TV Ratings for "Requiem"

[tyson08]

Discuss the TV Ratings for this weeks episode of "Requiem" :)

[Clana Kent]

Ehm... I believe this week's episode is called Requiem ;)

And I expect the ratings to be about 4.00 million (Live +7 about 4.30) for Requiem :)

[marcella]

I believe in 4.07

[Jaderoyale]

I'm sure this episode os Requiem.... have i gone back in time?! :eek: Don't make me watch it again!!!

As for the ratings, i don't know. I'm not hoping for something big tbh. But i don't think it will be as low as Bulletproof.

[skylar]

I will say 4.33.

[nic25]

I think curiousity might get the best of a lot of people,and the ratings may better then we expect,like last week.In hopes for a season 9,i hope the ratings arent too bad!

[Routh]

I hope it plummets. And I've never wished ill-will towards this show's ratings before. I would love to support the show like I usually do, but I just cannot right now.

[lm1212]

I'll guess 4.5...for "Lex", Lana's goodbye, and Toyman

[Kreukie]

1.1 million. :)

[Routh]

1.1 million. :)

Look at that! For once we agree. :)

[Kreukie]

Look at that! For once we agree. :)

That hurts my feelings.

[myankskent]

I think that there will be a decrease from last week. I don't see it being a huge decrease, however.

[tyson08]

D'oh! I must have been having a huge brain cramp! No more 'Power'! :lol:

Thanks for the correction, Jenn! :)

[davidbrenton]

I think the ratings will be about 4.18.

That's good especially given full blown competition this week.

[RedKRules]

I'll guess 4.5...for "Lex", Lana's goodbye, and Toyman

that is what I think as well .

[marcella]

After last week,which I was surprised by the ratings,I expect anything

[Superman&Clana]

Well last episodes proves that lois lane doesn't bring the ratings. So i guess 4.20 mil.

[Kreukie]

Well last episodes proves that lois lane doesn't bring the ratings. So i guess 4.20 mil.

I'm still waiting for someone to prove Lois brings ratings. :rotfl:

[SparkleforSmallville]

I'm guessing 4.25mil.:)
The competition is tougher this week with less repeats and no AI to
tilt the scale. We'll see. But, hey!

~~~~~~~It's Smallville Thursday!~~~~~~~

*happy dance*

[tyson08]

Well last episodes proves that lois lane doesn't bring the ratings. So i guess 4.20 mil.

I'm still waiting for someone to prove Lois brings ratings. :rotfl:

This thread isn't to discuss your nonsense, please quit it and let's talk about the ratings for this particular episode.

[davidbrenton]

I'm still waiting for someone to prove Lois brings ratings. :rotfl:

What would it take to prove that? There are too many variable to directly prove that without an actual scene-by-scene ratings comparison. I believe this is how/why shows like desperate housewives (a couple times a season) will do an episode where each character is individually emphasized on a different 15 minute mark. The first quarter is Susan flashback, the second is Lynette, the third is Gabrielle, the fourth is Bree. They do that to analyze the ratings to see which character brought in the largest audience. Without that done, there is no way to prove anything, but there is also no way to disprove it.

[Dresden]

This thread isn't to discuss your nonsense, please quit it and let's talk about the ratings for this particular episode.

WORD.

Why does everything have to be Lois v. Lana nowadays. It's so damn childish. Can we just discuss ratings?

I say this episode will do 3.8. Last week there were a lot of re-runs that helped Smallville. That won't happen this week, especially since Bones is brand new, and by the looks of the spoilers it will be very exciting.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yeah, the Live+7 for Requiem may be higher.
:lol:I always say that and the dvr rating is always about the same.

[nic25]

Yeah, the Live+7 for Requiem may be higher.
:lol:I always say that and the dvr rating is always about the same.

What is the difference between the Live+7 numbers and the regular ratings?

[davidbrenton]

What is the difference between the Live+7 numbers and the regular ratings?

Live ratings = regular ratings
+7 = Plus 7 days DVR Playback views

So, Live +7 includes both regular ratings as well as DVR playback views for 7 days.

Live/regular ratings are the most important ones, but DVR playback is gaining more importance.

[nic25]

Live ratings = regular ratings
+7 = Plus 7 days DVR Playback views

So, Live +7 includes both regular ratings as well as DVR playback views for 7 days.

Live/regular ratings are the most important ones, but DVR playback is gaining more importance.

Thanks David :)

[Kreukie]

This thread isn't to discuss your nonsense, please quit it and let's talk about the ratings for this particular episode.

Hey, where were you in the Bulletproof thread? :lol:

[Supsfan]

I guess we find out the effect of Bones on Smallville's rating tonight. If this episode goes down, it's not a good sign for the rest of the season. Personally I don't know why they didn't advertised it being Lana's last episode in the preview, I think that would have drove in more fans.

I am guessing 4-4.2M(last weeks rating + people curious about Lex + people who know this is Lana's last episode and curious to see how it goes - Bones fans who watch Smallville when nothing better on - People annoyed by Clana)

[Kreukie]

Personally I don't know why they advertised it being Lana's last episode in the preview, I think that would have drove in more fans.

I know, seriously. Smallville has the weirdest marketing team. It's like those times they had One Republic and Lifehouse on the series, they didn't even promote it in any of the trailers! It's like, what's the point of paying these bands to appear on your show if you aren't going to use it for your advantage to get at least their fans to watch? :confused:

[ClarkyBoy14]

I'll guess 3.90 million viewers. I think the Toyman, Lex and Lana/KK's goodbye might bring in some viewers while the return of regular competition will hurt.

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I know, seriously. Smallville has the weirdest marketing team. It's like those times they had One Republic and Lifehouse on the series, they didn't even promote it in any of the trailers! It's like, what's the point of paying these bands to appear on your show if you aren't going to use it for your advantage to get at least their fans to watch? :confused:

Yeah, that was so dumb of the CW. When William Peterson left CSI last month, CBS had a ton of ads promoting it. Couldn't the CW have at least mentioned it to drum up more interest?

[vyperman7]

Requiem will be one of the highest rated episodes of the season in terms of the TV ratings. However, what people need to examine is the reasoning for this. Whenever an episode has this much negativity surrounding it and is considered an episode that can make or break the series, people will tune in just based on that hype. They will want to see if they were right about their predictions and how the writers will make us all remember Lana. Look for the ratings to be at their highest in the second half hour because the episode will most likely end with how Clana ends.

Everyone (Clana fans and Clana haters) want to see how Clana will end. If Clana is handled properly with mutual closure, then it will make Clana fans happy because the relationship was respected and it will make everyone else happy because it won't screw up the rest of the season in regards to Clark and Lois. Although Bulletproof and Power provided a lot of error that needs to be fixed. If it is handled poorly by using an outside circumstance to end Clana like Kryptonite in Lana's skin, it will screw up the rest of the season.

The high ratings for this episode, will have nothing to do with the episode itself. It will purely be based on people tuning in for the hype. Nothing more.

[Supsfan]

I know, seriously. Smallville has the weirdest marketing team. It's like those times they had One Republic and Lifehouse on the series, they didn't even promote it in any of the trailers! It's like, what's the point of paying these bands to appear on your show if you aren't going to use it for your advantage to get at least their fans to watch? :confused:

It sort of reminds me of the Abyss preview. Why not focus on Clark at the FOS, I think that would have drawn in more fans of the show then the Chloe preview they had(nothing against Chloe but Clark or something special(in this case Lana's last episode) is what draws fans in).


Requiem will be one of the highest rated episodes of the season in terms of the TV ratings. However, what people need to examine is the reasoning for this. Whenever an episode has this much negativity surrounding it and is considered an episode that can make or break the series, people will tune in just based on that hype. They will want to see if they were right about their predictions and how the writers will make us all remember Lana. Look for the ratings to be at their highest in the second half hour because the episode will most likely end with how Clana ends.

Everyone (Clana fans and Clana haters) want to see how Clana will end. If Clana is handled properly with mutual closure, then it will make Clana fans happy because the relationship was respected and it will make everyone else happy because it won't screw up the rest of the season in regards to Clark and Lois. Although Bulletproof and Power provided a lot of error that needs to be fixed. If it is handled poorly by using an outside circumstance to end Clana like Kryptonite in Lana's skin, it will screw up the rest of the season.

The high ratings for this episode, will have nothing to do with the episode itself. It will purely be based on people tuning in for the hype. Nothing more.

While I agree with what you are saying, I think that fanbase will be counteracted by the fanbase who has better stuff to watch this week(Bones for the most part but Ugly Betty as well can take a bite out of the audience)

[marcella]

This thread isn't to discuss your nonsense, please quit it and let's talk about the ratings for this particular episode.

Word. Some people...

[beatles4]

I've been doing my part to help ratings by telling people to watch it tonight! Now, do ratings include the fact that there are those who watch it by purchasing it through iTunes?

[ClarkyBoy14]

Requiem will be one of the highest rated episodes of the season in terms of the TV ratings. However, what people need to examine is the reasoning for this. Whenever an episode has this much negativity surrounding it and is considered an episode that can make or break the series, people will tune in just based on that hype. They will want to see if they were right about their predictions and how the writers will make us all remember Lana. Look for the ratings to be at their highest in the second half hour because the episode will most likely end with how Clana ends.

Everyone (Clana fans and Clana haters) want to see how Clana will end. If Clana is handled properly with mutual closure, then it will make Clana fans happy because the relationship was respected and it will make everyone else happy because it won't screw up the rest of the season in regards to Clark and Lois. Although Bulletproof and Power provided a lot of error that needs to be fixed. If it is handled poorly by using an outside circumstance to end Clana like Kryptonite in Lana's skin, it will screw up the rest of the season.

The high ratings for this episode, will have nothing to do with the episode itself. It will purely be based on people tuning in for the hype. Nothing more.

I agree with that... to an extent. Yes, it's true about the online fans, but the casual viewers (who make up the majority of the show's audience), who don't check out the show online, won't know anything about the hype. So I'm not sure how this would affect them...

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I've been doing my part to help ratings by telling people to watch it tonight! Now, do ratings include the fact that there are those who watch it by purchasing it through iTunes?

No. However, it certainly doesn't hurt to download the episodes, because the CW/Waner Bros. still gets to see that data.

[ZODisGOD]

Lois doesn't bring ratings, Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman does.

Anyway I predict between 4.2-4.3, but I'm hoping 4.5 or whatever Bloodline scored.

[AgentChaos]

Just under 4 million. It has stiff competition, but it doesn't have AI sucking away viewers, either.

[JAMHEXXX]

3.67 million:)

[alejandrita439]

i say 4.3

[morena]

I hope more than 4 million.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I am going to say 4 million. :)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Right now there are 1,436 people on K-Site:)

We could break the current record of 1,788 for Bride!

[monel49]

It will be close to 4 million.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Goodbye... Lana. :(
Hope you return for Season Nine. :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

Right now there are 1,436 people on K-Site:)

We could break the current record of 1,788 for Bride!

We broke a new record tonight with over 1800 visitors. This is the second time this season that the record's been broken. However, I don't think very many people are happy this time...

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think most people just came to bash. :\

[bizzaroboy9]

4.2?

[6-Super-Man -5]

Nothing less than 4 million.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yay! We did it! Requiem broke the KryptonSite record!!

"Most users ever online was 1,869, Today at 06:40 PM."


It's awesome that I hit my 3,000 post in a Ratings thread! :lol:


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[6-Super-Man -5]

Yay! We did it! Requiem broke the KryptonSite record!!

"Most users ever online was 1,869, Today at 06:40 PM."

Sweet. :D
2,000 members for Season Eight finale! :D

[alejandrita439]

Originally Posted by SparkleforSmallville
Yay! We did it! Requiem broke the KryptonSite record!!

"Most users ever online was 1,869, Today at 06:40 PM."


Incredible :O !
its good :D

[Dominicus]

I think most people just came to bash. :\Not true, I signed up today, this episode motivated me to do so, maninly because I couldn't stand what was being done to the superman mythos.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Not true, I signed up today, this episode motivated me to do so, maninly because I couldn't stand what was being done to the superman mythos.

Okay, I'm a little confused what you said.
But anyways, welcome to the forum.

[Darren5000]

4.5 rating will be the prediction for me, they come in maybe 4th out of 5 shows on that night. I don't know why Ugly Betty keeps beating Smallville though. It's OK, but not exactly a hit, neither is Kath and Kim. Hope American Idol wasn't on again, that kills every show!

[AgentChaos]

I don't know why Ugly Betty keeps beating Smallville though. It's OK, but not exactly a hit, neither is Kath and Kim. Hope American Idol wasn't on again, that kills every show!

Ugly Betty is on a major network, Smallville is not.

AI wasn't on tonight.

[Smallvilledabest]

5Million

[Dominicus]

Okay, I'm a little confused what you said.
But anyways, welcome to the forum. Sorry, got too excited I suppose. Just saying I signed up to be part of the forum and not a random basher, better? :D

as far as ratings goes i think it will be higher because of curiousity seekers and the controversy surrounding the episode. I judge this on Smallville videos on YouTube having a recent spike in viewers/hits. And also last weeks ratings of 4.4 despite AI being on. Si 4.5-4.8

[6-Super-Man -5]

Sorry, got too excited I suppose. Just saying I signed up to be part of the forum and not a random basher, better? :D

Oh makes sense. :D

[Seeya'round Smallville]

I hope this bombs. It probably won't, Infamous will take the hit instead from the fallout. Man I hate this show right now.

[F-Stop Blues]

If it is handled poorly by using an outside circumstance to end Clana like Kryptonite in Lana's skin, it will screw up the rest of the season.


This show is so screwed. I honestly cant believe this is how they end their story.

[kiariclois]

I so want this to have like 3 mil... :p but considering the fact that people tuned in to see Lana being send off, then I say 4 mil +

[Dominicus]

This show is so screwed. I honestly cant believe this is how they end their story.Agreed. this was bad send off for two reasons, there was no closure, and Clana\Clois fans both got hurt.

[skugers]

I'm expecting around 4,2 milion. Given the fact that this was KK's last ep on SV... I think a lot of Clana fans tuned in and there werw a lot of Cloisers who watched to see if Clark wakes up. So Requiem will make it above 4 mil

[silverdragon]

I say 4.2

[F..l]

I'll guess 4.5...
that is what I think as well .
I think this as well :)

[DGirlLois4Clark]

6 million...NOT!

[costas22]

Since Bones was on,i would say somewhere between 3.6 and 4.1.

[Superman's_Wife]

I think this episode will do fairly good. Love Lana Lang or hate her, we all wanted to see how it ended right?

[thehenry89]

I know I tuned in to make sure lana actually left.

[Superman's_Wife]

I know I tuned in to make sure lana actually left.

Hahahahahaha....ain't that the truth? Lol.

[slimdogg23]

I'd say about 43.3-4.5

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I know I tuned in to make sure lana actually left.

:rotfl:

Whatever...I really don't care but I would say 3.8- 4.1 mil What a joke anyway!:rolleyes:

[Luiz Fernando]

Fox’s recently relocated (and under-appreciated) Bones was first in the 8 p.m. hour, with 10.76 million viewers and a 3.2 rating/9 share among adults 18-49. No matter where the network airs Bones, viewers respond. Next was ABC’s Ugly Betty (Viewers: 7.27 million; A18-49: 2.3/ 7), which has not benefited without CBS’ competing Survivor in the mix (and will be taking a temporary break shortly).

In the battle of the 8-9 p.m. sitcoms, repeats of CBS’ The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #3, 6.17 million; A18-49: #4, 2.0/ 6) and How I Met Your Mother (Viewers: #3, 5.95 million; A18-49: #3t, 2.0/ 5) actually had more viewers than original episodes of NBC’s My Name is Earl (Viewers: #4, 6.16 million; A18-49: #2, 2.5/ 7) and soon-to-conclude Kath & Kim (Viewers: #4, 4.72 million; A18-49: #3t, 2.0/ 5). As I always say, if you are not watching The Big Bang Theory, you are missing the funniest comedy currently on the air. As for My Name is Earl, NBC needs something stronger to open the evening with.

Capping off the 8-9 p.m. time period was the CW’s still relatively potent Smallville at 3.88 million viewers and a 1.6/ 4 in the demo. For the CW, that is still a positive

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Yeah I got the right prediction...oh wait why do I care about this crap fest :lol:
I guess I took my Prozac for the day :rolleyes:

[tyson08]

3.88, that's interesting.

[marcella]

I knew it:D

[Timester]

3.88? Expected.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

I was expecting over 6 million people to see a great love story end..NOT!!!

[marcella]

^^:rotfl:

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats a good ammount.
Now, time for "Infamous". :cool:

[costas22]

Timester is right.I also expected as much with Bones opposite Smallville.I think the last 2 weeks have showed how dependant Smallville has become on whether series from the same genre is against it.I hope that the final rating reaches 4 but i am not so sure.

[Timester]

I was expecting over 6 million people to see a great love story end..NOT!!!

What great love? Oh, Clana, right? It ended last night? Because I kinda missed the ending part. ;)

[Wicked Lois]

Power fooled us. We were expecting things to happen in Requiem.. My bed seemed more interesting to me yesterday than Smallville.

[Timester]

*Grabing popcorns and wait for rating spin theorists*

[joesmallville]

Now we know the impact Bones has on Smallville

The two times they have gone head to head Smallville's has respectively lost 450,000 and 300,000 viewers from the previous week.

[Fallen One]

*Grabing popcorns and wait for rating spin theorists*
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[skugers]

guess my 4.2 didn't make it...

[Routh]

Well hey, look at that. It plummeted. Serves you right, PS3. I guess what happened in Power really did turn off a lot of people.

[BadToad]

YES!

That is all. :)

[marcella]

well hey, look at that. It plummeted. Serves you right, ps3. I guess what happened in power really did turn off a lot of people.

word

[tyson08]

Well hey, look at that. It plummeted. Serves you right, PS3. I guess what happened in Power really did turn off a lot of people.

Yep, I agree.

I do have to say however, I thought this episode was actually better than "Power".

[Timester]

I do have to say however, I thought this episode was actually better than "Power".

It was better than Power, yes. Power is the reason why the ratings fell.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Well. Says it all really. Give the viewers Power plus a Clana-centric trailer and the OPTION to turn over for a brand new episode of Bones and...

The people voted with their remotes.

[Mrs. Superman]

I was expecting over 6 million people to see a great love story end..NOT!!!
:rotfl:

[Lnc4Ever]

Well. Says it all really. Give the viewers Power plus a Clana-centric trailer and the OPTION to turn over for a brand new episode of Bones and...

The people voted with their remotes.

I know I did! :D

And the episode of Bones was great BTW! :p

[supes0]

It was better than Power, yes. Power is the reason why the ratings fell.

Yep.

Now it starts all over from scratch from Infamous. Any bets on how they're going to promote it? It's going to be as if the last 3 episodes never happened. :p

[Timester]

Yep.

Now it starts all over from scratch from Infamous. Any bets on how they're going to promote it? It's going to be as if the last 3 episodes never happened. :p

I'm certain of it.

[supes0]

What great love? Oh, Clana, right? It ended last night? Because I kinda missed the ending part. ;)

:lol:

There shouldn't be an end to this, but just like Clark forgot Alicia in an episode, the same fate in store for Lana. Lois: RUN don't walk to the nearest exit.

[Superman's_Wife]

*Grabing popcorns and wait for rating spin theorists*

You can't spin this one. People were fooled into watching Power but did not commit the same mistake twice! Thank you Smallville fans for sending the message loud and clear to PS3 that this whole arc was a bunch of garbage that no one wanted to watch.

Seriously, even I expected higher ratings just based on the fact that it was the end, but I guess the cloiser boycotters got their wish in the end. This episode was a failure, in content and ratings.

*shines a big grin*

[tyson08]

Yep.

Now it starts all over from scratch from Infamous. Any bets on how they're going to promote it? It's going to be as if the last 3 episodes never happened. :p

They couldn't have a better episode to come back from the break with. Judging by all the spoilers and hype we have heard, it should be one hell of a trailer. I just hope that they get the trailer out sometime next week and get it running and telling when 'Smallville' will return.

[Superman's_Wife]

They couldn't have a better episode to come back from the break with. Judging by all the spoilers and hype we have heard, it should be one hell of a trailer. I just hope that they get the trailer out sometime next week and get it running and telling when 'Smallville' will return.

Exactly. Infamous has the potential to make this entire Lana arc seem as though it was written by a two year old. Let's hope that PS3 stop trying to please fans and just get down to good old storytelling!

I'm also pleased that the ratings aren't absolutely atrocious because I don't want Smallville to fail, especially not when Lois Lane returns. She deserves top ratings! :)

[costas22]

Personally,i don't think Power turned viewers off.In that sense,why didn't the end of Bulletproof turn viewers off of Power?For me the main reason is Bones.And even though Infamous is shaping up to be a great episode,with Bones against it the results will be about the same.

[Alania]

I'm also pleased that the ratings aren't absolutely atrocious because I don't want Smallville to fail, especially not when Lois Lane returns. She deserves top ratings! :)


There's no need to worry about that; Lois and Clark on screen are like magnets for viewers. Bones better watch out!! :p

[tyson08]

Personally,i don't think Power turned viewers off.In that sense,why didn't the end of Bulletproof turn viewers off of Power?For me the main reason is Bones.And even though Infamous is shaping up to be a great episode,with Bones against it the results will be about the same.

I feel that if The CW can put out a great trailer and advertise the return of 'Smallville' efficiently then there's no reason why "Infamous" can't get around 4.5 million. It's going to be an epic episode whether it's real or not.

[Seeya'round Smallville]

Episodes in Season 8 below 4 million:

Abyss, Bulletproof, Requiem.

What do they all have in common? No Lois.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

The end of Lana on the show, a "big event", and it can't even crack 4 million. GOOD.

"Bloodline", when this show was kicking ass in the first half, even preempted by NFL football in the entire Denver market, scored 4.5 million. Message to PS3? You ruined the show to live out your own personal fantasies instead of staying with the story you told for 10 episodes, and while popular opinion is just opinion, these numbers are facts. No one wanted to watch this garbage.

[Superman's_Wife]

Personally,i don't think Power turned viewers off.In that sense,why didn't the end of Bulletproof turn viewers off of Power?For me the main reason is Bones.And even though Infamous is shaping up to be a great episode,with Bones against it the results will be about the same.

The answer to that is simple.

The ending in Bulletproof is something that can be classified as a cliffhanger ending. There was no Clark and Lana throughout the episode except for a few moments at the beginning and then at the very end. They kissed and people were shocked. They tuned in to Power to get closure and resolution. When none of that came and actually became quite obvious (with the second kiss) that it would never come, people decided to tune off from further disappointment and not watch Requiem.

[Mrs. Superman]

Yep.

Now it starts all over from scratch from Infamous. Any bets on how they're going to promote it? It's going to be as if the last 3 episodes never happened. :p
That's exactly what they're gonna do and I dont know if I should be happy about that or frustrated that they didn't write this lana arc better.

[Clana Kent]

3,88 million? :eek:
They really should've promoted it better!

They probably will promote when Lois comes back... Stupid CW... This was one of the most important episodes of the season!!

[Mrs. Superman]

Personally,i don't think Power turned viewers off.In that sense,why didn't the end of Bulletproof turn viewers off of Power?For me the main reason is Bones.And even though Infamous is shaping up to be a great episode,with Bones against it the results will be about the same.
Honestly I enjoyed Bulletproof and I went into Power believing it was going to be a lot better than it turned out to be. But after Power I saw their true colors. It wasn't about closure it was about drama.

[Timester]

Personally,i don't think Power turned viewers off.In that sense,why didn't the end of Bulletproof turn viewers off of Power?For me the main reason is Bones.And even though Infamous is shaping up to be a great episode,with Bones against it the results will be about the same.

It was Power. If Power was good, then people would stay to see the payoff, no matter what other shows are there. Good stories = good ratings, that's what the viewers want.

[smallvillerocks45]

I hope Infamous gets proper promotion - not only was there no teaser for the episode, or the rest of the season for that matter, after Requiem, but there is going to be break before the latest episode airs, and it will have some pretty stiff competition - all factors which will seriously test Smallville's ratings. I hope it does well. I want this show to have successful ratings.

[costas22]

The promotion was good to be honest.It was the first time we got a 40 second trailer.Lana definitely deserved a better send off.I will be the first to jump for joy if Infamous stands tall against Bones and goes over 4.1.It will be tough though since Smallville is up against a show fro the same genre.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

good stories = good ratings, that's what the viewers want.

amen.

[supes0]

That's exactly what they're gonna do and I dont know if I should be happy about that or frustrated that they didn't write this lana arc better.

I am frustrated beyond belief. Clark's integrity suffers if he goes on like nothing happened. It looked idiotic when he did this with Alicia and it's going to look even worse when he goes on as if nothing happened after last night. There was absolutely no closure. The DVD was a better end than what just happened. Because then Clark wouldn't look a heartless fickle fool.

[ZODisGOD]

I'm kinda shocked about the rating, but then again, it's not Power that caused the plummet, it was the other newer episodes(from higher rated shows) that were airing the same hour. Requiem was better than Power (which was also good), and doubt Power's the reason why fans would not tune in, probably only Clois fans (but what percentage of the fanbase watch it for Lois&Clark)

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

They couldn't have a better episode to come back from the break with. Judging by all the spoilers and hype we have heard, it should be one hell of a trailer. I just hope that they get the trailer out sometime next week and get it running and telling when 'Smallville' will return.

i hope so 2.
i want to see a trailer from infamous! soon

[Timester]

I'm kinda shocked about the rating, but then again, it's not Power that caused the plummet, it was the other newer episodes(from higher rated shows) that were airing the same hour. Requiem was better than Power (which was also good), and doubt Power's the reason why fans would not tune in, probably only Clois fans (but what percentage of the fanbase watch it for Lois&Clark)

Again, if Power was good, people wouldn't leave.

This is nothing new on Smallville. Magnetic, Spell, Thirst and few more are now not exceptions, but the rule. When the episodes suck, the next episode's ratings suffers.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

It was the first time we got a 40 second trailer.

And following on from Power the majority of that 40 second trailer was...?

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

Episodes in Season 8 below 4 million:

Abyss, Bulletproof, Requiem.

What do they all have in common? No Lois.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

The end of Lana on the show, a "big event", and it can't even crack 4 million. GOOD.

"Bloodline", when this show was kicking ass in the first half, even preempted by NFL football in the entire Denver market, scored 4.5 million. Message to PS3? You ruined the show to live out your own personal fantasies instead of staying with the story you told for 10 episodes, and while popular opinion is just opinion, these numbers are facts. No one wanted to watch this garbage.

right on!!!!!!!!

[Mrs. Superman]

I hope Infamous gets proper promotion - not only was there no teaser for the episode, or the rest of the season for that matter, after Requiem, but there is going to be break before the latest episode airs, and it will have some pretty stiff competition - all factors which will seriously test Smallville's ratings. I hope it does well. I want this show to have successful ratings.
Honestly I think they turned a lot of viewers off with the direction they took from these episodes. I'm not sure how Infamous is going to fare after all this. One thing I think holds true is that the majority of the board being against this arc, actually does mean something. It might not be a complete reflection of the entire smallville fandom, but this forum definitely gives a good consensus on how fans feel about these storylines.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

Exactly. Infamous has the potential to make this entire Lana arc seem as though it was written by a two year old. Let's hope that PS3 stop trying to please fans and just get down to good old storytelling!

I'm also pleased that the ratings aren't absolutely atrocious because I don't want Smallville to fail, especially not when Lois Lane returns. She deserves top ratings! :)

and she will get them!!
lois rules big time

[supes0]

I hope Infamous gets proper promotion - not only was there no teaser for the episode, or the rest of the season for that matter, after Requiem,

MHO, they couldn't put a teaser up because then the glaring dissonance between the last 3 episodes and the rest of the season would be front and center.

They're going to promote the rest of the episodes for a different audience. This ending was for people they expect to fade away, they'll now be targeting the mythos/superman fans with the rest of the season.

I'll bet you we'll be getting more "Hero's Passion" "Superman's Love" blah blah blah with heavy Lois in the next few weeks.

The ratings for Requiem was no surprise. Power was not received well by a lot of fans, it pleased a small fanbase. A similar dip happened after Promise. And the season did not recover. But season 8 did rise from the lows of the end of season 7. So now they're going to go after the season 8 audience who were on board prior to this debacle. And at what cost? Clark Kent's integrity.

[Mrs. Superman]

I am frustrated beyond belief. Clark's integrity suffers if he goes on like nothing happened. It looked idiotic when he did this with Alicia and it's going to look even worse when he goes on as if nothing happened after last night. There was absolutely no closure. The DVD was a better end than what just happened. Because then Clark wouldn't look a heartless fickle fool.
I agree. And the sad thing is I really believed they were going to bring about a much better ending to Clark and Lana than the dvd. I can not believe that they did something so much worse than that. The dvd was nothing compared to the crap that took place last episode.

[costas22]

Sasha there is not one Smallville fan that loved everything about this arc.Ask the Clana fans if that's how they wanted Clana to end.I am not a fan of any ship,i just don't want to blame one character or another for the ratings.The people mainly responsible are PS3.

[Timester]

Sasha there is not one Smallville fan that loved everything about this arc.Ask the Clana fans if that's how they wanted Clana to end.I am not a fan of any ship,i just don't want to blame one character or another for the ratings.The people mainly responsible are PS3.

The Clana fans? For what I have read, they are happy.

[Superman's_Wife]

The Clana fans? For what I have read, they are happy.

Clana fans, maybe. But Lana Lang fans? I'd be surprised if a Lana Lang fan came here and said: I am happy with what they have done with my character.

I'd be floored!

That poor character has been run over more times than a road kill on a busy intersection!

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

MHO, they couldn't put a teaser up because then the glaring dissonance between the last 3 episodes and the rest of the season would be front and center.

They're going to promote the rest of the episodes for a different audience. This ending was for people they expect to fade away, they'll now be targeting the mythos/superman fans with the rest of the season.

I'll bet you we'll be getting more "Hero's Passion" "Superman's Love" blah blah blah with heavy Lois in the next few weeks.

The ratings for Requiem was no surprise. Power was not received well by a lot of fans, it pleased a small fanbase. A similar dip happened after Promise. And the season did not recover. But season 8 did rise from the lows of the end of season 7. So now they're going to go after the season 8 audience who were on board prior to this debacle. And at what cost? Clark Kent's integrity.

and thats why this hole lana/clana arc should never have happend!
one plus side do. when we get to see infamous it will seem like this hole arc never happend. because infamous will be a zillion times better. not that thats very hard!:\

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Requiem was better than Power (which was also good), and doubt Power's the reason why fans would not tune in, probably only Clois fans (but what percentage of the fanbase watch it for Lois&Clark)

Actually unless I'm mistaken the ratings are best when there are strong Superman/DC canon plotlines. Maybe someone can pull up the graph again to show that. Lois and Clark just happens to be part of the known Superman universe. The minute they promote an episode as less Clark-centric and more along the lines of the stuff that ticked people off about Smallville in the past, the more likely they are to take the OPTION to switch channels to something else.

All Bones does is provide an enticing option. Strong storylines and strong plots in Smallville would encourage people to stick with it IMO. Hype up the fandom and the fandom remains loyal regardless of what else is on. That's what DVR's are for. People watch what they most want to see and DVR what they can watch whenever they feel like it. IMO it also allows people to FF through all the crap that makes them :rolleyes:

This episode SHOULD have drawn in Smallville fans by the bucket load. End of a seven year relationship plus 'Lex' plus a DC character? But it didn't. Power was enough for a lot of people to know what was coming. Add the trailer at the end and suddenly Bones looks unmissable to those who feel like they've been there/done that...

[Timester]

Clana fans, maybe. But Lana Lang fans? I'd be surprised if a Lana Lang fan came here and said: I am happy with what they have done with my character.

I have learned the past 7 years that there is no such thing as Lana fans, only pro-Lana Clana fans. But that's just me.

[Clana Kent]

I was happy with this arc, especially because it was Lois-free... Too bad about the mentions :s they really want to please Lois-fans I guess :p

I'm not glad about the goodbye! Though it keeps the door open for a possible return to Smallville for Lana, since they obviously still love each other :)
I'm SOO glad Lois is second choice now. It's an enormous relief they put it like that!

So, the arc was fantastic, but they should've come up with a slightly better ending!

[Superman's_Wife]

I have learned the past 7 years that there is no such thing as Lana fans, only pro-Lana Clana fans. But that's just me.

Sadly, I agree. :(

[Mrs. Superman]

Sasha there is not one Smallville fan that loved everything about this arc.Ask the Clana fans if that's how they wanted Clana to end.I am not a fan of any ship,i just don't want to blame one character or another for the ratings.The people mainly responsible are PS3.
I'm not blaming the characters, I'm blaming the writing. I enjoyed Legion and Bulletproof, but Power and Requiem were both done horribly. The writing is what made them bad, I didn't mind Lana's return. I feel that if they wrote her final story better the ratings would have been better. Instead they wrote the story as if it stood separate from the rest of the season, which makes no sense to me.

[Superman's_Wife]

I was happy with this arc, especially because it was Lois-free... Too bad about the mentions :s they really want to please Lois-fans I guess :p

I'm not glad about the goodbye! Though it keeps the door open for a possible return to Smallville for Lana, since they obviously still love each other :)
I'm SOO glad Lois is second choice now. It's an enormous relief they put it like that!

So, the arc was fantastic, but they should've come up with a slightly better ending!

[mod edit]

[davidbrenton]

Leave it to PS3 to mess up the show in mid-season.

[LucyK]

I was happy with this arc, especially because it was Lois-free... Too bad about the mentions :s they really want to please Lois-fans I guess :p

I'm not glad about the goodbye! Though it keeps the door open for a possible return to Smallville for Lana, since they obviously still love each other :)
I'm SOO glad Lois is second choice now. It's an enormous relief they put it like that!

So, the arc was fantastic, but they should've come up with a slightly better ending!
Lois is not and never will be second choice, no matter how much the writers turn this show into a soap opera. Clark is the loser in this situation.

[Mrs. Superman]

Actually unless I'm mistaken the ratings are best when there are strong Superman/DC canon plotlines. Maybe someone can pull up the graph again to show that. Lois and Clark just happens to be part of the known Superman universe. The minute they promote an episode as less Clark-centric and more along the lines of the stuff that ticked people off about Smallville in the past, the more likely they are to take the OPTION to switch channels to something else.

All Bones does is provide an enticing option. Strong storylines and strong plots in Smallville would encourage people to stick with it IMO. Hype up the fandom and the fandom remains loyal regardless of what else is on. That's what DVR's are for. People watch what they most want to see and DVR what they can watch whenever they feel like it. IMO it also allows people to FF through all the crap that makes them :rolleyes:

This episode SHOULD have drawn in Smallville fans by the bucket load. End of a seven year relationship plus 'Lex' plus a DC character? But it didn't. Power was enough for a lot of people to know what was coming. Add the trailer at the end and suddenly Bones looks unmissable to those who feel like they've been there/done that...
Yep I agree. I'm not blaming any one character for the dip, but I am blaming the story. I dont believe it was executed well at all.

[Superman's_Wife]

Lois is not and never will be second choice, no matter how much the writers turn this show into a soap opera. Clark is the loser in this situation.

Plus, Lana Lang lost all integrity and never gained it back. That's just pretty sad.

[costas22]

The Clana fans? For what I have read, they are happy. <!-- / message -->

How can they be happy?They are ending Clana when it has become stronger than ever.It's the same mind boggling writing that last year had Lex find out Clark's secret the minute MR was leaving the show.Characters should not be written so strongly when they are leaving because the show that is left behind tends to suffer.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

I have learned the past 7 years that there is no such thing as Lana fans, only pro-Lana Clana fans. But that's just me.

I agree. And from what I can tell a great many of them had and have no intention of continuing to watch the show so why pander to them to this degree and leave the rest of us who have watched from the pilot to suffer the consequences for the rest of the season :confused: I think the showrunners read this COMPLETELY WRONG. In fairness a lot of Lois fans will come back with the re-appearance of Lois, and the hope would be that the mature Clark we saw in the first half of the season would return at the same time :rolleyes: Time and ratings will tell...

But if this arc belonged anywhere it was at the start of the season IMO. That way we could have moved on to the good stuff instead of having it so jarringly interrupted. Instead we see Clark more mature before AND after this arc and yet we're supposed to believe Lana's arc didn't harm Clark's growth? Badly planned imo. And I don't blame Lana either before a dozen people jump down my throat. I fully blame the PS3.

[Clana Kent]

Lois is not and never will be second choice, no matter how much the writers turn this show into a soap opera. Clark is the loser in this situation.
This is Smallville! Let me welcome you to this show :) Lois is obviously second choice in this show and I LOVE it! I love Lana! There better be a Clana marriage in the finale :lol:

Back to topic: This episode could've done a lot better if the Lois-fans had turned in! I can't believe so many people wouldn't watch just because they wanna boycot Lana!

[thehenry89]

I'm never glad to see SV ratings down, but last night was a giant suck fest.

[Superman's_Wife]

How can they be happy?They are ending Clana when it has become stronger than ever.It's the same mind boggling writing that last year had Lex find out Clark's secret the minute MR was leaving the show.Characters should not be written so strongly when they are leaving because the show that is left behind tends to suffer.

Trust me when I say: I have *no* earthly idea.

But the truth has now been revealed. PS3 misplaced their priorities and the ratings tanked.

[Lexgirl33]

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[Timester]

How can they be happy?They are ending Clana when it has become stronger than ever.It's the same mind boggling writing that last year had Lex find out Clark's secret the minute MR was leaving the show.Characters should not be written so strongly when they are leaving because the show that is left behind tends to suffer.

Ask them, not me.

[supes0]

Lois is not and never will be second choice, no matter how much the writers turn this show into a soap opera. Clark is the loser in this situation.

Exactly. The ratings dropped for this episode, which indicates many people are just going to pretend this never happened (and for a lot of people, it didn't because they didn't watch knowing it was going to end like this)

More importantly it looks as if the show itself is poised to pretend it never happened. Now will the Smallville audience buy it? Some won't, some will.

I find it appalling that Clark is not going to spend as long as it takes searching for the cure every spare moment he can find when he's not saving people. He should quit his job at the planet, save people and work on a cure. Lois doesn't look like sloppy seconds, Clark is the one who looks terrible.

[mr lane]

3.88...

interesting

[marcella]

Many people will pretend this episode never happened

And Lois will never be second choice,because Clark will forget Lana very fast:lol:

[davidbrenton]

Exactly. The ratings dropped for this episode, which indicates many people are just going to pretend this never happened (and for a lot of people, it didn't because they didn't watch knowing it was going to end like this)

More importantly it looks as if the show itself is poised to pretend it never happened. Now will the Smallville audience buy it? Some won't, some will.


Personally, I feel like PS3 pulled a bait & switch tactic this season. It's the kind of stunt that could seriously damage ratings for the rest of the series if the general audience feels the same way. I don't trust the show anymore---especially if this is the last season.

[costas22]

Of course he will.This Smallville.He forgot about Lois pretty quick at Bride too.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Back to topic: This episode could've done a lot better if the Lois-fans had turned in! I can't believe so many people wouldn't watch just because they wanna boycot Lana!

Would so many have boycotted if the arc had been better written? Would so many have boycotted if Power and the trailer hadn't hinted heavily at something they'd shown us over and over again for seven years? Did people like me watch all that time to see the story end exactly where it started and with the character of Clark - the HERO of the show - torn down at the same time?

They had me right up until they went the Superpowered direction and copped out with the ending they did. Now, for me, they've tainted the rest of the season as we get closer to the end-game. The only way they can pick up where they left off IMO is by pretending this arc never happened and I wonder how the fans who loved this arc will feel when it's dropped out of show canon the same way Lois, Jimmy and Doomsday were while this happened...

But then why would they care if they're not watching anymore? :rolleyes:

The return of the show in March and the ratings as the series continues towards the end will tell the tale imo.

[mr lane]

Of course he will.This Smallville.He forgot about Lois pretty quick at Bride too.

Clark tends to forget about everyone very quickly

"mommy?"

"wheres pete?"

"maybe i should see how jimmy is doing."

"i think i almost kissed lois"

[Dominicus]

Exactly. The ratings dropped for this episode, which indicates many people are just going to pretend this never happened (and for a lot of people, it didn't because they didn't watch knowing it was going to end like this)

More importantly it looks as if the show itself is poised to pretend it never happened. Now will the Smallville audience buy it? Some won't, some will.

I find it appalling that Clark is not going to spend as long as it takes searching for the cure every spare moment he can find when he's not saving people. He should quit his job at the planet, save people and work on a cure. Lois doesn't look like sloppy seconds, Clark is the one who looks terrible.Right they tore down Clark Kents character down, nothing short of emasculation to build up lana/Kk for promotional purposes I assume for doing "the closure" episodes. Ridiculous.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Personally, I feel like PS3 pulled a bait & switch tactic this season. It's the kind of stunt that could seriously damage ratings for the rest of the series if the general audience feels the same way. I don't trust the show anymore---especially if this is the last season.

ITA. And with my faith goes my dedication to rearranging my life around the show every Thursday night, regardless of where I am.

[Superman's_Wife]

I applaud the Clois fans who were strong enough to resist the end the train wreck. Bravo! The ratings reflect now what the majority feel. :)

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Clark tends to forget about everyone very quickly

"mommy?"

"wheres pete?"

"maybe i should see how jimmy is doing."

"i think i almost kissed lois"

Clark Kent forgets his own damn dog for crying out loud!! Poor little Shelby. He so needs to live with Lois! Even if he does give her allergies! LOl. I have four cats and I'm allergic, but nothing stops me from loving them. :)

[costas22]

Annie you also do that?So do i?I will keep on doing it because Smallville is an addiction but i can understand why many people have turned away.At least with Al and Miles,we knew where we stood.PS3 give us 11 solid(up to great) episodes and then it's as if we are watching another show.Clark isn't wearing even his shirts and his suits anymore.

[Superman's_Wife]

Annie you also do that?So do i?I will keep on doing it because Smallville is an addiction but i can understand why many people have turned away.At least with Al and Miles,we knew where we stood.PS3 give us 11 solid(up to great) episodes and then it's as if we are watching another show.Clark isn't wearing even his shirts and his suits anymore.

I want to start calling PS3: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde :)

[Lnc4Ever]

Many people will pretend this episode never happened

And Lois will never be second choice,because Clark will forget Lana very fast:lol:


Exactly! Alicia anyone? That Clark Kent and his short term memory! :rotfl:

[mr lane]

I applaud the Clois fans who were strong enough to resist the end the train wreck. Bravo! The ratings reflect now what the majority feel. :)

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Clark Kent forgets his own damn dog for crying out loud!! Poor little Shelby. He so needs to live with Lois! Even if he does give her allergies! LOl. I have four cats and I'm allergic, but nothing stops me from loving them. :)

RIGHT! where is shelby? hopefull hes being fed! lol

[Tompouce]

It was quite sure that the rating would be down according to last week. Many people seemed interested by the Lana arc in "power" because the ratings were good but many people seems to feel betrayed and angry after "power" aired and we have the results today. I am not surprised at all. It was so obvious it would be like this...

[thehenry89]

This is Smallville! Let me welcome you to this show :) Lois is obviously second choice in this show and I LOVE it! I love Lana! There better be a Clana marriage in the finale :lol:

Back to topic: This episode could've done a lot better if the Lois-fans had turned in! I can't believe so many people wouldn't watch just because they wanna boycot Lana!

to your first point Lois won't be a second choice because clark, like he's done so many other times, will get over lana with relative ease and all delibrate speed :)

to your second point I know alot of lois fans (myself included) who tuned into this abomanation. It's not one portion of the fandom's fault if the ratings fall, if the PS3 actually took the time to write a decent episode instead of stealing fanfic ideas from 13 year old girls, than maybe more people would have watched instead of changing the channel over to Bones, where I should have been last night.

[cloisthelegendbegins]

Annie you also do that?So do i?I will keep on doing it because Smallville is an addiction but i can understand why many people have turned away.At least with Al and Miles,we knew where we stood.PS3 give us 11 solid(up to great) episodes and then it's as if we are watching another show.Clark isn't wearing even his shirts and his suits anymore.

I used to Costas ;) I know me, I'll at the very least DVR the episodes, but I won't have the level of dedication I did before. I would go as far as episodes 1-12 this season being tight and on track. 13 broke me as a completely 500% dedicated fan, 14 was exactly what I'd expected after 13 and I'm numb about it now. I'll watch a few more but my life doesn't get rearranged around it anymore. From that POV I'm done. :(

But it's interesting to me that no trailer or hint of promotion for 15 was done. Some people might have tuned in for the end of the show expecting that and it'll be interesting to see once we get the half hourly break-downs and final figures. I just think for Smallville fans this episode should have rocked the ratings. The fact it didn't is very telling IMO. Thing is too, a lot of folks who have been here since the pilot have grown up with the show and have matured more in those seven and a half years than Clark has - how sad is that :confused: I just expected so much more this close to end-game, and for 12 episodes I got it. :(

[hero`s passion]

I'm never glad to see SV ratings down, but last night was a giant suck fest.
I feel myself like a [mod edit], but I am glad deep inside)))....I don`t want SV to have bad ratings, because I hope for season 9, but they deserved this... the 2 past episodes were sucks... I hope that people still watch SV after that, hope Infamous would have best seasons ratings)))))))))

[supes0]

Clark tends to forget about everyone very quickly

"mommy?"

"wheres pete?"

"maybe i should see how jimmy is doing."

"i think i almost kissed lois"


Don't forget Alicia!

[Dominicus]

This is Smallville! Let me welcome you to this show :) Lois is obviously second choice in this show and I LOVE it! I love Lana! There better be a Clana marriage in the finale :lol:

Back to topic: This episode could've done a lot better if the Lois-fans had turned in! I can't believe so many people wouldn't watch just because they wanna boycot Lana!It's because of last weeks crappy power, and this equally poor requiem. These were bad episodes and deserved those ratings. This also suggests Lois did in fact save this show from it's poor previous Lana debackle ratings. People do not want to watch the same repetitive teenage angst with adults. The story was retold again and agian for 8 seasons, did you honestly believe that it wouldn't have consequence? And Lana is second first of all, Clark Chose Alicia over Lana, even after she tried to kill Lana.

Lana is a poison to Clark, and to smallville in general. Stop living in the past.

[marcella]

I hope better ratings for Infamous

[Superman's_Wife]

to your first point Lois won't be a second choice because clark, like he's done so many other times, will get over lana with relative ease and all delibrate speed :)

to your second point I know alot of lois fans (myself included) who tuned into this abomanation. It's not one portion of the fandom's fault if the ratings fall, if the PS3 actually took the time to write a decent episode instead of stealing fanfic ideas from 13 year old girls, than maybe more people would have watched instead of changing the channel over to Bones, where I should have been last night.

Amen! :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

It was quite sure that the rating would be down according to last week. Many people seemed interested by the Lana arc in "power" because the ratings were good but many people seems to feel betrayed and angry after "power" aired and we have the results today. I am not surprised at all. It was so obvious it would be like this...

Yeah, I expected this too.
I can expect a slight raise when "Infamous" is aired.

[LucyK]

This is Smallville! Let me welcome you to this show :) Lois is obviously second choice in this show and I LOVE it! I love Lana! There better be a Clana marriage in the finale :lol:

Back to topic: This episode could've done a lot better if the Lois-fans had turned in! I can't believe so many people wouldn't watch just because they wanna boycot Lana!
yes this is Smallville and guess what, this is about Superman. Who WILL end up with Lois, not matter how much your clana heart wants otherwise. And Lois will not be his second choice, not because she's a thousand times prettier, smarter and all around a better person than Lana, not because is canon. But because Lois is SO awesome that Clark will fall SO HARD for her, he'll forget Lana ever existed, let alone she was one day his first love. And better yet, Lois will make him gravel so much, work so hard for her love that this pathetic excuse you call Clark Kent will have to become Superman to make her fall in love with him.

And btw, we didn't not turn in because of Lana, we didn't watch because we knew it would be a crappy episode.:rotfl:

[hero`s passion]

PS3 actually took the time to write a decent episode instead of stealing fanfic ideas from 13 year old girls- it`s exactly hat I thought))))))...but the girl was probably not 13, but 10)))))

[costas22]

Whether Lois is second choice or not is debatable.Up until last season i would have said yes.But this year,with the show having more of a Superman than Superboy vibe to it,you would expect that Lois would gain ground on Lana and slowly become her equal in Clark's heart.Nevermind,we can analyse this for 100 pages.Nothing can change anymore.PS3 are in charge,and they are the ones who have to take a look in the mirror.Even if the show goes back to it's season 8 roots at Infamous,i don't know how long it will take for it to recover.

[supes0]

And Lana is second first of all, Clark Chose Alicia over Lana, even after she tried to kill Lana.

Lana is a poison to Clark, and to smallville in general. Stop living in the past.

I don't understand how this is a good ending for Lana? She is about to suffer the same fate as Alicia. Clark was ready to kill for Alicia too. He's sobbing over her dead body. Next episode "Alicia who?"

Now we'll watch as Smallville tries to build back up the ratings from this week's dip. Power contributed to lower ratings, Requiem was not much better. So how do they recover, I'll bet tons and tons of mythos related stuff in upcoming promos.

[Tompouce]

Yeah, I expected this too.
I can expect a slight raise when "Infamous" is aired.
I am like you. Lois will be back and most important Clark will be back too:D "Life" will be the same as before the disaster (Lana arc lol)

[6-Super-Man -5]

I am like you. Lois will be back and most important Clark will be back too:D "Life" will be the same as before the disaster (Lana arc lol)

To me, the Lana arc wasn't so bad, but I am happy, that Clois is back.
And fans will probably be back to normal.

[bartez]

Net Show Viewers 18-49 Rating 18-34 Rating/
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[Tompouce]

To me, the Lana arc wasn't so bad, but I am happy, that Clois is back.
And fans will probably be back to normal.
ahhhhhhhhh, I just notice your avatar, are you crazy ? I am gonna make an heart attack:p
For sure, I think things will come back to normal. It is the first time I felt angry about an episode like this...

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ahhhhhhhhhhhh. a second glance..THE AVATAR...I fainted lol

[Jack-El49]

It was Power. If Power was good, then people would stay to see the payoff, no matter what other shows are there. Good stories = good ratings, that's what the viewers want.

Exactly! I tried making that argument to someone who made the excuse after Bulletproof ratings came out that low viewership had to do with Bones airing opposite SV. I haven't seen Bones and understand it's entertaining but if you're a SV fan, you watch SV. If SV is disappointing, you turn the channel.

Bulletproof was good and Power benefitted from it. Power stunk and Requiem suffered from it. Hopefully, this crappy episode won't drag down Infamous, which looks to be a pretty epic episode and if marketed correctly, will pull all those who voted with their remotes last night right back to SV.

[Clana Kent]

IMKHSRFSN = I'M Kinda Hoping Smallville Returns For Season Nine? :p

[Superman's_Wife]

PS3 actually took the time to write a decent episode instead of stealing fanfic ideas from 13 year old girls- it`s exactly hat I thought))))))...but the girl was probably not 13, but 10)))))

You guys are being way too charitable. I say this arc read as though it was written by a five year old!

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Bulletproof was good and Power benefitted from it. Power stunk and Requiem suffered from it.
Thank you for summing this up quite perfectly! :)

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IMKHSRFSN = I'M Kinda Hoping Smallville Returns For Season Nine? :p

Yeah, I'm kinda hoping that too! ;)

[DGirlLois4Clark]

It appears Lana's 'Heroic' send off didnt bring in the ratings:D.
I just love that.lol.

[Superman's_Wife]

It appears Lana's 'Heroic' send off didnt bring in the ratings:D.
I just love that.lol.

It appears as though Lana's heroic send off was a big exaggeration. And by big exaggeration I mean flat out lie. She left as a diseased kryptonite woman. Poor Kristin Kreuk! :(

[marcella]

I am like you. Lois will be back and most important Clark will be back too:D "Life" will be the same as before the disaster (Lana arc lol)

ITA

[Clana Kent]

yes this is Smallville and guess what, this is about Superman. Who WILL end up with Lois, not matter how much your clana heart wants otherwise. And Lois will not be his second choice, not because she's a thousand times prettier, smarter and all around a better person than Lana, not because is canon. But because Lois is SO awesome that Clark will fall SO HARD for her, he'll forget Lana ever existed, let alone she was one day his first love. And better yet, Lois will make him gravel so much, work so hard for her love that this pathetic excuse you call Clark Kent will have to become Superman to make her fall in love with him.

And btw, we didn't not turn in because of Lana, we didn't watch because we knew it would be a crappy episode.:rotfl:
It wasn't a crappy episode at all!!! I don't understand you guys :(

First of all, I don't think Lois is prettier or smarter than Lana...
Second, Smallville is BEFORE Superman, so this show shouldn't have any CLois or Superman in it.. It wouldn't be Smallville anymore if it did...

So cut the crap and bring Lana back! :lol: That's a nice line :rotfl: [/arrogant] :p

[thehenry89]

It wasn't a crappy episode at all!!! I don't understand you guys :(

First of all, I don't think Lois is prettier or smarter than Lana...
Second, Smallville is BEFORE Superman, so this show shouldn't have any CLois or Superman in it.. It wouldn't be Smallville anymore if it did...

So cut the crap and bring Lana back! :lol: That's a nice line :rotfl: [/arrogant] :p

my dog coughed up a hairball more entertaining than this episode.

[Superman's_Wife]

my dog coughed up a hairball more entertaining than this episode.

Oh man that is gold right now!!!! Muahahaha!!!

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Second, Smallville is BEFORE Superman, so this show shouldn't have any CLois or Superman in it.. It wouldn't be Smallville anymore if it did...

This old song again. It shouldn't have Lex Luthor either, or Lionel Luthor, or Chloe Sullivan...sigh, need I go on? Oh and Clana should have ended in high school, and Clark should have moved on to Lori Lemaris by now.

Oh wait, you say this is Smallville and they have creative license to change a few things? Like bringing in Lois Lane? Like starting up Clois in a few episodes?

Why that is sensational! Absolutely sensational!!!

*yawn*

Yeah, that's how boring this old song is. Can we move on? The rating still suck right? Yeah, thought so! :)

[LucyK]

my dog coughed up a hairball more entertaining than this episode.
I bet it got higher ratings as well...


Second, Smallville is BEFORE Superman, so this show shouldn't have any CLois or Superman in it.. It wouldn't be Smallville anymore if it did...
Yes, it would actually have good storytelling, interesting plots and not suck so much. But hey, we can't always win...
And btw, Superman is the reason turn in to watch this show. They want to see Clark becoming Superman, not this excuse for a man they turned him into. That's the reason the ratings sucked.

[thehenry89]

Oh man that is gold right now!!!! Muahahaha!!!

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This old song again. It shouldn't have Lex Luthor either, or Lionel Luthor, or Chloe Sullivan...sigh, need I go on? Oh and Clana should have ended in high school, and Clark should have moved on to Lori Lemaris by now.

Oh wait, you say this is Smallville and they have creative license to change a few things? Like bringing in Lois Lane? Like starting up Clois in a few episodes?

Why that is sensational! Absolutely sensational!!!

*yawn*

Yeah, that's how boring this old song is. Can we move on? The rating still suck right? Yeah, thought so! :)

couldnt have said it better myself.

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I bet it got higher ratings as well...

:rotfl:

[Mrs. Superman]

I bet it got higher ratings as well...


:rotfl:

[Clana Kent]

I bet it got higher ratings as well...


Yes, it would actually have good storytelling, interesting plots and not suck so much. But hey, we can't always win...
And btw, Superman is the reason turn in to watch this show. They want to see Clark becoming Superman, not this excuse for a man they turned him into. That's the reason the ratings sucked.
I tune in for the entire cast (love them all), not to see Clark become Supes... I could care less! I just love the show :D

[costas22]

Bulletproof was good and Power benefitted from it. Power stunk and Requiem suffered from it.

Ok,just one question because i think we are missing the point here.If Bulletproof was good,Legion was very good.Why didn't Bulletproof profit from it?Let's be honest.No matter how bad the writing is,Smallville has become dependant on Bones for it's ratings.

[Tompouce]

LucyK, welcome, your avatar is amazing:)

[Superman's_Wife]

I tune in for the entire cast (love them all), not to see Clark become Supes... I could care less! I just love the show :D

You love them all? Then why did you post this just a few minutes ago:


I was happy with this arc, especially because it was Lois-free... Too bad about the mentions :s they really want to please Lois-fans I guess

I have no problem you saying you like Lois-free episodes but it's hard to follow your logic when one post you state you love everyone and then in another you say you love when certain members are gone. Oh, and even mere mentions of a character you *love* bother you? Huh? I don't get that.

[Mrs. Superman]

Ok,just one question because i think we are missing the point here.If Bulletproof was good,Legion was very good.Why didn't Bulletproof profit from it?Let's be honest.No matter how bad the writing is,Smallville has become dependant on Bones for it's ratings.
Legion was an epic episode, with a lot of mythos. The comic book relationship was played up so it was highly anticipated. I dont think that is a good example to disprove the theory that Power affected Requiem's ratings.

[costas22]

Legion was an epic episode, with a lot of mythos and the comic book relationship played up. It was highly anticipated so I dont think that is a good example to disprove that theory. <!-- / message -->

Ok.How about the difference in ratings between Bloodline and Abyss?Why didn't Abyss profit from Bloodline?

[bartez]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.88 mil.

[Mrs. Superman]

Ok.How about the difference in ratings between Bloodline and Abyss?Why didn't Abyss profit from Bloodline?
If I'm not mistaken Abyss discounted NY viewers since they were preempted for the Jets/Patriots game. I think that had an affect, since NY is a huge market (if not the no. 1 market).

[Kevin24]

I honestly think the trailers have more to do with it. If the trailer looks good I have noticed more viewers tune in but when it looks "meh" less viewers tune in.

I also don't remember this episode being advertised as Lana's last episode. I had to go online to actually see a decent trailer for this episode.

[Superman's_Wife]

Ok.How about the difference in ratings between Bloodline and Abyss?Why didn't Abyss profit from Bloodline?

Hello. The entire NYC demo was absent on that one! What did you expect!

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Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.88 mil.

Wow, so the two lowest episodes of the season are part of this Lana arc. Gotta say I'm not surprised.

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If I'm not mistaken Abyss discounted NY viewers since they were preempted for the Jets/Patriots game. I think that had an affect, since NY is a huge market (if not the no. 1 market).

Yes, of course it had an affect. Abyss was horrid, but it would have done a lot better than Bulletproof and Requiem had it not been for the loss o the entire NYC demo!

[costas22]

If I'm not mistaken Abyss discounted NY viewers since they were preempted for the Jets/Patriots game. I think that had an affect, since NY is a huge market (if not the no. 1 market). <!-- / message -->

Of course NY is a huge market.That was why the Abyss early and final rating was low.But i think that the live+7 rating takes into consideration the NY market(i am from another country and i don't know this rating system very well) and it is still below Bloodline's early rating.Look,we can analyse the ratings from many different angles and i am sure that everyone here has a different interpretation about them.However since this theory about Bones affecting the ratings so far has been proved right,i will stand by that.If Infamous puts a strong showing against a Bones episode,i will be the first to say that the improved storylines(and hopefully strong promotion) brought viewers back.

[Superman's_Wife]

Um, random question. What does ITA mean?

[LucyK]

LucyK, welcome, your avatar is amazing:)
Hi, I'm mostly a lurker but sometimes the need to post overcomes me!

And lol it fits you know?


I tune in for the entire cast (love them all), not to see Clark become Supes... I could care less! I just love the show :D
I was going to call you on this but Superman's Wife already did that.

We do have a word for this kind of double standard you know?


Um, random question. What does ITA mean?
I
Totally
Agree

[Kevin24]

Lana did not bring down the ratings. They have had some of the highest ratings when Lana was a cast regular.

If anything it may be that people did not really like the direction of the arc or that Bones is really attracting Smallville viewers since they are now both in the same timeslot.

[LoveHurts38]

So Power got ratings cause of AM debut**smile**

[mr lane]

It wasn't a crappy episode at all!!! I don't understand you guys :(

First of all, I don't think Lois is prettier or smarter than Lana...
Second, Smallville is BEFORE Superman, so this show shouldn't have any CLois or Superman in it.. It wouldn't be Smallville anymore if it did...

So cut the crap and bring Lana back! :lol: That's a nice line :rotfl: [/arrogant] :p

I believe this thread was about the ratings of Requiem

not bashing characters

and i have to agree with who posted that if this was a show about pre superman Lana and clark would have ended in high school

the whole show should have ended when Clark turned 18 because in superman mythos thats when he leaves for his training

but this episode is the last we will see of lana ;)

[Mrs. Superman]

Of course NY is a huge market.That was why the Abyss early and final rating was low.But i think that the live+7 rating takes into consideration the NY market(i am from another country and i don't know this rating system very well) and it is still below Bloodline's early rating.Look,we can analyse the ratings from many different angles and i am sure that everyone here has a different interpretation about them.However since this theory about Bones affecting the ratings so far has been proved right,i will stand by that.If Infamous puts a strong showing against a Bones episode,i will be the first to say that the improved storylines(and hopefully strong promotion) brought viewers back.
Not all people can record the episodes, and it doesnt account for those that caught up with it online. NYC market had an effect, not surprisingly.

Well I honestly think Infamous is gonna take a hit after what we just witnessed. If improved storylines are the real reason then it will have to build on Infamous and beyond. Your Bones theory could be true as well, but I was just saying we can't dismiss the other one simply bc Abyss and Bulletproof had low ratings.

[Superman's_Wife]

Not all people can record the episodes, and it doesnt account for those that caught up with it online. NYC market had an effect, not surprisingly.

Well I honestly think Infamous is gonna take a hit after what we just witnessed. If improved storylines are the real reason then it will have to build on Infamous and beyond. Your Bones theory could be true as well, but I was just saying we can't dismiss the other one simply bc Abyss and Bulletproof had low ratings.

The more I think about it, the more I agree. A lot of people are really pissed about this whole arc, and I know people who literally gave up on the show completely last week and up until today are not willing to go back no matter what.

So the ratings may suffer, but now I'm happy for this month gap. Hopefully people will feel better in a month (because that's a long time) and come back to Smallville. :)

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So Power got ratings cause of AM debut**smile**

Lol. Hey, that could have been a contributing factor for all we know. But yeah, I'd give it more to repeats and false notions of closure.

[costas22]

Most probably,the ratings are influenced by a bit of everything.If at Requiem we knew that Clark would fly,that episode might have got 6mil despite of Bones.And of course all the while this is going on,we don't know how do these ratings affect the prospect of a ninth season.At this point you can't put your finger on a standard rating that each episode will get and if the network is satisfied by these ratings.

[Kevin24]

This is the same thing people said about Chloe losing her memory. They said they would stop watching because of this but that was proven false.

They were praised for taking risks and having Chloe forget her memory but now those same people are mad because they took a risk with Clark and Lana having a tragic ending.

[Mrs. Superman]

The more I think about it, the more I agree. A lot of people are really pissed about this whole arc, and I know people who literally gave up on the show completely last week and up until today are not willing to go back no matter what.

So the ratings may suffer, but now I'm happy for this month gap. Hopefully people will feel better in a month (because that's a long time) and come back to Smallville. :)


Yea I'm hoping the month break will help as well! It only took me a week to change my mind about not watching Requiem. Unfortunately I wish I had more strength to stay away. What can I say..like a moth to a flame. :\

[LucyK]

That was not tragic, that was pathetic. HUGE difference.

[kaam]

So Power got ratings cause of AM debut**smile**
That's one way of looking at it! :D

Any official stats? Sparkle, where are you?

[Kevin24]

That was not tragic, that was pathetic. HUGE difference.

That is what is beautiful in the world two people can see the same thing and have a different opinion of it.;)

[davidbrenton]

This is the same thing people said about Chloe losing her memory. They said they would stop watching because of this but that was proven false.

They were praised for taking risks and having Chloe forget her memory but now those same people are mad because they took a risk with Clark and Lana having a tragic ending.

The ending was fine for me. I just think it should have been at the end of S7 as opposed to interupting an otherwise fantastic S8 with this petty---opps, we forgot to do this, type arc.

And yes, I do think the ratings have started a downward trend. Does anyone know the average ratings for Legion through Requiem? I estimate it's about a 4.0m, which is lower than the first 10 episodes averaged. The sad part is I think the front 10 were building solid momentum, and now unless they do a big marketing blitz, it will be tough to earn back.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Does anyone know if the CW will celebrate this ratings like they did last week:rotfl:

Poor Lana..she has the worst possible ending (Still a victim of life) with poor ratings. Shame:D

[SparkleforSmallville]

Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil.

#14 Requiem ~X*3.88 mil.

Requiem's Final isn't even out yet, and I only put Final ratings on my Chart.

Please, would you guys stop putting inaccurate info on my Chart. I keep it up
to date, and it is one my joys on KryptonSite.:)

[kaam]

I am looking forward to your post on the final ratings, Sparkle.

And Congrats on the 3000 post milestone.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I am looking forward to your post on the final ratings, Sparkle.

And Congrats on the 3000 post milestone.

Oh, thank you! And I reached it in a Ratings thread! Outstanding!

The Finals should be out soon. Hope I wasn't too harsh about my Chart:/
It's really all for fun!

[joesmallville]

Smallville has been under 4 million 3 times this season

One was because of the pre-emption in New York for a NFL game.

The other two? When it went up against Bones. I think Smallville is going to have a hard time cracking 4 million on a consistant basis for the rest of the season.

[costas22]

I agree with joesmallville on this.

[bartez]

Requiem's Final isn't even out yet, and I only put Final ratings on my Chart.

Sorry, my mistake :D

[6-Super-Man -5]

So Power got ratings cause of AM debut**smile**

*Smiles as well*

[Supes4Ever]

Finals are in, decent bump up (for an awful episode for Clark and in general):

Smallville
- 3.932 million viewers
- 2.4/4 HH
- 1.6/4 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34

Source: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/447103881/p/5

[monel49]

After last week's debacle, pretty good numbers. Should hold for a month--we are a faithful bunch of fans.

[costas22]

It will take a special episode to go over 4mil with Bones against Smallville.

[kaam]

Oh, thank you! And I reached it in a Ratings thread! Outstanding!

The Finals should be out soon. Hope I wasn't too harsh about my Chart:/
It's really all for fun!
You are most welcome. :)
I think it was okay to mention that you wanted to stay accurate. :)

[skully]

Nearly 4 mill. Keep going, you good thing. :)

[DGirlLois4Clark]

It will take a special episode to go over 4mil with Bones against Smallville.

Possibly, and fortunately, the end of the epic 'love story' of clana wasnt special enough. Even after being dragged for 8 years..ehehehehehe:p

[LoveHurts38]

It will take a special episode to go over 4mil with Bones against Smallville.

I enjoyed Bones last night:D

[costas22]

Clana was good for a while and it had it's moments but like you said it dragged on for too long.But despite that,their finale could have been so much better.I think some people are writing for Smallville as if they are already at Melrose Place.

[LegendaryU2K]

did that person say The CW network needs to shut down?
Is that person serious?

[SparkleforSmallville]

Thanks for the Final info, Joe!
Ratings So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.16mil. & Live+7= 4.75 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil. & Live+7= 4.99 mil.

#8 Bloodline ~ *4.46 mil. & Live+7= 5.02 mil.

#9 Abyss ~ *3.56 mil. & Live+7= 4.38 mil.

#10 Bride ~ *4.19 mil.

#11 Legion ~ *4.30 mil. & Live+7= 4.89 mil.

#12 Bulletproof ~ *3.85 mil.

#13 Power ~ *4.21 mil.

#14 Requiem ~ *3.93 mil.

OK, now I'm happy!:lol:

[Kevin24]

3.93 that isn't so bad considering the competition on other networks. Is Smallville the highest rate for last night too?

[marcella]

Sv is probably the CW highest rating. That's good

[joesmallville]

did that person say The CW network needs to shut down?
Is that person serious?

Probably.

I agree to a certain extent. When the CW losses Smallville I think the network is done, unless they find a new hit next season. I honestly believe that Smallville and Next Top Model are the only reason the network still exists.

[costas22]

Who said the CW needs to shut down?

[LegendaryU2K]

Probably.

I agree to a certain extent. When the CW losses Smallville I think the network is done, unless they find a new hit next season. I honestly believe that Smallville and Next Top Model are the only reason the network still exists.

90210 which i watch , is doing ok i guess. Also reaper is coming back, another great show that did fair. I think the problem with the CW, they don't promote their network or shows anymore. I am still waiting for tom or someone else on smallville to appear on jay leno or something.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Who said the CW needs to shut down?

I think it was a poster on the Ratings Site.

[costas22]

Oh ok.Because they mentioned it after one of my posts,i thought they meant i said it.

[curiosity]

I'm not glad about the goodbye! Though it keeps the door open for a possible return to Smallville for Lana, since they obviously still love each other :)
I'm SOO glad Lois is second choice now. It's an enormous relief they put it like that!



No, Lois isn't second choice. Lois is Clark's greater love, who's yet to come. He's saving the best for last. :)

[JAMHEXXX]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/3259670778_d9f6acbc2f_o.jpg

The worst ratings of this year are ALL Lana/Clana crap! I'.. throw Abyss a bone because of the NFL playing in the New York market.

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The promotion was good to be honest.It was the first time we got a 40 second trailer.Lana definitely deserved a better send off.I will be the first to jump for joy if Infamous stands tall against Bones and goes over 4.1.It will be tough though since Smallville is up against a show fro the same genre.

Smallville and Bones is not in the same genre. Bones is a procedural.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Finals are in, decent bump up (for an awful episode for Clark and in general):

Smallville
- 3.932 million viewers
- 2.4/4 HH
- 1.6/4 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34

Source: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/447103881/p/5

I'm disappointed that it wasn't over four million, but 3.93 million isn't too bad. I was pretty close with my prediction at 3.90. :)

[JAMHEXXX]

Again, if Power was good, people wouldn't leave.

This is nothing new on Smallville. Magnetic, Spell, Thirst and few more are now not exceptions, but the rule. When the episodes suck, the next episode's ratings suffers.

If Infamous goes over Four Million what will you say?

I am willing to make a bet that Infamous will have better ratings then this pile of crap.

[Dominicus]

Lana did not bring down the ratings. They have had some of the highest ratings when Lana was a cast regular.

If anything it may be that people did not really like the direction of the arc or that Bones is really attracting Smallville viewers since they are now both in the same timeslot.It was because of power, people tuned into the episode, mainly out of curiosity and did not the extreme direction it took, most had no interest in returning for the rest of the arc. It tanked, and the live feed shows the dramatic disinterest. Abyss is the worst. It also shows that ED/Lois does keep a consistent ratings hike. Give credit to where it's due. CLana/Chloe based themes tank on smallville.

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No, Lois isn't second choice. Lois is Clark's greater love, who's yet to come. He's saving the best for last. :)True, people really need to quit being delusional about Clana, when Lana's really the only girl, beside Alicia who was murdered, he dated. He hasn't exprienced new love, or a different kinda of love. Lana will always be his first love, but she will not be his only love, and she will not be his strongest love, because it never survived being tested. The next will be his true, and he will learn to let go, and mature. Clana fans may want to take a note from that book.;)

[ClarkyBoy14]

If Infamous goes over Four Million what will you say?

I am willing to make a bet that Infamous will have better ratings then this pile of crap.

I hope so, but it will be hard. Usually, ratings begin to drop for all series on broadcast television in March/April, the CW didn't promote the return last night and the last two episodes upset a lot of people.

[JAMHEXXX]

Smallville has been under 4 million 3 times this season

One was because of the pre-emption in New York for a NFL game.

The other two? When it went up against Bones. I think Smallville is going to have a hard time cracking 4 million on a consistant basis for the rest of the season.

No, the other Two had Lana in it. Once Lois is back Smallville MAY crack over Four Million again.

That's if this craptastic Lana arc didn't drive all the new viewers away.

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I hope so, but it will be hard. Usually, ratings begin to drop for all series on broadcast television in March/April, the CW didn't promote the return last night and the last two episodes upset a lot of people.

Promotion doesn't really mean crap to most fans of a TV show. Do you really care if Smallville doesn't get a ton of promotion?

I don't care. I know where and when the show will air. I also know when I'm watching total garbage. This entire Lana arc has been garbage and the ratings are reflecting this.

I love how everyone is saying that Bones is Smallville's ratings killer! Lana is the frakking culprit!

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Ok,just one question because i think we are missing the point here.If Bulletproof was good,Legion was very good.Why didn't Bulletproof profit from it?Let's be honest.No matter how bad the writing is,Smallville has become dependant on Bones for it's ratings.

Time will tell concerning your THEORY. I have another theory that Lana sucks and brings down the ratings.

If the ratings go up from here on out I will be correct.
If the ratings stay at the same level or go down you will be correct.

But, I'm pretty sure my theory will be the correct one.

[alejandrita439]

what´s the averange of the season 8 so far?

[ShelbyKent]

If the story is good, an eppie would get good ratings... even if if the show is pre-empted by a sports event or is facing heavy competition from other shows.

The only true ratings killer IMHO for any TV show are: the World Series, the Superbowl, or multiple states power black-outs when the eppie is aired. These I would give allowances for.

Other wise: bad story= bad eppiie = unhappy fans = bad ratings

[BadToad]

Actually, I suspect that this latest arc, plus another hiatus, is going to hit the upcoming eps very hard. It won't have much to do with their quality, I just think there are people out there really wondering if tuning back in on March 5 is what they want to do. I'm one of them.

[JAMHEXXX]

what´s the averange of the season 8 so far?

4.13 million

[costas22]

Time will tell concerning your THEORY. I have another theory that Lana sucks and brings down the ratings.



Let's leave Bride out of the equation.From Legion to Requiem we have had 4 Lana episodes.Two of them were over 4mil and two of them were under 4mil(the ones against Bones).So it's not necessary that Lana brought down the ratings.The most Lana-centric episode of them all(Power) got one of the seasson's highest ratings.Something about Bones that you said earlier.I said they were from the same genre because i though that Bones was also Sci Fi.I haven't watched it,just from what i have gathered here and there.

[JAMHEXXX]

Let's leave Bride out of the equation.From Legion to Requiem we have had 4 Lana episodes.Two of them were over 4mil and two of them were under 4mil(the ones against Bones).So it's not necessary that Lana brought down the ratings.The most Lana-centric episode of them all(Power) got one of the seasson's highest ratings.Something about Bones that you said earlier.I said they were from the same genre because i though that Bones was also Sci Fi.I haven't watched it,just from what i have gathered here and there.

Bones is a procedural about a forensic anthropologist and a FBI agent who run around solving murders from victims bones.