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zorasuperman
02-05-2009, 07:27 PM
What do you think of our good ol Clark kent? has he progressed into Superman? or Super baby?

paolinki25
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
This version of Clark Kent is far, extremely far from becoming Superman. No way.

6-Super-Man -5
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Come on...
He's Superman!

Timester
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Superman has nothing to do with Clark's romantic life.

Mrs. Superman
02-05-2009, 07:30 PM
Oh definitely Superbaby! Superman is about hope, not despair. Since when was the path a tragic love story?

atcannes
02-05-2009, 07:30 PM
whens he gonna fly proper??

thehenry89
02-05-2009, 07:32 PM
superpreteen is more like it.

Timester
02-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Oh definitely Superbaby! Superman is about hope, not despair.

Superman is about hope. Clark's romantic life is not Superman. Saving people is.

Come on people, it's completely two different things.

Krypton935
02-05-2009, 07:33 PM
Superman period end of it!

ZODisGOD
02-05-2009, 07:34 PM
He's the hero we deserve, AND the one we need. He's a guardian angel, mankind's hope. A Man of Steel (SUPERMAN)

Anklh
02-05-2009, 07:35 PM
I am starting to think that staying for the training that Jor-EL had in store for him years ago would have turned out better for all.

paolinki25
02-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Superman has nothing to do with Clark's romantic life.

Exactly. And this show has managed to make the center of his world. Who Clark dates? Why Clark can't be with Lana? Clark is confused about his love life...It's ok for Clark to kill when it comes to Lana...

KEakaCK
02-05-2009, 07:40 PM
I really couldn't stand Clark in this episode...He was a paradox onto himself.
It's amazing how Clark can just simply dismiss what almost happened with Lois in Bride and pick things up with Lana without giving a single thought about Lois.
Clarks been on his almighty high horse lately, lecturing to Oliver, Chloe, the Legionaires about doing no harm no matter what then when he and Lana can't be close to each other, he runs off to kill Lex...Hypocrite!!!!
This season was going so well in regards to the development of Clark into the hero that we all know and love...However, in this episode, he just the leap all the way back. This isn't the SUPERMAN that's the world's greatest hero.

Mrs. Superman
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
Exactly. And this show has managed to make the center of his world. Who Clark dates? Why Clark can't be with Lana? Clark is confused about his love life...It's ok for Clark to kill when it comes to Lana...
I was just gonna respond but yours sums up the exact point I wanted to make.

Of course superman is about saving people, but this SVClark is so completely consumed by Lana. The relationship was hardly healthy and he endured it for 8 years! EIGHT YEARS! I guess I shouldve known from the first few seasons this wasn't really pre-supes, but more like a drama love story. He should be more concerned with saving people than a love that doesnt seem to move anywhere. I realize he's not superman yet but even pre superman Clark was more invested in his future, saving people, than in his highschool sweetheart. Today he did agree with lana saving people rather than being together, but I just hate that they would even take it there. WHY did they have to take it there when it is so unnecessary?

Alexander III
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Clark is superbaby whereas Shelby is superman. That explains all !!

KneelBeforeZod!
02-05-2009, 07:51 PM
He's Superman!...sort of...no really he's superman!...I think...okay, he's super...uh...he's supe...supe..err...

uh crap! WTF is he!!!

Chlarkislove
02-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Smallville has totally to the utmost destroyed Clark Kent and all hopes of him being icon Superman.

tippership commander
02-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Superman has nothing to do with Clark's romantic life.

and thats th MAIN thing, and the proof that ths thread is a spite thread..

i mean, comon..

he LEARNED today to NEVER kill, no matter wehat, and this SOLIDFIES it in him, another lesson for superman..

and yet, ppl all alread ycalling him a superbaby, when HE made the decision that lana HAD to do it....


rather than d osomething STUPID..

i'd call that superman behavor...

i guess, all the ppl voting superbaby are those who stopped watching a great show JUST because they think lana essed up a relationship that hadn't even started TRULY YET


.....

:rolleyes:

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I was just gonna respond but yours sums up the exact point I wanted to make.

Of course superman is about saving people, but this SVClark is so completely consumed by Lana. The relationship was hardly healthy and he endured it for 8 years! EIGHT YEARS! I guess I shouldve known from the first few seasons this wasn't really pre-supes, but more like a drama love story. He should be more concerned with saving people than a love that doesnt seem to move anywhere. I realize he's not superman yet but even pre superman Clark was more invested in his future, saving people, than in his highschool sweetheart. Today he did agree with lana saving people rather than being together, but I just hate that they would even take it there. WHY did they have to take it there when it is so unnecessary?


BECAUSE , the WHOLE point of SEASON 8, starting with OLIVER way BACK n the begenning, is coming to grips with HOW far a superhero will go


and that's the moral Season 8 will teach...

didn't you realize htat?

luvinChlark
02-05-2009, 08:06 PM
and thats th MAIN thing, and the proof that ths thread is a spite thread..

i mean, comon..

he LEARNED today to NEVER kill, no matter wehat, and this SOLIDFIES it in him, another lesson for superman..

and yet, ppl all alread ycalling him a superbaby, when HE made the decision that lana HAD to do it....



Actually he said in Legion that his number 1 rule was "Never to kill, EVER!" But Clana can't be together so he runs to Kill Lex! Then Lana of course has to stop him. :rolleyes: He's just not my superman..

RowdyEl
02-05-2009, 08:25 PM
how is Clark a superbaby?if I had just lost the one love of my life due to some mad mans ability to tear us apart forever,human instinct would want me to go and exact some revenge on the person.Clarks only downfall is that he has superhuman abilities to go along with those feelings so he has to be more careful in his actions.he is indeed Superman and not Superbot!

pbody
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
These last 4 episodes were the most pathetic depiction of Clark Kent in 8 seasons! I still can't believe it was a "real" Smallville story line. Will it still turn out to be somebody's dream/nightmare?

Mrs. Superman
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
and thats th MAIN thing, and the proof that ths thread is a spite thread..

i mean, comon..

he LEARNED today to NEVER kill, no matter wehat, and this SOLIDFIES it in him, another lesson for superman..

and yet, ppl all alread ycalling him a superbaby, when HE made the decision that lana HAD to do it....


rather than d osomething STUPID..

i'd call that superman behavor...

i guess, all the ppl voting superbaby are those who stopped watching a great show JUST because they think lana essed up a relationship that hadn't even started TRULY YET


.....

:rolleyes:

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----




BECAUSE , the WHOLE point of SEASON 8, starting with OLIVER way BACK n the begenning, is coming to grips with HOW far a superhero will go


and that's the moral Season 8 will teach...

didn't you realize htat?
They could have done it in a much less angsty way...they did not need to bring up this whole Lana Clark thing again and they certainly did not need to part on terms where they kryptonite kept them apart. Clark still wanted to be with Lana or have her in his life, she was the one who ultimately decided to let go because she couldnt bear to see him and not touch him. They could have used the same sacrifice and have her cured later, and maybe bring some closure to the situation but NO they didn't. They didn't have to take it this far, and IMO its a shame they decided to anyways. Regardless of what you believe the whole point is, I feel that they could have gone about it in a much better way. This, to me, was VERY unnecessary.

Not to mention Clark over looking a lot of the wrong about their relationship! When will he come to grips with it? Seems like never.

tippership commander
02-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Actually he said in Legion that his number 1 rule was "Never to kill, EVER!" But Clana can't be together so he runs to Kill Lex! Then Lana of course has to stop him. :rolleyes: He's just not my superman..


you know , you're correct in one thing..

and, it's the reason you 're a bit off


he's NOT superman yet, he's LEARNING..

and he did learn tonight, , OBVIOUSLY..

so.......

as far as "my superman"

if your superman is everyone else's ...then kee pwatching, while he transforms int oSuperman

blink2matrix
02-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Clark chose saving metropolis over saving his relationship with Lana. She wavered in the decision while he didn't.

Give the man a break for caring during their goodbye, lol. i wouldn't call him a baby for this.

tippership commander
02-05-2009, 08:43 PM
They could have done it in a much less angsty way...they did not need to bring up this whole Lana Clark thing again and they certainly did not need to part on terms where they kryptonite kept them apart. Clark still wanted to be with Lana or have her in his life, she was the one who ultimately decided to let go because she couldnt bear to see him and not touch him. They could have used the same sacrifice and have her cured later, and maybe bring some closure to the situation but NO they didn't. They didn't have to take it this far, and IMO its a shame they decided to anyways. Regardless of what you believe the whole point is, I feel that they could have gone about it in a much better way. This, to me, was VERY unnecessary.

Not to mention Clark over looking a lot of the wrong about their relationship! When will he come to grips with it? Seems like never.

@ mrs superman

...technically, they still can cure lana(example: Bizarr opowers up from her later on, and comes bac kt ofight clark<lana doesnt have to make another appearance, in this example> serving as closure, )

we cant call judgements yet, because closure is still possible till SV ends ,so we cant jump the gun

..
i think they planned it this way on purpose just to show how hard, and serios, the lesson IS, of not killing...

Clar kwas the one who said she had to do it, ....he knew what would happen, but acted like superman would..
...i think there's a method, however camouflaged, behind this madness

davidbrenton
02-05-2009, 08:58 PM
I voted Superbaby just out of spite. I really think he's closer to Superman, but I'm angry at him for dissing Lois. Booh!

tippership commander
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
he didnt diss what hasnt HAPPENED yet!

so dont boo something not real


cheer, for clark learned another critical SUPERMAN lesson

and ,dont lose hope

SUPERMAN wouldn't! so how can we?

unfocused
02-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Yeah, this is a spite thread.

You can be mad at Clark for not choosing your fave ship, but he's still Superman and pretty darn good at it.

Mrs. Superman
02-05-2009, 09:13 PM
@ mrs superman

...technically, they still can cure lana(example: Bizarr opowers up from her later on, and comes bac kt ofight clark<lana doesnt="" have="" to="" make="" another="" appearance,="" in="" this="" example=""> serving as closure, )

we cant call judgements yet, because closure is still possible till SV ends ,so we cant jump the gun

..
i think they planned it this way on purpose just to show how hard, and serios, the lesson IS, of not killing...

Clar kwas the one who said she had to do it, ....he knew what would happen, but acted like superman would..
...i think there's a method, however camouflaged, behind this madness
That's true and I hope you're right about the method behind this madness. I guess I'll just have to reserve my judgment for now.
</lana>

Watching Smallville
02-05-2009, 10:24 PM
He's fine except when it comes to Lana. That's just the SV spin on things.

BadToad
02-05-2009, 10:27 PM
I would say neither.

I think he can still be a good Superman. He's going to be a very mopey, tragic, broken Superman, but I believe he can still be a hero, and still help people. I don't believe he's cut out for a romantic relationship. But he can be a great hero.

Alicia Chipy
02-05-2009, 10:27 PM
He will truly be a Superman when he can make decisions on his own,and move on.
He must learn to be master of HIS domain before taking up a new relationship.

ZODisGOD
02-05-2009, 10:29 PM
These last 4 episodes were the most pathetic depiction of Clark Kent in 8 seasons! I still can't believe it was a "real" Smallville story line. Will it still turn out to be somebody's dream/nightmare?

I think you mean last 2-3

tippership commander
02-05-2009, 10:29 PM
That's true and I hope you're right about the method behind this madness. I guess I'll just have to reserve my judgment for now.
</lana>

i'm sure of it. After all , this IS smallville.

i just hope others will be able to see that there's way more to SV than this.

Darren5000
02-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Just about every May, he puts the world in peril so I don't know what makes him a Superman if we have to wait 3 months later to see if the Earth is still standing.:rotfl:

bigvillir001
02-05-2009, 10:43 PM
hey everyone,

i just re watched the eps 14 and clark is not baby he just lost his childhood sweethart and you can all on this forum can sit there and bash clark but the reall truth give first love is never an easy thing for anyou be it human or superman when we all lost are first love it a pain that is always with you and it hard to anyrhing with but as they time heals all pain... and that is left are the memories good the bad and the ugly But i also believe that clark was right it was a dream and dream very rarely come true when dealing with fist loves thats why its so hard to let go b/c people they will ever be able find anything else like again but the truth is first loves help u understand love and its power and it helps you find that one person that is your true equal

pizzahead2490
02-05-2009, 10:46 PM
i really really dont like clark...i never felt this way about him before but i really dont like him at all...

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ok maybe i am overreacting, clark just just ...

kiariclois
02-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Neither.. I voted for Superbaby though, because he's definitely NOT Superman. If you ask me, there should be an option for SDA (Super Dumb Alien)

malft
02-05-2009, 11:57 PM
I heard Lois Lane say one time that, "Clark is ....Clark." Clark in this series is very much Clark, and needs to see the world before he Capes up. When Smallville ends we will see Clark going to finish the training that Jor El said he needed. That will be finishing school for Superman. But not on this show!

skugers
02-06-2009, 12:17 AM
neither of them

Smallville Gone Bizarr
02-06-2009, 12:26 AM
Superbaby for now, by the time of Hex, he will get his act together and become superman!

zorasuperman
02-06-2009, 06:37 AM
i really hope so
heres to being optimistic
i really hope he becomes superman

Jack-El49
02-06-2009, 06:39 AM
I voted for neither option. The boy is confused, that's all. When Lois returns, the drama-rama that was Clana will be in the past and he has his whole future ahead of him - and Lois will make him realize that.

nic25
02-06-2009, 07:40 AM
I voted for neither option. The boy is confused, that's all. When Lois returns, the drama-rama that was Clana will be in the past and he has his whole future ahead of him - and Lois will make him realize that.

:rotfl:Im loving the avi!!!!!!!!


I think Clark is more like Super Young Adult/Man...therefor he doesnt know much of anything write now.Hes still very much learning.So we can think of Lana as practice,the dry run!

quietone
02-06-2009, 07:58 AM
Neither. I think Clark is still trying to figure out who he is which is probably why I have no idea who is. Sometimes I see Superman, other times not so much.

Billy Jor-El
02-06-2009, 08:06 AM
I nearly get sick of Clark. Kal-El is Superman, and Clark is not Kal-El; heck, he said it years back, ".....Kal can fly, Clark can't."

I'll give him credit , though, to hold the no kill rule, and that even with Kryptonite-Lana (didn't we always say Lanite is his true weakness?) he approached her and even kissed her, although we saw the results on his face. Early on if there was a pea-size piece of green K (take Lana's necklace for instance) he'd be crumpled over and helpless. So there's some progress....some.

Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 12:56 PM
He isn't super anything right now. Well maybe super-pathetic...but that wasn't an option. Darn it!

17GABRIELA17
02-06-2009, 01:50 PM
I agree he is super pathetic and also super whinney...I mean he is gonig to cry a river now that Lana is gone? We need determined Clois not whinney Clana.

We will have to wait till he confeses his felling after that you can call him Superman.

Dominicus
02-07-2009, 01:23 AM
you know , you're correct in one thing..

he's NOT superman yet, he's LEARNING..

and he did learn tonight, , OBVIOUSLY..

so.......

as far as "my superman"

if your superman is everyone else's ...then kee pwatching, while he transforms int oSuperman
That's a cop out and pitiful excuse. He's not a baby anymore, living alone, works in metropolis, reporter etc. Technically, he's supposed to be in superman phase now, well actually he should be in training. But all that's been thrown out in SV. So we'll stick to what's been shown in SV history.

To compare to his progressing deeds, and his own rhetoric, this is not learning. Not killing his is own motto, instilled by his family in his youth. He has always lived by his moral code. He has preached it day one on SV and even during requiem.

There is no excuse for it, this is pure relapsing regression of character assassination. He's been through this trauma before, actually more fatal with Alicia; he physically tried to killer her murderer, and Lois stopped him then. He already knows better, that was an actual death. He's been contradicting himself, a hypocrite. Morality is what he daily lectures others on with authority, and some actually have better reasons to kill someone. Example: Oliver wanting to kill lionel for killing his parents, ect. The writers made Clark look petty, arrogant, holier-the-thou, self-righteous, tasteless and abusive with power. The real clark would never act or say something like that over something so petty that can be fixed. If lana was killed, or hurt, it would make more sense, but that crap is not going to fly. He looked extremely weak.

Pantalaimon
02-07-2009, 02:11 AM
Clark's romantic life has nothing to do with him becoming Superman, except when it stands in the way of him saving people. And it didn't. He was able to ask Lana to absorb the kryptonite, thereby destroying their relationship. He could have left the choice to Lana, but he didn't. I'm happy about that.

Him going after Lex revealed a moment of anger and I suppose weakness. There is your excuse. May not be perfect, but an excuse it is. Clark is allowed to be angry. As for him preaching about not killing. In Legion that was about killing innocents. What he said in this episode was something I think he does really believe in. His principles didn't stand up to his anger in this case, but that isn't the end of it. And while we're at it (I know this isn't really an argument, but still), I can't imagine Clark actually pulling Lex's life support or whatever. He may have gone there to do something really bad, but I don't believe this Clark would have actually done it.

celita
02-07-2009, 04:06 AM
Superman is about hope. Clark's romantic life is not Superman. Saving people is.

Come on people, it's completely two different things.

Superman is not one of those people who preachs "do what I say not what I do!", he lives as he claims people should do!. Clark Kent in Smallville says that "not to kill" is his number one rule, then he wants to kill Lex because he spoiled his romantic life. He said Turpin that a true hero does justice even when the bad ones are people whom he loves, then he went to kiss Lana, the same Lana that should be in jail because of torturing, kidnaping, stealing, attempt of murder...

What Clark does in his "romantic life" makes him look like a hypocrath when he's a hero. This man is not Superman, he is barely a regular man. And as a fan of Superman I feel insulted.

dobby
02-07-2009, 04:11 AM
Clark is a super-baby. He progressed in the start of this season but, as usual, Lana makes him lose what little intelligence he has. Everything Lana does is right and morally acceptable to him. Because Clark can't see Lana for who she REALLY is, he isn't yet a man. He is still that stupid high schooler who can't see past a pretty face.

And the fact that he was going to kill Lex, not because he's evil, but because he parted Clark and Lana really makes me think that Smallville's Clark is never going to grow up. A man who is so incredibly obsessed with one woman is pathetic. And when that obsession messes with a man's moral compass, well then you know you need help.

Get help, Clark. Ask Jor-El to give you some balls because Lana has yours.

bigblueplanet
02-07-2009, 05:52 AM
All comments regarding, ‘His romantic life is nothing to do with Superman’, I respectfully disagree.

We can safely agree that Superman is stand for truth and justice, can’t we?
So now, how can I believe this man can stand for truth when they continually show us that he doesn’t mind to be repeatedly lied to, and how can I believe he stands for justice when they continually show us he has no problem at all to be with a woman who has very little ethical boundries, without having adult and honest confrontation of their relationship?

Isn’t this show suppose to show us his journey? But all what we learn after watching 7 and half years of his 'journey' is that Clark Kent never able to glow up emotionally at all? He is now back to square one (='Pilot') romantic life-wise, when he couldn’t get closer to Lana because of her Kryptonite necklace. Only difference now is, Clark knows more or less who she is (?) and Lana is literally a Kryptonite.

Great. What a journey. The message they gave us is that Clark Kent can never move on from his first love with his own free will after he has seen what this woman did. In real life, we DO move on and we’re mere human.

So my direct answer to the question of the thread is, No. he ain’t Superman, nor Superbaby. Maybe he is Captain Marvel. You know, the guy is a superhero. He looks like a man but in fact, is 12 years old boy under his skin? Maybe he’ll shout ‘SHAZAM!’ one of these days and we all wake up from hypnotize, realizing we’ve been watching the Billy Batson show all these years.

Isabel14
02-07-2009, 06:03 AM
I don't think he is superman yet, he has to do a few things to get there.

Dominicus
02-07-2009, 06:20 AM
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Him going after Lex revealed a moment of anger and I suppose weakness. There is your excuse. May not be perfect, but an excuse it is. Clark is allowed to be angry. As for him preaching about not killing. In Legion that was about killing innocents. What he said in this episode was something I think he does really believe in. His principles didn't stand up to his anger in this case, but that isn't the end of it. And while we're at it (I know this isn't really an argument, but still), I can't imagine Clark actually pulling Lex's life support or whatever. He may have gone there to do something really bad, but I don't believe this Clark would have actually done it.That's not an excuse, it a poor explaination. And it's a cop out, period. Clark is superman, same code of ethics and morals. Superman does not contradict himself in regards to murder.vengeance, SV made him a hypocrite.

What he would've done is irrelevent.

The entire point is that Lana stole superman's thunder, his mythos. he's not a boy from smallville anymore and even then his morals never strayed. Now Lana's the one with a conscience, she preaches to Clark about morality, she saves the day, ridiculous. the real superman would've turned her into the police long ago, she has broken so many laws it is not funny, they are tainting truth and justice to a warped childish view. They allowed the Lana character to completely emsaculate him, he is not superman.

And superman would've never allowed it, or give up so easily. Moreover, the circumstances of the death threat were not even close to worthy. Lana is a healthy super freak and no one was in pysical or immediate danger. Face it, they butchered the integrity and dignity of superman. Super man is not weak in those regards, he's empathetic, nothing close to murder in passionate rage. There's a difference in hurting or accidentlly killing someone in a recsue/fight, but to intentionally murder, vengeance, nope, not superman. Besides, this is recycled garbage from previous episodes anyway, Lana gave the exact speech Clark gave to Oliver. SV Clark needs therapy.:rolleyes: He's the biggest baby I ever seen, groveling, nothng super bout him yet. Hopefully he can redeem this tainted image this Lana arc left.

Jocced
02-07-2009, 06:52 AM
seems to me that ya'll don't think he's close to becomming Superman cuz he's not with Lois and that he loves lana... quite funny i thought he was ALOT like superman when he told Lana to go and defuse the bomb knowing what would happen.......



stop bashing poor Clark he had his heart just broken.

Dominicus
02-07-2009, 07:13 AM
seems to me that ya'll don't think he's close to becomming Superman cuz he's not with Lois and that he loves lana... quite funny i thought he was ALOT like superman when he told Lana to go and defuse the bomb knowing what would happen.......



stop bashing poor Clark he had his heart just broken.It seems to me you're not even paying attention to what anyone is saying. This has to do with the legend/mythos of superman's ethics, sense of justice and morals. It has nothing to do with love or lois, simplistic, presumptive, childish statement. It was the writers who commited the character assasination of Clark. It will be critiqued.

The real superman wouldn't have allowed anyone to sacrifice themselves, or steal his thunder. He is the hero. He also would've tried to find another way. And whatever happened on the roof top changed when the threat of death came out SV Clark's mouth. To give up all hope to the whims of a disgruntled Lex. And gave up on everything in-general, such as salvaging his relationship, and find a cure for the kryptonite exposure(which isn't too difficult to find)

The only one mentioning Lois at all is people who watch SV based on relationships, mainly petty Clana shippers. However comic readers go with the traditions, and the mythos. Superman is expected to have such virtue and discipline which made him more heroic because he doesn't allow his feelings to override his sense of justic and morality. He has complete control over himself. He practices what he preaches, :p SV Clark must live up to those standards in order to be called "super"

Jocced
02-07-2009, 07:18 AM
It seems to me you're not even paying attention to what anyone is saying. This has to do with the legend/mythos of superman's ethics, sense of justice and morals. It has nothing to do with love or lois, simplistic, presumptive, childish statement. It was the writers who commited the character assasination of Clark. It will be critiqued.

The real superman wouldn't have allowed anyone to sacrifice themselves, or steal his thunder. He is the hero. He also would've tried to find another way. And whatever happned on the roof top changed when the threat of death came out SV Clark's mouth. The only one mentioning Lois at all is people who watch SV based on relationships, mainly petty Clana shippers. Superman his expected to have such virtue and discipline which made him more heroic because he doesn't allow his feelings to override his sense of justic and morality. He has complete control over himself. He practices what he preaches, :p

well your right i didn't read trough it all but i saw enough post and read between the line of what somepeople were saying ... well

about stealing his thunder i think Lana was the one who was more worried about getting her thunder stolen and afterall Clark and lana are "equals" so i think that has alot to do with him letting her doing it.:cool:

Dominicus
02-07-2009, 07:28 AM
well your right i didn't read trough it all but i saw enough post and read between the line of what somepeople were saying ... well

about stealing his thunder i think Lana was the one who was more worried about getting her thunder stolen and afterall Clark and lana are "equals" so i think that has alot to do with him letting her doing it.:cool:That's the problem, superman is a standalone hero and usually likes it that way, even on SV. But, he became dependent on someone else. So, he doesn't qualify as superman. when he finally puts of that red cape, we'll see if he's ready and if his sense of justice has returned. btw; nice avatar!

DGirlLois4Clark
02-07-2009, 07:40 AM
Super cry baby for now. Hopefully Lois will help him grow;)

Tatiana
02-07-2009, 07:43 AM
I think he is close to being Superman, he's just superClark right now with still a lot of flaws, and well Lana was always his weakness, now she really is his greatest weakness. I did think it was wrong of him to want to kill Lex, as a human I understand that reaction, he was letting his human instincts run him there, get the best of him. He really needs to listen to his own advice more often

Coyote
02-07-2009, 07:56 AM
"Wah! He made me break up with my girlfriend! I'm gonna kill him!" Clark apparently doesn't even notice that Lex is a menace to the world. That's not the problem for Baby Clark. It's all about him and his silly high school romance. This stupid selfish infant will never man up and turn into Superman.

Night_Hawk90
02-07-2009, 09:13 AM
superman.

SGuthrie27
02-07-2009, 03:38 PM
He was SO Superman for the first... umm... 11 episodes of this season. Really, it was the best progression to his ultimate destiny that I've ever seen. Episodes 12-14, however, DEFINITELY made him look like a Superbaby.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

elise
02-07-2009, 05:16 PM
He was SO Superman for the first... umm... 11 episodes of this season. Really, it was the best progression to his ultimate destiny that I've ever seen. Episodes 12-14, however, DEFINITELY made him look like a Superbaby.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--


Exactly was I was going to say

Sunny8
02-07-2009, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Dresden
Lana Lang [in the comics] simply can't forget her high school crush, more than likely because her life is crumbling (bad marriage, etc), and so she hangs onto the past with Clark labeling him as the one that got a way.


Except for the bad marriage, isn't this SVClark Kent? They gave SVClark Kent Lana's personality and made SVLana Lang like comic book Clark Kent. In the comics, Clark Kent never pined for Lana, Lana pined for him. How awful to do that with Superman. No wonder he can't come to fruition.

Griffin
02-08-2009, 01:36 PM
It seems whenever Lana comes around Clark becomes Superbaby. The plot line was going great until Lana showed up again. No offense to KK but the way the writers are writing her character is down right frustrating.

I liked how this season started off, Clark had more balls. He seemed to be becoming Superman. Then Lana shows up and it's whiny Clark who doesn't want to use his abilities to save the world, he wants to be with Lana.:rolleyes:

I'm glad Lana is gone.:D

bigblueplanet
02-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Except for the bad marriage, isn't this SVClark Kent? They gave SVClark Kent Lana's personality and made SVLana Lang like comic book Clark Kent. In the comics, Clark Kent never pined for Lana, Lana pined for him. How awful to do that with Superman. No wonder he can't come to fruition.


I agree. And this is one of the *new interpretations* of SV which irritates me to no end.

luthorian
02-08-2009, 02:15 PM
"Wah! He made me break up with my girlfriend! I'm gonna kill him!" Clark apparently doesn't even notice that Lex is a menace to the world.

:rotfl: This is hilarious but so true.

RingzTerritory
02-09-2009, 09:11 AM
Superman has nothing to do with Clark's romantic life.

It does if he's willing to put his values and morals aside and kill for some twisted slut named lana.

bigblueplanet
02-09-2009, 09:24 AM
It does if he's willing to put his values and morals aside and kill for some twisted slut named lana.

Agreed.

Especially just a couple of weeks ago, he made a historical moment for inspiring Legion to re-write their code. What was that? Oh yeah. "Prevent killing at any cost."

zanaamen
02-09-2009, 09:35 AM
I think he is SuperRomeo for juliet (Lana)

LoveHurts38
02-09-2009, 09:37 AM
SuperBaby ever since "she" showed up**shakes head**

mr lane
02-09-2009, 09:41 AM
"Wah! He made me break up with my girlfriend! I'm gonna kill him!" Clark apparently doesn't even notice that Lex is a menace to the world. That's not the problem for Baby Clark. It's all about him and his silly high school romance. This stupid selfish infant will never man up and turn into Superman.

ITA

in the beginning of the episode where he goes into Oliver's Jet and finds Chloe researching the toyman behind Clark's back he gives Chloe this big speech about not killing a person no matter what Chloe tells him that Clark knows Lex is evil and what he's capable of but then Clark has to slap her in the face by telling her he could have killed her while she was infected by Brainiac and had power to take over the world. Even though the difference is that Chloe was infected and Lex isn't its just who he is. So then Chloe crumbles on Clark

Only after Lex makes it impossible for Clark and Lana to be together does he want to kill lex

which is so high school

escout
02-09-2009, 11:09 AM
Finally after watching Clark whine and wimper for 8 years, do I finallysee hope that he is moving on to become The Man of Steel that he is suppose to be. Up until now he hasn't shown much chance of ever becoming anyone other than another individual who would end up in a state hospital, receiving medication to help him deal with all the mistakes and losses in his life. But in the last few episodes, I am starting to see some backbone in this young man and I feel that there is a ray of hope. His decision not to let the Legionaires kill Chloe is one example. Another was to save the people in The DP Building by having Lana absorb the Kryptonite, especially when he knew what it would cost him. Our boy is growing up Martha.

Having followed Superman/Boy for over 40 years and knowing the Mythos very well, I have been very frustrated with his decisions and way of responding to his life situations, but now, I am happy to say that I see Clark finally beginning to grow up. So I disagree, he is becoming Superman.

P.S. I am mature and secure enough not to argue or fight with people who have different opinions than my own. so if you have something bad to say or to reply with. Keep it to yourself...I won't see it. :)

bigblueplanet
02-12-2009, 09:31 AM
I ‘m hoping he’ll be known as ‘Red and Blue Blur’.


I don’t know if I should feel excited or be dreadful about the idea of hearing THE name.
At this moment, I wouldn’t want to hear the word ‘Superman’ in this show. :\
I don’t think this Clark Kent deserves the name. Not yet.

Tinyeppy
02-12-2009, 03:44 PM
I ‘m hoping he’ll be known as ‘Red and Blue Blur’.


I don’t know if I should feel excited or be dreadful about the idea of hearing THE name.
At this moment, I wouldn’t want to hear the word ‘Superman’ in this show. :\
I don’t think this Clark Kent deserves the name. Not yet.


I feel you pain. I don't see CK as the Superman of the comics he's just not nor will he ever be on SV.

I don't like his behavior I'm tired of a Lana focus, I want a normal life, needs to be reminded by Lana for god sake about the people of earth. WTF.

This isn't my Hero.

He's at times is Super like but most of the time he's Superbaby b/c he forgets all the morals he has. The Man of Steel doesn't need remaining & doesn't forget what he love & respects the people of planet Earth.

CK is late in his training according to the myth b/c Lana is still around.

He's 22yrs old he should be in training and broke it off with Lana after HS.

This is a completely different version of Superman or Superboy

the highlander
02-12-2009, 04:04 PM
You got it there... He is just 22 years old......

meeter
02-16-2009, 02:46 PM
how is Clark a superbaby?if I had just lost the one love of my life due to some mad mans ability to tear us apart forever,human instinct would want me to go and exact some revenge on the person.Clarks only downfall is that he has superhuman abilities to go along with those feelings so he has to be more careful in his actions.he is indeed Superman and not Superbot!


wellsaid.

RaniaLovesClois
07-07-2009, 04:46 AM
He was SO Superman for the first... umm... 11 episodes of this season. Really, it was the best progression to his ultimate destiny that I've ever seen. Episodes 12-14, however, DEFINITELY made him look like a Superbaby.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Agreed

BigT
01-31-2010, 11:33 AM
Oh definitely Superbaby! Superman is about hope, not despair. Since when was the path a tragic love story?

Exactly! Well it seems that Clark has finally learned his lesson and I hope it stays that way.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----


Agreed.

Especially just a couple of weeks ago, he made a historical moment for inspiring Legion to re-write their code. What was that? Oh yeah. "Prevent killing at any cost."

Yeah. It seems that Lana always does an excellent job at bringing out the hypocrite in Clark Kent. :p

----- Added 12 Minutes later -----


These last 4 episodes were the most pathetic depiction of Clark Kent in 8 seasons! I still can't believe it was a "real" Smallville story line. Will it still turn out to be somebody's dream/nightmare?

Oh I wish, pbody!


I wish. ;)