Kryptonite Ring???

[AndiGirl]

I dont know if I missed something...but what was the deal with Ollie and the Kryptonite ring at the end?? I honestly think somethings wrong with Ollie..... :\

[kyl-el]

I agree. He had a twisted look on his face as if they were going to turn him evil or something.

[AndiGirl]

I honestly think he may be working for Lex...
it's the only thing that would make sense at this point. :\

[6-Super-Man -5]

Has to be a twist...
Lex's return, early? I hope. :)

[moviefan2k4]

I honestly think somethings wrong with Ollie..... :\There's a lot of things wrong with Oliver. To hell with issues; this boy has subscriptions.

[theotherJane]

Somehow they've managed to turn everyone into a killer this season.

Chloe then Tess, then Ollie.

[Kryptonyt]

Maybe before Lex's body was destroyed, he transferred his consciousness into Ollie's body? That's why when Ollie was looking at the picture of Lex at the end, he was actually looking at himself... just a crazy thought. I mean, they can't "really" do away with Lex.

[Krypton935]

i thinkit was just to bring back the past and show that ollie really killed him. lex probably had the ring with him and had it on in case clark tried to eat him jk but in case clark came and then ollie just took it yeah

[ClarkyBoy14]

I don't know, but I'm not too happy with Ollie right now. :\

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, Ollie was a bit crazy in this episode... :\

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah, Ollie was a bit crazy in this episode... :\

I know.

At least they didn't forget about Ollie's shooting in "Bride" and Chloe's killing in "Identity." For a while, I thought they were going to just drop those things.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I know.

At least they didn't forget about Ollie's shooting in "Bride" and Chloe's killing in "Identity." For a while, I thought they were going to just drop those things.

Yeah, glad they did that. :)

[Bre723]

I miss season 6 ollie =(

[Skaterpen357]

There's a lot of things wrong with Oliver. To hell with issues; this boy has subscriptions.
:lol: Nice...something Chloe might say. You come up with that?

Seriously, though, that was what did it for me...Clana, I can kind of handle. But TPTB just perverted two of my favorite superheroes in one fell swoop. Supes and GA are pretty much killers. And I am including Clark. :(

[green_arrow_girl358]

makes me sad but i def think that the ring is for protection. clark's been on ollie's case a lot this season, whats to say he doesn't go crazy and almost take ollie out. GA needs some kind of protection.

this would also work nicely with a red K centric episode

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Yeah...now they have to make Ollie look bad so Clark looks good, give me a break!

[WalterK]

Oliver is not crazy. The ring was to show that Lex really is dead, this time. Oliver was also reflecting on what he had done to protect Clark.

Clark is an idealist, and believes there is always another way.

Oliver does not share Clark's degree of idealism. Neither does Chloe.

Oliver and Chloe are correct in thinking that there is not always another way. If Oliver and Chloe shared Clark's idealism, then Lex would pretty quickly kill Clark. As an idealist, Clark would rather die than have his friends commit murder to protect him.

Ergo, Clark's idealism can only survive as long his friends do not entirely share it.

[Lilah]

Yeah but it goes back on what Ollie, Clark and John talked about in the hospital... about that brotherhood... its like where can they go from here?

But I'll tell you one thing, Smallville officially hit rock bottom tonight, so hopefully they can only go up from here...!

[Theshadow129x]

nice comic book touch. reminded me of the president Lex storyline that came around in 2000. turned out batman made the kryptonite ring though. still nice touch.

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Oliver is not crazy. The ring was to show that Lex really is dead, this time. Oliver was also reflecting on what he had done to protect Clark.

Clark is an idealist, and believes there is always another way.

Oliver does not share Clark's degree of idealism. Neither does Chloe.

Oliver and Chloe are correct in thinking that there is not always another way. If Oliver and Chloe shared Clark's idealism, then Lex would pretty quickly kill Clark. As an idealist, Clark would rather die than have his friends commit murder to protect him.

Ergo, Clark's idealism can only survive as long his friends do not entirely share it.

nice summary! like i said in another thread not every hero is out to be a saint like Clark. Mos think that if a villain is bad then its a good thing and its one less evil creep in the world. Its sometimes Clark's idealism that puts him and others around him in danger and sometimes other heroes just dont understand his logic behind him being the hero that he is.

[Jack-El49]

Okay, so Lex tried to kill Ollie and ended up killing/hurting a lot of people in the process. Lex is going to try to kill Clark at some point (many points) in the future. Lex is evil incarnate.

So Ollie "kills" Lex and he's a bad guy for doing it? That's crazy. Did trying to kill Hitler make Von Schaffenburg a bad guy? Does trying to kill Bin Laden make those in pursuit of him bad guys?

Evil must be dealt with - you don't appease it, you don't negotiate with it. You end it. It's just that simple. Ollie is not a bad guy for wanting to kill Lex, even though he didn't accomplish it.

[AndiGirl]

Oliver is not crazy. The ring was to show that Lex really is dead, this time. Oliver was also reflecting on what he had done to protect Clark.

Clark is an idealist, and believes there is always another way.

Oliver does not share Clark's degree of idealism. Neither does Chloe.

Oliver and Chloe are correct in thinking that there is not always another way. If Oliver and Chloe shared Clark's idealism, then Lex would pretty quickly kill Clark. As an idealist, Clark would rather die than have his friends commit murder to protect him.

Ergo, Clark's idealism can only survive as long his friends do not entirely share it.

You know...I've thought about it, and I think I agree.
Clark see's things very black and white...where Ollie and Chloe can see the shades of gray. I'm just worried the writers are trying to make him appear "bad" when infact he only has a different method then clark...and there's nothing wrong with that.

I still think Ollie has some secrets he's keeping...based off the look he gave in his last scene. :\

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Okay, so Lex tried to kill Ollie and ended up killing/hurting a lot of people in the process. Lex is going to try to kill Clark at some point (many points) in the future. Lex is evil incarnate.

So Ollie "kills" Lex and he's a bad guy for doing it? That's crazy. Did trying to kill Hitler make Von Schaffenburg a bad guy? Does trying to kill Bin Laden make those in pursuit of him bad guys?

Evil must be dealt with - you don't appease it, you don't negotiate with it. You end it. It's just that simple. Ollie is not a bad guy for wanting to kill Lex, even though he didn't accomplish it.

Once again...ITA Jack!
I just dont understand why the WRITERS are trying to make him look bad. It was obvious in tonights episode that there were two sides being formed...Clark/Lana and Chloe/Ollie. They made it seem like only one side could be right. Especially when they brought up Chloe killing a man before. Not painting a very good picture for the duo. :\

[mr lane]

^^^

its easy for clark to see black and white because of his powers

he has abilities that Ollie doesn't have

If clark were to kill it would make him look like he was on a power surge just trying to get rid of anything that threatens hims or is in competition with him

if ollie kills

hes just being human

[ClarksGal]

I took it that Ollie was thinking about what he had done, and that he was kind of torn about it. I took the ring as confirmation that he had really killed Lex. Or at least that he thought he did. :)

[unfocused]

My thoughts are that it will be revealed that Oliver took the ring from Lex, when finding him in the truck. Lex has worn a Kryptonite ring with him in the comics, it eventually messed up his hand. That is why, when we see Lex as President, he wears a black glove. He wore that glove in the comics after his hand messed up from the ring.

So I think Oliver took that ring from Lex. And in a future episode, this is how Clark finds out that Oliver killed Lex.

But, after so, I think we will learn that Lex is still alive, and it was a clone of Lex that died. Just like how Lana faked her own death with a clone made by Lex.

[onebighottie]

I saw it too. I think it belongs to Lex and was found in after the explosion. In the comics Lex wears a ring made of Kryptonie to protect himself from Superman.

[mr lane]

i wonder if it could have been the ring Lex wore in ONYX

[AndiGirl]

Things are black and white. Life and death. Good and evil. Up and down. Left and right.

'Shades of gray' come from the inability to accept in absolutist fashion what is right and what is wrong.

Is murder/killing/taking a life always wrong? IMO, yes. Mitigating reasons can explain it away, dismiss it, rationalize it, excuse it, whatever... it was/is still morally wrong.

The problem is that not everyone agrees to see in 'black or white', which goes back to my last post.

Yep...I'm a shade of gray person. Sorry. ;)

[gx25236]

Things are black and white. Life and death. Good and evil. Up and down. Left and right.

'Shades of gray' come from the inability to accept in absolutist fashion what is right and what is wrong.

Is murder/killing/taking a life always wrong? IMO, yes. Mitigating reasons can explain it away, dismiss it, rationalize it, excuse it, whatever... it was/is still morally wrong.

The problem is that not everyone agrees to see in 'black or white', which goes back to my last post.

If Country X/Country Y decided to invade Country Z and kill all its inhabitants do you believe that Country Z 's soldiers would be evil if they used lethal weapons against the invaders?

[unfocused]

I'm sure you can PM gx25236 your answer :)

[MAN-of-STEEL]

Well I'm just waitng for Oliver to say..."MY PRECIOUS.."

[gx25236]

Political debates are disallowed in this forum, I believe. Otherwise, I'd answer the question.

I removed the names of the countries to make the question less political.

[AndiGirl]

I'm sure you can PM gx25236 your answer :)

:rotfl:

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Well I'm just waitng for Oliver to say..."MY PRECIOUS.."

But he's so much more attractive them Gollum (I know I probably didnt spell that right at all!) :p

[MAN-of-STEEL]

:rotfl:

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But he's so much more attractive them Gollum (I know I probably didnt spell that right at all!) :p

The first thing that came to mind when he was staring at the ring was Lord of the Rings. I was trying to shift the conversation from political issues.:lol:

[AndiGirl]

The first thing that came to mind when he was staring at the ring was Lord of the Rings. I was trying to shift the conversation from political issues.:lol:

He did have a gleam in his eye....hmmm...
Oh..Whoops!!

Yes....Gollum, yep yep...I see it now. ;)

[Newguy43]

Lex entered Ollies mind and is controlling his actions...no maybe he keeps it around to jab clark l. Doesn't batman carry kryptonite in his belt in case superman goes buckwild

[kaam]

I wonder if they will make Ollie go as far as using that Kryptonite ring against Clark!! :mad:

[alejandrita439]

maybe now theres the theory...

Oliver = Lex :lol::lol::lol:

well i think that lex is not dead.... maybe it was a clone, like lana's clone in "Phantom" :)

[sari_chem]

There's a lot of things wrong with Oliver. To hell with issues; this boy has subscriptions.

lol...that's hilarious!

[ohmyfreakingodhe'shot!]

I'd quite like to be in some quiet place with just Clark n Ollie for company...what a night that wud be!

[ClumsyGRL]

i don't think ollie kept that ring to use against clark in the future!!i think he kept it because it belonged to lex, his biggest enemy, wich he "thinks" he destroyed... so it was more like a litle souvenir.

[Minela]

Ollie a.k.a. Lex in disguise.