Dollhouse #1.2 "The Target"

[KSiteTV]

Count down to the episode's airing and discuss it LIVE here! About 12 hours left here on the West Coast.

[CallMeClark]

1 Hour! YAY!

[Ginx]

On now :)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Less than 1 hour till, what I now call, "Intense Fridays"
BSG then T-TSCC then Dollhouse.
After these aired last Friday I was Buzzing:LOL:

[Ginx]

wow.. this episode just took a turn lol....

[Dezdmona]

I've read this story before...wonder how it'll end.

[KSiteTV]

Kinda weird question... but are you all finding this forum all right, or should it stay down where "World of Joss Whedon" was rather than alphabetical?

[Dezdmona]

Kinda weird question... but are you all finding this forum all right, or should it stay down where "World of Joss Whedon" was rather than alphabetical?

I really only come here on show nights, but so far I haven't had any problems.

[Ginx]

Kinda weird question... but are you all finding this forum all right, or should it stay down where "World of Joss Whedon" was rather than alphabetical?

I didn't see it right off because I was looking towards the bottom instead of the top. I was looking for W. :o

[Dezdmona]

So I was totally underwhelmed with this episode.
Josh, o Josh...why hast tho' forsaken me?

[Ginx]

So I was totally underwhelmed with this episode.
Josh, o Josh...why hast tho' forsaken me?

Yeah, I felt like I'd seen this story before and was just not totally sold on Eliza's acting......:\

[warriorrenegade]

I don't think her acting is the problem. Just the familiarity of the story. Also it seems to be an odd mix of characters. I can't bring myself to pick a favorite or root for either of them.

[Ginx]

I don't think her acting is the problem. Just the familiarity of the story. Also it seems to be an odd mix of characters. I can't bring myself to pick a favorite or root for either of them.

I agree. I don't have a fav character and no one jumps out at me and makes me super interested on their development.

[AngelaV]

I really liked this episode. I liked Echo much better in this episode. There does seem to be a LOT of characters to keep track of but I don't mind. I now count TWO Battlestar Galactica actors. Though Mark Sheppard was only on a few episodes (won't be able to see the last 10 episodes for awhile) and was still a bit odd to see him with "Helo" :) I'm liking that they won't just be stand alone episodes, that things will carry on to the next episode. It's what I like about sci-fi.

I like the pairing with Sarah Connor but man I hope Fridays doesn't bite both shows in the butt.

[actaeon]

Missed last week, really liked this episode. The show definitely has potential, I give it a 9. Classic Joss-- there's even a British character "in charge"! It is darker than what I expected from the man who gave us Buffy, but not without humor. Like when Echo makes the crack about "I have three brothers... none of them Democrats"!

There is classic Joss shortwave radio stuff-- Alpha, Echo. (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, foxtrot, golf, hotel...)

I think the show is going to get into some very interesting questions on the nature of identity. The idea of a person as tabula rasa (blank slate). Although it also looks like Echo is a slate that is not being wiped as entirely clean as the scientists hope. Playing this sort of character is an acting windfall for Eliza. Who I am glad to see got a producer's credit in the show, and who incidentally is looking exceptionally lean and fit!

[Pamela]

I really liked this episode. I liked Echo much better in this episode. There does seem to be a LOT of characters to keep track of but I don't mind. I now count TWO Battlestar Galactica actors. Though Mark Sheppard was only on a few episodes (won't be able to see the last 10 episodes for awhile) and was still a bit odd to see him with "Helo" :) I'm liking that they won't just be stand alone episodes, that things will carry on to the next episode. It's what I like about sci-fi.

I like the pairing with Sarah Connor but man I hope Fridays doesn't bite both shows in the butt.

I agree with you on all counts. I want to add that I liked the exchanges between Echo and her handler (sorry I can't remember the character's name right now). If Echo does continue to show signs of a personality when she isn't imprinted (which I think she will), their relationship will only get more interesting.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I liked this episode better than last week's. I didn't expect Dollhouse to be the Echo Show.
I thought each episode would be about different "actives" or more than one and their
assignments. I like ED, but I could get tired of her too. The flashbacks, kept me on my toes:)

Was the girl (with the Lasagna) living across from "Helo", the employ at the Dollhouse?

I actually like the adrenaline rush stories and then the inevitable "Did I fall asleep?"

[L'or]

I really liked this episode, it might not be extremely original but they handled the whole psychopath/hunter thing rather well. :D

And I wanna see Echo remember a little more each time and how she reacts to it, if she does -and I definitely think she will.

I also hope we'll hear more about Alpha's character and know his relationship with Echo.

I agree with you, Pamela, the relationship between Echo and her handler (Langton) is definitely one of the things I like most!
And I'm curious to see how it all develops as Echo gets more and more pieces of herself.

My favorite quote of this episode:
"She's not a girl. She's not even a person, just an empty hat... until you stuff a rabbit in it."

[Hopefulsuicide]

Really enjoyed this episode (big surprise :p)

First things first, i think it was incredibly important to get a sense of the relationship between handler and doll early on. i wanted to understand how he felt about her, and i actually feel connected to that now... now, as i imagine storylines for the future in which echo has escaped the dollhouse, i can see him helping her much like Giles with Buffy... It's not quite the same father daughter relationship but it is obvious that he cares about her.

And it would be incredibly hard not to, when an innocent and helpless person lays before you and declares they trust you with their life. I think from that point on you would feel obliged to honour that trust... to never ever let them down and see the confusion in their eyes.

Another thing i liked about this episode was the slow eeking out of the villain's history, which is both vicious and intreuging. and then considering the villain's present. what does he want with echo? does he want her to join in and bring down the Dollhouse. or are the bits of personalities he remembered too psychopathic to have an agenda that focused? He's a frightening villain, but if he remembers his life before becoming a doll then he will be a villain with a justified vendetta... and that is the kind of villain that is equally hard to hate and hard to reason with.

I thought Eliza's acting was better in this episode, and that Topher's lines, while not quite being pulled off well enough in places, at least provided the sense of 'whedoness' in the script. The auteur style that requires an element of that specific humour.

In the episode i really want to see

1. More dolls, and their interaction with each other
2. Something that warms me to Ballard, who i like, but needs more depth

[dru-zod2501]

so out of 2, the Alpha-related episode was easily the better.

The obstacle now is to make non-Alpha-related episodes as interesting, with rockstar groupies and psycho fans? they got their work cut out for them next week

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think this episode is better than last week's. I liked it. :)

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Like when Echo makes the crack about "I have three brothers... none of them Democrats"!

:lol:

I liked that line.

[slayfan]

I really liked this episode. I was interested when I saw last weeks ep, but now I think I'm hooked. I really like the relationship between Echo and her handler and as someone else stated I see quite a bit of potential there. We all know that Joss can write these kinds of relationships very well. I like the pace at which things are going and it looks like it is going to be a very interesting ride. My only complaint with the show is that to me the dollhouse just seems like a big prostitution ring which I don't like. Rich men come in put in an order for the perfect date, have said date with lots of sex and then send the girl back to have it erased from her memory. I thought going into this is would have more of a justice/mission angle and there be a real purpose to having these 'Dolls' that they can make into the perfect undercover agent as they actually become these people insead of just acting like it. But I have enough faith in Joss that a grander purpose will eventually be revealed.

[dreamsofnever]

I really liked this episode. I was interested when I saw last weeks ep, but now I think I'm hooked. I really like the relationship between Echo and her handler and as someone else stated I see quite a bit of potential there. We all know that Joss can write these kinds of relationships very well. I like the pace at which things are going and it looks like it is going to be a very interesting ride. My only complaint with the show is that to me the dollhouse just seems like a big prostitution ring which I don't like. Rich men come in put in an order for the perfect date, have said date with lots of sex and then send the girl back to have it erased from her memory. I thought going into this is would have more of a justice/mission angle and there be a real purpose to having these 'Dolls' that they can make into the perfect undercover agent as they actually become these people insead of just acting like it. But I have enough faith in Joss that a grander purpose will eventually be revealed.

That's kind of what I got from it, Slayfan. though I think you're right, the grander purpose will be revealed.

This most recent episode was really creepy to me, but I liked Echo developing enough to take the guy down. I liked that she went against her imprinting and told her handler "No, I it WON'T be okay." that was cool.

I am interested to see the next ep, but I'm still undecided about whether I'm going to keep watching this. But my curiosity is piqued! I need to track down the first ep though, so to be fair, I need that to make a full decision about how I like the series.

[CallMeClark]

Talk about a complete 180. That episode was one of the most exciting pieces of TV I have witnessed this year! Wow! Such an improvement from last week (not that last week was bad). But I love the way they put this episode together. Each commercial break had me wishing I could fast forward to see what happened.

I really like the relationship with Echo and her "handler." Reminds me of Buffy/Giles in a way.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I really liked this episode. I was interested when I saw last weeks ep, but now I think I'm hooked. I really like the relationship between Echo and her handler and as someone else stated I see quite a bit of potential there. We all know that Joss can write these kinds of relationships very well. I like the pace at which things are going and it looks like it is going to be a very interesting ride. My only complaint with the show is that to me the dollhouse just seems like a big prostitution ring which I don't like. Rich men come in put in an order for the perfect date, have said date with lots of sex and then send the girl back to have it erased from her memory. I thought going into this is would have more of a justice/mission angle and there be a real purpose to having these 'Dolls' that they can make into the perfect undercover agent as they actually become these people insead of just acting like it. But I have enough faith in Joss that a grander purpose will eventually be revealed.

I actually was watching and thinking 'isn't this a form of rape?' which is completely controversial, but will probably fuel some very intensely emotional episodes when Echo begins to get her memory back (as she most definately will)

[Shadowlord367]

Missed last week, really liked this episode. The show definitely has potential, I give it a 9. Classic Joss-- there's even a British character "in charge"! It is darker than what I expected from the man who gave us Buffy, but not without humor. Like when Echo makes the crack about "I have three brothers... none of them Democrats"!

There is classic Joss shortwave radio stuff-- Alpha, Echo. (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, foxtrot, golf, hotel...)

I think the show is going to get into some very interesting questions on the nature of identity. The idea of a person as tabula rasa (blank slate). Although it also looks like Echo is a slate that is not being wiped as entirely clean as the scientists hope. Playing this sort of character is an acting windfall for Eliza. Who I am glad to see got a producer's credit in the show, and who incidentally is looking exceptionally lean and fit!

Agreed. I know you said you missed the first episode, but one of the first things Echo said was "Have you ever cleaned an actual slate? Ya always see what was on it before." Foreshadow much, Joss?

I agree the radio shortwave stuff is cool, that was a in the show's trivia section on TV.com actually. Again, Ironic Echo gets the name "Echo." ;)

[CallMeClark]

I would like to see more humor but I think the show is completely different than Buffy. Buffy was serious, as is Dollhouse, but much more playful due to the premise and the age-range.

[Xanderman]

I agree with everyone, this was a big improvement on last week's. Apparently this episode was moved up the schedule by the network as they thought the script/story was particularly strong (it was originally meant to air at around ep#5 or something). I like how the series is already interestingly layered and that there is a definite focus on continuity. For example, they had Agent Ballard investigating the events of last week's episode when they could have just forgotten about it (as "standalone" based shows do). Good on Dollhouse for that. The flashbacks were done well and really added a lot to the episode throughout. The nice thing about this style of story (or backstory) development is that it allows them to bring to light the important events of the past while still driving the current plot/story forward.

Better writing and dialogue (and one-liners) this time around as well. Sometimes it can be cheesy/lame however, especially with Topher. He sounds way too much like a Buffy or a Willow (or a Veronica Mars/Chloe Sullivan) type character, and that's NOT a compliment for a guy. Lol. Honestly, "now-ish", "kinkies" and his other cutesy lines are so not manly. Please, somebody put Topher out of his goddamn misery. lol (I can't remember if the dudes on Firefly talked that way but if they did I didn't really notice it there.)

More corniness comes from the FBI Agent Ballard sideplot, in that they are over-killing the whole being "ridiculed" by his fellow agents thing. I understand that they want to "Mulder" him up (or Terminator "Ellison" him up), they just need to be more subtle with how they go about it otherwise it just comes off as trying too hard and lame. That said I liked that jerk agent Ballard was interacting with in that crime scene they were investigating--funny character (good casting choice there). Another thing with regards to the Ballard plot I wanted to mention was his neighbor being a somewhat desperate single woman romantically interested in him--reminded me of Spider-Man. heh Besides the Ballard/Ellison similarity between Dollhouse and Terminator, the British woman in charge on Dollhouse reminds me of the Scottish Weaver on TSCC, who is similarly in charge of a corporation there. Can't help but see these similarities especially when the shows are back to back.

I was reading online for more Dollhouse group backstory, and apparently it's a 5 year commitment the dolls willingly sign up for, after which they are to get paid a very large sum of money with their memories of their experiences erased. This is extremely similar to the John Woo movie Paycheck which I saw recently on tv.

So Echo is showing signs of clearly being special/different (the "Neo" of Dollhouse), which is probably linked to why the mysterious "Alpha" spared her. Echo is showing that she can resist imprints (like trusting Boyd no matter what), and that "echoes" of past imprints (including her original self) still reside in her. As Becky (and others I'm sure) similarly speculated, I think I can see where this could be heading--one day Echo will have access to all her past imprints (and abilities) and will be a veritable "super woman", a female "Pretender". The people behind Dollhouse will have inadvertently created their own worst enemy. She'll be on the run in a way probably similar to the Dark Angel/Pretender format. And just like in those series, there were other "escapees"--Alpha will probably play that role on DH.

Gave this week's an 8/10. Still not at the top of its game but the potential is really showing itself.



Topher's lines, while not quite being pulled off well enough in places, at least provided the sense of 'whedoness' in the script.Maybe a little too whedonesque for its own good I think, lol. When it's not pulled off right it comes off as quite lame. I'm starting to think I should start a "Topher Must Die" fanclub. lol j/k

[KSiteTV]

I finally got around to watching the second episode, despite being less than pleased with the first.

On the good side, the last 20 minutes or so were quite good. Before that, I was just really confused. So much jumping around timeline wise.. I didn't get it. I also don't really like that these characters are basically hookers... I mean, she did sleep with someone there that she hardly knew.

They keep saying it gets good around episode #6 or so. I don't think it's quite there yet. I hope they keep away from the jumping timelines in the future, though.

[Shadowlord367]

The show has a thirteen episode order. We can't really afford to wait till episode six to let the show get good.

On the other side, Buffy didn't really be come incredible until season two. In fact, I still find season one to be strange, lame in places, but not without an offbeat charm.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I like how the series is already interestingly layered and that there is a definite focus on continuity. For example, they had Agent Ballard investigating the events of last week's episode when they could have just forgotten about it (as "standalone" based shows do).

If there's one thing that whedon and his time get right, it's the continuity. I respect them so much for that :)



Better writing and dialogue (and one-liners) this time around as well. Sometimes it can be cheesy/lame however, especially with Topher. He sounds way too much like a Buffy or a Willow (or a Veronica Mars/Chloe Sullivan) type character, and that's NOT a compliment for a guy. Lol. Honestly, "now-ish", "kinkies" and his other cutesy lines are so not manly. Please, somebody put Topher out of his goddamn misery. lol (I can't remember if the dudes on Firefly talked that way but if they did I didn't really notice it there.)

Topher is very much a 'Wash' like character IMO. Almost too much like him, but slightly more camp. Whedon's works often have gay inuendoes and sometimes gay relationships, so this doesn't surprise me.

I'm hoping we see something of Topher that makes me like him as a person. At the moment he's just a big camp nerd, and i'm sure there must be more too him than that.




More corniness comes from the FBI Agent Ballard sideplot, in that they are over-killing the whole being "ridiculed" by his fellow agents thing. I understand that they want to "Mulder" him up (or Terminator "Ellison" him up), they just need to be more subtle with how they go about it otherwise it just comes off as trying too hard and lame.

Agreed, it felt forced.




So Echo is showing signs of clearly being special/different (the "Neo" of Dollhouse), which is probably linked to why the mysterious "Alpha" spared her. Echo is showing that she can resist imprints (like trusting Boyd no matter what), and that "echoes" of past imprints (including her original self) still reside in her. As Becky (and others I'm sure) similarly speculated, I think I can see where this could be heading--one day Echo will have access to all her past imprints (and abilities) and will be a veritable "super woman", a female "Pretender". The people behind Dollhouse will have inadvertently created their own worst enemy. She'll be on the run in a way probably similar to the Dark Angel/Pretender format. And just like in those series, there were other "escapees"--Alpha will probably play that role on DH.

Gave this week's an 8/10. Still not at the top of its game but the potential is really showing itself.

personally i don't get the Matrix similarities because they don't have no memory... and if it's just because she's different/special... well then Buffy's like the Matrix too :lol: (the one/the chosen one)

but any tv show is going to get compared to all the others out there, and of course there are going to be similarities

i really like the Dark Angel similarity possibilities. i loved that show :)



Maybe a little too whedonesque for its own good I think, lol. When it's not pulled off right it comes off as quite lame. I'm starting to think I should start a "Topher Must Die" fanclub. lol j/k

No! give him a chance :lol:

[STFanatic]

I liked this episode.
What sold it for me was that I had company over while I was trying to watch it and I didn't lose the storyline.

[Xanderman]

On the other side, Buffy didn't really be come incredible until season two. In fact, I still find season one to be strange, lame in places, but not without an offbeat charm.A big part of that is the money put into it I think. You could tell more was spent in season 2, and then season 3 a lot more--S3 in particular stood out as a brand new show to me--suddenly the quality of the music/scoring jumped way up, and better cameras/film were in use. You really do get what you pay for.


INo! give him a chance :lol:I'm afraid I'm just not as open-minded a person as you are Becky....lol. Yeah I'll give him a chance. Was Firefly's Wash really like Topher? ugh...remind me to start hating Wash. lol j/k


I liked this episode.
What sold it for me was that I had company over while I was trying to watch it and I didn't lose the storyline.But did you lose the company? lol j/k

[Hopefulsuicide]

Well wash was married, and so a lot less campy, but yeah the tone and the use of quirky words... even their accents and voice pitch was similar

[Clois4eva89]

I like the concept of Eliza playing a different character in each episode.But they seriously need to cut down on the sex scenes,I know this is late in the evening. But seriously what does Echo getting it on with another character. Serve as a story plotline in the episode it's like they do it simply for ratings. Plus i'd perfer the sex scenes to be seriously cutdown as in.Not have them show up in the next 6 to 10 episodes,because so far it's been in the first two eppys. And already Echo is reminding me alot of Faith Eliza is talented so don't typecast her.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I'd prefer the good ratings... then we might get a chance at a second season. I'll put up with a few flashes of skin for that :)

[cousteau]

I finally got around to watching the second episode, despite being less than pleased with the first.

On the good side, the last 20 minutes or so were quite good. Before that, I was just really confused. So much jumping around timeline wise.. I didn't get it. I also don't really like that these characters are basically hookers... I mean, she did sleep with someone there that she hardly knew.

They keep saying it gets good around episode #6 or so. I don't think it's quite there yet. I hope they keep away from the jumping timelines in the future, though.

What's frustrating, is that I keep trying to see what whedon's plan is, but I don't think it really helped with switching episode 2 to being the pilot, and to be frank, being a little bit forthcoming on Echo's history as a character might make me feel a little more empathy for the character. Other problems I have are the woefully underused Amy Acker, and Reed's presence - don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that he's still getting work, especially after the travesty cancellation of journeyman, but I simply don't get why a person that hostile would be working in that project.

And Alpha! Who is alpha?! Should we care about alpha, is the storyline going to be a case of tracking him down? In which case, that errs dangerously close to the precipice of the bionic woman. I also have a problem with some of the casting; I continually fail to see why whedon is so in love with dushku as an actress - she's really the same person regardless of who she happens to be pretending to be.

Ugh. I really have to turn my IQ off for this show for a while.

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I'd prefer the good ratings... then we might get a chance at a second season. I'll put up with a few flashes of skin for that :)

I needed the flashes of skin to stay interested. As horribly sexist as it sounds, while I think she has no substance, I still maintain that eliza belongs in the porn industry.

[Hopefulsuicide]

Honestly, of the roles she's played so far, the only one i find her believable in is the blank Echo... take that as you will :lol:

Honestly though, i don't see any problem with Dollhouse resembling shows. I get a little tired of hearing all the similarities. I mean you can do that with every single show out at the moment. Every time something new comes out, people try to say it's too much like this or that... well actually i say it's got the best bits of this and that, and that's what's gonna make it great :)

[.marshmallow]

Definitely better than the pilot.
p.s. Oh and I liked that girl with lasagna :D

[Vergon6]

So I'm finally watching this episode now. Is the flashbacks in this episode what was originally filmed for the Pilot? I know they had to retool the show a couple of times.

[Hopefulsuicide]

No the flashbacks weren't part of the original pilot. In the next episode 'stage fright' there are a couple of scenes that are almost exactly like one's from the original pilot (Ballard and Victor and the atom bomb speech, Saunders and Topher), and there are a couple of scenes that have been twisted a bit (like the interaction between Sierra and Echo).

[Vergon6]

No the flashbacks weren't part of the original pilot. In the next episode 'stage fright' there are a couple of scenes that are almost exactly like one's from the original pilot (Ballard and Victor and the atom bomb speech, Saunders and Topher), and there are a couple of scenes that have been twisted a bit (like the interaction between Sierra and Echo).
Ah okay. How do you know which ones are from the original pilot and which ones aren't? I had actually watched episode 3 before episode 2, which was kind of weird to do, but I dozed off before episode 2 aired.

[Hopefulsuicide]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3236356/...se_1x01_-_Echo

This is the script for the original pilot.

Enjoy :)

[Vergon6]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3236356/...se_1x01_-_Echo

This is the script for the original pilot.

Enjoy :)
Ah okay thanks :).

[lorenzovanmatterhorn]

THE TARGET

The good;
Lots of it, exciting story and some great background. This may be the pivotal ep of Dollhouse as it's the first to suggest Echo is really moving beyond her programming and Alpha is set up as this big bad bogeyman.

The bad;
?

Best line;
Boyd (handing Echo a gun)" Know how to use that?"
Echo (handling it confidently) "4 brothers, none democrats"
Very cheeky for trendy lefty Joss

Packing heat;
Echo with a S&W 9mm. Boyd has exchanged his automatic for a .357 revolver perhaps in keeping with his backstory as an ex-cop.

Kinky dinky;
Echo and client play the naughty Girl Scout together.

Notches on the Dollhouse bedpost;
Echo; 2

How'd they get away with that?
Echo being hunted is horrible but nothing compared to Alpha slaughtering everyone in the pool! Amazing how much blood they got away with.

This weeks fantasy;
Echo is a fun loving outdoor girl and a sweet girl who loves fat guys in flashback

Total number personalitites;
2 for Echo making a total of; 8
Sierra; 2
Victor; 1

Total dolls;3
Echo, Sierra and Victor

Addy is a bit British;

Topher is a bit geeky;
He asks for a gun but no one trusts him with one

Subverting the Hollywood cliche
Hello Mellie, proving that women of a fuller figure can be attractive on US tv. Her real first name is Miracle? Were her parents hippies? Speaking of which in the flashback Echo is hired to be the girlfriend for an obese man as you would expect dolls to be but we never see him.

Bondage;

Knocked out

Kills; Boyd's driver and the Ranger killed.
Sierra; 2 kills
Echo kills the psycho; 1

Dolls injured;
Echo and Boyd badly injured

Capt subtext
Topher expresses 'Big, big man love' for Boyd and describes his eyes as 'dreamy'. Boyd is protective of the actives from the start and Topher tells him it's all about trust.

Happy hookers

Know the face?
4th Whedon alumni-Mark Shepherd was Badger in Firefly (and the 2nd BSG star for Jane Espenson to bring with her)

Guantanamo;
Boyd tortures the fake Forest Ranger to save Echo (Jack Bauer/Dick Cheney would be proud)

Fanfic

Missing scenes

Reminds me off;
Joss bascially reuses this storyline from the 3rd season Buffy ep Homecoming, it's derived from the famous short story 'The Most Dangerous Game' which in turn inspired real life serial killer Robert Hansen who hunted and murdered over twenty people after kidnapping them, releasing them into the Alaskan wilderness and giving them a head start. Also reminiscent of ED's horror movie Wrong Turn. Addy uses the term Tabula Rusa which was the name of a 6th season ep of Buffy.

Questions and observations;
Got to admit when Dominic walks away from Echo at the end I thought she just gave him a 'screw you' gesture. It wasn't until I rewatched that I realised she gives him the psycho's 'shoulder to the wheel' action. Is the drug in the canteen the catalyst for Echo's specialness or was there something before? I think if they'd have kept stories at this level Dollhouse would have been much more successful than it was.

8/10 MUCH BETTER
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