I hate Claire

[Hockeyking]

It's official I hate Claire. She makes me want to puke, she's 4 feet tall and a little ***** and acts like she's some kind of big shot. The constant second guessing of Hrg has emasculated him to the point he's no longer a cool character. I don't know how she went to the comic shop and found that guy but it's getting a little sickening.

[Alexander III]

I used to like Claire but she's just too tiny too little, so I don't wanna be a pediophile...so I gave up liking her.

[Hockeyking]

Yup I finished watching that travesty they call a show, and super Claire makes Lana Lang look like a invelid. Claire can do anything, not even the U.S government can outsmart her.

[meeter]

she's taking the rebelius teenager act to a totaly new level.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i love claire becuase think about real life for a second what teenager is not rebel. also think about verything she is going through being on the run since fifteen. you life is kinda screwed up. also if you went through all those opsticles and lived to tell about it wouldn't you be proud. so claire is a great charecter becuase it tells a real story of how a teenager who was a popular cheerleader would go through this. it would change your life. in the show it hasa different story for everyone with the same situatuiion powers. this is just how claire went through the whole process.

[FLyxNERD]

shes awesome...shes a teenager shes suppose to rebel

[haydenclaireheroes]

shes awesome...shes a teenager shes suppose to rebel


that is what i am saying because that is defently what makes this show so true.

[pycer]

Claire, like any kid in her situation, is pissed at the situation. Anger and angst and rebellion are what being a teenager are all about. In her teenage mind, that anger and rage at what's going on has transcended into anger towards the person that represents all that...HRG. I think they are actually working on a story arc for her that will make her now an adult, still a young adult, but an adult, and actually have some respect for her dad and he for her at the end of it...at least, Im hoping. It is time for her anger and teen angst bit to finish up and let her progress as a character afterward.

[STFanatic]

She is not my favorite character, but I like her.

I say bring back Maya :D

[pycer]

Uggg...Maya...they can bring her back so long as she just stands around and looks pretty...otherwise...not much use for her character...though in the realm of 'what would plausibly happen', she can eye-goop whammy an entire city if she wanted, or lost control, I would say on the scale of 'dangerous muties' she'd be near the top...they should have taken her straight away.

[targis]

If Claire keeps on helping people it won't be long before Nathan has enough and orders for her to be captured. It's not like he dosen't know what she is doing with all the survilence cameras everywhere.

[Level5]

I'm actually starting to dislike the way Claire seems to suck up so much time from the other characters. I mean, we barely even saw Peter or Matt this episode. Saw tons, and tons of Claire though, like always.

[Hockeyking]

I'm actually starting to dislike the way Claire seems to suck up so much time from the other characters. I mean, we barely even saw Peter or Matt this episode. Saw tons, and tons of Claire though, like always.

Exactly, she's getting air time not because of a important power, or great acting but because teenage boys get their jollies watching her. They are trying to keep the ratings up by relying on her storyline which should of ended in season 1. Good riddance if it's Hayden that wants out.

[Level5]

Oh my goodness, if that is true then this show is definitely going to fail.

[the highlander]

maya has no powers.

[Level5]

Right, I never even got why they even introduced Maya. Just to have her powers stolen, dumb.

[DOyouBeLIEveAmanCANfly]

Certainly also doesn't hurt that demonstrating Claire's power has to be the cheapest of all the graphical depictions of powers, maybe they starting to run into budgeting constrictions, remember the unbelievably crappy graphics of Nathan flying early on in the season? aside from people like Hiro or Parkman who only have to squint to show their abilities, I would say that most of the time claire's has to be the cheapest power to demonstrate...


but yeah I agree with how they're keeping her on for the young teenage good looks part, although you can't really fault a show that is sinking faster then the titanic and doesn't seem capable of understanding what the viewers want from trying to just throw in as many shots of a young hot star as possible...

I don't however think that having so little peter or matt was a bad thing this episode, for one I hate it when they have episodes that have too many disparate story lines so that you only spend a couple of minutes in each episode for each character, because they're so split up its really only this way, or the other which was frustrating in the last season, plus having peter, matt and mohinder just kinda step out at the end was a pretty badass tease to start off the next episode so from a storytelling point of view I like it.

Again though, I agree that Claire has become too much of a show focus, but considering I'm the guy that just wants to see the heroes storm whatever building Nathan is in and Kill everyone in it at this point then I'm not the most objective person to identify that

[Level5]

I never got why you guys complained about Claire so much, but now I think I'm starting to see why. I mean, she's just annoying, and gets way too much airtime. They've also made Claire way too powerful. She's killed Sylar and saved the heroes, what's next? Oh yeah she's going to become that super powerful girl in the future, right? Just starting to get a little annoying seeing them dumb down Sylar and others just to make Claire look good.

I used to really like Claire, but now it's just getting dumb.

[targis]

Let her go to college and come back in 4-8 years

[Level5]

I say just take away the 50% of show times she's getting now, and give her back 10%.

[j-kent]

I actually like they way they're using her character...she's saving powered ppl against nathan...she's kinda like the catalyst and the figurehead of this whole opposition

[Level5]

They're making her the center of the show; making her ridiculously powerful and smart. Let's see, She's like 4 feet tall and has a healing power. Hmm, how can that person take down Sylar, and save the Heroes all in the same season. Unless some writer was being totally ridiculous?

All we need is Super Girl Claire to save the day!

[Mini Wolfsbane]

It's official I hate Claire. She makes me want to puke, she's 4 feet tall


I used to like Claire but she's just too tiny too little, so I don't wanna be a pediophile...so I gave up liking her.

:confused: Are you guys kidding me? What the heck does her hieght have to do with her attitude or finding her attractive?

Yes, the character is really annoying and they give her way to much airtime.
The last episode I thought they should just change the name of the show to 'Claire'
because they put so much focus on her it crowds the other characters out of the spotlight. This is just a problem of how she is written, though and not anything else.

you can't place the blame on her physical appearance, because honestly that's silly. It's also really demeaning and offensive to go and do that since height has nothing to do with an actors skills or a character's depth. The character aside, Hayden really is a great actress and she should get credit for that.

In real life Hayden is 18, so I don't see anything wrong there with guys lusting after her since she's considered an adult. Good grief. So what if she plays a teenager and she looks young and is short? I think Zac Efron is hot and he does the same thing and he's 20 in real life. If guys think Hayden's hot, there's nothing wrong with that!


They're making her the center of the show; making her ridiculously powerful and smart. Let's see, She's like 4 feet tall and has a healing power. Hmm, how can that person take down Sylar, and save the Heroes all in the same season. Unless some writer was being totally ridiculous?

All we need is Super Girl Claire to save the day!

:( Why does everyone keep pointing out her height?
Just because she's short doesn't mean she can't do anything.

Other then her height (which probably isn't four feet.
That's really annoying how everyone's exaggerating it so much.)
I do agree that they are making her too powerful, or they're at least giving her too much focus.

[Level5]

I think Claire's Hot, I was just saying that a small person like her shouldn't be so powerful, or made to look so powerful. I mean she killed Sylar, whose done that yet on this show?

Oh, and she's 19.

And to clarify on the whole short thing, I was simply just saying what the other guys were saying. Didn't mean to offend anyone.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

Um...okay.

What's wrong with a small person looking powerful? Or to be more accurate,
why can't Claire be/look powerful eventhough she is short?
(I'm not trying to debate with anyone, just want to know your reasoning here.)

I think they're just giving her more focus then she needs or anyone cares for.
I'm sure she's bringing in a lot of male viewers, but she needs a break already.

I didn't know she was 19 already. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Level5]

I'm saying that she isn't powerful, her height actually has nothing to do with it, in this case. She shouldn't of been able to take down Sylar.

Yeah, the only reason I know that is because she's only like 2 months older then me. Not that I'm a fan or anything. Just read it somewhere. :)

[targis]

Mini Wolfsbane

Because she is small is the answer.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

Okay, thanks Level5.

Heh, yeah, I know what you mean. I read stuff like that all the time.

Targis, being small doesn't always mean being weak or helpless.
And just because someone is small doesn't always mean a person can't be powerful or intimidating. Haven't you ever heared of the phrase "Looks can be decieving?"
or "Good things come in small packages?"

Or even "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog?"

Like Level5 said, she killed Sylar and no one else did.

[Level5]

Actually, targis, I have to agree with Mini Wolfsbane. We shouldn't be saying her height has anything to do with it.

[targis]

ok

[Level5]

I really don't know what it feels like to be short, but I can understand that we shouldn't be saying that short people can't do things.

But in this case it's about the abilities that a person has, not about their size.

[targis]

I didn't mean that they couldn't do anything. I was just saying not powerful. I mean if I had to choose who to fight and could choose Claire or someone taller and more muscular I would choose claire.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

And to clarify on the whole short thing, I was simply just saying what the other guys were saying. Didn't mean to offend anyone.

:) Thanks, that means a lot. Not a lot of people are nice enough to say that.

And I didn't mean to drag this on and on, either. Generalazations like these just
make me a little upset. Usually I leave them alone, but tonight I didn't feel like it.

At least I didn't start ranting.

[Level5]

If you mean the Claire with the healing power. Then, you might what to choose the tall guy. :)

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:) Thanks, that means a lot. Not a lot of people are nice enough to say that.

I honestly didn't. I should of been more careful about what I was saying. I'm Just kinda in a rush to say what I'm trying to say. Without really taking into consideration that it might offend someone.

[Mini Wolfsbane]

Don't worry about it, dude. People have said worse things. (Not to me or anything, but I've read stuff.) I wasn't deeply offended or something, just a tad annoyed. It happens.
I was just trying to show people that being short isn't bad and speak up when discouraging
stuff is said. :)


I rush like that all the time, no big deal.

[targis]

what did I say?

[Mini Wolfsbane]

what did I say?

It wasn't really you that got me upset. It was the OP and that other poster saying
Claire was "four feet tall".
You said that you'd pick a tall, muscular guy to fight instead of fighting
Claire. And I agree with Level5, I wouldn't want to fight some girl who was self-healing.

[targis]

It's 46 degrees here. What is the temp where you are?

[Level5]

seriously targis?

[targis]

yeah

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Your in MO it should be colder there

[Level5]

OK, hold on, I forgot to refresh the page, and was actually talking about when you said, "What did I say?" But never mind about that.

To answer your question, right now it's 32 degrees.

[targis]

what about claire and the guy that can breath water. How long does she expect to be able to hide him in her room? the best place for him to go is to hide out in the bottom of the ocean somewhere.

[Level5]

Yeah really, just go for a long swim fishboy.

[j-kent]

why is everyone going nuts against claire? I don't get the impression that they're making her powerful or ever so cunning...that's ridiculous..she's always felt defenseless and not able, so here she is doing her best to oppose this whole operation. Nothing appears outlandish at all..the only reason she's acting aggressive now is because she's tired of not having control in her life.

[Level5]

I meant when she killed Sylar, but yeah, her saving the heroes was a bit extreme too.

[Hockeyking]

Listen here, the way the show is going I fully expect Claire to get adamantium bones, and claws, and spouting off that she's the best that what she does. Personally I can't stand Hayden Panentierre she's just another Paris Hilton, or Britney wannabe, and those tramps should not be put on any pedestals. By making Claire the focus of the show it's feeding her ego and making her more of a pain in real life.

[meeter]

Personally i just find Claire unintresting sorry to say it but when it comes to her and´noah i just simply think it's boring. im not intrested in their relationship at all i dont understand why we all have to watch that. i'd much rather watch peter matt and mohinder play twister then watching thoose 2 fight about lies and etc etc.. it almost reminds me of CLana in a wierd way.







Listen here, the way the show is going I fully expect Claire to get adamantium bones, and claws, and spouting off that she's the best that what she does. Personally I can't stand Hayden Panentierre she's just another Paris Hilton, or Britney wannabe, and those tramps should not be put on any pedestals. By making Claire the focus of the show it's feeding her ego and making her more of a pain in real life.


I believe actor bashing is NOT allowed here.....

[red_sun1938]

I'd watch this show again if Claire was killed off. That also applies for Mohinder and Parkman.

[kp1984]

I used to like Claire but she's just too tiny too little, so I don't wanna be a pediophile...so I gave up liking her.

She's only 5 years younger then you but I do have to agree. She dose look like a little kid.

[Yoshua]

wow, i must be the only one it seems.

I felt that she is being given much more believable story lines, if you follow the online novels you know how Rebel works and that Claire is working against the government with Rebel.

We dont know who Rebel is, but it is someone with inside information, right now I am hoping it is Rachel Mills but it is more likely Gettman or Micah.


Anyways. I love the new story line, everyone complains when she is a whiney teenager, now you are all complaining when she gets the guts to actually DO something?


I just don't think her character can win with some fans.

[DOyouBeLIEveAmanCANfly]

No man, the reason were all complaining is that in a 40 minute show about people with speacial abilities about 22 minutes were devoted to scenes about a teenage girl and the her angst and moral qualms about the job her father does. All we're saying is that the writers are copping out by just throwing their young starpower on the screen and not coming up with good and even storytelling for the rest of the characters in the show, you have to agree that the writers are blatantly just sitting in a room saying "oh look, now that Wolverine is the most iconic marvel character and getting his own movie now we should throw in a character with a similar ability but make it a girl to be even and everyone will watch our show regardless." its just disappointing that the writers seem to be so clueless that they can't come up with a good storyline any more for anyone who isn't young and perky and on the cover of tabloids everywhere. All i'm saying is that I'm watching this show to see people use their abilities to do something, so for god sake rob a bank, arrest a muderer, blow up a hospital, DO SOMETHING, but stop focusing on the little girl who is mad at her step-father, even though that is like, you know, the most original storyline ever.

[lauraforever]

I just TOTALLY love Claire as a character.

[Ginx]

I don't like how they use her character as something 'important' in every volume. Like they need to try and emphasize that she's important or else the viewers wouldn't care. I don't love the character and don't hate the character - I'm somewhere in the middle of not caring.

[Yoshua]

No man, the reason were all complaining is that in a 40 minute show about people with speacial abilities about 22 minutes were devoted to scenes about a teenage girl and the her angst and moral qualms about the job her father does. All we're saying is that the writers are copping out by just throwing their young starpower on the screen and not coming up with good and even storytelling for the rest of the characters in the show, you have to agree that the writers are blatantly just sitting in a room saying "oh look, now that Wolverine is the most iconic marvel character and getting his own movie now we should throw in a character with a similar ability but make it a girl to be even and everyone will watch our show regardless." its just disappointing that the writers seem to be so clueless that they can't come up with a good storyline any more for anyone who isn't young and perky and on the cover of tabloids everywhere. All i'm saying is that I'm watching this show to see people use their abilities to do something, so for god sake rob a bank, arrest a muderer, blow up a hospital, DO SOMETHING, but stop focusing on the little girl who is mad at her step-father, even though that is like, you know, the most original storyline ever.

Ok I get that complaint. Very justifiable. However this show is about the stories too. If you notice that there are typically 3 major episodes for each character arch.

Claire/HRG
Hiro/Ando
Patrelli Family


With all of the other characters stories as fillers and overlapping.



I was talking to my girl as we were watching it last night complaining about the lack of milo, but at the same time saying 'if they keep him out of this arc the next arc is gonna be Peter heavy'

And what happened at the end of this episode?


Peter is coming.




One thing i've liked about this season/chapter is how Sylar's storyline has continually progressed. Wish they could do that with all the characters but with this many characters it would give each character about 1 or 2 minutes of screen time a show. I like that they focus on one set of characters in each episode. Makes their episodes more intense and more driven then if you got watered down milo 30 seconds every episode and then 10 minutes in the finale.


ETA:

They have to do Claires story line in the beginning of each volume. Why you ask? Because she really ISN'T a major character when it comes to deciding the fate of the world, and she usually has minor roles at the end of the volume.


Volume 1? Save the Cheerleader, Save the world?

She didn't actually DO anything to save the world, Peter was all about her being the key, when in reality she just had to hide under a brick.

[Level5]

How much you do you want to bet that she'll still get more time then Peter, Mohinder and Matt in the next episode?

Seriously though, I'm just sick of her. I wasn't at the beginning of the season, but they just keep dragging on this whiny teenager thing. This is Heroes not Dr. Phil.

And the way they seem to give Claire power over anything is also annoying.

[Yoshua]

How much you do you want to bet that she'll still get more time then Peter, Mohinder and Matt in the next episode?

Seriously though, I'm just sick of her. I wasn't at the beginning of the season, but they just keep dragging on this whiny teenager thing. This is Heroes not Dr. Phil.

And the way they seem to give Claire power over anything is also annoying.

This volume has shown zero whiny teenager. That went out the door when she was abducted with parkmen. Since she was told to save parkman she has been all about action, so I don't get what you all are complaining about 'whiny teenager' She has been moving against her father whens he still has to live with him, and moving against her bio dad too when he is a powerful senator trying to protect her.


So far as I can tell she is helping Rebel lay down the ground work for a real rebellion, and when Peter/Matt/Mohinder get in contact with her again she can tell them all about Rebel and she will be the link connecting Rebel and the Rebellion leaders.


As for giving Claire power.... what do you mean? Right now she is just doing what her phone is telling her to do. That doesn't seem like power to me, that seems like a follower.

[haydenclaireheroes]

Claire, like any kid in her situation, is pissed at the situation. Anger and angst and rebellion are what being a teenager are all about. In her teenage mind, that anger and rage at what's going on has transcended into anger towards the person that represents all that...HRG. I think they are actually working on a story arc for her that will make her now an adult, still a young adult, but an adult, and actually have some respect for her dad and he for her at the end of it...at least, Im hoping. It is time for her anger and teen angst bit to finish up and let her progress as a character afterward.

i think so too.

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Certainly also doesn't hurt that demonstrating Claire's power has to be the cheapest of all the graphical depictions of powers, maybe they starting to run into budgeting constrictions, remember the unbelievably crappy graphics of Nathan flying early on in the season? aside from people like Hiro or Parkman who only have to squint to show their abilities, I would say that most of the time claire's has to be the cheapest power to demonstrate...


but yeah I agree with how they're keeping her on for the young teenage good looks part, although you can't really fault a show that is sinking faster then the titanic and doesn't seem capable of understanding what the viewers want from trying to just throw in as many shots of a young hot star as possible...

I don't however think that having so little peter or matt was a bad thing this episode, for one I hate it when they have episodes that have too many disparate story lines so that you only spend a couple of minutes in each episode for each character, because they're so split up its really only this way, or the other which was frustrating in the last season, plus having peter, matt and mohinder just kinda step out at the end was a pretty badass tease to start off the next episode so from a storytelling point of view I like it.

Again though, I agree that Claire has become too much of a show focus, but considering I'm the guy that just wants to see the heroes storm whatever building Nathan is in and Kill everyone in it at this point then I'm not the most objective person to identify that

i like clare and she is important to the show.

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I actually like they way they're using her character...she's saving powered ppl against nathan...she's kinda like the catalyst and the figurehead of this whole opposition


love your answer!

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I'm saying that she isn't powerful, her height actually has nothing to do with it, in this case. She shouldn't of been able to take down Sylar.

Yeah, the only reason I know that is because she's only like 2 months older then me. Not that I'm a fan or anything. Just read it somewhere. :)


i think claire is a great charecter and i think her power should evolve more to be a offensive power then defencive.

[Sweetie]

I hate her too.Ever since season 2,her attitude completly changed and she became a little brat.

[haydenclaireheroes]

why is everyone going nuts against claire? I don't get the impression that they're making her powerful or ever so cunning...that's ridiculous..she's always felt defenseless and not able, so here she is doing her best to oppose this whole operation. Nothing appears outlandish at all..the only reason she's acting aggressive now is because she's tired of not having control in her life.


wow i like that answere becuase it is so true. every one hated claire to be defenseless but now that she is defending herself and other people you hate her. she is just tring to be a hero. like hiro is doing. no one sad anything about him when he is doing the same thing.

[Level5]

Good grief People! How can you not see Claire for what she really is? She's whiny; getting why to much attention from the writers, and last of all they make her out to be some kind of super-smart-nobody-can-touch-me-know-it-all-brat.

[haydenclaireheroes]

No man, the reason were all complaining is that in a 40 minute show about people with speacial abilities about 22 minutes were devoted to scenes about a teenage girl and the her angst and moral qualms about the job her father does. All we're saying is that the writers are copping out by just throwing their young starpower on the screen and not coming up with good and even storytelling for the rest of the characters in the show, you have to agree that the writers are blatantly just sitting in a room saying "oh look, now that Wolverine is the most iconic marvel character and getting his own movie now we should throw in a character with a similar ability but make it a girl to be even and everyone will watch our show regardless." its just disappointing that the writers seem to be so clueless that they can't come up with a good storyline any more for anyone who isn't young and perky and on the cover of tabloids everywhere. All i'm saying is that I'm watching this show to see people use their abilities to do something, so for god sake rob a bank, arrest a muderer, blow up a hospital, DO SOMETHING, but stop focusing on the little girl who is mad at her step-father, even though that is like, you know, the most original storyline ever.


i hate people are saying think about all these other episodes of heroes that claire was never in mabe like 10 inutes of the whole show. she had one episode with a lot of parts and you are complainig you are callling claire a whiny child. how about all of you. also think about company man. company man was the best episode of the whole series and all had was claire.

[targis]

Really

This thread is called I hate Claire not I love Claire

[Level5]

Yeah, I don't know what happened to Claire, but she is just not likable anymore. I used to love her character, and there was a time when I would of hated to she her get killed, or kick off the show but not anymore.

[targis]

Claire sucks as a hereo she has no offense all she can do is take being attacked and recover quickly. what good is that.

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She needs to be able to do something her power isn't that useful unless they start using her blood to heal people and I don't think the writers are going to do that.

[haydenclaireheroes]

Really

This thread is called I hate Claire not I love Claire

well i like her and i am defending her becuase she is a good charecter and you guys are talking about a whiny brat girl but you guys are just being a brat because the show famouse line is save the CHEERLEADER save the world.the show is suppose to be about her. she does not have that many episodes with her a lot. it was just one episode just watch the next she wont be in it alot and you guys could still be ***** that she has 2 minutes in the episode.

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Claire sucks as a hereo she has no offense all she can do is take being attacked and recover quickly. what good is that.

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She needs to be able to do something her power isn't that useful unless they start using her blood to heal people and I don't think the writers are going to do that.


i will agree that they do need her to get more of an advanced power for her like the healing blood.

[Level5]

Um, she isn't even a cheerleader anymore. So that whole plot died around the end of season two. And now we have the new, and more whiny version of her character to live with.

I liked Claire in season 1, but she started to get a little annoying by season 2. And now we're on season 3 and she is still taking up more time then any other character. It's just the same old same old with her, "I want to be a Hero," stuff. So what do they do? they make her this unstoppable force that kills Sylar and saved the Heroes. How on earth? It's just gotten corny, if you ask me.

[haydenclaireheroes]

Um, she isn't even a cheerleader anymore. So that whole plot died around the end of season two. And now we have the new, and more whiny version of her character to live with.

I liked Claire in season 1, but she started to get a little annoying by season 2. And now we're on season 3 and she is still taking up more time then any other character. It's just the same old same old with her, "I want to be a Hero," stuff. So what do they do? they make her this unstoppable force that kills Sylar and saved the Heroes. How on earth? It's just gotten corny, if you ask me.

see this is what i do not get. the whole show is about people with extrodinary abilities right. not just extrodianry abilities. the people with them. so you have to tell a story about the people and that is how teenagers that are girls act. i know that because i am one and i defently can be a ***** somtimes. but that is how we are. but to get over it we get older and to get older we try to act older first. that is stage claire is in. but we all will grow out of it like a toddler out grows out of a stuffed animal. it is just a stage. but the point is claire is just trng to adjust to being a hero and saving people but she has to do it in her own way. or else the show whould be like robots becuase all these charecters would be acting the same except with differnet power. the point is that a cop who can read minds and finds out his wife is cheating on himhe is going to react like this. And a cheerleader or not a cheerleader anymore but a teenager who life is so confused is going to act like this. but the reactio is going to be different for both.

[targis]

haydenclaireheroes what does claire even bring to the show anymore? All she does 90% of the time is complain about what her stepfather does and that gets old when it happens episode after episode after episode it never changes. I predict that next week she will be at it again.

[haydenclaireheroes]

haydenclaireheroes what does claire even bring to the show anymore? All she does 90% of the time is complain about what her stepfather does and that gets old when it happens episode after episode after episode it never changes. I predict that next week she will be at it again.


you are right at that but what would you do if your father was hunting you would you be all happy and hug him and say i love you daddy. no you would fight and that is the reason claire is being so aggressive becuase she wants to be a hero and fight. but how do you not get a little braty if your dad was like the co runner of the whole thing. i think that is what the show is about we never know what hrg will do next but claire always thinks it will be bad and next episode we will find out if claire was right. to tell you the truth i think he is a lier and he wanted to protect claire before but in his heart he will always hate people with powers. now do you understand were i am coming at i think clire is step ahead. like in the last episode claire was defently a step ahead of the government her other father. why would she not be a step ahead of HRG. someone she lived with for more than 18 years.

[Level5]

The thing is, haydenclaireheroes, is that this isn't real life it's just a TV show.

I'm just trying to say that the whole Claire storyline has just gotten corny and unbelievable. If they want to continue pushing Claire's hard teenage life on us. then, I suggest they do a spin off.

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Don't get me wrong though. I'm all for character development, but not the same old story over and over again. We get it already, OK! Claire hates her life, and just wants to get out of the house. Why doesn't she just go off to college then?

[haydenclaireheroes]

The thing is, haydenclaireheroes, is that this isn't real life it's just a TV show.

I'm just trying to say that the whole Claire storyline has just gotten corny and unbelievable. If they want to continue pushing Claire's hard teenage life on us. then, I suggest they do a spin off.

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Don't get me wrong though. I'm all for character development, but not the same old story over and over again. We get it already, OK! Claire hates her life, and just wants to get out of the house. Why doesn't she just go off to college then?


ok well i was going to say the same thing that it is not reall life it is just a television show and liked the spin off idea. i thinkn this fighting is the development of the charecter to becomes something else becuase i think in a couple more episodes sh will defently change.

[Level5]

Yeah, maybe they're trying to make us dislike her to the point where we don't care if she becomes a villain. So, I wouldn't be surprised if she actually does become a villain.

[haydenclaireheroes]

i think she defently going change through these couple of episodes but not to be a villan.

[Yoshua]

Good grief People! How can you not see Claire for what she really is? She's whiny; getting why to much attention from the writers, and last of all they make her out to be some kind of super-smart-nobody-can-touch-me-know-it-all-brat.

This is episode 3 of the new story arch?

They only focus on one major set of characters at a time and the beginning of this arch is on HRG and why he is working for the government. The next story arch is going to be how the heroes get him to change sides and the final 3 episodes will be about how the heroes come together to stand against the government and stop the possible haulocast from happening.


.....These first episodes are the set up. They always use claire and hrg for the set up. And they use Milo and Hiro for the big finale, and everyone always comes on here in the first 5 episodes of any volume complaining about all the screen time claire gets.


It's like clockwork now.

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haydenclaireheroes what does claire even bring to the show anymore? All she does 90% of the time is complain about what her stepfather does and that gets old when it happens episode after episode after episode it never changes. I predict that next week she will be at it again.

I am not hch but here's my answer.


So far this volume she has brought.

1-Rebel to the heroes
2-Freed the heroes from being captives for the entire volume
3-Showing her father that she is willing to sacrifice herself to go against what is wrong, and hopefully that trait will rub off on HRG before he starts actually believing the lies he is spewing
4-Brought a new character who can breath water into the rebellion
5-Is the perfect lieason between the rebellion and the government




Those are just 5 things she has brought to this volume, but people would rather complain about her screen time then focus on the fact that the writers are actually USING her this season instead of being a random appendige that's only purpose is to keep other characters alive.





ETA-
Again, this is only the first 3 episodes of the volume, it is meant to set the story for the volume. They always use Claire and HRG in this way and in the end the focus is always on Peter.

[haydenclaireheroes]

This is episode 3 of the new story arch?

They only focus on one major set of characters at a time and the beginning of this arch is on HRG and why he is working for the government. The next story arch is going to be how the heroes get him to change sides and the final 3 episodes will be about how the heroes come together to stand against the government and stop the possible haulocast from happening.


.....These first episodes are the set up. They always use claire and hrg for the set up. And they use Milo and Hiro for the big finale, and everyone always comes on here in the first 5 episodes of any volume complaining about all the screen time claire gets.


It's like clockwork now.

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I am not hch but here's my answer.


So far this volume she has brought.

1-Rebel to the heroes
2-Freed the heroes from being captives for the entire volume
3-Showing her father that she is willing to sacrifice herself to go against what is wrong, and hopefully that trait will rub off on HRG before he starts actually believing the lies he is spewing
4-Brought a new character who can breath water into the rebellion
5-Is the perfect lieason between the rebellion and the government




Those are just 5 things she has brought to this volume, but people would rather complain about her screen time then focus on the fact that the writers are actually USING her this season instead of being a random appendige that's only purpose is to keep other characters alive.





ETA-
Again, this is only the first 3 episodes of the volume, it is meant to set the story for the volume. They always use Claire and HRG in this way and in the end the focus is always on Peter.


love your answer and is totally right that is how heroes splits the screen time.

[Level5]

Yes, Yoshua, they're using her, but could they be a little less corny about it. Come on? dumb down everyone else, to make Claire look like the saviour of the Heroes.

I can only wonder what writer came up with that idea, "Hey guys, lets make Peter powerless and the rest just plain stupid so we can make Claire look good." Come on?

And so far nobody has been able to kill Sylar, but guess what? Super Claire was able too!


Do you guys see my point? It's not all about the ridiculous amount of show time they give her. It's more about the whole Super Claire aspect.

[targis]

Yoshua and hch:

So far this volume Claire has brought:

1. Rebel wasn't brought in by Claire. Rebel is working on his/her own messaging all the hereo's not just Claire.

2. As far as freeing the captives from the plane. It was Peter that was fighting the people off in the plane. Claire shouldn't have even been there. she runs and jumps in the plane as it is leaving come on she dosen't have super speed.

3. All Claire cares about is herself. the way she told her mom what Noah was doing so it would start a argument that led to Noah being thrown out the house. way to go Claire you're starting to break up your family even worse.

4. What is the guy that can breath water going to do. that power is useless. What did Claire become trained in survilence all the sudden telling him where to hide and when to run. She didn't even graduate High School and she is smarter than trained soldjiers.

5. Just because she is Nathans and H.R.G's daughter she is not the perfect lieason. She is just a stupid kid who only got into college because Angela was connected enough to get her in. And when offered to go to her choice of the finest schools she just turns up her nose.


Sylar Please come find a way to kill Claire.

[Level5]

targis, I couldn't agree with you more.

She acts like she's been through training she's never had. Like being able to evade the agents. How did she even know that car following them were government agents?

It's Just the little things like making Claire way too smart; making her the center if attention. How about they write something worth while about Peter, Mohinder and Matt, and make them half as smart as Claire, at least. I mean, Peter is always walking into traps and getting his powers stolen.

But like I said, I don't what them to kill Claire off. I just want to make it all a little more believable. Because right now, you're pushing it.

[targis]

level 5 yeah I may have got carried away a little at the end. I just started typing and the more I thought about it I was like just kill her. lol

[Level5]

I sometimes wish they would just kill her off too, but I really liked her character in the first season. So maybe there is still hope, that the writers will do something a little better with it.

But yeah, if it keeps going this way. Then, go ahead, kill her off if you want.

[Hopefulsuicide]

i found her much more annoying in the earlier seasons when it was all whining, no action

i actually like her when she's DOING things. i just hope that she actually does end up on the run, cause then maybe she will grow up a bit and come out from her father's wings. i mean they have been on different pages in the same way peter and nathan have. it'd be good to have a face off between the two once claire has reached a stage of conviction to her beliefs

[the highlander]

Claire needs real NOAH training... I want to see her fight really well, that would make a kick as$ samurai girl.

[Yoshua]

Yoshua and hch:

So far this volume Claire has brought:

1. Rebel wasn't brought in by Claire. Rebel is working on his/her own messaging all the hereo's not just Claire.

2. As far as freeing the captives from the plane. It was Peter that was fighting the people off in the plane. Claire shouldn't have even been there. she runs and jumps in the plane as it is leaving come on she dosen't have super speed.

3. All Claire cares about is herself. the way she told her mom what Noah was doing so it would start a argument that led to Noah being thrown out the house. way to go Claire you're starting to break up your family even worse.

4. What is the guy that can breath water going to do. that power is useless. What did Claire become trained in survilence all the sudden telling him where to hide and when to run. She didn't even graduate High School and she is smarter than trained soldjiers.

5. Just because she is Nathans and H.R.G's daughter she is not the perfect lieason. She is just a stupid kid who only got into college because Angela was connected enough to get her in. And when offered to go to her choice of the finest schools she just turns up her nose.


Sylar Please come find a way to kill Claire.



1-Unless you read the online comics you wouldn't know that. Rebel in the series has only been in constant contact with Claire and just recently sent a fax to Hiro/Ando

2-Peter wouldn't have been able to get out of his entrapment without Claire. No other hero would have gotten a pass except Claire because of being HRG's daughter. So Claire was the ONLY possibly solution to that situation at that time the way it was written. And had Pattrelli not given Claire a pass she would have been just as incapacitated as Peter.

3- Everyone in this show is only looking out for themselves. Including Peter. If Peter wasn't a hippocrite he never would have injected himself with the Syrum. At least Nathan is honest about what he would do when he told Peter he'd have let him die and was beating him to death in the middle of a fire.

4- We don't know yet, welcome to plot development. He has his own online webcomic devoted to him this week as well so my guess is he will have at least a 1 volume arc and if he is well received mroe.

5- That stupid kid has managed to evade her father because she knows her father. That stupid kid managed to sneak aboard a plane and rescue the rest of the heroes because of circumstance. That stupid kid knows the safest place from her father is her own bedroom. That stupid kid knows the difference between right and wrong. Peter, Nathan, HRG, Mohinder, and even Hiro when he was back in the past, all doubted and swayed when given options to do what is right or wrong. Hiro even stole Kensei's woman. That being said? Whenever claire has been met with something she knows is absolutely wrong? She runs, jumps out a window, defends herself the best she can until she can find someone she knows can help her right that wrong.




She isn't a super soldier. But she is a character that has morals and sticks to them. Even future claire was going after peter because of her morals. He had killed hundreds of her co-workers. That is why she went after him. And she believed what she was doing was right. Peter was labelled a terrorist and we don't really know if he was or not. We just know he didn't like how things turned out and wanted to change them.

[Hockeyking]

All I gotta say is Heroes 90210!

[Mars Investigations]

4. What is the guy that can breath water going to do. that power is useless. What did Claire become trained in survilence all the sudden telling him where to hide and when to run. She didn't even graduate High School and she is smarter than trained soldjiers.

While Yoshua answered everything well, I had to add my own view to this point.

Firstly, are you saying that Rebel should only concentrate on saving powerful superhumans? Surely, saving the weaker ones takes priority because they are less able to defend themselves.

Secondly, Claire never showed any skill in surveillance. Rebel told her where to go and who to save, and she followed those instructions.

Thirdly, I thought this episode actually highlighted the fact that Claire was completely out of her league when it came to fighting armed units of soldiers. Everything she did was haphazard, every action she took was in the moment, every decision she made was temporary at best.

For example: she escaped with Alex in his car, and only when she saw they were being followed did she think it might be registered in his name; this shows she lacks the foresight of her enemies. She hid Alex in her bedroom closet; this shows a complete lack of experience or strategical thinking, especially seeing as she is aware that the government is watching Noah carefully.

[targis]

Whether Rebel focused on Claire more at fist or not dosen't matter. She still didn't bring the character in the show.

Claire shouldn't have been on the plane in the first place. She does not have super speed. She was being escorted away and is able to somehow overpower the soldjer and run back to the plane. Then Claire is able to run down the runway and get on the plane while it is taking off. Please give me a break

Oh and she hears her dad coming to her room and hads someone in her closet. Like I haven't seen that before.

And Rebel dosen't tell her move for move like on Eagle Eye movie. If Rebel did do that why didn't Rebel tell her to park her car somewhere her dad wouldn't see it and take a cab to the comic store.

[Yoshua]

Whether Rebel focused on Claire more at fist or not dosen't matter. She still didn't bring the character in the show.

Claire shouldn't have been on the plane in the first place. She does not have super speed. She was being escorted away and is able to somehow overpower the soldjer and run back to the plane. Then Claire is able to run down the runway and get on the plane while it is taking off. Please give me a break

Oh and she hears her dad coming to her room and hads someone in her closet. Like I haven't seen that before.

And Rebel dosen't tell her move for move like on Eagle Eye movie. If Rebel did do that why didn't Rebel tell her to park her car somewhere her dad wouldn't see it and take a cab to the comic store.


off topic but you bring up eagle eye. Interesting.... Rebel could be a super computer that sees what the government is doing goes against the constitution and rebels :D

[Mars Investigations]

Whether Rebel focused on Claire more at fist or not dosen't matter. She still didn't bring the character in the show.

In terms of television, yes, she did. Rebel was introduced as part of her story arc.


Claire shouldn't have been on the plane in the first place. She does not have super speed. She was being escorted away and is able to somehow overpower the soldjer and run back to the plane. Then Claire is able to run down the runway and get on the plane while it is taking off. Please give me a break

You don't need superspeed to run after a plane. She caught up to it as it was just coming out of the hangar...it would only speed up as it gets towards the end of the runway, which was at that point still a distance away.


Oh and she hears her dad coming to her room and hads someone in her closet. Like I haven't seen that before.

It doesn't matter whether you've seen it before (although I highly doubt it has been used outside of the girl-sneaking-around-with-boyfriend context). All that matters, in terms of this thread, is that it shows she's inexperienced and acting on the edge of her seat.


And Rebel dosen't tell her move for move like on Eagle Eye movie. If Rebel did do that why didn't Rebel tell her to park her car somewhere her dad wouldn't see it and take a cab to the comic store.

You have just disproved your own argument that she is better than trained soldiers :D She didn't even park her car somewhere it wouldn't be seen.

[targis]

not parking your car where it can't be seen is just stupid. Especialy when you know your dad is the hunter and would recognize it. How does that disprove my argument. It dosen't.

[Mars Investigations]

she is smarter than trained soldjiers.


not parking your car where it can't be seen is just stupid. Especialy when you know your dad is the hunter and would recognize it. How does that disprove my argument. It dosen't.

It does. You said that Claire is smarter than trained soldiers. Yet you just said that she is stupid. Hence, disproving your own argument.

Besides, she didn't actually know that Noah was the hunter.

[Yoshua]

not parking your car where it can't be seen is just stupid. Especialy when you know your dad is the hunter and would recognize it. How does that disprove my argument. It dosen't.

How would she know Noah was the one being sent after Aquaman?

[targis]

when you qouted me saying that Claire was smarter than a soldjer you took it out of context. Also you didn't even qoute the entire sentence. It was said as a sarcastic statement.

[Mars Investigations]

when you qouted me saying that Claire was smarter than a soldjer you took it out of context. Also you didn't even qoute the entire sentence. It was said as a sarcastic statement.

Putting it back in the context and quoting the entire sentence doesn't change its meaning in this case.

It doesn't really make sense with the rest of your argument if you were being sarcastic...

But this is an issue of opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[targis]

She dosen't have to be 100% that they would send him. But she should have known after all the comic store was in the area they live in. See If she was smart she would have said to herself thats not far from here they will probably send my dad to get this guy and would have hid the car. But like I said before. dumb dumb dumb

[Yoshua]

She dosen't have to be 100% that they would send him. But she should have known after all the comic store was in the area they live in. See If she was smart she would have said to herself thats not far from here they will probably send my dad to get this guy and would have hid the car. But like I said before. dumb dumb dumb

You also said she outsmarts trained soldiers though.

And as far as I am concerned, she isn't a trained soldier, and not thinking like one isn't being 'dumb' it is not being trained as a soldier.

She did what I would think an 18 year old person would do when told to do something they want to do. Blindly obey.

She went, she saved, and she hid. Sounds to me like goal accomplished.

[halvor311]

Claire is awesome, she's a genuinely good person who is pissed off that her dad is doing all of these horrible things to people. I think she's a real hero like Peter Petrelli and Matt Parkman. I don't like how stubborn she can be but she's a great character.

[targis]

My point when I said that Claire is smarter than is soldjer is it is not backed up by anything. One min clair drops out of highschool. then she goes on a hunt after doyle and now all the sudden she is supposed to be smart according the Claire loving group. And she isn't.

[Yoshua]

My point when I said that Claire is smarter than is soldjer is it is not backed up by anything. One min clair drops out of highschool. then she goes on a hunt after doyle and now all the sudden she is supposed to be smart according the Claire loving group. And she isn't.

I don't know what 'claire loving group' you are talking about but we don't see every minute of their lives. There are months and years sometimes inbetween volumes that we don't know how HRG is training her.

We already know from the first volume of this season that he is training her to fight. Then 4 months pass between that volume and this volume and we are supposed to assume he just 'stopped' training her and she would believe that the world is a safe place for her?

Yea right. She is still getting training during the down times, we just don't see it.



She took a bat to HRG and managed to hit him 3 or 4 times before stopping herself. That means she managed to out maneuver HRG in training right before Elle and Sylar busted in. She is being trained, we just aren't seeing it.

[Mars Investigations]

Not to mention that the Claire haters are the ones claiming that she's too smart.

[targis]

All I got left to say is that the way Claires character is right now is bringing the show down. IMO

Also IMO Claire is stupid. and the scenes where she outwits the soldjers, when Claire is able to get on the plane were just added to make Claire look better than she is.



this past week we had Claire whinning to Noah about his job. which was the same old boring **** they have been doing forever.

[Yoshua]

and i would just like to say if it wasnt caught before.

I am disappointed in the lack of Peter on screen too, but I always am in the first 3-5 episodes of most of the volumes except 1. But they tend to make up for it in the last 3-5 episodes of the volume so it evens out for me.

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All I got left to say is that the way Claires character is right now is bringing the show down. IMO

Also IMO Claire is stupid. and the scenes where she outwits the soldjers, when Claire is able to get on the plane were just added to make Claire look better than she is.



this past week we had Claire whinning to Noah about his job. which was the same old boring **** they have been doing forever.

And they will keep doing it until 1-HRG stops being a tool. or 2-Claire decides that the people her father work for are good people. However from Claires point of view? Every employer he has ever had has wanted to abduct her. So how good can they be?

[haydenclaireheroes]

i found her much more annoying in the earlier seasons when it was all whining, no action

i actually like her when she's DOING things. i just hope that she actually does end up on the run, cause then maybe she will grow up a bit and come out from her father's wings. i mean they have been on different pages in the same way peter and nathan have. it'd be good to have a face off between the two once claire has reached a stage of conviction to her beliefs

like your answer because i think everyone can agree.

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Claire needs real NOAH training... I want to see her fight really well, that would make a kick as$ samurai girl.
that would be cool

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Claire is awesome, she's a genuinely good person who is pissed off that her dad is doing all of these horrible things to people. I think she's a real hero like Peter Petrelli and Matt Parkman. I don't like how stubborn she can be but she's a great character.

i know she is a teenager and people have to live that she is a great charecter but she is not perfect and that is what i love about her because in this world no one can be perfect.

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all i have to say about claire is she is a good charecter and everyone is saying she is bringing the show down when no one remebers the first season of this show. claire was this charecter who could not fight and did not want have a power but in season 3 eclipse part 2 she had finally relized she could not live with out her power. than she relized she had to grow up but every teenager wants to grow up but truly they are still a kid in heart. intill something major happens that makes them change intill adulthood. claire is just confused and the episode tried to say she is just confused but isnt everyone in the world confused becuase there are so many choices in the world simple and hard that you have to ponder on for hours and that is claire she needs to make choices and that is really what claire is really about.

[Xanderman]

Personally I'm sick of the whole Claire/Noah/family dynamic. Claire needs to go out on her own, trying with all her might to save the whales or the fish or a palm tree or whatever she's into now, just like she does in real life, never to return.

Peter: Hey....somebody's missing.... I know, what happened to my girlfriend?
Noah: You mean Claire? She's too young for you my friend. Plus you're related.
Peter: Pfft, like any of that would stop a stud like me.
Noah: Whatever, the point is she's gone. A whale she was trying to save ate her. END OF STORY--can we talk about something else now? :lol:

[Level5]

3- Everyone in this show is only looking out for themselves. Including Peter. If Peter wasn't a hippocrite he never would have injected himself with the Syrum. At least Nathan is honest about what he would do when he told Peter he'd have let him die and was beating him to death in the middle of a fire.


Right, because Peter getting his power BACK that were stolen from him is being a hypocrite, Whatever. If the stupid writers would stop with all the Peter bashing, and actually treat him half as good as they do Claire. Then, none of this would of happened.

But no, they can't. So season after season, we have to sit here and watch them make a fool out of Peter while they MAKE Claire look like the star of the show. I'm just sick of it.

[Yoshua]

Right, because Peter getting his power BACK that were stolen from him is being a hypocrite, Whatever. If the stupid writers would stop with all the Peter bashing, and actually treat him half as good as they do Claire. Then, none of this would of happened.

But no, they can't. So season after season, we have to sit here and watch them make a fool out of Peter while they MAKE Claire look like the star of the show. I'm just sick of it.

The hippocracy is that he destroyed the syrum to stop people from getting from getting abilities.


He must be god to decide only he should be the one to have them.

[haydenclaireheroes]

The hippocracy is that he destroyed the syrum to stop people from getting from getting abilities.


He must be god to decide only he should be the one to have them.


ok so now you guys are trashing on peter if you like the show why are you trahsing on it. Also why are you on a heroes forum if you hate all the charecters.

[targis]

No Peter trashing here other than Yoshua did earlier.

And for the record Peter is not a hypocrite. He only took the formula so he wouldn't get burned to death in the building

[Level5]

Actually, he is just stopping people from getting abilities that shouldn't, and otherwise wouldn't have them.

Him using the serum to give himself his own ability back is not hypocritical. If you ask me the writers were just picking on Peter again.

So I would of done the same thing Peter did. Having seen the future that Peter saw, you couldn't possibly say you wouldn't have done the same thing too.

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ok so now you guys are trashing on peter if you like the show why are you trahsing on it. Also why are you on a heroes forum if you hate all the charecters.

This is what forums are for. If we didn't ever talk about the shows we liked. Then, this forum would go out of business so fast your head would spin

Oh, and I don't hate the characters. I just dislike the way they are being written.

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He must be god to decide only he should be the one to have them.

Peter was just doing what he had to do to save the world. If you remember all of the abilities were going to destroy it.

And I don't even like the serum plot the writers forced on us. I think it kills the special factor of the abilities.

[haydenclaireheroes]

level 5 can just give some of the charecters a nex slate becuase the show is great and mabe you need to look at the charecter in a new perspective.

[targis]

Claire is a hypocrite.
The first season she was like no you can't hunt these people to Noah.
Then she was like I want to go hunt them also.

[Level5]

If the show was still great it would have 16 million viewers again.

But, I love the show. Is that not already obvious? Because I'm here posting on a fan forum about it. And if you knew me, you would know that I don't do that. This is the only TV show I care enough about to post like this on a forum.

And the reason I'm sick of Claire--and I've said this before--is because she gets too much attention from the writers. They make her out to be some kind of Superhero. Which she isn't, she is the one that should need the saving like in the first season, "Save the Cheerleader, save the world." But now they have her single handedly running around killing Sylar, and saving The Heroes from certain doom. So now we can all say, "If it wasn't for Claire, there wouldn't be a Heroes."

[Hockeyking]

ok so now you guys are trashing on peter if you like the show why are you trahsing on it. Also why are you on a heroes forum if you hate all the charecters.

I cant speak for anyone else but I'm still on a forum because of season 1. It was fresh and original and it could of been something great. It's sad how far the show has sunk, and while there are a number of reasons for why the show sucks now, Claire sticks out mostly. She shouldn't even be on the show never mind star billing. Teenage angst doesn't belong on the show. Neither does the over done psychic story telling. NO MORE PREMONITIONS!

[haydenclaireheroes]

Claire is a hypocrite.
The first season she was like no you can't hunt these people to Noah.
Then she was like I want to go hunt them also.


those were EVIL people not her friends and her family!

[lauraforever]

I love Claire-Bear.

[haydenclaireheroes]

If the show was still great it would have 16 million viewers again.

But, I love the show. Is that already obvious? Because I'm here posting on a fan forum about it. And if you knew me, you would know that I don't do that. This is the only TV show I care enough about to post like this on a forum.

And the reason I'm sick of Claire--and I've said this before--is because she gets too much attention from the writers. They make her out to be some kind of Superhero. Which she isn't, she is the one that should need the saving like in the first season, "Save the Cheerleader, save the world." But now they have her single handedly running around killing Sylar, and saving The Heroes from certain doom. So know we can all say, "If it wasn't for Claire, there wouldn't be a Heroes."


i am saying the show would not be the same without her!

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I cant speak for anyone else but I'm still on a forum because of season 1. It was fresh and original and it could of been something great. It's sad how far the show has sunk, and while there are a number of reasons for why the show sucks now, Claire sticks out mostly. She shouldn't even be on the show never mind star billing. Teenage angst doesn't belong on the show. Neither does the over done psychic story telling. NO MORE PREMONITIONS!

ok the show like i keep saying is about people not just the abilities. they need all differnet types of people. like a cop, a nurse, a politition and a teenager. That is the basis of the show and i hope pwople would see we need to listen to the peoples story not the stories of what ability they have. we need people clare becuase to tell you the thruth she is the one who used her powers the least in this show and she has a story to be told as a person.

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I love Claire-Bear.


me too.

[Level5]

i am saying the show would not be the same without her!

No, it probably wouldn't.

[targis]

I wonder if when Tracy escapes if she were to freeze Claire and put her in a freezer if she would live if she thawed out.

[haydenclaireheroes]

she would live.

[Xanderman]

^not if Tracy smashes ice-cube-Claire to pieces first. I think that would be a cool way for Claire to finally die. Hopefully it happens next episode. Then Noah could pour himself a drink cooled with Claire-cubes. When Sandra finds out she'll probably scream "Noah! How could you drink our daughter!" and he'll calmly reply "She would have wanted it that way... What's for dinner?"

[Hockeyking]

^not if Tracy smashes ice-cube-Claire to pieces first. I think that would be a cool way for Claire to finally die. Hopefully it happens next episode. Then Noah could pour himself a drink cooled with Claire-cubes. When Sandra finds out she'll probably scream "Noah! How could you drink our daughter!" and he'll calmly reply "She would have wanted it that way... What's for dinner?"

LOL, yup that would be great.

[Level5]

That would be weird but funny.

[whitearrow]

i think claire's value to the show started to diminish ever since sylar got her powers. We were all afraid that he would be unstoppable and go on an unmerciful killing spree.

Guess what he got them and he did but his priorities have changed now. In a way when he disguarded her after taking her powers so did we because the implications of that act were a lot more significant then her as a character. They are probably keeping her on the show to level the playing field when peter gets his power back. He will. Sylar got his back.

However should they introduce another character ( hence killing adam ) with her power her days would be numbered because i am not sure what she brings to the show anymore apart from eye candy but heroes is the kinda show where most of the viewers are actually interested in the characters as there is usally so much going on.

my 2 cents

[hansioux]

maya has no powers.

she does too. her power is being super hot....

[HD916]

Claire Bear is starting to be very hard to bare.

[unfocused]

Last two posts = awesome.

I am getting sick of seeing Claire have that angry look on her face, it makes her unattractive. And I miss the cheerleader outfit so much. She used to be so easy to look at :p

[haydenclaireheroes]

sorry i think claire still deserves to be on the show.