They Cheapened Clois!!!

[nic25]

Yes that would be in bad taste.Just think if it were to happen to you.But look how they dragged on Clana!? Im sure they drag on Clois as well,so it will be sometime b4 we see them anywhere near together.And,well... if this is the last season then we are bascially screwed!

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Yes that would be in bad taste.Just think if it were to happen to you.But look how they dragged on Clana!? Im sure they drag on Clois as well,so it will be sometime b4 we see them anywhere near together.And,well... if this is the last season then we are bascially screwed!


Yeah pretty much screwed...I'm sure,even if it's not the last season. WTH are they going to do in the 9th season? This is not only about Clois and tv time it's about the dignity of someone who is supposed to be a super hero. I'm sorry if I'm being pessimistic guys.:\

[Rift]

As I stated in another thread, Lois would never have a chance of surplanting the Lana that the writers of the show have now created..but we all know this "send off" will be just that--and Clark will now act as if Lana never existed and focus on Lois. Ridiculous, implausible, and in bad taste.

Lois and Clark deserve a cleaner start.

[davidbrenton]

I don't care. I want him and Lois together. Bad taste or not.

[RED_SUN]

We know though that what Clark and Lois do eventually feel for one another makes his love for Lana seem far smaller than his love for Lois.

We will probably never see Lois and Clarks relationship come to that point in Smallville anyway but only get a sense that it will and does.

[sithius]

There's me thinking Lois is Superman's soulmate. Silly me. I guess the PS3 know better. Lana is his soulmate. If Lana comes back one day without the kryptonite, Clark will no doubt accept her over Lois.

What a good storyline. Very true to the canon and it shows a lot of respect to the character of Clark Kent.

[supes0]

Absolutely. Clark should not be looking at anybody else.

[davidbrenton]

We know though that what Clark and Lois do eventually feel for one another makes his love for Lana seem far smaller than his love for Lois.

We will probably never see Lois and Clarks relationship come to that point in Smallville anyway but only get a sense that it will and does.

I am dreading that reality. I want to see it.

[Demien]

No, Lois returns, Clark forgets Lana ever existed, sounds good to me!what is wrong with you people where did you read about Clark and Lana...in what Comic book or in which movie or TVshow god damn you are thinking wrongly..Lois Lane is the only love of superman..yes inth beggining there could be something beween them but in the end it should end like a normal Superman's story

[DontCha]

and Lois Lane^^ cant forget her, even though Ps3 did

[sithius]

and Lois Lane^^ cant forget her, even though Ps3 did

I disagree. They showed her to be a compassionate woman, looking after poor Jimmy as his wife so kindly sat around drinking coffee. I think the writing for this episode was fantastic. If I watch Power and Requiem in a row, then I am astonished. I would say this is better than sitting through The Dark Knight even. It really is a show where you can learn a lot of life lessons. I hope Lana goes to Gotham and teaches Bruce Wayne a few things about morality too.

I look forward to the day that she comes back to the Justice League when it is fully formed and co-leads it with Superman. They can be the Superduo! Lana of course will be the real leader though.

Ok I need to calm down. *breathes*

[DontCha]

but they've cheapened her IMO, they've made her look unworthy of clark and then Erica even saying in that CTV interview that Lois has to earn clark's love..what BS are PS3 feeding that woman? Clark has to earn her love now..not the other way around. Poor Erica, Poor Lois.

[clarkcasas]

I think he moves on, and he realizes he loves Lois, as much as i hate to admit it....

But it has to be that way, he will realize that Lois is the love of his life and Lana is just his first love. Isn't it like that in the comics, i mean lana was his first love then he moves to metropolis and falls for Lois???
I read somewhere that as of now Lana and Clark aren't even speaking in the comics there's a lot of tension between those two...

As much as i love CLANA, i have to admit that Lois is Clark's future and i think that the show will show us that CLOIS!

[RED_SUN]

Why? Is it impossible that Clark couldnt find a greater love for Lois than he had with Lana?

It isnt.

[costas22]

It's not impossible RED SUN.It's just that the order and the manner in which they have handled Clana and Clois has created a big mess.Clana should have been over with before Clois started.Ever since i watched the Requiem trailer i was afraid about this Clana conclusion.Seeing Clark at the end of Requiem does anyone think he even knows who Lois is?I think that for an amount of time they have to keep him off the romance stories.

[Dyanara]

According to the Smallville writers Lois is just convinient as opposed to Lana who he has loved all his life and would be with if it wouldn't kill him. I am now against CLois on this show.

[Superman's_Wife]

Hasn't this been discussed so many times before over the past couple of weeks? Why is it so out of the realm of possibility for people to accept that a person can move on from their first love, regardless of how much was put into it?

The problem here for people is not whether Clark can move on, it's how he can move on in so little time.

But this isn't a real concern to me because I simply do not accept the Lana Lang arc that we were forced to watch. It was unbelievable in so many ways. It made no sense and portrayed all characters in such an OOC light.

Regarding the whole second choice concept. Can we get over that too? It's already been pointed out numerous times that in so many incarnations of Superman, Clark Kent leaves someone behind because of circumstances other than his own choosing. In the comics there was Lori Lemaris. In Smallville there was Alicia Baker.

The world got in the way and ended these romances. Does that mean everyone after is a second choice? No. In the end, a true love will survive and last.

[Alania]

There's me thinking Lois is Superman's soulmate. Silly me. I guess the PS3 know better. Lana is his soulmate. If Lana comes back one day without the kryptonite, Clark will no doubt accept her over Lois.

.

That is not true. Clark has never had a love relationship with Lois to even tell which one is better. Given the spoilers, he's about to start seeing Lois as a potential lover now, when she comes back. Lana chose to be "enhanced" in order to try a life with Clark, cause she tought that just being herself, a simple human, wasn't enough. Sounds to me like lack of self-esteem, inferiority complex. She thinks she can't handle Clark just by being a normal person. Whereas Lois is just Lois, like he said in Bulletproof, that bold and brave human being. She's got what it takes to share a life with a guy who's destined to far more things in life than just date and work.

[Iluvgreen]

Um. If Lana comes back without her kryptonite next season (here's me hoping) than Clark will not go with her, because by then he'd be in love with Lois.

[sithius]

Hasn't this been discussed so many times before over the past couple of weeks? Why is it so out of the realm of possibility for people to accept that a person can move on from their first love, regardless of how much was put into it?


To quote Clark: 'Seeing Lana again... it's like she never left. You just can't stop loving someone, you know that right?'

If mighty Lana came back to Metropolis when Clark was donning the tights (laughable in itself tbh considering his current character) he will no doubt feel the same. It's like she's never left. 'Sorry Lois, I love Lana more. She only left because of the kryptonite. Lolz, maybe you can go out with Jimmy instead or something, bye'.

[RED_SUN]

Clana should have been over with before Clois started.

That i agree on, but thats Hollywood for you!

[Superman's_Wife]

According to the Smallville writers Lois is just convinient as opposed to Lana who he has loved all his life and would be with if it wouldn't kill him. I am now against CLois on this show.

You are wrong.

Up to this point there has been *no* romantic clois.

Yes, Lois Lane is in love with Clark Kent. And yes, Clark Kent has shown some signs of feelings for Lois Lane, but none of it has been developed.

We are not talking here about Clark Kent dating Lois Lane and then leaving her for Lana Lang. They almost kissed, yes, but that moment was going to be the spark in their relationship that was interrupted.

For people to say that clois has been cheapened or that clois is now impossible, seems to be not only premature but very dramatic.

PS3 may have screwed up royally by presenting such a dramatic and not at all believable with a continuation of Clana but that didn't do anything to clois. Fans got upset because they are invested in the romance that they already know about.

In Smallville, neither Clark Kent or Lois Lane have yet felt the power of their true love. Right now Clois is in its infant stage. Give it time to mature and blossom.

My hope right now is for a season 9. If there is one, I am confident that clois will get the proper time and attention. If there is not a season 9, clois will still look possible to me but it will not have had the proper development.

I am not ready to accept a world where Lois Lane is not end game for Clark Kent. That to me just doesn't exist and never will exist.

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I think he moves on, and he realizes he loves Lois, as much as i hate to admit it....

But it has to be that way, he will realize that Lois is the love of his life and Lana is just his first love. Isn't it like that in the comics, i mean lana was his first love then he moves to metropolis and falls for Lois???
I read somewhere that as of now Lana and Clark aren't even speaking in the comics there's a lot of tension between those two...

As much as i love CLANA, i have to admit that Lois is Clark's future and i think that the show will show us that CLOIS!

Yes, you are right. As for the comics, it is not that Lana Lang and Clark Kent are not speaking. The problem is that they are in two very different stages of their lives. Clark Kent has finally reached self-actualization. He has accepted who he is and what he can do for mankind. He has mentioned it time and time again through many comics that he would not give up being Superman for the world. He is asked why he saves lives and he answer, "Because I can, and I would never change that." He has also finally found a mature and true adult love that does not hinder who he is, "For whatever reason Lois loves me, the fact is that I have finally found the person in my life who makes me proud to be a man."

So Clark Kent is finally Superman. There are no two personality. There is finally just one man.

On the other hand, Lana Lang at this point has just divorced Pete Ross. She is a single mother now and weary of her future. Thus she has been portrayed as clinging onto the past. What has enraged fans in the recent years is her attempt to come between Clark Kent and Lois Lane when they are now married. Although Lana Lang expresses on many occasions that she would never come between Clark and Lois the fact remains that she has done just that. She has spoken ill of Lois and her love for Clark. She has attempted to cast a shadow of doubt in him in order have him back in her life romantically.

As much as Clark Kent loves Lana Lang, his love for her is now solidified in a platonic level. He cannot fathom ever loving anyone the way he loves his wife.

So right now the characters in the comics are in two very different places. However, I look forward to some resolution there too. I hope that Lana Lang visits Clark Kent in the future and that when she does she is an independent, fully capable woman that is no longer interested in breaking up a marriage that is clearly destined.

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To quote Clark: 'Seeing Lana again... it's like she never left. You just can't stop loving someone, you know that right?'

If mighty Lana came back to Metropolis when Clark was donning the tights (laughable in itself tbh considering his current character) he will no doubt feel the same. It's like she's never left. 'Sorry Lois, I love Lana more. She only left because of the kryptonite. Lolz, maybe you can go out with Jimmy instead or something, bye'.

If this statement is true that means that we are all forever bound by the words of the past. A person can never say things that later turn out to be untrue. I remember being in high school with my date at the prom and saying to my friends, "This is it. I will never find someone that I love more than him. It will be impossible." I married my high school boyfriend and ended up with him for six years. We then divorced and three years later I am in a new relationship and I have never felt the kind of intense love that I do now. Not to mention that I am now a mother (of a five month old baby girl!) and thus my new love has given me something that my previous love never did.

To bind Clark Kent to these words is a mistake.

At this point he has no idea what the future holds for him. He has no idea what kind of love can truly exist between a man and a woman. He will as soon as he opens his eyes and his heart to Lois Lane. :)


Not to mention the fact that he states these words not with certainty and conviction, but with doubt. He asks, right? to Chloe as though he needs reassurance. So, no, I wouldn't hold so much in these few words. Not when we all know the future is waiting!

[Dyanara]

Yes it would be in bad taste, it would piss me off too no end. Now not only does Clark piss on Lois in Bride but as soon as Lois returns he forgets the crap he just went through with Lana? I don't think so, both of these girls need to find a real man and leave Clark to play with his telescope in the barn.

[myankskent]

No, Lois returns, Clark forgets Lana ever existed, sounds good to me!what is wrong with you people where did you read about Clark and Lana...in what Comic book or in which movie or TVshow god damn you are thinking wrongly


You make it sound like if Clark Kent decides to kill every single person in Metropolis, it's all good because in the comic books, he's Superman. I'm sorry, but I don't think that way. This series has made it pretty clear that they are not following the comic books, which is why Clark has loved Lana for 7 and a half years and got back together with her yet again in season 8 only to be forced to breakup with her.

[Demien]

and that makes no sense..what for they brought her back?...they just...I don't know...I don't like anymore Movies and TVshows about Comic Books heroes because they are making everything as they like :-s......it's wrong for me personally I'm not saying that it should be wrong for everyone it's just my opinnion

[Demien]

it doesn't sound good to be second but what we can do ))..they should be together)

[Superman's_Wife]

it doesn't sound good to be second but what we can do ))..they should be together)

Again, this whole being second thing makes no sense. That means that anyone who has ever entered a new relationship with a person who has loved someone before them will also be second.

Clark Kent had Alicia Baker die on him. Was Lana Lang then second?

Clark Kent had Lori Lemaris leave him. Was Lois Lane then second?

We all need to get past this whole second thing because it doesn't make any sense. Not in Smallville and not in the real world.

[Superman's_Wife]

It was bad taste to have such an OOC arc between Lana and Clark this season. That was bad taste. That was not believable. The way this season has been set up, it is very much in character for Clark Kent to pursue Lois Lane.

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You make it sound like if Clark Kent decides to kill every single person in Metropolis, it's all good because in the comic books, he's Superman. I'm sorry, but I don't think that way. This series has made it pretty clear that they are not following the comic books, which is why Clark has loved Lana for 7 and a half years and got back together with her yet again in season 8 only to be forced to breakup with her.

Correction. The series *will* tie into the comics. This has been known since day one. Three things that cannot change in Smallville or any other universe (as sanctioned by DC): Lex Luthor will turn evil. Clark Kent will become Superman. And....wait for it....wait for it....Clark Kent and Lois Lane will end up together.

As horrible as PS3 make the actual journey, the three things above can *never* change. Not even in Smallville. :)

This is why Lana Lang has never phased me. No matter what, I know that she cannot end up with Clark Kent. It has never happened and it will never happen.

[Demien]

I'm not saying that it makes any sense I just said that it's just sounds not good.....I don't give a crap if I'm the second to someone....and I defenitelly don't give a crap if someone will be second in a TVshow ;):P

[Cogito17]

Again, this whole being second thing makes no sense. That means that anyone who has ever entered a new relationship with a person who has loved someone before them will also be second.

Clark Kent had Alicia Baker die on him. Was Lana Lang then second?

Clark Kent had Lori Lemaris leave him. Was Lois Lane then second?

We all need to get past this whole second thing because it doesn't make any sense. Not in Smallville and not in the real world.

This.

Everytime one person is dumped by or forced apart from their significant other, are they now required to go back and clearly state to them that their relationship is over and they have moved on before they can have a valid relationship with another person?

[Vala]

Yes.

[sithius]

Again, this whole being second thing makes no sense. That means that anyone who has ever entered a new relationship with a person who has loved someone before them will also be second.

Clark Kent had Alicia Baker die on him. Was Lana Lang then second?

Clark Kent had Lori Lemaris leave him. Was Lois Lane then second?

We all need to get past this whole second thing because it doesn't make any sense. Not in Smallville and not in the real world.


I presume your first relationship didn't end because he had kryptonite in his skin? :rotfl:

If they had ended the relationship on an emotional agreement then that would have been totally fine. The fact that a physical barrier is preventing them from being together is like Romeo and Juliet's families preventing them from truly being together. It sucks.

[Superman's_Wife]

I presume your first relationship didn't end because he had kryptonite in his skin?
My relationship also didn't end because:

1) My partner died (as with Alicia Baker)
2) My partner was a mermaid (as with Lori Lemaris)

So what exactly is your point? Endings come through many ways. Just because this ending was pathetic doesn't mean it wasn't a solid ending. :)

Btw, you can save the sarcasm because it doesn't help your case at all. Rationality is on my side on this one.

[gigatron]

Clark would have chosen Lana over Alicia or Lori any day of the week of the year if he had the choice. Clark dropped lois like a bad habit the moment lana came back, what makes u think he wouldn't do it again in a hear beat later on? The ONLY way I can see clark developing into the superman he is meant to b is if lana does come back later on, unpowered, but clark chooses to be with lois instead. Thats the only possible real closure u can have with lana becomming his "real soulmate" instead of lana

[Superman's_Wife]

This.

Everytime one person is dumped by or forced apart from their significant other, are they now required to go back and clearly state to them that their relationship is over and they have moved on before they can have a valid relationship with another person?

Exactly!

I don't understand why it makes people proud or happy that Lana and Clark's relationship ended because of this kryptonite idea. It is just such a silly and ridiculous ending to that relationship.

[sithius]

My relationship also didn't end because:

1) My partner died (as with Alicia Baker)
2) My partner was a mermaid (as with Lori Lemaris)

So what exactly is your point? Endings come through many ways. Just because this ending was pathetic doesn't mean it wasn't a solid ending. :)


Btw, you can save the sarcasm because it doesn't help your case at all. Rationality is on my side on this one.

Death means they can't come back. So it's acceptable to move on. Kryptonite doesn't mean Lana is dead, so Clark can still remain in love with her. Also, if Lana turned into a mermaid I would say the same thing.

It's pretty clear that the PS3 designed Lana to be his soulmate. You only need to look at how it's scripted to realize that.

[smallvillerocks45]

Who said anything about soul mates? Clark and Lana just love each other (a lot), but that doesn't mean that Clark can't still move on.

[tonnmiister]

im sick of all the lana haters here, Clark had FEELINGS for Lois, starting from this season, Clark LOVES Lana, end of

[Superman's_Wife]

Clark would have chosen Lana over Alicia or Lori any day of the week of the year if he had the choice. Clark dropped lois like a bad habit the moment lana came back, what makes u think he wouldn't do it again in a hear beat later on? The ONLY way I can see clark developing into the superman he is meant to b is if lana does come back later on, unpowered, but clark chooses to be with lois instead. Thats the only possible real closure u can have with lana becomming his "real soulmate" instead of lana

How could Clark drop Lois when their romance hadn't even started? They were about to kiss, about to is the key phrase here.

Also, your assumption that Clark Kent would have left Alicia Baker and Lori Lemaris for Lana Lang is just that. An assumption. :)

In Smallville, Clark Kent *does* leave Lana Lang for Alica Baker.
In the comics, Clark Kent *does* leave Lana Lang for Lori Lemaris.

So, sorry but Lana Lang has never be the end all for Clark Kent.

[gigatron]

In Smallville, Clark Kent *does* leave Lana Lang for Alica Baker.
Only coz lana's not willing at the time lol

[Dyanara]

You say I'm wrong like it's a fact. Your opinion is that nothng bad has happened on this show with the canon relationship between Clark and Lois, I disagree that's the end of it. This show has written it that if Lana showed up again he would drop Lois again just like he did before.

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Only coz lana's not willing at the time lol

Duh, doesn't she have a man herself at that time?

[Iluvgreen]

Lois will never be second! You'll see.

[Superman's_Wife]

Death means they can't come back. So it's acceptable to move on. Kryptonite doesn't mean Lana is dead, so Clark can still remain in love with her. Also, if Lana turned into a mermaid I would say the same thing.

It's pretty clear that the PS3 designed Lana to be his soulmate. You only need to look at how it's scripted to realize that.

There is no rulebook on when it is acceptable for someone to move on. So I don't know where you are getting this notion that if a person dies its reasonable for someone to move on but if death doesn't happen then moving on cannot happen either.

As for PS3 making Lana Lang Clark Kent's soulmate. I say that is a false assumption. Soulmates end up together. Clark Kent and Lana Lang are always forced apart.

One way or another, in every single incarnation of Superman, Lana Lang and Clark Kent end up apart. So your soulmate theory simply does not hold.

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im sick of all the lana haters here, Clark had FEELINGS for Lois, starting from this season, Clark LOVES Lana, end of

Just so you know, not everyone who has a varying opinion from yours is a hater. Can we please expand on our vocabulary? I mean, all I hear from some people is hater this, hater that. Hater. Hater.

I do not agree with a lot of what is being said here. That does not make me a hater. :)

[melissan02]

That is not true. Clark has never had a love relationship with Lois to even tell which one is better. Given the spoilers, he's about to start seeing Lois as a potential lover now, when she comes back. Lana chose to be "enhanced" in order to try a life with Clark, cause she tought that just being herself, a simple human, wasn't enough. Sounds to me like lack of self-esteem, inferiority complex. She thinks she can't handle Clark just by being a normal person. Whereas Lois is just Lois, like he said in Bulletproof, that bold and brave human being. She's got what it takes to share a life with a guy who's destined to far more things in life than just date and work.
Alania, I think you've hit on several points here that will lead to Clark's redemption and Lois not being seen as second choice.

Clark hasn't had a love relationship w/ Lois----yet!;) I think one of the ways TPTB can redeem Clark after this terrible arc is to have him see the vast difference in what having a love relationship w/ Lana lacks and what one w/ Lois offers.

A love relationship w/ Lois will offer Clark a sense of normalcy and stability in his life...one w/ Lana would not have offered those things. I think as time passes and he's falling for Lois, he'll realize this. Yes, it will take time, but he'll begin to see this...and like it!;)
There's damage been done to Clois now for sure....I admit that. But, from here on out, (I'm hoping) TPTB will go this route of having Clark realize that a love relationship w/ Lois outshines what he thought he would have w/ Lana.

[sithius]

I still don't agree. Lana holds the spark with Clark, I can't really picture him being as intensely in love/obsessed with Lois. The man was able to kiss Lana with a lot of kryptonite radiation rushing through his face (that effect was nice, because we haven't seen it since I think season 1). With Lois he could probably manage something similar, but the vigor will not be larger than the Clana relationship.

[myankskent]

Correction. The series *will* tie into the comics. This has been known since day one. Three things that cannot change in Smallville or any other universe (as sanctioned by DC): Lex Luthor will turn evil. Clark Kent will become Superman. And....wait for it....wait for it....Clark Kent and Lois Lane will end up together.

As horrible as PS3 make the actual journey, the three things above can *never* change. Not even in Smallville. :)

This is why Lana Lang has never phased me. No matter what, I know that she cannot end up with Clark Kent. It has never happened and it will never happen.

So then the journey doesn't really matter, it's all about the endpoint. Again I ask, what was the point of this series again? I just can't jump for joy that TPTB got the endpoint right when they totally screwed up everything else in order to reach that endpoint.

[thehenry89]

clana means nothing to me. As far as i'm concerned the last 8 years of their relationship were like a big budget movie with great special effects and a crappy predictable ending.

long live clois, cuz guess what that's the freakin end game not clana.

[melissan02]

I don't think Clark is going to "hit on Lois" :rolleyes:---period! Now, I do think he'll show more and more interest from here on out.
It will be a gradual realization that he has fallen for Lois, and it should be gradual. Furthermore, I think Clark's redemption will come along w/ this....he'll begin to see how vastly different a relationship w/ Lana is compared to one w/ Lois. Lois will offer Clark a sense of normalcy and stability. He wouldn't have had that w/ Lana, and in time, he'll understand this. Lana herself told Clark in "Power"...."nothing about us has even been normal"....and she was right....so, I think Clark will end up wanting some "normal" in his life from here on out, which will be what makes a love relationship w/ Lois more appealing to him. He'll see that having that w/ Lois outshines what he had w/ Lana.
Clark needs redemption right now after this terrible arc! I'm hoping TPTB bring him along from here on out on that road to redemption.---They must!

[Tompouce]

Clark will see he can have a normal love with a "normal" woman, who will love him with his difference without trying to be like him. She will be there to support him too.

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No, what's wrong was the writers trying to force a love affair between Clark and his high school girlfriend.


Lois Lane is the one he's supposed to fall for and be soul mates with, so please let's continue with the real story now. Clark becoming Superman with Lois Lane as his leading lady!

Can't wait until March!
Yes, exactly. Michèle, are you reading my thoughts ?:D
So, the Clana end was not what we expected but now we have to move on. Go SV, go Clark, go Lois !:p

[thehenry89]

Clark will see he can have a normal love with a "normal" woman, who will love him with his difference without trying to be like him. She will be there to support him too.

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Yes, exactly. Michèle, are you reading my thoughts ?:D
So, the Clana end was not what we expected but now we have to move on. Go SV, go Clark, go Lois !:p

ITA lois doesn't have to put on a freakin supersuit to be with clark and she will love because he is different, not inspite of them.

[Superman's_Wife]

So then the journey doesn't really matter, it's all about the endpoint.

It's not about the journey not being important. It's about the journey having strict restrictions on it that can never change. PS3 have had their way in changing a lot of things but they cannot change the end of the journey.



Again I ask, what was the point of this series again?
Well this question could have been asked on day one. The restrictions were always there. The ending could never change. The point was to give these men the artistic license reatively alter the path but not the final destination.


I just can't jump for joy that TPTB got the endpoint right when they totally screwed up everything else in order to reach that endpoint.As for the journey itself, I don't see anyone jumping for joy about it. PS3 have screwed up so many things and have left the majority of fans, for one reason or another, unhappy.

I do think it is a faulty statement to make that PS3 screwed everything up in order to reach the endpoint. They screwed this up all on their own and not because of these restrictions. PS3 have known since day one what the end point was going to be, and they've had 8 years to get there in a reasonable and admirable way.

So let's not blame the final destination for this garbage that we are seeing. The ending isn't what needs to change, it's PS3's warped notion of what good storytelling is all about that needs to be altered.

[Iluvgreen]

No. You know what! Clark loves Lois. And they will get together in the end, and he will finally find the person he's going to spend the rest of his life with.

[Superman's_Wife]

No. You know what! Clark loves Lois. And they will get together in the end, and he will finally find the person he's going to spend the rest of his life with.

You are right. This is one destiny that cannot be changed. DC simply won't allow it. People can whine, fuss and go out kicking but Lois Lane is always end game for Clark Kent.

[Imzadi]

I guess he might just forget her like Alicia from one episode to another. It's Smallville after all.

[myankskent]

It's not about the journey not being important. It's about the journey having strict restrictions on it that can never change. PS3 have had their way in changing a lot of things but they cannot change the end of the journey.


So again, the journey doesn't matter. TPTB can do whatever they want along the way but if what they do doesn't match the endpoint, oh well. It doesn't matter.




So let's not blame the final destination for this garbage that we are seeing. The ending isn't what needs to change, it's PS3's warped notion of what good storytelling is all about that needs to be altered.

Since when was the final destination about Lex Luthor being killed by Oliver Queen?

[Superman's_Wife]

So again, the journey doesn't matter. TPTB can do whatever they want along the way but if what they do doesn't match the endpoint, oh well. It doesn't matter.
Again, the journey being pre-determined doesn't make the path there meaningless. We go on the path mostly for the sake of entertainment. I'm not saying PS3 succeeded but that is the point.
Since when was the final destination about Lex Luthor being killed by Oliver Queen?
Lex Luthor is not dead. He never is. But that isn't the point. I am not defending that path that PS3 has taken. In fact, I am with the majority in saying that it has all been pretty lousy. What I am saying with conviction is that the ending, which in this case is pre-determined, is not at fault for bad storytelling.

I can think of countless ways to reach the three DC restrictions without destroying iconic characters along the way. Obviously PS3 could not. Why fault the ending and not the writers themselves?

[myankskent]

Again, the journey being pre-determined doesn't make the path there meaningless. We go on the path mostly for the sake of entertainment. I'm not saying PS3 succeeded but that is the point.


I'm sorry, but the path is meaningless if it doesn't allow the endpoint to make any sense.



Lex Luthor is not dead. He never is.


Maybe he's not, but if it's never revealed that Lex Luthor is alive on this show again, I will think that he is dead given what happened in "Requiem". Chloe was able to track Lex. When the truck blew up, we saw a shot of Lex's face as extreme light closed in around him. His remains were identified. That seems like a pretty clear death to me.



But that isn't the point. I am not defending that path that PS3 has taken. In fact, I am with the majority in saying that it has all been pretty lousy. What I am saying with conviction is that the ending, which in this case is pre-determined, is not at fault for bad storytelling.


I understand what you are saying and you are right, but here's where we disagree. You're apparently ok with the journey being lousy and the endpoint making no sense and I feel that TPTB should adjust the endpoint so this show can at least come to a satisfying conclusion. The way this show is going right now, characters are going to continue being destroyed.

[Superman's_Wife]

I understand what you are saying and you are right, but here's where we disagree. You're apparently ok with the journey being lousy and the endpoint making no sense and I feel that TPTB should adjust the endpoint so this show can at least come to a satisfying conclusion. The way this show is going right now, characters are going to continue being destroyed.

Actually, I think it all boils down to this. You believe that in order to rectify years of bad storytelling we must alter the ending. I believe that rectification impossible and thus altering the ending would serve no purpose but further destroying the mythology.

See, I don't like nor agree with the path. But changing the ending simply to make sense of this garbage just won't fly with me. The ending isn't the problem. It never was and never will be. These men could have told a damn good story, but they opted to throw out this soap opera nonsense. So now the ending doesn't quite jive, let's ruin that too!

No, thank you.

The ending was never the problem. And the ending will not be the solution to the mess that PS3 have conjured up.

[myankskent]

See, I don't like nor agree with the path. But changing the ending simply to make sense of this garbage just won't fly with me. The ending isn't the problem. It never was and never will be. These men could have told a damn good story, but they opted to throw out this soap opera nonsense. So now the ending doesn't quite jive, let's ruin that too!


Exactly how is the ending not ruined already? If the ending made complete sense, I'd agree not to change it but let's be honest, the ending might end up being a complete joke, therefore, changing the ending really doesn't hurt anything, IMO.

[Mr.Magic]

Out of sight, out of mind. Bana Bang is gone, and she can't work her meteor power on Clark anymore.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Clark will see he can have a normal love with a "normal" woman, who will love him with his difference without trying to be like him. She will be there to support him too.

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Yes, exactly. Michèle, are you reading my thoughts ?:D
So, the Clana end was not what we expected but now we have to move on. Go SV, go Clark, go Lois !:p

Exactly! I'm not even giving Clana a second thought today TBH!:D;)

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I guess he might just forget her like Alicia from one episode to another. It's Smallville after all.

That's exactly what will happen. It's what I'm going to do!:cool:

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

No, what's wrong was the writers trying to force a love affair between Clark and his high school girlfriend.


Lois Lane is the one he's supposed to fall for and be soul mates with, so please let's continue with the real story now. Clark becoming Superman with Lois Lane as his leading lady!

Can't wait until March!

me to. Lets all forget about this really bad dream.
end continue with the way it was before this arc:D

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Out of sight, out of mind. Bana Bang is gone, and she can't work her meteor power on Clark anymore.

lets hope so.
knowing SV the might bring here back:(

[Minela]

All I gotta say is, there better be a season 9!!!!

[Superman's_Wife]

Exactly how is the ending not ruined already? If the ending made complete sense, I'd agree not to change it but let's be honest, the ending might end up being a complete joke, therefore, changing the ending really doesn't hurt anything, IMO.

Changing the end doesn't hurt anything? Well how about this: Changing the ending won't fix anything either! And the end is pretty much sacred to the Superman mythology which is why the restriction exists. If you alter the ending *now* what's to change people from altering it later??

I'm all for sacrificing this one series, with the ending not quite jiving, as long as in the big picture it remains clear that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE MUST LOIS AND CLARK EVER BE KEPT APART.

They are end game. Plain and simple. :)

[tbird4u]

absolutley not!! This is going to work itself out. Clark CAN love lana and fall in love with lois... as a matter of fact he will always love lana... he just hasnt realized hes not IN love with her... that is coming when lois gets back... Its simple clark thinks hes in love with lana but when lois comes back and he sees how she handles everything about him he is gonna realizes his SOUL MATE has been standing in front of him this whole time. Its only a matter of waiting but It will happen!

[marcella]

I will love it. Clark forgetting Lana faster than a speeding bullet.

But Lois needs to give him a cold shoulder

[vyperman7]

If they were going to make Clana romantic again, they never should have had a near Clois kiss, or built up to it so much in the first half. They complete un-did everything with a handful of episodes. It will make absolutely no sense now for Clark to have feelings for Lois in the next few episodes, because it won't be nearly enough time for him to move on. It really pisses me off that the writers just expect us to forget about the last 5 episodes.

I notice that some people are saying that Clark needs more time to grow up. What's sad about this show in regards to Clark is that everyone always says Clark needs a long time to grow up before he is ready for .... However, this has been said about Clark for many seasons now, and every season it always ends with Clark needing to grow up. That theory worked for the early seasons because Clark was still a teenager, and it was his time to mature and grow up. However, Clark is going to be 24. He is a man now. The time for growing up is long past. That is why I feel that Clark will never be ready to become Superman, because if he hasn't learned anything after 8 years, he never will.

[supes0]

I'm sorry, but the path is meaningless if it doesn't allow the endpoint to make any sense.

I agree. But the sad thing, it will end with some kind of Clois. And how much do you want to bet Clark is going to say to somebody, most probably not Lois, he realizes Lois is his soul mate? Because one of the arcs has been Clark finding his "one".

How ridiculous will this be? Everything we just saw was utterly utterly meaningless. He is going to forget Lana the same way he forgot Alicia. And I'm shocked. I didn't not expect this. I expected a dignified closure for both of them.

It's bad taste for Clark to move on the Lois, but he will at the cost of his personal integrity.

Why? Because to the larger world, not the few million who watched last night, Lois Lane is the love of Clark Kent's life. This is ingrained pop culture and won't change.

The problem is, when it happens on Smallville, it will look hackneyed and forced.


and I feel that TPTB should adjust the endpoint so this show can at least come to a satisfying conclusion. The way this show is going right now, characters are going to continue being destroyed.

I agree, but I don't think they are allowed too. I don't want them going near Clois, but they will because that is what the general public knows and that is how they draw in viewers.

I feel this should be an elseworld and Clark should end up happily ever after with Lana in Smallville. But it won't happen and the damage is to Clark Kent, nobody else.

[Superman's_Wife]

Destiny is on our side, fellow cloisers! In good times or in bad times! :)

[Minela]

I don't think it will be a stretch if Clark falls for Lois on this show. Even while he was with Lana he said all he ever wanted was a true partner with whom he could work side by side like Martha and Jonathan did. And yeah, he thought that person was Lana. But he is wrong. We all know who'll be his partner and who'll work with him side by side saving the world.

[myankskent]

I agree. But the sad thing, it will end with some kind of Clois. And how much do you want to bet Clark is going to say to somebody, most probably not Lois, he realizes Lois is his soul mate? Because one of the arcs has been Clark finding his "one".

How ridiculous will this be?


Very ridiculous. This is the bottom line for me...people who are soul mates don't need kryptonite to infect the girl that Clark wants to be with so that they can be together and that's exactly how TPTB played this. Lois has been on this show for five years now and it takes kryptonite to have them fall in love with each other. Very sad.




I feel this should be an elseworld and Clark should end up happily ever after with Lana in Smallville. But it won't happen and the damage is to Clark Kent, nobody else.


Yeah, that's the worst part. Clark Kent is going to continue to be destroyed in order for TPTB to reach their endpoint. This Clana arc was just the beginning of it, IMO.

[Tompouce]

If they were going to make Clana romantic again, they never should have had a near Clois kiss, or built up to it so much in the first half. They complete un-did everything with a handful of episodes. It will make absolutely no sense now for Clark to have feelings for Lois in the next few episodes, because it won't be nearly enough time for him to move on. It really pisses me off that the writers just expect us to forget about the last 5 episodes.

I notice that some people are saying that Clark needs more time to grow up. What's sad about this show in regards to Clark is that everyone always says Clark needs a long time to grow up before he is ready for .... However, this has been said about Clark for many seasons now, and every season it always ends with Clark needing to grow up. That theory worked for the early seasons because Clark was still a teenager, and it was his time to mature and grow up. However, Clark is going to be 24. He is a man now. The time for growing up is long past. That is why I feel that Clark will never be ready to become Superman, because if he hasn't learned anything after 8 years, he never will.
I understand what you mean but remember Clark's choices will not have the same consequences for him and the world than ours. That is why it is so hard for him, so lonnnng for us;)

[blink2matrix]

if next episode picks up RIGHT after requiem then yes, it will be bad taste.

If the next episode picks up "weeks later" then no, it will be normal development. i'm definitely hoping for the latter if they do pursue the Clois arc right away.

[Superman's_Wife]

if next episode picks up RIGHT after requiem then yes, it will be bad taste.

If the next episode picks up "weeks later" then no, it will be normal development. i'm definitely hoping for the latter if they do pursue the Clois arc right away.

I would be so funny if PS3 are reading this and a light bulb flashes in their mind. Then we see the airing of Infamous and superimposed in big bold letters is: two years later.


I wouldn't put it past those monkeys do to it either! Lol.

[blink2matrix]

we've had time jumps of weeks between episodes before so i don't see it as unfathomable. If they pull "years" i'll tear my hair out, lol.

[margroks]

Considering that the producers have made clear EDLois and Clark have bene depicted as having a brother-sister relationship until now, it would be in extremely poor taste for Clak to ever be romantically interested in her. Crimson was disgusting and creepy as it was so no, no romance between them will ever be acceptable regardless of the nauseating events of last night's ep.

[Superman's_Wife]

Considering that the producers have made clear EDLois and Clark have bene depicted as having a brother-sister relationship until now, it would be in extremely poor taste for Clak to ever be romantically interested in her. Crimson was disgusting and creepy as it was so no, no romance between them will ever be acceptable regardless of the nauseating events of last night's ep.

Yeah sure. You just keep telling yourself that. :)

[bcooper56]

Considering that the producers have made clear EDLois and Clark have bene depicted as having a brother-sister relationship until now, it would be in extremely poor taste for Clak to ever be romantically interested in her. Crimson was disgusting and creepy as it was so no, no romance between them will ever be acceptable regardless of the nauseating events of last night's ep.If that true why are they going to end up together if you read on upcoming episodes some how they end up together for the rest of there lives.

[ZODisGOD]

I don't think Clark and Lois should get together romantically till AT LEAST the series finale. For now I'm fine with them just being partners in their professions.

[kal-el_Girl]

As long as Ollie tells him to enjoy his sloppy seconds.

oh clark deserves that so much!! although technically lois and ollie never "did it" but still it would be nice to hear ollie say that. :lol:

[magic]

I think it would be in bad taste for Clark to be with any human at all after this

I'm reminded of the Warrior Angel quote in Hero: "when you're destined to save mankind you're destined to be alone".

that would so work for SV imo

[Tompouce]

I think it would be in bad taste for Clark to be with any human at all after this

I'm reminded of the Warrior Angel quote in Hero: "when you're destined to save mankind you're destined to be alone".

that would so work for SV imo
Are you kidding ? Superman without his soulmate ? That is why the story is so interesting. Okay he has powers, he saves the world,...BUT the thing about Clark is his love story with Lois Lane. It is mythic and it adds something magic to his character

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I would be so funny if PS3 are reading this and a light bulb flashes in their mind. Then we see the airing of Infamous and superimposed in big bold letters is: two years later.


I wouldn't put it past those monkeys do to it either! Lol.
LOOOL, yesterday evening, I was dreaming, they read them and asked the actors (TW, KK,...)to make a new version for "requiem" after our angst for "power". It was a dream so:(:D

[Vindellavon]

Honestly? Clark hitting on anyone besides Shelby sounds right about disgusting.

[smallvillefreak24]

ITS NOT FAIR all the clois stuff has been completely unraveled!!!

[umm]

No, he shouldn't be hitting on or making googly eyes at anyone for a long long while.


After this episode it seems clear, that TPTB consider Clana the starcrossed lover of all time, and he should remain single for a while now! Actually this scenario is even worse than if they had killes her, cos now she is alive and yet she is almost dead to him and Lois will forever be living in a shadow of a selfsacrifising martyr, that is Lana Lang! How do they possibly imagine that Clois will work out after this?

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

i think that clark will indeed fall hard four lois. its not that he think she is second best or he just taking what he can. lana is his first love but there four not his only one. there r no rules in love or four how many people you fall in love with. but there will always be something about your first one. thus take make lois second best? IMO i don't think so.
she will be a diferent love. his true love even. and i think thats what we will see growing in the episodes to come. and clark will realize she is the one four him. so i don't see any reason why clois cannot start again on SV but thats just me ofcours.
so four me i cant wait four infamous to start where whe left of before this lana arc:D
and i cant wait to see lois again.
hope we get a trailer soon

[Smallville619]

i demand a time skip or this would make a HELL of a lot of us turn off the show

[Indira Kal]

i demand a time skip or this would make a HELL of a lot of us turn off the show

ITA. unless there's indeed a 9th season, it seems next to impossible, if not inappropriate, for clark to move on to lois with the given amount of episodes left this season...

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

i demand a time skip or this would make a HELL of a lot of us turn off the show

well i could see i time skip happening. it would make a lot of sense IMO.
but i hope they don't make it to long that would be weird. but maybe some weeks or mounts?

[drew24]

It just makes me smile how "concern" we are with Clarks relationship with women. Even if we all know how it really ends.

[Lionelismy idol]

I will admit that I liked this episode alot and I thought Lana leaving the way she did was very smart. However, the way she left made it absolutely impossible for Lois to ever be taken seriously as a love interest for Clark.

Since Clark and Lana were forced to be apart by a third party and not on their own accord, Lois will always be looked as Clark's "second choice," and not "his true love."

I think that's sad and does a disservice to the show. Bringing back Lana was a cool idea and maybe a ratings bump, but it will ultimately affect the show in the long run (pending there is another season).

[amberdawn]

I agree. But the sad thing, it will end with some kind of Clois. And how much do you want to bet Clark is going to say to somebody, most probably not Lois, he realizes Lois is his soul mate? Because one of the arcs has been Clark finding his "one".

*holds head in pain*

[Superman&Clana]

I dont aprove and never will Clois in SV. I aprove it in the movies, comics, L&C, cartoons, but not in SV.Never
IT was the story about his first love and him becoming superman. His first love is now gone and he should become Superman. He maybe can have kinda sorta fellings for lois but nothing more...

[SGuthrie27]

It depends on the time frame they show us. If, when the show comes back in March, they say that several months have passed since Lana left, then I don't think it's in TOO bad taste. Besides, I'm sure that Lana would want Clark to move on with his life and find some happiness, as I'm sure she will. If, on the other hand, they decide to say that it's only a week or two later, then it's DEFINITELY in bad taste. Still, I'm ready for a change from the revisitation of the Clana roller coaster that we've endured for a past few episodes.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Coyote]

Since neither Clark nor the writers have ever given any indication of ever having any taste anyway, it isn't really an issue. Clark has several times been "in love" with someone, and then seemingly forgotten their existence by the next episode. It's no problem for him.

[old guy]

Prior to Lana's return this season, things were clearly starting to sizzle between Lois and Clark. I think they very clearly established, both in Committed and in the almost-kiss at the wedding, that they are WAY beyond those "I think of him like a brother" stages.

As much as I strongly disliked the whole "Lana Returns" arc, this now gives them a chance to slow down the CLOIS even more. Clark can't just go and try to pounce on Lois within 1 or 2 episodes or it just makes him seem cheap, creepy, and very un-Superman-like. And after having Lana around, even if she (thankfully) wasn't in town to witness yet another "sex earthquake", Lois will be very wary about falling head over heels for Clark. Lois' natural reflex is to build a very thick wall around her heart to protect herself from pain anyway. Now she'll be walking around with a kryptonite chastity belt under her slacks as well. Plus, Lois has way too much pride to let herself be anyone's rebound or "consolation prize" - even Superman's.

[ClumsyGRL]

i looooove lois, but honestly, i don't think i want to see clois in this season, i know they are planning on it!just hope they won't mess with lois like they did to chloe and clark.

[Mrs. Superman]

If he does I hope Lois cuts him down. I do not want to see her still so completely in love with him. Lets see if Clark deserves her before she looks his way again.

[Loisdragon]

Clark got Needs but his needs Ain't Lois

[Dom20]

This episode does not cheapen Clois or Lois in anyway for me.

People are talking like its impossible for Clark for find something more beautiful than he had with Lana? And it isnt. Its as simple as that.

What he hopefully finds later with Lois will be different but proves to be greater in all aspects.

Like MrZeppo put so brilliantly in his post.

Lois brings something to Clark that Lana never could and that completes him as Superman. He moves on to do greater things in everyway.

What will be interesting however will be how the writers reintroduce CLois and the romance between them, but im betting it will be with a smile to Clarks face bringing him comfort after all that has happened and that will mean everything about where they will eventually end up.

They hopefully will now let Clark finally become the Superman we all know.

I thought the end scene was done brilliantly and brings closure to Clana that was to some long overdue. Great TV

:rotfl: Sorry but Great TV? Oh come on now thats a bit of a stretch don't you think. Maybe its just me, but how on earth is that closure? The opening is so there for her to return someday and I wouldn't be surprised if she did come back. Theres way too many plot holes with the closure. Maybe that comes from the fact that I'm familiar with Superman mythos. But hey I wouldn't be watching this show if I wasn't.

Fact is Buffy and Angel had it worse than these two and they both manage to work through it. Now thats a real relationship. Even the way it ended was so real. Both realized there destinies were far bigger than there love and both chose to see it through to the end.

[LoveHurts38]

He will get over Lana with a snap of a finger like he did for Alicia in S4 when he was crying and stated that he loved her...blah...blah...blah...Than, he remembers Lana again it's Smallville.

[LoveHurts38]

If he does I hope Lois cuts him down. I do not want to see her still so completely in love with him. Lets see if Clark deserves her before she looks his way again.

When Lois returns for her it will be all forgoten...her feeling for Clark were premature anyways:cool:

[paolinki25]

Of course it is. After the nonsense that was Power and Requiem. Of course!

[Kevin24]

Fact is Buffy and Angel had it worse than these two and they both manage to work through it. Now thats a real relationship. Even the way it ended was so real. Both realized there destinies were far bigger than there love and both chose to see it through to the end.

That isn't a fact that is an opinion. Buffy and Angel a real relationship?:rotfl:

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

I am amazed at how easily people are just giving up. Sorry but that's giving these hacks exactly what they want, do you want them to bring Lana back this season for good?

Clark can redeem himself for Lois IMO

I always thought all along Lana would be the death of this show...

[Kal el of krypton]

wait awhile before people think hes on a rebound and falls for lois lol

[curiosity]

He may spend his life with Lois, but she's just the woman he ends up with -- not the woman he WANTED to end up with.


Everyone who has a first love "wants' their first love. Can you say everyone who's now married and in a loving relationship is nothing because BEFORE that they "wanted" someone else?

People move on to a greater love than the first. Maybe some don't, but most of the time everyone does, because first loves are usually chosen by young teenagers, and therefore most of the time they are disasters because teenagers are too young to realize who and what they need, because they've never known anything else. :)

[AngylWylde]

I absolutely agree. I can not believe the depths to which tptb have ruined/messed with the mythos. And messing with Lois/Clois is just the tip of the iceberg. I mentioned elsewhere, but all of this and more, they ruined in the last few eps:

1) making Lana Clark's equal or BETTER and stronger than Clark, actually 2) not having any resolution to Clana and making them forced to be apart, but not wanting to 3) this has caused Lois to be relegated to a distant rebound girl and/or second choice and 4) killing off the original Lex freakin Luthor for chrissakes

It just blows the mind, how very much these hacks totally hacked into the mythos (no pun intended). I can't believe how much tptb have crapped on both Lois and Lex, the other two 'sacred' characters in the mythos. They also haven't done much favors for Clark. The only one that ended up getting out of this mess smelling like roses was Lana. She ended up better and stronger than Clark, even. Perhaps she was the true hero of the show all along? Or maybe, tptb really meant this show to be the evolution of Lana Lang. Which is fine, I guess, if they had let that be known all along. In that event, I would have stopped watching long ago. Smallville should have ended 2 or 3 seasons ago before it all went to hell. I wouldn't be surprised if they killed off Chloe now or did something else heinous. Whatever. *le sigh*

[myankskent]

This does not matter. Everyone who has a first love "wants' their first love. You cannot say that everyone who's now married and in a loving relationship is nothing because BEFORE that they "wanted" someone else, right?

Do you see what I mean? People move on to a greater love than the first. Maybe some don't, but most of the time everyone does, because first loves are usually chosen by young teenagers, and therefore most of the time they are disasters because teenagers are too young to realize who and what they need, becuase they've never known anything else. :)

Clark's not a teenager anymore, he's a man. I have no doubt in my mind that he can move on and fall in love with someone else. However, there's still unresolved issues between he and Lana because the breakup was never about the feelings that they have for each other. See, Clark is going to move on with his life knowing that he will never be able to act on his feelings for Lana but it doesn't mean that they will just go away. Had this been a scenario where Clark actually realized that Lana wasn't the one he wanted to be with, that would've eliminated all of the feelings that he had for her and he would've been able to move forward in his life with a clear head. Unfortunately, that didn't happen for Clark.

[curiosity]

*mod edit* that Clana IS true love, it wasnt just something clark needed to get over.. it just proves on SMALLVILLE LOIS IS 2ND PLACE.

CLANA FOREVER <3

True love doesn't give up or end. :)

If 2nd place were true, there would be an entire population of married adults out there who are 2nd choice. It's called "puppy love". Puppy love means you're soooo happy to have what you have, because you're experiencing it for the first time, you're just a "pup" and have nothing to compare it to, just like a puppy who is so happy to chew up shoes, because he's never had an actual bone. Of course a puppy "wants" to chew up shoes, and he'd probably try and make sure he could always have his "shoe" by taking it and barrying it if he could.

But once the pup grows up and has a bone, do you think the bone would be 2nd choice? That's all Clana was.

[Kevin24]

It wouldn't have made any sense if all of a sudden he just didn't feel that way about Lana in "Requiem" and decided it was over between them.

[yes2destiny]

They cheapened Clark, in my opinion. If there is a season 9, I do think that Clark will fall in love with Lois and realize that he doesn't want Lana anymore...if KK doesn't come back, I'm pretty sure that someone they'll show that Lois is NOT second choice (whether it's Clark verbalizing his feelings about Lois or something happening offscreen with Lana). I have to keep telling myself that this is Smallville, and right now, Clark isn't in love with Lois. They're not in a relationship. But I do believe that once he does fall in love with her, he won't be able to go back to anything else even though right now it seems as if Lana is his "end all, be all." As much as seeing the metaphor playing out sucked (they should have just had them be adults and MOVE on), Clark is better off without Lana in more ways than one.

However, yes, at this point, I can't see how they are going to make the spoilers for future episodes even remotely believable.

Clark Kent, you suck. Writers, you suck. I can't believe that Lana Lang is more powerful than the future Superman!

Okay, this post is all over the place...

[Marfeic2011]

Considering what happened in Requiem do you think Clark should be hitting on Lois an

episode or two later?

I personally haven't been able to stand Lana and Clark for a while, so personally don't

mind seeing Lois and Clark sparking off each other again, even though I hate that to Clark

Lois is his No.2 choice.

I would be messed up... but of course we know it will happen in "hex" per the spoilers (it will be cloe who just looks like lois) or whatever

of course its in bad taste, but it would be in keeping with smallville's version of clark kent - although it DEFINATELY NOT IN KEEPING with the legendary/beloved characters of CK/SUPERMAN over the last 70 years...

i personally serverly dislike (since I am apparently not allowed to hate a fictional character) sv's character of clark - ever since the "almost kiss" in "bride" - it was messed up the way he totally tossed lois aside when lana showed up, and he never looked back...

[rebecavaldez]

Yeah, I haven't liked the past couple of episode because they have made Lois Clark's rebound! I don't think it's right. I mean ok, I know Clana needed to have a closure, but did they really have to have them have a relationship again?

[geminis]

Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. Why should I be so surprised at how Clois was treated. Fortunately, because SV has such a poor memory (and I thought mine was bad), this too will be forgotten like a bad dream.

I will always ship Clois, I find it impossible to give up on them, because they would never give up on each other (unlike some other pairings I could mention) even despite some pretty major blows. People may think Clois/Clark has been cheapened and I'm not going to argue with them, because I see the view point clearly. But I'm going to keep faith in Big Blue and look to the future when he sees that Clana was always cheap and never Clois.

Plus, quoting Lois: "Lana is your past, I'm your future." And I'm loving the present and future Lana absence.

[curiosity]

Peeps gotta remember that clark hasnt actually fallen in LOVE with Lois lane yet. He has feelings for her but just wait for the moment he actually falls hard, he will realize that Lana was nothing in comparison.

This.:)

[newfamfan]

I am surprised that everyone screams the mythos about this. Let's be honest. IN THE MYTHOS, that all Lois fans like to scream about, Lana is the love of Clark's life in many versions in Smallville. Lois does NOT fall in love with Clark Kent first. She first falls for her superhero. That is the MYTHOS.

So if they have Clark all gaga over Lois Lane in Smallville that is going against the MYTHOS that so many are saying this show ruined. So what, in Smallville, Clark loves Lana foremost. Many people love and lose and move on. I, personally, don't care about the future after SV...but Smallville's epic love story was Clark and Lana. It is based on these MYTHOS that everyone screams about. The biggest mistake was bringing Lois in the picture. Had they had a spin off allowing Clark to say goodbye to Lana....Call it Metropolis and allow the epic love story to be Lois/Clark. That would be great as far as I am concerned.

Once again this show is titled Smallville for a reason. It is Clark's early years and not a remake of The Adventures of Lois and Clark or Superman.

Lois falling for Clark Kent is AGAINST the MYTHOS..but those screaming ruining the MYTHOS aren't truly wanting the writers to follow the Mythos..they are wanting their ship portrayed. Those are the real facts.

Also, I don't understand the rants about this ruining Clark. Why? Because he didn't deny a girl that he has loved since he was a young child? Clark once gave up his powers to be with Lana. (See Mortal) Lana gained powers to be with Clark (Power) What was the difference? They were in love and were trying to be together the best way they could. Clark stuck by a woman that was tortured for three months by Brainiac....due to her connection to Clark. Brainiac said Lana was going through the most excrutiating pain. Was Clark just supposed to suddenly quit loving her simply due to Lois making googly eyes at him? Was Clark supposed to fall head over heels for Lois Lane who most of the series has insulted him on every occassion? Let's forget the Lois of the comics...and watch the Lois of SV alone. What makes her so great in the eyes of each viewer that makes Clark less for not falling head over heels at the first sign of flirtation from Lois Lane? I think it is simply because she carries the name Lois Lane that all think it must be. I am sure that now that Lana is gone...hopefully, SV will start making Lois more of a female that Clark can love. But as of now, it did not belittle Clark for loving Lana. He still chose the world over her. He would Lois as well. That is who he is. SACRIFICING.

[Dyanara]

Am I the only one who thinks it would not only be insulting to Lois but to Lana as well?

[skully]

In response to the thread title, Clark is hardly a "hit on" anyone type of guy. It'll be Lois doing the hitting-on. :D

[alejandrita439]

mmm i dont know...

[Indira Kal]

Am I the only one who thinks it would not only be insulting to Lois but to Lana as well?

to be fair, i would have to say "yes" it would be insulting to lana as well. am totally not a clana fan however with all the LOVE they have shoved in our faces the past 8 years, to have clark start crunching on lois in a short period of time after their climatic "we can't be together" send-off, it would seem very "off" if, by some circumstance, lana were to walk in on clois in a all too close demeanor. i think in this case, regardless of how they present the romance development, within such a short space of time, it would be clark who would look bad here.

this is why i am all for and *fingers crossing* for a time jump, just so that the situation would be more believable from a viewer's as well as logic perspective.

[amberdawn]

Lois does NOT fall in love with Clark Kent first. She first falls for her superhero. That is the MYTHOS.


How many times am I going to have to say this?

In the newer mythos, Lois DOES fall in love with CLARK, not his superhero persona. Read up on it.

[DavidM2]

All this talk of the mythos makes me which Season 9 would happen and by then Clark would fully embrace his destiny...then they could make a triangle I'd actually enjoy: Lois/Superman/Clark!
And at first I agreed Clois was cheapened, but Lois is Clark's soul mate. I'm sure we'll forget all about Clana in the episodes to come, and just remember that it was love not meant to be.

[Sunny8]

Clark once gave up his powers to be with Lana. (See Mortal)

This is not true. In 'Arrival' Clark loses his powers (and it is not to be with Lana). Clark gets into a fight with the Kryptonian's from the ship and then the sun goes down. He hasn't kept his promise to Jor-el so Jor-el removes his powers. He did not sacrifice them to be with Lana, but lost them due to disobedience to Jor-el. Here is the dialogue from 'Arrival':


Inside the Fortress of Solitude.

CLARK: I thought Krypton was desotroyed!

JOR-EL: It was, but here in your Fortress of Solitude, the geography of our plantet has been replicated for your training.

CLARK: I know there's a lot I can learn from you, but I have to get home. That's where I'm needed.

JOR-EL: The meteor shower is only the precursor. A dark force from Krypton has been awakened, Kal-El, and it's sights have been set on Earth.

CLARK: What do you want me to do?

A blue light encircles Clark.

JOR-EL:You must do as I tell you. Study with diligence, for that is the only way to save this planet.

Images and symbols now encircle Clark.

Chloe walks towards the Fortress of Solitude and enters. She is shivering due to the very cold climate. She sees Clark encircles by the blue light. A gust of wind blows and she falls to her knees. She's starting to freeze to death.

CHLOE: Clark!

She completley collapses.

The visions are still flashing before Clark's eyes, but he can still hear Chloe.

CHLOE: Clark, can you hear me? Clark!

Chloe is badly frozen, her voice is weak.

The visions around Clark dissipate and he sees Chloe.

CLARK: Chloe!

He runs to her and cradles her.

JOR-EL: Kal-El, you must continue your education. You cannot stop.

CLARK: She's my friend! She needs help!

JOR-EL: Your destiny is far greater than saving one human life.

CLARK: No, I won't let her die!

JOR-EL: Each time you let your emotions guide you, the fate of the of the entire planet is at risk. That is your weakness, Kal-El!

CLARK: Please! I'm begging you!

Chloe is shivering.

JOR-EL: Very well--under one condition: return to me before the yellow sun has set.

CLARK: I'll be back. I promise.

JOR-EL: Do not fail me, Kal-El, for the consequences will be grave.

CLARK: You have my word.

CHLOE: Hey. I think it's time you switch into Super Clark mode now.

CLARK: Super Clark.

CHLOE: I know you run faster than a speeding bullet, Clark. Take me along for the ride.

Clark picks her up.

CHLOE: Go, Clark.

They speed off.


Then he talks with his parents about his loss of powers in 'Arrival' and again it has nothing to do with Lana:

Kent Farm. Day. The Kents drive up in their truck. They got out of the truck. Martha is on crutches.

Martha, upon seeing their destroyed house: My God, our home!

JONATHAN: It's just wood and plaster, Martha. The fact is, our family's still standing. We might be bruised, but I think we're stronger for it.

MARTHA: You're right. A house can always be rebuilt.

JONATHAN: It doesn't hurt to have a one man construction team as a son.

Martha, to CLARK: Hi.

CLARK: Hi.

JONATHAN: Don't worry, Clark. Things are gonna get back to normal soon enough.

CLARK: Actually, things will be a lot more normal around here than you think. My abilities are gone.

MARTHA: How?

CLARK: Jor-El took them, but I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. All I've ever wanted was to be normal. Now, finally, I am.

JONATHAN: I don't think this adjustment is giong to be quite as easy as you do, Clark.

CLARK: But that's why I'm lucky to have parents like you. Every time I woke up and had a new ability, you were always there to help me adjust and this time is no different.

MARTHA: It's different. You can get hurt now; you're vonerable.

CLARK: Isn't that what it means to be human?

JONATHAN: Nah, I-I can't imagine Jor-El giving up on you that easy.

CLARK: I took care of the danger he warned me about. If losing my abilities is the consequence, then I think he's done with me. Look, it's all in the past now. I'm ready to take a step to the future. I'll start by rebuilding this house, one board at a time.

In 'Mortal' Clark is talking with Chloe about the situation. He was happy to be normal, but he really had no choice. Clark did not make a decision to give up his powers for Lana. When he disobeyed Jor-el, his powers were taken from him whether he wanted them or not.


CLARK: It's not so bad. I kinda like being sore. It makes me feel like I've actually accomplished something. No pain, no gain, right?

He hammers his thumb.

CLARK: Aah!

Chloe takes his hand: Yeah, well, being a mere mortal does have it's drawbacks. You alright?

CLARK: Ow!

CHLOE: Are you sure this is what you really want?

Clark sees Lana off in the distance, working with some power tools.

CLARK: It's what I always wanted.

CHLOE: I was talking about you, Clark. Not your feelings for Lana.I mean, one day I find out my best friend's an alien, then the next day, presto change-o, he's just your average Kansas farm boy. Excuse me if I'm finding this a little hard to accept.

CLARK: Well, you're going to have to just get used to it. It's who I am now.

CHLOE: Clark, with all that you are able to do, I can't help thinking that your destiney is more than just milking cows and raising barns.

CLARK: Destiney's just abother word for not having a choice.

CHLOE: OKay, what about Alien Ken and Barbie? They tore arpart Smallville looking for you.

CLARK: They were looking for Kal-El. They're gone and so is he. Just let it go, Chloe.

He walks away from her. Lana brings him a drink.

[love_smallville]

I wish they would have had this type of permanent parting of Clana in that episode where she was being video taped (not in the mood to look up the title-sorry!). That's when this should have happened. That way all the leg work they did with Clois would be believable. It's a joke. They moved 2 steps forward and now about 10 steps back. I was actually starting to like Clois (I initially didn't see much chemistry between them) but now? What are they planning to do-just make them buddies? Have Lois hit him in the arm some more and say "what's up Smallville" as if nothing happened? Give me a break..

[Sunny8]

Clark stuck by a woman that was tortured for three months by Brainiac....due to her connection to Clark.

One could say he did this out of guilt. I read somewhere that he stayed loyal to Lois throughout a 10,000 year war. I don't know if this is correct but that shows true devotion, love, and sacrifice.

[skugers]

I think the only decent way to further things between CK and Lois is to "jump" in time. But I wouldn't like that. It's a cheap way to fix the Clana disaster.

[zar33n]

I hope Lois spent the episodes that she was away forgetting Clark. She cannot set herself up for another round of Clana.

[Pantalaimon]

Honestly people.
We all knew Clark loved Lana very much. The fact that he was discovering potential feelings for Lois didn't change that in the least.

I will admit I would have been happy to see Clark actually getting over Lana, but I accepted his feelings for Lois during this season even though it was ridiculous to suggest he was completely over Lana yet. And I will except his growing feelings for Lois even though Lana has been reconfirmed as his first love, as long as they don't have him rush into that now.

The final word is that destiny has separated them. So be it. Destiny has been a theme in Smallville for a long time so I guess it is a valid reason. Let's give the producers a chance to show that he can love Lois at least as much as Lana.

[Vergon6]

As I and others mentioned in other threads, and perhaps people mentioned it in this thread, but the way Lana and Clark parted was very symbolic. I didn't think it was proper closure, but there is a metaphor in at all.

Lana has now become literally human kryptonite to Clark. It proves that they were never destined to be together. He is destined to be with Lois.

[Pantalaimon]

Lana has now becoming literally human kryptonite to Clark. It proves that they were never destined to be together. He is destined to be with Lois.

Heh, I hadn't considered that implication. You might even see as some sort of stab at Clana by the new producers. They may have said (in Chloe's words) that Lana wasn't really what was holding Clark back, but this does suggest they think she was bad for him. ;)

[Dominicus]

Once again this show is titled Smallville for a reason. It is Clark's early years and not a remake of The Adventures of Lois and Clark or Superman.

Irrelevant and moot point. Clark is a metropolis reporter now. Lois is pivotal at this point, she is now within her own territory. Smallville’s Lana arc is obsolete after highschool. Lana supposed to be married to Pete by now. Clark should've learned to fly at 17, in college, dating Lori Lemaris. Lana met Clark Kent in elementary school. They became good friends, and ((Lana)) fell in love with Clark. Her thoughts of marriage ((ended)) in high school. Clark doesn’t meet Lex til he's 25 ECT; So, if you're going to talk about Lois, talk about the most annoying inconsistencies with the mythos, or adaptation of the comic, mythos revolves around Kent, Lane and Superman.


Lois falling for Clark Kent is AGAINST the MYTHOS..but those screaming ruining the MYTHOS aren't truly wanting the writers to follow the Mythos. they are wanting their ship portrayed. Those are the real facts.

And here's another fact, Clark doesn't fall for Lana Lang, it is the opposite. Lois at first considered Clark only as a rival scooping her on an interview, over the years Lois grew to love both Superman, and Clark Kent. Futhermore, Clark proposed, Lois accepted not yet knowing he was Superman. So it can translated into anything SV. Because Just about everything in SV is suppose to take place after Clark Kent becomes superman. His first encounter with kryptonite was at the age of 26, and just look at all those meteor rocks in smallville. lol Lane/Kent follows the mythos, story, legend, plot etc. They are the mythos. Lana and Kent are not.

The point is, since all the characters are in there, get the characters and their stories somewhat right. But the mythos is primarily focused on Superman, you cannot stray from his mythos concerning justice, strength and morals.


Lana gained powers to be with Clark (Power) What was the difference? They were in love and were trying to be together the best way they could. Clark stuck by a woman that was tortured for three months by Brainiac....due to her connection to Clark. Brainiac said Lana was going through the most excrutiating pain. Was Clark just supposed to suddenly quit loving her simply due to Lois making googly eyes at him? Was Clark supposed to fall head over heels for Lois Lane who most of the series has insulted him on every occassion? Let's forget the Lois of the comics...and watch the Lois of SV alone. What makes her so great in the eyes of each viewer that makes Clark less for not falling head over heels at the first sign of flirtation from Lois Lane? I think it is simply because she carries the name Lois Lane that all think it must be.

That entire post contradicting, biased and personal dissection. Rant about people doing what you are doing now. It’s hypocrisy. Revealing your own shipper status, and interest. In bride, was it not Clark who grabbed Lois's hand, was in not Clark who began dancing with her, was it not Clark also gazing into her eyes. This is not one-sided. Lois does love Clark. There is a lot to her character, she is ashamed to show real love as if if were a vulnerability, a weakness. And there’s more to the character then just the name.

The previous episodes before the Lana arc showed that Lois and Clark had been through a lot together, bloodline, instinct, toxic, committed. Dude, it pays to pay attention. And Lana left Clark to wonder, to hurt watching her dear jane video over and over again. She could've returned a long time ago, could’ve called him, but chose to selfishly pursue power. You don't understand Lana's desire for strength and it was nothing to do with Clark. The writers have been stressing that desire for several seasons now.

And If you think because Durance carries the Lois Lane title is the only reason people like her, shows your narrowed vision on the character. and overall perception, rather misconception. It also shows that you mentally chose clana over the arrival of Lois and didn't bother to learn of that character, otherwise you wouldn't have made such an assuming statement. You would know what fans see in the character. Give the writers/actors some credit because they got that one right, to a degree, details, details. Furthermore, because Durance held the name, people paid more attention ro the character, yes, naturally. But, to like her, she had to make it believable, and had to put character into the role. Why do you think they added Lois in the first place? The Lois Lane persona is likable in-general, she has a likable spunky personality, mentally strong, independent, and is what a lot of people felt the show was missing. The writers gave her a great storyline, background following the comics with Sam Lane. But if you're hating on her, you can't see the significance of her character on smallville.

Chloe is another example, even though she is an original character, she has most of the comic book traits of Lana Lang and the investigating tenacity of Lois Lane.

SV Lana is the one who is out of character.

And SV Clark never gave up his powers. period. He was punished by Jor-El and his powers were stripped. Also, some fans prefer Chloe over Lana, showing they just don't like SV lana’s character. And that’s funny, because Chloe best represents comic book Lana. It’s about personality and preference.


Was Clark supposed to fall head over heels for Lois Lane who most of the series has insulted him on every occassion?

Now this question is funny, because it’s classic comical banter, and they are both guilty of it. But it serves a purpose, quoting from episodes.

Oliver: Yeah. This is funny. You know, the way Lois talked about you, I thought you were going to be a little bit more---

Lois: I could use some water.

Clark: A little more what?

Oliver: Well...

Clark: Of a geek?

Lois: Well, you're not exactly jumping the velvet ropes at nightclubs so...

Clark: It's really nice to see that Lois has found someone who can really overlook her personality.

Oliver: Oh, don't worry about it, Clark. If I lived under the same roof with such a beautiful woman, I probably masked my feelings with sarcasm, too.

----

Lana: "You and Lois."

Clark: "Lois? She's bossy. She's stuck up, she's rude. I can't stand her."

Lana: "The best ones always start that way."

That's the mythos of Clark Kent Lois Lane. It simply just now getting started.

[newfamfan]

Once again I hear the term Mythos...which everyone says is 70 years of Lois and Clark. I do agree. I think he will move on to Lois eventually. BUT now I'm hearing that Lois fell in love with Clark in the NEW mythos. You can't have it both ways. Either you follow 70 years of mythos where Lois falls for Superman then falls in love with Clark or you have NEW Mythos where there is no 70 years of history. NEW Mythos isn't really MYTHOS because they could make something new going against the grain completely..I'd not call that new mythos. I'd call it a reinterpretation of the Superman story.

I don't care if Lois and Clark end up together. That was not my point at all. I am saying that too many people speak about Lana not being part of the mythos and it ruining everything but seriously the mythos did have Clark and Lana dating in SMALLVILLE.

Those that argue that isn't so..she was just a friend to Clark similar to Chloe. Once again different interpretations of the mythos. YOU can't just pick out the part of the mythos you like and call it mythos. I do know that Lana was Clark's first flight. He told her goodbye to go to a destiny. Or he was left by her due his being needed by the world more.

The NEW mythos have Clark still with feelings for Lana because he was dating her once. So Smallville still is the story of Lana and Clark. That is over with now. Lois and Clark should have sparks now but if we truly want the mythos...call it Metropolis and forget the title Smallville. Because once Lois and Clark go into their history...Smallville is left behind.

Note: I know Clark didn't give up his powers for Lana. BUT Chloe wanted him to try to get them back and Clark refused. He was happy being normal. That is also mythos ...let me explain. Superman always longs for a normal life. Yet, he chooses the world. MORTAL was only showing a young Clark Kent struggling with that. Clark has struggled to be normal since the beginning of this series. He started to give up his powers with Blue Kryptonite to be with Lana but saw that Brainiac needed to be stopped. My point was he was willing to be normal for her. She was willing to be superpowered for him.

This doesn't cheapen Lois and Clark was my whole point entirely. It makes it a differents love story before Lois and Clark. It was Clark and Lana that was the main love story. I feel that if KK had remained on this series. Smallville would have ended with Lana and Clark saying goodbye for the greater destiny. Then if they wanted a spinoff with a jump in the future...go for Clois.

I will reiterate. This was the love story of Lana and Clark. An actress leaving is what drove them to make Lois and Clark spark. In my opinion ONLY! I do not think that Smallville was ever meant to be about Lois and Clark. I think it was going to show some attraction...some hidden feelings. But that is it. To me if they make Lois and Clark happen too soon now..it will cheapen it. But at this point, Lois and Clark are the future not the present in Smallville.

[melissan02]

Am I the only one who thinks it would not only be insulting to Lois but to Lana as well?

Well, I personally don't give a 'hoot' about Lana, but as for Lois---KEEP CLARK FAR AWAY FROM HER!!!! She deserves better than this childish boy!!:mad:

[x THE CHEETAH x]

I'm fully open to the fact Smallville alters tried-and-true storylines that have been around for decades. I don't mind that Clark has met members of the future Justice League so early in his life... I don't even mind that they re-formulated the origins of Lex Luthor and Superman's life-long battles... making them begin as young friends, rather than adult enemies.

I don't mind such storylines, because in essence, the characters themselves are still who they are... For example, Oliver Queen is still the Green Arrow who fights for good and Lex Luthor is still the ultimate mastermind of evil power... how they became who they are is a lot different than the known histories, but it's still cool... I still enjoy it.

HOWEVER,... with that said... they've now changed a significant, possibly the most significant, aspect of Superman lore... his one-and-only true love for Lois Lane. Even though the show has Clark and Lana Lang going their separate ways, the way in which they did so has allowed their love for each other to continue... nothing has been closed and in fact they make it seem that Clark's love for Lana Lang is even stronger now. This fact totally undermines Lois Lane's significance... which I feel is crossing the line. Weakening Lois Lane's significance should've never happened... and that's exactly what Smallville has done by not ending the Lana Lang relationship appropriately.

Some people write this off as "whatever"... "Smallville always changes things"... but, Smallville has never really changed the actual chemistry of Superman lore. For instance, they didn't bring in Auquaman and say that he's really an evil villain... and they didn't develop the Legion as some future group of terrorists... but, as for Lois Lane, they've pretty much demoted her to "Insignificant Woman that will never hold a candle to Clark's first love". Unless this is some "Earth 2" or alternate universe from the comics, I just think they've crossed the line and went too far.

I know I'm exaggerating on some accounts, but speaking as a guy who has grown up on Superman (I watched Superman the Movie in the theaters when I was 5 years old), I'm just a little perturbed (I can't believe I just used that word) about how Smallville has dealt with something so significant as Clark Kent's ultimate love for Lois Lane.

[LoisJoanneKent]

I couldn't agree with you more. They made it seem like Lana was the true love of his life-the one that got away. It makes it seem like is she were to suddenly come back after Clark is with Lois, that he would leave Lois to be with her, and that is something that actually happened, but in the real Superman mythos, nothing is strong enough to tear him away from Lois. They really messed up with the mythos bad!

[x THE CHEETAH x]

I couldn't agree with you more. They made it seem like Lana was the true love of his life-the one that got away. It makes it seem like is she were to suddenly come back after Clark is with Lois, that he would leave Lois to be with her, and that is something that actually happened, but in the real Superman mythos, nothing is strong enough to tear him away from Lois. They really messed up with the mythos bad!

Yeah, "shaking-up" a few mythos here and there is understandable... but, completely destroying a mythos... that's just crossing the line and is a slap-in-the-face to many who watch Smallville because they're actual Superman fans.

[Clana Kent]

go read comic books or watch superman... when are you realize this is smallville ...
I agree completely with you!

I didn't like the ending when I first watched it, but I'm starting to really like it!
I'm loving the show even more than I did before! :) I hope we'll get some real closure though..

I wish they could just screw the mythos and let Clark live with Lana.. They are so great together! I honestly doubt Clark and Lois will ever live up to that (in this series)!

Clana <3

Clark and Lois don't deserve each other... I mean, what does Lois have to offer Clark and what does Clark have to offer Lois? They are so different from each other! I hope they won't become lovers in the remaining episodes of season 8. Let this 'relationship' stop before it gets too unbelievable!
They can 'Clois' all they want in S9, but I'll simply won't watch :) (except if Lana guest stars of course)

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How many times am I going to have to say this?

In the newer mythos, Lois DOES fall in love with CLARK, not his superhero persona. Read up on it.
So you're saying the mythos change all the time?
Then they should just change it to Clark and Lana being soulmates! As they ARE imo...!

[costas22]

I will say one thing.They damaged the Clois that they were carefully putting together.However if there was the possility of Lana returning then they shouldn't have started Clois.Lana has been part of the show twice as much as Lois and to be honest Tom and Kristin have slightly better chemistry than Tom and Erica(it's natural since they have been doing it for 8 years).In the Smallville universe Clark and Lana have had a very powerful relationship and watching their final scene together it's easy to see why.So it's not a matter of Lois not fitting at all in the picture.It was a matter of horrible timing by PS3.They should have either brought Lana back at the start of season 8 or never brought her back.

[Clana4Life]

I will say one thing.They damaged the Clois that they were carefully putting together.However if there was the possility of Lana returning then they shouldn't have started Clois.Lana has been part of the show twice as much as Lois and to be honest Tom and Kristin have slightly better chemistry than Tom and Erica(it's natural since they have been doing it for 8 years).In the Smallville universe Clark and Lana have had a very powerful relationship and watching their final scene together it's easy to see why.So it's not a matter of Lois not fitting at all in the picture.It was a matter of horrible timing by PS3.They should have either brought Lana back at the start of season 8 or never brought her back.

Or never started any potential Clois romance until after she was gone. It is what it is now. The leading lady in SV was always KK (Lana Lang). Nothing can be done about that now. You still have a strong Lois in the movies and comics and a strong Lana on SV. I think there's enough cake for everyone.

[petitemimi]

I don't see why that awful Lana arc cheapened Clois. So, he loved Lana and he will love Lois. Almost everyone had more than one love in their life. And he will have sex with Lois without all that complicated bs about powers. Because true love is much simpler than that.

[Die Clana! Die]

Or never started any potential Clois romance until after she was gone. It is what it is now. The leading lady in SV was always KK (Lana Lang). Nothing can be done about that now. You still have a strong Lois in the movies and comics and a strong Lana on SV. I think there's enough cake for everyone.

Whatever. Lana has always been a victim and she left the show a victim. Good riddance. The whole Clana arc in this season was so contrived and out of place, it broke down the whole momentum this season was building. Clark had moved on, he got a job, he was saving the world and in one fell swoop that was all destroyed by the one who must be loved.

Maybe their last breakup would have meant something and maybe it would have been emotional if Lana hadn't been an evil basket-case only a one season ago. Or maybe if she hadn't married and bedded Lex Luthor or shacked up with Bizzaro. Or maybe if they hadn't broken up before about a dozen times.

Lana Lang. What a joke. :cool:

[thehenry89]

So you're saying the mythos change all the time?
Then they should just change it to Clark and Lana being soulmates! As they ARE imo...!

because they are not soulmates lois and clark are soulmates, it's been shown over and over and over, and continues to be shown to this very day. Pick up a comic, those two can't keep their hands off each other, and lana is...nothing.

[KneelBeforeZod!]

k. i've read everyone, and I beg to differ.

I've been thinking, Clana would have always had a darkness to it. Lana's own parents were killed by the meteor shower that brought Clark to earth. She would always have a certain antipathy to anything kryptonian (brainiac, the phanton zoners etc.) and the seeming horrors that come with that planet.

Lois does not have that baggage. Unlike Lana, Lois will fall in love with Superman, the Kryptonian part of Clark that is a hero. Krypton is not going to be seen as a reminder of something horrible to Lois. Rather it has offered earth the ultimate hero. Lois is not going to be loving Clark despite him being an alien. She falls in love with the alien in him!

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furthermore, Clana's breakup was Lana's own doing. She reached for power even after being warned and ended up (literally) hurting the man she loved.

Lois isn't going to be reaching for power at all cost. She will let Superman be Superman and be comfortable enough in her own skin to know that her humanity is enough for him. no need to be SuperLois and equal to Clark!

[zanaamen]

I agree completely with you!

I didn't like the ending when I first watched it, but I'm starting to really like it!
I'm loving the show even more than I did before! :) I hope we'll get some real closure though..

I wish they could just screw the mythos and let Clark live with Lana.. They are so great together! I honestly doubt Clark and Lois will ever live up to that (in this series)!

Clana <3

Clark and Lois don't deserve each other... I mean, what does Lois have to offer Clark and what does Clark have to offer Lois? They are so different from each other! I hope they won't become lovers in the remaining episodes of season 8. Let this 'relationship' stop before it gets too unbelievable!
They can 'Clois' all they want in S9, but I'll simply won't watch :) (except if Lana guest stars of course)



So you're saying the mythos change all the time?
Then they should just change it to Clark and Lana being soulmates! As they ARE imo...!


I completely agree with your comment. the last word that Clark said was "I love you"
and he almost got himself killed for one kiss

[Deana]

It didn't cheapen Clois in the long run, just the Clois they was building this season. Who honestly thought they would let that happen? When Clark is really in love with Lois, which is just an attraction at this point in Smallville, and they bring Lana in and pull this same load of crap, then I shall be really pissed.

Any Clois (when they finally come together) I have seen still owns this Clana in Smallville. I see Smallville Clana as a bad romance that took itself way too seriously.

[geminis]

The mythos hasn't changed at all, only the order in which the two principal players (Lois and Clark) fall in love. They ALWAYS fall in love with each other.

The last eight years have shown me why Clark and Lana will never ever be soul mates and the last four why Lois and Clark are and will always be. Imho.

[zanaamen]

The mythos hasn't changed at all, only the order in which the two principal players (Lois and Clark) fall in love. They ALWAYS fall in love with each other.

The last eight years have shown me why Clark and Lana will never ever be soul mates and the last four why Lois and Clark are and will always be. Imho.

ok, but how about Clark’s dream, is lois or lana??

[thehenry89]

ok, but how about Clark’s dream, is lois or lana??

It was lana, but things change just ask alcia ;)

[unfocused]

It was lana, but things change just ask alcia ;)

who?

[thehenry89]

who?

alicia, the teleporting meteor freak who clark also loved, but forgot just as quickly.

[Larel]

The world knows the Superman Legend & that legend has an EPIC love story which is CLOIS!!!!!!!!!!!:p

End of story!:rolleyes:


Ask anyone about the Superman tale & say "who was Clark Kent's true love?" & the answer will always be LOIS!

For god sake they created an entire TV show about the CLOIS love story with Lois & Clark so I think we know who the real couple will always be!

[thehenry89]

The world knows the Superman Legend & that legend has an EPIC love story which is CLOIS!!!!!!!!!!!:p

End of story!:rolleyes:


Ask anyone about the Superman tale & say "who was Clark Kent's true love?" & the answer will always be LOIS!

For god sake they created an entire TV show about the CLOIS love story with Lois & Clark so I think we know who the real couple will always be!

ITA which is why what little happiness clana may have had is nothing compared to what clois will have, and have had since 1938.

[Die Clana! Die]

Clois is not cheapened in my opinion not at all. The only thing that was cheapened was Clana. I mean, how many gimmicks does that relationship need, and it still doesn't work. What a joke. Soulmates end up together no matter what, the universe is on their side not against it. :lol:

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ok, but how about Clark’s dream, is lois or lana??

It's Lois all the way. He just doesn't know it yet. He said his dream was to be with somebody who would work side by side with him, as his partner. Well guess who that person will be? Not Lana Luthor. Not by a long shot.

[Larel]

ITA which is why what little happiness clana may have had is nothing compared to what clois will have, and have had since 1938.



Exactly, Lana was Clark's first love, kind of like a "transitional" love as he grew into a man then he was able to find his "true love" in Lois when he became the man he was always destined to be!;)

[zanaamen]

Alcia and the red kryptonite??
I think Lois have to act like alcia to won Clark’s love :D or maybe force him to be with him

[Die Clana! Die]

Alcia and the red kryptonite??
I think Lois have to act like alcia to won Clark’s love :D or maybe force him to be with him

Clois doesn't need a stupid gimmick like Clana. I mean, those two have tried everything under the sun to make this doomed relationship work. I mean Lana wasn't good enough until she stole super kryptonite skin from Clarks nemesis? Wow. Talk about insecurity issues.

Lois will be good enough for the man of steal just the way she is. Because she is Lois and their love is written in the stars. It's not doomed from the start like Clana. Like I said, if they are supposed to be soulmates than nothing would have been able to tear them apart. Just like nothing will tear Clois apart once they get together. :D

[Larel]

Clois is not cheapened in my opinion not at all. The only thing that was cheapened was Clana. I mean, how many gimmicks does that relationship need, and it still doesn't work. What a joke. Soulmates end up together no matter what, the universe is on their side not against it. :lol:

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It's Lois all the way. He just doesn't know it yet. He said his dream was to be with somebody who would work side by side with him, as his partner. Well guess who that person will be? Not Lana Luthor. Not by a long shot.


That's a good point, who is the woman who ends up working side by side with Clark?
Lois of course & the fact that Clark was NOT willing to walk away from his destiny & LET Lana take that massive does of Kryptonite proves that he was not willing to give up everything to be with her!

Therefore they were never fated or destined to be with each other, Clark knew he had bigger things he had to do than simply be with Lana & not even his love for her could tear him away from that!


The fact that Lois is the one that ends up with him & helping him as they work side by side proves that he never needed a woman to have SUPER power's to be his equal!

LOIS LANE didn't need to have Superpowers to be Clark's "equal" since his love for her was more powerful than that!

LANA LANG felt the only way she could be with Clark was when she had those power's & if that is the only way she felt like his equal then their love was never strong enough to begin with & would have never lasted anyway!;)

[unfocused]

ITA which is why what little happiness clana may have had is nothing compared to what clois will have, and have had since 1938.

You do realize that there may not even be enough time to develop Clois into anything close to what we see in the comics, right? If the series ends this season, there will have never been any Clois in Smallville. So better hope for a season 9 ;)

[k852]

Maybe this Lois and Chloe will help Clark become a super man! Something drastic has to happen for this Clark to become the man we all love. Once he breaks out of his stupor, he'll realize that he never loved Lana, it was only the idea of loving her.

[Larel]

Alcia and the red kryptonite??
I think Lois have to act like alcia to won Clark’s love :D or maybe force him to be with him


Huh have you read & watched the Superman tale?:\
Lois doesn't need to force Clark to be with her at all, he was infatuated & intensely drawn to her almost from the beginning!

[k852]

You do realize that there may not even be enough time to develop Clois into anything close to what we see in the comics, right? If the series ends this season, there will have never been any Clois in Smallville. So better hope for a season 9 ;)

Or a new series with a real Superman that can fly!;)

[zanaamen]

If comics and superman didnt exist I’m sure the story will be so different
but the writers didnt have a choice

[Die Clana! Die]

Maybe this Lois and Chloe will help Clark become a super man! Something drastic has to happen for this Clark to become the man we all love. Once he breaks out of his stupor, he'll realize that he never loved Lana, it was only the idea of loving Lana.

Yeah, like Scarlett O'Hara realized she'd never really loved Ashley, just the idea of him. All the while she loved Rhett Butler. :D

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If comics and superman didnt exist I’m sure the story will be so different
but the writers didnt have a choice

If the comics didn't exist there would be no Smallville. :rolleyes:

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LOIS LANE didn't need to have Superpowers to be Clark's "equal" since his love for her was more powerful than that!

LANA LANG felt the only way she could be with Clark was when she had those power's & if that is the only way she felt like his equal then their love was never strong enough to begin with & would have never lasted anyway!;)

Exactly. That relationship has been doomed and poisoned from every which side, it is riddled with cancer. There is no way it could have survived more than a few months. What a joke. :rolleyes:

[zanaamen]

If SV all about comics then after Lois died Clark and Lana were getting back to gather

[bigvillir001]

clark tried to tell her that wearing the suit could be dangerous she relly didnt listen and now that suit has no now power and will probaby slowy break down her body in time but it wa her choice

Lana did this to herself to have revange against Lex and to make herself equal to Clark. Now to be someones true equal you expecpt the person for who they are as person you never change that and i think lana lost site of his by using the suit she being selfish by using the suit and thats not being wqual at all.

I can understand why she thought it was their only why to be togeter love can be blind so they and it true it can be. but love shoulnt be forced. But in the end Lana made this choice she hurt him far worste then then the dvd video even if she did save millions of people at great cost to her and to clark.

Clark will now believe his destined to be alone he will probably work extra hard to dull the pain this doesnt Cheapen Clois because all they have is friendship right now and their feels for each other are still deep inside so i dont ththink a romianice is in the cards just yet but their friendship is the stronest thing they have right now i dont think they want to loose something so important to both of them

[tbird4u]

If SV all about comics then after Lois died Clark and Lana were getting back to gather

I guess that would make lana his second choice huh??;)

[Timester]

If SV all about comics then after Lois died Clark and Lana were getting back to gather

Wrong.

That's ONE Elseworld, the Superman/Batman Generations. The official version of the future is DC One Million, where Superman clones Lois and both become Supreme Beings. And even with DC One Million being on limbo since Infinite Crisis, there are plenty of Elseworlds where Clark ends up with Diana, not Lana. Like KC Superman.

[zanaamen]

If the suit was for make herself equal to Clark, she goes to the sunset and making another kisses and hugs with Clrak

[Tinyeppy]

I pray it wasn't cheapen. But I fear it has been b/c I don't like the path it's going to start after last episode. Some healing, maturing and training has to take place before Clois goes on. I want to see the "Man of Steel". I'm tired of this emotionally fickle CK expect your destiny and MOVE ON ALREADY....

If TPTB can gloify CLANA for 8yrs so much I would love to see who they plan to plunge it into obilvion with the illustriously relationship of CLOIS so Lana Lang will never measure up Lois Lane. It will be otterly impossible it's a proven fact Lois Lane is Clark soulmate and Clark is complete devoted to her.

The Greatest Love he well ever have it was meant to be it was written.

With Lana knowing & expect it. She had her chance and screwed it up. Expect it & MOVE ON.

Of course they TPTB & PS3 have this season and next season & I'm not sure if this is enough time to make be believe anything CK has to say to Lois at this time.


A Disappointed Superman Fan :(

[unfocused]

Or a new series with a real Superman that can fly!;)

There isn't going to be a new Superman series any time soon, sorry.

[Larel]

I guess that would make lana his second choice huh??;)




:lol: Bingo!


Also anyone want to bet that if Lana were to return once Clark has fallen in love with Lois that he would drop Lois & go back to Lana...........NOT A CHANCE!

Once Clark falls under Lois Lane's spell it's "Lana who, oh yeah isn't she that little human ball of Kryptonite that gives me a headache whenever I go near her":p

[zanaamen]

I guess that would make lana his second choice huh??;)


NO, that means he never get over lana and bkuz the first love is the first choice huh

[Die Clana! Die]

If SV all about comics then after Lois died Clark and Lana were getting back to gather

Lois won't die on Smallville. But if we're talking about the comics, than I'll tell you when Lois dies Superman goes into exile in the core of the sun. There he remains until the world really needs him. When he comes back he clones Lois and makes her imortal and they live happily ever after together forever. Lana? She just dies. :cool:

[zanaamen]

Lois won't die on Smallville. But if we're talking about the comics, than I'll tell you when Lois dies Superman goes into exile in the core of the sun. There he remains until the world really needs him. When he comes back he clones Lois and makes her imortal and they live happily ever after together forever. Lana? She just dies. :cool:


thank u good story,:rotfl:

[Die Clana! Die]

NO, that means he never get over lana and bkuz the first love is the first choice huh

So, when Oliver finally falls for the Black Cannery, that makes her 2nd choice? I don't think so. Green Arrow and Back Cannery get married, they are each other's soulmates and what happened before with Lois and Tess doesn't really matter.

Same thing with the comics and Clois. Superman fell in love and proposed to Lori Lemaris, but circumstances wouldn't let them be together. That never meant when he fell for Lois that she was somehow his second choice. It just means he had a life before her, as she did before him. It's only logical and natural.

I loved my first love a lot. But would I want to marry her now? I don't think so.

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thank u good story,:rotfl:

Yeah, great story actually. Pick up some comics and read it for yourself. I'm sure you'll love it. ;)

[tbird4u]

NO, that means he never get over lana and bkuz the first love is the first choice huh

Wrong again, If lana Is in fact the love of his life, once she was kryptonite ridden he would of left lois...huh??;) Besides no one compares to lois and clois anyway!

[yes2destiny]

I think all of this arguing about Clana being the real deal versus Clois is funny. I don't think one side is ever going to be convinced. I mean, let's face it, Clana went on for seven freakin' years. If you're staying onboard this ship for that long, then there's probably very little chance you're jumping it.

I personally love the romance between Lois and Clark in all mediums. They are, and I hate to sound cliched, "iconic." Even people who don't read comics or watch the show know about Lois Lane and Clark Kent. Smallville is not going to change that.

People saying that the mythos should change, that we should try something different illustrates a disturbing trend - it's like that Hyundai commercial: come on, what ever happened to commitment!?! 70 years of Lois and Clark? That's a very long time. I was deeply offended when Mary Jane and Peter Parker divorced so that Peter Parker could try life as a single, and there would be more drama. Please! (I hope they get back together). It's like doing a sequel to Pride and Prejudice and having Darcy and Elizabeth split up, or Benedict and Beatrice from Much Ado About Nothing. Granted, Superman is technically not "literature," but the idea is the same. We have this couple who have existed in written form and in visual form for generations, before many of the viewers of Smallville were even born (me included). But what makes a pair iconic, I guess, is how it transcends generations. And Lois and Clark just do. Their strength together is hopeful, they're sticking by one another is inspiring - it can't be replaced or tainted just because of 21st century melodrama.

I'm not angry - this is just how I feel about them. Period. :)

[Tinyeppy]

:lol: Bingo!


Also anyone want to bet that if Lana were to return once Clark has fallen in love with Lois that he would drop Lois & go back to Lana...........NOT A CHANCE!

Once Clark falls under Lois Lane's spell it's "Lana who, oh yeah isn't she that little human ball of Kryptonite that gives me a headache whenever I go near her":p


ITA! This is the way it has to be. CK will know without a doubt that CLANA was a fluke and CLOIS is his destiny, soulmate, a proven fact, no one can't deny it.

This is the prefect place to bring the Kawache caves and bracelet back into play. But will they do it? We will have to see. But that Lana has to realize she's not & was never the one it has to be done. I'm tired of her thinking she's it & Clark will never move on.

[geminis]

Clois doesn't need a stupid gimmick like Clana. I mean, those two have tried everything under the sun to make this doomed relationship work. I mean Lana wasn't good enough until she stole super kryptonite skin from Clarks nemesis? Wow. Talk about insecurity issues.

Lois will be good enough for the man of steal just the way she is. Because she is Lois and their love is written in the stars. It's not doomed from the start like Clana. Like I said, if they are supposed to be soulmates than nothing would have been able to tear them apart. Just like nothing will tear Clois apart once they get together. :D

You have been making some terrific spot on observations. I didn't ask for help, but thanks anyway, especially when it is so super!

The music by Vast at the end of Bride pinpoints the two relationships for me:

Clois: "it's the kind of thing you get when you're not looking, it's the kind of thing you had from the start..."

Clana: "Put me on a ship that is sinking... take away the freedoms I wanted, I understand... inside flesh that is dying... buried by desires and weakness"

Only with Clois do they fit these lyrics: "Don't take your love away from me,".

I'm not saying that Clark and Lana didn't truly love each other, but it's never been a healthy love. Because of that, Clois could never be cheapened.

[Mickey_Bickey]

'Tis better to be a man's last love than to be his first!

I've said it before the only thing cheapened were the scripts for these episodes. Lois Lane has no competition.

It's like Grant said to her in one episode when Lois said she worked for the "Inquisitor" the DP's competition, and Grant said, "NO, we have no competition"!

The legendary Lois Lane, love of Superman's life has no competition. Others pale in comparison.....end of story.



I'm going to pretend this foolish arc never happend.:lol:

[geminis]

Fellow twin, well said.

My mindwipe concurs without the pretence, heh heh.

[Minela]

Clois can never be cheapened. It is written in the stars. Accept no imitations *caugh* Clana *caugh*

[Timester]

I was deeply offended when Mary Jane and Peter Parker divorced so that Peter Parker could try life as a single, and there would be more drama. Please! (I hope they get back together).

It was worse than a divorce, their relationship was deleted from everyone's mind by Mephisto.

Yes, I hate One More Day.

[Minela]

Yes, I hate One More Day.

Same here. :(

[yes2destiny]

It was worse than a divorce, their relationship was deleted from everyone's mind by Mephisto.

Yes, I hate One More Day.

Wow! I did not know that. I just saw it in an article one day and thought, "What?!" Sucks for MJ and Peter fans, but even they weren't going as long as Lois and Clark.

Smallville hasn't cheapened them. They simply made it look like Clark hasn't really grown up. But as some have pointed out, he's not in love with Lois yet. Once he is, I think the writers will make it clear that Lana will not be in an option, without or without the Kryptonite. But who knows, maybe we won't even see a Lois/Clark relationship on the show, especially if there is no season 9.

[Kal26]

The last two episodes have literally made me sick to my stomach. They have taken the greatest relationship the dcu has ever known (Lois Lane and Clark Kent), and turned it in to a rebound for the man of steel who physically can't be within ten feet of the girl he wants, Lana Lang. Not only have they put Lana on a pedestal as far as Clark's feeling are concerned, but they've also made her a hero, who at least in the last episode, has better moral values than Clark. What are these people's problems? Why is it so hard for them to get off Lana Lang, and finish what I believed to be the greatest Superman story ever told? It's going to be very hard for them to come back from this in my opinion. They've tainted the entire series for me now, and I'm kind of scared to see where it's going to go next. :mad:

[geminis]

I had heard that appalling fact about Peter and MJ. I consider myself a Spidey fan, but when that happened, it sold me on my greater love of Lois and Big Blue.

It's been mentioned before, but it is also some kind of crazy that Clark was dressed like Bizarro while he was with Lana in Requiem. Are they telling us something???

[Alicia Chipy]

I want Lois to make sure he is not toying with her feelings.Clark will have to WORK to earn her love and respect again.

[myankskent]

I want Lois to make sure he is not toying with her feelings.Clark will have to WORK to earn her love and respect again.

Unless Lois finds out that Clark decided to get back together with Lana and broke up because of kryptonite, Lois will have no reason to act distant to Clark. She might give him the cold shoulder because of his reaction when Lana came back, but things got a lot worse than that after Lois left.

[Kal-ed]

Im going with the spaghetti cat aproach on this, if PS3 are moving on and pretending this clana arc never happened, then so will I...

As for Clois being tainted, Ive given it a lot of thought and I dont feel that way anymore, this clana drama has nothing to do with Clois, yes Clark and Lana cant be together, so what? That does not mean Lois is second best, some Clana fans can choose to believe that, in fact they need to cause its all the Clana they will ever have, I on the other hand dont have to fanwank my way into Clana being soulmates so I choose not to.

[drvr8]

The only way guys get over break ups is to go out and bang anything and everything that moves! i.e. Ollie.

[Tinyeppy]

Lois has way too much pride to let herself be anyone's rebound or "consolation prize" - even Superman's.

ITA! With witnessing CLANA there's no way she will ever allow herself be a consolation prize or 2nd best. Lois Lane as got a lot of dignity.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

The last two episodes have literally made me sick to my stomach. They have taken the greatest relationship the dcu has ever known (Lois Lane and Clark Kent), and turned it in to a rebound for the man of steel who physically can't be within ten feet of the girl he wants, Lana Lang. Not only have they put Lana on a pedestal as far as Clark's feeling are concerned, but they've also made her a hero, who at least in the last episode, has better moral values than Clark. What are these people's problems? Why is it so hard for them to get off Lana Lang, and finish what I believed to be the greatest Superman story ever told? It's going to be very hard for them to come back from this in my opinion. They've tainted the entire series for me now, and I'm kind of scared to see where it's going to go next. :mad:

I have to agree with you... on all accounts.

[clarkbunny]

Lois will not be happy to learn of all the goings on with Clark and Lana while she was away. She might be Clark's shoulder to cry on but I don't see her volunteering herself for a relationship with Clark knowing that he is still in love with Lana.
Clark is no way ready to be chasing Lois when she returns, that would be in poor taste.
The only way I see things going now is Lois turning off her feelings for Clark and Clark slowly realising his feelings for Lois.

[Clana4Life]

I don't think the writers have a problem. Just because they don't write the story the way you may like doesn't mean they have a problem. It means they have their own agenda, thoughts, opinions and they decide to go with that not the wishes, dreams and hopes of some fans.
To answer the OP's question. Is Clois cheapened? Well, yes, if you hold to the comics for your source material and no if you don't hold to the comics. Clois will never be comic book Clois on this show. There isn't enough time, unless you want it rushed or lightswitched - particularly if this is the last season. Then no, you won't get your comic book Clois story. But that was never TPTB's aim in the first place. They said that Clana was the heart of the show and that's what they focused on. Knowing that, it's pretty hard to get mad at them for something they told fans from the beginning. Clois is whatever it is in the comics and movies, but on Smallville it's a secondary story - B-plot. It was not the writers' focus. You have the Adventures of Lois & Clark for your comic story, but Smallville is not that story.

[susangail]

Yes, that's the corner the writers have painted themselves into.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

The legendary Lois Lane, love of Superman's life has no competition. Others pale in comparison.....end of story.



.:lol:

When all is said and done, that's the simple truth... well said.

[scifigirl]

It seems like they took an arc that was intended to be part of Season 7 and inserted it into mid season 8. Why they did this is beyond my comprehension. They shouldn't have brought KK back at all this season. It was a horrible idea to insert a Clana star crossed lovers story in the middle of this season. In terms of how actual human emotions work, Clark should be ruined for any other woman at this point. Maybe, Maybe , if this had played out at the end of season 7, Clois would have worked because of the time jump between 7 and 8.

So to answer the op's question, Yes, it would not only be in poor taste for him to hit on Lois, it would be unbelievable. I think even the flirtatious banter would be unbelievable and in poor taste. However, given how the writers swept Alicia, Kyla and Raya under the rug , my prediction is that Lana will never be mentioned again. They don't have a choice. Since KK is gone they can't resolve this. They will have to gloss over it. History says that they will and Lana will probably never be mentioned again.

[BULLITT]

1) The show is a 'version' of the early years of Clark Kent.
2) It gave a reason as to why his first love, is no longer in his adult life.
3) The vast majority of adults will always remember their first love, that doesn't mean they'd drop their current love interest for an old flame - it's called growing-up.

[Sunny8]

This is SV where character's and events change from episode to episode, so I voted "No, Lois returns, Clark forgets Lana ever existed, sounds good to me!". I mean they already ruined Clark/Superman at this point so why not just get back on track to where they were before the Lana5arc interrupted and ruined this good season? If they do allow Lois and Clark to carry on like Lana never was there then I would be happy with that. Like the characters and writer's, I'll also pretend that Super Lana didn't happen, all the events involving Lana in 'Bride-Requiem' didn't happen, that the "Dear John" video she gave to Clark was her final communication with Clark, that Clark has finally gotten over her, that Clark has developing feelings for Lois and that she has a budding love for him. Business as usual I say;).

[Night-Wolf]

Yeah I think it would be in very bad taste to have Clark hit on Lois right after what in Requiem. I think that sould only happen at least until Hex, or even later if there'll be a season 9.

[amberdawn]

So you're saying the mythos change all the time?
Then they should just change it to Clark and Lana being soulmates! As they ARE imo...!

:rotfl:


The NEW mythos have Clark still with feelings for Lana because he was dating her once.
Uh, no. He loves her a SISTER.

[newfamfan]

Uh, no. He loves her a SISTER.


I don't know what you're reading...I said NEW mythos. Clark is very much an ex of Lana Lang's. That might be a little sick of him if he thought of her as a sister.

[BlackLotus1786]

I voted no, but I put an asterisk by that vote. It all depends on how the writers portray the interaction between the two. Anything short of some declaration of love/other related emotions by Clark is pretty much fine and dandy.

While the end to the Lana/Clark arc was the opposite of ideal, it doesn't change the fact that his feelings for Lois were there the whole time, even though Clark hadn't realized their meaning by the end of 'Bride'. When Lana returned, his feelings for her (which have a greater influence, due to all the history) simply masked whatever feelings he was developing for Lois.

If Clark comes out in the next episode saying that he's interested in Lois, that would suggest Clark's feelings developed beyond the point they were at in Bride, which would be impossible with the distraction provided by Lana. Such a turn of events would be in complete bad taste and would validate not only my asterisk, but also a lot of fans' fears that Lois is now the second choice as far as Smallville is concerned.

However, if Clark and Lois come out and interact with each other in the same manner they did in the first ten episodes of the eighth season, nothing would be amiss. There would be no suggestion of his feelings developing further amidst immensely distracting influences. If the almost kiss comes up, I wouldn't be surprised to see them dismiss that as a product of wedding-enhanced emotions. They certainly wouldn't be the first couple to do that, fictional or otherwise. After rationalizing away the near liplock, the Clois dynamic is free to pick up where it left off without making Lois look like second best or Clark look fickle to the point of being a jerk.

[zHeN_zHeN]

He better not make a move on her. Hmph.

[amberdawn]

Um, I'm not sure what you're reading either, but in the comics, yes, he loves her like a sister, even with their past. He said so himself.

[Kal26]

Yeah, in current comic book continuity Clark never loved Lana as anything but a sister. Here is a quote about new earth (current) Lana Lang from dc database project.
Lana was a childhood friend of Clark, with a certain degree of romantic tension in the air as Lana had long pined after Clark who had loved her only platonically in return. After they graduated from high school Clark took Lana on a private walk, saying that he had to tell her something important, which Lana honestly expected to be a marriage proposal. He then divulged to her that he had superpowers, displayed by flying her around the state, before explaining that he felt he had to leave Smallville to help humanity as a whole. Kissing her goodbye "like a brother," Lana was left in considerable shock, not only over the revelation of Clark's superpowers, but also over the final realization that he held no reciprocal romantic feelings towards her, leaving Lana heartbroken and alone. This is the relationship between Lana and Clark in current comics, and has been for some time.

[Dominicus]

I don't know what you're reading...I said NEW mythos. Clark is very much an ex of Lana Lang's. That might be a little sick of him if he thought of her as a sister.No she was like a sister to him, however she on the other hand had a Chloe kind of attachment to Clark. He did not share those feelings.

[Estro-gen X]

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we are surprised by this turn of events?

[smallvillerocks45]

LoL! Those are funny Estro-gen X. Thank you for sharing them.
They remind me that at the end of the day, I love a show that is based off of a comic book - but oh how I love that show.

[Estro-gen X]

comic books are cool. They can be absolutely hilarious.

[Drasix]

The fact of the matter is that clark has loved lana since he was in the first grade.Has been obsessed with her since the very first episode.Theres no way they can make me believe he belongs with lois after 7 and half seasons of non-stop lana lusting.They've spent way too much time developing the clana relationship to have him forget all about her in a couple of episodes.The truth is that they have put so much into the clana relationship that it wouldnt make sense to see clark wind up with lois.Yes the comics say clark is supposed to end up with lois but THIS ISNT THE COMICS!

[bigblueplanet]

My answer is yes.

But I’m very curious to see where PS3 goes from here. Because if they do it wrong, not only they cheapen Clois, but they’ll end up cheapening Clana, too. JMO

[Jaderoyale]

If PS3 do it right and we can believe it, it should be fine.
If not? Well, they're idiots then.

[Estro-gen X]

The fact of the matter is that clark has loved lana since he was in the first grade.Has been obsessed with her since the very first episode.Theres no way they can make me believe he belongs with lois after 7 and half seasons of non-stop lana lusting.They've spent way too much time developing the clana relationship to have him forget all about her in a couple of episodes.The truth is that they have put so much into the clana relationship that it wouldnt make sense to see clark wind up with lois.Yes the comics say clark is supposed to end up with lois but THIS ISNT THE COMICS!

Then what are we doing with this show? What are we aiming for with the story? Clark can't fly...thats OK this isn't the comics! Clark becomes DangerMan...thats OK this isn't the comics! I'm not saying that it has to be 100% true to the comics but certain touchstones need to be hit.

Also the comics don't say he ends up with Lois ;) He's ended up with Wonder Woman and Linda Danvers in the past. Remember Clark is going to outlive Lois and he's been shown to move on after her death and marry and have children. With Linda he just plain chooses her over Lois.

Clois isn't something this show has to bother with if we read the comics. We are lucky to be getting any of that in a show called Smallville. Shippers shouldn't feel disenfranchised by the lack of Clois. That was what the New Adventures of Superman was for in the 90's. This is Smallville, the story of Clark's journey to becoming Superman and Lana is far more important to that story than Lois. Her relationship with Clark really should take precident. I'm not a fan of Kreuk's Lana but I know the priorites. Remember than Lois really shouldn't be in it!

Personally I hope season 9 is relatively shipping free. It does none of the characters any favours. Have Clark date Lori Lemaris who is a water based metoer freak but only have her appear in 7 episodes throughout the season or so. Show Lois and Clark working together well in a professional capacity. We really shouldn't see clois happen, its beyond the scope of the show. Keep it to flirting.:\

[Drasix]

i agree..clois shouldn't happen...just wouldnt make sense after everything thats happened

[myankskent]

Then what are we doing with this show? What are we aiming for with the story?


These are some great questions. I don't know what TPTB are aiming for anymore. Clark is already at the DP. Other than flight, he has all of his powers. His fight with Lex seems to have reached the end. He's about to fight Doomsday this season and has already fought a whole bunch of other villains on this show. Honestly, this show really doesn't have much of a direction to go right now. The longer it goes on, IMO, the greater the chance that more characters are going to get destroyed.

[newfamfan]

Just to bring my point home. The very latest comic featuring Lana Lang has Lana running Luthor Corp. Clark is thinking about the memory of Lana....in this she is his ex.

I still don't know why people can't accept Clark Kent fell deeply in love with Lana Lang in SMALLVILLE. He later falls in love with Lois. But this is SMALLVILLE and this episode didn't damage Superman nor Clois.

Do I want to see a Clois relationship in Smallville? Why lie to please anyone? NO. I don't particular like this version of Lois Lane. However, if they show feelings develop in a tasteful way such as season 9, I will not say they are ruining Superman due to this even after his deep love for Lana.

People can fall in love with someone so deeply but circumstances make them move on such as death, etc. Does that cheapen the first love? NO. Does that cheapen the second? NO.

Lois nor Lana can be seen as the end game to me. Superman will outlive them both...unless one is made immortal. So I'm guessing before comics of Superman, before movies of Superman, and before all the adaptations for television are done....Clark Kent will have some other lovers besides Lois or Lana in some version even if it is elseworld. And why does SV have to follow MYTHOS any way? Because there are enough elseworld or ulternate universes out there regarding Superman. This may just be one of them.

[Timester]

Just to bring my point home. The very latest comic featuring Lana Lang has Lana running Luthor Corp.

Lana was fired from the LexCorp months ago.

[doubtless]

I LOVE CLOIS!! and i think that it will be too soon. Focus on building up Clark to be the Superman he's meant to be.=)

[sharoo]

I LOVED/HATED THIS EPISODE! Lana will forever be CLarks love. Lois is 2nd rate i never liked her and never will. Lets all remember, in the old Lois and Clark series CLARK had and was able to FLY when he got to Metropolis/Daily planet. This series is NOT the same as that one. Everyone needs to realise this. Sucks that Lana and CLark wont be together.... the last scene was so sad and the fact that he kissed her and he was in such PAIN ... THATS TRUE LOVE.

How can you guys blame clark for wanting to kill Lex after he made it impossible for them to be together. I dont blame him at all. And like some of you said... there is no way clark will fall in love with lois that fast and if he does that wouldnt be right. IN the end, Clark and Lana love will always preveil. There is NO WAY in hell that Clark will ever choose Lois over Lana. DId you see how fast Lois was 2nd rate/disposable when Lana came back? THats how it will always be.

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Just to bring my point home. The very latest comic featuring Lana Lang has Lana running Luthor Corp. Clark is thinking about the memory of Lana....in this she is his ex.

I still don't know why people can't accept Clark Kent fell deeply in love with Lana Lang in SMALLVILLE. He later falls in love with Lois. But this is SMALLVILLE and this episode didn't damage Superman nor Clois.

Do I want to see a Clois relationship in Smallville? Why lie to please anyone? NO. I don't particular like this version of Lois Lane. However, if they show feelings develop in a tasteful way such as season 9, I will not say they are ruining Superman due to this even after his deep love for Lana.

People can fall in love with someone so deeply but circumstances make them move on such as death, etc. Does that cheapen the first love? NO. Does that cheapen the second? NO.

Lois nor Lana can be seen as the end game to me. Superman will outlive them both...unless one is made immortal. So I'm guessing before comics of Superman, before movies of Superman, and before all the adaptations for television are done....Clark Kent will have some other lovers besides Lois or Lana in some version even if it is elseworld. And why does SV have to follow MYTHOS any way? Because there are enough elseworld or ulternate universes out there regarding Superman. This may just be one of them.

Good point.

[Drasix]

Just to bring my point home. The very latest comic featuring Lana Lang has Lana running Luthor Corp. Clark is thinking about the memory of Lana....in this she is his ex.

I still don't know why people can't accept Clark Kent fell deeply in love with Lana Lang in SMALLVILLE. He later falls in love with Lois. But this is SMALLVILLE and this episode didn't damage Superman nor Clois.

Do I want to see a Clois relationship in Smallville? Why lie to please anyone? NO. I don't particular like this version of Lois Lane. However, if they show feelings develop in a tasteful way such as season 9, I will not say they are ruining Superman due to this even after his deep love for Lana.

People can fall in love with someone so deeply but circumstances make them move on such as death, etc. Does that cheapen the first love? NO. Does that cheapen the second? NO.

Lois nor Lana can be seen as the end game to me. Superman will outlive them both...unless one is made immortal. So I'm guessing before comics of Superman, before movies of Superman, and before all the adaptations for television are done....Clark Kent will have some other lovers besides Lois or Lana in some version even if it is elseworld. And why does SV have to follow MYTHOS any way? Because there are enough elseworld or ulternate universes out there regarding Superman. This may just be one of them.i agree,smallville doesnt have to follow any of the other superman mythos!So he could end up with anyone really

[x THE CHEETAH x]

i agree..clois shouldn't happen...just wouldnt make sense after everything thats happened

I appreciate your passion for the Clana relationship, but the fact is that Clark Kent and Lois Lane has been and always will be the greatest relationship in the DC Universe... movies, comics, 50+ years of television, and millions of fans across the world know this. This speed bump known as Smallville's version of Lana Lang will be just that... a speed bump that our beloved Superman will still move on from and ultimately be with Lois Lane... his perfect soulmate.

[Drasix]

I appreciate your passion for the Clana relationship, but the fact is that Clark Kent and Lois Lane has been and always will be the greatest relationship in the DC Universe... movies, comics, 50+ years of television, and millions of fans across the world know this. This speed bump known as Smallville's version of Lana Lang will be just that... a speed bump that our beloved Superman will still move on from and ultimately be with Lois Lane... his perfect soulmate.in comic mythos lois is clark's soulmate.This is smallville and doesnt follow any specific mythos.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

i agree,smallville doesnt have to follow any of the other superman mythos!So he could end up with anyone really

That kind of statement is like saying that Superman doesn't really need super strength "because Smallville doesn't need to follow any superman mythos"... or Superman didn't really need to crash land in Smallville and be raised by the Kents, "because they don't need to follow any other superman mythos."

It's okay to shake-up a mythos here and there... but, to completely destroy or ignore critical components of a mythos is crossing the line.

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in comic mythos lois is clark's soulmate.This is smallville and doesnt follow any specific mythos.

Seriously? You're actually saying that Smallville doesn't follow any mythos? Tell me... what's the name of the series?... that's correct, it's the town of Smallville... the city known in the Superman mythos. I could go on and on and on and on....

No offense, but saying Smallville doesn't follow any mythos is incorrect.

[Timester]

i agree,smallville doesnt have to follow any of the other superman mythos!So he could end up with anyone really

Of course it does. It's the END of the story.

You are saying the same that we don't need to help Arthas in Stratholme against the Infinite Dragonflight. You might get it now.

[Drasix]

That kind of statement is like saying that Superman doesn't really need super strength "because Smallville doesn't need to follow any superman mythos"... or Superman didn't really need to crash land in Smallville and be raised by the Kents, "because they don't need to follow any other superman mythos."

It's okay to shake-up a mythos here and there... but, to completely destroy or ignore critical components of a mythos is crossing the line.

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Seriously? You're actually saying that Smallville doesn't follow any mythos? Tell me... what's the name of the series?... that's correct, it's the town of Smallville... the city known in the Superman mythos. I could go on and on and on and on....

No offense, but saying Smallville doesn't follow any mythos is incorrect.i said it doesnt follow any SPECIFIC mythos.Your saying that that smallville has to be exactly like everything youve heard in comics and what not but smallville was gough and millars vision of superman's adolescence not page by page of what the comics say happened

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comics and mythos doesnt control smallville as long as they keep the core things like clarks super powers and the people he grew up around etc,they have plenty of room to explore and create the show as they see fit

[myankskent]

It's okay to shake-up a mythos here and there... but, to completely destroy or ignore critical components of a mythos is crossing the line.


I agree, but that argument needs to apply to everything on Smallville. Therefore, the Clana breakup should never have been played out the way it did.

[Timester]

i said it doesnt follow any SPECIFIC mythos.Your saying that that smallville has to be exactly like everything youve heard in comics and what not but smallville was gough and millars vision of superman's adolescence not page by page of what the comics say happened

Even AlMiles said that Smallville will end up like the mythos.


comics and mythos doesnt control smallville as long as they keep the core things like clarks super powers and the people he grew up around etc,they have plenty of room to explore and create the show as they see fit

Then why Clark and Lana were forced apart? Why is Clark, Lois and Jimmy on the DP? Why is Lex a villain? Why the Legion said us the FUTURE? After Legion, all the the talk about is Smallville part of the mythos or not became pointless. It is part, move along.

[Drasix]

i wouldnt say that being with Lois Lane is a "critical component" of the mythos

[thehenry89]

In general I dislike the whole "Smallville is an alternate universe/re-telling of the superman mythos". Yes it's different in some areas, the kawatche caves, black pete, lois lex, chloe and lionel all being in clark's life, but the fundamentals of the story have been followed pretty much to the letter for example:

Lex Luthour is superman's greatest enemy same in SV.
Superman works with other memebers of the JLA.
Lana Lang knows clarks secret.
Lex kills his father.
Lois lane is a bad speller, a smoker, and a journalist for the daily planet
Jimmy Olsen is a photographer.
clark kent works at the daily planet.

these things are all part of the mythos and now they are part of SV. so to say that SV is not a show about superman is IMO a moot point because in the more recent comics Clark is Superman as opposed to some early renditions where Superman is the real person and Clark is the mask.

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i wouldnt say that being with Lois Lane is a "critical component" of the mythos

I would have to disagree, otherwise there wouldn't be so many comics, movies, and heck a whole TV show devoted to Lois and Clark. Ask anyone on the street who is Superman's girlfriend? the answer ain't gonna be lana lang, or wonder woman, or lori leramis.

[Drasix]

[quote=Timester;4446630]Even AlMiles said that Smallville will end up like the mythos.


you just made my point ..lol...yeah he said "end up like the mythose" theyre not following the mythos page by page is what ive been trying to say.i never said that they dont stay true to the superman lore but they have ventured off the path several times to their unique vision

[myankskent]

Then why Clark and Lana were forced apart? Why is Clark, Lois and Jimmy on the DP? Why is Lex a villain? Why the Legion said us the FUTURE? After Legion, all the the talk about is Smallville part of the mythos or not became pointless. It is part, move along.

It's a part of the mythologies, but it's not being executed properly, IMO. Also, if TPTB actually have Lex dead after "Requiem", I will never view Smallville as part of the mythologies because that's just ridiculous.

[Drasix]

In general I dislike the whole "Smallville is an alternate universe/re-telling of the superman mythos". Yes it's different in some areas, the kawatche caves, black pete, lois lex, chloe and lionel all being in clark's life, but the fundamentals of the story have been followed pretty much to the letter for example:

Lex Luthour is superman's greatest enemy same in SV.
Superman works with other memebers of the JLA.
Lana Lang knows clarks secret.
Lex kills his father.
Lois lane is a bad speller, a smoker, and a journalist for the daily planet
Jimmy Olsen is a photographer.
clark kent works at the daily planet.

these things are all part of the mythos and now they are part of SV. so to say that SV is not a show about superman is IMO a moot point because in the more recent comics Clark is Superman as opposed to some early renditions where Superman is the real person and Clark is the mask.

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I would have to disagree, otherwise there wouldn't be so many comics, movies, and heck a whole TV show devoted to Lois and Clark. Ask anyone on the street who is Superman's girlfriend? the answer ain't gonna be lana lang, or wonder woman, or lori leramis.all im sayin is that if Clark winds up with lois lane in SV just because of the mythos it will be epic fail.Sorry but the writers put way more into the clana relationship than in any mythos before and because of that clois would never work in the smallville universe

[Timester]

you just made my point ..lol...yeah he said "end up like the mythose" theyre not following the mythos page by page is what ive been trying to say.i never said that they dont stay true to the superman lore but they have ventured off the path several times to their unique vision

How the hell I made you point when you said "he could end up with anyone really" or "doesnt follow any specific mythos"? Now you are just changing your words as the debate moves.

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It's a part of the mythologies, but it's not being executed properly, IMO. Also, if TPTB actually have Lex dead after "Requiem", I will never view Smallville as part of the mythologies because that's just ridiculous.

ITA. The execution sucked.

[thehenry89]

all im sayin is that if Clark winds up with lois lane in SV just because of the mythos it will be epic fail.Sorry but the writers put way more into the clana relationship than in any mythos before and because of that clois would never work in the smallville universe

:rotfl: all I'm saying is that the whole clana relationship was an "Epic Fail" so they have nothing left to lose. Besides people move on from their first love, it's not as hard as you might think.

[Timester]

i wouldnt say that being with Lois Lane is a "critical component" of the mythos

Uh, it kinda is. It's how ACTION COMICS #1 was written. Superman is the story of Lois and Clark. It's like saying that Juliet doesn't matter for the Romeo & Juliet story...

[x THE CHEETAH x]

i said it doesnt follow any SPECIFIC mythos.Your saying that that smallville has to be exactly like everything youve heard in comics and what not but smallville was gough and millars vision of superman's adolescence not page by page of what the comics say happened

You might want to re-read my comments... because I've said nothing of the sorts... good try, though.

Just so I know where you're coming from... you seem like the kind of person that would say it's okay for this version of Clark Kent to be vulnerable to gun-shots.... or to lack super strength.... just because Smallville "is not the comics" and doesn't need to follow any SPECIFIC mythos. Is that how you feel about story of Clark Kent and ultimately Superman? (I'm not being sarcastic... I'd really like to know)

[Drasix]

[quote=Timester;4446663]How the hell I made you point when you said "he could end up with anyone really" or "doesnt follow any specific mythos"? Now you are just changing your words as the debate moves.
dude youve got to be kidding me....IT DOESNT FOLLOW ANY SPECIFIC MYTHOS AS IN SMALLVILLE DOESNT GO WORD FOR WORD BY WHAT THE COMICS SAY

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[Timester]

dude youve got to be kidding me....IT DOESNT FOLLOW ANY SPECIFIC MYTHOS AS IN SMALLVILLE DOESNT GO WORD FOR WORD BY WHAT THE COMICS SAY

Ending concerned? It mostly certain has. The Legion said so. It's on the show's canon.

[Drasix]

You might want to re-read my comments... because I've said nothing of the sorts... good try, though.

Just so I know where you're coming from... you seem like the kind of person that would say it's okay for this version of Clark Kent to be vulnerable to gun-shots.... or to lack super strength.... just because Smallville "is not the comics" and doesn't need to follow any SPECIFIC mythos. Is that how you feel about story of Clark Kent and ultimately Superman? (I'm not being sarcastic... I'd really like to know)
Nope i just said that they dont have to follow everysingle little detail from the comics for it to be true to the superman mythos.which they dont..theyve done plenty of things in sv thats not done exactly in the comics..It has nothing to do with any of his powers

[x THE CHEETAH x]

Uh, it kinda is. It's how ACTION COMICS #1 was written. Superman is the story of Lois and Clark. It's like saying that Juliet doesn't matter for the Romeo & Juliet story...

Well said, Timester...

[Drasix]

Ending concerned? It mostly certain has. The Legion said so. It's on the show's canon.
really? and your basing this off of what three people from the future said

[thehenry89]

Nope i just said that they dont have to follow everysingle little detail from the comics for it to be true to the superman mythos.which they dont..theyve done plenty of things in sv thats not done exactly in the comics..It has nothing to do with any of his powers

So if I understand you correctly Lois and Clark's relationship is a minor detail?

[Drasix]

the simple fact of the matter is that theyve spent nearly 8 years developing the clana relationship for each other and saying that he will be with lois in possible before the season ends is pretty rediculous

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So if I understand you correctly Lois and Clark's relationship is a minor detail?
in smallville it definately isnt a major detail..not yet anyway

[supes0]

Uh, it kinda is. It's how ACTION COMICS #1 was written. Superman is the story of Lois and Clark. It's like saying that Juliet doesn't matter for the Romeo & Juliet story...

Exactly DC comics has come out on the record to say Lois Lane is the second most important character after Clark/Superman. She was there from the very first issue. Other than Superman, no other character was there from the start.

Her romantic relationship with Clark is the cornerstone of the Superman mythos (DC themselves say this). She had her own title Superman's Girlfriend: Lois Lane which went on for years.

She is now married to him, and DC just last month reiterated the commitment to the marriage. AlMiles said in the very beginning, they are not allowed to change that Clark ends up with Lois.

After the last 3 episodes, I wish they were allowed to change it. But they aren't.

Instead the writers are going to wave their hands and have Clark fall for Lois no matter how unrealistic it looks on screen.

[Drasix]

Exactly DC comics has come out on the record to say Lois Lane is the second most important character after Clark/Superman. She was there from the very first issue. Other than Superman, no other character was there from the start.

Her romantic relationship with Clark is the cornerstone of the Superman mythos (DC themselves say this). She had her own title Superman's Girlfriend: Lois Lane which went on for years.

She is now married to him, and DC just last month reiterated the commitment to the marriage. AlMiles said in the very beginning, they are not allowed to change that Clark ends up with Lois.

After the last 3 episodes, I wish they were allowed to change it. But they aren't.

Instead the writers are going to wave their hands and have Clark fall for Lois no matter how unrealistic it looks on screen.and im not saying he won't be with lois...just saying it will be dumb as hell if they get together over the next 8 episode after everthing the clana relationship has endured over the past 8 years

[Timester]

really? and your basing this off of what three people from the future said

What? :confused:

We are ALL supposed to base on what they said. They ARE from the future, they know the end of the story.

Beside the fact that was written by Geoff Johns.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

Nope i just said that they dont have to follow everysingle little detail from the comics for it to be true to the superman mythos.which they dont..theyve done plenty of things in sv thats not done exactly in the comics..It has nothing to do with any of his powers

I don't think anyone who watches Smallville expects every little detail to be followed from the comics... in fact, that's what keeps this show fresh, is altering "little details".

However, for you to say it doesn't matter who Clark ends up with romantically, is not a "little detail". I can safely say with full confidence that the one and only Clark Kent and Lois Lane love is not a "little detail"... it's as critical as Superman being faster than a speeding bullet...