuff 4 u its a freakin tv show..chill out and enjoy it...back on topic glad daphne is still alive but i hope the govt kills here so matt can go nuke on dc that wuld b nice...peter and hiro could b in on it 2 so that explains why peter and hiro are terrorist in the future eps we c..and mayb matt doesnt make it...
Level5
02-24-2009, 07:34 PM
omg r we in physics class...who cares that is not real enuff 4 u its a freakin tv show..chill out and enjoy it...
OK, I'll just go watch children's cartoon then, thanks. Because honestly, I think, a cartoon would be more enjoyable then this right now.
I don't think it's just be that feels this way, but rather 8 million other people who have stopped watching this show, because it's just becoming stupid, and unbelievable. Like I said, I don't need to understand how the abilities work; just as long as they stay within the amount of fiction I'm willing to take is enough for me. But, Daphne's power has crossed the line, and so has Nathan's flying ability for that matter. Get rid of them, or bring them down to earth a little, and I'm happy. Because, these are honestly the only abilities I've disliked so far; the rest stay within the amount of fiction I can take.
And I would appreciate it if you would stop turning this into a flame war, and actually bring something logical to the discussion.
Phantazma
02-26-2009, 12:15 PM
My speculative theory on Daphne's ability:
Daphne's super speed is probably the result of traveling slightly out of phase with the 4th dimension (time). It's probably the reason why Hiro (time traveler) was able to "catch up" with her when they first met. Also, when Ando supercharged Daphne's power, she was able to super speed (time travel) a few seconds/minutes into the future. I think that's why Daphne can take other people with her through the "speed force" (DC Flash reference) or some such temporal dimension transportation system.
Superboy2
02-26-2009, 01:33 PM
So Daphne heals faster?
Level5
02-26-2009, 03:15 PM
So Daphne heals faster?
I think they showed us that she was just hit in the shoulder. So I don't think she can heal really fast, which was why she was screaming in the flashback scenes.
My speculative theory on Daphne's ability:
Daphne's super speed is probably the result of traveling slightly out of phase with the 4th dimension (time). It's probably the reason why Hiro (time traveler) was able to "catch up" with her when they first met. Also, when Ando supercharged Daphne's power, she was able to super speed (time travel) a few seconds/minutes into the future. I think that's why Daphne can take other people with her through the "speed force" (DC Flash reference) or some such temporal dimension transportation system.
To me you're saying she's a time traveler. Which she isn't, or they don't want you to think she is. And there is also speculation that the 4th dimension isn't even time, but rather another spatial dimension. There has even been some speculation that our universe is 2D dimensional--probably means nothing; just thought I'd throw that out.
So over all, if they didn't say Daphne runs really fast, then I might believe that it's actually time travel. If it was time travel, then that would also explain why Hiro wasn't able to stop time around her.
Her power is just impossible to understand, which is why I have a problem with it. I can almost understand all the others, but the Flying and the Superspeed just kill me. Maybe I'm just thinking too much, though. I'm trying to find a way to make this power work in reality and just can't, because of physical limitations.
Seyee
02-26-2009, 04:04 PM
I think they showed us that she was just hit in the shoulder. So I don't think she can heal really fast, which was why she was screaming in the flashback scenes.
To me you're saying she's a time traveler. Which she isn't, or they don't want you to think she is. And there is also speculation that the 4th dimension isn't even time, but rather another spatial dimension. There has even been some speculation that our universe is 2D dimensional--probably means nothing; just thought I'd throw that out.
So over all, if they didn't say Daphne runs really fast, then I might believe that it's actually time travel. If it was time travel, then that would also explain why Hiro wasn't able to stop time around her.
Her power is just impossible to understand, which is why I have a problem with it. I can almost understand all the others, but the Flying and the Superspeed just kill me. Maybe I'm just thinking too much, though. I'm trying to find a way to make this power work in reality and just can't, because of physical limitations.
Lol just read Doyle comic and he mentions that some powers have immunity of their own power in ways like Daphne + Nathan and some powers don't. But once again the comics have already shown multiple times that w/e happens in the comics not always have the same lineup with the tvshow, but just wanted to put that out there. But the only thing I didn't like Daphne power was that HIRO stops time, the literally keep saying that, so unless he really could never stop time and it was always slowing it down then that would make sense why Daphne can still move in Hiro time freeze. Freeze = no time, no time = Daphne shouldn't even be moving.
targis
02-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Hiro dosen't stop time he just slows it down
Level5
02-26-2009, 05:56 PM
Lol just read Doyle comic and he mentions that some powers have immunity of their own power in ways like Daphne + Nathan and some powers don't. But once again the comics have already shown multiple times that w/e happens in the comics not always have the same lineup with the tvshow, but just wanted to put that out there. But the only thing I didn't like Daphne power was that HIRO stops time, the literally keep saying that, so unless he really could never stop time and it was always slowing it down then that would make sense why Daphne can still move in Hiro time freeze. Freeze = no time, no time = Daphne shouldn't even be moving.
Right, well maybe I need to read that comic, but I've been going off what they've shown in the show.
There are several factors Daphne would have to overcome to move at that speed, such as how is she going to breathe; how is she going to take the g-forces, and friction; the some with Nathan. I guess you could say they form like an invisible bubble around them, that protected them from all of the physical forces and lack of oxygen. Which at this point, would make the most sense, but that theory doesn't work since she is able to carry other people with her. Unless when she touches them, she extends her power to them, so that they can run at super fast speeds as well. But this is my point with this power, it's just too confusing.
Hiro dosen't stop time he just slows it down
I believe he stops it, unless you have something to prove that he doesn't?
targis
02-26-2009, 06:04 PM
I believe he stops it, unless you have something to prove that he doesn't?
Thats what they said on the show when Hiro and Daphnee were together and Hiro tried to stop time and catch her. Daphne was walking around at super speed but it looked like she was moving at normal speed. She then punched Hiro in the face and did used her super speed to run out the room.
Level5
02-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Yeah, I wonder if that means Daphne has some control over time then. Which if she did, it would make her power make a lot more sense.
ibecj83
02-27-2009, 08:10 PM
To be fair: Smallville didn't touch on aliens big time till Season 7 when the Phantoms were introduced. Beings that traveled fast were either Bart/Flash, the meteor infected, or of course kryptonians/kryptonian tech.
And doesn't the idea that we have no idea how her power works give some realism in itself. From what we gathered she was just a farm girl with a medical condition till an Eclipse, and then her body changed. Didn't care the exact science of her new life.
And even if she did check with scientists, I'll leave with this quote "Scientists are fascinated by puzzles, and I am no exception. I have been known to spend hours on a drizzly Sunday morning, much to my wife's frustration, indulging in the most elegant puzzle yet designed by man: the New York Times crossword." - Chandra Suresh
Wonder how long it would take scientists to truly understand how each ability worked, sides adrenaline. LOL.
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