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Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Tom Welling can't act to save his life. I've have heard the comments about how he is not a good actor for years but last night it really showed. Kristin was fantastic in the last 20 mins and showed so much pain and emotion that it was almost unbelivable. Tom couldn't even hold a candle to her, and his look of pain face just came off like he was constipated. It's too bad Kristin has been on this show for 8years because now she will never get a chance to show how talented she really is.

Iluvgreen
02-06-2009, 09:07 AM
Oh he didn't do that bad.

thehenry89
02-06-2009, 09:08 AM
I have to disagree, and agree. Last night wasn't tom's best night, but overall he's a good actor. He's no lawrence Oliver, but he can hold his own.

tonnmiister
02-06-2009, 09:08 AM
yeah, he didnt, he looked constipated because he was in actual pain due to the kryptonite

smallvillerocks45
02-06-2009, 09:09 AM
I completely disagree. Kristin was fantastic, but she just had to play sad. Tom, on the other hand had to play completely devastated and nearly poisoned to death in the same breath. He was quite fantastic, too.

Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Tom might be good outside of Smallville, but compared to Kristin he was completely blown away. Plus Clark's Im in pain from Kryptonite face has never worked for me.

costas22
02-06-2009, 09:13 AM
Viola is right.He had to play two separate emotions because he was hearting both physically and emotionaly.Anyone who thinks Tom Welling can't act at all,should watch the final scene of Vengeance.Personally,i thought it was his finest hour.

Mickey_Bickey
02-06-2009, 09:15 AM
I've seen Tom Welling perform 10 times better on this show and outside of it then what we saw last night.

I'm convinced that the reason he didn't perform well in this episode (especially the last scene) is because his heart was not in it. There is no way he could be happy with that script not after all the progress his character made before Legion. I think his acting hasn't been good during this entire arc with the exception of Bulletproof minus the end. I was literally cringing watching that last scene last night. It was dreadful, and as a fan of Tom Welling and his character I was embarrassed for him.

I think we'll see Tom return to the top of his game come Infamous.

RingzTerritory
02-06-2009, 09:15 AM
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devilicus rebel
02-06-2009, 09:15 AM
Yea the only thing I really noticed about last night was that Tom seemed out of it. I thought the worst part was when he was pretending to talk to Chloe, it was a mess.

Dominicus
02-06-2009, 09:20 AM
I honestly think tom was the better, I didn't like the role, but he really pulled of the scene which is why everyone is so mad at clark, and can't stand him right now. The spisode polling suggested he is the least like character of the episode. That's how the characters was written be, for him to be a pathetic groveling dog.

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Yea the only thing I really noticed about last night was that Tom seemed out of it. I thought the worst part was when he was pretending to talk to Chloe, it was a mess. Yeah, that scene was bad, he was angry for no reason. It was just a bad episode

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is this a KK fan site or something? I can't write "Kristin, get acting classes" but someone can make a thread bashing the star of this show? lol

kristin can't act, the only acting kristin is probably good at is faking an orgasm on the casting couch she laid on to get on this show.lol :rotfl:Thank you! that's what I've been saying! Not in those exact words mind you. But Kreuk's Lana character is nothing like mythos, because it was replaced by Kreuk's first highschool roll in edgemont, it is the exact same character.

Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 09:24 AM
I didn't feel too much from anyone, actually.

Kristin Kreuk has never ranked high on my list of actors. She's alright, but I've never been moved by her performances. I've always thought that both Erica and Allison surpass her acting talent. Each of the latter has had at least one moment where they have quite literally reduced me to tears! That is quite a feat as I am not typically a person who cries, especially not for a television series.

As for Tom Welling, he's comes off rather stiff! The man simply cannot emote sometimes!

It also seems that he is tired of the series. That is just my opinion, mind you, but he doesn't seem to into it. It shouldn't be noticeable to the audience, but it is to me. There are episodes where he does shine, this season included, but during this whole Lana arc, I have just seen him so bland.

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is this a KK fan site or something? I can't write "Kristin, get acting classes" but someone can make a thread bashing the star of this show? lol

kristin can't act, the only acting kristin is probably good at is faking an orgasm on the casting couch she laid on to get on this show.

While I agree that Kristin Kreuk is not a good actress, I don't agree that we need to get personal about the actress.

Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:25 AM
I have always liked Kristin but can't stand Lana. I have never seen Kristin wow an audience with her performance on this show but imo, last night she did pull a wow on me. Maybe the problem was that Tom didnt like the writing and Kristin could give her all because she did like the writing. Tom wasn't just bad in the last scene either, I didn't find him beliavable in the hospital with Oliver, in his show down with Lex, I found him farely belivable in his talk with Chloe but only barely.

Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 09:26 AM
Yea the only thing I really noticed about last night was that Tom seemed out of it. I thought the worst part was when he was pretending to talk to Chloe, it was a mess.

My theory is that a lot of people projected their own emotions into the scene. So some saw art and some saw its antithesis. In actuality, I believe the performance was just alright.

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I have always liked Kristin but can't stand Lana. I have never seen Kristin wow an audience with her performance on this show but imo, last night she did pull a wow on me. Maybe the problem was that Tom didnt like the writing and Kristin could give her all because she did like the writing. Tom wasn't just bad in the last scene either, I didn't find him beliavable in the hospital with Oliver, in his show down with Lex, I found him farely belivable in his talk with Chloe but only barely.

That scene with Erica Durance in Committed was the type of scene that blows you away. It was a small piece and very subtle but the amount of emotion that went into that one moment where a sob tears out from Lois's mouth was just so intense. I shed tears and didn't even know why the heck I was crying! I mean the woman was confessing her love, not being tortured to death! And yet the shame and the embarrassment, the fact that it was obviously forced upon her, and the fact that Erica Durance is such a splendid dramatist made that scene so incredible!

That scene was heart wrenching. Not because we expected it to be. Not because we had our own investments in that scene. It just came out of left field and sort of punched us in the gut. That is why that scene worked and that is why that scene is so memorable. :)

Smallvillebabe08
02-06-2009, 09:51 AM
He acted perfectly fine

smallv17
02-06-2009, 10:03 AM
Tom was awsome, as always!

Isabel14
02-06-2009, 10:09 AM
I think he tried his best, but it seemed that he didn't like the script, and he didn't put his best, cause I had the feeling he didn't like the development of his character. Now I'm wondering, in Infamous will we make a difference? I think that yes, just make the comparison: how he acted in the first half of the season and how he acted now. And I think KK was great, too.

REebee52
02-06-2009, 10:29 AM
Viola is right.He had to play two separate emotions because he was hearting both physically and emotionaly.Anyone who thinks Tom Welling can't act at all,should watch the final scene of Vengeance.Personally,i thought it was his finest hour.

The final scene in vengeance was absolutely his finest hour, and is one of Smallville's best scenes.
It's also one of the only scenes where he's looked convincingly sad, and believably crying, and it was phenomenal.
On the whole, he's a capable actor. Like the show itself, Tom has had fantastic moments and some rather horrible moments... But he's done a fine job overall. I thought the last scene last night was well done. The pain looked real, both physically and emotionally. Kristin might have stolen the scene, but Tom held his own.

And of Kristin Kreuk, I think she is a fantastic actress. If only for the fact that Smallville has given her absurd lines/stories to play and she always makes it believable. I don't know how she delivered some of the garbage she was written to say, but she almost always pulled it off. Last night, while not perhaps the ideal way to end Clana, did allow Kristin to show off her fantastic ability.

And as someone said, Erica Durance is also good. The scene in committed is probably her finest hour so far, but she's done some great things as well.

As for Tom once more: he probably has never been the best actor on the show. He's been across John Schneider, John Glover, Michael Rosenbaum, Kristin Kreuk, Erica Durance, and Allison Mack. All of them are great actors, probably better than he is, but he's always kept up.

Tompouce
02-06-2009, 10:37 AM
I have to say, some scenes from Tom were not his best ones but when he is alone at the end and says "I love you", I don't know why I find him amazing. He successed to make with this only quote an particular emotion. I can't tell you why but to me, his distress was palpable. The way he acts at this moment makes you imagine all you can have in mind in a desperate situation. Maybe it is me but I can feel it. So Tom was great whatever...
Anyway, I looked the show at first for the story of course but after some episodes, I was always thinking about TW's faces and emotions, how it was great,...And this is always true for me. He is an excellent actor.

Night-Wolf
02-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Although many here disagree, I think Tom did a great job in this episode. His acting may not have been the best (compared to his final scene in Vengeance) but it was still great. It was more the writers' fault for people not liking him in this episode.

alejandrita439
02-06-2009, 06:34 PM
tom did a great job i think :)

Bizarrolover
02-06-2009, 06:47 PM
I think Tom was very correct in his performance. He plays Clark Kent, a very stiff , controlled character who doesn't allow himself to be ruled by his emotions. And you can't expect him to sob like a woman, it's rare to see male actors breaking down like that. Vengeance was Tom's most dramatic performance (he sobbed like a child in that episode) and that was the first and only time Clark cried his father's death. I think he did good.

Loisdragon
02-06-2009, 07:24 PM
I never complain on Actors actiing skill because at the end of the day they are getting more money then ME

SpeedDemon77
02-06-2009, 07:37 PM
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I thought there was a rule on this site about bashing the actors/actresses. Bashing characters is one thing, but the 'casting couch' comment is in poor taste. Period. Did you know that the actors/actresses log on to this site and read some of the comments? Is that something you'd be willing to say to one of them personally? Oh, forgot...it's okay behind the false bravado courtesy a computer screen.

I think this whole thread is in poor taste, by the way, but I have yet to report it to the head admin. Might not be far off though. I wouldn't have said anything at all....simply reading all this in jest, such opinions by those who probably never so much as attended even one acting class, except this particular remark about Kristin is way out of line, dude. Sooo not cool.

petitemimi
02-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Well, maybe Tom is as sick as everyone else of Clana. And it's worse for him. We can always switch channel but he actually has to go through that, like it or not.

SpeedDemon77
02-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Well, maybe Tom is as sick as everyone else of Clana. And it's worse for him. We can always switch channel but he actually has to go through that, like it or not.


Actually Tom said he was glad this show was portraying another romance besides the Clark/Lois deal, since it's been played in nearly every other Superman depiction and this particular one wasn't meant to show the same interpretation of Supes yet again. He thought they were introducing Lois into the show for Lex.

paolinki25
02-06-2009, 08:12 PM
Aside from the awfulness of the storyline and everything involving Lana's departure, you have to admit Kristin has always been great expressing emotions and she got better and better as the seasons progressed.

Just Another Guy
02-06-2009, 08:28 PM
Tom did fantastic in the last scene. He has always played Clark as a very emotionally restricted character. To see him struggling like he did last night was just heart-wrenching. As terrific as KK was, he was what made the moment so tragic, IMO.

I thought he was amazing.

zorasuperman
02-06-2009, 08:29 PM
i thought he acted fine

newfamfan
02-06-2009, 08:47 PM
I think Tom was very correct in his performance. He plays Clark Kent, a very stiff , controlled character who doesn't allow himself to be ruled by his emotions. And you can't expect him to sob like a woman, it's rare to see male actors breaking down like that. Vengeance was Tom's most dramatic performance (he sobbed like a child in that episode) and that was the first and only time Clark cried his father's death. I think he did good.

He did great in Reckoning as well when he was in the fortress begging for Lana's death to be reversed. He was sobbing harshly with the tears streaming. Yet, I have to admit that Vengeance struck a chord with me because I knew Jonathan wouldn't be back unlike Lana in the Reckoning episode.

I watch this show mainly for Tom Welling. At times, he as well as the rest of the cast including the greats of them, can be stale in their acting. However, Requiem was not one of those cases. Tom was at one of his peaks as far as I am concerned. I applaud him and KK for their performance.

AS far as TW not being into it because he was tired of clana....think about it really hard. In interviews, he has said he has no idea why they brought Lois on Smallville. And this was his last acting with Kristin, a dear friend and coworker of almost 8 years. I would say that it was a pleasure to do a final scene with her and anything but stale.

rebecavaldez
02-06-2009, 08:49 PM
OMG! Tom Welling is an awesome actor! I think you were just mad that Lana was leaving and didn't realize how great both of them did!

Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:03 PM
^^^Are you talking to me? I'm mad about Lana leaving, please. I have expressed how happy I am to see her go. Just because I express how stiff and weak of an actor Tom is when compared to Kristin in his scenes does that mean I'm a Lana fanatic?

Dominicus
02-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Actually Tom said he was glad this show was portraying another romance besides the Clark/Lois deal, since it's been played in nearly every other Superman depiction and this particular one wasn't meant to show the same interpretation of Supes yet again. He thought they were introducing Lois into the show for Lex.that comment is old

petitemimi
02-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Actually Tom said he was glad this show was portraying another romance besides the Clark/Lois deal, since it's been played in nearly every other Superman depiction and this particular one wasn't meant to show the same interpretation of Supes yet again.

Well, he may have said that in S1 (and I haven't seen it btw), but as soon as S3, and again in S6, he said in an interview (that I can actually quote) that clana should be over.


And about Lois being introduced for Lex? :lol: Well you would have to tell me where you read this. Because he said that he didn't see why Lois was introduced if she wasn't going to be a love interest for Clark.

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AS far as TW not being into it because he was tired of clana....think about it really hard. In interviews, he has said he has no idea why they brought Lois on Smallville.

Yeah, but you didn't finished: he had no idea shy they brought Lois on Smallville if she wasnt' going to be a love interest for Clark.

The Red Aaron
02-06-2009, 09:31 PM
Kristen did show more emotion in her acting.

petitemimi
02-06-2009, 09:32 PM
[QUOTE=Dyanara;4440867Just because I express how stiff and weak of an actor Tom is when compared to Kristin in his scenes does that mean I'm a Lana fanatic?[/QUOTE]

So because you didn't like him in one freakin stupid scene over 160 episodes, he's a bad actor? :rolleyes: Yeah, how I love those actor bashing threads...

Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Excuse me did I ever say that based on that one scene he was bad? NO I said based on that one scene, plus the others in the episode it has become official to me that he is a bad actor. I have seen him limp through scenes since season 1, out of 160 he has had maybe 20 good episodes.
And Tom said that Clana comment back in 2001? Oh for the love of gawd, even I was for Lana*Clark back then.

Fugoukakusha
02-07-2009, 01:15 AM
Well, he may have said that in S1 (and I haven't seen it btw), but as soon as S3, and again in S6, he said in an interview (that I can actually quote) that clana should be over.


And about Lois being introduced for Lex? :lol: Well you would have to tell me where you read this. Because he said that he didn't see why Lois was introduced if she wasn't going to be a love interest for Clark.

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Yeah, but you didn't finished: he had no idea shy they brought Lois on Smallville if she wasnt' going to be a love interest for Clark.

I'm behind any Smallville news whatsoever so can someone please post the link for that interview? I would very much like to see :)

skugers
02-07-2009, 05:16 AM
It was the best he could deliver with this crappy script. End of story

Kal El 12
02-07-2009, 11:17 AM
He's had some great acting episodes through the years . If he didn't the show wouldn't still be on cause when it's all said and done he's the main character. That being said requiem was not one've them... But i believe a bad arc and a bad script didn't help him out any... Ever hear actors say " what's my motivation"? I'm thinkin the exact same thing for the clark charactor right now....

you_smell_terrific
02-07-2009, 11:29 PM
I completely disagree. I just rewatched the scene (which is something I thought I would never watch twice *gags on clana*). I actually thought the scene was really well done. For a moment I honestly felt bad for Clana and was able to forget the complete ridiculousness that had been going on for the past couple episodes and just lived in that sad moment. Kristen's acting was superb, and it really gets me at the part where she says something about never being able to touch him, and the tears runs down her face. Wow.

As for Tom, I thought he did beautifully as well. The only part that made me cringe was when he initially starts to walk over to her. There's this really awkward stumbling and he just looked really stupid lmao. BUT, I was sucked right back into the scene with his acting after that. Tom has always done physical pain amazingly well to me and I thought he balanced the physical/emotional perfectly.


Other examples of Tom's acting ability:

Transference; He gets the mannerisms and speech of Lionel spot on and I actually BELIEVE he is lionel. It takes skill to not only be a different version of your character, but to be a completely DIFFERENT character that already exists on the show.

Blank; It was completely believable that he lost his memory. He was still Clark, but there was something off about him because of the memory loss and Tom did it perfectly.

Spell; Great comedic skills at playing a mindless frat boy lmao.

Noir; More comedic timing and did the bumbling dork very well.

Promise; when he was watching Lana and Lex leave in the limo. His pain was so emotional that he looked like he was PHYSICALLY in pain. My heart ached for Clark in that moment, and that's 100% because Tom acted that scene so beautifully.

Pilot; Despite his unbelievable body, Tom was able to pull off a 16 year old boy. People seem to take for granted actors that play highschool students. Tom was into his 20's at that point and yet the way he acted and the way he held himself made it believable.

Any Redk episode; Plays a completely different person. Playful, yet hardened; flirtacious, yet cold. He plays different versions of redk Clark depending on what he was going through during those seasons.


I'm sure there's more, but you guys get the point. Are the Smallville cast the greatest actors in the world? No, but they are pretty damn good and they ALL have their spectacular moments. Anyone who says otherwise is either completely blind or is just reaching to pick a fight.

zHeN_zHeN
02-07-2009, 11:59 PM
Honestly, I didn't think Tom did as well as he could have done (he's definitely done A LOT better). Kristin, on the other hand, was terrific. She really put her heart into that last scene. Tom seemed a bit stiff and lacked emotion. C'mon, the love of his life is walking out on him--yet again and probably for the last time--and he doesn't even shed a tear? Huh? Am I missing something? He didn't seem like he was all there. And, if you watch closely as he's walking up to Lana, he looks right into the camera. He was probably thinking, "WTF am I doing? This is BS!" Seriously, watch the scene again. He looks at the camera for a split second. Anyway, that was the impression I got. Ah, well.

the fatty
02-08-2009, 12:15 AM
Both TW and KK did perfectly fine... I think some of you need to remember that your watching smallville the tv show, and not a high paid full out movie!

Anyone new reading this site would think that most of the users on here didnt actually like smallville! How about people post some good comments for a change?!

redkryptoniteisthebest
02-08-2009, 12:40 AM
Great post the fatty! Honestly, these people need to realize this is a show, not a movie, like you said!

I know exactly what you mean! I know people who think half the members here hate the show itself. We need positive, non-hating posts (about ships, characters, Lana) here on K-Site. I can't stand the bashing anymore!

zHeN_zHeN
02-08-2009, 02:09 AM
^^ Hey, you can't possibly love everything about a show. That's just the way it is.

But, right now, I think a lot of people (myself included) are just a bit upset with how things turned out these last couple of episodes.

So, I'm sure when things get back to normal, attitudes and opinions will change, and all will be good in SV world again.

Well, hopefully... and soon. Like in a month, or so. :]

bigblueplanet
02-08-2009, 07:23 AM
I’ll answer directly to the question of the thread as ‘I’ (= me).


One thing I've learned from yesterday.

= PS3 don’t have a clue who Clark Kent is.

hero`s passion
02-08-2009, 09:54 AM
I think Tom is a very good actor, and as for me, less of emotions was written by the writers, because, as I think, they try to show that Clark understands and accepts that Clana is over and he is not a little boy anymore to cry about it, so they showed his spirit power...the same was in Bride for me, Clark`s emotions were very hard to understand, but Lois` feelings were very clearly showed, not because Erica is better than Tom (maybe she is), but because the writers wanted to show us HER feelings not Clark`s... so I think Tom was good as always:))))))))

Coyote
02-08-2009, 10:34 AM
Tom doesn't have much natural talent or personal charisma, and will never be a great actor, but he does seem to have put a lot of effort and practice into his work over the years that he's been on the show. He's definitely improved from the first season and is now capable of doing a fairly professional job within his limited range. However, I'd have to agree that his performance in this episode was weak, and Kristin did blow him away in their scenes.

SGuthrie27
02-08-2009, 10:39 AM
Tom did a good enough job for me. He's had plenty of times where his acting was AMAZING, so I don't think someone can call him a bad actor simply because he was outdone by KK in that final scene. Seriously, she rocked the house in the emotional depth of that one, and was way better than Tom, but that doesn't mean he was bad at all -- he just wasn't quite as up to par as she was in that particular scene.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Tatiana
02-08-2009, 10:45 AM
I think Tom did a good job, might have not been his best but I think it was done in purpose. I still believe somehow there was a reason why Lana kept repeating I will always love you, plus she knew that all that happened it was part her fault, if it weren't because she wanted the suit, Lex wouldn't have been able to separate them that way. She always wanted to be like Clark. I think there is a good reason why Clark didn't say I will always love you, and why he could have handled seeing her in Smallville without being with her unlike Lana, she said it herself. I think Tom portrayed that real well for what it was needed.

MuchaLana
02-08-2009, 10:53 AM
Tom was ok...he has improved a lot..just look at the pilot episode. Yikes!! Best actors were Michael (lex) and John (lionel) too bad they are now gone :(

zHeN_zHeN
02-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Tom was ok...he has improved a lot..just look at the pilot episode. Yikes!! Best actors were Michael (lex) and John (lionel) too bad they are now gone :(
So so true! And, don't forget AO & JS! Those 4 were the BEST!

Dyanara
02-08-2009, 05:52 PM
Both TW and KK did perfectly fine... I think some of you need to remember that your watching smallville the tv show, and not a high paid full out movie!

Anyone new reading this site would think that most of the users on here didnt actually like smallville! How about people post some good comments for a change?!

So Kristin, Alison, Erica, Michael, John, and the chick who plays Tess can give their all in every scene on this CW show but when it comes to Tom, I'm just supposed to say, oh well he's bad because its just a tv show? I don't think so.
SGuthrie you are right, I shouldn't have said he was a bad actor because although he has always been stiff and bad with emotion he has had some very good scenes on this show. I think I was just so blown away by Kristin that I jumped the gun.

Just Another Guy
02-09-2009, 06:29 AM
Both TW and KK did perfectly fine... I think some of you need to remember that your watching smallville the tv show, and not a high paid full out movie!
What does that have to do with anything? Most movie stars are overrated anyway...

Tom was great, and I find him to be tragically underrated.