Clana/Lana Resolution - All Discussion

[Mickey_Bickey]

he didnt get with chloe cuz he wanted to be with lana.the only reason he got with kyla or alicia was becuz lana had a boyfriend at both times.and in hydro he only kisses lois because hes protecting oliver's secret of being green arrow.sorry but there has never really been any time when he hasnt wanted to be with lana.kyla lasted an episode.alicia lasted 3 but he had already forgotten about both the following episodes

He was bowled over by that kiss with Lois, and TW didn't stick that "afterlook" in by accident! LOL! He was so flattered by what Lois said in the end too about how "that GA could teach Ollie a thing or two" [about kissing]!

You stated that there hasn't been 1 episode where Clark hasn't wanted to be with Lana, and I'm just showing you that that statement is wrong. There have been many epsiodes without Clark pining for Lana.

The whole beginning of this season he wasn't pining for Lana. She was mentioned, and that's normal, but there was no mope.

I suspect the no mope side of Clark will surface again in Infamous! It will be such a joy to see Clark Kent becoming Superman again and continue developing the main relationship in his life, the one with Lois Lane of course!:)

[Drasix]

Michele. The thing is, I’m a Superman/Lois Lane fan, too. And I can’t believe Clois can happen neither in a believable way. Not within the time we’re given (even if there’s S9) anyway. But this isn’t the part which saddened me.

I’m sad because I had to see Clark begging on his knees for a woman he was barely happy with. PS3 tells us our hero could never move on from this woman by his own free will after everything she’s done. They made HER a hero at the end which is fine because I don’t give a damn about her, but at the high expense of Clark Kent.
I felt so insulted as a Superman fan.

I thought I’ve been watching his *journey* as in transition, progress, glowing up.
What PS3 showed me is that he can never glow up emotionally as long as his first love is around and probably never will if she ever comes back. Because after all, she is his weakness, right? The message was loud and clear.

What I saw was not a resolution. It was an ‘open end’.
You can’t build a solid future relationship on this foundation. YMMV
he wasnt barely happy..its what he always wanted

[disciples of zod]

i honestly didn't like how lana's story ended. sure, the ending of Requiem was very sad and heartbreaking, but i wanted to see something more out of Lana. i mean, she just....left. no goodbye to anyone, she just left. that was it. the end. no more lana.

~K

[tbird4u]

Clark will close that end by the end of infamous^ ;)

[Drasix]

He was bowled over by that kiss with Lois, and TW didn't stick that "afterlook" in by accident! LOL! He was so flattered by what Lois said in the end too about how "that GA could teach Ollie a thing or two" [about kissing]!

You stated that there hasn't been 1 episode where Clark hasn't wanted to be with Lana, and I'm just showing you that that statement is wrong. There have been many epsiodes without Clark pining for Lana.

The whole beginning of this season he wasn't pining for Lana. She was mentioned, and that's normal, but there was no mope.

I suspect the no mope side of Clark will surface again in Infamous! It will be such a joy to see Clark Kent becoming Superman again and continue developing the main relationship in his life, the one with Lois Lane of course!:)if he isnt moping in infamous then its epic fail.no way he wouldnt be.Clois will never match Clana on Smallville.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Michele. The thing is, I’m a Superman/Lois Lane fan, too. And I can’t believe Clois can happen neither in a believable way. Not within the time we’re given (even if there’s S9) anyway. But this isn’t the part which saddened me.

I’m sad because I had to see Clark begging on his knees for a woman he was barely happy with. PS3 tells us our hero could never move on from this woman by his own free will after everything she’s done. They made HER a hero at the end which is fine because I don’t give a damn about her, but at the high expense of Clark Kent.
I felt so insulted as a Superman fan.

I thought I’ve been watching his *journey* as in transition, progress, glowing up.
What PS3 showed me is that he can never glow up emotionally as long as his first love is around and probably never will if she ever comes back. Because after all, she is his weakness, right? The message was loud and clear.

What I saw was not a resolution. It was an ‘open end’.
You can’t build a solid future relationship on this foundation. YMMV

I understand what you're saying if you put too much merit in this arc. I have deleted these ridiculous episodes off my DVR as if they never happened.

None of these episodes tied into anything we've seen so far this season, and by the spoilers they're not going to be tied into future episodes. I think if you look at it that way, then not only will Clois be believable on this show, but it will also tie in with the earlier episodes where we did see Clark well on his way to becoming Superman.

I'm sweeping the last 4 episodes under the carpet never to be thought about again!:lol:

[Drasix]

Exactly. Nicely put. This is what I said earlier. Clana was shown to be a relationship that couldn't last, I don't even remember how many times they've broken up.

Had they actually shown Clana as something that could last, then I'd fear that Clois couldn't happen. But, thankfully, this isn't the case, and Clois will be everything I expect it to be.

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Oh now you're just grasping at straws :rolleyes:
not really, its the truth and if they didnt break up all the time the show would get kinda boring bcuz everyone is always wanting to see them get back together.its called drama

[tbird4u]

Clois isnt going to have the amount of time clana has... so you are right in a sense BUT by the end of the series we are going to be pretty clear on how clark feels about lois and pretty clear that he has moved on from lana.. I dont know why everyone seems to think there is no redeeming the clois relationship... Its quite simple actually. Everyone believed the clois relationship at the begining of this season when there was never any closure for clana.. she left him a video and still it was believable this season. Now because they are forced apart suddenly the clois relationship isnt believable?? WRONG it is going to be believable just wait and see how the rest of the season plays out ;)

[Mickey_Bickey]

if he isnt moping in infamous then its epic fail.no way he wouldnt be.Clois will never match Clana on Smallville.

You're right. Clois will never match Clana on SV, because Clois is exciting, fiesty, fun to watch, humorous, entertaining and never has a dull moment! ITA!

[Drasix]

there wasnt anything keeping them from being something that could last until the whole kryptonite thing happened

[supes0]

if he isnt moping in infamous then its epic fail.no way he wouldnt be.

Exactly. If he isn't devoting all his spare time searching for a cure and a way for he& Lana to be together, it makes no sense. Not after that final scene. There was no Clana closure.

[tbird4u]

Sure there was... as far as clark could tell.. Lana left him and he didnt believe she was ever coming back... Same thing!!

[myankskent]

You're right. Clois will never match Clana on SV, because Clois is exciting, fiesty, fun to watch, humorous, entertaining and never has a dull moment! ITA!

As long as episodes and storylines that don't make it look good are swept under the rug, right?:rolleyes:

[Drasix]

Clois isnt going to have the amount of time clana has... so you are right in a sense BUT by the end of the series we are going to be pretty clear on how clark feels about lois and pretty clear that he has moved on from lana.. I dont know why everyone seems to think there is no redeeming the clois relationship... Its quite simple actually. Everyone believed the clois relationship at the begining of this season when there was never any closure for clana.. she left him a video and still it was believable this season. Now because they are forced apart suddenly the clois relationship isnt believable?? WRONG it is going to be believable just wait and see how the rest of the season plays out ;)
no it just shows that lois is sloppy seconds

[Marc_MLarCk]

There are only CLOIS fans here, no CLANA ???

[Mickey_Bickey]

As long as episodes and storylines that don't make it look good are swept under the rug, right?:rolleyes:

Sorry, can you rephrase that for me? I don't understand what you're trying to say.:confused:

[Drasix]

Exactly. If he isn't devoting all his spare time searching for a cure and a way for he& Lana to be together, it makes no sense. Not after that final scene. There was no Clana closure.
exactly you cant tell me that clark is gonna forget about lana and run to lois.its not believable and it makes no sense.

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There are only CLOIS fans here, no CLANA ???clana here dude

[myankskent]

Sorry, can you rephrase that for me? I don't understand what you're trying to say.:confused:

You said that you loved Clois and that it's the best, but that you are going to pretend that other episodes never happened. So I take that to mean that the only reason why those episodes never happened is because it doesn't put Clois in a positive light and if these episodes were taken into account, it wouldn't put Clois in a positive light when Lois returns in Infamous either. That's something that I just cannot do and I guess that's why I am not a shipper.

[supes0]

Sure there was... as far as clark could tell.. Lana left him and he didnt believe she was ever coming back... Same thing!!

She left because of the Kryptonite posioning not because she didn't love him. The only reason they are not together is because Clark can not touch her without certainty of death.

So what is the solution? On to the next woman? In my opinion, this cheapens both Clana and Clois, and makes Clark look terrible.

It makes sense for Clark to search for a cure so he can be with Lana, otherwise he's giving up and that isn't what Superman is supposed to be about.

[tbird4u]

no it just shows that lois is sloppy seconds

Lois will never be sloppy seconds..NEVER.. You guys are judging something that hasnt even finished playing out yet...Clark WILL realize that lois is his soul mate... A soul mate is NOT a sloppy second. This whole season has been about clark finding the one..and he will by seasons end. Do I think they will be together? Maybe not... but they are going to line this up with mythos by series finale and lois is part of that weather people like it or not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have mine.. You have yours ;)

[Marc_MLarCk]

Seems your are alone...

[Drasix]

I never heard Clark said I love you alicia or chloe or Lois thats a point
clark said I love you Lana I cant even counted
i think he told alicia that he loved her when he was on red k

[tbird4u]

She left because of the Kryptonite posioning not because she didn't love him. The only reason they are not together is because Clark can not touch her without certainty of death.

So what is the solution? On to the next woman? In my opinion, this cheapens both Clana and Clois, and makes Clark look terrible.

It makes sense for Clark to search for a cure so he can be with Lana, otherwise he's giving up and that isn't what Superman is supposed to be about.

Uh if you read my original quote I was talking about artic not her departing in requiem.. I never said that lana and clark didnt love one another... that would be a lie!

[myankskent]

So what is the solution? On to the next woman? In my opinion, this cheapens both Clana and Clois, and makes Clark look terrible.


Exactly. On to the woman that you didn't seem to care about for four straight episodes. That's good storytelling?

[supes0]

Uh if you read my original quote I was talking about artic not her departing in requiem.. I never said that lana and clark didnt love one another... that would be a lie!

Sorry.

[Drasix]

Lois will never be sloppy seconds..NEVER.. You guys are judging something that hasnt even finished playing out yet...Clark WILL realize that lois is his soul mate... A soul mate is NOT a sloppy second. This whole season has been about clark finding the one..and he will by seasons end. Do I think they will be together? Maybe not... but they are going to line this up with mythos by series finale and lois is part of that weather people like it or not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have mine.. You have yours ;)
well at this point smallville is telling everyone that clark cant be with lana so hes gonna take what he can get in lois

[tbird4u]

Sorry.

Its ok .. I think clark will always love lana but he IS allowed to move on...:D We are all fighting for what we believe in :lol:

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well at this point smallville is telling everyone that clark cant be with lana so hes gonna take what he can get in lois

Your right at this point they are but I just happen to think they left requiem on a cliffhanger and this story is not over :p

[unfocused]

there wasnt anything keeping them from being something that could last until the whole kryptonite thing happened

7.5 years of a bad relationship ;)

[Drasix]

Its ok .. I think clark will always love lana but he IS allowed to move on...:D We are all fighting for what we believe in :lol:
yes hes allowed to move on but the fact is HE WANTS TO BE WITH LANA but he cant bcuz of circumstances beyond his control and for him to move on so soon would be a complete disgrace.

[supes0]

well at this point smallville is telling everyone that clark cant be with lana so hes gonna take what he can get in lois

This reflects badly on Clark and nobody else. He would be the one throwing his hands up and moving on.

[Drasix]

7.5 years of a bad relationship ;)not really

[Mickey_Bickey]

You said that you loved Clois and that it's the best, but that you are going to pretend that other episodes never happened. So I take that to mean that the only reason why those episodes never happened is because it doesn't put Clois in a positive light and if these episodes were taken into account, it wouldn't put Clois in a positive light when Lois returns in Infamous either. That's something that I just cannot do and I guess that's why I am not a shipper.

No, that's not what I said at all. I have never used the term "I love Clois", and I never said "it was the best".

What I said that these episodes made no sense at all. They only served to bring down the main character and the heroine of our story, and that's Clark Kent/Superman. These episodes don't shed Clois in a negative light for me, because I'm not taking them seriously. The storyline itself was like an island out in the ocean not connected to the main land so to speak.

The first half of this season was written vastly different than these episodes where KK and PS3 collaborated on. I suspect the upcoming episodes will not tie into this arc. I don't want to see a mopey Clark Kent. I want Clark to be the "end all be all" of this show and no one else.

I guess I favor the relationship between Clark and Lois for reasons I've stated before, but make no mistake my main reason for tuning into this show is because I am a Superman/Clark Kent fan, and when his character is butchered the way it was in these past episodes then I take issue with that.

[Drasix]

Its ok .. I think clark will always love lana but he IS allowed to move on...:D We are all fighting for what we believe in :lol:

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Your right at this point they are but I just happen to think they left requiem on a cliffhanger and this story is not over :p
i think so as well

[unfocused]

It's sad that I was in that small group of people defending Clana fans during this arc, and now that Lana is gone, the Clana fans are degrading the relationship I love, Clois :(

[Drasix]

No, that's not what I said at all. I have never used the term "I love Clois", and I never said "it was the best".

What I said that these episodes made no sense at all. They only served to bring down the main character and the heroine of our story, and that's Clark Kent/Superman. These episodes don't shed Clois in a negative light for me, because I'm not taking them seriously. The storyline itself was like an island out in the ocean not connected to the main land so to speak.

The first half of this season was written vastly different than these episodes where KK and PS3 collaborated on. I suspect the upcoming episodes will not tie into this arc. I don't want to see a mopey Clark Kent. I want Clark to be the "end all be all" of this show and no one else.

I guess I favor the relationship between Clark and Lois for reasons I've stated before, but make no mistake my main reason for tuning into this show is because I am a Superman/Clark Kent fan, and when his character is butchered the way it was in these past episodes then I take issue with that.how was he butchered?the girl hes loved all his life comes back into his life and he wants to be with her.Whats wrong with that?

[unfocused]

not really

Yes really. Clark and Lana's relationship has always been terrible. So much pain and lies and secrets. They weren't going to be together for long, that much is obvious.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Lois will never be sloppy seconds..NEVER.. You guys are judging something that hasnt even finished playing out yet...Clark WILL realize that lois is his soul mate... A soul mate is NOT a sloppy second. This whole season has been about clark finding the one..and he will by seasons end. Do I think they will be together? Maybe not... but they are going to line this up with mythos by series finale and lois is part of that weather people like it or not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have mine.. You have yours ;)

I agree.

The argument could also be made that Clark's character was sloppy seconds after Lana slept with Lex and Bizarro not to mention Jason.

I mean really, it doesn't matter in the end. The person you end up with most of the time is usually the one you marry. I don't consider myself "sloppy seconds" just because my husband dated other women before me!

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how was he butchered?the girl hes loved all his life comes back into his life and he wants to be with her.Whats wrong with that?

How was Clark's character butchered?? Just go watch the first 10 episodes of the season then watch episodes 11 - 14. Your answer lies there.

[supes0]

Your right at this point they are but I just happen to think they left requiem on a cliffhanger and this story is not over :p

I agree with you. Some how or the other this will be addressed. But I think it's going to be done with a lot of hand waving.

If the writers need Lana cured at the end to show Clark adores Lois, they will. But will we believe it? I'm afraid these folks aren't good enough storytellers. I'm not arguing Clark is going to move on. I think he will and I think he will say to somebody (Chloe,Oliver,Jimmy, whoever) Lois is "the one" or his soulmate. It's just after what just happened, it'll be hard for me to believe.

[Mickey_Bickey]

It's sad that I was in that small group of people defending Clana fans during this arc, and now that Lana is gone, the Clana fans are degrading the relationship I love, Clois :(


It's okay! There's nothing degrading about Clark and Lois!:)

[tbird4u]

Yes really. Clark and Lana's relationship has always been terrible. So much pain and lies and secrets. They weren't going to be together for long, that much is obvious.

Exactly.. I think they showed it that way for a reason.. clark and lana are NOT meant to be together.. They showed that from the begining not just in requiem. Its was a horrible relationship neither was ever really happy exept for one episode here and there!!

[Drasix]

It's sad that I was in that small group of people defending Clana fans during this arc, and now that Lana is gone, the Clana fans are degrading the relationship I love, Clois :(
clois isnt being degraded..its just the simple fact that the relationship wont make any sense after everything thats happened

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I agree.

The argument could also be made that Clark's character was sloppy seconds after Lana slept with Lex and Bizarro not to mention Jason.

I mean really, it doesn't matter in the end. The person you end up with most of the time is usually the one you marry. I don't consider myself "sloppy seconds" just because my husband dated other women before me!

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How was Clark's character butchered?? Just go watch the first 10 episodes of the season then watch episodes 11 - 14. Your answer lies there.she slept with clark before lex or bizzaro and only slept with bizzaro becuz she thought it was clark...she never slept with jason.Clark was before all of those

[tbird4u]

I agree with you. Some how or the other this will be addressed. But I think it's going to be done with a lot of hand waving.

If the writers need Lana cured at the end to show Clark adores Lois, they will. But will we believe it? I'm afraid these folks aren't good enough storytellers. I'm not arguing Clark is going to move on. I think he will and I think he will say to somebody (Chloe,Oliver,Jimmy, whoever) Lois is "the one" or his soulmate. It's just after what just happened, it'll be hard for me to believe.

Well see thats how we are different I would believe it cause clark said it. All Ive wanted is clark to admit it.I just hope the writers can do it in a way to help people like you who dont think they can believe it to actually believe it:)

[unfocused]

Exactly.. I think they showed it that way for a reason.. clark and lana are NOT meant to be together.. They showed that from the begining not just in requiem. Its was a horrible relationship neither was ever really happy exept for one episode here and there!!

You know, someone mentioned something that really touched me. They said that final scene in Requiem was somewhat of a continuity from the first scenes of Clark and Lana, in that Clark couldn't get near her because of her Kryptonite necklace.

I want to take that a step further and say that from those first scenes of Clark and Lana, we are taught that they aren't meant to be together. In the first scene together, and in their final scene together, Clark couldn't get near Lana without being hurt. She used to wear his greatest weakness around her neck, and now she has become his greatest weakness.

*tear*

[supes0]

Well see thats how we are different I would believe it cause clark said it. All Ive wanted is clark to admit it.I just hope the writers can do it in a way to help people like you who dont think they can believe it to actually believe it:)

I just don't have faith the writers can do it. Not after what just happened. But if they do, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong.

[myankskent]

What I said that these episodes made no sense at all.


It doesn't make sense for Clark to be in love with Lana?



These episodes don't shed Clois in a negative light for me, because I'm not taking them seriously.


Exactly. They are being ignored because if they were taken seriously, Clana would look like the main relationship and Clois would be totally forgotten. IMO, there's no point in ignoring episodes if what was in them made everything look good.



The storyline itself was like an island out in the ocean not connected to the main land so to speak.


Now hold on a second. I'm with you that the first half of the season focused on some Clois, but how do 9 episodes not become the island when 150 episodes prior were more about Clana than anything else? Every season is connected. What we saw from Clana in episodes 10-14 was related to what happened in "Arctic". It just wasn't related to the first 9 episodes of the season, which IMO, is the island at this point.

[Drasix]

Exactly.. I think they showed it that way for a reason.. clark and lana are NOT meant to be together.. They showed that from the begining not just in requiem. Its was a horrible relationship neither was ever really happy exept for one episode here and there!!
lol the relationship in any show as to go up and down.they alway have to disagree and break up.its all part of the drama so everyone can be happy when they get back together again

[Marc_MLarCk]

I'm only reading this forum but I find Clois fans more aggressive and partial than Clana's

[unfocused]

clois isnt being degraded..its just the simple fact that the relationship wont make any sense after everything thats happened

That's as degrading as degrading can get...

[Mickey_Bickey]

clois isnt being degraded..its just the simple fact that the relationship wont make any sense after everything thats happened

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she slept with clark before lex or bizzaro and only slept with bizzaro becuz she thought it was clark...she never slept with jason.Clark was before all of those

Then she slept with Clark again in Requiem.

The simple fact is that the only relationship that will finally make sense is the one with Lois Lane. This entire arc was laughable and beyond believable not to mention embarrassing. I cringed for poor Tom Welling in Power and Requiem, just cringed.

[tbird4u]

You know, someone mentioned something that really touched me. They said that final scene in Requiem was somewhat of a continuity from the first scenes of Clark and Lana, in that Clark couldn't get near her because of her Kryptonite necklace.

I want to take that a step further and say that from those first scenes of Clark and Lana, we are taught that they aren't meant to be together. In the first scene together, and in their final scene together, Clark couldn't get near Lana without being hurt. She used to wear his greatest weakness around her neck, and now she has become his greatest weakness.

*tear*

:rotfl: In all seriousness though... I agree with it, and it makes sense she left the way she came!! And their relationship ended they way it began... destined to fail

[Drasix]

It doesn't make sense for Clark to be in love with Lana?



Exactly. They are being ignored because if they were taken seriously, Clana would look like the main relationship and Clois would be totally forgotten. IMO, there's no point in ignoring episodes if what was in them made everything look good.



Now hold on a second. I'm with you that the first half of the season focused on some Clois, but how do 9 episodes not become the island when 150 episodes prior were more about Clana than anything else? Every season is connected. What we saw from Clana in episodes 10-14 was related to what happened in "Arctic". It just wasn't related to the first 9 episodes of the season, which IMO, is the island at this point.
and the only reason the first 9 were base on lois was bcuz lana wasnt there.sorry but smallville has always been the clana show

[tbird4u]

lol the relationship in any show as to go up and down.they alway have to disagree and break up.its all part of the drama so everyone can be happy when they get back together again

But their plan backfired cause they did it so much that people starting HATING seeing lana and clark even in a scene together

[Drasix]

Then she slept with Clark again in Requiem.

The simple fact is that the only relationship that will finally make sense is the one with Lois Lane. This entire arc was laughable and beyond believable not to mention embarrassing. I cringed for poor Tom Welling in Power and Requiem, just cringed.
yeah im sure tom welling was mortified to be in the bed nude with kristin kreuk lol

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But their plan backfired cause they did it so much that people starting HATING seeing lana and clark even in a scene togetherwhen you say people you really mean yourself bcuz you like clois.lol theres no way we are going to agree lets just face it.But clois is ruined in people's eyes as well

[unfocused]

Then she slept with Clark again in Requiem.

The simple fact is that the only relationship that will finally make sense is the one with Lois Lane. This entire arc was laughable and beyond believable not to mention embarrassing. I cringed for poor Tom Welling in Power and Requiem, just cringed.

Wow, I really have to agree with you on some points here. Clana never really made sense to me and recently it hasn't been believable or convincing.

I have to say, Clois is the most convincing relationship on this show. Even more convincing than Clark and Chloe's friendship. And that says volumes about Clois.

[Mickey_Bickey]

It doesn't make sense for Clark to be in love with Lana?

Not at this point in his life, no. Lana Lang is only supposed to be his high school girlfriend, Pete's wife and Lois Lane's bridesmaid.




Exactly. They are being ignored because if they were taken seriously, Clana would look like the main relationship and Clois would be totally forgotten. IMO, there's no point in ignoring episodes if what was in them made everything look good.

Not at all. They were poorly written and executed. The storyline wasn't believable in any way, shape or form. Bottom line.




Now hold on a second. I'm with you that the first half of the season focused on some Clois, but how do 9 episodes not become the island when 150 episodes prior were more about Clana than anything else? Every season is connected. What we saw from Clana in episodes 10-14 was related to what happened in "Arctic". It just wasn't related to the first 9 episodes of the season, which IMO, is the island at this point.


As far as previous seasons, if it were totally Clana centered I would have stopped watching long ago.

These 4 episodes are on their own. They don't tie into any of the main storylines this season, and every character and storyline took a back seat to Lana Lang's arc. Sorry, but it just wasn't good writing. It didn't compare to the quality that we were given in the beginning of the season, and I'm hoping that moving forward they just continue where they left off in Bride.

[Drasix]

Wow, I really have to agree with you on some points here. Clana never really made sense to me and recently it hasn't been believable or convincing.

I have to say, Clois is the most convincing relationship on this show. Even more convincing than Clark and Chloe's friendship. And that says volumes about Clois.lol if you say so

[Mickey_Bickey]

Wow, I really have to agree with you on some points here. Clana never really made sense to me and recently it hasn't been believable or convincing.

I have to say, Clois is the most convincing relationship on this show. Even more convincing than Clark and Chloe's friendship. And that says volumes about Clois.

I have to totally agree with you. I love Clark and Chloe's friendship, but I don't see anything romantic about them. Clark and Lois are very good friends and know each other very well. They may not have had a lot of romantic type moments like the one in Bride, but they're always interesting to watch. There's a wonderful chemistry between the two of them.

[Drasix]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447237]Not at this point in his life, no. Lana Lang is only supposed to be his high school girlfriend, Pete's wife and Lois Lane's bridesmaid.

well you must not have noticed that they havent actually followed the comic book road in terms of lana and clark.sorry but theyve developed the relationship so much and more than any other on sv for me to believe that clark should be with lois

[unfocused]

lol if you say so

Thanks, I do say so.

[tbird4u]

when you say people you really mean yourself bcuz you like clois.lol theres no way we are going to agree lets just face it.But clois is ruined in people's eyes as well

Actually there are alot of chloe fans out there that hate clana too. Trust me when I say I am not in the minority!!

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Thanks, I do say so.

:rotfl:

[Drasix]

Thanks, I do say so.
lol i dont

[Mickey_Bickey]

yeah im sure tom welling was mortified to be in the bed nude with kristin kreuk lol

I'm sure Tom Welling is happy with his "real life" wife! I was talking about the regression of his character to the point where his scenes could have been copied and pasted from S6. That last scene in Requiem where he was stumbling over to her? I'm cringing just thinking about it. Then his face going all "Mummy" and falling to his knees. It was bad. Really bad.

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when you say people you really mean yourself bcuz you like clois.lol theres no way we are going to agree lets just face it.But clois is ruined in people's eyes as well


Basing the overwhelming negative opinions on this site, I would say you could say that she's speaking for more than just herself.

[unfocused]

Actually there are alot of chloe fans out there that hate clana too. Trust me when I say I am not in the minority!!

Oh, Chloe fans hate Lana the most, particularly Chlarkers :p

[Mickey_Bickey]

and the only reason the first 9 were base on lois was bcuz lana wasnt there.sorry but smallville has always been the clana show

Thank goodness she left so we can finally see Superman on this show!:lol:

[Drasix]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447256]I'm sure Tom Welling is happy with his "real life" wife! I was talking about the regression of his character to the point where his scenes could have been copied and pasted from S6. That last scene in Requiem where he was stumbling over to her? I'm cringing just thinking about it. Then his face going all "Mummy" and falling to his knees. It was bad. Really bad.
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[myankskent]

Not at this point in his life, no. Lana Lang is only supposed to be his high school girlfriend, Pete's wife and Lois Lane's bridesmaid.


What Lana is supposed to be really doesn't matter. She is who she is on Smallville.




Not at all. They were poorly written and executed. The storyline wasn't believable in any way, shape or form. Bottom line.


I agree that the storyline wasn't written well, but for me to say that it wasn't believable for Clark to be in love with Lana again is pretty ridiculous, IMO, since past history says that he is.





As far as previous seasons, if it were totally Clana centered I would have stopped watching long ago.


Even when Clana weren't together in past seasons, the show was still about them. Should I go back and post how many episodes contained Clana loft scenes in past seasons?



These 4 episodes are on their own. They don't tie into any of the main storylines this season


"Legion" doesn't tie into what was going on with Chloe and Doomsday during the first half of the season? "Requiem" doesn't continue the storyline of what happened when Chloe killed that guy in "Identity" or Oliver's quest for revenge against Lex Luthor? I think that these episodes tie into what has been going on, they just don't contain Clois. So going by this logic, "Prey" and "Abyss" are not to be taken seriously either because Lois wasn't in those episodes.

[tbird4u]

Basing the overwhelming negative opinions on this site, I would say you could say that she's speaking for more than just herself.

Thank you:D

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447256]I'm sure Tom Welling is happy with his "real life" wife! I was talking about the regression of his character to the point where his scenes could have been copied and pasted from S6. That last scene in Requiem where he was stumbling over to her? I'm cringing just thinking about it. Then his face going all "Mummy" and falling to his knees. It was bad. Really bad.
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No, I expected the writers to be responsible while handling his character, you know the one the show's supposed to be about!

[Drasix]

What Lana is supposed to be really doesn't matter. She is who she is on Smallville.




I agree that the storyline wasn't written well, but for me to say that it wasn't believable for Clark to be in love with Lana again is pretty ridiculous, IMO, since past history says that he is.





Even when Clana weren't together in past seasons, the show was still about them. Should I go back and post how many episodes contained Clana loft scenes in past seasons?



"Legion" doesn't tie into what was going on with Chloe and Doomsday during the first half of the season? "Requiem" doesn't continue the storyline of what happened when Chloe killed that guy in "Identity" or Oliver's quest for revenge against Lex Luthor? I think that these episodes tie into what has been going on, they just don't contain Clois. So going by this logic, "Prey" and "Abyss" are not to be taken seriously either because Lois wasn't in those episodes.ITA

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[quote=Drasix;4447267]

No, I expected the writers to be responsible while handling his character, you know the one the show's supposed to be about!
lol the show is about clark and always has been

[unfocused]

I agree that the storyline wasn't written well, but for me to say that it wasn't believable for Clark to be in love with Lana again is pretty ridiculous, IMO, since past history says that he is.

Clark's feelings for Lana aren't believable at all anymore. Lois isn't even around at the moment and his feelings for her, whatever they may be, are far more convincing than what he supposedly felt for Lana during this arc.

[Drasix]

Clark's feelings for Lana aren't believable at all anymore. Lois isn't even around at the moment and his feelings for her, whatever they may be, are far more convincing than what he supposedly felt for Lana during this arc.
now your grasping at straws:rotfl:

[Mickey_Bickey]

What Lana is supposed to be really doesn't matter. She is who she is on Smallville.

It matters when her character brings down Clark Kent's character. It matters a lot.


I agree that the storyline wasn't written well, but for me to say that it wasn't believable for Clark to be in love with Lana again is pretty ridiculous, IMO, since past history says that he is.

I can see some unresolved feelings being present, but for the writers to have him having full blown feelings for her at this point in his life was not believable to me, especially after he started developing feelings for Lois this season. PS3 and KK were irresponsible in the way they handled her return. They could have had them mutually agree to be friends and always be there for each other while not making either character look bad.


Even when Clana weren't together in past seasons, the show was still about them. Should I go back and post how many episodes contained Clana loft scenes in past seasons?

The show has never been about Clana to me. This is an ensemble cast, and there have always been more than one focus, and Clark himself has had other love interests including Lois this season. You could also post numerous Clois loft scenes, Martha and Johnathan loft scenes, and even Lex loft scenes. The show is about Clark Kent and his relationships, all his relationships.


"Legion" doesn't tie into what was going on with Chloe and Doomsday during the first half of the season? "Requiem" doesn't continue the storyline of what happened when Chloe killed that guy in "Identity" or Oliver's quest for revenge against Lex Luthor? I think that these episodes tie into what has been going on, they just don't contain Clois. So going by this logic, "Prey" and "Abyss" are not to be taken seriously either because Lois wasn't in those episodes.

Legion tied into Brainiac! What?:confused: I never said anything about Chloe or Oliver. Chloe's character hasn't even mentioned her husband since Bulletproof. Oliver has always had it out for Lex. His character was the only one along with Tess' that made any sense to me.

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lol the show is about clark and always has been

You wouldn't know it when his character is around Lana Lang's.

Now, we can finally have the show focus once again on the main character, Clark Kent and his story!

[Drasix]

It matters when her character brings down Clark Kent's character. It matters a lot.



I can see some unresolved feelings being present, but for the writers to have him having full blown feelings for her at this point in his life was not believable to me, especially after he started developing feelings for Lois this season. PS3 and KK were irresponsible in the way they handled her return. They could have had them mutually agree to be friends and always be there for each other while not making either character look bad.



The show has never been about Clana to me. This is an ensemble cast, and there have always been more than one focus, and Clark himself has had other love interests including Lois this season. You could also post numerous Clois loft scenes, Martha and Johnathan loft scenes, and even Lex loft scenes. The show is about Clark Kent and his relationships, all his relationships.



Legion tied into Brainiac! What?:confused: I never said anything about Chloe or Oliver. Chloe's character hasn't even mentioned her husband since Bulletproof. Oliver has always had it out for Lex. His character was the only one along with Tess' that made any sense to me.
lana hasnt brought down clark in any way and lois was the one that had the major feelings for clark.he got caught up in the dancing with her is all that was and there hasnt been a mention of her since.

[myankskent]

It matters when her character brings down Clark Kent's character. It matters a lot.


No argument there, but what does this have to do with who Lana is on this show? She is who she is, there's no changing that now because the comic books can't rectify it.



The show has never been about Clana to me. This is an ensemble cast, and there have always been more than one focus, and Clark himself has had other love interests including Lois this season. You could also post numerous Clois loft scenes, Martha and Johnathan loft scenes, and even Lex loft scenes. The show is about Clark Kent and his relationships, all his relationships.


Fair enough, but let me ask you a question. When talking about romantic relationships on Smallville, out of all of them, which would you consider to be the main romantic relationship on Smallville considering all of the seasons of this show?



Legion tied into Brainiac! What?:confused: I never said anything about Chloe or Oliver. Chloe's character hasn't even mentioned her husband since Bulletproof. Oliver has always had it out for Lex. His character was the only one along with Tess' that made any sense to me.

You said that these last four episodes had nothing to do with the episodes from the first half. How is that given what I just pointed out above?

[Mickey_Bickey]

now your grasping at straws:rotfl:


That's not grasping at straws. Clark and Lois' relationship is believable and makes sense, so much more than the forced, painstaking relationship of Lana and Clark's.

Now, Clark can finally find out what it is to be in a truly fulfilling relationship that will never end.

[Drasix]

That's not grasping at straws. Clark and Lois' relationship is believable and makes sense, so much more than the forced, painstaking relationship of Lana and Clark's.

Now, Clark can finally find out what it is to be in a truly fulfilling relationship that will never end.whats forced about it?Theyve wanted to be together since season 1 and the only thing that kept them apart was clark's lies about his secret.Now its the kryptonite.

[Mickey_Bickey]

lana hasnt brought down clark in any way and lois was the one that had the major feelings for clark.he got caught up in the dancing with her is all that was and there hasnt been a mention of her since.

That's a weak argument, because there's a lot more than just getting caught up in one dance. There was an entire half season to that build up. Clark grabbed her remember in that scene, and TW and ED hit that one out of the park.

There wasn't much mention of her again because of the pitiful writing collaboration of KK and PS3 on Lana Lang's final arc.

[Dominicus]

whats forced about it?Theyve wanted to be together since season 1 and the only thing that kept them apart was clark's lies about his secret.Now its the kryptonite.If you think that's the only thing that keep them apart then you need to go back and watch the episodes, Lana found out about Clark's secret a few seasons back. And it's actually Clark that wanted to be with Lana since season one.

[Drasix]

That's a weak argument, because there's a lot more than just getting caught up in one dance. There was an entire half season to that build up. Clark grabbed her remember in that scene, and TW and ED hit that one out of the park.

There wasn't much mention of her again because of the pitiful writing collaboration of KK and PS3 on Lana Lang's final arc.what happened when lana walked in??i pretty sure i remember him dropping lois like dead weight and smallville has lead us to believe that it will always be this way.You cant possible believe that a nearly 8 year relationship will be thrown out the window for someone he hasnt even kissed yet.Im sure the writers will have him wind up with lois by series end but all the work put into the clana relationship makes it unbelievable and lois seem like second place

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If you think that the only thing that keep them aparat then you need to go back and watch the episodes, Lana found out about Clarks secret a few seasons back. And it's acrttually Clark that wanted to be with Lana since season one.
yeah and a little over halfway through the season she wanted to be with clark as well.thats why she wanted to break up with whitney but didnt bcuz she found out his dad was dying.She found out his secret in season 6 right before she married lex.and was with him through all of 7 till she went catatonic

[unfocused]

Fair enough, but let me ask you a question. When talking about romantic relationships on Smallville, out of all of them, which would you consider to be the main romantic relationship on Smallville considering all of the seasons of this show?

The romance in Smallville isn't what's most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. It's mostly about Clark Kent and his journey into becoming Superman, and for the first seven years, it's also been about Lex Luthor and his journey into becoming Superman's greatest foe.

Looking at the romance aspect of the story, Clana may have been the most visited, utterly persisted relationship, but it is'nt the most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. That's solely reserved for Clois ;)

[Mickey_Bickey]

whats forced about it?Theyve wanted to be together since season 1 and the only thing that kept them apart was clark's lies about his secret.Now its the kryptonite.

Not true. Lana kept far more secrets from him and lied about a lot of things.

Again, they could never have a good relationship because they could never truly trust each other.

You can say all you want about the kryptonite, but that again is the horrendous writing for Requiem. It doesn't make a difference to me about that because the the producers and writers wanted to do something different with Lana's arc. KK didn't see eye to eye with them, so they changed it. See? It was supposed to have a different ending. KK didn't want Lana Lang to see Clark Kent as the "end all be all", so that tells me that the writers originally had this arc tied into what they were doing with Clois in the first 10 episodes.

[unfocused]

Now, Clark can finally find out what it is to be in a truly fulfilling relationship that will never end.

OUCH!

Nice one ;) And so true.

[Drasix]

The romance in Smallville isn't what's most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. It's mostly about Clark Kent and his journey into becoming Superman, and for the first seven years, it's also been about Lex Luthor and his journey into becoming Superman's greatest foe.

Looking at the romance aspect of the story, Clana may have been the most visited, utterly persisted relationship, but it is'nt the most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. That's solely reserved for Clois ;)afraid theres not alot more development he can do besides fly and i dont think he'll be developing much if this is the last season

[Mickey_Bickey]

No argument there, but what does this have to do with who Lana is on this show? She is who she is, there's no changing that now because the comic books can't rectify it.

It has to do with the fact that the writers seem to forget who the main character is when she's involved with the storyline. Clark just ends up looking like a bafoon, and I don't like that.

Fair enough, but let me ask you a question. When talking about romantic relationships on Smallville, out of all of them, which would you consider to be the main romantic relationship on Smallville considering all of the seasons of this show?

Johnathan and Martha I'd say. They have a deep love, understanding, trust and loyalty that surpasses all other relationships I've seen on SV.




You said that these last four episodes had nothing to do with the episodes from the first half. How is that given what I just pointed out above?

I might be missing something, but what did you point out above that ties into this question?:confused:

[Drasix]

Not true. Lana kept far more secrets from him and lied about a lot of things.

Again, they could never have a good relationship because they could never truly trust each other.

You can say all you want about the kryptonite, but that again is the horrendous writing for Requiem. It doesn't make a difference to me about that because the the producers and writers wanted to do something different with Lana's arc. KK didn't see eye to eye with them, so they changed it. See? It was supposed to have a different ending. KK didn't want Lana Lang to see Clark Kent as the "end all be all", so that tells me that the writers originally had this arc tied into what they were doing with Clois in the first 10 episodes.
bottom line is that there are alot people that arent gonna accept clois because it appears thats shes clark's second choice

[Mickey_Bickey]

afraid theres not alot more development he can do besides fly and i dont think he'll be developing much if this is the last season

Not much more he can do besides fly?:confused:

Of course there's is. There's a whole lot more development before he's completely Superman. We just found that out by watching Power and Requiem.:lol:

[myankskent]

The romance in Smallville isn't what's most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. It's mostly about Clark Kent and his journey into becoming Superman, and for the first seven years, it's also been about Lex Luthor and his journey into becoming Superman's greatest foe.

Looking at the romance aspect of the story, Clana may have been the most visited, utterly persisted relationship, but it is'nt the most important to the progressing story and development of the main character. That's solely reserved for Clois ;)

Actually, no woman or relationship should progress Clark. He should do it on his own.

[Mickey_Bickey]

bottom line is that there are alot people that arent gonna accept clois because it appears thats shes clark's second choice

Bottom line, there's going to be a lot of people who accept Clois because they're Superman fans and know that's how the story really goes.;)

[Drasix]

Not much more he can do besides fly?:confused:

Of course there's is. There's a whole lot more development before he's completely Superman. We just found that out by watching Power and Requiem.:lol:how so?but if this is the last season your not gonna see it anyway

[Mickey_Bickey]

Actually, no woman or relationship should progress Clark. He should do it on his own.

He was progressing great in the beginning of the season. I think Lois Lane enhances his character, but I agree that his progression in terms of his identity must come from within. He must grow internally and hopefully we see that again come Infamous.

[unfocused]

afraid theres not alot more development he can do besides fly and i dont think he'll be developing much if this is the last season

Buffy TVS is continued in comic book form. And since Smallville has expanded to comics before, we can probably expect the story to finish up in a limited series should the show end with unfinished stories.

[Timester]

whats forced about it?Theyve wanted to be together since season 1 and the only thing that kept them apart was clark's lies about his secret.Now its the kryptonite.

They are together since the end of season 2.

And Clana is the most dysfunctional relationship that I ever saw on TV. The problem with Requiem is not that thought. We all know that they don't work together because they are dysfunctional, BUT they decided to shove down our throats that they are not together because of Kryptonite.

The writers chosen to ignore 8 years of bad Clana and gave us no closure at all. That's why it sucks. Because Clana sucks storywise and the closure sucks storywise.

[Mickey_Bickey]

how so?but if this is the last season your not gonna see it anyway

Well, any Superman movie you watch or comic book you read will show you how much growth is needed.

We don't have word on a S9, so maybe we won't ever see his full potential.

[Drasix]

Bottom line, there's going to be a lot of people who accept Clois because they're Superman fans and know that's how the story really goes.;)
true but lois will forever be know has clark's SECOND choice on SV.doesnt really matter how you think the story goes.just bcuz the comics say so doesnt mean its gonna be done exactly that way.im interested to see if this is the last season and how they are gonna end it if it is

[unfocused]

Actually, no woman or relationship should progress Clark. He should do it on his own.

Then why did you ask what the main relationship was? :confused:

[Mickey_Bickey]

true but lois will forever be know has clark's SECOND choice on SV.doesnt really matter how you think the story goes.just bcuz the comics say so doesnt mean its gonna be done exactly that way.im interested to see if this is the last season and how they are gonna end it if it is


Well, that's your opinion. I certainly would never see Lois Lane as Clark Kent's second choice.

She's the woman he ends up marrying. In fact Lana's a bridesmaid at their wedding.

[myankskent]

Then why did you ask what the main relationship was? :confused:

Asking what the main relationship was has nothing to do with me believing that a relationship or girl on this show should progress Clark. The point was made that this show was not about Clana and I only pointed out that as far as relationships go, it has received the most attention by far.

[Drasix]

Buffy TVS is continued in comic book form. And since Smallville has expanded to comics before, we can probably expect the story to finish up in a limited series should the show end with unfinished stories.
well at this point the only story to finish up would be killing off doomsday which will probably be apart of the finale should they end it this year.The writers have said that they have an ending ready should the show get cancelled

[Dominicus]

Not true. Lana kept far more secrets from him and lied about a lot of things.

Again, they could never have a good relationship because they could never truly trust each other.

You can say all you want about the kryptonite, but that again is the horrendous writing for Requiem. It doesn't make a difference to me about that because the the producers and writers wanted to do something different with Lana's arc. KK didn't see eye to eye with them, so they changed it. See? It was supposed to have a different ending. KK didn't want Lana Lang to see Clark Kent as the "end all be all", so that tells me that the writers originally had this arc tied into what they were doing with Clois in the first 10 episodes.Agreed, which why KK wants to return, this plot assures that, even with those who can't stand the Lana character want to see this mess fixed, and also why KK put it all on TW for a ninth-season.

There was obvious politicking behind this arc. Tw's Clark was completely emasculated by the end. The arc didn't fit in place with the season, because it was done seperate, and the story seemed rushed. You get the feeling some of the actors didn't like the roles, the only ones that seemed comfortable was KK and Toyman.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Then why did you ask what the main relationship was? :confused:

Good catch actually. No woman or man should ever be defined by the partner they choose to be with.

I think that says it all about Clana. Clark's character has been defined by his relationship with her, and that's just plain wrong. I don't want to see that any longer.

That's why S8 is refreshing minus espisodes 11 - 14 of course.

[unfocused]

Asking what the main relationship was has nothing to do with me believing that a relationship or girl on this show should progress Clark. The point was made that this show was not about Clana and I only pointed out that as far as relationships go, it has received the most attention by far.

But that doesn't mean a thing, since romance isn't what should progress Clark... right? :rolleyes:

[bigblueplanet]

They are together since the end of season 2.

And Clana is the most dysfunctional relationship that I ever saw on TV. The problem with Requiem is not that thought. We all know that they don't work together because they are dysfunctional, BUT they decided to shove down our throats that they are not together because of Kryptonite.

The writers choosed to ignore 8 years of bad Clana and gave us no closure at all. That's why it sucks. Because Clana sucks storywise and the closure sucks storywise.

WORD.

May PS3 hear you.

[Drasix]

Well, that's your opinion. I certainly would never see Lois Lane as Clark Kent's second choice.

She's the woman he ends up marrying. In fact Lana's a bridesmaid at their wedding.again your talking comics again.sv has strayed far and beyond comics in terms of clana and how can you not see lois as second when we know that the only reason hes not with lana is because of the kryptonite.In comics he with lois and shes his first choice but this isnt comics and lois is definatley not his first choice.Blame the sv writers for that

[Mickey_Bickey]

Agreed, which why KK wants to return, this plot assures that, even with those who can't stand the Lana character want to see this mess fixed, and also why KK put it all on TW for a ninth-season.

There was obvious politicking behind this arc. Tw's Clark was completely emasculated by the end. The arc didn't fit in place with the season, because it was done seperate, and the story seemed rushed. You get the feeling some of the actors didn't like the roles, the only ones that seemed comfortable was KK and Toyman.

Absolutely! I totally agree. It was obvious just watching TW's performance in Power and Requiem that he wasn't at his best. So, we'll most likely see an improvement I be come Infamous when the story can get back on track.

[Dominicus]

true but lois will forever be know has clark's SECOND choice on SV.doesnt really matter how you think the story goes.just bcuz the comics say so doesnt mean its gonna be done exactly that way.im interested to see if this is the last season and how they are gonna end it if it isIf that was true then Lana would be Clark's SECOND choice over Alicia. Clark falls hard with whoever he choses to date.:rotfl:

[unfocused]

Lol what is this "Lois is second choice" nonsense I keep seeing around here? :lol:

[myankskent]

But that doesn't mean a thing, since romance isn't what should progress Clark... right? :rolleyes:

Why are you talking about what should or shouldn't progress Clark here? I never said a word about it. I only pointed out that the main romantic relationship on this show is Clana. That's all. Clark's progression has nothing to do with this.

[Drasix]

Agreed, which why KK wants to return, this plot assures that, even with those who can't stand the Lana character want to see this mess fixed, and also why KK put it all on TW for a ninth-season.

There was obvious politicking behind this arc. Tw's Clark was completely emasculated by the end. The arc didn't fit in place with the season, because it was done seperate, and the story seemed rushed. You get the feeling some of the actors didn't like the roles, the only ones that seemed comfortable was KK and Toyman.
hope your right and kk comes back to clear all this up

[myankskent]

If that was true then Lana would be Clark's SECOND choice over Alicia. Clark falls hard with whoever he choses to date.:rotfl:

Actually, Alicia would be Clark's second choice over Lana, since he and Lana dated prior to Alicia entering the show.

[Drasix]

If that was true then Lana would be Clark's SECOND choice over Alicia. Clark falls hard with whoever he choses to date.:rotfl:lol clark's other relationships comprise of 4 episodes.3 with alicia and 1 with kyla:rotfl:

[Mickey_Bickey]

again your talking comics again.sv has strayed far and beyond comics in terms of clana and how can you not see lois as second when we know that the only reason hes not with lana is because of the kryptonite.In comics he with lois and shes his first choice but this isnt comics and lois is definatley not his first choice.Blame the sv writers for that

How can you not see that this arc was bogus, and it didn't play into the real story? We can agree to disagree at this point. I've already gone back and forth with you explaining my position on how I see both relationships.

[Drasix]

Lol what is this "Lois is second choice" nonsense I keep seeing around here? :lol:
on SV she is the second choice as of right now...lol you honestly think thats clark's character would choose lois over lana at this point?

[Alania]

She found out his secret in season 6 right before she married lex.and was with him through all of 7 till she went catatonic

Aren't you forgetting a certain doppelganger in between?!


They are together since the end of season 2.

And Clana is the most dysfunctional relationship that I ever saw on TV. The problem .

Dysfunctional?! You're being mild, that was a havoc in love!

[Drasix]

How can you not see that this arc was bogus, and it didn't play into the real story? We can agree to disagree at this point. I've already gone back and forth with you explaining my position on how I see both relationships.
Lana has been apart of the "main story" since the beginning.She is his object of affection and has been since ep.1.I do agree to disagree

[Mickey_Bickey]

lol clark's other relationships comprise of 4 episodes.3 with alicia and 1 with kyla:rotfl:

That's not correct. The major relationship in Clark/Superman's life is with Lois Lane, and that comprised most of the first half of this season, and most likely will pick up where they left off.;)

[Dobson]

Mickey_Bickey, we were watching S8, then all of a sudden we got episodes that were from season 7, (which is where they fit), and when the show comes back it will continue season 8. this is where you are coming from?

[Dominicus]

Actually, Alicia would be Clark's second choice over Lana, since he and Lana dated prior to Alicia entering the show. Nope, because she wasn't sloppy second's did they not date prior? And their relationship ended in death.

[Drasix]

[quote=Alania;4447415]Aren't you forgetting a certain doppelganger in between?!

lol that lasted what?1 episode and only bcuz she thought it was clark?dont know why you keep bringing him up

[supes0]

They are together since the end of season 2.

And Clana is the most dysfunctional relationship that I ever saw on TV. The problem with Requiem is not that thought. We all know that they don't work together because they are dysfunctional, BUT they decided to shove down our throats that they are not together because of Kryptonite.

The writers choosed to ignore 8 years of bad Clana and gave us no closure at all. That's why it sucks. Because Clana sucks storywise and the closure sucks storywise.

Yep. There was no closure. And regardless of who came up with the last two episodes, it damaged Clark Kent (not to mention Oliver). Because what are the odds we're going to see Clark grieving? What are the odds we are going to see him search for a cure? My guess? Not very high.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Lana has been apart of the "main story" since the beginning.She is his object of affection and has been since ep.1.I do agree to disagree

Well, luckily her character is gone for good. Clark can finally focus on the person he's supposed to truly be with until the end which is Lois Lane.

[myankskent]

Nope, because she wasn't sloppy second's did they not date prior? And their relationship ended in death.

Clark and Lana dated at the end of season 2. Alicia entered the show in season 3 for one episode and season 4 for 2 episodes.

[Drasix]

That's not correct. The major relationship in Clark/Superman's life is with Lois Lane, and that comprised most of the first half of this season, and most likely will pick up where they left off.;)ther is no relationship with lois lane!they havent even kissed,went out on a date or even held hands.they danced and "almost kissed" whoopty doo

[mr lane]

[quote=Alania;4447415]Aren't you forgetting a certain doppelganger in between?!

lol that lasted what?1 episode and only bcuz she thought it was clark?dont know why you keep bringing him up

because truthfully Lana preferred Bizzaro over Clark it was the fact that she still had some sense in her to get rid of him since deep down he was evil

and Chloe was in the room with Bizzaro for less than 5 minutes and knew it wasn't clark

Lana was with him for a month and didnt see or want to see that it wasn't clark

[myankskent]

Yep. There was no closure. And regardless of who came up with the last two episodes, it damaged Clark Kent (not to mention Oliver). Because what are the odds we're going to see Clark grieving? What are the odds we are going to see him search for a cure? My guess? Not very high.

Exactly. I'm sure that if something like this happened where Lois was meteor infected, Clark would take a major hit for this kind of thing, but I guess since it's Lana, Clark's forgiven.:rolleyes:

[Alania]

That's not correct. The major relationship in Clark/Superman's life is with Lois Lane, and that comprised most of the first half of this season, and most likely will pick up where they left off.;)

25 days and 5h, Michele, 25 days!


[quote=Alania;4447415]Aren't you forgetting a certain doppelganger in between?!

lol that lasted what?1 episode and only bcuz she thought it was clark?dont know why you keep bringing him up

Exactly, after seven years she couldn't tell the difference between the real and the evil, when she was supose to. Clark's words, not mine!

[Mickey_Bickey]

Mickey_Bickey, we were watching S8, then all of a sudden we got episodes that were from season 7, (which is where they fit), and when the show comes back it will continue season 8. this is where you are coming from?

I think that's a good way to put it actually! Yes, these episodes don't tie into anything we watching before them, and I suspect the following episodes will carry on where they left off in Bride.

[Drasix]

Yep. There was no closure. And regardless of who came up with the last two episodes, it damaged Clark Kent (not to mention Oliver). Because what are the odds we're going to see Clark grieving? What are the odds we are going to see him search for a cure? My guess? Not very high.
agreed..if he doesnt grieve or search for a cure it we'll reflect badly on ck

[Mickey_Bickey]

25 days and 5h, Michele, 25 days!

[quote=Drasix;4447424]

Exactly, after seven years she couldn't tell the difference between the real and the evil, when she was supose to. Clark's words, not mine!


Yes! Less than a month before we get to see Superman "out himself to Lois Lane"!

[unfocused]

Why are you talking about what should or shouldn't progress Clark here? I never said a word about it. I only pointed out that the main romantic relationship on this show is Clana. That's all. Clark's progression has nothing to do with this.

Exactly. Thank you. What ever relationship has been the main one in Smallville for 7.5 years... is not important :)

[Dominicus]

lol clark's other relationships comprise of 4 episodes.3 with alicia and 1 with kyla:rotfl:wrong seasons 3 and 4 comprised with Alicia to show extension. And it doesn't matter how long, it is the feelings involved, he loved Alicia and when talks of having an equal in a relationship, always wanting one, Alicia is the reason or that. How many episodes did Lana and clark actually stay together? between whiney, insecurities, Lex, teague, and her own ambition ect: Just as many. Each relationship Clarks has is to prepare him for his future endeavors as far as relationships goes. It tragic that is effects him from actually becoming superman.

[myankskent]

Exactly. Thank you. What ever relationship has been the main one in Smallville for 7.5 years... is not important :)

Ok...then no relationship is important then. Clark's progression is the only thing that matters.

[Mickey_Bickey]

agreed..if he doesnt grieve or search for a cure it we'll reflect badly on ck

Well, considering we have spoilers for Clark's character falling hard for Lois and lust and emotions flying with Lois I can't see him having the time to find a cure!:lol:

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wrong seasons 3 and 4 comprised with Alicia. And it doesn't matter how long, it is the feelings involved, he loved Alicia and when talks of having an equal in a relationship, always wanting one, Alicia is the reason or that. How many episodes did Lana and clark actually stay together? between whiney, insecurities, Lex, teague, and her own ambition ect: Just as many.

I agree that Clark never would have been with Lana or Lois on this show if Alicia was still on it. She died giving him no choice but to start up again with Lana.

[Drasix]

wrong seasons 3 and 4 comprised with Alicia. And it doesn't matter how long, it is the feelings involved, he loved Alicia and when talks of having an equal in a relationship, always wanting one, Alicia is the reason or that. How many episodes did Lana and clark actually stay together? between whiney, insecurities, Lex, teague, and her own ambition ect: Just as many. Each realtionship Clarks has is to prepare him for his future endeavors as far as relationships goes. It tragic that is effects him from actually becoming superman.
wrong.he forgot about alicia the following episodes that she appeared in

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Drasix;4447424]

because truthfully Lana preferred Bizzaro over Clark it was the fact that she still had some sense in her to get rid of him since deep down he was evil

and Chloe was in the room with Bizzaro for less than 5 minutes and knew it wasn't clark

Lana was with him for a month and didnt see or want to see that it wasn't clark


Good points!! Chloe could tell, and even Lois knew Clark was acting funny. She smacked him in the face for grabbing her bum. Even Bizarro said "how could a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time" completely smitten with Lois. I believe if Lois gave him the time of day he would have jumped ship immediately!:lol:

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wrong.he forgot about alicia the following episodes that she appeared in

Right, just like he'll forget about Lana in the episodes she's not in.

[Drasix]

Well, considering we have spoilers for Clark's character falling hard for Lois and lust and emotions flying with Lois I can't see him having the time to find a cure!:lol:

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I agree that Clark never would have been with Lana or Lois on this show if Alicia was still on it. She died giving him no choice but to start up again with Lana.
if he finds time to 'fall hard' for lois before the season is up then its epic fail

[unfocused]

on SV she is the second choice as of right now...lol you honestly think thats clark's character would choose lois over lana at this point?
Hmm, would Clark choose Lois or Lana? Lana is... the walking kryptonite who has some new found hunger for power. I highly doubt Clark would choose the walking kryptonite.


Well, considering we have spoilers for Clark's character falling hard for Lois and lust and emotions flying with Lois I can't see him having the time to find a cure!:lol:

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I agree that Clark never would have been with Lana or Lois on this show if Alicia was still on it. She died giving him no choice but to start up again with Lana.

True. If you really want to know what forced separation is... it's Alicia's death.

[Mickey_Bickey]

if he finds time to 'fall hard' for lois before the season is up then its epic fail

No, epic fail was the notion that Clark and Lana's relationship ended by circumstance.

[Kid Collins]

[quote=Alania;4447443]25 days and 5h, Michele, 25 days!




Yes! Less than a month before we get to see Superman "out himself to Lois Lane"!

Another lightswitch moment for Clois! As usual. What's new? :rotfl:

[Mickey_Bickey]

True. If you really want to know what forced separation is... it's Alicia's death.

True! They had great chemistry together I have to say!

[myankskent]

True. If you really want to know what forced separation is... it's Alicia's death.

Alicia and Clark really weren't dating when she died. Things had cooled off between them because of the whole redK thing the episode before that. As a matter of fact, Clark actually thought that Alicia was responsible for the deaths that were happening in this episode.

[Drasix]

[quote=mr lane;4447437]


Good points!! Chloe could tell, and even Lois knew Clark was acting funny. She smacked him in the face for grabbing her bum. Even Bizarro said "how could a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time" completely smitten with Lois. I believe if Lois gave him the time of day he would have jumped ship immediately!:lol:

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Right, just like he'll forget about Lana in the episodes she's not in.yeah im sure he'll forget the love of his life thats been in nearly every episode ..that would make alot of sense lol not

[Dobson]

I think that's a good way to put it actually! Yes, these episodes don't tie into anything we watching before them, and I suspect the following episodes will carry on where they left off in Bride.

I could also of seen this working better if KK's epsiodes had been at the first of the season, and then followed up with what we got in the first half.
In any event, it was bad storytelling.
The big thing though is will they or won't they show Clark in Supermoping mode.
If they don't, how are we supposed to take the Clana arc seriously, if they don't even bother to?

[Dominicus]

wrong.he forgot about alicia the following episodes that she appeared inIt's not wrong. So if Clark moves on infamous, forgetting about lana that means Lana never meant anything to him? Nonsense. thinking a bit small, especially sense it been said on the show a hundred times. Each relationship Clark has serves a purpose through the pain comes wisdom and revelation. Lana was meant to be a learning exprience.

[mr lane]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447479]yeah im sure he'll forget the love of his life thats been in nearly every episode ..that would make alot of sense lol not

the writers are known for doing things that dont make sense

like the past 5 episodes :cool:

[wafflles87]

True! They had great chemistry together I have to say!

Agreed. I liked Alicia a whooole lor more than I did Lana. Well, minus the obsessed psycho part in her first appearance.
I actually felt sad when she died.
Second time I watched Requiem, I was actually laughing at the end of the lameness of it all.

[unfocused]

Good points!! Chloe could tell, and even Lois knew Clark was acting funny. She smacked him in the face for grabbing her bum. Even Bizarro said "how could a guy miss what's been right in front of him all this time" completely smitten with Lois. I believe if Lois gave him the time of day he would have jumped ship immediately!:lol:

haha I was actually going to reply to that to. Not even Lana could tell the difference between Clark and Bizzy.

Sad, really.

[Drasix]

It's not wrong. So if Clark moves on infamous, forgetting about lana that means Lana never meant anything to him? Nonsense. hinking a bit small, especially sense it been said on the show a hundred times. Each relationship Clark has serves a purpose through the pain comes wisdom and revelation. Lana was meant to be a learning exprience.
Alicia lasted 3 episodes..its completely different with lana.the only time he said he loved alicia is when he was on red k

[mr lane]

Agreed. I liked Alicia a whooole lor more than I did Lana. Well, minus the obsessed psycho part in her first appearance.
I actually felt sad when she died.
Second time I watched Requiem, I was actually laughing at the end of the lameness of it all.


when you think about it all that Alicia did it doesn't compare to all that Lana would eventually do in the later seasons so I really dont think alicia was THAT psycho :lol:

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447447]

Another lightswitch moment for Clois! As usual. What's new? :rotfl:


Speaking of lightswitches, how about the one that goes on and off with Clark's character when he gets around Lana Lang?:lol:

[Alania]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447447]

Another lightswitch moment for Clois! As usual. What's new? :rotfl:

Won't be lightswitch, Clark is just gonna get back to his senses and think: why on earth was i settling for a meteor rock when i can have a diamond?

[Kid Collins]

[quote=Kid Collins;4447495]


Speaking of lightswitches, how about the one that goes on and off with Clark's character when he gets around Lana Lang?:lol:

That's not a lightswitch...Clark crazy for Lana has been going on for 7 years!!

Consistent and never changing. :lol:

[mr lane]

Won't be lightswitch, Clark is just gonna get back to his senses and think: why on earth was i settling for a meteor rock when i can have a diamond?

nicely put and thats exactly how these past 5 episodes have set it up ;)

[Mickey_Bickey]

yeah im sure he'll forget the love of his life thats been in nearly every episode ..that would make alot of sense lol not


Nothing makes more sense than for Clark to find the actual love of his life, Lois Lane.

[Kid Collins]

Nothing makes more sense than for Clark to find the actual love of his life, Lois Lane.

In the comics but in Smallville, lightswitch, sloppy seconds...not Clark's FIRST CHOICE. Lana!!

[myankskent]

It's not wrong. So if Clark moves on infamous, forgetting about lana that means Lana never meant anything to him? Nonsense. hinking a bit small, especially sense it been said on the show a hundred times. Each relationship Clark has serves a purpose through the pain comes wisdom and revelation. Lana was meant to be a learning exprience.

If Clark quickly moves on from Lana, it's bad writing, no doubt about that. It certainly would make his character look bad. However, the main issue that I have is that Clana were in a serious romantic relationship and were forced to split up because of kryptonite. Remove the kryptonite from the situation and I just can't see them not being together at this point. Once again, not saying that the relationship would've lasted, but the history of this show does say that Clark and Lana would always come back to each other no matter what. Now, they can't because of kryptonite.

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Drasix;4447498]

the writers are known for doing things that dont make sense

like the past 5 episodes :cool:


Very true!

[Nerial]

One saving grace about this episode is that KK's contract is up, and I seriously doubt she will be back. Not that I have a problem with KK--in fact, I think she does great considering what she is given--but Lana and especially Clana is nothing but a big pile of angst, and I'm glad to see it gone.

The silver lining of this episode is that Lana is out of here. Clark can move on--actually, if you want to pretend these episodes never existed, you probably could within the next episode or two. So, yay!

Forget this Clana crap, and move on.

[Dominicus]

[quote=Drasix;4447498]

the writers are known for doing things that dont make sense

like the past 5 episodes :cool:Agreed, like taking acid and being stuck in the past. It was way over-the-top.
:eek:

[Drasix]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447518]

That's not a lightswitch...Clark crazy for Lana has been going on for 7 years!!

Consistent and never changing. :lol:true..so true

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In the comics but in Smallville, lightswitch, sloppy seconds...not Clark's FIRST CHOICE. Lana!!
lol you took the word right out of my mouth

[mr lane]

Agreed, like taking acid and being stuck in the past. It was way over-the-top.
:eek:

agreed

[unfocused]

People, please go easy with the spoilers and insinuations to them. I already have a vague understanding of what's going to happen in Hex and Infamous even though I have strongly avoided the spoilers section.

I'd really like to continue in this discussion, but saying something big in the Clois relationship will happen in Infamous really ruins it for me :(

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447518]

That's not a lightswitch...Clark crazy for Lana has been going on for 7 years!!

Consistent and never changing. :lol:

That's incorrect. He's had feelings for more than Lana on this show quite a few times. Go back and read some of the other posts in this thread. There are also plenty of episodes where he's not pining for Lana. Plus, Lana was with Lex, Bizarro and Jason. They haven't consistently been together at all.

[Drasix]

If Clark quickly moves on from Lana, it's bad writing, no doubt about that. It certainly would make his character look bad. However, the main issue that I have is that Clana were in a serious romantic relationship and were forced to split up because of kryptonite. Remove the kryptonite from the situation and I just can't see them not being together at this point. Once again, not saying that the relationship would've lasted, but the history of this show does say that Clark and Lana would always come back to each other no matter what. Now, they can't because of kryptonite.
very true

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Kid Collins;4447495]

Won't be lightswitch, Clark is just gonna get back to his senses and think: why on earth was i settling for a meteor rock when i can have a diamond?

Exactly! Clark's going to move on to the one true lady love of his life, Lois Lane!:D

[mr lane]

In the comics but in Smallville, lightswitch, sloppy seconds...not Clark's FIRST CHOICE. Lana!!

never changing?

did you forget

Whitney?

Jason?

Lex?

off and on off and on off and on

like..a light switch

[Drasix]

[quote=Kid Collins;4447522]

That's incorrect. He's had feelings for more than Lana on this show quite a few times. Go back and read some of the other posts in this thread. There are also plenty of episodes where he's not pining for Lana. Plus, Lana was with Lex, Bizarro and Jason. They haven't consistently been together at all.
no but if he would have told her his secret in the beginning they would have been

[Mickey_Bickey]

If Clark quickly moves on from Lana, it's bad writing, no doubt about that. It certainly would make his character look bad. However, the main issue that I have is that Clana were in a serious romantic relationship and were forced to split up because of kryptonite. Remove the kryptonite from the situation and I just can't see them not being together at this point. Once again, not saying that the relationship would've lasted, but the history of this show does say that Clark and Lana would always come back to each other no matter what. Now, they can't because of kryptonite.

I disagree completely.

KK and PS3's version of the Clana resolution was bad writing. Bottom line.

[Drasix]

never changing?

did you forget

Whitney?

Jason?

Lex?

off and on off and on off and on

like..a light switchyeah but it always winds up as clana in the end

[wafflles87]

Exactly! Clark's going to move on to the one true lady love of his life, Lois Lane!:D

Yup. Finally time for him to move on from the chick who's POISON to him (thanks to Requiem, it's now also literally, as well as figuratively)

[unfocused]

Don't forget, during Adam's arc, she and Clark were on awkward terms. Nothing romantic about them.

[Kid Collins]

[quote=Alania;4447520]

Exactly! Clark's going to move on to the one true lady love of his life, Lois Lane!:D

We'll see about that. Spoilers sometimes don't always pan out the way you think.

My gut feeling is that Clois will never get off the ground in SV. I still think there's a DC restriction on having full blown Clois.

Let's see if I'm right.

[Alania]

In the comics but in Smallville, lightswitch, sloppy seconds...not Clark's FIRST CHOICE. Lana!!

Correction: first love, not first choice. Lois is the last and sloppy seconds just got a whole new meaning, given the fact that she is the ultimate love. Give me that sloppy seconds, one heck of a love!!!!

[Drasix]

People, please go easy with the spoilers and insinuations to them. I already have a vague understanding of what's going to happen in Hex and Infamous even though I have strongly avoided the spoilers section.

I'd really like to continue in this discussion, but saying something big in the Clois relationship will happen in Infamous really ruins it for me :(seriously doubt anything big will happen in their relationship in infamous..if it does then epic fail

[mr lane]

no but if he would have told her his secret in the beginning they would have been

if he would have told her his secret but he never did

she made it a mission to find out on her own

I dont think clark ever had intentions to tell lana his secret especially after reckoning

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447550]
no but if he would have told her his secret in the beginning they would have been


No, they wouldn't because she's not the one he's meant to be with. Something else would have come between them. He's destined for one woman and one woman only, and that's Lois Lane.

[Drasix]

Correction: first love, not first choice. Lois is the last and sloppy seconds just got a whole new meaning, given the fact that she is the ultimate love. Give me that sloppy seconds, one heck of a love!!!!
no lana is first love and first choice on sv...nobody can argue that

[unfocused]

In terms of who Clark spends the rest of his life with, Lois is THE FIRST AND ONLY CHOICE.

[SGuthrie27]

I am SO glad that Clana is over. I think it needed resolution, and though I may not be 100% happy with the ending they gave it (I'd rather they have mutually agreed they needed to move on than be forced apart), I'm glad that we can finally move on to more important matters. :)

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Drasix]

Yup. Finally time for him to move on from the chick who's POISON to him (thanks to Requiem, it's now also literally, as well as figuratively)but without the poison..lois is yesterdays news to clark

[wafflles87]

DING-DONG the witch is GONE!

[scifigirl]

I got the complete companions for each season for Christmas. I just read something that put this all into perspective. It is a quote from Al Gough. He said "It is a central tenant of this show that Clark and Lana will always love each other. Even if they can't be together..." It is obvious that Ps3 were following the Gouglar vision. If I had read this sooner, I think I would have seen this mess coming or at least I would not have hoped for closure.

[Mickey_Bickey]

seriously doubt anything big will happen in their relationship in infamous..if it does then epic fail


Again, the epic fail was the writing of Lana's arc.

Lois and Clark coming together would be an epic success IMO after this disasterous interruption in S8. Afterall, they are the iconic, legendary couple. It makes perfect sense to me that Superman be with his leading lady, Lois Lane.

[Kid Collins]

Correction: first love, not first choice. Lois is the last and sloppy seconds just got a whole new meaning, given the fact that she is the ultimate love. Give me that sloppy seconds, one heck of a love!!!!

Correction.

In SV Lana is the love of Clark's life. Lois was around for 4 seasons as Clark's older sister.

In the comics, Clark falls in love with Lois at first sight when he sees her at the DP.

In SV when Clark lost his memory in Blank, and Lois was already in the show, he still fell in love with LANA at first sight. Chloe actually told Clark, when he asked her who Lana was....her reply, "That is Lana, the Love of Your Life.".

In the comics, Clark always loved Lois first.

In SV, Clark not only dumped Lois twice in Crimson but nearly kissed her in Bride but totally forgot about her when he saw Lana in the same ep.

[Drasix]

Don't forget, during Adam's arc, she and Clark were on awkward terms. Nothing romantic about them.yeah but he still wanted to be with her during that time..just didnt want to keep lying to her

[Dominicus]

If Clark quickly moves on from Lana, it's bad writing, no doubt about that. It certainly would make his character look bad. However, the main issue that I have is that Clana were in a serious romantic relationship and were forced to split up because of kryptonite. Remove the kryptonite from the situation and I just can't see them not being together at this point. Once again, not saying that the relationship would've lasted, but the history of this show does say that Clark and Lana would always come back to each other no matter what. Now, they can't because of kryptonite.I say it's because of smallville, and Clark wanting to stay a little boy. Since he won't grow up on his own, it is forced. History repeated itself once again. Their personalities were going to collide eventually, it's classic of their relationship, doomed to fail. Why I consider it no different then Alicia. What I do find more interesting is episodes like hypnotic vs instinct. I don't care about emotions on the surface, it's the deeper submerged feeling that are most important.

[myankskent]

I got the complete companions for each season for Christmas. I just read something that put this all into perspective. It is a quote from Al Gough. He said "It is a central tenant of this show that Clark and Lana will always love each other. Even if they can't be together..." It is obvious that Ps3 were following the Gouglar vision. If I had read this sooner, I think I would have seen this mess coming.


Which makes this entire series different from the comics. That's my main issue. Clana was given way too much importance during the series and was given way too much importance at the end of the series. But, this is the story that TPTB chose to write.

[Drasix]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447555]

We'll see about that. Spoilers sometimes don't always pan out the way you think.

My gut feeling is that Clois will never get off the ground in SV. I still think there's a DC restriction on having full blown Clois.

Let's see if I'm right.
i agree wholeheartedly

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In terms of who Clark spends the rest of his life with, Lois is THE FIRST AND ONLY CHOICE.in the comics yeah,in SV no

[wafflles87]

but without the poison..lois is yesterdays news to clark

When Clark actually does fall in love with Lois, he'll realize that what he's feeling with her is infinitely stronger than what he felt with Lana. We always tend to believe that our first love is so grand, and that nothing will fill that void when it's gone, but that's cause we don't have anything to compare with.

If Lana comes back cured when Clark and Lois are allready in love, Clark will be able to honestly tell her that what he feels for Lois is stronger than anything he felt for her (Lana).

[Drasix]

When Clark actually does fall in love with Lois, he'll realize that what he's feeling with her is infinitely stronger than what he felt with Lana. We always tend to believe that our first love is so grand, and that nothing will fill that void when it's gone, but that's cause we don't have anything to compare with.

If Lana comes back cured when Clark and Lois are allready in love, Clark will be able to honestly tell her that what he feels for Lois is stronger than anything he felt for her (Lana).seriously doubt it..not in smallville clana land.it would never happen

[Alania]

Correction.

In SV Lana is the love of Clark's life. Lois was around for 4 seasons as Clark's older sister.

In the comics, Clark falls in love with Lois at first sight when he sees her at the DP.

In SV when Clark lost his memory in Blank, and Lois was already in the show, he still fell in love with LANA at first sight. Chloe actually told Clark, when he asked her who Lana was....her reply, "That is Lana, the Love of Your Life.".

In the comics, Clark always loved Lois first.

In SV, Clark not only dumped Lois twice in Crimson but nearly kissed her in Bride but totally forgot about her when he saw Lana in the same ep.

Ok, so smallville is different, i get your point. Lois and Clark weren't suppose to have anything romantic in previous seasons and the reasons for that are beyond all ships. Now, if you'll excuse me, i'm just gonna wait for my clois love, 25 days till the kick off!!:cool:

[Drasix]

Correction.

In SV Lana is the love of Clark's life. Lois was around for 4 seasons as Clark's older sister.

In the comics, Clark falls in love with Lois at first sight when he sees her at the DP.

In SV when Clark lost his memory in Blank, and Lois was already in the show, he still fell in love with LANA at first sight. Chloe actually told Clark, when he asked her who Lana was....her reply, "That is Lana, the Love of Your Life.".

In the comics, Clark always loved Lois first.

In SV, Clark not only dumped Lois twice in Crimson but nearly kissed her in Bride but totally forgot about her when he saw Lana in the same ep.so true..you cant deny that

[Mickey_Bickey]

i agree wholeheartedly

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in the comics yeah,in SV no

You need to fix something in the way you do your quotes, because it's showing that I said something I never did. It's was a quote from Kid Collins yet it says my name. Please fix it as that is not opinion. Post # 684

[wafflles87]

seriously doubt it..not in smallville clana land.it would never happen

Well, the future has yet to be determined;)
Guess we'll just live and see

[Mickey_Bickey]

[quote=Mickey_Bickey;4447555]

We'll see about that. Spoilers sometimes don't always pan out the way you think.

My gut feeling is that Clois will never get off the ground in SV. I still think there's a DC restriction on having full blown Clois.

Let's see if I'm right.

Off the ground? It was off the ground before Legion, and I suspect the journey will continue with the spoilers from the real writers of the show.

[Kid Collins]

Ok, so smallville is different, i get your point. Lois and Clark weren't suppose to have anything romantic in previous seasons and the reasons for that are beyond all ships. Now, if you'll excuse me, i'm just gonna wait for my clois love, 25 days till the kick off!!:cool:

Knock yourself out.

[Drasix]

clark fell in love with lana at first site in the first grade.hes know lois for 4 seasons and nothing besides being friends has happened.Bottomline Smallville=Clana and Comics=Clois its as simple as that

[bigblueplanet]

If Clark quickly moves on from Lana, it's bad writing, no doubt about that. It certainly would make his character look bad. However, the main issue that I have is that Clana were in a serious romantic relationship and were forced to split up because of kryptonite. Remove the kryptonite from the situation and I just can't see them not being together at this point. Once again, not saying that the relationship would've lasted, but the history of this show does say that Clark and Lana would always come back to each other no matter what. Now, they can't because of kryptonite.

ITA. They gave us the worst ending imaginable for Clana that they could possibly come up with. Incredibly dumb choice IMHO, because it really hurts the show as a whole.

[Drasix]

You need to fix something in the way you do your quotes, because it's showing that I said something I never did. It's was a quote from Kid Collins yet it says my name. Please fix it as that is not opinion. Post # 684
yours is doing the exact same thing to me

[Timester]

In the comics, Clark falls in love with Lois at first sight when he sees her at the DP.

Not always. Action Comics #1 shows otherwise.


In SV when Clark lost his memory in Blank, and Lois was already in the show, he still fell in love with LANA at first sight. Chloe actually told Clark, when he asked her who Lana was....her reply, "That is Lana, the Love of Your Life."

Considering that they were 19 years old, "love of your life" is kinda meaningless...


In SV, Clark not only dumped Lois twice in Crimson but nearly kissed her in Bride but totally forgot about her when he saw Lana in the same ep.

But, as I always said and defended, Clois is not supposed to happen in Smallville. BUT Clana isn't also the endgame. One not being doesn't automatically means the other being. Which is something that Clana fans never understood.


But the thread is about a bad (no) ending to a bad relationship.

[Mickey_Bickey]

When Clark actually does fall in love with Lois, he'll realize that what he's feeling with her is infinitely stronger than what he felt with Lana. We always tend to believe that our first love is so grand, and that nothing will fill that void when it's gone, but that's cause we don't have anything to compare with.

If Lana comes back cured when Clark and Lois are allready in love, Clark will be able to honestly tell her that what he feels for Lois is stronger than anything he felt for her (Lana).


That's why Superman stays with Lois Lane and holds her in the highest regard. I think that's how the writers will do the necessary damage control that this arc did to the Clark Kent character and one of the main storylines this season.

[mr lane]

Ok, so smallville is different, i get your point. Lois and Clark weren't suppose to have anything romantic in previous seasons and the reasons for that are beyond all ships. Now, if you'll excuse me, i'm just gonna wait for my clois love, 25 days till the kick off!!:cool:


they werent supposed to have anything romantic but the beginning of season 8 sure has been throwing it out there! right? :cool:

I mean who am i to question someone who can kick my ass like MAXIMA on clark and lois' could be relationship

[Dominicus]

seriously doubt it..not in smallville clana land.it would never happen If there's another season, I wouldn't bet on Clana. To be honest every Lois episode indicated something greater, but in bloodline pretty much sealed the deal with no one is going to meas with Lois and Clark. The tease it play around with it, but they are not going stray from it.

[unfocused]

in the comics yeah,in SV no

Lana's gone. Clark won't be spending the rest of his life with her.

In terms of who Clark spends the rest of his life with, LOIS IS THE FIRST AND ONLY CHOICE.

[Mickey_Bickey]

yours is doing the exact same thing to me


No, it's not anything I'm doing. Everyone I quote comes out specifically as the person that I'm quoting. If you can just maybe go back and edit that. I don't want to give anyone the impression that it's my opinion or anything I would have said. Thanks.

[Drasix]

Not always. Action Comics #1 shows otherwise.



Considering that they were 19 years old, "love of your life" is kinda meaningless...



But, as I always said and defended, Clois is not supposed to happen in Smallville. BUT Clana isn't also the endgame. One not being doesn't automatically means the other being. Which is something that Clana fans never understood.


But the thread is about a bad (no) ending to a bad relationship.love of your life isnt meaningless when he has loved her since the first grade

[mr lane]

No, it's not anything I'm doing. Everyone I quote comes out specifically as the person that I'm quoting. If you can just maybe go back and edit that. I don't want to give anyone the impression that it's my opinion or anything I would have said. Thanks.

it was doing it to me a few posts back like i would hit quote but the coding was all crazy i had to keep adjusting it

but it seems to be working now i think there was a gliche going on

[wafflles87]

If there's another season, I wouldn't bet on Clana. To be honest every Lois episode indicated something greater, but in bloodline pretty much sealed the deal with no one is going to meas with Lois and Clark. The tease it play around with it, but they are not going stray from it.

Seriously, they've been throwing so many Clois anvils this season, if we just collect them all we can bury Clana under a ton of Clois :D

[Drasix]

No, it's not anything I'm doing. Everyone I quote comes out specifically as the person that I'm quoting. If you can just maybe go back and edit that. I don't want to give anyone the impression that it's my opinion or anything I would have said. Thanks.same here ..its only doing it with you

[Mickey_Bickey]

In terms of who Clark spends the rest of his life with, Lois is THE FIRST AND ONLY CHOICE.

So true! Clark doesn't even know what love is yet!;):D

[unfocused]

clark fell in love with lana at first site in the first grade.hes know lois for 4 seasons and nothing besides being friends has happened.Bottomline Smallville=Clana and Comics=Clois its as simple as that

Not anymore, lol. There's no Clana without Lana ;)

But since there is Lois, there will be Clois.

[Drasix]

Lana's gone. Clark won't be spending the rest of his life with her.

In terms of who Clark spends the rest of his life with, LOIS IS THE FIRST AND ONLY CHOICE.
yeah in the comics not in sv

[wafflles87]

love of your life isnt meaningless when he has loved her since the first grade

He didn't love her since first grade. He thought he did, yes.
You can't say you LOVE someone just because you find the beautiful. Love isn't that superficial to be based on looks.

[Timester]

love of your life isnt meaningless when he has loved her since the first grade

When you are 19... Did you miss that?

[Mickey_Bickey]

love of your life isnt meaningless when he has loved her since the first grade

We're talking puppy love here? That's not adult love. That's the whole point. When you finally meet that one person you end up marrying all other past loves pale in comparison. That's why Clark Kent will falls in love with Lois and stays in love with her. She is the love of his life, and we know that because the story has been written for decades.

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Not anymore, lol. There's no Clana without Lana ;)

But since there is Lois, there will be Clois.

Good point!:lol:

[unfocused]

yeah in the comics not in sv

Lana's gone. There is no more Clana in Smallville. We will move on to bigger and better thing now, like Clark will :)

[Timester]

yeah in the comics not in sv

You keep missing the part that Clois is the endgame in Smallville, making this Clana no ending suck beyond the suckitude.

Lana is GONE.

[Drasix]

Not anymore, lol. There's no Clana without Lana ;)

But since there is Lois, there will be Clois.if it ends this season there will be no clois not enough time left for him to kill off doomsday and get in a serious relationship with lois and kk said she would come back if needed

[Mickey_Bickey]

When you are 19... Did you miss that?

I don't! Good point as always!!

[Drasix]

You keep missing the part that Clois is the endgame in Smallville, making this Clana no ending suck beyond the suckitude.beginnings of clois perhaps but serious relationship no..especially if it ends this season

[Mickey_Bickey]

if it ends this season there will be no clois not enough time left for him to kill off doomsday and get in a serious relationship with lois and kk said she would come back if needed

She also said a few days later that she would not be returning to SV.

[Drasix]

She also said a few days later that she would not be returning to SV.
nope she said she would return for the series finale if they have a part for her to play

[Mickey_Bickey]

beginnings of clois perhaps but serious relationship no..especially if it ends this season

Clana was never a serious relationship with all their other partners and break ups! They were happy for like 10 episodes. That's not a lasting, serious relationship at all.

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nope she said she would return for the series finale if they have a part for her to play


I saw that, and a few days later she came back and said she would not be returning as Lana Lang.

[Timester]

if it ends this season there will be no clois not enough time left for him to kill off doomsday and get in a serious relationship with lois and kk said she would come back if needed

KK also said that she is done after that. It's pointless to keep bringing that, because it works on assumptions of things that we don't know.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Lana's gone. There is no more Clana in Smallville. We will move on to bigger and better thing now, like Clark will :)


So true! We can get back to Superman business again! I have really missed seeing that minor detail during these last few episodes.

[myankskent]

KK also said that she is done after that. It's pointless to keep bringing that, because it works on assumptions of things that we don't know.

Yeah. At this point, we have to assume that KK is not coming back, which is why there is such a big problem with how this Clana relationship has ended.

[Drasix]

When you are 19... Did you miss that?well lets see hes loved her for what 15 or 16 years ...doesnt matter if he didnt know what love was in the first grade...he cared about her since the day he layed eyes on her and thats all that matters

[Timester]

beginnings of clois perhaps but serious relationship no..especially if it ends this season

I don't want Clois on Smallville. I simply don't want Clark to look like a bafoon and jumping from girl to girl. For that, we have Lana.

Amazing, 8 years of Smallville and Lana was ALWAYS a love interest...

[Dominicus]

yeah in the comics not in svSV too, they've been saying since season 4, they're not going to stray from the mythos, they're just telling an old story in a new light. Lois and Clark, daily planet, metropolis the only thing missing is Perry White. High school's over, Clana is over, though we may see lana again, but it will not be the same slack-jawed clark. Things change, and people evolve. Clark is still evolving into superman, but when he actually becomes superman it's a wrap.

[Mickey_Bickey]

well lets see hes loved her for what 15 or 16 years ...doesnt matter if he didnt know what love was in the first grade...he cared about her since the day he layed eyes on her and thats all that matters

No, he's loved her part time for 7 seasons and she him.

[Drasix]

So true! We can get back to Superman business again! I have really missed seeing that minor detail during these last few episodes.i havent noticed the past few episode of anyone missing?who could you mean?

[wafflles87]

We all know Clark Kent isn't the type to have just... a fling. He gives everything in a relationship, so if Lana were indeed his one true love and all that jazz, Lois wouldn't be his sloppy seconds, because he would never move on to Lois, especially since Lana is still alive. He would wait until he could be with her again. Centuries after Lois died of old age, Clark still hasn't moved on, and unlike Krypto infection, death is not something one might hope to cure. Even Superman.

[Mickey_Bickey]

i havent noticed the past few episode of anyone missing?who could you mean?

I mean Superman of course! You know, the guy the show is actually about!

[Drasix]

No, he's loved her part time for 7 seasons and she him.
lol no hes loved her and her him the whole time..they havent always seen eye to eye obviously

[Timester]

well lets see hes loved her for what 15 or 16 years ...doesnt matter if he didnt know what love was in the first grade...he cared about her since the day he layed eyes on her and thats all that matters

Unless you are expecting Clark to die next week, I don't see how Lana is the love of his life. Especially when he is going to end up with Lois. And I'm nothing seeing Lana going off-planet... Wait, who am I kidding? Lana is Kryptonite Girl, she will be the first human on Pluto!

[Drasix]

I mean Superman of course! You know, the guy the show is actually about!who said he was a minor detail?

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Unless you are expecting Clark to die next week, I don't see how Lana is the love of his life. Especially when he is going to end up with Lois. And I'm nothing seeing Lana going off-planet... Wait, who am I kidding? Lana is Kryptonite Girl, she will be the first human on Pluto!
in SV land...lana lang is the love his life...in comics lois is and you nor anyone else can deny that.Smallville is lana land and comics is lois land.its that simple

[Mickey_Bickey]

I don't want Clois on Smallville. I simply don't want Clark to look like a bafoon and jumping from girl to girl. For that, we have Lana.

Amazing, 8 years of Smallville and Lana was ALWAYS a love interest...

See, I don't see Lois Lane's character ever making Clark look like a bafoon. That the beauty of their characters together on this show. She brings out something in him that few do, and that's that fiesty, authoritative, confident side that I enjoy seeing.

I'm not saying that the focus should be on Clois at all. I still want to see the focus on Clark and his journey. I don't see if done right though that having a relationship with Lois Lane would bring down his character much less affect any storylines adversely.

[Drasix]

as of right now she is the love of his life

[mr lane]

lol no hes loved her and her him the whole time..they havent always seen eye to eye obviously


not the whole time

lana loved whitney in season 1 and show no feelings of love toward Clark

and again

whitney

adam

jason

lex

lana has loved them all at some point so no they did not love each other through it all

[Drasix]

See, I don't see Lois Lane's character ever making Clark look like a bafoon. That the beauty of their characters together on this show. She brings out something in him that few do, and that's that fiesty, authoritative, confident side that I enjoy seeing.

I'm not saying that the focus should be on Clois at all. I still want to see the focus on Clark and his journey. I don't see if done right though that having a relationship with Lois Lane would bring down his character much less affect any storylines adversely.
you wont have to worry about that bcuz by the time he gets with her the series will be over

[Timester]

See, I don't see Lois Lane's character ever making Clark look like a bafoon. That the beauty of their characters together on this show. She brings out something in him that few do, and that's that fiesty, authoritative, confident side that I enjoy seeing.

The Clana no-ending made Clark look like a bafoon. He was totally whipped there.

[Drasix]

not the whole time

lana loved whitney in season 1 and show no feelings of love toward Clark

and again

whitney

adam

jason

lex

lana has loved them all at some point so no they did not love each other through it allshe had feelings for clark halfway through season 1 which is why she tried to break it off with whitney

[Timester]

in SV land...lana lang is the love his life...in comics lois is and you nor anyone else can deny that.Smallville is lana land and comics is lois land.its that simple

I'm talking about storywise. There is no "this is Smallville, not the comics", the story is one and the same. There must be a flow on the writing, or else it sucks and is simply bad story.

And the next time you "misunderstand" someone's post, I'll report you as a troll.

[Alania]

Yeah. At this point, we have to assume that KK is not coming back, which is why there is such a big problem with how this Clana relationship has ended.

I don't mind her coming back, honestly, cause i find very hard that the writers will try to push Clana again, cause that relationship, at this point, simply doesn't have a place anymore in SV. They way things are going, it all points out to Clois, even if it's just a beggining. So KK may come back, but probably Lois and Clark will be totally in love.

[unfocused]

if it ends this season there will be no clois not enough time left for him to kill off doomsday and get in a serious relationship with lois and kk said she would come back if needed
And what will your excuse be if Smallville doesn't end this season?


The Clana no-ending made Clark look like a bafoon. He was totally whip there.

That's because it was Lana. Not Lois.

[Mickey_Bickey]

as of right now she is the love of his life

No, I'd say Alicia was. They had more passion between them in those few episodes together than Clana did in 7 seasons.

[Dominicus]

See, I don't see Lois Lane's character ever making Clark look like a bafoon. That the beauty of their characters together on this show. She brings out something in him that few do, and that's that fiesty, authoritative, confident side that I enjoy seeing. Agreed. I cannot see Lois allowing him to be so weak groveling. if he crawled to her like he did with Lana. I think it would go something like this "Smallville... what the hell are you doing? Get up, seriously you're turning hulk green!"

[wafflles87]

Agreed. I cannot see Lois allowing him to be so weak groveling. if he crawled to her like he did with Lana. I think it would go something like this "Smallville... what the hell are you doing? Get up, seriously you're turning hulk green!"

That right there is so Lois :lol:

[Timester]

That's because it was Lana. Not Lois.

I know that, but it's bad story. I wanted Clark to say "Maybe is the final nail on out dysfunctional relation, as a sign that we are simply not meant to be."

THAT is a closure. Doesn't matter if is Lana, Lois, Chloe or the Metropolis Sharks.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Unless you are expecting Clark to die next week, I don't see how Lana is the love of his life. Especially when he is going to end up with Lois. And I'm nothing seeing Lana going off-planet... Wait, who am I kidding? Lana is Kryptonite Girl, she will be the first human on Pluto!


That's a good point, because since the love of Superman's life, Lois Lane, is already on this show no one can argue that it's somebody else.

[supes0]

Unless you are expecting Clark to die next week, I don't see how Lana is the love of his life. Especially when he is going to end up with Lois. And I'm nothing seeing Lana going off-planet... Wait, who am I kidding? Lana is Kryptonite Girl, she will be the first human on Pluto!

See this is the problem. The way this arc "ended" does not negate Clark is going to end up with Lois feeling she is the love of his life. It might not be believable (and I'm not expecting it to be, not after the last two episodes), but that is the way the story goes. Yes this is Smallville, but time and again the producers have said they are not allowed to change that Clark ends up with Lois.

Will it look like 'sloppy seconds'? To some in the audience, yes. But not internally to the characters, because Clark will have an epiphany (or lightswitch, whatever you want to call it) Lois is soulmate before the series ends. This has been a running thread the first 10 episodes of season 8.

Is it contrived? I believe so. But bad story telling won't change the end of the journey.