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REebee52
02-06-2009, 11:01 AM
I've probably earned a reputation here for standing up for Lana, but even so this wasn't my IDEAL way of wrapping up her arc. It was satisfying, and that last scene was beautiful, but it was not how I would have done it.
But what annoys me more, and I haven't seen many posts about it, is that Lana still has Superpowers! So what's more annoying, how the relationship ended or the fact that Lana Lang is now a superheroine fighting crime elsewhere?

Part 2:
It's common here to think that Lois is too good for Clark, or that Smallville has destroyed the future Clois because of how Clana ended. That Clark will never be over Lana, and that Lois is far better than he. Really?
Lois+Aquaman
Lois+Oliver Queen
Lois+Grant Gabriel
Lois the stripping soldier and experienced pole dancer (one of Smallville's most shameful moments. Second only to the Stride commercial that was "Hero"). To be fair this wasn't 'Lois's' fault, but the writers, though this is true for 'Clark' as well.

Lois hasn't been perfect, and has also been in some serious relationships where she was in love with a guy. She didn't really want to leave Oliver, she felt she had to, but that doesn't mean her relationship with Clark will be a 'rebound' or cheapen it in anyway. The same will be true for Clark. We, he, and she just need some time to see it.

This is more incoherent than I would have liked, but you get the point.

Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Reebee - Nothing that Lois Lane has done in the past compares to the amount of degradation that we have seen from Lana Lang and in this current arc from Clark Kent. The only blemish that Lois Lane has is her fling with Grant Gabriel, which in the grand schemes, while obviously not a proper choice (as dating a boss is not exactly wrong, just typically frowned upon by society) is nothing in comparison to the behavior of other characters.

Also, Lois Lane as an undercover stripper while tacky isn't something that I'd say is shameful. Lana Lang sleeping with Lex Luthor is shameful. Lana Lang sleeping with Bizarro and enjoying it is shameful. Clark Kent condoning murder is shameful. Clark Kent giving up on those he cares for is shameful.

Lois Lane stripping while undercover. Uh, not so much.

So yes, Lois Lane is not perfect (who here has ever stated she is) but you cannot put her on the same level as Lana Lang. The latter has just been horribly disfigured in terms of morality in Smallville.

BTW, what in the world is so bad about Lois Lane's other relationships? You bring up AC and Ollie as though they are as shameful as bringing up Lex Luthor and Bizarro.

I understand the need to want to elevate and defend Lana Lang, but going after Lois Lane, a character whom in Smallville has the cleanest track-record in comparison to others, isn't exactly the best way!

Lol. Just sayin'....:)

REebee52
02-06-2009, 01:55 PM
Reebee - Nothing that Lois Lane has done in the past compares to the amount of degradation that we have seen from Lana Lang and in this current arc from Clark Kent. The only blemish that Lois Lane has is her fling with Grant Gabriel, which in the grand schemes, while obviously not a proper choice (as dating a boss is not exactly wrong, just typically frowned upon by society) is nothing in comparison to the behavior of other characters.

Also, Lois Lane as an undercover stripper while tacky isn't something that I'd say is shameful. Lana Lang sleeping with Lex Luthor is shameful. Lana Lang sleeping with Bizarro and enjoying it is shameful. Clark Kent condoning murder is shameful. Clark Kent giving up on those he cares for is shameful.

Lois Lane stripping while undercover. Uh, not so much.

So yes, Lois Lane is not perfect (who here has ever stated she is) but you cannot put her on the same level as Lana Lang. The latter has just been horribly disfigured in terms of morality in Smallville.

BTW, what in the world is so bad about Lois Lane's other relationships? You bring up AC and Ollie as though they are as shameful as bringing up Lex Luthor and Bizarro.

I understand the need to want to elevate and defend Lana Lang, but going after Lois Lane, a character whom in Smallville has the cleanest track-record in comparison to others, isn't exactly the best way!

Lol. Just sayin'....:)

You misunderstand me. Those relationships with Ollie and AC were GOOD relationships, and particularly with Oliver, MEANINGFUL relationships. I.E. They were similar to Clark's relationship with Lana. Just because she had them doesn't mean she will love Clark less and pine for how it used to be, just like how Clark won't pine for Lana when he's with Lois. That was my point, that it's okay for someone to have a relationship with someone before they find their 'soulmate' for lack of a better word.

As to Grant Gabriel, I don't think it was as bad as SOME people do, but Lois Lane is historically linked with the Daily Planet, and to have her sleep with her boss when she gets this iconic job *is* somewhat questionable (though I've always been more lax on the issue than most people).

And the stripper thing, when I said shameful, I meant for the show in general. It was obviously to get viewers in sweeps, a cheap way to promote an episode. Though it wasn't great for the character either.

Now to Lana: Yes, she did sleep with Lex. But, let's face it, she didn't know what was up. He manipulated her to the highest degree. It's his fault, not hers, and it's quite clear she regrets it. Bizarro: again, not really her fault. When she found out, she obviously didn't like it enough to not destroy him (probably not permanently).

Clark Kent condones murder: Momentarily in a fit of rage. He isn't Superman yet, he has some flaws.

Clark Kent giving up on those he loves: such as? Who has he given up on? And if he just ignored Lana when she came back, wouldn't that have been
a). Incredibly unrealistic. Two people with such a history are bound to have feelings like this when they come together, especially after only seven months.
b). giving up on someone he loves?

I said this in a different post, and meant to say it in this topic. We agree, Lois is NOT the moral haphazard that Lana is, I never claimed she was. Just that she's done some dubious things in the past, that if you were around at the time, people claimed HER character was destroyed (I defended HER then, too. Erica Durance is an incredible Lois Lane). Lois is better than Lana, in every single way, but Clark has loved Lana longer, and he doesn't see it yet. My whole point is that he will, and when he does he won't pine for Lana, he'll wonder how he ever lived without Lois.
Clark isn't Superman yet. And there's still a loooot of time for Clois to develop. I just hate to see how people berate this show because of a single character, when there's still so much left in Clark's life (whether we see it onscreen or not). I typically find myself defending characters (Lois, Lana, Clark, whomever) against some of the shippers or character fans that are intensely devoted to one character, and can't stand others because they are in direct conflict with what said person wants in the show. Chlark, Clois, Clana, I've been on these forums for them all. I want Clois as much as anyone else, but that doesn't mean I want Clana to be unimportant or unrealistic. I just don't think one character stops something from being well written, beautifully acted, or a worthwhile story. Just because Lana's here now doesn't mean Lois is any less important in the future. That's all I've been trying to say.

As a funny comparison, Jar Jar Binks was an annoying character. I wasn't all that fond of Episode I, but he isn't the reason Episode I was bad. Episode II had no Jar Jar, and I thought it even worse...
Off topic, but the point: even a character like Jar Jar can't completely destroy a story.
Sometimes people get devoted to a relationship/character, but I try to be level headed about this sort of stuff and try to lay defense where defense is due.

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sorry that was so long.

sithius
02-06-2009, 02:00 PM
Lol, she has probably already signed a contract for season 9, so they don't need to explain it.

*Awaits Lana returning and Clark ditching Lois to profess his love for her again.*

REebee52
02-06-2009, 02:03 PM
yeah I wondered that too.
"Did the Archer believe it?"

Eh?
I thought it might be that dude that trained her, but I don't know.

kaam
02-06-2009, 02:06 PM
I think we decided it was her mentor! but then again, who knows.

costas22
02-06-2009, 02:13 PM
It will go down with X as one of Season 8's black holes.

sari_chem
02-06-2009, 04:27 PM
I think they will probably just drop that...as if it never happened.

(I still can't figure out why Brainiac, disguised as Kara, would go to the kitchen in the middle of the night wearing cute little PJs, to have a drink of milk, and then get a killer migraine...)

jjsmallvillelvr
02-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Well I know there are other threads specifically about some of these things, but I have alot of questions...

1. Lana wasn't planning on coming back for the wedding in Bride...so she said, so was the promethius suit written in later. Cuz all of a sudden she was gone to train for the suit.

2. Lana wore a gown in the breakup video Clark had been rewatching, then she was in a purple shirt in the video we saw in Power.

3. It's been 7 months why haven't Lex's burns healed? And Why would they not bandage them?

4. Chloe flip flops like none other on the Clark/ Lana relationship.

5.Why is Lois staying with Jimmy in Star City, but Chloe's in Metropolis?

6. Who sent the text message to Lana about the Archer and what did it mean?

7. Who stole the crystal from Tess? and who gave it to Clark? (That ones not really about the Lana arc)

Is anyone ever going to answer some of these questions? The Lana arc is over so it's seems some become irrelevant, so will we never know? The Bold are things that need answered. The others just annoyed me. LOL!:) Did these or anything else annoy you, or do you know the answers to any of these, or theories? LOL.

newfamfan
02-07-2009, 08:25 PM
8.Does not taking Lana's powers away make her immortal like Clark? Will she outlive the normal human?

My opinion as far as an answer to #3. I think those wounds are from having to have his skin torn away to get ready for the suit that Lana stole. He didn't plan on his suit being taken and his body was being made ready for the suit. When Lana stole it, Lex was too busy preparing his revenge for Clark and Lana to worry about his healing. Or perhaps, Lex has the scientist working on another suit.

Superman's_Wife
02-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Let me save you the trouble with these questions. The entire arc was nonsensical garbage and thus should be looked at as a bad joke and nothing more. :)

jjsmallvillelvr
02-07-2009, 08:27 PM
good question about the immortal thing.

and also poor Chloe...everyone played their hands on her in Requiem. Clark played the 'I could have killed you when you were brainiac' card. and Ollie played the 'you killed a man in cold blood, does Clark know?' card. They manipulated her.

The only long lost question that was answered was about Lana's necklace. does she know what happened to it and does she get it back? lol she did and she does. lol.

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9. Oh yea, and how does Lana automatically know there is a wireless camera in doll/puppet?

10. and how did Chloe all of a sudden remember Clark's secret again?

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I don't think I've ever had so many unanswered questions about Smallville before the arc!

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8.Does not taking Lana's powers away make her immortal like Clark? Will she outlive the normal human?

My opinion as far as an answer to #3. I think those wounds are from having to have his skin torn away to get ready for the suit that Lana stole. He didn't plan on his suit being taken and his body was being made ready for the suit. When Lana stole it, Lex was too busy preparing his revenge for Clark and Lana to worry about his healing. Or perhaps, Lex has the scientist working on another suit.
nice theory that would make sense.

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11. Also Lex can't really be dead can he? he has to be around for superman!!!

kg1507
02-07-2009, 08:39 PM
The unanswered question that annoys me the most is about that text message Lana got. Ugh...

Wicked Lois
02-07-2009, 08:41 PM
"MAYBE LANA AND CLARK ARENT MEANT TO END UP TOGETHER" in Bride..

ledzepfan23
02-07-2009, 08:45 PM
The unanswered question that annoys me the most is about that text message Lana got. Ugh...
That had to be Dr. Grohl because she obviously wasn't working for Lex or Tess. I think Grohl was making sure that Oliver didn't find out about the suit.

Skaterpen357
02-07-2009, 09:15 PM
1. I guess she wasn't planning on returning to Metropolis so soon; just eventually.

2. She messed up a couple takes so they just filmed it a couple times; she changed clothes for a couple of them. :lol:

3. Ice burn's a *****? I don't know, I thought the fact Lex was even alive was due to some weird Kryptonian Jor-El-related intervention anyway (otherwise, when/how did his people find him?). Maybe the wounds are alien in nature?

4. YEAH. I was disappointed with her in "Power." "Bulletproof" featured a fairly promising take on Clana from her, and next episode she just forgot Lois existed. Blegh.

5. Heh. I like to think Lois just accompanied him there and then just went to a different part of offscreenville. I guess it's better to assume he doesn't "need" visitors than to assume he's being waited on by someone who isn't his wife.

6. I'm guessing Grohl, like ledzepfan23 said, so as not for GA to interfere with Project Prometheus and the stealing thereof...

7. I'm going with Chloiac. Someone theorized it was so Clark would release Faora and Doomsday would begin getting "better." Makes sense to me...

Hope that helps. I don't know, I'm not a SV writer (damned if I was, for this arc...)

jjsmallvillelvr
02-07-2009, 09:32 PM
1. I guess she wasn't planning on returning to Metropolis so soon; just eventually.

2. She messed up a couple takes so they just filmed it a couple times; she changed clothes for a couple of them. :lol:

3. Ice burn's a *****? I don't know, I thought the fact Lex was even alive was due to some weird Kryptonian Jor-El-related intervention anyway (otherwise, when/how did his people find him?). Maybe the wounds are alien in nature?

4. YEAH. I was disappointed with her in "Power." "Bulletproof" featured a fairly promising take on Clana from her, and next episode she just forgot Lois existed. Blegh.

5. Heh. I like to think Lois just accompanied him there and then just went to a different part of offscreenville. I guess it's better to assume he doesn't "need" visitors than to assume he's being waited on by someone who isn't his wife.

6. I'm guessing Grohl, like ledzepfan23 said, so as not for GA to interfere with Project Prometheus and the stealing thereof...

7. I'm going with Chloiac. Someone theorized it was so Clark would release Faora and Doomsday would begin getting "better." Makes sense to me...

Hope that helps. I don't know, I'm not a SV writer (damned if I was, for this arc...)

lol those are some real good theories maybe you shouldve written the arc. lol :)

Watching Smallville
02-07-2009, 10:40 PM
Did that ever get resolved? I think I missed it.

Superman's_Wife
02-07-2009, 10:43 PM
No, it did not. Then again, the entire arc was baseless and done purely for show. So does that surprise us?

SGuthrie27
02-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Nope. It still didn't. There was a pretty big thread running on that subject in the "Power" forum. We had some pretty wild theories being thrown around there, but I think it's most likely that either Dr. Grohl or that Navy Seal trainer guy was the person who had been contacting Lana. Nothing else would make sense, unless they plan on mentioning it in the possible Season 9. I think it's just a goof on the writers' part, and we'll be lucky to even find out what it was on a deleted scene bonus feature in the DVD set for Season 8.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Einhauen
02-10-2009, 07:24 AM
Okay. Finally after all the past seasons both good and bad at times I am sure many of you folks are happy that they are able to put Clana to an end. Yet with the recent return of Lana for five episodes I think many new issues and questions have been created that somehow didn't really put into closure with Lana and her role in Clark's life.

1) Who on earth was she communicating with in regards to "deceiving" Oliver Queen/Green Arrow in Bride? Is it with X or some other individual(s)? I am sure it is definitely not Lex as many have so claimed.

2) In Legion, near the end of that episode, Saturn Girl stressed to Lana that "Don't worry, your secret is save with me." What is this secret? I am sure it has nothing to do with Prometheus and her absorbing all that green rock. We all know Clark will end up with Lois in the end but the way Imra answered Lana's question about her future with Clark. I found it vague and open ended.

3) I am sure this will be revealed further down this season but how is the recent developments on the what is not meant to be scenarios between her and Clark causes Clark to become the hero that we all know he is going to be? Personally I find Lana returning doesn't really inspire Clark to be Superman in the future.

4) Is Clark going to buy a new bed or fix the old one given that unneccessary scene of them humping like sweaty superhero monkeys?:p


Inquiring minds want to know.....

dcmarriott
02-10-2009, 09:56 AM
It will be revealed in susequent episodes that, while she was gone, Lex took over Lana's body. That is the secret that Saturn Girl was talking about that Lana is really just Lex's mind in a woman's body. She was communicating with Lex's minions in Bride. The reason that the scenarios between Lana and Clark don't seem to be turnign him into a superhero is that Lex doesn't want Clark to become a superhero. As for the bed, well, I'll leave that to your imagination.

wafflles87
02-10-2009, 10:07 AM
I have one more. Not directly related to Lana's arc, but derived from it's existence.

Where the frak is Doomsday? In legion he seemed to be out of the Crystal chamber and ready to take on the world. Did he stop for mai-tai's in Hawaii?

stenochick
02-10-2009, 11:34 AM
I have one more. Not directly related to Lana's arc, but derived from it's existence.

Where the frak is Doomsday? In legion he seemed to be out of the Crystal chamber and ready to take on the world. Did he stop for mai-tai's in Hawaii?

I guess he's been on a murderous rampage in Alaska or Russia and is making his way back to Metropolis before he gets fired from his day job.

jjsmallvillelvr
02-10-2009, 01:38 PM
It will be revealed in susequent episodes that, while she was gone, Lex took over Lana's body. That is the secret that Saturn Girl was talking about that Lana is really just Lex's mind in a woman's body. She was communicating with Lex's minions in Bride. The reason that the scenarios between Lana and Clark don't seem to be turnign him into a superhero is that Lex doesn't want Clark to become a superhero. As for the bed, well, I'll leave that to your imagination.hmm i'm sure thats it cuz when lex got a womens body the first thing he wanted to do was jump clarks bones! lol. try again...:lol:

Night_Hawk90
02-10-2009, 01:49 PM
i dont understand the thinking that lois is too good for clark that is absolute b.s.

Tinyeppy
02-10-2009, 02:06 PM
This whole arc has unanswered and also created more. DC comics will not like the idea they have rewritten there small town girl Lana Lang is more powerful then Superman himself.

Lana has to return & become human again. She goes back to smallville marries Pete & has a son in the DC universe she doesn't stay "Super Lana". These questions will have to be addressed before the show ends and the same time TPTB will show us how much more strongly Clark Loves Lois. Lana can't be in the closet with this one just as Lois isn't clueless about Lana.

These questions will have to be answered by the end of season 9 b/c if not then Smalllville is an A/U in the myth.

Lana doesn't can't be stronger then Clark impossible. Against the myth. No one is stronger or beyond stronger then superman & no a women & not Lana. Ridiculous.

SupermanRox
02-10-2009, 02:12 PM
Let me save you the trouble with these questions. The entire arc was nonsensical garbage and thus should be looked at as a bad joke and nothing more.

Well that clears it right up for me. :lol:

jjsmallvillelvr
02-10-2009, 02:20 PM
i dont understand the thinking that lois is too good for clark that is absolute b.s.
it is stupid...lois has her issues as well...

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This whole arc has unanswered and also created more. DC comics will not like the idea they have rewritten there small town girl Lana Lang is more powerful then Superman himself.

Lana has to return & become human again. She goes back to smallville marries Pete & has a son in the DC universe she doesn't stay "Super Lana". These questions will have to be addressed before the show ends and the same time TPTB will show us how much more strongly Clark Loves Lois. Lana can't be in the closet with this one just as Lois isn't clueless about Lana.

These questions will have to be answered by the end of season 9 b/c if not then Smalllville is an A/U in the myth.

Lana doesn't can't be stronger then Clark impossible. Against the myth. No one is stronger or beyond stronger then superman & no a women & not Lana. Ridiculous.yea, but lana's not stronger than superman! there is NO superman yet! Smallville Clark Kent is no where close to being Superman yet!:eek:

virginie
02-16-2009, 02:22 PM
Is it just me or we still don't know who lana was texting in bride... someone wrote"Did the archer beleive you" but maybe i miss the detail but we still don't know who it was...

KneelBeforeZod!
02-16-2009, 02:37 PM
hope it's not a dropped story line. would also like to know who was the mysterious X on Tess' laptop.

but I think there's hope since Chloe's murderous ways were not forgotten, thank god.

Jawth
02-16-2009, 03:16 PM
The "X" was pretty obviously Lex.

As to who she texted, I don't know. I guess it could be the scientist she was secretly working with.

Kal26
02-16-2009, 05:33 PM
It was the guy who trained her, who was posing as Tess' chief of security or whatever. They were working together to try and find prometheus, and take down Lex.