Could Sylar stop that bullet?

[DOyouBeLIEveAmanCANfly]

Just a thought but as soon as that guy paused with gun to Sylar's head, wasn't Sylar already out of danger? I thought he had already demonstrated that he could catch a bullet that was fired, why could he just reach back and jam that gun with his telekinesis to stop the gun from being fired...or he wouldn't even have to do that, just pull the bullet forward enough so that the hammer can't come down on the ...whatever the ass-end of a bullet to prevent the bullet from firing? I think that he could, but was just wondering about your input...

[targis]

Maybee if he prevented the guy from pulling the triger. but if he fired the gun I don't think Sylar could have stoped it in time.

[Level5]

Better yet, why didn't he just snap the guys neck with his telekinesis?

[the highlander]

he did it right... he got away.. stop the complaining...

[Level5]

Dude, this is a discussion board we're supposed to complain.

[the highlander]

well..... I will complain that we didn't get to see any peter development nor matts, so hopefully next week's epi is going to be awesome.... anyways... I want more of peter/matt and sylar...

But honestly... what I am NOT liking about sylar right now is that since he has Claire's ability he has gotten sloppy... he used to stop every single bullet and be more badass with his TK and now.... he is just sloppy.. everyone shoots him...

[targis]

he just dosen't care because he knows he won't die.

[Level5]

Well, according to the writers a bullet to the head will kill him.

[j-kent]

I know he still had his back turned when he tossed that guy but wouldn't it make sense that he can only use telekinesis on what he can see? because it should be that way

[Level5]

Maybe, but how does any of this work?

[Seyee]

LOLOLOL a bullet will kill someone in the head? Yes that's true. But let's all not forget that Claire got a branch stuck deep in her head once that's practically the same or worse than a bullet in the head. As long as the whole thing is taken out of the body, then the person will regenerate. I'm asumming that happened to Sylar too when he had a glass in his head.

[defga]

He probably could and would have. He was planning his escape for afterwards in that time

[Level5]

LOLOLOL a bullet will kill someone in the head? Yes that's true. But let's all not forget that Claire got a branch stuck deep in her head once that's practically the same or worse than a bullet in the head. As long as the whole thing is taken out of the body, then the person will regenerate. I'm asumming that happened to Sylar too when he had a glass in his head.

Right, I've made this point one hundred thousand times. Why do they keep saying, "OH, all you have to do is put a bullet right here. Right in the back of the head." I mean, how is that any different then a stick in the back of the head. Plus a bullet would go right through their head letting them heal, or their healing ability would push it out.

[targis]

Level 5 Exactly there is no diference. they should have said that the healers had to be decapated or something

[Level5]

Cutting off their head might work, but who's to say it wouldn't grow back?

[Seyee]

The head won't grow back that's for sure since it's stated that the brain controls the powers. The question is will the body grow back which it should since the brain should be able to grow everything else. Another thing I never understood is where the brains go after Sylar kills them? If Sylar was really smart, he should of kept the brains of some of the previous ones that he killed like Candance. I would be like O hrmm... I don't have my powers now, but when I do get my powers back I think I should go back and visit miss candance's brain so I can get the power of illusions. Sylar putting them in the fridge or something to come and visit the brain later would definitely work once he get his powers back. Same goes with Maya's brother that would of been a good way to counter Maya power and then kill her off the show. I REALLY HOPE next episode is going to be better than the last episode since it's about HRG vs Peter+Matt+Mohinder, gotta be good. But it fails... I think they should really consider having a fan who watched Heroes since season 1 to guide them on the episodes I know that would really help at this point -_-.

[targis]

Thats a good point. He may not have kept the brains but I guess that he could always just go and dig them up if it hadn't been to long. How long does it take a persons body to rot after being burried.

[Seyee]

Nevermind.. I just remembered why. It's because the writers at first wanted to show that Sylar eats the brain and not the power to understand how things work. I'm actually glad they did change that. But I think since they ploted "eatting the brain" idea first before changing it they always showed that the brain was gone because before he probably ate their brains. So this is just probably sticking with consistency (since in the first few episodes of season 1 the brains were gone) and so they continue disappearing the brain.

[Level5]

The head won't grow back that's for sure since it's stated that the brain controls the powers.

If this power is in the brain, then how come it worked on HRG with his brains blown out?

[Seyee]

Eh I think that was because of Claire's blood healed everything and we already saw scenes where Claire, Peter can heal even if their brains are damaged. HRG only got shot in one eye didn't really mean the whole brain was damaged. I think the important thing was that Claire's blood (Assuming that the Claire's blood chemistry is somewhat involving her brain, for example the brain controls practically everything in the body so it might has some influence there). Although the writers are trying to stay off that trick of reviving people with Claire's blood because it's just -_- too easy bringing the dead back like that. You can say that part overall was a loophole or bad writing because if that's true then no matter what no one really dies. Claire's blood if she wanted could definitely revive anyone and anytime such as Arthur. What they should of done if they really wanted to keep that was to put a limit on claire's blood such as the time limit say.. uh if the person has died within 5 minutes (the usual time where your brain is considered brain dead or where you brain is losing oxygen so your losing brain cells) then she can bring any person back if they have their brain intact (excluding victims of sylar).

But I guess overall it's a good thing the writers disregarded Claire's blood curing everything and reviving everything. That way we the viewers would be dramatize when someone dies since they didn't limit Claire's revival blood injection. For instance she could of revive Noah Jr if she wanted too lol or Arthur this season.

[Level5]

Well, I think HRG was definitely brain dead by the time Mohinder injected Claire's blood into him. This ability might be produced in the brain, but that doesn't mean much. Because after it's produced it's then in the blood. which means, you would need to drain all of that persons blood out to really kill them. And I don't think the brain has much to do with healing, I could be wrong though.

[targis]

I think the power is in the blood not the brain.

Sylar is able to look at the brain and see how the person accesses his/her ability.

But then how does Sylar actually transfer the power. I don't know unless it is done subconsiously somehow using his empathic mimicry power.

[Seyee]

Yes, definitely brain dead because it takes time for Mohinder to carry HRG body back to the lab where he was handcuffed and injected. That's probably 15mins+ yeah the blood reviving things is a touch subject and I'm not 100% sure of the brain does have any influence on healing but I just recently watched some clips in Biology in my class wish I could show them to you if I knew the link. But some people believe the Brain can heal the body to some extent and they believe that's how some extreme Monks can meditate using more than 10% of their brain to do amazing things; such as putting a Monk's body in a cold waterfall, but the waterfall boils as it touches the Monks body because the Monk's body is extremely hot due to meditation. Monks are sort of known for knowing to control their body/brain very well and can do other things too that's kind of out of the extraordinary but it's risky though lol because if they really screw up then it might be the end of them.

But as your theory on draining all the blood. I believe what's really happening to Claire why her power is passive/automatic because her brain is constantly producing/making her blood the way it is. So that's probably the reason why if you shot her in the brain = no good blood.

EDIT*** Just remembered a tv show that's science fiction as well and it really talks what I just mention in a tv show called Eureka , season 1 episode 4 or 5 I believe titled Invincible where a scientist figured some technology for cellular regeneration (Claire) and they talked about monks/brains and how it heals. If you want to watch it I think it's still there at Hulu.com search Eureka invincible.

[Level5]

Um, I think it is produced in the brain. What I was saying, though, is that it's in the blood. it would take days maybe weeks to clear out if for some reason it stopped producing whatever it is that it's producing.

[targis]

I don't know
But what I do know is that the life of a person is in the blood.

[Level5]

Seyee, if this power was in the brain it wouldn't have worked on HRG.

Oh and also, saying that this power is in the brain would mean it wouldn't work if that person died. Like when Peter got a piece of glass in the back of his head.

[Seyee]

O yeah good point I miss that not sure because I know for sure when a person dies their organs are still good for several hours for transplant. So I'm understanding what your saying here, just like blood it lasts for quite a bit. I guess your right on this part, if claire does die you can take her blood and keep in in storage and it would still work. But in the end game we both know claire would need w/e object in her brain to be gone for her to live that way she can produce new blood with the power to cure things.

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No the source of the power is in the brain, but the blood does have power lol. I believe the blood chemistry was involved with Claire's brain producing something to make the blood the way it is.

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Just read your last post about: Oh and also, saying that this power is in the brain would mean it wouldn't work if that person died. Like when Peter got a piece of glass in the back of his head.

I think how both Clare, Peter, and Sylar both healed form brain wounds was because the whole brain was still intact just part of the brain was injured so the other part of the brain could just easily heal the wounded.

Edit#3
Eek lol let's drop this haha don't think neither of us is wrong just going with what I've learn in my health occupation program that my high school has. We learn about bloody/organs muscles in our anatomy class. But then again this show is science fiction so since the writers already have a lot of plot holes nothing applies! lol Anyway just wanted to say how that's somewhat related to what they teach in my Anatomy class/Biology.

[Level5]

OK, same with shooting someone then, it wouldn't totally remove the brain, and if it went straight through it would probably do less damage than a piece of glass or a stick.

But healing the brain wouldn't be like healing skin. It would require that the ability be able to restore memory and other things that are stored in the brain. Which makes it even more complex.

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Eek lol let's drop this haha don't think neither of us is wrong just going with what I've learn in my health occupation program that my high school has. We learn about bloody/organs muscles in our anatomy class. But then again this show is science fiction so since the writers already have a lot of plot holes nothing applies! lol Anyway just wanted to say how that's somewhat related to what they teach in my Anatomy class/Biology.

I agree, it is science fiction and it doesn't make sense, but what I've always liked about this show is that it almost makes all of this believable by explaining the little details. But it seems that over the last couple of seasons they themselves have gotten confused.

[Seyee]

OK, same with shooting someone then, it wouldn't totally remove the brain, and if it went straight through it would probably do less damage than a piece of glass or a stick.

But healing the brain wouldn't be like healing skin. It would require that the ability be able to restore memory and other things that are stored in the brain. Which makes it even more complex.

Yeah that's why we both came up with the theory that due to bad writing of how the healing works, Arthur isn't really 100% dead unless he's cremated. We both said that once the object is removed he'll just recover just like how Sylar, Claire, and Peter did.

And yeah healing the brain/organs is very complex looking at it from an ordinary person not like we can heal a toe or liver, nevertheless lungs or a brain. The way it's healing is a very complex level and fast too so they aren't even explaining /showing how it even heals HRG mass memory loss when he died but it did. He died for what over 15+ minutes? that's brain dead for sure just like when a person is drowning and you did CPR for more than 10 mins, but you were able to bring him back, he's going to be somewhat brain dead, not remembering how to do things.

Edit#2 As for the last thing you added.. Yeah not sure what fan/fans, or writer/writers came up with the overpowered Peter, Hiro, reviving people so cheap, etc. Most of those things were awesome and great the sad part is that they had to confuse the viewers because of some complaints and this made EVERYTHING pretty much screwed up. They should of stick with one thing and stick with it, if they going to change for any reason they need to like check 100 times to see if it screws anything else up. I too like how they did explain in season 1 all about the small details, like Mohinder talking science and how much % of the brain we use daily. But they stop that now and came up with other stuff.

[Level5]

Yeah, it is sad how these writers who get paid to write can't do a half decent job of it.

[Seyee]

Lol on the side note I think you and I think very similar on most of the Heroes aspects including loopholes, abilities, and where the writers did wrong at. That's pretty cool lol awhile ago I thought I was the only one who thought this way. Hrmm another thing do you know how to put up a Poll thread with options? I'm at the point where I have everything out, and checked out the 10 poll option box but I don't know how to make the 10 options.

[Level5]

I don't know how to post a poll--having just joined this forum myself.

And yeah, it is cool to find someone that just doesn't roll with the writers on everything. :)

[meeter]

I don't think he would have stopped the bullet not from that distance and especially when he couldn't see the gun.



well as long as were complaining i really thought the entire episode was dull...... *zzzz* the only good part was the ended when PEter and Co: drugged Noah

[jazzylg]

So technically, if someone found arthur's body, and surgically removed the bullet from his brain, he would be revived, peter could steal all his abilities back, and we could all sing koom by ya!:lol:

[Hopefulsuicide]

It's the writers attempt to give sylar, claire, peter etc an achilles heel... but it doesn't work

I kind of put it aside tho, cause there has to be some way to kill them or the story wouldn't work properly...

[shanemak]

I think Sylar should remain in the S.W.A.T. uniform, and instead of driving off, should have gone to the FBI headquarters and infiltrated them from inside. You know the saying, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. He could literally take the entire operation down single-handedly, with little chance of him getting captured.

[Yoshua]

The power is in the brain not the blood, this has been discussed many times but people don't always come to an agreement on it.


Xanderman and I had a 5 month long conversation about it or so.


The brain activates the powers in everyone through adrenaline, the healing ability starts in the brain and the brain gives the blood healing properties. But when the brain shuts down the blood stops. That is why when something is lodged in the brain it doesnt get pushed out like it does if a bullet goes into their chest. It either gets pushed out or coughed up.


This is also why if the brain gets a bullet in it to the right part of the brain the power becomes deactivated and the person can die.


As for HRG Xanderman and I (i think, don't wanna put words in his mouth) came to the agreement that it was either a loop hole or poor writing, or the bullet just happened to miss that part of his brain (IE: it wasn't a shot to the back of the head, it was a bullet through the eye)

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I think Sylar should remain in the S.W.A.T. uniform, and instead of driving off, should have gone to the FBI headquarters and infiltrated them from inside. You know the saying, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. He could literally take the entire operation down single-handedly, with little chance of him getting captured.

I agree, but from Sylars point of view his objective right now is to find his father. And he said that once he has his eyes set on a goal he never diverts and does everything possible to get there.



However he doesn't have computer skills, who will be able to hack into that laptop for him?

[Level5]

As for HRG Xanderman and I (i think, don't wanna put words in his mouth) came to the agreement that it was either a loop hole or poor writing, or the bullet just happened to miss that part of his brain (IE: it wasn't a shot to the back of the head, it was a bullet through the eye)

OK, but HRG doesn't have Claire's power. So, that would mean it wouldn't work. Because his brain doesn't contain the ability to activate the blood that was injected into him. So it could of just been bad writing, or the ability gets produced by something in the brain, and is actually an extra component in their blood that accelerates the bodies ability to heal. Meaning, it wouldn't stop healing them unless there was something like a stick in the back of their head that the ability couldn't remove. So, it just keeps the body in a dead like state while still renaming active enough to heal the body ofter the foreign object is removed. Because, being dead for more than 10 minutes would render your brain dead anyways. Which, would of most likely killed Claire when that guy throw her down on that stick.

[Hopefulsuicide]

The power is in the brain not the blood, this has been discussed many times but people don't always come to an agreement on it.


Xanderman and I had a 5 month long conversation about it or so.


The brain activates the powers in everyone through adrenaline, the healing ability starts in the brain and the brain gives the blood healing properties. But when the brain shuts down the blood stops. That is why when something is lodged in the brain it doesnt get pushed out like it does if a bullet goes into their chest. It either gets pushed out or coughed up.


This is also why if the brain gets a bullet in it to the right part of the brain the power becomes deactivated and the person can die.


i totally agree with this... but that's not why i think that Sylar was in no danger when that gun was put to his head... it's simple that the time in which the gunman hesitated would have given sylar enough time to use his telekinisis to throw the gun to the other side of the room... any hesitation that is slow enough for sylar's brain to kick in before a shot can be fired, is hesitation enough

for sylar to pause as though there were nothing he could do is kind of ridiculous, especially since he can literally freeze every single person in the room so that they can't even move their trigger finger...

[targis]

Sylar needs a bullet proof helmet.

[the highlander]

Sylar Magneto

[Yoshua]

he has the healing factor, just have someone screw metal plates to the back of his head :D

[Xanderman]

So technically, if someone found arthur's body, and surgically removed the bullet from his brain, he would be revived, peter could steal all his abilities back, and we could all sing koom by ya!:lol:Lol, except I think part of the reason Arthur stayed dead in that case was because of the Haitian's presence. His blocking ability probably neutralized regen-blood already in Arthur's system, not allowing it to "push" the bullet out as it heals (as what happened with dead Noah). So I think Arthur would stay dead even if the bullet got removed. However, if somebody injects new, non-Haitian-corrupted regen-blood into him, the way they did with Noah, I think he can be healed/resurrected. As long as the important areas of his brain--where his memories/personality/knowledge etc reside--haven't been irreversibly destroyed or decomposed (not sure how long that'd take to happen)--otherwise he'll just come back as a vegetable or a "blank slate" or something similar to that, like a mindless clone (the brain would be there, but it would be empty).


Xanderman and I had a 5 month long conversation about itAh yes, those were the days weren't they? lol


As for HRG Xanderman and I (i think, don't wanna put words in his mouth) came to the agreement that it was either a loop hole or poor writing, or the bullet just happened to miss that part of his brain (IE: it wasn't a shot to the back of the head, it was a bullet through the eye)Did we come to that agreement? Lol I thought just about the only thing we could both safely agree upon was that Heroes was stupid. Ha j/k (but not really, heh). Seriously I can't remember, you'll have to point me to those posts in your thread (I think we reached a stalemate due to the Adam comic, which I think we agreed we couldn't really say anything conclusively about since not too much time had passed and they never really explained anything afterward, which we both hated the show for if I recall...I know we both hated how they took Adam out). If we ignore web comics and just go by what the tv show did, I think my basic argument went something like this: The blood itself is made special by the person's power (which is sourced in their brain). This is how it is able to work in other people, like in Nathan and HRG. But if an object is in the person's brain, the person's brain can't be healed and so life can't be restored, and so the blood does nothing, and basically goes on standby until the brain intrusion is removed. (Bullets are small objects however and can be pushed out by healing action.) And if we include the web comics as is your preference, my argument was that Adam wouldn't have kept dying and re-awakening forever as he did temporarily in that comic. Eventually his blood's special healing factors would be "used up" and he wouldn't come back until his body is able to function normally again (in an air/food/water environment), allowing fresh/new "unused-up" regen-blood to be made. My thoughts were also that this blood would possibly "preserve" him longer than a normal "dead" person would last, meaning at a later date he could still be revived (upon being returned to a life-supporting environment). So the power is not the direct ability to heal, but rather the ability to produce this special blood, instead of normal blood. It wouldn't work in other people otherwise.


This is also why if the brain gets a bullet in it to the right part of the brain the power becomes deactivated and the person can die. This is how Arthur was killed, right. But what they did with HRG went against that, unless it was just in his eye as you said and not in the brain (or perhaps more accurately the special brain area?). I assume though we were meant to think it did go into his brain, seeing as he was instantly killed (which normally only happens when the brain gets hit right...don't know if just destroying an eye would do that). As I said above I think the reason the same didn't happen with Arthur was because of the Haitian's actions, which probably neutralized all his special blood, making it useless.

Of course, after that ridiculous "Mummy Returns" death they gave Adam, all their inconsistent time travel nonsense, Sylar getting back only some past powers but not all (super-hearing where you at? lol), it's pretty pointless to try to make sense of anything this show does anymore...if "Heroes" could ever be renamed, I think a better name for it would simply be "Holes". heh


OK, but HRG doesn't have Claire's power. So, that would mean it wouldn't work. Because his brain doesn't contain the ability to activate the blood that was injected into him. So it could of just been bad writing, or the ability gets produced by something in the brain, and is actually an extra component in their blood that accelerates the bodies ability to heal. Meaning, it wouldn't stop healing them unless there was something like a stick in the back of their head that the ability couldn't remove. So, it just keeps the body in a dead like state while still renaming active enough to heal the body ofter the foreign object is removed. Because, being dead for more than 10 minutes would render your brain dead anyways. Which, would of most likely killed Claire when that guy throw her down on that stick.You and I are basically on a similar page. I argued the "dead like state" stuff as well back in my neverending "Adam War" with Yoshua. lol The thing about having any sort of ideas/theories war with regards to anything this ultimately ridiculous show does, though, is that even if you win, you lose. heh But of course, what other show allows us to have such unusual and often fun discussions...Heroes gets props for that.

[Level5]

I know Adam died awhile ago, and I wasn't here at the time. So, I think I'll just say this: The way they killed Adam off was just ridiculous. I mean, Angela said it herself, something like, "What we didn't know, is that if your cells are constantly regenerating you never grow old." And that says to me, that it's not the ability that is keeping them alive. It's the fact that their ability is constantly restoring their cells back to a youthful state. Meaning, that if his ability was disabled, he would just from there on age like a normal person. So, the whole falling into dust concept just doesn't seem to fit in with what they've said in the past. Plus, what would of happened when the eclipsed came, would it of had the same effect on him?


The thing about having any sort of ideas/theories war with regards to anything this ultimately ridiculous show does, though, is that even if you win, you lose. heh But of course, what other show allows us to have such unusual and often fun discussions...Heroes gets props for that.

Yeah, this show has really let us down in respects to consistency. I don't know what the writers problems are, but it's getting ridiculous. Is it just the amount of time they have to write an episode? Or is it the fact that they just don't care? Because I don't know about you guys, but I've come to expect a lot more from the writers then what we're getting.

I mean, it's an interesting show, but it would be a whole lot more interesting if they could stay on some level of consistency.


Lol, except I think part of the reason Arthur stayed dead in that case was because of the Haitian's presence. His blocking ability probably neutralized regen-blood already in Arthur's system, not allowing it to "push" the bullet out as it heals (as what happened with dead Noah).

I might have to agree with you there, actually. The Haitian being present might of actually caused him to die. That is, if the healing is actually something The Haitian can stop. I would think he could stop the healing blood from being produced, but to actually keep it from working? That just sounds a little odd to me. Other than that, I would definitely agree with you 100%. But, you might be right; who knows, they just keep leaving us hanging on these things.


So, I think, since The Haitian wasn't present the bullet would of simply knocked Sylar out for a little while, and would have mad him a whole lot madder. But then again, that might just give the agents enough time to tranquilize him, and that would be bad.

[Xanderman]

I know Adam died awhile ago, and I wasn't here at the time. So, I think I'll just say this: The way they killed Adam off was just ridiculous. I mean, Angela said it herself, something like, "What we didn't know, is that if your cells are constantly regenerating you never grow old." And that says to me, that it's not the ability that is keeping them alive. It's the fact that their ability is constantly restoring their cells back to a youthful state. Meaning, that if his ability was disabled, he would just from there on age like a normal person. So, the whole falling into dust concept just doesn't seem to fit in with what they've said in the past. Plus, what would of happened when the eclipsed came, would it of had the same effect on him?Exactly, and besides that, did Adam never come across the Haitian in all his days? Unless the Haitian chose never to block him for some reason. As I think we've seen the Haitian able to block everyone near, or not anyone at all, or just a specific person only. As for what they did with Adam, the only way I can see that instant-dust fiasco explained is to do with his "biological/dna clock"--the idea being that dna may code for our aging as it does everything else. So once his power was gone, his body played "instant catch-up", as directed by his dna. As according to his dna's instructions, his time should have been up a long time ago. But even if this is where they were going with this, there is no reason he should have degraded TO DUST in an instant as well--he should have just aged rapidly and died. Then decomposed normally from there--becoming dust is NOT coded for in our dna I don't think, lol it's just what happens to dead remains over time (due to nature). Another possible explanation, is that Arthur may have had a "dusting" power of some kind, sort of like that Smallville meteor freak, that we didn't know about. But since we never saw that happen to anybody else, that's truly stretching.



Yeah, this show has really let us down in respects to consistency. I don't know what the writers problems are, but it's getting ridiculous. Is it just the amount of time they have to write an episode? Or is it the fact that they just don't care? Because I don't know about you guys, but I've come to expect a lot more from the writers then what we're getting.

I mean, it's an interesting show, but it would be a whole lot more interesting if they could stay on some level of consistency.No argument from me. Heroes' idea of consistency or continuity is doing something that doesn't seem to make sense at the time they do it, but then later on, doing something else to make the previous inconsistency seem to make sense afterall, in retrospect. One of my biggest complaints for the series over the years besides their inconsistency was their keeping too many mysteries/question marks going for way too long--like what they did with the mystery of how Sylar gained powers--man did they ever drag that out forever. Annoying. Especially since this show constantly changes things anyway. Revelations don't mean very much on a "here one week gone the next" show like this one.



So, I think, since The Haitian wasn't present the bullet would of simply knocked Sylar out for a little while, and would have mad him a whole lot madder. But then again, that might just give the agents enough time to tranquilize him, and that would be bad.This is what I think too. A bullet isn't a glass shard or a branch/stick or whatever afterall, it's much smaller. It would be pushed out by healing action of blood already made and inside of Sylar, just as it was pushed out of Noah's head/eye. And the reason this didn't happen with Arthur, was because of the Haitian's neutralizing effects, which might extend to the blood in some way (I mean if his blocking energy/force can alter/inhibit something in a person's brain from working to give them powers, why not also blood made special by that brain or power, I guess).

In conclusion: Heroes can be dumb, often lame, but at least it's rarely boring. Fun show. Nothing else quite like it on tv.

[kp1984]

The head won't grow back that's for sure since it's stated that the brain controls the powers. The question is will the body grow back which it should since the brain should be able to grow everything else. Another thing I never understood is where the brains go after Sylar kills them? If Sylar was really smart, he should of kept the brains of some of the previous ones that he killed like Candance. I would be like O hrmm... I don't have my powers now, but when I do get my powers back I think I should go back and visit miss candance's brain so I can get the power of illusions. Sylar putting them in the fridge or something to come and visit the brain later would definitely work once he get his powers back. Same goes with Maya's brother that would of been a good way to counter Maya power and then kill her off the show. I REALLY HOPE next episode is going to be better than the last episode since it's about HRG vs Peter+Matt+Mohinder, gotta be good. But it fails... I think they should really consider having a fan who watched Heroes since season 1 to guide them on the episodes I know that would really help at this point -_-.
He could have done alot of stuff with candance powers. At first i thought she was just a normole shap shifter but she could make people see things that were'nt there. Guess it's a good thing he had that damn virus or else he would have made everybody see stuff that was'nt there.

[Seyee]

He could have done alot of stuff with candance powers. At first i thought she was just a normole shap shifter but she could make people see things that were'nt there. Guess it's a good thing he had that damn virus or else he would have made everybody see stuff that was'nt there.

Oh yeah.. Her power was crazy if she was smart enough to use it. Technically she can't really be killed by anyone if she used her power properly. For example if i was her and that was my only power, I would constantly always be something else than I'm really am. She already showed that she could practically make any illusion so it's not far fetched to make her actually look like a dinner table or a chair while the enemies would think the person they shot or killed is actually just an illusion of her. She can make illusions of people too which is really crazy. Bottom line her power was limitless, if she really wanted to she could make it so it seems she has multiple powers like Sylar or Peter. Only problem with her power was that since everything was an illusion did this effect the person mind in the sense of touch? Like if she made an illusion of fire would they feel it? I'm not sure if they showed any example of that but if it did.... she would have one of the strongest power lol and only person who could really stop her would be old peter or the hatian.

[targis]

Didn't Matt do sort of the same thing to his Father.

[Seyee]

Didn't Matt do sort of the same thing to his Father.

Oh one thing you should recognize what the writers are doing is trying to keep powers alive that were pretty famous in season 1 or already introduced by either giving it to someone who can absorb it like peter or sylar or atleast at this point I can say Matt too since he got precognition or 2) Introducing a new character with that power like Tracy for example she has the ice ability that Sylar USED to have.

Let's take a look: Season 1 we were introduced with precognition, Candice illusion ability, eden persuasion ability, sylar freeze ability. They brought precognition each time in so many ways for example they first gave it to Peter and Sylar before Issac died, and once those 2 lost their power the guy that showed Matt and Hiro the future by painting in Africa was their replacement, THEN after he died they just randomly put the precognition power into Matt so that, that power stays alive within the series. But even before season 3 started Matt got another power where he can make you do things and SEE things based on what he wants you to think and this was to EITHER make his power evolve or to make it so both CANDICE illusion power and Eden's power be useful in the series within Matt Parkman. Since Sylar lost his ability of freezing due to Shanti virus they gave it to the new character Tracy so that ability doesn't die off, especially when there are a lot of characters introduced with a fire ability. Bottom line the writers like to preserve powers as much as they can that were really cool and famous in previous seasons. Abilities that I counted so far that were like this were: Eden persuasion, Candice illusion, Tracy/Sylar freezing, Micah/Hana electronic communication, and ANDO + Dapne = Hiro as we seen that those two combined powers can time travel to assure the viewers it's still possible to time travel without Hiro or Peter or Arthur.

[targis]

Yeah I didn't ever understand how when Ando and Daphne time travel they are able to control the whether they go to the past or future. The way I see it is if Daphne runs faster than time that would only work in going into the past.

[Seyee]

They did go into the past and not the future. I think it's the same theory of how Superman can go back in time by flying so fast he does something to the Earth Axis so he travels back in time a few days. This type of combo power of Ando + Daphne only worked going in the past and they showed that 2 times. So yes they have a person who can pretty much see the past (Daphne + Ando) and they got a person who can see the future (Matt Parkman) those 3 make a deadly combo regardless of Hiro for now. The two things I'm really looking forward to is them explaining Ando power and hopefully what's the status on Hiro's power or new power, getting tired of him being powerless.

[Level5]

Oh one thing you should recognize what the writers are doing is trying to keep powers alive that were pretty famous in season 1 or already introduced by either giving it to someone who can absorb it like peter or sylar or atleast at this point I can say Matt too since he got precognition or 2) Introducing a new character with that power like Tracy for example she has the ice ability that Sylar USED to have.

Let's take a look: Season 1 we were introduced with precognition, Candice illusion ability, eden persuasion ability, sylar freeze ability. They brought precognition each time in so many ways for example they first gave it to Peter and Sylar before Issac died, and once those 2 lost their power the guy that showed Matt and Hiro the future by painting in Africa was their replacement, THEN after he died they just randomly put the precognition power into Matt so that, that power stays alive within the series. But even before season 3 started Matt got another power where he can make you do things and SEE things based on what he wants you to think and this was to EITHER make his power evolve or to make it so both CANDICE illusion power and Eden's power be useful in the series within Matt Parkman. Since Sylar lost his ability of freezing due to Shanti virus they gave it to the new character Tracy so that ability doesn't die off, especially when there are a lot of characters introduced with a fire ability. Bottom line the writers like to preserve powers as much as they can that were really cool and famous in previous seasons. Abilities that I counted so far that were like this were: Eden persuasion, Candice illusion, Tracy/Sylar freezing, Micah/Hana electronic communication, and ANDO + Dapne = Hiro as we seen that those two combined powers can time travel to assure the viewers it's still possible to time travel without Hiro or Peter or Arthur.

You know, if the writers didn't screw themselves over by taking those powers away in the first place, then me wouldn't even be here.

Peter would of had Isaac's power, and Hiro would of had his power, problem solved.

[targis]

I mean when Ando and Daphne went to rescue Hiro they went in the past. Then they somehow went to the future back to the present.

What I meant was once Daphne and Ando traveled back in time to where Hiro was there should have been no way to travel back to the present no matter how fast Daphne and Ando ran.

I don't know about the Superman theory. I don't think they could have made the earth spin backwards and fast forwad again.

Atleast thats how I see it in my head. maybe I'm wrong though.

[Level5]

The theory around how Daphne traveled through time is the string theory, I think. Meaning, if you can get an object moving at the speed of light times that objects mass, then you can walk through time like it were rooms with open doors.

Then again, the speed she would have to achieve would be to fast for any living matter to sustain, meaning, it would rid her to pieces.

[Seyee]

Oh targis haha never thought of it that way but yeah I don't know much about all the theories of time /string theory. But I know more than the average person and I usually know when the writers screw up on time manipulation due to bad writing. Like they tell us one thing at first and suddenly change the way the power works is what they tend to do with Hiro's time manipulation power.

Eh I know how you feel LVL5 but atleast Peter and Hiro didn't die and their power aren't fully dead yet until they tell us what Hiro's new power is if it's actually new at all. They downgrade Peter's power even when it should be his old power so atleast they kept a type of form of his previous power, let's just hope that as he understands his power more he can keep more than 1 ability so it would really be like his old power but minus the touching factor. Hiro, I really hope he gets his original power back the thing I loved about Heroes was that no one was trully more powerful than everyone, they all had a weakness no matter how bad ass their power was, mainly all the powerful ones weakness was the Hatian. But Hiro had a dozen of weaknesses such as Daphne super speed counter the time stop for some reason, the Hatian, getting knocked out does the trick, electrifying him works too. Each Hiro had atleast 1 or more weakness in stopping them just like Arthur, there was no need to downgrade or get rid of a power. Peter's weakness was having too must trust in people and not always the smartest guy like Sylar who can always think of a crazy plan to get out of things. Crossing my fingers that the writers won't officially let me down on Peter's development on his current power and Hiro's soon to be power.