Clana fans: Would Clark's future words change your perspective?

[melissan02]

I'd like to pose this question to Clana fans in light of the recent Lana arc. Mods, feel free to move this thread if I've put it in the wrong place.

*Respectful responses are appreciated BTW.

Given the resolution to the Clana love relationship and the events during the entire Lana arc, I'm sure many Clana fans feel that the Clana love story is solidified as end-game...at least on Smallville. And taking everything into account myself, it's hard to argue against this notion. However, should Clark, at any point in the near future, say to Lois or someone else, something to the effect of:

...."Lois is THE one, she's the one I want to be with, my SOULMATE that has been in front of me all this time..."

Would your perspective and/or opinion of Clana being end-game change?

I'm just simply curious, because, it's always possible that we could, in fact, hear Clark utter words like those stated above.

This show has always had him in one scene or another mention finding his soulmate, so it's not out of the question for that word [soulmate], and Lois Lane's name to be associated with it, to come from his mouth.

How would you feel about that as a Clana fan?

As a Clois fan I have to admit that after "Requiem", I have my doubts about how Clois will be handled and look from here on out. I think the only way to make Lois NOT look like second choice would be to have Clark say something like this (*see above italics).
IMHO, Clark needs to be redeemed.
I'd just like your thoughts on this please.:)

[Sunny8]

Clark is only about 21 years old. He and Lois never even dated and he was barely having feelings for her yet. He and Lois are not going to get married for a long time so he has a lot of time to grow up and think.

However, the sad thing is that if Clark loved Lana like he said he did he would have fought for her instead of just letting her walk away--twice.

In one of the episodes in the Lois and Clark series Superman/Clark Kent and Lois are married but are going to be locked in separate cages a few feet from each as long as they live by a couple that collects unique things and people. The cages are rigged in such a way that if they try to touch each other or try to escape the whole thing blows up. So they can see each other but can never touch each other ever again. Lois says its okay because he can touch her with his words. He, on the other hand, risks his life (unlike Clark over Lana in SV) to save them both. Now that's love.

If TPTB proved anything it is that Clark and Lana do not love each other as much as Clark and Lois will. Lana left Clark because she could not be around him and not touch him. If she loved him she would have stayed and been content with what they did have together. She did not have to be right in his face. Lois and Clark will love each other so much that they would have been satisfied with just being able to see each other everyday even though they could not touch one another.

TPTB made Clark and Lana's relationship look like it was not worth the effort for either Clark or Lana to even try to find a cure to her Krpytonite infestation. They just threw up their hands and Lana left without looking back. If their endgame was to show that Lana and Clark are not that "in" to each other then they did it with this episode.

[Jor-Fer]

Clark is only about 21 years old. He and Lois never even dated and he was barely having feelings for her yet. He and Lois are not going to get married for a long time so he has a lot of time to grow up and think.

However, the sad thing is that if Clark loved Lana like he said he does he would have fought for her instead of just letting her walk away--twice.

In one of the episodes in the Lois and Clark series Superman/Clark Kent and Lois are married but are going to be locked in separate cages a few feet from each as long as they live by a couple that collects unique things and people. The cages are rigged in such a way that if they try to touch each other or try to escape the whole thing blows up. So they can see each other but can never touch each other ever again. Lois says its okay because he can touch her with his words. He, on the other hand, risks his life (unlike Clark over Lana in SV) to save them both. Now that's love.

If TPTB proved anything it is that Clark and Lana do not love each other as much as Clark and Lois will. Lana left Clark because she could not be around him and not touch him. If she loved him she would have stayed and been content with what they did have together. She did not have to be right in his face. Lois and Clark will love each other so much that they would have been satisfied with just being able to see each other everyday even though they could not touch one another.

TPTB made Clark and Lana's relationship look like it was not worth the effort for either Clark or Lana to even try to find a cure to her Krpytonite infestation. They just threw up their hands and Lana left without looking back. If their endgame was to show that Lana and Clark are not that "in" to each other then they did it with this episode.

Actually they can´t follow the path of having clark finding a cure for Lana because KK will not appear in Smallville anymore (maybe) and would be a non-sense to spend minutes and plot in something that is supposed to be done.

Talking about the thread , at this point I think that writers can do wathever they want with the series and characters because after 8 years the image of the series is still placed and there are some things that won´t change like the fact of the Clana as the main ship of the show.I think that in the future when people remembered SV they will remember the Clana instead of the possibility of Clois in the later seasons.

There are arguments saying that Lois will be Clark´s soulmate because it happens in the mythos but think for a minute , SV has been twisting the mythos in his convenience constantly:\.For me is more shocking that Clark have defeated Kryptonians,bizarro,Brainiac,etc...before even starting his training than the possibility of turning Lois into a second choice.TPTB surely can do this , having Clark married with Lois (ok with the mythos) but allowing us to notice that it´s only because Lana isn´t there.

Actually I think that TPTB will try to make everybody happy , I don´t know how , but
probably it will be an open end that allow Cloisers and Clanians to have arguments to defend his theories and make this a neverending debate.:\

[Sunny8]

Actually they can´t follow the path of having clark finding a cure for Lana because KK will not appear in Smallville anymore (maybe) and would be a non-sense to spend minutes and plot in something that is supposed to be done.

Just like it was nonsense for them to start up Clana again in one episode--Power-- and end it stupidly in the next---Requiem--without a proper conclusion.

I am not a Clois or Clana supporter. I just don't see how Clark and Lana's relationship ever worked as I have stated several times in past posts. I do see how Lois and Clark's relationship works though.

Also, KK does not have to be on the show for her character to have a cure. There is always offscreensville. It would be so simple too. If TPTB really wanted Lana and Clark to be star crossed lovers they should have found something else that would make them appear that way. Lana's Kryptonite infestation does have a cure. TPTB only made Lana and Clark look like they could have found a cure but did not care enough about each other to do so. At least to me they did.

[LovelyLoisLane]

What I think more-to-the-point might say that Lois is not a second choice is the spoilers that suggest Clark 'falls for her' hard in the course of just two episodes. I mean in the second episode that Lois is in(’Hex’) after her return in "Infamous" something happens makes Chloe realize Clark's feeling for Lois. So something pretty significant has to occur in "Infamous" and no matter how much time has passed since the events in "Requiem" (show wise that is) it isn't nearly enough for someone to get over the supposed love of their life. Unless it is like 'three years later' or something, but that obviously is not the case with Lois' returning from Star City in the episode. Which is why I'm glad that in Clana's final scene that Clark didn't say he'd 'always' love Lana, because it obviously isn't true. I'm sure he'll always care for her, but be in love with her? Can't have been that much if it gets over her so quickly.

In fact, moving on in that short of a time makes it look like Clark is just lonely and is looking for romantic female companionship. Be it Lana, Lois or a mermaid living in crater lake. That didn't seem to be what was going on earlier in the season, but now it sorta looks like it. Lucky for him, or so he thinks, he had two candidates and now that the first candidate didn't work out he is going to try his luck with the other lady, because Hey! She's back in town!

It makes Lois seem like her being out of sight meant she was out of mind.
But even more so it makes Lana look like her being out of sight is also out of mind.
Clark was attracted to Lois before Lana came back, that was rather obvious, but he claims to have LOVED Lana, so forgetting her so easily looks twice as bad.

But I am going to give Clark and the writers some leeway, they might not deserve it, but I like to be optimistic, so maybe it'll all turn out alright.

I guess I'll have to wait and see what 'Infamous' brings us once it has aired.

[Lilah]

I understand that Clana has been the main ship of the show, since the beginning and that's fine, but I think that after the last episode its obvious they don't intend that to be truth any longer. Whether it lasted too long or not long enough, is a matter of opinion. Although, that L&C example is a prime example of the love Lois and Clark shared on that show, unfortunately Smallville is a completely different show. If anything, we just saw that Lana and Clark don't have that kind of love that Lois and Clark had in L&C. We need to remember that Clark is about 22 years old, and still as immature as a high school senior. In this season he's finally accepting the fact that he's the only super powered being on the planet that can save the planet from the same fate Krypton endured. If you recall in season 7 "Apocalypse", he was ready to give up and not exist until Jor-El showed him his influence on Earth. I think that should have been his turning point, but again he became a broody over grown teen trying to find a cure for Lana's Brainiac infection at the end. Then the whole thing with Lex happened and the season ended. At the start of season 8, he tells John Jones that "he's been holding on to life on this farm, that hasn't existed for years..." Personally, I think he's talking about since his dad's death, but one can't be too sure. So we saw the premiere this season, and got excited and said "FINALLY!"... I think if he was to utter those words, or something along those lines, it will show maturity. That he's finally let go of the past that has always haunted him. From the moment he found out he was an alien, til now.


There are arguments saying that Lois will be Clark´s soulmate because it happens in the mythos but think for a minute , SV has been twisting the mythos in his convenience constantly:\.For me is more shocking that Clark have defeated Kryptonians,bizarro,Brainiac,etc...before even starting his training than the possibility of turning Lois into a second choice.TPTB surely can do this , having Clark married with Lois (ok with the mythos) but allowing us to notice that it´s only because Lana isn´t there.

Actually I think that TPTB will try to make everybody happy , I don´t know how , but
probably it will be an open end that allow Cloisers and Clanians to have arguments to defend his theories and make this a neverending debate.:\

I'm sorry, as a fan that won't make me happy. Lois and Clark are an iconic couple with an iconic marriage. That was one of the biggest comics ever, second only to the Death of Superman series... So either they do it right, or they don't do it at all. That's how I see it.

[Jor-Fer]

Just like it was nonsense for them to start up Clana again in one episode--Power-- and end it stupidly in the next---Requiem--without a proper conclusion.

I am not a Clois or Clana supporter. I just don't see how Clark and Lana's relationship ever worked as I have stated several times in past posts. I do see how Lois and Clark's relationship works though.

Also, KK does not have to be on the show for her character to have a cure. There is always offscreensville. It would be so simple too. If TPTB really wanted Lana and Clark to be star crossed lovers they should have found something else that would make them appear that way. Lana's Kryptonite infestation does have a cure. TPTB only made Lana and Clark look like they could have found a cure but did not care enough about each other to do so. At least to me they did.

Yes , they brought the clana in a wrong place on time I agree with you on this but you have to realize that KK had left 5 episodes of the last season and the break-up video was a ridiculous way to end the Clana , this arc should be done before Lois felt for Clark but writers rushed the Clois with no explanation.Anyway talking about proper conclusion , it´s subjetive , I really liked the conclusion because I like Clana , you can´t call it a mistake , It´s only that you don´t like it.

With the second paragraph , all of us here are always complaining about offscreenville , personally I hate it , things must be fixed on screen.TPTB have said more than once that the relationship between CLark and Lana are like star-crossed lovers.Nothing more to say.


What I think more-to-the-point might say that Lois is not a second choice is the spoilers that suggest Clark 'falls for her' hard in the course of just two episodes. I mean in the second episode that Lois is in(’Hex’) after her return in "Infamous" something happens makes Chloe realize Clark's feeling for Lois. So something pretty significant has to occur in "Infamous" and no matter how much time has passed since the events in "Requiem" (show wise that is) it isn't nearly enough for someone to get over the supposed love of their life. Unless it is like 'three years later' or something, but that obviously is not the case with Lois' returning from Star City in the episode. Which is why I'm glad that in Clana's final scene that Clark didn't say he'd 'always' love Lana, because it obviously isn't true. I'm sure he'll always care for her, but be in love with her? Can't have been that much if it gets over her so quickly.

Something like that will be as weird as the lexana start on season 5 , who knows what are we going to see:confused:




I understand that Clana has been the main ship of the show, since the beginning and that's fine, but I think that after the last episode its obvious they don't intend that to be truth any longer. Whether it lasted too long or not long enough, is a matter of opinion. Although, that L&C example is a prime example of the love Lois and Clark shared on that show, unfortunately Smallville is a completely different show. If anything, we just saw that Lana and Clark don't have that kind of love that Lois and Clark had in L&C. We need to remember that Clark is about 22 years old, and still as immature as a high school senior. In this season he's finally accepting the fact that he's the only super powered being on the planet that can save the planet from the same fate Krypton endured. If you recall in season 7 "Apocalypse", he was ready to give up and not exist until Jor-El showed him his influence on Earth. I think that should have been his turning point, but again he became a broody over grown teen trying to find a cure for Lana's Brainiac infection at the end. Then the whole thing with Lex happened and the season ended. At the start of season 8, he tells John Jones that "he's been holding on to life on this farm, that hasn't existed for years..." Personally, I think he's talking about since his dad's death, but one can't be too sure. So we saw the premiere this season, and got excited and said "FINALLY!"... I think if he was to utter those words, or something along those lines, it will show maturity. That he's finally let go of the past that has always haunted him. From the moment he found out he was an alien, til now.



I'm sorry, as a fan that won't make me happy. Lois and Clark are an iconic couple with an iconic marriage. That was one of the biggest comics ever, second only to the Death of Superman series... So either they do it right, or they don't do it at all. That's how I see it.

I understand the need of comic readers to watch SV fitting to mythos but they have to understand that there are a lot of people who doesn´t care mythos too ,people who watches the series as an alternate version or adaptation.As I said before , I can´t understand this anger against Clana because it doesn´t fit in the mythos when , for example , they bring us Doomsday (the one who kills superman) before Clark started his training and everybody is excited about that.

Seems for me that the argument of the fidelity to the mythos is brought when it´s convenient for the people who criticizes Clana but dissapears with everything else.I find it a little bit hypocritical.

[supercatmom]

Sunny8 - In the episode of LnC you are referring to Lois and Clark were not even married yet. I fact, I don't think they were even engaged. Clark had proposed and had a ring, but Lois had ask for time to get to know the "real" Clark.
Clark had agreed to give Lois all the time she needed but some craziness had ocurred and they had decided to just be a couple in love and not even mention the "M" word.
That episode really made them talk and evaluate their love and were the relationship was going.

And yes,Lois was willing to live in a cage and not be able to touch Clark because what he propose to do to escape was highly dangerous and might kill him. I think the word she used was suicidal.

[Sunny8]

Sunny8 - In the episode of LnC you are referring to Lois and Clark were not even married yet. I fact, I don't think they were even engaged. Clark had proposed and had a ring, but Lois had ask for time to get to know the "real" Clark.
Clark had agreed to give Lois all the time she needed but some craziness had ocurred and they had decided to just be a couple in love and not even mention the "M" word.
That episode really made them talk and evaluate their love and were the relationship was going.

And yes,Lois was willing to live in a cage and not be able to touch Clark because what he propose to do to escape was highly dangerous and might kill him. I think the word she used was suicidal.

Thanks supercatmom, I need to go back and check that episode. So really Lana and Clark in 'Requiem' could have done the same as LnC in that series (and yes SV has copied LnC for SV before) but they obviously were not as devoted to each other as much as LnC and, most likely, this Lois and Clark.

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.Anyway talking about proper conclusion , it´s subjetive , I really liked the conclusion because I like Clana , you can´t call it a mistake , It´s only that you don´t like it.

You are right Jor-Fer. I do not like how they concluded Clana. To me TPTB crapped on Clana, Lana, Clark and maybe Clois (that remains to be seen). I just think they could have done better.

[Lilah]

I understand the need of comic readers to watch SV fitting to mythos but they have to understand that there are a lot of people who doesn´t care mythos too ,people who watches the series as an alternate version or adaptation.As I said before , I can´t understand this anger against Clana because it doesn´t fit in the mythos when , for example , they bring us Doomsday (the one who kills superman) before Clark started his training and everybody is excited about that.

Seems for me that the argument of the fidelity to the mythos is brought when it´s convenient for the people who criticizes Clana but dissapears with everything else.I find it a little bit hypocritical.

I get that SV has got its own mythology. I get it. I do. My problem with Clana is how Dawson's Creek they made it. There were times Smallville couldn't be distinguished from One Tree Hill sometimes. In fact, every single triangle they ever created somone could see it from a thousand miles away. Chloe/Clark/Lana (from the PILOT), Clark/Lana/Lex (from SEASON 3, they even did photoshoots with the 3 of them, that wasn't coincidence), Davis/Chloe/Jimmy (from the second episode), Lois/Clark/Lana (from the first time we found out Lana was returning)... etc etc... The show would do better if they just left all the romantic ships behind and focused on some real superhero stuff. Some of the best episodes ever were the ones with no ships.... That's the problem I have with all ships. Even though I prefer some over others, I'd still prefer episodes where Clark is doing his RBB gig than when he's mooning over Lana or Lois.:)

[Jor-Fer]

I get that SV has got its own mythology. I get it. I do. My problem with Clana is how Dawson's Creek they made it. There were times Smallville couldn't be distinguished from One Tree Hill sometimes. In fact, every single triangle they ever created somone could see it from a thousand miles away. Chloe/Clark/Lana (from the PILOT), Clark/Lana/Lex (from SEASON 3, they even did photoshoots with the 3 of them, that wasn't coincidence), Davis/Chloe/Jimmy (from the second episode), Lois/Clark/Lana (from the first time we found out Lana was returning)... etc etc... The show would do better if they just left all the romantic ships behind and focused on some real superhero stuff. Some of the best episodes ever were the ones with no ships.... That's the problem I have with all ships. Even though I prefer some over others, I'd still prefer episodes where Clark is doing his RBB gig than when he's mooning over Lana or Lois.:)


I agree , the show would be more enjoyable with less drama and more action or mistery , in fact despite I liked Clana from the begining to the end I admit that I have been upset a lot of times since season 4 about the handling of the relationship.
One of the things that I miss a lot was the battle choreography , action scenes are usually short and foolish (bring us more like the ones against bizarro , Titan or even Lana Vs. Tess!)

[tj_powers]

I get that SV has got its own mythology. I get it. I do. My problem with Clana is how Dawson's Creek they made it. There were times Smallville couldn't be distinguished from One Tree Hill sometimes. In fact, every single triangle they ever created somone could see it from a thousand miles away. Chloe/Clark/Lana (from the PILOT), Clark/Lana/Lex (from SEASON 3, they even did photoshoots with the 3 of them, that wasn't coincidence), Davis/Chloe/Jimmy (from the second episode), Lois/Clark/Lana (from the first time we found out Lana was returning)... etc etc... The show would do better if they just left all the romantic ships behind and focused on some real superhero stuff. Some of the best episodes ever were the ones with no ships.... That's the problem I have with all ships. Even though I prefer some over others, I'd still prefer episodes where Clark is doing his RBB gig than when he's mooning over Lana or Lois.:)

Well to answer to that "Dawson's Creek like" its because it is a CW show (originally Warner Bros branch) which is all made for the teen-bop era. Yes there is alot of romance for a superhero show but that differenciates this show from other superman shows shown in the past because the story always remains relevant. I think adding the Clana arc once more this season is relevant to Lex's "death" and her saving Clark's life in this episode. I think even if there are parts we might not enjoy they tend to make them relevant at some point even if they do tend to twist the story plots once in a while. You cant really blame them either, they are up to 8 seasons and going on 9 and sometimes having to follow one story tends to end into a brick wall, which is why they put in 1 or 2 more plots to one episode and they clash in a big way. They still make the show interesting in my view.

[InAFlash]

There are arguments saying that Lois will be Clark´s soulmate because it happens in the mythos but think for a minute , SV has been twisting the mythos in his convenience constantly:\.For me is more shocking that Clark have defeated Kryptonians,bizarro,Brainiac,etc...before even starting his training than the possibility of turning Lois into a second choice.TPTB surely can do this , having Clark married with Lois (ok with the mythos) but allowing us to notice that it´s only because Lana isn´t there.



I understand the need of comic readers to watch SV fitting to mythos but they have to understand that there are a lot of people who doesn´t care mythos too ,people who watches the series as an alternate version or adaptation.As I said before , I can´t understand this anger against Clana because it doesn´t fit in the mythos when , for example , they bring us Doomsday (the one who kills superman) before Clark started his training and everybody is excited about that.

Seems for me that the argument of the fidelity to the mythos is brought when it´s convenient for the people who criticizes Clana but dissapears with everything else.I find it a little bit hypocritical.

These are excellent points and ITA. For myself, when discussing who Clark loves more, Lana or Lois, I can only comment based on what I've been seeing on Smallville for 7+ years. For now I would have to say based on what has happened so far Clark IMO loves Lana more than Lois without a doubt. I respect anyone who follows the mythos but I can't see how it's relevant to what is happening on this show. I always assumed that this was an alternate version of the show because as you point out they've already changed so much from the mythos. If somebody can show me definitively where TPTB have said that they will not change the mythos in regards to Lois & Clark then I guess I'll have to accept that and no longer debate this topic.

Assuming it is still open for discussion and to answer the original posters question, I would have to say yes. Who am I to argue with Clark and TPTB. If Clark says that Lois is his soulmate and the true love of his life and gives her the bracelet that Kyla gave him then I will accept that and move on. In other words if they choose to follow the mythos on this then I'm fine with that. Doing so would change my perspective of how he feels about Lana. I would still believe that he loved her but not as much as he now loves Lois. I have to agree with Jor-Fer though in believing that TPTB will probably leave this debate open forever and Clark will probably not utter those words. I don't think they'll want to upset either fan base.

[MountainSniper]

...."Lois is THE one, she's the one I want to be with, my SOULMATE that has been in front of me all this time..."

Would your perspective and/or opinion of Clana being end-game change?

How would you feel about that as a Clana fan?


Of course such words would change my mind and on Smallville Clana would be regulated to second place as a serious romantic relationship but not the love of Clark’s life and his ultimate soul mate.

If Clark said the above “theoretical” quote then you as a Clois fan would have hard irrefutable evidence taken directly from the official version of the show that proves that Lois Lane is Clark Kent’s soul mate even in the alternative universe of the Smallville TV show.

With the above “theoretical” quote you would have the ace that trumps everything said before on the show and out side of some sour grapes whining from illogical disgruntled sore loser Clana fans Clois would win the final hand and the whole pot.

But as of today you don’t have this “theoretical” quote as evidence; do you?

Instead we have the alternative universe of Smallville where Clark Kent loves Lana Lang and Lois Lane loves Clark Kent who is in turn indifferent to Lois romantically.

I personally think the powers that be should have killed Lana Lang since death is the ultimate closure where there is no coming back from.

Then the “powers that be” should have had Clark Kent being alone romantically until at the very end of Smallville when he falls in love with a completely indifferent Lois Lane who treats Clark Kent and his unrequited love for her like crap because Lois has to fall head over heels for Superman at first sight.

The classic Superman/Lois/Clark triangle is and always will be the best because it is hilarious that the worlds greatest investigative reporter can’t see that the mysterious super hero she is in love with is the ordinary guy standing right in front of her wearing horn rimmed glasses crushing on her.

The classic Superman/Lois/Clark triangle is funny, poignant, bittersweet and most of all relatable to the audience since we have all lived through at least one experience of unrequited love answered by fatal indifference.

All the best,

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

[jlbtjb316]

I have been very interested to read all the various opinions about this episode. It seems that some fans feel the episode proves that Lana is Clark’s true love (endgame) and that Lois will always be second best, and other fans feel that this episode proves that Clark and Lana do not truly love each other because they did not fight for each other. To me, I don’t think either statement is true. I think that Clark and Lana do truly love each other and that TPTB tried to come up with a way to separate them that would be insurmountable. In their minds, there is no way to solve the problem. The only one that could help them is Dr. Grohl, and Lana said that she had been working with him and they had tried everything that they could to reverse the process. There are no other experts in alien nano-technology that they can consult to try to solve the problem. I guess it would have been nice to see them working over a long period of time to get rid of the kryptonite, but given Kristin's limited number of episodes, this was not possible. Given the unusual nature of their problem, I thought that Lana leaving was probably one of the kindest things that she could do for herself and for Clark. She knows that he would probably continue to try to go near her and she could not bear for him to continue to put himself through that pain, nor could she bear it. It is also understandable to me that she would find it painful to stick around and watch Clark from afar go on with his life and find someone else. She also knows that if she stays, he will once again be distracted from his destiny by trying to find a cure for her. By leaving, she loves him enough to let him go and allow him to try to move on and be happy and fulfill his destiny.

As for the conclusion that Lois will always be second best, I don’t think this is true either. To me, just because Clark loves Lana now does not mean that he will not truly love Lois in the future. In the same way, just because he loves Lois in the future does not mean that he does not truly love Lana now. Both relationships are meaningful and beautiful to Clark at different times in his life. There are many people who lose someone that they really love and then go on to find someone else that they also truly love. Those people would probably never say that they loved one more than the other because each relationship is different and beautiful in its own way. I think that by ending the Clark and Lana relationship with them still in love was one way that they could show both loves of Clark without disrespecting either relationship. I have often been critical of the show for elevating one character or relationship at the expense of another, and I am glad that they chose not to do that this time. I have watched the show since the beginning, and I knew all along that they were going to follow the mythos by having Clark end up with Lois, but that has not diminished my enjoyment of the Clana relationship. I would hope that Clois fans will be able to enjoy their future relationship without having that enjoyment diminished by the fact that Clark loved Lana. It seems that it is not enough for some that Clark will love Lois in the future. They also want him to subtly minimize his love for Lana by stating that what he has with Lois is better, greater and deeper than anything he ever had with Lana. If Clark was to make such a statement, then I am not sure what purpose it would serve. If Clark truly loves Lois in the future, then such a statement will not make that love any greater but will seem like an unnecessary dig at fans who have enjoyed the Clana relationship. I hope that TPTB will simply leave his relationship with Lana as it is and then slowly, over time, build his relationship with Lois. This way, neither Clana nor Clois fans should feel disrespected. I guess we will just have to see how things play out.

[Malicieux Toutou]

Let's say a guy marries a girl who he is completely in love with, but she dies young in a tragic accident. He later meets and marries another woman and is surprised to discover that his love for her is just a strong, and that he is perhaps even happier with her than he was with his first wife. Does this mean his first wife wasn't actually his "soul mate?" I think it just means that there is no such thing as a "soul mate." It's romantic nonsense. There are many people out there that we could live happily ever after with.

But in the world of Smallville, it is implied that Clark does have a soul mate and that his soul mate is Lois. They've hammered this point home through foreshadowing and subtext. But the ending of the Clana relationship appears to contradict this point, and I'm not sure how or if they are going to reconcile this apparent contradiction.

ETA: The term "sloppy seconds" has a crude and specific meaning. The term is not applicable to the Lana/Clark/Lois situation.

[jlbtjb316]

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I had seen the particular expression that you mentioned used many times on this site by others in the context of this episode. Not being familiar with the expression, I was unaware of any crude or offensive meaning and have edited my post accordingly. I do tend to agree that there is no such thing as a soul mate and that it is possible to truly love more than one person in a lifetime. Whether or not it is implied that Clark and Lois or Clark and Lana are soul mates in Smallville depends largely on your point of view. If you are a Clana fan, you tend to see that Clark and Lana are soul mates, and if you are a Clois fan or comics fan you tend to interpret the foreshadowing and subtext as supporting the idea that Clark and Lois are soul mates. The way I view it is that Clark and Lana truly love one another now, and the foreshadowing indicates that Lois is the one that he loves in the future, not that either is his "soul mate".

[tj_powers]

i agree with malicieux toutou (by the way clever name lol) that Lois should not be considered a sloppy second considering their relationship was always short lived.

[Snowfire]

I really believe Clark/TPTB are not dumb enough to ever say that. And the idea of soulmates may mean something completely different to different people. Clark has had many soulmates on his life, as I see it.

But I can see Clark moving on to Lois next year and having a relationship with her due to the loss of certain people. Clois will no doubt happen but I have no doubt it will run its course as well. Just like Lexana did. Every other medium has a Clark and Lois relationship so what's the point of rehashing it here for the series finale. It would just be another waste of an opportunity to give Clark a new story, which was what Smallville has been all about. An original and unique ending would defy that prescribed destiny.

I also have faith that the foundation of Smallville has left so many openings for Lana to return in the future, cured and able to be with Clark at last. KK even hinted she might come back for the series finale and if it would honor the relationship that give life to Smallville, then she would definitely bring Lana back. Where else could Clana exist than in this universe?

[simplemath]

I guess I see it this way, Lana and Clark truly does love each other now and I have to agree with Mountain Sniper that the only closure we could get from clana is the fact that lana would die. Although I am a clana fan I did not like the idea that they left an open ending. The writers gave us false hopes when they truly intend lois and clark ending up together.

[tj_powers]

the season is far from over... there is no false hope there... it just hasnt happened yet... we are 6 episodes away from season finale and then season 9