Clana/Lana Resolution - All Discussion

[thehenry89]

post your feelings on how they wraped up the lana storyline. Do you think they did a good job?



MOD NOTE from WickedJenn:

I'm including Clana4Life's post here since she's started these threads and so it will further the discussion.


Thus far I've created the following threads for the three previous episodes -
Clana Revised, Clana Revamped, Clana Resurrected and tonight Clana Resolved. After tonight's episode do you think that the love between Clark and Lana is forever cemented? Was this good closure or even closure at all? Do you think they will ever truly give up or let the dream of being together die? If not, will this place a sort of permanent cloud over Clois?

Please share your thoughts after you've seen Requiem. :)


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[Demien]

No and I hope today she's going to leave the SHOW...I don't like her arriving

[Krypton935]

I just hope they wrap it for GOOD! I don't want Clark whining about her forever. I want them to put a good solid believible ending to this maddness!

[BAMAGIRL]

Hate it so far. I will reserve final judgement after tonight's episode.:mad:

[Jaderoyale]

Heres hoping it all works out.

[LiLViLLiaN]

Just get it over with. Gosh.

[dcmarriott]

I have a terrible feeling that they are going to "resolve" the Clana storyline by having Lana die in this episode, sacrificing herself to save Clark. That would turn Lana into some sort of matyr, and I don't think it would satisfy anyone - the Clana shippers, the Clois shippers or the Chlark shippers. I really hope they don't do that, but I'm willing to bet my own money that they will.

[RedKalEL]

im praying PRAYING it's not gonna be that kryptonite in her skin thing that people are speculating about and if she's does die They have to break up before that other wise that will jsut be an insult to lois by making her the rebound. hopefully clark will see lana is a bit physcotic with her powers like she kills the toyman without hestation or something like that and clark gets pissed at her

[skugers]

well, I'm still waitig to see what's happening in Requiem... I don't want Lana to die, but I don't want her to be some kind of martyr either. I want Clark to get back in his feet. Maybe a cold shower will help :) (I know it's all up to the writers, but I'm hoping anyway)

[skylar]

I will gross my fingers and hope that they finally close the Clana relationship on a good note so Clark won't be crying about it in the next episode when Lois returns.

[RingzTerritory]

I hope they kill her off so theres no hope for lana/clana fans to have on her coming back at all.

[dcmarriott]

I hope they kill her off so theres no hope for lana/clana fans to have on her coming back at all.

Unless the writers decide to do a Zombie-Lana storyline in Season 9.

[skugers]

Unless the writers decide to do a Zombie-Lana storyline in Season 9.
LMAO:lol:

[RingzTerritory]

Unless the writers decide to do a Zombie-Lana storyline in Season 9.

lol that would be an even more pathetic turn for this character, they can destroy lana's character however they want, as long as clark and lois are happily together xD

[rip23]

i doubt that there killing her off from recent interviews she says shes willing to come back for the series finale , i dont think anything would be wrong with dat as long as its nouthing with ck and lana in love thing, wat u guys think?

[WickedJenn]

Locking this and the poll until the episode's over and we actually see how it is resolved.

Again, will reopen after episode has aired.

[thehenry89]

Whenever possible I will turn away when lana's screen.

[kal-el_Girl]

should I watch? should I have a life? oh decisions, decisions =/

[Jack-El49]

Thoughts? How about a case of super lip-herpes? :(

[netlynn]

I say bring it on!! I am so ready for grown-up Clana sex. :p :p

[Justin Murad]

They should have never made a Clana relationship again...
But I want them to have fun this episode, because this is gonna be last kiss, or last - night. xP

[Clana4Life]

Thus far I've created the following threads for the three previous episodes -
Clana Revised, Clana Revamped, Clana Resurrected and tonight Clana Resolved. After tonight's episode do you think that the love between Clark and Lana is forever cemented? Was this good closure or even closure at all? Do you think they will ever truly give up or let the dream of being together die? If not, will this place a sort of permanent cloud over Clois?

Please share your thoughts after you've seen Requiem. :)

[Clana4Life]

My thought is... is that this thread should be deleted. This thread already exists, further down on the list. It's just locked until the episode airs.

I have a few more questions in this thread.

[Clana4Life]

Same topic. Here's to hoping a Mod will delete or merge your thread with the original one. *Raises champagne glass*.

Okay. You've made your point. If a MOD decides to do that, then that's fine, but this discussion has nothing to do with the thread.

[Clana Kent]

I say bring it on!! I am so ready for grown-up Clana sex. :p :p
I didn't even think about that anymore :eek: WHEN IS THIS EPISODE FINALLY AIRING?!?! :rotfl:

Another hour... I can't wait! *goes insane*

[WickedJenn]

Threads merged, will unlock when episode airs.

[thehenry89]

this is without a doubt the most idiotic thing i've seen on SV in 8 years.

[myankskent]

I have no respect for Smallville anymore.

[thehenry89]

I have no respect for Smallville anymore.

I lost my respect for this show last week.

[susangail]

Horrible.

[LiLViLLiaN]

I knew it. UGH.

[unfocused]

The loft scene was fantastic, truly a work of art.

As some people say, "this is Smallville, nothing is written in stone," maybe Lana will be known as a superheroine from now on. And it would be amazing to hear stories about how these two heroes once loved each other so much, but couldn't be together. They still fight for justice in the same world, even though they can't be near each other.

This is a fitting end to something we all knew wouldn't last. Not just any love loss, but the worst. And Clark went through so much pain for one last kiss.

So. Amazingly. Beautiful. :)

[bcooper56]

What i learned from this episode

Clark will always love Lana even more than Lois even if he moves on to her now.

[kyl-el]

The acting was superb in the loft, I will definitely agree with that. I sort of wish that there would have been more deliberation on the roof of the Daily Planet, but there are only so many minutes in an episode...

[paolinki25]

That was probably the worst resolution for Clana ever. Not only did they manage to step all over future Clark/Lois iconic relationship, but they also gave these two characters the most awful send-off ever. Good job, writers! :rolleyes:

[curiosity]

this is without a doubt the most idiotic thing i've seen on SV in 8 years.

I have to agree it was bad. I realized I had forgotten to watch it, and turned it on half way into the episode. It was so stupid, there are no words. Whatever Lana said to Clark was so dumb, and did not even fit. It was more than dumb.

To me, they didn't even seem sad, it seemed contrived, and hollow, and no wonder since it didn't fit with the story at all.

How is it that Lana is keeping superpowers? There was nothing said about Lana's supidity for stealing technology, that she didn't know anything about from Lex, and then absorbing kryptonite. I found it funny, I was laughing at the end of the episode. I could't help it, it was that stupid and unbelievable.

[myankskent]

Lana will always be the great love of Clark's life. This episode had pretty much everything in it that I suspected all along.

[VisionGirl]

Awful. Contrived. Emo-nonsense.

What happened to closure?

Somebody hire some competent writers with reverence for the SOURCE MATERIAL.

[curiosity]

What i learned from this episode

Clark will always love Lana even more than Lois even if he moves on to her now.

I dont' see Lana and Clark as love. Lana told Lex she'd always love him and was with him longer, married him and tried to have a baby with him. This is more than she ever did with Clark.

We all watched Clark ONLY get back with her because he found out she was kidnapped and felt sorry for her. This was a very silly flashback to the past at best.

[creampie]

Horrible horrible clana resolution. Lex threatens to keep Clark from Lana, and Clark just bows down and agrees? What? So disappointed

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I have no respect for Smallville anymore.

Why?

[kszonew]

I didn't like it. I'm not even a Clark/Lana person, though I'm not really a Clark/anyone person to be honest. But tonight my heart goes out to any Clark/Lana fans that were upset with the way their storyline came full circle.

That was downright stupid. YES they had to move on, TPTB weren't going to rewrite Clark's romantic future so they had to part Clark and Lana. But it should have been a parting where they wanted to not had to. Doing it this way, it does sort of make a Clark and Lois pairing look like Clark taking "sloppy seconds", even if it doesn't get written that way down the line. I could say more, but I'm sort of at a loss for words. I just didn't think this episode clicked. I'm starting to feel that the season as a whole isn't.

I'm sure I'm in a minority but I really hope this is the last season. Outside of Clark's character growth from earlier this season, only Tess Mercer and the chance that the Doomsday storyline might get good, has kept me watching. I didn't hate the Miles/Gough pairing like most did, they weren't perfect, but they take a lot of blame when they also did a lot of good outside of their bad. The new "show runners" aren't bad. But if they want to continue they should just do a tv movie in the fall and transition to the suit and cape days. Otherwise I fear that we'll get another 22 episodes of Clark being forced to face his destiny, not choosing to because it's the right thing.

I'm all for a hero facing hardship. But the way it was done tonight I didn't like the whole package.

I doubt it's true, but I'm starting to wonder if there is more of a reason Michael doesn't really want to come back and do some more episodes beyond the possibility of the finale? Maybe he's doesn't want Lex to get the same treatment.

[curiosity]

Lana will always be the great love of Clark's life. This episode had pretty much everything in it that I suspected all along.

If you call that love, I'd hate to see what you'd call hate. There was nothing even remotely close to love in any of it.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I just realized this is it... sad as Lana's departure was...SV just ruined it for the Clark and Lois relationship. No Closure at all I just felt sad and had mixed feelings. So basically we have super Lana, when I thought this was a show about Clark fulfilling his destiny I was wrong.

[kryptonhero25]

despite being anti-clana myself and getting sick of all the drama between them two, that last scene was so moving and powerful. as much as we all hate lana, you cannot deny some sympathy or sadness you felt. i've grown to become really annoyed with her character but those last 5 minutes or so were absolutely beautiful. this is coming from a guy who doesn't choke up that often, but seeing that really got to me. it was so powerful to see the anguish in clark and the true love he had. just him struggling to climb up those stairs was really moving. the episode wasn't that great but that last scene really did it for me in a good way. I felt the acting was really superb on that scene to bring me to that point.
please, everyone, share how you felt about it...

[Otisburg27921]

My husband says my German Shepherd could have written a better episode!

[Larel]

What i learned from this episode

Clark will always love Lana even more than Lois even if he moves on to her now.


Then you have learned false information!

Clark Kent's TRUE LOVE was & always will be Lois Lane & Smallville has officially crapped on decades of lore & legend by having Clana end that way!!

Everyone who knows anything about Superman knows that Lana was a small part of his life & Smallville blew it way out of proportion!:rolleyes:

[TWNik]

There's no way any other relationship will be credible, after 8 years and tonight's episode showing that Clark would kill for Lana.

"I'll fine a way for us to be together" & Clana sex puts to rest any question of Clark being in love with anyone else. He's not. Lana is his true Love.

[DamienCPT]

How can that be viewed by any sane person as closure? No way that it can.

Now, Lana has to come back for one final episode. It is unavoidable.

Will continue this in Speculation forum, as saying any more about it will be spoilery/speculation.

*supresses the urge to vomit*

[Dyanara]

So Lana lives on as a superhero? Thats it this show officially needs to end before it ruins anything else.

[kyl-el]

So is this poll going to be reopened any time soon?

[Theshadow129x]

ugh and ugh and triple ugh. it wasnt truly resolved in the traditional sense. not in the sense that they saw that they werent meant for each other just that they ended it abruptly saying external forces prevented them from being together the whole time. it wasnt fulfilling at all.

[Alexander III]

Once Lois comes back, Lana will become his past. OOPS, I smell REBOUND.

[curiosity]

Whatever happened to making them both just go their seperate ways. Whatever happened to Lana meeting someone while she was gone, and Clark saying he had moved on also, and have them be friends?

Why didn't they address the fact that Lana cannot be left super?

[paolinki25]

How can you respect a show that takes a legend like Clark Kent and turns him into this? I'm sorry, but I cannot respect a show that sacrifices its main character for the sake of a group of shipper fans. If they wanted to write this type of crap, then why not write a show about some random guy with superpowers and named it "Clark's Creek".

[Dyanara]

Lois officially should have never been introduced on this show.

[WickedJenn]

So is this poll going to be reopened any time soon?

Sorry it's very busy on here and I'm in a lot of threads.

Poll opened.

[Absentee]

I love how PS3 left Clark and Lana's story an open-book ending.

I couldn't be more happier. After watching this show for 8 years, I'd have to say they did a great job with wrapping up Lana's storyline. It might not be what most expected but Lana has always been a part of Clark since the beginning and will remain a part of him for as long as he lives.

[lanekent08]

I'm not happy because Clark and Lana should have moved on, and not have this overdramatic ending or tragedy... why can't they be mature???

[TWNik]

Once Lois comes back, Lana will become his past. OOPS, I smell REBOUND.

There's no credibility with Lois, even Chloe/Clark have a bit more crediblity based on their long history if they hooked up, than Lois. However, both Chloe or Lois will look like rebound.

[paolinki25]

I love how PS3 left Clark and Lana's story an open-book ending.

I couldn't be more happier. After watching this show for 8 years, I'd have to say they did a great job with wrapping up Lana's storyline. It might not be what most expected but Lana has always been a part of Clark since the beginning and will remain a part of him for as long as he lives.

Yeah, and I have nothing against Lana always being a part of Clark's life, but this? Seriously? An ending where they both end up miserable and scarred forever? There's absolutely nothing nice or beautiful about this. I'm sorry, but that's not the endearing way in which Clark always remembers Lana Lang. A girl that was meant to be his high school sweetheart.


Lois officially should have never been introduced on this show.

Amen. If you are gonna do a crappy job writing for this iconic character, then don't introduce her at all. Man, sometimes I'm glad they could never get their hands on Bruce Wayne. Chances are they would've destroyed him too.

[Timester]

I love how PS3 left Clark and Lana's story an open-book ending.

I couldn't be more happier. After watching this show for 8 years, I'd have to say they did a great job with wrapping up Lana's storyline. It might not be what most expected but Lana has always been a part of Clark since the beginning and will remain a part of him for as long as he lives.

Far from it. Right now they are on STEP 1 AGAIN. Everything that Clana endured was just ignored. They will just settle down and move on from each other because there is no chance between the two.

How is that good for Clana?

[davidbrenton]

Okay. You've made your point. If a MOD decides to do that, then that's fine, but this discussion has nothing to do with the thread.

I agree. Where are the manners?

[myankskent]

I love how PS3 left Clark and Lana's story an open-book ending.

I couldn't be more happier. After watching this show for 8 years, I'd have to say they did a great job with wrapping up Lana's storyline. It might not be what most expected but Lana has always been a part of Clark since the beginning and will remain a part of him for as long as he lives.

Well, you got a nice ending to your ship. Congratulations and I'm not being scarcastic about it either. I can be a stand-up guy about this.

[Mrs. Superman]

I think it was a cop out. Since when does the universe conspire against a couple EVERY TIME they get together. I realize we are watching a show about an alien with superowers, and that's not very realistic, but I still expected more from this! Just horrible. The scene was sad and I wish they would've just left together to go crime fighting elsewhere for the rest of their lives and leave Oliver Queen in charge of Metropolis. Now he was what made this episode interesting IMO.

[thehenry89]

Amen. If you are gonna do a crappy job writing for this iconic character, then don't introduce her at all. Man, sometimes I'm glad they could never get their hands on Bruce Wayne. Chances are they would've destroyed him too.

are you kidding they'd would have made him a crack head or some kind of nympho :rolleyes:

[CKWannabe]

i wonder if there has EVER been a character on ANY show that brings out more emotions in viewers like Lana Lang has for 8 years?

[myankskent]

Far from it. Right now they are on STEP 1 AGAIN. Everything that Clana endured was just ignored. They will just settle down and move on from each other because there is no chance between the two.

How is that good for Clana?


It's not, but it also means that Clana can never be overpowered by any ship in the future. They are the ship.

My thoughts on this? I really feel for Clark's character. The guy doesn't even get to make a choice in his life. If I were him, I'd probably want to take some kryptonite and kill myself. Just unbelievable.

[Absentee]

Yeah, and I have nothing against Lana always being a part of Clark's life, but this? Seriously? An ending where they both end up miserable and scarred forever? There's absolutely nothing nice or beautiful about this. I'm sorry, but that's not the endearing way in which Clark always remembers Lana Lang. A girl that was meant to be his high school sweetheart.


I think they've established the fact that Lana is more than just his high school sweetheart. All of us have different ways of seeing this "ending"... it already happened. There's no turning back now.

And who's to say they're miserable? I think there's a reason WHY it was left open-ended. Where there is life, there is hope.

[Kal El 12]

Good thing the writers didn't have clark invest in some blue kryptonite. If he had that he could negate the kryptonite coming from lana(making himself human) thus subjecting us to even more super lana

[pbody]

If this arc is to be taken at face value (I'm still not convinced this really happened) then this is the worst episode arc in the history of TV!

[SmallvilleMan]

If I were him, I'd probably want to take some kryptonite and kill myself. Just unbelievable.

No crap.........I would have done it a while ago though.........

As a Clana fan...........I mean what else could you ask for? Except for that overwelming feeling for being a whimp........:lol: I wish they would have dragged it out a little more and allowed for some interaction and happiness for them........

[Timester]

And who's to say they're miserable? I think there's a reason WHY it was left open-ended. Where there is life, there is hope.

It's miserable because it's a fiction show and we all know how the ending is written.

[liana]

I think it was a cop out. Since when does the universe conspire against a couple EVERY TIME they get together. I realize we are watching a show about an alien with superowers, and that's not very realistic, but I still expected more from this! Just horrible. The scene was sad and I wish they would've just left together to go crime fighting elsewhere for the rest of their lives and leave Oliver Queen in charge of Metropolis. Now he was what made this episode interesting IMO.

What is worst is that, with this only exception, it was never the universe, it was always themselves. The writers chose to ignore the fact that they never worked together, because they never trusted each other enough, they never relied on each other enough, and whenever they were together, they were always the worst versions of themselves. All of a sudden, we are supposed to believe that the reason they don't work is because "the universe" (which roughly translates as DC and KK's not wanting to come back this season) doesn't want them together. Right. Go tell anyone who has not been watching this show since season 1. :\

[B_M4N]

Overall this wasn't one of the best episodes but the last few minutes were acted out very well and it was really emotional and it also helps set up a really intense rivalry with Lex if he is brought back for any other episodes.

[SmallvilleMan]

All of a sudden, we are supposed to believe that the reason they don't work is because "the universe" (which roughly translates as DC and KK's not wanting to come back this season) doesn't want them together. Right. Go tell anyone who has not been watching this show since season 1

You know........I don't think there was a small headline on the bottom of Smallville, that said "We're going to do things exactly like the comics and tell the same story."

They had a story and they told it. The only thing that should and is held true is that they don't end up together.

[thehenry89]

This was a cheap shoddy cop out, and I feel cheated, robbed, violated, and disrespected deep down in every fiber of my being.

[Alexander III]

All I can say is that Clana is finally over, OFFICIALLY over.
OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER!!!
OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER!!!
OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER!!!

I'm not sad coz Lana's always holding Clark back!! ALWAYS!!!!!

[SmallvilleMan]

This was a cheap shoddy cop out, and I feel cheated, robbed, violated, and disrespected deep down in every fiber of my being.

That's sad........

[Timester]

They had a story and they told it. The only thing that should and is held true is that they don't end up together.

Because they literally CAN'T. Just like the Pilot. Don't you see that they DELETED the 8 years of Clana?

[paolinki25]

It's miserable because it's a fiction show and we all know how the ending is written.

Right. We already know Clark doesn't end up with her, so yeah, that makes them both miserable and scarred for life. There's no "open end".

[SecretzNLyz15]

Through all of Lana's pushing to making Clark a hero, she's holding him back? Even back in season five, she was telling him to use his abilities for good. The only one holding Clark back is Clark.

[SmallvilleMan]

Because they literally CAN'T. Just like the Pilot. Don't you see that they DELETED the 8 years of Clana?

No, they didn't delete anything.........They gave them the kind of end they deserve. Notice the THEY.......As in them as characters.

[bmwhype]

there are ways to reverse lana's condition (via the ship absorbing the kryptonite), clark donning the blue kryptonite and such.....

[thehenry89]

No, they didn't delete anything.........They gave them the kind of end they deserve. Notice the THEY.......As in them as characters.

no one deserves an ending like that fictonal or not.

[darkone]

The ending was so so sad yet beautiful. Nothing could break their love for each other and I am glad TPTB hammered this into the audiences head. This ship will be remembered for a good while. I'm not sad that it ended, I am happy that it happened.

[SmallvilleMan]

no one deserves an ending like that fictonal or not.

If you know they aren't going to end up together........If you're destined to be apart, then it might as well be with all your love for someone. The circumstances are horendous, but they ended more in love with each other than they ever were.

[Meteror Freak]

I loved the ending. The Lana arc was sooooooooooooo goood!!!!!! I'm looking forward to more of season 8!!!

[luvinChlark]

Did anyone else think that was a little gross? I really had to turn away, not because it was Clana kissing, but the fact that Clark's face was changing colors and about to fall off. It was just weird...
Maybe it was just me.

[Timester]

No, they didn't delete anything.........They gave them the kind of end they deserve. Notice the THEY.......As in them as characters.

An ending is not going back to the BEGINNING. Unless it's time travelling (yes, Mark Millar and Grant Morrison, I'm looking at you).

[SmallvilleMan]

An ending is not going back to the BEGINNING. Unless it's time travelling (yes, Mark Millar and Grant Morrison, I'm looking at you).

No, they didn't go back to the beginning.........

[Alexander III]

It was THIS close to become a kiss of death. Yea agree wit chu, that was abit gross.

[Kreukie]

It was gross, but so sad. Clark wanted it so badly and he just couldn't. :(

[Timester]

No, they didn't go back to the beginning.........

As a relationship? They most certainly did. Again, Clark can't go to Lana because of Kryptonite. That's why she has the necklace again, the symbology of it. The unattainable girl. 8 years and no growth.

[SecretzNLyz15]

I'm not sure if it's really the beginning all over again. BOTH know just how much they love each other this time around, and they've got the experiences of being together in their memory forever. I honestly don't know where Lana would go from here besides leaving Smallville and Metropolis to help people; maybe she'll open a new branch of ISIS in Star City or something.

Knowing that Lana is supposed to be Clark's confidante in the future means that she'll lose the kryptonite. Whether it's years or decades in Smallville time, who knows.

[Timester]

I'm not sure if it's really the beginning all over again. BOTH know just how much they love each other this time around, and they've got the experiences of being together in their memory forever. I honestly don't know where Lana would go from here besides leaving Smallville and Metropolis to help people; maybe she'll open a new branch of ISIS in Star City or something.

Clark "loved" her since he was a little kid. And, here we are, Clark still "loves" the same ideal of Lana. There is no growth in Clark. I care less about Lana.

[davidbrenton]

An ending is not going back to the BEGINNING. Unless it's time travelling (yes, Mark Millar and Grant Morrison, I'm looking at you).

WOW!! Timester. You, of all people, are unhappy with the end?

I can't believe it. You were the one inspiring faith in all us non-believers before the arc started!

[SmallvilleMan]

As a relationship? They most certainly did. Again, Clark can't go to Lana because of Kryptonite. That's why she has the necklace again, the symbology of it. The unattainable girl. 8 years and no growth.

No, they most certainly didn't.......There's a little difference between googling eyeing a girl from a far and not being able to get within a distance of her isn't the same as.........Reaching a the highest level of love you can have for someone and knowing you can never be together. Well at the same time knowing what you have to do for the world, because of what you've been through with her.

[luvck]

As a relationship? They most certainly did. Again, Clark can't go to Lana because of Kryptonite. That's why she has the necklace again, the symbology of it. The unattainable girl. 8 years and no growth.

I couldn't agree with you more. That wasn't closure at all.

[KalEl1208]

lol it wasn't that bad at all. they just wanted ppl to know how much it actually was hurting Clark to kiss Lana even tho he wanted to so bad.

I thought that was one of the best/saddest scenes in Smallville. I'm already ready for this season on DVD haha.

[Timester]

WOW!! Timester. You, of all people, are unhappy with the end?

I can't believe it. You were the one inspiring faith in all us non-believers before the arc started!

Because I wasn't expecting the ending being the beginning.

I don't hate the ending per se, it's just it made pointless any growth Clark made romantic-wise.

[Karafan1]

I thought the effects were kinda gross, but I guess they needed to show what would happen to Clark if he kissed her..

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Did anyone else think that was a little gross? I really had to turn away, not because it was Clana kissing, but the fact that Clark's face was changing colors and about to fall off. It was just weird...
Maybe it was just me.

It was a bit gross, yeah. But it was still very sad.

[davidbrenton]

Because I wasn't expecting the ending being the beginning.

I don't hate the ending per se, it's just it made pointless any growth Clark made romantic-wise.

I agree. The ending was "nice", but it wasn't growth. There was essentially no point to the arc because they are still a big ol' question mark, and Lana left him with THE SAME words she left him with in the fake break up video "I LOVE YOU"

Ridiculous, circumventive plot. It did not drive us anywhere but in a circle.

That's my rant. But, I'm vindictively glad you're dissapointed. I can't lie.

[dru-zod2501]

retarded Clark was willing to committ suicide just for 1 last kiss. dumb as hell, or should I say dumb as Clark?

[Timester]

No, they most certainly didn't.......There's a little difference between googling eyeing a girl from a far and not being able to get within a distance of her isn't the same as.........Reaching a the highest level of love you can have for someone and knowing you can never be together. Well at the same time knowing what you have to do for the world, because of what you've been through with her.

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where you started.

For what then?

[Theshadow129x]

like i said this isnt considered a resolution. it just isnt. from the very beginning things have gotten in their way whether it was their insecurities or other people dating them something kept them apart. the thing is they didnt come to the conclusion that they arent perfect for each other because the show made them being together an obstacle. it didnt give them a true relationship for them to feel like they arent meant to be in a relationship. it just...ugh. the way the show set it up is that Lois is to be Clark's rebound since he cant get close to Lana. I really hate that.

In the comics, and i know this is a different Superman telling that the comics, but Lana and Clark figured out that they arent good together because she either couldnt deal with him being different, or they just didnt belong together, none of this crap. its just...dumb.

[davidbrenton]

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where to started.

For what then?

The writer's chose the symmetry route to end the relationship. The problem with symmetry...it doesn't change from end to end.

[myankskent]

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where to started.

For what then?


I totally agree. Also, I think that the "Hypnotic" breakup was actually a better breakup because while that, too, was a complete copout, at least Clark made the decision to lie to Lana about the way he felt. With this situation, he had no choice. Oh, excuse me, he made his choice at the beginning of the episode to be with Lana but that choice was taken away from him at the end. So really, what did Clark learn here?

[Kid Collins]

The ending was EPIC!

Clana is over but I'm very happy that Clark and Lana are still very much in love with each other and were forced apart by outside forces!!

The acting from KK and TW was superb!! When Lana started crying, so did I !! :lol:

They are true star crossed couple in SV!! :D

[SmallvilleMan]

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where to started.


He's not with her, because of some of the choices they made.......Just because the physical reason they're apart is green k, doesn't make it the real reason.........And no, Clark isn't where he started at all.

[thehenry89]

Clark hasn't learned anything in 8years why would anyone expect him to be mister knowledge now?

[SmallvilleMan]

For what then?


For what? How about a learning experience for one........You think if Smallville were to transform in the latter years he would make the same mistakes with Lana........I say no.

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Clark hasn't learned anything in 8years why would anyone expect him to be mister knowledge now?

Actually he has......

[davidbrenton]

For what? How about a learning experience for one........You think if Smallville were to transform in the latter years he would make the same mistakes with Lana........I say no.

From a character standpoint, his decisions regarding Lana have proven to have been stunted...as in not developing...as in...yes, it would be the same if he was 14 again.

[Kid Collins]

Hey, Clark passionately kissed Lana for the last time....who cares about a little Green K pain?

He was the MAN! :lol:

[christina]

so as soon as Clark learns Lana is not for him he's super? seriously guys the Clois blinder is shining full force!

[Timester]

For what? How about a learning experience for one........You think if Smallville were to transform in the latter years he would make the same mistakes with Lana........I say no.

What has he learned? That he can't be with Lana because of Kryptonite? We knew that since Pilot.

He CHOOSED to be with Lana tonight, he isn't because he CAN'T.

[thehenry89]

For what? How about a learning experience for one........You think if Smallville were to transform in the latter years he would make the same mistakes with Lana........I say no.

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Actually he has......

what exactly has he learned? "Love conquers all" dont make me laugh. You know I've never bought into that whole "you never get over your first love" bull, the point is you do get over them, and more often then not you look back at your behavior with that person and wonder what made them SO wonderful to begin with.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Hey, Clark passionately kissed Lana for the last time....who cares about a little Green K pain?

He was the MAN! :lol:

:rotfl:

Lovely scene. :D

[davidbrenton]

so as soon as Clark learns Lana is not for him he's super? seriously guys the Clois blinder is shining full force!

It's not that it's "Lana isn't for him" it's the intellectual realization that it's foundation and core is entirely unhealthy. Her decisions and actions are selfishly driven and THAT is what is keeping them apart and ALWAYS has. It's a simple realization that would SYMBOLIZE he is seeing clearly, and looking at reality instead of "fuzz."

Yes, FUZZ!

[Theshadow129x]

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where you started.

For what then?

this is exactly how i feel. it wasnt resolved. never really will be. he'll just move on but still will be wondering what if about him and lana

[thehenry89]

so as soon as Clark learns Lana is not for him he's super? seriously guys the Clois blinder is shining full force!

no one said that, if clark actually manned up instead of letting other people do his job for him ie lana, chloe, oliver ect then he'll be superman.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

[quote=paolinki25;4432400]Yeah, and I have nothing against Lana always being a part of Clark's life, but this? Seriously? An ending where they both end up miserable and scarred forever? There's absolutely nothing nice or beautiful about this. I'm sorry, but that's not the endearing way in which Clark always remembers Lana Lang. A girl that was meant to be his high school sweetheart.


Its just awful that he has to remember Lana as his last love. Why couldn't they have a decent end to the relationship. I don't know I'm just at a loss for words...:confused:

[SmallvilleMan]

What has he learned? That he can't be with Lana because of Kryptonite? We knew that since Pilot.

He CHOOSED to be with Lana tonight, he isn't because he CAN'T.

What has he learned? Hmmmm.......Let's see here, how about an open and honest relationship is best? How about your choices have consequences? The list goes on.........yea it does.

[Theshadow129x]

It's not that it's "Lana isn't for him" it's the intellectual realization that it's foundation and core is entirely unhealthy. Her decisions and actions are selfishly driven and THAT is what is keeping them apart and ALWAYS has. It's a simple realization that would SYMBOLIZE he is seeing clearly, and looking at reality instead of "fuzz."

Yes, FUZZ!

but Clark nor lana never came to that realization so it becomes moot. irrelevant. it'd be pertinent if they came to that when she got the powers or still when the lex kryptonite thing popped up but it never occurred to them at all. just that things kept them apart beyond their control.

[SmallvilleMan]

what exactly has he learned? "Love conquers all" dont make me laugh. You know I've never bought into that whole "you never get over your first love" bull, the point is you do get over them, and more often then not you look back at your behavior with that person and wonder what made them SO wonderful to begin with.

What has he learned? How to be in a relationship for one.........How to deal with that while having powers..........To repeat myself, the list does go on......

[davidbrenton]

What has he learned? Hmmmm.......Let's see here, how about an open and honest relationship is best? How about your choices have consequences? The list goes on.........yea it does.

He hasn't learned choices have consequences, otherwise he would have acknowledged that Lana's obsession with power was the reason for their inability to be together. He hasn't learned that it's wrong to steal a person's memories even if you have "good intentions". He is ACTING more like superman, yes. But, intellectually and emotionally, he is not growing THAT MUCH.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite. It was like a damn rollcoaster, you have giggles and ****, but at the end, you end where you started.

For what then?

Its an open book even if he does move on with Rebound Lois...Lana can pop up anytime and Lois is in the trash once again...:\

[thehenry89]

What has he learned? Hmmmm.......Let's see here, how about an open and honest relationship is best? How about your choices have consequences? The list goes on.........yea it does.

If he had learned any of that we wouldnt have been subjected to 3 years of bad descion making secrets lies, and other horrific life lessons the list goes on in this catagory as well.

[liana]

You know........I don't think there was a small headline on the bottom of Smallville, that said "We're going to do things exactly like the comics and tell the same story."

They had a story and they told it. The only thing that should and is held true is that they don't end up together.

This isn't about the Comics. Not everyone that doesn't like Clark and Lana relationship as it has been portrayed in SV is necessarily a Comics fan. This is about how the show has been written since season 2. In season 1, Clark and Lana was a nice ship. However, at some point, it has been anything but. The characters have been making very poor decisions concerning their relationship. As a clana fan, you must agree with me on that. In fact, as far as I remember, clana fans had been consistently complaining, and with reason, about how Clark and Lana relationship has been written. I don't like retcons. I think you should be faithfull to the story you are telling. For years they had consistently showed us Clark and Lana not being good for each other, essentially because of their own actions. Now, all of a sudden "The Universe" is the reason? It just doesn't sound believable to me.

I also had another big problem: I am a very romantic girl. I happen to like happy endings, and Superman always seemed to me like a guy that defies everything, and bets on a relationship against all odds. The very fact that SV ends Clark and Lana that way, kills any possible happy ending for both of them in the future. My point is: if their relationship is not meant to be, then don't ruin the future for EITHER of them. Wouldn't it be much better to end them as friends, with hope that in the future they could be happy with someone else, considering that the producers knew that they were not allowed to change the outcome?

It just bothers me a lot that everything in Smallville has to be linked to a non succesful love. Lex is a villain because Lana doesn't love him. Clark becomes a hero because Lana left him with a DVD good bye, and then later, because she becomes poison to him. Davis will probably embrace his full Doomsday side because of Chloe. Why can't villains just be villains and heroes just be heroes? Why a failed relationship HAS to be the cause for everything?:(

[Timester]

How to deal with that while having powers...

How so? Clana only had sex when both had powers or non had. How is that dealing?

[myankskent]

Its an open book even if he does move on with Rebound Lois...Lana can pop up anytime and Lois is in the trash once again...:\


Well, technically, she won't be because Lana will still be kryptonite infected. I guess that is TPTB's way of making sure that Clark never has an affair with Lana. Great job PS3! You covered all the bases.:rolleyes:

[davidbrenton]

but Clark nor lana never came to that realization so it becomes moot. irrelevant. it'd be pertinent if they came to that when she got the powers or still when the lex kryptonite thing popped up but it never occurred to them at all. just that things kept them apart beyond their control.

It was not beyond they're control. Lana chose it. She chose POWER.

Clark's realization of this would have equaled growth in my mind. Just because they don't realize it doesn't make it "fantasy". It's still very much reality, except, they are not at a point where they are mature enough to understand that which is disappointing.

[double L]

No, and who cares about the rest of the season?

[SmallvilleMan]

How so? Clana only had sex when both had powers or non had. How is that dealing?

What does having sex have to do with dealing?


This isn't about the Comics. Not everyone that doesn't like Clark and Lana relationship as it has been portrayed in SV is necessarily a Comics fan. This is about how the show has been written since season 2. In season 1, Clark and Lana was a nice ship. However, at some point, it has been anything but. The characters have been making very poor decisions concerning their relationship. As a clana fan, you must agree with me on that. In fact, as far as I remember, clana fans had been consistently complaining, and with reason, about how Clark and Lana relationship has been written. I don't like retcons. I think you should be faithfull to the story you are telling. For years they had consistently showed us Clark and Lana not being good for each other, essentially because of their own actions. Now, all of a sudden "The Universe" is the reason? It just don't sound believable to me.

According to YOU, it isn't a nice ship........Clana fans complaining? I'm sorry, it's kind of hard to hear a mouse when loud lions are roaring about their hatred for Clana. For years, they showed YOU that they aren't good for each other. Not me.


I also had another big problem: I am a very romantic girl. I happen to like happy endings, and Superman always seemed to me like a guy that defies everything, and bets on a relationship against all odds. The very fact that SV ends Clark and Lana that way, kills any possible happy ending for both of them in the future. My point is: if their relationship is not meant to be, then don't ruin the future for EITHER of them. Wouldn't it be much better to end them as friends, with hope that in the future they could be happy with someone else, considering that the producers knew that they were not allowed to change the outcome?


How is a happy ending, ending with some one other than the man you love? Or the girl you love? I think them lying to themselves that they should be friends would be wrose.


It just bothers me a lot that everything in Smallville has to be linked to a non succesful love. Lex is a villain because Lana doesn't love him. Clark becomes a hero because Lana left him with a DVD good bye, and then later, because she becomes poison to him. Davis will probably embrace his full Doomsday side because of Chloe. Why can't villains just be villains and heroes just be heroes? Why a failed relationship HAS to be the cause for everything?

I don't see that.........Lex was already a villian before Lana (Remember Simone and the fake baby).......And the fake baby was when things were going great for them. Clark is Clark, Lana loving or not loving him wasn't going to change him.

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If he had learned any of that we wouldnt have been subjected to 3 years of bad descion making secrets lies, and other horrific life lessons the list goes on in this catagory as well.

Yeah, trying to find happiness.......What a fool he is......don't make me laugh.

[WalterK]

It's an interesting resolution, but not in a good way. If you take Lois out of the Superman mythos, then the story with Lana is kind of interesting. It's the Smallville version of Romeo and Juliet, except that Lana and Clark were dysfunctional until Lana suceeded in her quest for power, got the power she craved so desparately, and this made her into a better person, worthy of being a Superhero, mature enough to remind Clark about how their new Superhero Club works.

Anyway, I don't think CLOIS fans will be happy with this elevation of Lana, although it has been heading in this direction over the years. I think of it as an alternate universe, or maybe just an alternate TV show. As far I 'm concerned, I think the Lana arc is fairly self contained. People can just forget about and enjoy the rest of the season.

What I don't quite understand is how the writers can do some occasional really nice episodes, and then do something as horrible as the Lana arc. Oh, well. Nobody's perfect, except for Lana. She wasn't perfect before, but she seems perfect now. :)

[I_am_LEX]

When you love someone, its hard to let go... especially for Clark who has this secret and doesn't think people will accept him. Even at 21 or 22, however old they're supposed to be, things can be difficult. I think this episode actually says more about Lex Luthor than it does about Clark or Lana. Lex prly planned this whole thing somehow, knowing what would happen. Clever bastard. Anyways... I can accept this as the end of the relationship, I mean, how do you keep Clark away from people he loves? He never gives up which is Superman's greatest attribute, i think. In this case, as time passes, he'll see that there are others who will accept him as he is...of course in disguise as superman or the red/blue blur... in conclusion... im good with this ending. lets just move on.

[SHY_ICE]

I loved it. The last scene in the barn was priceless....I don't know why everyone is hating. To love someone so much and then have them taken away from you so cruelly is heartbreaking. It does not make Clark weak. I'm guessing all the people hating on the Clana relationship has never experienced true love. And becuz he loves Lana so deeply does not mean he will never be able to love Lois like that. He loves Lana but knows he can never be with her again. Shout....how many of us have vowed to be head over heels in love with someone but when push comes to shove we learn to move on. I would not call that a rebound or sloppy seconds....it's life. Nothing is wrong with that. I don't know why people can't just accept the show for what it is. If it is ever so terrible, why watch it.

That's just my opinion.

[netlynn]

Clark wanted it so badly and he just couldn't. :(

It was sad. I felt so terrible for both of them.

[thehenry89]

Yeah, trying to find happiness.......What a fool he is......don't make me laugh.

Trying to find happiness and cling to the past with a death grip are two different things. These two have been shown to be anything but happy for the last 7 years, and I'm sorry but when somone who supposedly loves you prefers an alien clone and an evil billionaire to you, then your relatonship is going nowhere fast. And there's nothing funny about either of those situatons.

[Timester]

What does having sex have to do with dealing?

There is anything more, relationship-related?

[SmallvilleMan]

Trying to find happiness and cling to the past with a death grip are two different things. These two have been shown to be anything but happy for the last 7 years, and I'm sorry but when somone who supposedly loves you prefers an alien clone and an evil billionaire to you, then your relatonship is going nowhere fast. And there's nothing funny about either of those situatons.

Hahahhaha.......Oh, there isn't:eek:

Anyways, clinging to the past? Really? Don't quite see it that way. Actually, they have been shown happy. And who said Lana preferred either to Clark........I'm pretty sure it was Clark who did his fair sure of pushing Lana away.

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There is anything more, relationship-related?

Huh?

[Timester]

Huh?

Dealing with the powers.

[SmallvilleMan]

Dealing with the powers.

You mean being in a relationship with his powers? I wasn't talking about being physical.........It's about having all his powers and being in a relationship with a person.

[thehenry89]

Hahahhaha.......Oh, there isn't:eek:

Anyways, clinging to the past? Really? Don't quite see it that way. Actually, they have been shown happy. And who said Lana preferred either to Clark........I'm pretty sure it was Clark who did his fair sure of pushing Lana away.

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:rolleyes: so it's clark's fault that lana entered a love less marrige, with a man who would fake a pregnacy and commit murder. Clark made lana fall in love with bizzaro, and actually preferer a clone to him. It was clark who made lana kidnap and torture a man. Yeah because clark pushed lana away all her actions are null and void, where's the personal responsibility? She put the suit on herself no one put a gun to her head and made her seek these awsome powers. Clark hasn't learned anything and there's no reason to belive he ever will.

[SmallvilleMan]

so it's clark's fault that lana entered a love less marrige, with a man who would fake a pregnacy and commit murder. Clark made lana fall in love with bizzaro, and actually preferer a clone to him. It was clark who made lana kidnap and torture a man. Yeah because clark pushed lana away all her actions are null and void, where's the personal responsibility? She put the suit on herself no one put a gun to her head and made her seek these awsome powers. Clark hasn't learned anything and there's no reason to belive he ever will.

Yeah, because Lana entered a marriage with Lex on her own.......Oh wait.........And she didn't prefer a clone to him........Yeah, kidnap and torture a man who threatened to kill the man you love.......She is responsible for her actions, that's why she isn't with Clark as is Clark..........She put on the suit and according to Clark it was the best thing ever, until he knew she could absorb green k.

He has learned something and you can believe he won't, but he has.

[Timester]

You mean being in a relationship with his powers? I wasn't talking about being physical.........It's about having all his powers and being in a relationship with a person.

For that he had his parents.

[Theshadow129x]

^ no he learned nothing. he's going to blame himself again because if it "wasnt for his abailties lana wouldnt have to leave and be in this situation". that will be his quote for the next episode. i promise that.

[SmallvilleMan]

For that he had his parents.

Not especially.......


^ no he learned nothing. he's going to blame himself again because if it "wasnt for his abailties lana wouldnt have to leave and be in this situation". that will be his quote for the next episode. i promise that.

Of course he will........He'll be sad and upset.........Why wouldn't he be?

[liana]

What does having sex have to do with dealing?



According to YOU, it isn't a nice ship........Clana fans complaining? I'm sorry, it's kind of hard to hear a mouse when loud lions are roaring about their hatred for Clana. For years, they showed YOU that they aren't good for each other. Not me.

So, you do believe that all of Clark and Lana's decisions about their relationships were perfect, and that they never made mistakes, and that their mistakes never made them unhappy? The only thing that always separated them was fate? Because that is the main point I am objecting here. The way I see it, for seven years what kept Clark and Lana appart and unhappy were their decisions, not outside forces. But, you are right that is my opinion. That was essentially what I meant about them not being good for each other. They just kept hurting each to other a lot.


What does having sex have to do with dealing?
How is a happy ending, ending with some one other than the man you love? Or the girl you love? I think them lying to themselves that they should be friends would be wrose.


But that is just the point I was making. The writers knew that they couldn't change the end of the story, so they should never have persistently written Clark and Lana to be forever miserables, because that ruins any possibility of future happiness for them. That is the point I don't like about it. And that is part of what I am questioning here. If I know that I am going to write a story about Mr. Darcy as a teenager, before he meets the Bennets, and I already know that I am not allowed to change the fact that Elizabeth Bennet is the great love of his life, I won't write him as being forever in love with his first teenage love. I might even write a lovely first love for him, that made him very happy, and helped him to become a better man, but I would give this love story a nice ending, that wouldn't nullify futures possibilities of happiness for either of them. What is the point of ruining the future? That is not supposed to be what the journey is about.


I don't see that.........Lex was already a villian before Lana (Remember Simone and the fake baby).......And the fake baby was when things were going great for them. Clark is Clark, Lana loving or not loving him wasn't going to change him.

I never meant the relationship: I meant that the SV story was written to make failed love stories the reason for everything. You see, Lex wanted Lana so badly that this need made him a villain. Wether we like it or not, that was the story. The two examples you gave me are exactly what I meant: Simone was payed by Lex to breakup Clark and Lana, because he wanted Lana. The fake baby plot was about Lex not being sure of how Lana felt about him (he feared that she would go back to Clark), and he did it purposelly so that she would marry him. So, as I said, it was about a girl.

Now Clark becoming hero was directly linked to Lana not being with him. The show was also very clear on that point. The first time that Clark made the decision to embrace being a hero and do his training, itwas because he believed Lana was dead, and he felt there was nothing left for him. He said that to MM in season 7. Afterwards, when she came back, he also said that he wanted to stay in the farm forever with Lana. Then, in season 8, once again he made the decision because Lana left him. So, essentially, Clark becomes Superman because of a girl. In fact, in Legion, Irma said that Lana was part of the reason Clark became Superman. So, a girl.

And now, it appears the story is repeating itself, and I fear that Chloe will be the final reason why Davis will become Doosday. Once again, it is always about one girl. :(

[thehenry89]

Yeah, because Lana entered a marriage with Lex on her own.......Oh wait.........And she didn't prefer a clone to him........Yeah, kidnap and torture a man who threatened to kill the man you love.......She is responsible for her actions, that's why she isn't with Clark as is Clark..........She put on the suit and according to Clark it was the best thing ever, until he knew she could absorb green k.

He has learned something and you can believe he won't, but he has.

You can't seriously be trying to justify kidnap and tourture, whatever.

First lana entered into her relationship with lex by herself, she slept with lex, she accepted his propoal the intent was already there.

Lana put the suit on, so anything that happens to her while wearing it is her fault.

[SmallvilleMan]

So, you do believe that all of Clark and Lana's decisions about their relationships were perfect, and that they never made mistakes, and that their mistakes never made them unhappy? The only thing that always separated them was fate? Because that is the main point I am objecting here. The way I see it, for seven years what kept Clark and Lana appart and unhappy were their decisions, not outside forces. But, you are right that is my opinion. That was essentially what I meant about them not being good for each other. They just kept hurting each to other a lot.

No, they made mistakes and mistakes that made them unhappy...........I think it was a combo of their decisions and fate...........They did hurt each other a lot, but my point is that they made each other the happiest as well.


But that is just the point I was making. The writers knew that they couldn't change the end of the story, so they should never have persistently written Clark and Lana to be forever miserables, because that ruins any possibility of future happiness for them. That is the point I don't like about it. And that is part of what I am questioning here. If I know that I am going to write a story about Mr. Darcy as a teenager, before he meets the Bennets, and I already know that I am not allowed to change the fact that Elizabeth Bennet is the great love of his life, I won't write him as being forever in love with his first teenage love. I might even write a lovely first love for him, that made him very happy, and helped him to become a better man, but I would give this love story a nice ending, that wouldn't nullify futures possibilities of happiness for either of them. What is the point of ruining the future? That is not supposed to be what the journey is about.


I don't think they made them be miserable forever.......Clark and Lana will have to move on......Of course I would have written it differently as well. I think they should have had much more happy time, but that's the tv world.


I never meant the relationship: I meant that the SV story was written to make failed love stories the reason for everything. You see, Lex wanted Lana so badly that this need made him a villain. Wether we like it or not, that was the story. The two examples you gave me are exactly what I meant: Simone was payed by Lex to breakup Clark and Lana, because he wanted Lana. The fake baby plot was about Lex not being sure of how Lana felt about him (he feared that she would go back to Clark), and he did it purposelly so that she would marry him. So, as I said, it was about a girl.

Ok, then how about trying to kill Victor and examining AC.......Sending those guys to test Clark's strength? A lot of things Lex did evil were unLana related........


Now Clark becoming hero was directly linked to Lana not being with him. The show was also very clear on that point. The first time that Clark made the decision to embrace being a hero and do his training, itwas because he believed Lana was dead, and he felt there was nothing left for him. He said that to MM in season 7. Afterwards, when she came back, he also said that he wanted to stay in the farm forever with Lana. Then, in season 8, once again he made the decision because Lana left him. So, essentially, Clark becomes Superman because of a girl. In fact, in Legion, Irma said that Lana was part of the reason Clark became Superman. So, a girl.


No, that point wasn't made clear at all.......Clark would have been who he was no matter what........


You can't seriously be trying to justify kidnap and tourture, whatever.


I don't remember saying it was right:rotfl:


First lana entered into her relationship with lex by herself, she slept with lex, she accepted his propoal the intent was already there.


Yeah and the goodbye letter was there too........She was tricked into a relationship and played........People can be mentally had when they're weak and casted aside by the ones they love.


Lana put the suit on, so anything that happens to her while wearing it is her fault.

Such as fulfilling Clark's dream?

[Theshadow129x]

Not especially.......



Of course he will........He'll be sad and upset.........Why wouldn't he be?

Clark still hasnt let go of the fact that Lana isnt as innocent as he used to think in season 1. he still hasnt gotten it in her head that she made the decision for grasp the power suit. just that it was great that she got it because they could be together. thats the person he is and always has been...to blame himself for his and lana's misfortunes. if shes sad its his fault even if he is on the toilet because she had too much dairy, Clark blames himself because shes in stomach pain. thats the clark kent the show has set up. even though this was about how lana's decisions kept them apart Clark wont see it that way...he just doesnt grow as a character when it comes to her on this show.

[BatAngel5]

I didn't think it was a good ending for them, after all the Clana drama they could have come up with a better ending for the relationship. However, it was better than killing her off.

[SmallvilleMan]

Clark still hasnt let go of the fact that Lana isnt as innocent as he used to think in season 1. he still hasnt gotten it in her head that she made the decision for grasp the power suit. just that it was great that she got it because they could be together. thats the person he is and always has been...to blame himself for his and lana's misfortunes. if shes sad its his fault even if he is on the toilet because she had too much dairy, Clark blames himself because shes in stomach pain. thats the clark kent the show has set up. even though this was about how lana's decisions kept them apart Clark wont see it that way...he just doesnt grow as a character when it comes to her on this show.

Or maybe Clark doesn't care..........Or maybe it doesn't matter........Or maybe he looks beyond it.

[thehenry89]

Yeah and the goodbye letter was there too........She was tricked into a relationship and played........People can be mentally had when they're weak and casted aside by the ones they love.

well you got the last part right she was weak, and decietful and manipulative, and vengful, and a whole bunch of other things that are not excusable just because your boyfriend breaks up with you.




Such as fulfilling Clark's dream?

I guess if his dream was to never be able to be close to his "true love" again because she permantly radiating kryptonite (which is all her fault), then yes dream fufilled:rolleyes:

[mr lane]

There was in no way any closure here at all

First of all Clark and Lana were torn apart they didn't concede to the ending of their relationship like it should have been. It's been made aware that Lana is never coming back they should put a lid on that relationship

but instead we see Lana with super human powers who has now absorbed so much kryptonite her and clark can not be together

my biggest question is

wth is she gonna do with her powers? be supergirl? I thought we already had a supergirl!

as long as lana has those powers there will never be closure for Clark or Lana

[SmallvilleMan]

well you got the last part right she was weak, and decietful and manipulative, and vengful, and a whole bunch of other things that are not excusable just because your boyfriend breaks up with you.

No, she wasn't manipulative......Vengeful? Like everyone else in the world.......Weak, at points, but as a whole no.......

And it wasn't just a break up, it was a lie.......And then he tried to back track.



guess if his dream was to never be able to be close to his "true love" again because she permantly radiating kryptonite (which is all her fault), then yes dream fufilled

Was before that......

[Jack-El49]

I thought the arc was a grotesque hommage to Lana in order to satisfy some need to deify a character that in mythos played a very small part in Clark's life. SV Lana was a combination of Lana and Lori Lemaris. To me, the most sickening part was her lecturing him about morality when he thought he had Lex trapped in the semi. Since when does Lana have the moral high ground to lecture Clark on morality?

Was there the proper closure on the relationship? No - only time and a new love will put finality in the romantic feelings Clark has for Lana but that's the best that can be said - much like it can be said for almost everyone's first love.

Does this mean that Lana will be #1 in Clark's heart forever? No. She'll be #1 until she becomes a distant #2 or #3. Will he always have love for her? Sure, no question. But that was the worst effort at showing closure in a relationship that the writers could have put out there short of killing Lana off.

But it did depict one thing for sure: Lana is Clark's kryptonite at this point in his development and life. And Lex truly turned out to do the world a favor by keeping Clark from staying by her side.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

I thought the arc was a grotesque hommage to Lana in order to satisfy some need to deify a character that in mythos played a very small part in Clark's life. SV Lana was a combination of Lana and Lori Lemaris. To me, the most sickening part was her lecturing him about morality when he thought he had Lex trapped in the semi. Since when does Lana have the moral high ground to lecture Clark on morality?

Was there the proper closure on the relationship? No - only time and a new love will put finality in the romantic feelings Clark has for Lana but that's the best that can be said - much like it can be said for almost everyone's first love.

Does this mean that Lana will be #1 in Clark's heart forever? No. She'll be #1 until she becomes a distant #2 or #3. Will he always have love for her? Sure, no question. But that was the worst effort at showing closure in a relationship that the writers could have put out there short of killing Lana off.

But it did depict one thing for sure: Lana is Clark's kryptonite at this point in his development and life. And Lex truly turned out to do the world a favor by keeping Clark from staying by her side.

They have destroyed Lana and you put it so well, but they also have made Clark a victim in this mess. And I believe that SV has made Lana the only true love for him.
:\

[Theshadow129x]

I thought the arc was a grotesque hommage to Lana in order to satisfy some need to deify a character that in mythos played a very small part in Clark's life. SV Lana was a combination of Lana and Lori Lemaris. To me, the most sickening part was her lecturing him about morality when he thought he had Lex trapped in the semi. Since when does Lana have the moral high ground to lecture Clark on morality?

Was there the proper closure on the relationship? No - only time and a new love will put finality in the romantic feelings Clark has for Lana but that's the best that can be said - much like it can be said for almost everyone's first love.

Does this mean that Lana will be #1 in Clark's heart forever? No. She'll be #1 until she becomes a distant #2 or #3. Will he always have love for her? Sure, no question. But that was the worst effort at showing closure in a relationship that the writers could have put out there short of killing Lana off.


But it did depict one thing for sure: Lana is Clark's kryptonite at this point in his development and life. And Lex truly turned out to do the world a favor by keeping Clark from staying by her side.

really really good post! couldnt have said it better myself

[BadToad]

This whole thing was handled terrible. If all I cared about was Lana? Then yes, I'd be thrilled. But I thought this show was about more then Lana. I appear to be terribly, horribly misinformed. It is only not all about Lana if KK is not in the episode. I stand corrected.

Since I actually care about Clark, this arc was just about as horrible for him, and his character, as it could be. We really needed Clark broken down again? We really needed to see a Clark who is unable to move forward in his emotional life unless pushed by tragedy? We really needed to make it appear as though Clark's future romantic life is forever tainted? We really need Clark reminded by someone, AGAIN, about how killing is wrong? How does any of this serve Clark as a character? Oh, thats right, it doesn't.

And Lana is off to be a superpowered hero? Oh Good Lord! If Lana was so amazing, then she should've been able to find peace in who she was, not in some artifical skin she put on that made her something she was never meant to be. Sure, she goes out the selfless martyr, but the lengths the show went to whitewash her, and sanctify her, made it impossible, IMO, to remotely root for her. Maybe if the show hadn't laid it on quite so thick. Maybe.

I had hoped that TPTB could be capable of using this opportunity to serve BOTH the character of Lana and Clark. Show them growing up. Allow them both an ending that respected what they had with each other, planted the seeds for the friendship they'd have in the future, and left us with the sense that as sad as it is that things didn't work out for them, there would be love and happiness in their futures. But I guess PS3 thought the overly melodramatic soap opera approach was far better. JMO

[xrayvision]

This whole thing was handled terrible. If all I cared about was Lana? Then yes, I'd be thrilled. But I thought this show was about more then Lana. I appear to be terribly, horribly misinformed. It is only not all about Lana if KK is not in the episode. I stand corrected.

Since I actually care about Clark, this arc was just about as horrible for him, and his character, as it could be. We really needed Clark broken down again? We really needed to see a Clark who is unable to move forward in his emotional life unless pushed by tragedy? We really needed to make it appear as though Clark's future romantic life is forever tainted? How does any of this serve Clark as a character? Oh, thats right, it doesn't.

And Lana is off to be a superpowered hero? Oh Good Lord! If Lana was so amazing, then she should've been able to find peace in who she was, not in some artifical skin she put on that made her something she was never meant to be. Sure, she goes out the selfless martyr, but the lengths the show went to whitewash her, and sanctify her, made it impossible, IMO, to remotely root for her. Maybe if the show hadn't laid it on quite so thick. Maybe.

I had hoped that TPTB could be capable for using this opportunity to serve BOTH the character of Lana and Clark. Show they growing up. Allow them both an ending that respected what they had with each other, planted the seeds for the friendship they'd have in the future, and left us with the sense that as sad as it is that things didn't work out for them, there would be love and happiness in their futures. But I guess PS3 thought the overly melodramatic soap opera approach was far better. JMO

Couldn't have put it better myself BadToad. Objective and to the point.

[Rift]

So it doesn't end with a bang, but a soap-opera-esque whimper, with Super-Lana riding off into the sunset and Clark pining once again.

As I've said before, how the heck is Lois ever supposed to live up to the Legend of Lana Lang? They've declared their undying love for each other and now she's made the ultimate sacrifice, and is STILL ALIVE.

How do they keep him from obsessing over her for the rest of his days? How does he ever give up trying to find a cure? Are we supposed to believe that once she's gone, he just shrugs his shoulders and says, "oh well, time to move on...oh hey Lois!". sheesh.

I thought when she left the first time, it was weak, but at least it made sense in that they had started growing apart. Now matters are worse. Lois can never measure up to the Lana that Clark has lost here.

At least until the next episode. :rolleyes:

[dru-zod2501]

resolution? where? what was resolved?

[thehenry89]

Tonight the PS3 vilifyed two heros in order the deify lana...good job guys.

[liana]

No, they made mistakes and mistakes that made them unhappy...........I think it was a combo of their decisions and fate...........They did hurt each other a lot, but my point is that they made each other the happiest as well.

I really think the show made a point of making them miserable together most of the time. There were moments of happiness, of course, but most of the time, they were hurting.




I don't think they made them be miserable forever.......Clark and Lana will have to move on......Of course I would have written it differently as well. I think they should have had much more happy time, but that's the tv world.

I think they did. It would be completely differently if they had written their relationship as a good, healthy relationship, with lots of happiness between them, and give them a proper nice ending, without so much misery involved. But that is just me. I would have loved clana, if it was written as it should have been: you know, happy and carefree, with all the inocense that comes from the first love. It had the potential to be something beautiful, but as most of things in Smallville, the relationship never reached its potential, and it became, at least for me, too much angst. What made it worse it was the fact that I knew there wasn't no pay off. I can bare some angst, provided that I know that there is some happy ending in sight. At some point, I couldn't even watch it any more, or even enjoy it or root for it. :o I am ashamed to admit that I want characters to live in a good and happy place. I wish SV would have given us that for clana. For so much angst, the least they could have done was to make they really find closure.




Ok, then how about trying to kill Victor and examining AC.......Sending those guys to test Clark's strength? A lot of things Lex did evil were unLana related........


I never said that everything evil that Lex ever did was unLana related. I said that the turning point for him, the moment were he made the actual choice was Lexmas. He was presented with a future, where he could have chosen right, and he really believed that was the future. Nevertheless, after realizing that if he was good, he would have Lana's love, but she would die, because he wouldn't have the power to save her, he decided that he wanted power. That was the trigger. Since the begining, Lex has been struggling with good and evil. But the turning point that made him decided to become evil was that episode. His love for her was the trigger. And when I say that, I meant nothing against Lana as character. I am just pointing out that it should never, ever been portrayed as linked with girl. Ever. The reason should be Lex alone, but saddly, it wasn't.




No, that point wasn't made clear at all.......Clark would have been who he was no matter what........


We have to agree to disagree on that one. For me, it was clear. And once again, it has nothing to do with Lana as a character. It has mostly to do with Clark. In early seasons, Clark dreamed about saving strangers, and he even said to the principal that he wanted to help people (I guess it was season 2), but at some point this was lost. All of a sudden, everything that Clark yearned for was a normal life. He didn't want to have to divide himself into saving the world and having a relationship. He wanted to be with the girl. Consistently, IMO, we had Clark deciding to be proactive whenever he believed that Lana was lost to him. Why? Because the writers decided that losing her should be his main motivation to become Superman. And that gave fuel to most of Lana hating in the show. People started to hate Lana's character, because they believed she was holding him back. When, in fact, the relationship was used by the writers as an excuse to not progress Clark, in order to have season after season. Bad choises, IMO. Clark should have had a steady progression along the show.

However, bad choices or not, by the end, failed romantic relationship was what allowed Clark to progress, every single moment he had a progression in the show. :\

[Clana4Life]

I know that I'm late posting on the threads. I just finished watching it. Wow, they put a knife through my heart with those last 5 minutes. That was intense. And I don't think anyone will forget that ending for a long time to come. I feel like KK and TW should get an award for that performance. They did a superb job in showing the emotional torment of parting. Even if you didn't like the scene, at least admit how good the actors were. Wow, literally Clark risked dying just to have one last kiss with her. Does your heart not break for that? Lana balled her eyes out. Clark fell to the ground. Oh my goodness. Emotions were flying. They sold that last scene. They almost made me cry. And I haven't almost cried since Jamie Sullivan died on A Walk to Remember. In any event....
Closure = none. I can still hear Clark crying out, "Don't go. Don't go." Oh, I don't know if I can write tonight. This is too sad.
I feel like they did leave it open. I imagine if a cure is found she will come back. They are partners. Clark said this twice tonight. It's ironic that even Lex called them star-crossed. Well, TPTB, you have shown us how much they love each other and how they will remain in each other's hearts. Their love goes on and I won't close the book on them just yet. To answer my own question, yes, I believe this puts a big cloud over Clois. Clark and Lana's feelings are more intense than ever and nothing is worse than to wonder about "What might have been? What could be?" That in and of itself will be something that Clois will come against. Where are you Chloe? Clark really needs a hug right now.

[ckent23]

Ok so I am a clois fan, but after these last few episodes I see who Clark truly wants to be with, Lana. That last scene was so powerful and sad. Image if that was you and there person you loved. It was so sad. It's going to be hard getting used to no more Lana at all I'll admit. But with the two of them at the end kissing and crying saying they love each other, that strong of a relationship and feelings for each other, how could you ever see Clark truly wanting to be with Lois or know that he has lost his love for Lana. We all know Lana will always be his real love. It will be harder than ever to accept Clois after this episode. Agreed?

[Clana4Life]

Ok so I am a clois fan, but after these last few episodes I see who Clark truly wants to be with, Lana. That last scene was so powerful and sad. Image if that was you and there person you loved. It was so sad. It's going to be hard getting used to no more Lana at all I'll admit. But with the two of them at the end kissing and crying saying they love each other, that strong of a relationship and feelings for each other, how could you ever see Clark truly wanting to be with Lois or know that he has lost his love for Lana. We all know Lana will always be his real love. It will be harder than ever to accept Clois after this episode. Agreed?

Totally. It's about who Clark wants to be with. And Clark wants to be with Lana. If it were me, I'd be heartbroken. I'm heartbroken now. If it were me and I were Lana, I'd stay. I'd watch him from a distance. Talk on the phone, try to help without getting too close. I'd stay...until it became unbearable hard. I can't see Clark truly wanting to be with Lois or anyone else after this. Please don't bring any Clois this season. Everything is way to raw for Lana, for Clark, for me. :(

[Watching Smallville]

I just don't know what to say. I still don't understand why this show treats the Lana character the way it does. I really don't get it. They've turned her into a superhero who radiates kryptonite. That's just laughable to me. There's nothing in the entire eight years of SV to indicate that Lana wanted to be a superhero. So now all of a sudden, this is her life's dream? She's supposed to be hopeless in love with Clark, so why did she like Bizarro better than Clark? Why did she fall in love w Lex and then become obsessed with getting revenge? Why is she a witch? Why is she a vampire? I'll never understand this character. And that's all I have to say about it.

[mlauenstein]

Then you have learned false information!

Clark Kent's TRUE LOVE was & always will be Lois Lane

You have learned false information!

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/14-1.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/60-1.jpg

and on a relevant side-note
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/16-1.jpg

[fortress7081]

ok so i am a clois fan, but after these last few episodes i see who clark truly wants to be with, lana. That last scene was so powerful and sad. Image if that was you and there person you loved. It was so sad. It's going to be hard getting used to no more lana at all i'll admit. But with the two of them at the end kissing and crying saying they love each other, that strong of a relationship and feelings for each other, how could you ever see clark truly wanting to be with lois or know that he has lost his love for lana. We all know lana will always be his real love. It will be harder than ever to accept clois after this episode. Agreed?



amen!!

[Watching Smallville]

You have learned false information!

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/14-1.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/60-1.jpg

and on a relevant side-note
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/16-1.jpg

Hilarious!:rotfl:

[ginnyfan]

I voted "It was alright."

So much was left unaddressed. The scene with the necklace gives me hope that at some point Lana would have to confront Clark about his nostalgic view if their relationship and maybe after that Clark would have had to face the changes in Lana since high school. That's not to say that they would have broken up but if not... they would have had to reach happily ever after without sweeping some glaring problems under the rug.

So the lead into heroic Lana was not heroic IMO. I think that needed to be addressed before happily ever after Clana.

But apart from those things... I could appreciate Clark and Lana's happiness. The last scene did tug at my heartstrings I admit. As someone suggested on another forum, perhaps Clark could take Lana to the fortress and neutralize the Kryptonite in her suit.

Those last moments were well acted. And Clark braving the effects of Kryptonite to kiss her... oh man. That's so romantic. But it could have been much better. *sigh* Clana happy ending or not, it could have been much better.


You have learned false information!

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/60-1.jpg

and on a relevant side-note
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/lois-lane/16-1.jpg

:rotfl:

[Brizzle]

It was a cop out seriously how is Lois supposed to live up to Lana's meaning to Clark?

[MountainSniper]

Hi Henry89,


Trying to find happiness and cling to the past with a death grip are two different things. These two have been shown to be anything but happy for the last 7 years, and I'm sorry but when somone who supposedly loves you prefers an alien clone and an evil billionaire to you, then your relatonship is going nowhere fast. And there's nothing funny about either of those situatons.

Your argument doesn’t ring true because of the standard issue lack of context that is so prevalent in the Lana Lang/Kristin Kreuk bashing on the K-site.

Lana Lang does not love either Bizzaro or Lex more than Clark so why try to imply such by lack of context or ignoring the facts. All you are doing is cheapening your argument.

Lana Lang made a choice and killed Bizzaro. That is fact. She didn’t prefer Bizzaro to Clark and proved it by actually killing Bizzaro. So trying to imply she loves Bizzaro more than Clark just leaves a huge gap in your argument that makes it easy to slam dunk it.

Regarding Lex Luther considering what she has said about him and what she has done about and to him since she found out about the fake babe and ended her marriage most likely if Clark wasn’t around as a tempering influence Lex would be dead.

Trying to play the Lana loves/prefers/cares more about Bizzaro & Lex over Clark is just a poor argument that reveals desperation more than any logical counter points against the Clark/Lana romance.



: It was clark who made lana kidnap and torture a man. .

No it was Lionel that is responsible for bringing the wrath of Lana Lang down on his head by blackmailing her and then attempting to murder her in Noir by hiring a hitman to kill her when she tried to deliver the information she was collecting on Lex to the Daily Planet.

Here is a revelation for you which I learned in the Balkans and continue in the Land of Bad Things. When someone tries to kill you (or your buddies) and they are above the rule of law (like Lionel) then return the favor with violence of action. Such a logical response doesn’t make us any more evil than Lana Lang.

BTW Lana never tortured anyone. It was crazy Lady in the cabin. However several times in the show Lionel and Lex have been in the lab with some poor sod doing their Dr Aribert Heim impression.

Cheers Mountain Sniper

Hi SecretzNLyz,

BTW love your handle!


Through all of Lana's pushing to making Clark a hero, she's holding him back? Even back in season five, she was telling him to use his abilities for good. The only one holding Clark back is Clark.

So who is going to be blamed for Clark not jumping into the suit next episode now that Lana Lang is glowing green toast?

Who are the mob of angry villagers with their torches and pitchforks of the K-Site going burn at the stake every week now that Kristin Kreuk is off the show and making movies?

Cheers Mountain Sniper



Hi Timester,


As a relationship? They most certainly did. Again, Clark can't go to Lana because of Kryptonite. That's why she has the necklace again, the symbology of it. The unattainable girl. 8 years and no growth.

Actually Clark didn’t get Lana Lang in Season 1 because she didn’t feel about it the same way he felt about her. Proof of this is when she did take the necklace off a couple episodes in etc she didn’t immediately dump Whitney and start dating Clark.


That's not what I'm talking about. It's the fact that Clark is back at step 1, that he isn't with Lana not because of growth or moving on, but because of Kryptonite?

You know Timester I think this statement from you illustrates your central problem and why you just can’t accept the Clark & Lana relationship as it is written on Smallville.

Clark isn’t back at step 1 because step 1 was Clark with unrequited love with Lana Lang. It was never the kryptonite necklace. The necklace was just a plot device to explain why two neighbor kids the same age in farm country didn’t hang out together before the Pilot episode.

Now eight years later it is not unrequited love but instead mutual love so it is very freaking different from the pilot episode.

The problem the LL/KK bashers in general have is they are not going to happy with the Clark/Lana relationship just not working out but only with total blood and guts destruction with the Clana ship being torpedoed and doing a Titanic.

The Smallville powers that be wrapping up the Clana ship are just not going to write Clark suddenly getting revelations from Allah and coming to his senses and kicking Lana to the curb, putting on the suit and flying off as Superman to kiss Lois on the roof of the Daily Planet.

There are simply too many Clana fans of Smallville to even consider doing a hatched job on the Clana relationship. I know from reading the K-site it appears that everyone but a demented few Clana nuts hate Lana Lang but what do you expect from hanging out on a site that focuses on LL/KK bashing.

Just be content in the reality that Clark Kent doesn’t end up with Lana Lang on Smallville. You won and now Lana Lang is gone. It’s over and the final scene might not have been perfect for you but you & your ship are the ones holding the gold metal so why not be a little gracious in victory.

And that is just my 2 dirhams worth.

Warmest regards to all,

Cheers Mountain Sniper

[davidbrenton]

No it was Lionel that is responsible for bringing the wrath of Lana Lang down on his head by blackmailing her and then attempting to murder her in Noir by hiring a hitman to kill her when she tried to deliver the information she was collecting on Lex to the Daily Planet.

Here is a revelation for you which I learned in the Balkans and continue in the Land of Bad Things. When someone tries to kill you (or your buddies) and they are above the rule of law (like Lionel) then return the favor with violence of action. Such a logical response doesn’t make us any more evil than Lana Lang.

BTW Lana never tortured anyone. It was crazy Lady in the cabin. However several times in the show Lionel and Lex have been in the lab with some poor sod doing their Dr Aribert Heim impression.


Ummmm....Unless they are actively trying to kill you, no I think it's very arguable, that it's not "above the rule of law". If it were, the law would state such.

Lana was the one who ordered the torturing of Lionel. Lana has certainly not been above reproach, but it's her status as a tragic figure. I can appreciate that. I just hope her arc was not at the expense of Lois & Clark's relationship fruition. That's ultimately what I've been watching for, no offense, or ill will to Lana Lang. She had a beautiful ending, and I just hope we get a semi-start, "almost" finish to Lois & Clark, which is pretty much a hope and a dream at this point in the season.

The only hope is if TW signs for another season. But, as of now that's up in the air, which is the reason (Or driving force) behind so much animosity behind Lana's return. It certainly was the reason for mine.

[__jb]

Disappointing...

I wanted to see Clark end the Clana relationship...

I'd say that this ending puts a capper on any future Clois relationship...

I don't see why PS3 wasted our time by building up our hopes with the Clois relationship if they were just going to tear it down by bringing Lana back again...

[skugers]

When Chloe told Clark about living in the past (Lex related) I couldn't help thinking it fitted so well to hie relationship with Lana. Sadly, it didn't ring a bell in his head. No, this Clark was totally oblivious and head over heels for Lana Lang. Come one, we're not in highschool anymore!!!

[Rebecca <3]

Disappointing...

I wanted to see Clark end the Clana relationship...

I'd say that this ending puts a capper on any future Clois relationship...

I don't see why PS3 wasted our time by building up our hopes with the Clois relationship if they were just going to tear it down by bringing Lana back again...

I agree with you on that one.

Also, I don't think Lana and Clark got the closure they should have received. I understand that Lana is Clark's first love and all, but they should have kept at that. It was a sad ending and I'm not even a Lana fan at all.

I don't like the fact that Clark and Lana aren't together by choice. They were forced apart instead of making the choice that they just don't work out. That they were destined to be just friends. This gives them hope that some day Lana will loose the kryptonite and they will be together for life!

No. It doesn't work that way. Where does Lois fit in that? Since season 8 started we have seen Clark becoming Superman. Lois brings out the man in Clark not the love sick puppy he is with Lana. It just seams like at this point Clark doesn't deserve Lois at all. They butchered any chance for Lois and Clark the way it's supposed to be.

I just don't know why they did this. It was a dumb episode. No one got closure. It's pretty much open. Lana can come back and ruin everything like she has been doing since her return. She should have just stayed a High School Sweet heart rather than this hero she was never supposed to be. Now she's going to go out and save people? Lame.

No happy "Hey we should just be friends and do our own things" ending.

It's more like "Hey we were forced into this, and maybe there is hope we can get out of it and be together for life woooot" ending.

[deaner1232]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!
I was fine with lana coming back just so Clark could realize he had moved on from her. But the way they ended this Lois is now his silver medal. I'm just gonna rewrite this in my own head as i watch from now on cause i don't like.

Lana: Clark I Love you
Clark: meh (stares and Lois's bum as she walks by)
Sorry Lana i'm not feeling this so i'm gonna bounce.
Lana: Look me in the eye and tell me you don't love me.
(Clark not even paying attention walks away)

[FlyAlreadyDamnit]

This episode had so much potential. There could have been a very emotionally intense scene, where Clark CHOOSES Lois over Lana... maybe not outright, but symbolically at least, and Lana could have somehow acknowledged the fact that she saw something between them. It would have been a good sendoff for her character and been a great segway into the future Clois relationship.

[MozartRequiem]

I agree with what many are saying about how it's disappointing that they took the tragic route on this instead of having Clana just decide to be friends, but the more I think about it, the more I can understand where the writers were coming from. "Smallville" exists As a separate story from the Superman mythos, and many people first came to the show for Clana. For Al and Miles, as we all know, it was considered the "heart" of the show. As such, it makes sense to provide parallelism to their first season together but have them grow SO much emotionally since then that it provides closure, and also that sense of tragedy.

Is this the route I'd have taken? No. But I understand and appreciate it. And I also don't think it discredits Clark's future with Lois. That's like saying that if a husband loses his wife to cancer that any future love he has is lesser. That's not true. He could love someone just as much and in a totally separate, different way. And his first love could always still be in his heart.

[amberdawn]

What resolution? :lol:

[Dominicus]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!
I was fine with lana coming back just so Clark could realize he had moved on from her. But the way they ended this Lois is now his silver medal. I'm just gonna rewrite this in my own head as i watch from now on cause i don't like.

Lana: Clark I Love you
Clark: meh (stares and Lois's bum as she walks by)
Sorry Lana i'm not feeling this so i'm gonna bounce.
Lana: Look me in the eye and tell me you don't love me.
(Clark not even paying attention walks away):rotfl::rotfl:Now that's how it shoulda been. Somehow I picture Lana/KK doing her Dawn Styles impersonation saying: Look me in eye and tell me you don't love me! laterz! :lol:

[MountainSniper]

Hi davidbrenton,


Ummmm....Unless they are actively trying to kill you, no I think it's very arguable, that it's not "above the rule of law". If it were, the law would state such..

If someone hires a hitman to kill someone they are charged with murder the same as the hitman is charged with murder.

I am 90% sure that is US law but not being American I am not 100% sure so if the charge for paying or ordering a murder is different than pulling the trigger in the USA could someone please correct me.


.Lana was the one who ordered the torturing of Lionel. .

Wrong, in what scene in what episode etc did Lana order Lionel to be tortured?

We have seen several times Lionel and Lex supervising/order etc torture ie standing in the lab over a tied up victim but we have never seen Lana doing the same with Lionel or Lana ordering the crazy woman in the cabin to do so etc.

You have nothing to back up your statement but idle speculation backed up by your feelings or whatever.

If you have evidence then present it.


.I just hope her arc was not at the expense of Lois & Clark's relationship fruition.

Who know what the Powers that be will do with Lois Lane.

In the traditional mythos Lois is in love with Superman and treats Clark (who loves her) like crap.

In Smallville so far the powers that be have Lois showing romantic interest in Clark Kent with no Superman in sight while he is indifferent to her and in love with someone else so the traditional Lois/Superman/Clark triangle is all upside down on Smallville.

Clark is supposed to be the unrequited love guy regarding Lois and not the other way around.

How is it going to look when Superman appears and on first sight Lois falls in love with Superman suddenly losing all romantic interest in Clark Kent?

I am glad I am not the one that is going to have to make that look believable.

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

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Hi __jb,


Disappointing...I wanted to see Clark end the Clana relationship...I'd say that this ending puts a capper on any future Clois relationship...

I don't see why PS3 wasted our time by building up our hopes with the Clois relationship if they were just going to tear it down by bringing Lana back again...


I agree that I don’t see why PS3 decided to have Lois Lane develop romantic feelings for an indifferent Clark Kent when in the traditional mythos it is the other way around.

There really isn’t any romantic Clois relationship in the traditional mythos but instead a Slois (Superman/Lois) romantic relationship.

However I wouldn’t worry about Lana since she is gone for good from the show and has lost Clark forever so in the end you did get your end to Clana.

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

[amberdawn]

In the traditional mythos Lois is in love with Superman and treats Clark (who loves her) like crap.
Wrong. In the mythos now, Lois fell in love with Clark, not Superman.

[MountainSniper]

Hi Amberdawn,


Wrong. In the mythos now, Lois fell in love with Clark, not Superman.


Mythos now? Superman has been around since 1936 and for decades the traditional mythos has always been Lois loves Superman and treats Clark and his unrequited love like crap.

It is what makes Superman so entertaining. That the female lead can't see that the guy wearing the horn rimmed glasses in love with her is the same guy she is crushing over for fifty freaking years.

The classic Superman is always the best where Clark being Superman is always scooping the stories out from under the nose of Lois Lane which drives her crazy.

In the best version Clark Kent scoops Lois Lane by being the one that breaks the Superman story by scoring the first interview with Superman which almost drives her over the edge when this hayseed from Smallville scoops the biggest story of the year.

The whole Superman/Lois/Clark triangle is more funny than a barrel of monkeys.

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

[amberdawn]

Mythos now? Superman has been around since 1936 and for decades the traditional mythos has always been Lois loves Superman and treats Clark and his unrequited love like crap.


My point was, they changed it. It's not the way it is anymore.

[Timester]

You know Timester I think this statement from you illustrates your central problem and why you just can’t accept the Clark & Lana relationship as it is written on Smallville.

Clark isn’t back at step 1 because step 1 was Clark with unrequited love with Lana Lang. It was never the kryptonite necklace. The necklace was just a plot device to explain why two neighbor kids the same age in farm country didn’t hang out together before the Pilot episode.

Now eight years later it is not unrequited love but instead mutual love so it is very freaking different from the pilot episode.

The problem the LL/KK bashers in general have is they are not going to happy with the Clark/Lana relationship just not working out but only with total blood and guts destruction with the Clana ship being torpedoed and doing a Titanic.

The Smallville powers that be wrapping up the Clana ship are just not going to write Clark suddenly getting revelations from Allah and coming to his senses and kicking Lana to the curb, putting on the suit and flying off as Superman to kiss Lois on the roof of the Daily Planet.

There are simply too many Clana fans of Smallville to even consider doing a hatched job on the Clana relationship. I know from reading the K-site it appears that everyone but a demented few Clana nuts hate Lana Lang but what do you expect from hanging out on a site that focuses on LL/KK bashing.

Just be content in the reality that Clark Kent doesn’t end up with Lana Lang on Smallville. You won and now Lana Lang is gone. It’s over and the final scene might not have been perfect for you but you & your ship are the ones holding the gold metal so why not be a little gracious in victory.

That's a full load of assumptions and "poster-on-poster" talking (which is agaisnt the rules) that doesn't deserve any answer.

So, just one little thing, I'm an anti-shipper. You might get it.

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Mythos now? Superman has been around since 1936 and for decades the traditional mythos has always been Lois loves Superman and treats Clark and his unrequited love like crap.

Wrong. Lois loved Superman in Pre-Crisis, as she is supposed to love, since Superman is the real person.

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My point was, they changed it. It's not the way it is anymore.

It was never that way.

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Not especially.......

That's why I said sex, the only thing he can't do with his parents...

... Now I have to take away the image on my mind...

[KoopaBowserSSBM]

It ended the same way it began... Clark dropping to his knees due to that green stuff lol.

[MountainSniper]

Hi amberdawn,


My point was, they changed it. It's not the way it is anymore.

So what? Smallville just changed it with Lois having romantic feelings for an indifferent Clark Kent who is in love with someone else.

All it means is Smallville is just the most recent verson.

The classic version is what ruled the roost for decades and that is Lois Lane loves Superman and treats Clark Kent and his unrequited love for her like crap.

Honestly can't see how PS3 are going to explain Lois falling in love with Superman at first sight and suddenly losing romantic interest in Clark Kent in Smallville's take on the mythos.

But I guess there is a good chance they won't even have to adress that unless season 9happens etc.

Warmest Regards, Smoker

[Timester]

Honestly can't see how PS3 are going to explain Lois falling in love with Superman at first sight and suddenly losing romantic interest in Clark Kent in Smallville's take on the mythos.

Because Lois Lane NEVER falls in love with Superman in the Post-Crisis Age.

[Dominicus]

Wrong, in what scene in what episode etc did Lana order Lionel to be tortured?

We have seen several times Lionel and Lex supervising/order etc torture ie standing in the lab over a tied up victim but we have never seen Lana doing the same with Lionel or Lana ordering the crazy woman in the cabin to do so etc.

You have nothing to back up your statement but idle speculation backed up by your feelings or whatever.

If you have evidence then present it.



Well the same can be said of the cabin lady, did we actually see her torture Lionel in Season 7's Action? No, we saw the result of his capture, by restraints. Presumably put there by a hired reclusive huntress, but in actuality all we saw was her watching over Lionel while awaiting orders/reporting.

The only aggressive move we saw her make was her aiming a rifle at Lex, and trying to restrain Lionel before his escape. Other then that all she did was creepily watch, and gave dribbles of water to Lionel.

Lana was not naive to the hunter's methods which is most likely why Lana chose her, and instructed her. The cabin lady showed no will of acting on her own with violence, or sadistic whims. It was carefully orchestrated by a wrathful Lana, playing phone tag with the huntress. And knowing exactly where her cabin was in the dark, indicated she had been there several times before, checking up on the comatose Lionel's progress.

She knew of the goings on in the cabin. Evident when the viewers learned of her involvement in the recapture of Lionel, and speculation on who the Cabin Lady called was confirmed. By Lana's tone, she was in charge and gave specified orders, her own words indicated, and confirmed as much. Not wanting to make any mistakes, indicated obviously for Lionel to be restrained for a period of time. All the while calling Clark and sickly-sweet, lying easily about where she was as if she had done it before.

Those are the implications, deception and motive. To further illustrate Lana’s dark nature, she has threatened Lionel before when he was helpless. Season 6 after Lex's marriage farce, Lionel was injured in IC, in and out of consciousness. Lana messes with Lionel's tubing, causing great pain and also could've cause an air-pocket, killing him instantly. It was only when Lionel mentioned be was protecting Clark did she back off. So Lana is not above or beyond methods of distasteful torture.

The Luthor's had rubbed off on her, turning her into a thief and liar faking her own death at one point.

In regards to murder by hire. The contractor usually gets the stiffer penalty, charges of murder-1. The hired trigger man usually cops to a lesser charge of murder 2 or felony murder in exgange for testimony against the contractor.

[DontCha]

Men, IMO dont get emotions all that much when writing. Its all about visual things used to express what they want.

By the end of the arc, its rather obvious Lana is no good for clark, she destroys him and ruins any chance of Superman which is clark at his strongest, So instead of them having Clark actually talk through this and realize this, they make it so Lana quite literally is Kryptonite, the thing that weakens and destroys superman.

Lois, When she's around clark does not destroy him, he's stronger, he can get close to her without regressing into a love sick child. She boosts superman where as Lana kills him..That is what they are trying to express IMO..

[Timester]

What? We are talking about Shovel Lana? She did ordered the torturing. She SHOVELED her kidnappee.

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Men, IMO dont get emotions all that much when writing. Its all about visual things used to express what they want.

By the end of the arc, its rather obvious Lana is no good for clark, she destroys him and ruins any change of Superman which is clark at his strongest, So instead of them having Clark actually talk through this and realize this, they make it so Lana quite literally is Kryptonite, the one thing that destroys superman.

ITA

[MountainSniper]

Hi Timester,


That's a full load of assumptions and "poster-on-poster" talking (which is agaisnt the rules) that doesn't deserve any answer. So, just one little thing, I'm an anti-shipper. You might get it. ----- Added 2 Minutes later -----...

Very sorry about breaking some rules and hurting your feelings.

Please be assured that any emotional pain I have caused you was unintentional. Please accept my deepest and most sincere apologies.



Wrong. Lois loved Superman in Pre-Crisis, as she is supposed to love, since Superman is the real person. ----- Added 2 Minutes later -----...

Yes, Lois loves Superman and treats Clark Kent and his unrequited love like crap while Superman spends his time (in between saves) trying to convince Lois to fall in love with Clark which never happens which makes it all so very funny.

Cheers Mountain Sniper

[Timester]

Very sorry about breaking some rules and hurting your feelings.

Please be assured that any emotional pain I have caused you was unintentional. Please accept my deepest and most sincere apologies.

And again the assumption. Who said you that I care? :confused:


Yes, Lois loves Superman and treats Clark Kent and his unrequited love like crap while Superman spends his time (in between saves) trying to convince Lois to fall in love with Clark which never happens which makes it all so very funny.

Lois Lane does not love Superman since 1985. Since Clark Kent is the real persona. Before that, Clark Kent was the disguise.

[MountainSniper]

Hi Dominicus,


Well the same can be said of the cabin lady, did we actually see her torture Lionel in Season 7's Action? .

If you didn't see the crazy cabin lady torture Lionel when did you see Lana torture Lionel?



She knew of the goings on in the cabi.n..... Evident when the viewers learned of her involvement in the recapture of Lionel, and speculation on who the Cabin Lady called was confirmed............. By Lana's tone, she was in charge and gave specified orders, her own words indicated, and confirmed as much.....
Those are the implications, deception and motive..

What you posted is your speculation so if you have evidence that Lana tortured Lionel, to what end? information? etc then post your evidence so we can all see it.



. To further illustrate Lana’s dark nature, she has threatened Lionel before when he was helpless..

Which tells Lionel that when he blackmails Lana into marrying his mass murder of a son he shouldn't expect love and understanding.

Also Lionel hiring a hitman to kill Lana confirms that Lana was dead on regarding her opinion of Lionel Luther.


. The Luthor's had rubbed off on her, turning her into a thief and liar faking her own death at one point. .

And why shouldn't she steal money from an evil nut job that tricked her into marriage (dead baby etc) so she can escape?

Don't you see the poetic justice in Lana using Lex's own money and technology to fake her own death and escape? considering what he has done to people why wouldnt' Lana chose to fake her own death to get away from him?

You talk like Lana Lang is stealing money from an orphanage instead of a mass murder.

As for Lionel after the blackmail marriage and paying to have a bullet put into her I personally find Lana's response understandable.



. In regards to murder by hire. The contractor usually gets the stiffer penalty, charges of murder-1. The hired trigger man usually cops to a lesser charge of murder 2 or felony murder in exgange for testimony against the contractor.

Thanks for the information, I was pretty sure that ordering/paying for murder means you are charged with murder.

Well I guess the Lana Lang hit is another attempted murder that Lionel got away with.

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

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Lois Lane does not love Superman since 1985. Since Clark Kent is the real persona. Before that, Clark Kent was the disguise.

And since the creation of Superman in 1936 to 1985 the triangle is the classic one of Lois loving Superman while treating Clark Kent like crap.

Smallville is just another variation where Lois has romantic feelings for Clark while he is indifferent to her and in love with Lana Lang.

Now in Mountain Sniper's opinon the classic one is the best since it is so freaking funny that Lois can't see that the hayseed in hornrims in front of her scooping her stories is Superman.

Warmest Regards, Mountain Sniper

PS time to hop, catch all you crazy kids in a week.

[Timester]

And since the creation of Superman in 1936 to 1985 the triangle is the classic one of Lois loving Superman while treating Clark Kent like crap.

Because there was no Clark Kent. Even Superman treated Clark Kent like crap. Clark Kent was a disguise. Lois loved the real persona.

The idea of Clark Kent as the real character only appeared in 1985. The triangle only appeared with Byrne.

[Dominicus]

Hi Dominicus,
If you didn't see the crazy cabin lady torture Lionel when did you see Lana torture Lionel?

That's the point I brought up precisely, you don't see either torture. It's an assumption of what the director/writer implies, allowing the viewer to interpret whodunit with images shown. Quite frankly, he was held captive, maltreated under dire restraints, not tortured.


What you posted is your speculation so if you have evidence that Lana tortured Lionel, to what end? information? etc then post your evidence so we can all see it.

That question can go both ways, got evidence to suggest she wasn't involved. No, it isn't speculation. It's What writers/director intended for the viewer to see, to put pieces together with collaborating evidence, mainly the phone calls are what ties her, and her actual appearance in the woods, literally berating the huntress. But I didn't say she tortured anyone in that episode. I said she called the shots and knew the goings on, gave direction, which she did, and stipulated the rules to the hired huntress, which is why Lana lambasted her for allowing Lionel to escape. Evidence is in season 7's action.


Which tells Lionel that when he blackmails Lana into marrying his mass murder of a son he shouldn't expect love and understanding.
Also Lionel hiring a hitman to kill Lana confirms that Lana was dead on regarding her opinion of Lionel Luther. But she speculated, suspecting initially, something you're obviously against. :D;)


And why shouldn't she steal money from an evil nut job that tricked her into marriage (dead baby etc) so she can escape?

for the same reason Clark admonished Queen for stealing from Lionel. The premise of the show, the superman mythos of morality. It doesn't make it right. Eventually if you lower yourself to a level of Luthor immorality, tit or tat, so to speak. Your moral fiber is reduced to petty vengeance, the darkness inside grows. Essentially, Lana had become no different then a Luthor, a vigilante but with vengeance in her heart. When she resorted to those same measures, she lost her own identity within the hatred, and greed of power.


Don't you see the poetic justice in Lana using Lex's own money and technology to fake her own death and escape? considering what he has done to people why wouldnt' Lana chose to fake her own death to get away from him?

Because of what it did to her friends, especially Clark. That is also retribution, and Lex did have it coming, but had a consequence that surfaced in last nights episode. I see irony in it all.


You talk like Lana Lang is stealing money from an orphanage instead of a mass murder.

Immorality is immorality, she slept with a mass murdering devil, what does that say about her character? In truth, she has literally gotten away with murder. What does that say about her attraction, rather her addiction to power in-general, physical power, and men of power? It eventually ended up severing her and Clark’s love forever. Tis the point entirely, once your hands are stained in blood, you are no longer pure, forever tainted and corrupted by sin and desire. I guess, I see it like Clark, there's no gray area. It is the same vigilante conflict with Queen and Lex. it might even be why Clana couldn't last, because Lana was not pure in the regard, and Clark is still pure, cursed in other words. Forgive me if ramble on, I clearly need some rest.:eek: Nice talking with ya, Mountain Sniper.

[Demien]

Of course I'm happy...I'm happiest human being on earth right now..just sick a little bit :D

[Fish1941]

Men, IMO dont get emotions all that much when writing. Its all about visual things used to express what they want.

By the end of the arc, its rather obvious Lana is no good for clark, she destroys him and ruins any chance of Superman which is clark at his strongest, So instead of them having Clark actually talk through this and realize this, they make it so Lana quite literally is Kryptonite, the thing that weakens and destroys superman.

Lois, When she's around clark does not destroy him, he's stronger, he can get close to her without regressing into a love sick child. She boosts superman where as Lana kills him..That is what they are trying to express IMO..



I don't think they did a very good job of this. And it seemed to me that all they had achieved was blocked Clark's emotional growth. From now on, Lois will be nothing but a substitute, because Clark cannot have Lana.

[cybevenom]

Last week (as it turns out) i was bang on the money with te Clana resolution.
I was wondering if there are more people who guessed it right?:rotfl:

[netlynn]

From now on, Lois will be nothing but a substitute, because Clark cannot have Lana.

Agreed!!

[drwigginsjr]

Yea i did too

[devilicus rebel]

In the back of my mind I thought it might go down something like that, but I was really hoping that Clark would just dump her and thatd be that.

[Habits]

This was totally foreseeable, they always did the same, lame, boring story line with Lana. This ending was no surprise at all to me. I'm just glad she's gone and now maybe we can get on with something that resembles new plots and Clark can stop acting like such a BDA.

[luthorian]

It was obvious after that spoiler of Lana saying "if I touch that kryptonite.." and knowing they need a quick solution to why Clana can't be together.

[cygnusx1]

a cop out and way to predictable i thought

[costas22]

I was afraid it would come to this the minute i saw the Requiem trailer.It was then that i remembered the scene in the Bulletproof trailer where Lana touches Clark and he collapses.

[melissan02]

Yep, I sure did!
This resolution was as "predictable as mullets at NASCAR!":lol: (in the words of our lovely Lois Lane!;))

I was hoping for something different, some resolution that would show a MUTUAL, mature Clana parting, but sadly and unfortunately for Clark that didn't happen!:(

[REebee52]

I was hoping for something different as well, and thought the trailer cut was trying to lead us to thinking this.
As I've said, it's not how I would have done it. It's contrived, and perhaps less than ideal, but I found it more satisfying than I thought I would. They deserve a poetic ending, I suppose, as their love is a tragedy that was doomed to fail.

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Last week (as it turns out) i was bang on the money with te Clana resolution.
I was wondering if there are more people who guessed it right?:rotfl:

I love you're avatar... Just saying.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I was hoping for another ending, but I wasn't expecting it. I kept hoping that maybe Clark would "man up", but he never did. Pitiful!! Oh well, 27 Days until Infamous!:D

[Dark_Kent]

So according to Smallvile Clark is going to end up with Lois only because he can't be with Lana?

[davidbrenton]

No, this was the predictable ending I think a lot of people saw coming. Personally, I was hoping they were leading us to believe it would end this way all awhile having something better in store for us.

The execution on the last scene was great, but it was not worth 5 episodes and the damage it caused to the fan base.

Sadly, the journey was not worth it in the long run for me.

[thehenry89]

So according to Smallvile Clark is going to end up with Lois only because he can't be with Lana?

so it seems, but I don't buy that.

[margroks]

The only decent resolution to Lana or Clana should have been Lana returning only for Clark to toss her to the cub for good. In fact, that should have happened long ago, preferably before we had to endure any nauseating Clana sex and last night horrible redux was even more sickening than the sex earthquake in Wrath, another awful ep. The hero should be making sure people like Lana are jailed for their crimes (kidnap, torture, framing people for murder, embezzelling, allowing people to die for lack of medical attention) and her eight years of manipulating and mistreating Clark and everyone else around her should also be addressed. Sudenly making her out to be a hero after all that was outrageous. The writers should be fired for that nonsense. Clark is now depicted as no kind of hero since he allowed Lana to get away with her misdeeds and worse, had disgusting sex with her, even after she screwed Biz, said Biz made her happier than Clark. There is something seriously wrong with this Clark that he chases girls who mistreat him as Lana has ever since the beginning of the series.

So no, this was the worst possible non-resolution that could be imagined.

[SandyV]

<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" images="" smilies="" redface.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype> I do not like how the writers decided to end Clana. I understand that it was echoing how Lana has always brought Kryptonite close to Clark<st1></st1>. At first it was the necklace keeping him away; now the poison is in her. That last kiss brought him graphically to his knees like in the Pilot. It was an interesting story, but I do not think it was appropriate.
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Clark and Lana should have realized that they were not destined to be together and parted as friends without Lex poisoning Lana. I do have to say that the scene where she absorbs the Kryptonite was beautifully done and visually stunning. That aside, I was hoping for them to realize that their future is not together because of who they are mentally and not because the universe says so. I guess that was expecting too much.
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I do not know how <st1>Clark</st1> will get over Lana with this ending. I am hoping that they find a way for him to move on without lightswiching him to Lois. He needs to come to some realizations before that relationship has a chance of working, let alone become the iconic relationship of the comics.

[lana 9]

i am a big lana fan but i did not like clana resolution i wish that lana and clark end the relationship mutual and part as friend

[myankskent]

As I've said on other threads, TPTB needed to make sure that the Clana breakup was about the feelings that they had for each other. Instead, TPTB chose another contrived way to keep Clana apart while they both still wanted to be together.

What makes matters worse is that this show has been very consistent with the Clana relationship over the years. They have broken up before, many times, and after every single breakup, they always found their way back to each other. This particular aspect of their relationship needed to be addressed and unfortunately, TPTB chose to make kryptonite the main reason why they won't be together again. It's not closure and it certainly raises the question about whether or not they will be together in the future if Lana were to get cured.

[eas]

As I've said on other threads, TPTB needed to make sure that the Clana breakup was about the feelings that they had for each other. Instead, TPTB chose another contrived way to keep Clana apart while they both still wanted to be together.

What makes matters worse is that this show has been very consistent with the Clana relationship over the years. They have broken up before, many times, and after every single breakup, they always found their way back to each other. This particular aspect of their relationship needed to be addressed and unfortunately, TPTB chose to make kryptonite the main reason why they won't be together again. It's not closure and it certainly raises the question about whether or not they will be together in the future if Lana were to get cured.

Yup... it also raises the question as to why Clark won't be working towards curing her for the rest of the series. I mean, when she was in the Brianiac coma, everyone told him that there was no hope, but he was obsessed with it.

So, him moving on to Lois by season end just makes no sense on any level.

[Superman's_Wife]

i am a big lana fan but i did not like clana resolution i wish that lana and clark end the relationship mutual and part as friend

You didn't like the resolution because there was *no* resolution! This whole arc was a joke, a bad one at the expense of the Lana Lang character (and many other victims) yet again. Seriously, PS3 need to be feeling pretty crappy right now. I wonder if Kristin is at all aware of all the backlash that has been surfacing about her arc...not to imply that this was her fault (she isn't the creative genius who came up with this garbage) but she seemed rather happy about it in interviews and now I'm just baffled by Kristin Kreuk and what her idea of a heroic sendoff is. The woman promised on thing and the show delivered quite another!

[myankskent]

Yup... it also raises the question as to why Clark won't be working towards curing her for the rest of the series. I mean, when she was in the Brianiac coma, everyone told him that there was no hope, but he was obsessed with it.

So, him moving on to Lois by season end just makes no sense on any level.


Right, that adds to the contrivance and continues the character assassination for Clark on Smallville.

[velocity]

You didn't like the resolution because there was *no* resolution! This whole arc was a joke, a bad one at the expense of the Lana Lang character (and many other victims) yet again. Seriously, PS3 need to be feeling pretty crappy right now. I wonder if Kristin is at all aware of all the backlash that has been surfacing about her arc...not to imply that this was her fault (she isn't the creative genius who came up with this garbage) but she seemed rather happy about it in interviews and now I'm just baffled by Kristin Kreuk and what her idea of a heroic sendoff is. The woman promised on thing and the show delivered quite another!
I'd say sacrificing your love for innocent people is pretty heoric.

[eas]

Right, that adds to the contrivance and continues the character assassination for Clark on Smallville.

Yeah, pretty much. Because he's got this depth of feeling for her and it's this epic love affair, right? So why wouldn't Superman move heaven and earth to be with the woman he loves?

By having Clark walk away so easily (in a show where he's never done that towards Lana) they've made the whole thing just completely ridiculous and pointless.

Would it have been too much to ask for real closure? To have the two sit down and have an honest and open conversation like two adults?

[myankskent]

Yeah, pretty much. Because he's got this depth of feeling for her and it's this epic love affair, right? So why wouldn't Superman move heaven and earth to be with the woman he loves?

By having Clark walk away so easily (in a show where he's never done that towards Lana) they've made the whole thing just completely ridiculous and pointless.

Would it have been too much to ask for real closure? To have the two sit down and have an honest and open conversation like two adults?


I guess that if TPTB actually cared about the characters on this show, we would've seen real closure. At this point, I feel like TPTB are sitting in front of a computer screen controlling the characters and they are pushing buttons and making things happen, no matter how ridiculous or contrived it is.

[k852]

This episode would have been perfect if Lana died - never to return again. The ending allows a return. This leaves open a Clark - Lois relationship with Lana returning. The Lana relationship lasted way too long! Lana and Clark dated in high school then Clark moved on. But then again, Clark was flying in his mid 20's. Within 10 years Tom will have gray hair and he still can't fly. Hopefully season 9 will be the last season before arthritis sets in on the actors.

[Superman's_Wife]

I'd say sacrificing your love for innocent people is pretty heoric.

When a storyline is made of pure suck nothing is heroic about it. I don't care if Lana Lang would have saved an orphanage full of pretty blond haired, blue eyed angels! The way this story arc was molded made no sense and thus I cannot classify any actions as heroic.

[k852]

:lol:
The only decent resolution to Lana or Clana should have been Lana returning only for Clark to toss her to the cub for good. In fact, that should have happened long ago, preferably before we had to endure any nauseating Clana sex and last night horrible redux was even more sickening than the sex earthquake in Wrath, another awful ep. The hero should be making sure people like Lana are jailed for their crimes (kidnap, torture, framing people for murder, embezzelling, allowing people to die for lack of medical attention) and her eight years of manipulating and mistreating Clark and everyone else around her should also be addressed. Sudenly making her out to be a hero after all that was outrageous. The writers should be fired for that nonsense. Clark is now depicted as no kind of hero since he allowed Lana to get away with her misdeeds and worse, had disgusting sex with her, even after she screwed Biz, said Biz made her happier than Clark. There is something seriously wrong with this Clark that he chases girls who mistreat him as Lana has ever since the beginning of the series.

So no, this was the worst possible non-resolution that could be imagined.

I agree. Clark should have rejected Lana. He apparently was begining to have feelings for Lois. For him to return to Lana was disguesting. He and Lana should have parted as very dear friends. Lana should die from all the powers she has that a human body can not sustain.

[supes0]

Yup... it also raises the question as to why Clark won't be working towards curing her for the rest of the series. I mean, when she was in the Brianiac coma, everyone told him that there was no hope, but he was obsessed with it.

So, him moving on to Lois by season end just makes no sense on any level.

Exactly. I don't want him to move on to Lois. Because it destroys Clark Kent's integrity. He should be focused on curing Lana and growing as a hero. I don't see how Lois is sloppy seconds/second choice if Clark just forgets Lana, like he did with Alicia.

He wept like a baby over Alicia's body, he was about to kill Alicia's killer. Next episode, Alicia? Hmmm. Where have I heard that name before?

If the spoilers for Infamous (including what Durance said about their feelings), Hex and the emotions & lust are true than Clark looks like a fickle fool. then what we saw last night is rendered meaningless and Clark Kent looks bad.

[velocity]

When a storyline is made of pure suck nothing is heroic about it. I don't care if Lana Lang would have saved an orphanage full of pretty blond haired, blue eyed angels! The way this story arc was molded made no sense and thus I cannot classify any actions as heroic.
Even if one doesn't like the idea of Lana turning her life around, and becoming a better and stronger person..with a desire to help and save people - It was an heroic act, that is a fact and not an opinion.

[mr lane]

I'd say sacrificing your love for innocent people is pretty heoric.


If she wasn't so power hungry about having Lex's suit she wouldn't have been placed in that situation in the first place

and Lana didn't make the choice to sacrifice her and Clark's love it was Clark.

She asked him what to do and he told her to save the city.

She shouldnt have had to ask she should have just done it

but she knows clark sometimes has his moments where his decisions waver

so she was hoping he would tell her to just let the bomb go BOOM instead of saving the city

So theres nothing heroic in that.

[Kevin24]

Lana wasn't power hungry. She wanted the power to help the world instead of having a bad man like Lex going around killing people with it.

Just because Clark told her to do it doesn't mean she wasn't going to do it anyway. She was heroic and has become a better person. She will go on to help others around the world.

She was trying to improve herself but most people just see it as her being selfish and power hungry.

[sari_chem]

I think what Lana did was heroic (both Clark and Lana were heroic for what they sacrificed).

And had Lana not put on the Prometheus suit, yes, this wouldn't have happened to them, but Lex would have put on the suit. Then he is the one who would have absorbed kryptonite, and he would have been able to just beat Clark to death.

I liked the ending. To me, it was really sad. They were both devastated. Great acting by both KK and TW.

I cried!

[mr lane]

Lana wasn't power hungry. She wanted the power to help the world instead of having a bad man like Lex going around killing people with it.

Just because Clark told her to do it doesn't mean she wasn't going to do it anyway. She was heroic and has become a better person. She will go on to help others around the world.

She was trying to improve herself but most people just see it as her being selfish and power hungry.

Was she going to do it? It's been questioned I mean she has kidnapped people, faked her own death, stolen billions of dollars from her ex husband and murdered so letting a bomb go off wouldn't really make much damage to what she's done already

She should have had the suit destroyed instead of stealing it

she should have known that when dealing with Lex nothing good comes out of anything

again she should have thought things threw but instead she was too preoccupied with having powers like Clark.

[Ellsbury]

Lana being like a big piece of kryptonite illustrates perfectly the impact she's had on Clark for the last 8 years: she weakens him.

[velocity]

Oh boy. :rolleyes:


If she wasn't so power hungry about having Lex's suit she wouldn't have been placed in that situation in the first place
If she wouldn't have, Lex would have put it on.. and I think we all know what would have happened then.

Seems you didn't listen properly to the dialouge in Power.

She put on the suit becuse..

She wanted to do good in the world.
She wanted to prevent Lex from putting it on and cause all kinds of destruction.



and Lana didn't make the choice to sacrifice her and Clark's love it was Clark.

She asked him what to do and he told her to save the city.

She shouldnt have had to ask she should have just done it

so she was hoping he would tell her to just let the bomb go BOOM instead of saving the city

So theres nothing heroic in that.
Really? :lol:
Then why didn't she express regret about absorbing the kryptonite?
Why did she say, in the last scene of Requiem- "We made our choice up on that roof, and i know we would do it again"

Since she came back, she has been all about doing good, helping people etc. She risked her life for those powers to be able to do that.

[mr lane]

Oh boy. :rolleyes:


If she wouldn't have, Lex would have put it on.. and I think we all know what would have happened then.

Seems you didn't listen properly to the dialouge in Power.

She put on the suit becuse..

She wanted to do good in the world.
She wanted to prevent Lex from putting it on and cause all kinds of destruction.



Really? :lol:
Then why didn't she express regret about absorbing the kryptonite?
Why did she say, in the last scene of Requiem- "We made our choice up on that roof, and i know we would do it again"

Since she came back, she has been all about doing good, helping people etc. She risked her life for those powers to be able to do that.

You can read my next post where I stated she could have destroyed the suit instead of use it

but her decision to use the suit instead of destroy it shows what her intentions were.

someone who was married to Lex and claims to be his equal (oh wait she claimed to be clarks equal to, is she equal to evil or good?)

she should have known that the suit would have alterior motives (a weapon against clark)

[MetroGirl06]

No, I'm not happy how their story was resolved. It wasn't justice for either of their characters and no closure for their relationship at all. It was NOT handled right.

[mr lane]

Lana being like a big piece of kryptonite illustrates perfectly the impact she's had on Clark for the last 8 years: she weakens him.

agreed

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No, I'm not happy how their story was resolved. It wasn't justice for either of their characters and no closure for their relationship at all. It was NOT handled right.

agreed

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I think what Lana did was heroic (both Clark and Lana were heroic for what they sacrificed).

And had Lana not put on the Prometheus suit, yes, this wouldn't have happened to them, but Lex would have put on the suit. Then he is the one who would have absorbed kryptonite, and he would have been able to just beat Clark to death.

I liked the ending. To me, it was really sad. They were both devastated. Great acting by both KK and TW.

I cried!

I agree with you also on some things

yes if she wouldnt have put on the suit what happened probably wouldn't have

but i dont really think Lex would have gotten a hold of it either if they would have just destroyed it

I also agree that KK and TW had good acting and if i werent aware of the real superman mythology i probably would have seen the ending as tragic

[jlbtjb316]

I wish that more fans would try to put themselves in the shoes of the characters and try to give them the benefit of the doubt and look for the best in them. I would think that Clark fans would be happy that he does indeed bring out the best in people as Irma said in Legion. He helped Lana come back from a place of hurt and revenge to a place where she wants to put all that behind her and work by his side to help others. From the beginning of the show, we have seen that Lana has a desire to help others, and Clark helped her to refocus her life on that goal. Given that he couldn't save his friend Lex from going down a dark path, it is a good thing that he was able to help the one that he loves. I guess Lana just can't win. When her character took a darker turn, people complained, and now that she has turned her life around and decided to use the suit to help people (and keep it out of the hands of someone evil like Lex), a lot of people still are not happy.

It seems that when it comes to Lana and Lois, many fans (on both sides) want their character elevated at the expense of the other. From reading a lot of the posts about Requiem, it seems that in the minds of some fans that they want TPTB to diminish the love between Clark and Lana as just a crush or some type of infatuation, and they want Lana to be a dark, selfish character so that Lois will be clearly seen as the superior one who is Clark's true soulmate. In the same way, some Clana fans want Lois portrayed in a negative light so that Lana will shine and that Lois will be seen as sloppy seconds. Both play an important part in Clark's life, and it seems like the fans would want both Lana and Lois to be portrayed in a favorable light. Just because Clark loves Lana now does mean that he cannot love Lois in the future, and just because he loves Lois in the future does not mean that he does not truly love Lana now.

[koryaunka]

i thought it was great, i'm clana 4eva, so i cried for the whole night and all day 2day

[velocity]

You can read my next post where I stated she could have destroyed the suit instead of use it

but her decision to use the suit instead of destroy it shows what her intentions were.

someone who was married to Lex and claims to be his equal (oh wait she claimed to be clarks equal to, is she equal to evil or good?)

she should have known that the suit would have alterior motives (a weapon against clark)
She destroyed it too.
Yes, that's correct and her intentions were to use the suit to help people.

What do you mean she should have known the suit had alterior motives? What does that have to do with her being heroic for abosorbing the kryptontie (which seperates her form Clark forever) to save the people of metropolis?

I can't reason with you because you can't be objective about this, since you obvisouly loathe Lana whatever she does.

[Clana4Life]

Oh boy. :rolleyes:


If she wouldn't have, Lex would have put it on.. and I think we all know what would have happened then.

Seems you didn't listen properly to the dialouge in Power.

She put on the suit becuse..

She wanted to do good in the world.
She wanted to prevent Lex from putting it on and cause all kinds of destruction.



Really? :lol:
Then why didn't she express regret about absorbing the kryptonite?
Why did she say, in the last scene of Requiem- "We made our choice up on that roof, and i know we would do it again"

Since she came back, she has been all about doing good, helping people etc. She risked her life for those powers to be able to do that.

Ahh, Amanda, we should run over to SWEET. :) Everyone is happy and sad. Happy about the Clana love, sad that Lana had to go.
In any event, I thought it was bittersweet. Who says you can't love your high school sweetheart for the rest of your life? Loving someone you loved in high school doesn't mean you are regressing. There are many people who marry their high school sweethearts, so I find his argument rather illogical. I also don't argue with characters. If Clark has told us once, he's told us a million times that he loves her, that he's always loved her, that he always will love her. Why do we argue with the writers and really Clark, when it comes to this by saying he is in love with the idea of her? Clark has seen all of the bad and ugly, and yet he still loves her. Why are we still living in the past, when Clark and Lana could care less about that? They don't care about the past. They want to be together. They've both grown and changed. And again, they want to be together. Let's look at the intent of the writers. Let's look at the intent of the writers per what the actors have said. What they say goes. I know there's nothing we can do about perception, but there's something to be said for intention.
I'm glad that their are comic aficionados, but - and I mean this with all respect, what is that to us? Why is that relevant to SV, when they have changed the story so much? They are obviously not using comics as source material, so why do we keep saying this is what happened in the comics? It is not Comic Smallville. It's a reinterpretation, a story with loose ties to another text.

[velocity]

She destroyed it too.
Yes, that's correct and her intentions were to use the suit to help people.

What do you mean she should have known the suit had alterior motives? What does that have to do with her being heroic for abosorbing the kryptontie (which seperates her form Clark forever) to save the people of metropolis?

I can't reason with you because you can't be objective about this, since you obvisouly loathe Lana whatever she does.


I wish that more fans would try to put themselves in the shoes of the characters and try to give them the benefit of the doubt and look for the best in them. I would think that Clark fans would be happy that he does indeed bring out the best in people as Irma said in Legion. He helped Lana come back from a place of hurt and revenge to a place where she wants to put all that behind her and work by his side to help others. From the beginning of the show, we have seen that Lana has a desire to help others, and Clark helped her to refocus her life on that goal. Given that he couldn't save his friend Lex from going down a dark path, it is a good thing that he was able to help the one that he loves. I guess Lana just can't win. When her character took a darker turn, people complained, and now that she has turned her life around and decided to use the suit to help people (and keep it out of the hands of someone evil like Lex), a lot of people still are not happy.

It seems that when it comes to Lana and Lois, many fans (on both sides) want their character elevated at the expense of the other. From reading a lot of the posts about Requiem, it seems that in the minds of some fans that they want TPTB to diminish the love between Clark and Lana as just a crush or some type of infatuation, and they want Lana to be a dark, selfish character so that Lois will be clearly seen as the superior one who is Clark's true soulmate. In the same way, some Clana fans want Lois portrayed in a negative light so that Lana will shine and that Lois will be seen as sloppy seconds. Both play an important part in Clark's life, and it seems like the fans would want both Lana and Lois to be portrayed in a favorable light. Just because Clark loves Lana now does mean that he cannot love Lois in the future, and just because he loves Lois in the future does not mean that he does not truly love Lana now.
I like you.

You don't know how unique it is to be neutral and objecitve regarding ships, Lana / Lois in here. :)

[sari_chem]

I wish that more fans would try to put themselves in the shoes of the characters and try to give them the benefit of the doubt and look for the best in them. I would think that Clark fans would be happy that he does indeed bring out the best in people as Irma said in Legion. He helped Lana come back from a place of hurt and revenge to a place where she wants to put all that behind her and work by his side to help others. From the beginning of the show, we have seen that Lana has a desire to help others, and Clark helped her to refocus her life on that goal. Given that he couldn't save his friend Lex from going down a dark path, it is a good thing that he was able to help the one that he loves. I guess Lana just can't win. When her character took a darker turn, people complained, and now that she has turned her life around and decided to use the suit to help people (and keep it out of the hands of someone evil like Lex), a lot of people still are not happy.

It seems that when it comes to Lana and Lois, many fans (on both sides) want their character elevated at the expense of the other. From reading a lot of the posts about Requiem, it seems that in the minds of some fans that they want TPTB to diminish the love between Clark and Lana as just a crush or some type of infatuation, and they want Lana to be a dark, selfish character so that Lois will be clearly seen as the superior one who is Clark's true soulmate. In the same way, some Clana fans want Lois portrayed in a negative light so that Lana will shine and that Lois will be seen as sloppy seconds. Both play an important part in Clark's life, and it seems like the fans would want both Lana and Lois to be portrayed in a favorable light. Just because Clark loves Lana now does mean that he cannot love Lois in the future, and just because he loves Lois in the future does not mean that he does not truly love Lana now.

well said :)

[marcella]

I didn't like it

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

I really did not like it, but, honesty, I'm just Glad she's gone and we can move on with smallville and not Clana.