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sarcami

02-10-2009, 05:12 PM

After about five days to calm my nerves I've decided to use one of my favourite albums to review this episode.

1. Intro

Teacher:Lois lane?
Lois: Here
Teacher: Oliver Queen?
Oliver:Here
Teacher:Jimmy Olsen?
Jimmy:Here
Teacher:Clark Kent
(silence)
Teacher:Clark Kent?

2. Lost Ones

Now, now how come your talk turn cold
Gained the whole world for the price of your soul
Tryin' to grab hold of what you can't control
Wisdom is better than silver and gold
Your movement's similar to a serpent
Tried to play straight, how your whole style bent
Consequence is no coincidence
Hypocrites always want to play innocent
Always want to take it to the full out extent
Always want to make it seem like good intent
Never want to face it when it's time for punishment
I know that you don't wanna hear my opinion
But there come many paths and you must choose one
And if you don't change then the rain soon come
See you might win some but you just lost one

This song totally depicts my frustration with Lana Lang. She did all those seemingly bizarre and unforgivable things throughout the years and Requiem just white washed it all. I do not like this character and her end had no form of closure for she and Clark. I hope she learns the saying you reap what you sow.Itis like Lex new her better than herself and Clark. He knew she would not destroy the suit and used it against them.

3. Ex-Factor

I keep letting you back in
How can I explain myself
As painful as this thing has been
I just can't be with no one else
See I know what we got to do
You let go and I'll let go too
'Cause no one's hurt me more than you
And no one ever will

This song defines Clana. Lauryn could not have said it better. This relationship is full of hurt and pain and misery but the two just can't seem to let go of each other. To the writers what a cop out. This relationship was doomed from its unset and they have turned it into we can't be together because the world is against us. What utter bull poop. The show has shown us for seven years that their inability to communicate like normal people has lead to their separation. No they had to go this route for dramatic effect. Well they have failed. Most people on this site had already figured out the ending. There was no twist, just plain boring Clana as it has always been.

4.To Zion

Zion-Utopia: an imaginary place considered to be perfect or ideal

If this show showed us anything this week was that there is no Zion in Smallville. The episode started off showing us Clana in their zion which was destroyed by Lex. If anything I have just realized that this was the swan song of the relationship. This was their perfect time together and it was ripped from them. Lana literally changed herself for Clark. No young woman should do this for a man. If you feel that you have to change yourself so much to be in a relationship then avoid it like how superman avoids kryptonite. I guess that is what the writer were trying to convey, but I really think this is my view on their relationship.

5. Do Wop(That Thing)

Guys you know you better watch out
Some girls, some girls are only about
That thing, that thing, that thing

For some reason I believe that Lana's main motivation for becoming super was to have supersex. I know you will say that no it's to help Clark yes that is true but only secondary to physical intimacy. She hounded Clark for sex before and now she can get it anytime she wants. Go Lana. I don't blame you Clark is hot.

6. Superstar

Now, who you know without any flaws
That lives above the spiritual laws
And does anything they feel just because
There's always someone there who'll applaud

Although Clana has been miseducated it seems like Oliver and Chloe have fallen down the rabbit hole of morality. Vigilante justice seems to have skewed these two and they both say that they are protecting Clark. It is funny that they say this and have broken Clark's golden rule: do not kill. They were both hypocrites in this epi and they called each other out. Both characters now are flawed and it will be interesting to see whether or not they remain as heroes or descend into villainy. This was my favourite part of the episode. At least Chloe and Oliver entertained me.

7. Final Hour

You could get the money
You could get the power
But keep your eyes on the final hour

Oh Lana you got his money, you took his power but you never kept your eyes on the final hour. So Lex trumped you once again. Now to believe that the greatest criminal mind who knows an aliens secret, a powerful alien at that, only causes his girlfriend to leave him as a master plan is just all kinds of wrong. Lex is just not ready yet. Lionel was correct. Lex is still in the Little Leagues. Come back Lex and bring a stronger plan. I know you are not dead. You complete Clark.

8. When it hurts so bad

When it hurts so bad, when it hurts so bad
Why's it feel so good

This sums up my entire relationship with Smallville. Even if they make crapfests of episodes and hurt me I still come back. I am a true masochist.

What you want might make you cry
What you need might pass you by
If you don't catch it,
If you don't catch it,
And what you need ironically
Will turn out what you want to be
If you just let it,

This part points to the closure of Clana and the beginning of Clois. Although I am not a shipper I despise Clana not because of Clois but because they were just so boring. I hope Clois is not as unbearable. The quote calso points to if Clark lets go of his past he will become Superman.

9. I used to love him

This song is for Chloe for she definitely does not love Jimmy. He is non existent to her. I hope they break up. Chimmy is to me over.

10. Forgive them Father

Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us
Although them again we will never, never, never trust
Forgive them father for they know not what they do

Ah PS3 for this Lana arc I will never again trust you. Our ideas of closure and propelling Clark to become Superman are just not the same things. It was nice for the little while we were in harmony.

11. Every Ghetto Every City

You know it's hot, don't forget what you've got
Looking back

Requiem meant that Clark had to release his hope for a relationship with Lana. When he looked back he chose to see only the highlights. This usually happens at funerals. We only tend to remember the good and dismiss the bad from our minds.

12. Nothing Even Matters

Now the skies could fall
Not even if my boss should call
The world it seems so very small
'Cause nothing even matters at all

That is how Clark saw Lana. It is not Lana's fault but I just guess that Lana represents Smallville and this town always kept Superman back. He had to leave it to don the cape. Since this show always wants to put a new spin they had Smallville (Lana) leave Clark instead. We may not like it but that's how the show runners wanted it.

13. Everything is Everything

Everything is everything
What is meant to be, will be
After winter, must come spring
Change, it comes eventually

14. The Miseducation of Clark Kent

My world it moves so fast today
The past it seems so far away
And life squeezes so tight that I can't breathe
And every time I've tried to be
What someone else thought of me
So caught up, I was unable to achieve
But deep in my heart the answer it was in me
And I made up my mind to define my own destiny

I still believe that Clark will man up and become Superman. His love life is in the toilet but we saw him make some god strides this season. I want him to learn through all these experiences and by the end of this season lay to rest whiney mopey Clark Kent.

BadToad

02-10-2009, 05:18 PM

You can twist it and validate it however you want, the facts remain. Both took on super powers, one was evil, the other neutral, one resulted in saving a city, the other put the world in jeopardy.

How exactly did Chloe "take on" super powers? Please explain.

Did Chloe willingly pursue Brainiac powers? The answer is No.
Did Chloe know she was going to get infected by Brainiac? The answer is No.
Did Chloe even know she was going up against Brainiac? The answer is No.

Did Lana willingly pursue super powers? The answer is Yes.
Did Lana know what the suit would do? The answer is Yes.
Did Lana plan and plot to get the suit from Lex, and use it herself? The answer is Yes.

Again, I'm at a complete loss as to how these 2 situations are being deemed as the same, and the claim that Chloe is being judged as harshly as Lana for doing the same thing. Maybe because it wasn't the same thing at all.

I think my last comment was probably overdone, I didn't mean to insinuate people can't think straight necessarily, just that they tend to be harder on Lana.

Which again, is just another way to dismiss what they are saying as just some anti-Lana bias. And I find that equally condescending. I am sorry if I came across too strong in your opinion, but quite frankly, I'm very tired of people dismissing the legitimate criticisms people have about this episode to merely anti-Lana bias. And frankly Cogito, thats what you were doing.

Iluvgreen

02-10-2009, 05:19 PM

Lana leaving definately gave it a boost.

TShirt60

02-10-2009, 05:25 PM

*goes to Webster's dictionary to re-read the definition of "closure"*

Man what a letdown .. the season started off soooo great, above everyone's expectations .. Clark was moving on .. acting more and more like Superman .. getting closer to Lois ..

then ... TRAINWRECK .. everything that was building up and looking so promising gets torn down. Clark decides to go right back to where he was seasons ago -- "let's screw the world, I just want to be with you" despite HOW MANY TIMES realizing that this wasn't the right thing to do? Did the writers even watch the last few seasons? .. then of course ... Lana with superpowers and she goes off to save the rest of the world .. this is "closure"??? Man I must be really missing something. The videotape was more closure than this. So the series is gonna end with superpowered Lana somewhere in the world fighting crime?

Clark coming to the realization that he simply can't be with Lana because of what danger that would bring to her is 500x more closure than this.

What also makes me mad is that Toyman I thought was great - acted perfect. And then wasted on such an episode that takes the series back 3 seasons. And now Lex is dead ... again .... like there is some suspense there or someone out in the world that really believes Lex is gone and they've just rewritten the comics.

It's going to be hard for me to watch the rest of this season. And then in a way, I really hope there is another season so they can reverse a lot of this crap. Please don't let the series end with (a) Lex being thought "dead" (b) Lana being Supergirl around the world (c) The Green Arrow "killing" Lex (d) Clark forever loving Lana and the only reason they don't stay together is a Kryptonite power suit ...

*heavy sigh*

These were my thought exactly, i hated this episode. For one we thought that this season might not be so bad without michael at the beginning. After all, now Clark was getting closer to his destiny and starting to get closer to Lois. Then suddenly, Lana is back for another round of this Clana piece of crap recycled storyline. I never liked Lana, i thought she was just a cripple to Clarks destiny and to the show as a whole, all I can say is that I'm glad shes gone for good now (and youd think they would have ended their relationship better too, *sigh*). But of course, they have to degrade the image of Lex too, by inserting some random voice, and "killing him" in the stupidest of ways. Do you know how furious michael would be if he saw this? he would never come back if they payed him too (which is what I think these creators are going to resort to doing with the direction the show's going). Dont even get me started on how they had to put Toyman here using him as a filler. I'm going to have a hard time ever watching this show again, it has gotten so stupid and cliche. The only hope I have is that by some miracle michael will guest star and they will never do this kind of a thing again. This episode in my opinion was an epic failure.

Hopefulsuicide

02-10-2009, 05:27 PM

Also, people talk about how they can't wait for Lana to be gone so Clark will start acting the way he acted before she arrived. To which I ask: You mean when he sat around and did nothing, knowing that Brainiac was inhabiting Chloe's body eventually putting the world at risk?

I liked Requiem, but I can't say I am surprised to see it getting such poor scores from fans. The Lana episodes had to walk a very thin line to appease K-Siters (Note: K-Site does not represent Smallville fandom as a whole), and the moment Lana and Clark locked lips in Bulletproof, anything that followed was doomed imo.

I'm not saying that there aren't things to be criticized, but I feel a lot of it is unjustified. I am glad Lana is gone, and it's not because I don't like her character. People complain that Clark can't think straight around Lana, the irony is that many fans are incapable of thinking straight with her around as well.

I think perfectly straight and i think you'll find it's true of most of the posters on this board. Was there massive criticism of Bride? Legion? NO! and Lana was in those...

It's not Lana herself, or even Clana that has cause this massive reaction, but simply the storyline of Lana's that involved a hideous storyline for Clana.

RedArrow62

02-10-2009, 05:30 PM

It was another mediocre episode. I like Kristin. But, it was time for Lana to go! (season six finale would have been better). I saw the signs that she was going to be poison to Clark 3 weeks ago. One of the previews showed her and Clark in the barn when he collapsed. Then when the previews for Requeim showed the Kryptonite bomb cinched it for me.
TPTB were on a roll through Legion. Then they hit a brick wall called Lana. Let's hope that now she is gone, they will pick up the pace again. They have proven that they can do outstanding work.

Fan Forever

02-10-2009, 05:49 PM

I've been watching smallville since and i definetely have to say that this episode was the best....so powerful ! especially the end. Lana and Clark were made to be together. i was crying for the first time:(...this was pretty intense. But at the same time, i was tired of their short romance...it's only last for 2 or 3 episodes. This time is done...no more romance.
I just want to say thank you for this special moment i was waiting for so long. i thought i will never see them again together before the end of Smallville..
Thank you than you!!!:):)

Cogito17

02-10-2009, 06:27 PM

How exactly did Chloe "take on" super powers? Please explain.

Did Chloe willingly pursue Brainiac powers? The answer is No.
Did Chloe know she was going to get infected by Brainiac? The answer is No.
Did Chloe even know she was going up against Brainiac? The answer is No.

Did Lana willingly pursue super powers? The answer is Yes.
Did Lana know what the suit would do? The answer is Yes.
Did Lana plan and plot to get the suit from Lex, and use it herself? The answer is Yes.

Again, I'm at a complete loss as to how these 2 situations are being deemed as the same, and the claim that Chloe is being judged as harshly as Lana for doing the same thing. Maybe because it wasn't the same thing at all.

Which again, is just another way to dismiss what they are saying as just some anti-Lana bias. And I find that equally condescending. I am sorry if I came across too strong in your opinion, but quite frankly, I'm very tired of people dismissing the legitimate criticisms people have about this episode to merely anti-Lana bias. And frankly Cogito, thats what you were doing.

Last post on this for me, this feels too much like an argument, not a discussion. Ironically, you are somewhat making my point for me... but whatever.

Chloe knew about her powers coming from Brainiac as early as Toxic, and with full knowledge, she accepted those powers and did absolutely NOTHING to get rid of them. She may not have sought them out, but she certainly wasn't doing anything to get rid of them even though she KNEW it was coming from Brainiac. As she said herself, she was looking at them as a gift.

Bottomline: Chloe's decision to embrace super powers put the whole world in danger. Lana's decision to seek super powers saved lives. Twist it however you like.

As I pointed out in my previous post, you were equally dismissive of my posts which you failed to acknowledge. I apologized for that last statement about fans not thinking logically, but you must admit, Lana gets a lot of criticism, much of which I feel is undeserved and not always bestowed on other characters in similar situations. Your opinion may vary.

cma_454

02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

I apologized for that last statement about fans not thinking logically, but you must admit, Lana gets a lot of criticism, much of which I feel is undeserved and not always bestowed on other characters in similar situations. Your opinion may vary.

Some feel that those who truly dislike the character Lana are unreasonably critical of her.

Some feel that those who really like the character Lana are unreasonably defensive of her.

Some people react to one of these without recognizing that others may see them doing the other.

Hopefulsuicide

02-10-2009, 07:03 PM

Chloe knew about her powers coming from Brainiac as early as Toxic, and with full knowledge, she accepted those powers and did absolutely NOTHING to get rid of them. She may not have sought them out, but she certainly wasn't doing anything to get rid of them even though she KNEW it was coming from Brainiac. As she said herself, she was looking at them as a gift.

Bottomline: Chloe's decision to embrace super powers put the whole world in danger. Lana's decision to seek super powers saved lives. Twist it however you like.

Chloe had a horrible situation forced on her, and she tried to do the best she could with it. Chloe embracing her powers saved Clark and Lois from the phantom zone. It wasn't her deciding to do this that put the world in danger, but the fact that Brainiac ended up winning. She didn't do anything to stop it because there was nothing she could do. If someone had offered her a way out and she had declined because she wanted the powers i would agree with you, but she simply accepted what she could not change.

What Lana did put herself in hideous danger, and she was LUCKY that it didn't kill her. I don't see this as the same thing. Nothing she has done with her powers so far have saved anyone but Dr Grohl.

cody

02-10-2009, 07:07 PM

maybe she just needed super powers cuz she was super horny and hadnt gotten any in so long...and clark only gives it up to superpowered chicks for sum reason! ;) lol j/p

Actually since you say that I realize why they may have even included the bed scene in the beginning. It was mentioned last season that Clark and Lana didn't have sex. Until she gained some of his powers we didn't realize this. But the bed scene in Requiem just reinforced the fact that they were pretty much on equal ground on all fronts, bedroom now included:)

BadToad

02-10-2009, 07:10 PM

Bottomline: Chloe's decision to embrace super powers put the whole world in danger. Lana's decision to seek super powers saved lives. Twist it however you like.

You know, for someone that is offended when you think you are being talked down to, you certainly don't have a problem doing it to others.

"Twist it however you like"? Thats being respectful of a differing opinion? No, not IMO.

I would actually agree with you that Chloe was foolish in not being more concerned about what she gained from the attack by Brainiac. But its still not at all comparable to what Lana did, or Lana's situation overall. Chloe didn't know of any way to "cure" herself. Its also debateable if Chloe was even thinking entirely clearly due to Brainiac having some influence. That is ambigious. But again, it most assuredly sets her situation apart from Lana.

And yes, I do have a tendency to be dismissive of someones opinion when they are so openly dismissing of mine. I'm quirky that way.

cody

02-10-2009, 07:12 PM

I'm not harking on anyone, Chloe or Clark included, but I did find it slightly odd that neither of them tried to figure out her super smarts. Don't know what they could have done about it, but watching the progression of episodes it did cross my mind and pester me a tad. Anyway, it all turned out fine.

Seeya'round Smallville

02-10-2009, 07:19 PM

Darth Pipes

02-10-2009, 07:52 PM

I gave this episode a big, fat Clark Kent. Meaning a 5/10.

The Good: Everything that didn't involve Clark. I thought the Toyman was pretty cool and I'm glad the character escaped at the end. Oliver's trip to the dark side was awesome. I objected to Oliver's reason for killing Lex a couple of episodes ago because there is no excuse for killing someone for the crimes of their father. That being said, I think Lex needs to be taken out for all that he's done and how can you really blame Oliver for doing it after this episode? Lex bombed his own building, killing the board of directors and injuring Oliver. He threatened to blow up the Daily Planet, which would have killed a lot more people. He manipulated all of these events with a crippled body...how can you allow someone that dangerous to continue killing and plotting. I think Oliver did the right thing even though we all know Lex is not truly dead. As for pinning the murder on the Toyman, why not? The guy is already a killer.

That shot of Oliver looking like Lex is fantastic. I truly hope they don't have it revealed that Lex transfered his "katra" into Ollie. That would be a lame cop-out and having Ollie starting to become Lex on his own would demonstrate a rare subtly for this show. He was very Lex-like in blackmailing Chloe.

As for the no-killing thing, I've read few comics that involve the Green Arrow so I'm no judge of his character. I do remember during the Batman: Hush Returns where Arrow actually tries to kill Promethus during a battle.

I liked the way they brought Lex back too. It worked for me.

The FX on Clark's face was pretty damn cool.

The Bad: Two words...CLARK KENT!!!

Where to begin. Do we start with the embarrassing aftermath of superhuman sex between Clark and Lana? Nope! Let's start with Clark the hypocrite. Once again, he lectures Chloe, the woman who has protected his secret as fiercly as his parents, about trust. Who the hell is this guy to lecture her about trust? Clark essentially mind-raped Chloe by taking her memories without her consent and he hasn't had the guts to reveal that to Chloe. I'm disgusted that the writers have allowed him to get away with that. Then he tells Chloe that he's moved on...so why is he still slobbering over Lana?

The worst of the worst...Clana. To say this episode put Clark Kent and the show several steps back, is an understatement. For Clark to finally move on, after years of wishy-washyness, he HAD to be the one to end his relationship with Lana. It was a vital step in him becoming the hero he's destined to be. But nope...Lana once again is the one to end this relationship and give Clark yet another out. Sure, Clark decided to allow Lana to injest the kryptonite but basically because Lex put a gun to his head. Lana was 100% wrong when she said Clark was stronger than she was. If Clark was strong, he would have been the one to willingly put the relationship behind her. But Clark "Angst Forever" Kent is too weak to do that and realistically cannot become Superman. As someone said, he still views Lana as his fairy tale princess who can do no wrong. Basically, in Smallville Clark and Lana were destined to be together if not for a convient plot device. Absolutely pathetic, writers!!!

Goldie

02-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Did not like Requiem or Power. (Lana a superhero, please) Writer's have dug themselves in a hole. Lana was never Clark's true love. Lois was never second best. Really tired of Clark's obsession with Lana. Also, in Bride, Lana received a text message, "Did the Archer believe you", what was that all about, kind of left hanging. I hope Tom Welling stays with the show, and the show gets back on track.

Cyn

02-10-2009, 08:29 PM

So far, the Clana Arc has been a stake through the heart of season 8 Smallville. As disgusting as it was, let's just hope it wasn't a fatal blow.

NoSupeForYou

02-10-2009, 09:13 PM

Remember back in September-November when this was a fun action-adventure series? With comedy, some romance, some drama, but overall happy characters? When the main character didn't end every episode looking like someone kicked his puppy? Good times. I miss when the show didn't have to be a Greek tragedy every week.

As for this ep and the entire 4 episode arc, in particular the last 2? I'm just gonna rip-off the Principal from Happy Gilmore.

"Smallville, what you've just given us is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent presentation were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having watched it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." :)

That's my favorite part of any Adam Sandler movie. It fits so well in life and though I don't feel dumber for having been put through that arc, I do feel like I lost something.

Maybe it's because they so thoroughly trashed my favorite superhero with this whole ridiculous Lana as his equal because she has powers bit. It was so stupid that in Power they went with that plot that she was trying to become a strong and independent woman and then in Requiem they make it look like she only did it so Clark would accept her.

I felt absolutely no pity for either of them at the end of the episode. What I felt was more like relief that they were finally being forced to stop destroying one another.

jjsmallvillelvr

02-10-2009, 09:24 PM

i liked it and i cried when lana left

SGuthrie27

02-10-2009, 09:48 PM

I don't think it will be, Cyn. At least, I hope it won't. Welcome to the boards, Goldie. I agree with most everything you said there, and I think you'll find that there are plenty of people on these boards who share your opinions on these issues. Let's hope that "Infamous" gets us back on track in March. I'll be counting down the days soon...

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

vdodirector

02-11-2009, 09:26 AM

My biggest problem with the last two episodes is that they gave Lana super powers. Is there any ordinary human in the show anymore? I hate that Lana sought out her powers and that she is now a match for Clark. Even though she is gone, they let her keep the powers - which I never thought she should've gained in the first place. I really didn't like that arc.

I've also come to the conclusion that to appreciate the series, we have to come to terms with a few things. 1) this is their version of Clark Kent. Don't look for the suit, don't look for accurate mythology. Just come to terms with the fact that they are making their own mythology. If you can swallow that, then you can best enjoy the series. 2) This isn't a show about Superman. This is an alternate universe where Clark never becomes Superman, where his true love is Lana, and where the future is not set.

Don't get me wrong, I love Smallville and Superman. But this is the only way I can swallow the fact of the no tights no flights, and the lana super hero arc.

skugers

02-11-2009, 10:06 AM

SupaBoy

02-11-2009, 11:49 AM

I liked it a lot:D

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I am a 17 year old guy.
I have loved smallville for many years, and embraced every episode.
But this is the first time I have cried from a scene in Smallville.
The pain in Clark's face as he was going up to kiss Lana for the last time. Was so beautiful and sad.

And lex described it best. They're star crossed lovers.
I really was actually getting a bit of the Clana relationship, due to all the ups and downs
but I love Lana, and Kristin Kreuk as an actress.
I think it was a beautiful way of her goodbye for the show.
I already miss her.

Great episode 11/10

Dude and i'm a 16 year old guy never cried at tv before, holymoly this scene came close, had to hold it in though was sitting with my dad haha:lol:

tibbit78

02-11-2009, 03:47 PM

My favorite part of Requiem was the very end when Lana Lang was sobbing (Kristin Kreuk did an excellent job).

Tom looked very sad towards the end, and he too, did an excellent job.

sebari77

02-11-2009, 05:11 PM

I grow weary of the "they're doing their own mythology" cop-out that gets cited on this forum a lot.

They are >not< making their own mythology.

At most, they're expanding an existing mythology - giving their own take on it.

The show is called SMALLVILLE. The central character is taken from the world of SUPERMAN. Almost every major character is grounded in the pre-existing world of Superman mythology.

SV has its own unique spin, a fresh take on the material - but if they're not expanding the myth of Superman, what business do they have using its characters and universe? If the show's "CK" was just some dork named Caleb Knight, with a best friend named "Larry Livingstone" and had romantic feelings for two girls named "Louise Lipschitz" and "Lateitia Lopez" and was allergic to brown rocks, who would care? Who would've watched?

If you're going to benefit from all the positive energy and ready-to-watch fanbase that's going to give your Superman-based show a chance, there are at least *some* major elements that should be non-negotiable.

For example, I don't think it's absurd to require that the character actually capable of becoming a Super Man.... and not a whiny insular non-reactive passive wimp who is destined to stay balled up in a fetal position in a hay loft in a state of permanent adolescence. Maybe I'm asking too much.

SV is in grave danger of destroying its connection to the mythology and imploding into just another bad teen soap opera; which is a shame, because it had such a timeless and brilliant start.

dimeo782002

02-11-2009, 07:45 PM

I didn't analyze or critique anyone, I said it's ironic that people criticize one and not the other and I said that the episodes get harsher criticism than they deserve.

It's ironic that you accuse me of dismissing others opinion for being anti-Lana, then turn around and suggest that I would be incapable of intelligent discussionfor saying something that might be pro-Lana. (The sarcastic bolded part)

And, if Lex had put on the suit, it probably would have been a lot worse.

You can twist it and validate it however you want, the facts remain. Both took on super powers, one was evil, the other neutral, one resulted in saving a city, the other put the world in jeopardy.

It wasn't a "cheap shot" on Clark, I'm just saying that he hasn't been as 100% flawless for the first part of the season as people like to make it out now that Lana is around.

This is just condescending and sarcastic. You pre-emptively dismiss what I say by insinuating that I am anti-anti-Lana. Just as bad as what you accuse me of doing.

You are entitled to that opinion. I think my last comment was probably overdone, I didn't mean to insinuate people can't think straight necessarily, just that they tend to be harder on Lana. However, I will not carry on a discussion with someone who is being openly condescending and sarcastic towards me including the "rolling eyes" emoticon and accusing me of taking "cheap shots". Have a good one.

you did nothing wrong you are entitled to your opinion . also someone telling other posters that they are irrational or can't think clearly is also violation of k site rules. you have a right to your opinion and i saw nothing wrong with your post. its your opinion as your entitled. if you feel harassed or called delusional or anyone ever threatens your sanity on k site you can report them.

im sad to see people do this especially when they no better.:(:( leave people have there opinions just a one time friendly reminder for us all.

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oh and i agree with others lana and chloe's situstion is different. lanawent looking for power . chloe had it forced upon her. she should have been more careful but she did save people as well. chloe sacrifices herself for others she tried to use brainiacs powers for the greater good. lana imo is power hungry to be clarks equal cause she did not feel worthy of him as human. but it cost her his love there relationship she paid a high price for the power she wanted she has now .lost clark. but someone had a very good point . the blue ring if clark had one of those he could be near her cause it makes him human right ? then he could take it off when its time to be super. ( hopefully ps3 don't think of that ) LMAO ! i liked the episode cause it followed smallville cannon... lana and clark are smallville cannon and now its over.i much rather it been a mutual breakup like they realise it just wouldn't work this was a little over the top. but it was smallville for me.

but anyway lets all get along and be happy

jjsmallvillelvr

02-11-2009, 09:07 PM

ive gotta quit reading these boards they are depressing me. I love smallville. and i think their take on the superman myth is fine. in the end it will all be fine im sure. i think we should all just relax and enjoy the ride! :D SMALLVILLE ROX!!!

batgurl

02-11-2009, 10:55 PM

I hate Lana with a passion and am glad this useless character is gone.I hate they try to make her and Clarke's sex scenes amusing.She is disgusting.Always has been.They should have Clarke more developing into his superhero image, than showing him in bed.

bigblueplanet

02-12-2009, 05:27 AM

I waited one whole week to write what I felt about this episode so that anger in my voice tone down to a friendly level. I read many other reviews to earn different perspective but that didn’t change how I felt. I don’t mean to offend anyone who won’t share my POV, nor hurt another fan’s feelings. I wrote this because the show hurts MY feelings. I want my voice to be heard, for whoever approved these last two episodes to air.

Love it or hate it? What do you think PS3?

Lana Lang. A super girl who got away with all those questionable things she’s done in the past. Not even her boyfriend who (supposedly) stands for justice and truth won’t tell her a thing. Everything is peachy when it comes to Lana but there's nothing new about it in this show. So this time for her final arc, the writers retconned everything inconvenient (includes Clark’s progression for the last 12 episodes), in order to fit her into this so-called ‘beautiful heroic send off’. Her boyfriend also often inspires others not to kill, but this noble code of his apparently only applies as long as bad guys won’t try to break him up with her. Now the Lex Luthor, the greatest criminal mind of our time, is also determined to break up this couple. Instead of, ……....oh I don’t know, maybe try to kill his arch enemy? He’s got enough quantities of Kryptonite to do the job at least. But no. He definitely wants to break them up. And as a result, he’s got two arch enemies afterwards. One Kryptonian man and one Kryptonite woman. Both completely mad with him (because he broke them up!!!) and both possessed superpowers far beyond those of mortal men. Way to go, Lex. You’ve got yourself into a serious trouble! (If you’re still alive, that is.)

Back to the story of Lana and her boyfriend. (I’m sorry Toyman. You were pretty cool but I won’t write about you. Chloe and Oliver neither. This episode was suppose to be ‘epic’ for me, only because of THE moment I’ve been waiting for since Season 5. )

So, on to my personal list of “Cheer and applaud for Clark Kent” moments;
1) The moment he decides to move on from his first love by his own choice.
2) His first flight
3) When he rips open his shirt to reveal the S (maybe in the series final if we're lucky)

I was excited to see 1). Actually the only reason I was excited about ‘Requiem’.
But, what I got here instead?

Clark Kent on his knees begging her to stay while Lana Lang makes her final decision yet again. All what I saw in this scene while I disgustingly shake my head was PS3’s big middle fingers with a loud voiceover,

”Screw you, you stupid Superman fans!!!”

..... I never felt so insulted as a Clark Kent/Superman fan. This sight literally broke my heart.

My favorite reviewer said he saw worse (an episode of ‘Friends’ he said) but my vote goes straight to ‘Requiem’ and ‘Power’ for the worst TV hours of my life. I even felt sorry for Tom Welling for playing this most pathetic version of Clark Kent (IMHO), especially after 7 and half years of acting this (usually) an iconic character. I thought I had seen enough of ‘Sad-crying’ Tom’s facial expression for all my lifetime. When he stars in movies in the future (and I sincerely hope very near future for his sake), I’d like to see him as a villain or a playboy or a deranged psychopath. Any roles which doesn’t reminds me of this Clark Kent.

I wanted to like Lana. I really did. I thought the writers would show us ‘strong and mature woman’ in a way her counterpart in the comics is right now. (She starts working as the editor of the Business section at DP) Lana in the comics finally seems to find a way to live her own life and be her own woman. And I’m happy for her. But this is Smallville, right? Maybe Lana exit as a mere human sounds too boring for these writers. And as a result, she goes out as someone impossible to root for. But that’s just me.

They surely wanted to show Clana ending as a *tragic love story* and try really hard to manipulate us but failed to do so miserably in my eyes. If I find one thing ‘tragic’ about this Clana ending, it was Lana who lost the very important thing to be with Clark Kent aka future Superman. Her humanity. It's ironic, more than anything else.

Also, I’m really disturbed by this ending scene for its implications. Lana was implying their relationship is merely a physical thing. This impression of mine would’ve been tone down if the opening scene of this episode was where Clark trying to help Lana adjusting her new super-powered suit etc, instead of showing them goes straight to have sex and broke the bed. I don’t understand why she had to leave if she really love the man.

Think about it. She could even cover up for his weakness against Kryptonite with the ability of her suit. All she had to do was to keep 20 feet distance from him, which I’m sure Clark was ready to do while they keep searching for a cure. But nope. She can’t sleep with the man so she had to leave him forever and ever. And of course as a result, ripping his heart out yet again for the gazillinth time. This for me is NOT love. And it was a truly disappointing exit for this character. JMO

But the worst part is that they didn’t give any closure of Clana which was desperately needed for the accomplishment of the series. This show is called ‘Smallville’. Lana Lang represents Smallville and boyhood of Clark Kent. If he can’t put behind this part of his life by his own choice, what is the show about his journey for? We didn’t need to see a Clark who is unable to move forward in his emotional life unless pushed by tragedy, NOT at this stage of his life anyway. They didn’t use this arc to serve Clark as a character, they didn’t use this opportunity to serve Clark taking another positive step towards his destiny (importantly) by his own choice. TPTB gave no benefit for Clark out of this arc, AT ALL.

I enjoy the *new interpretation*, but they shouldn’t change a fundamental story or the core of its characters, IMHO. Because if they do, then they don’t have a show about the Clark Kent anymore. He is suppose to stand for truth and justice and a man of volition, who often referred as ‘Will of Steel’. Do I see any of these essential qualities which defines Clark Kent in this man? My honest answer is NO.

If they wanted to tell us a story that, A) Clark and Lana as the star-crossed tragic lover, B) Lana becomes a superhero at the end, then by all means they CAN. This is their show after all and as long as DC/WB approves their take, why not to tell us a completely new interpretation of Superman Mythos, right? But if they knew this would be their goal, that they wouldn’t let Clark move on by his own free will until the last moment but forever sickly pining over his first love instead, then they shouldn’t have portrayed Lana SO flawed and a morally questionable character in the first place. Why oh why they made her do so many wrong things in the series, if she was the love of Clark Kent’s life? By making Clark so blindly obsessed with this woman makes him look 1oo times more pathetic. IMO

I’m not saying Lana had to be written as a perfect character. No. Nobody is perfect whether in the fictional story or in the real world. But what irritated me the most by watching SV is that the way Lana has been portrayed over the years makes me convince that she is NOT a woman who deserve the love of Clark Kent. If she was a sweet girl next door like in many other incarnations? Then, no problem. If she were Chloe ? Yes, definitely. (To me, Chloe is the iconic Lana Lang in SV verse)

The SV version of Clana made me see crystal clear that they make each other miserable but after 8 and half seasons, the reason they can’t be together is suddenly because of a Kryptonite ??? So what were those pain-in-a** , teen-angst-romance we had to sit though for? THAT didn’t lead us nowhere? THAT didn’t serve for characters development? So much for the *journey*, if they just all cop-out without any consequences nor influences to each character in the end. The story totally sucks.

I don’t know why PS3 thought Lana as-sacrificed–saint arc was more important than Clana proper-closure arc. Great decision if this show was called Lanaville. I guess they’re so busy buttkissing Lana and desperately redeem her in her last 5 episodes. You know what? Three seasons too late. What a shame.

▼Minus 96 out of 10.

These are points I gave for last 12 episodes. PS3 manage to annul everything what were good before ‘Power’ and ‘Requiem’, so I take it back. Last 2 episodes pretty much ruin the series for me. I still hope this show will recover from this deadly damage, but I don’t have faith in them any longer. My best wishes to Tom, though. He deserves to exit from this show on the high note. I hope he still will be able to.

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jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 10:27 AM

that was you calmed down ^^^ lol...i woulda hated to hear what you had to say a week ago! ;) lol j/p

Fallen One

02-12-2009, 10:39 AM

Way to rip that garbage, Tomo.

cma_454

02-12-2009, 11:39 AM

...Clark Kent on his knees begging her to stay while Lana Lang makes her final decision yet again. All what I saw in this scene while I disgustingly shake my head was PS3’s big middle fingers with a loud voiceover,

”Screw you, you stupid Superman fans!!!”

..... I never felt so insulted as a Clark Kent/Superman fan. This sight literally broke my heart...

I know how you feel.

It's as if they suckered the Superman fans in by using all the familiar names (Clark, Lex, Lana, Martha, Jonathan, Lois, etc.) and places (Smallville, Metropolis, Krypton), threw in a few characters with the names of DC villains and heroes, so we'd think this was Superman's early years. But, all too often, what we got was more Smallville 90210 than Superman.

... PS3 manage to annul everything what were good before ‘Power’ and ‘Requiem’, so I take it back. Last 2 episodes pretty much ruin the series for me. I still hope this show will recover from this deadly damage, but I don’t have faith in them any longer...

I was always able to overlook Smallville's teen soap elements, in the hope of seeing the developing Superman story (and they did give it to me, but only in small doses).

Then came Season 8, and suddenly what I'd waited for seemed to finally be happening. I was enjoying Smallville more than I had in its entire run.

But, with just two episodes, PS3 managed to bring me from my highest point (regarding Smallville), to (by far) my lowest.

Power and Requiem would have been bad in Season 7, or the start of 8. But coming when they did, they were catastrophic.

Can they recover? Certainly, but Power and Requiem make me doubt not only that they will, but that they even have a clue as to how.

bigblueplanet

02-12-2009, 02:24 PM

Way to rip that garbage, Tomo.

Thanks, Cedric. It means a lot coming from YOU!

It’s a first time I wrote for this thread other than feedbacks. Usually I just enjoy reading what other fans had to say. But this time, I had to come here & say it loud and clear how upset I am with what I’ve got.

I was still joking when ‘Power’ aired. Because I was sure PS3 turned that mess around in this ep. Boy, was I wrong. I realized you guys know much better what they’re capable of. lol The infamous “bait and switch”, right?
Honestly I don’t know if I can enjoy this show ever again. Time will tell I guess….. :\

By the way, thank you for your brilliant review. We could all use some ‘Laughter Therapy’ right now!

I know how you feel.

It's as if they suckered the Superman fans in by using all the familiar names (Clark, Lex, Lana, Martha, Jonathan, Lois, etc.) and places (Smallville, Metropolis, Krypton), threw in a few characters with the names of DC villains and heroes, so we'd think this was Superman's early years. But, all too often, what we got was more Smallville 90210 than Superman.

By your avi, I guess you’re L&C fan? Me too, although I didn’t watch the show at the time. I never really bought Dean’s Superman, but I fell in love with his Clark Kent. Their special effect looked cheap and the villains & plots were very often cheesy, but I never doubt whether or not this man is C.K. Not even once. I could always respect him and adore him.

But like you said, I wonder who this boy is sometimes. And I wish this boy named Clark Kent was a stranger. Someone who coincidentally has the same name as Superman and people around him also coincidentally has names familiar to us.

Then I can leave this show in peace without ever looking back. The only thing which holding me back is my blind love for Superman. And you know what? Actually PS3 is right. “Stupid Superman fans”, here I am. :\

I was always able to overlook Smallville's teen soap elements, in the hope of seeing the developing Superman story (and they did give it to me, but ony in small doses).

Then came Season 8, and suddenly what I'd waited for seemed to finally be happening. I was enjoying Smallville more than I had in its entire run.

But, with just two episodes, PS3 managed to bring me from my highest point (regarding Smallville), to (by far) my lowest.

Power and Requiem would have been bad in Season 7, or the start of 8. But coming when they did, they were catastrophic.

Can they recover? Certainly, but Power and Requiem make me doubt not only that they will, but that they even have a clue as to how.

I think these two eps looked still bad in S7, or any other seasons actually. The way I see it, it was absolutely necessary for this version of Clark Kent to open his eyes for once and for all and decide to walk away from her. All what I was hoping was a mature confrontation and these two to mutually part as good friends.

I can't imagine how everyone would've been excited right now, if they chose to show us this way.

Now, all I can say was they've done a serious damage. :(
I still haven’t recover from it Superman-fan-wise, because since then, I don’t feel like reading my monthly comics (I haven’t open my subscribed comics mail box), I don’t feel like watching any of my SV favorite scenes, I stop reading fanfic, too. Sure I’ll start reading comics again, but SV?
I don’t see this entire show in the same way anymore after these last 2 episodes. I just can't.

cma_454

02-12-2009, 03:47 PM

I don’t see this entire show in the same way anymore after these last 2 episodes. I just can't.

Same here. Right now, I can't watch the older episodes on HDNet (I was watching them regularly, prior to Power).

I hope I don't continue to feel this way. I hope PS3 find a way back from this.

I hope it, but don't really expect it. PS3 have really lost credibility with me.

ClLaLeChFAN01

02-12-2009, 04:26 PM

This episode and Power, I was very conflicted over and Im trying to make sense of my frustations!

Things that I disliked

It seemed that everyone was out of Character this episode

TThe bed Scene- I always close my eyes during those scenes. I dont know why but I cant watch it. Maybe becasue I see it as a private moment and I am a fly on the wall.

Oliver Queen- Does OQ/GA kill in the comics? Because if he does cross the line there then I may understand why he killed Lex in this episode.

FakeLex- This set me off! This made me go to bed and listened to the rest of the show. I can handle the body double, but the DARTHLEX! I wanted to throw my teleivision through the window! I think if Micheal R. would have done the episdoe with the DARTHLEX, I STILL WOULDNT LIKE IT! I would have been unhappy either way.

The Last Scene- I was hoping for a grown up Clark and Lana break up/ goodbye scene but that didnt happen. *sign*

I was okay with Lana marrying Lex, but when she recieved powers that was too much...I couldnt believe that she went there. I would think anything createdby Lex Luthor would be bad to use. It most certainly bit her in the butt because she has to stay away from Clark or she will kill him. Hopefully she will use her powers for good.....

Things that I was okay with

Turning Lana into a weapon or something that would kill Clark. She now has to stays away from Clark forever. NO MORE CLANA!!! That was a very nice twist and I wasnt expected it. I can breathe now!

Toyman- very good bad guy, I would like to see him back again.

Lex- he got his revenge against Clark and Lana. He said if he couldnt be happy then neither can they and he spat in their faces with a kryptonite boom. The essence of Lex was there in that episode.

Oliver and Chloe- I like their scenes together!

Clana- it was full circle and that is how it should be

My Hope

I hope that Clark wont have Lois be the rebound girl. However, I think Lois wont go down that road with Clark. She will give him space and a punch on the shoulder when he needs it.

I keep on telling myself that Lana is the bicycle that Clark was saving for. But when he breaks open that piggy bank he will realize that he was saving for a Harley which is really Lois.

In conclusion, I may like this episode in time but right now Im done with it. I cant wrap my head around it anymore.

NoSupeForYou

02-12-2009, 04:55 PM

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 05:07 PM

Now that I think about it, where did that alien DNA for the suit Lana stole come from. The two likely suspects are Clark or Bizzaro, with Bizzaro being the best choice because of the kryptonite absorption. Does that mean that at the beginning of Requiem Clark was basically having sex with Bizzaro? Ew.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.lol that thought has crossed a few of our minds...but lana did bizzaro suposedly so i gets its just fitting that clark does him too as lana...or w/e lol:eek:

SVrnFAN

02-12-2009, 05:44 PM

I am a little late to the party - just watched the show. I thought it was a great way to end the Clark and Lana aspect of the show. Being that these two characters were the main love story for the first seven years of the show - it was a perfect ending. TPTB wrote the episode with nods to the history of the show and the couple - the necklace, the late night meeting in the cemetery, and to have Clark and Lana end how we met them - him falling at her feet because of the krypton necklace to him falling at her feet because of the absorbed krypton, perfect circle.

I am no way a fan of Lana - liked her more when she was with Whitney, Jason and Lex then I did with Clark; however, TPTB respected Smallville canon and gave a great ending to one of the most important relationships in Smallville - more then I can say about the Clark and Lex relationship.

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 06:20 PM

I find very interesting the results of the poll.Reading the posts and threads of this episode seems that 90 per cent of the fans are dissapointed but if you take a look to the results the fact is that the most of the people enjoyed it.This shows us that we (active users of the board whom post opinions) are a very very small percentage of the fans and despite the recently smell like "they ruined the show" maybe the core of the fanbase are happy with it.Just a speculation.

BadToad

02-12-2009, 06:29 PM

I find very interesting the results of the poll.Reading the posts and threads of this episode seems that 90 per cent of the fans are dissapointed but if you take a look to the results the fact is that the most of the people enjoyed it.

I'm not quite sure how you're getting that result from this particular poll.

At best, I think you could say that the poll shows how polarizing the episode was.

As of this minute, you have more votes for worst then best. You have 307 votes at 4 or less, which would be the unfavorable side of things. You have 71 at 5 & 6, which seems fairly neutral. And you have 295 at 7 and higher.

And honestly, I know a lot of people here seem to want to put K-Site down, or act like its some sort of lunatic fringe of fandom, but I've visited a number of boards, some that vary very much in character and tone from K-Site, and I don't see any of them raving about the episode either. There's only one board that I'm sure thats happy. If there are other SV fandom boards out there (that aren't devoted to Lana or Clana) that are ridiculously thrilled with this episode, I haven't come across it yet. IMO

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 06:59 PM

I'm not quite sure how you're getting that result from this particular poll.

At best, I think you could say that the poll shows how polarizing the episode was.

As of this minute, you have more votes for worst then best. You have 307 votes at 4 or less, which would be the unfavorable side of things. You have 71 at 5 & 6, which seems fairly neutral. And you have 295 at 7 and higher.

And honestly, I know a lot of people here seem to want to put K-Site down, or act like its some sort of lunatic fringe of fandom, but I've visited a number of boards, some that vary very much in character and tone from K-Site, and I don't see any of them raving about the episode either. There's only one board that I'm sure thats happy. If there are other SV fandom boards out there (that aren't devoted to Lana or Clana) that are ridiculously thrilled with this episode, I haven't come across it yet. IMO

It´s easy , 4 or less negative , 5 and up positive , like doing a test . I think that people thought on that way when they voted . Also , to be fair, 10 and 1 should never count because of the subjectivity . That is my point of view.

I don´t think that people really want to put k-site down , maybe seems that because some posters are frustrated of entering here and find anger against the series everyday because of SV isn´t following the path they´d like . I understand the two sides , makes sense that the most of the people who writes want to share his frustration , not like people who are enjoying it because they are satisfied.

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cma_454

02-12-2009, 07:35 PM

It´s easy , 4 or less negative , 5 and up positive , like doing a test . I think that people thought on that way when they voted . Also , to be fair, 10 and 1 should never count because of the subjectivity . That is my point of view.
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Actually, considering how high most people rate episodes here, a case could be made for viewing 6 or below as negative. But, since that could cause a credibility issue, I’d be more inclined to consider 5 and below negative and 6 and above positive. You know; top half good, bottom half bad.

Dividing the results 60/40 and ignoring the top and bottom (both of which support your viewpoint) is likely not the most credible of methodologies. Also, excluding ones and tens, ”because of the subjectivity,” makes no sense (in what is a totally subjective poll). “Loved it? Hated it?” doesn’t really seem like a call for objectivity.

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 07:40 PM

1 and 10 dont count? :S 1 and 10 is a good majority of the poll...

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Actually, considering how high most people rate episodes here, a case could be made for viewing 6 or below as negative. But, since that could cause a credibility issue, I’d be more inclined to consider 5 and below negative and 6 and above positive. You know; top half good, bottom half bad.

Dividing the results 60/40 and ignoring the top and bottom (both of which support your viewpoint) is likely not the most credible of methodologies. Also, excluding ones and tens, ”because of the subjectivity,” makes no sense (in what is a totally subjective poll). “Loved it? Hated it?” doesn’t really seem like a call for objectivity.

Agree on putting 5 or low as negative instead of 4.
I still have faith in the objectivity of the 2-9 range.

cma_454

02-12-2009, 07:56 PM

Agree on putting 5 or low as negative instead of 4.
I still have faith in the objectivity of the 2-9 range.

I still fail to see where objectivity applies at all.

The title of this poll isn't 'Is 'Requiem' a good episode?', it's "Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of 'Requiem'?"

What could be more subjective than love and hate?

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 08:13 PM

well i gave it a 10...so my vote doesnt matter?

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 08:21 PM

well i gave it a 10...so my vote doesnt matter?

Sure , I like it very much too and the first impulse was to give it a 10.But thinking of it I realized that it doesn´t deserve a 10 only because I liked what happened.There are a lot more things to analyze on the episode.

Maybe it´s my fault to see this poll as an objective one.

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 08:27 PM

but i would still give it a 10 and ive had a week to think about it...

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 08:36 PM

but i would still give it a 10 and ive had a week to think about it...

It means that we have almost the same feeling about the episode.;)

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 08:51 PM

It means that we have almost the same feeling about the episode.;)
wat did you give it?

Jor-Fer

02-12-2009, 09:09 PM

9 Because I found forced Lex´s scene , I think that Clark and Lana could find a way to remove the bomb without exposing Lana but was necesary an excuse to separate them.Also after so many chapters without Lex I expected more quality on his plot.

jjsmallvillelvr

02-12-2009, 09:27 PM

lol ok

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lex vader was stupid, but i wouldnt take the episode down a point for it.

La Donna

02-12-2009, 11:55 PM

The thing is that this is a tv show where people have different expectations and emotions following their viewing. You can't discount every single person who voted 1 or 10 by simply lumping them into unreasonable haters or unreasonable fanatics. It doesn't work that way, especially if you'd read through this thread. You would see many people who voted a 1 or a 10 and explained their reasoning leaving the character hate out of it. The fact that this episode was so polarizing, more than any other episode to my knowledge, should indicate the fact that there is a wide spectrum of viewers who felt the episode failed on all counts just as their was a wide spectrum of viewers who felt the episode was a glorious ending for Lana Lang.

If this was about Lana hate and that's why the episode received so many 1 votes, then you should have expected to see episode 12 and 13 receive the exact same number of votes. That didn't happen. If this was about Lana love and that's why the episode received so many 10 votes, then you should have expected to see the exact same amount for episodes 12 and 13. I think if so many viewers, who belong to many different fan groups of different characters, felt this episode failed, then the writers should consider this a failure, even if there were a number of viewers who were from different fan groups who felt the episode was perfect. A show should never be this polarizing or seemingly cater to a fan group. The goal of an episode should be to receive high marks by all fans, so when a huge number of people go the opposite route, there's a problem.

No.1 fan

02-13-2009, 05:10 AM

Terrible. I gave it a 3, and that was kind.

Agreed 8th Episode in and he's still a BOY lol where's this going to go the show is kinda dying and i dont normally post but with all the episode breaks it could quite honestly kill the show IMO. There's some emotional people watching this Sad ? lmao got to be kidding dying is sad :\

Smokethatkryptonite

02-13-2009, 11:20 AM

I gave it a one worse episode yet. They finally ended the Clana relationship in the stupidest way possible. Clark will never properly move on from Lana even in the future as Superman when he's with Lois he always would rather have Lana in this version. I'm just about to give up on Smallville now.

sarcami

02-13-2009, 02:51 PM

A part of me believe that they got KK to promise to come back and that's why they ended things on this note. I guess that they will always love Lana more than Clark on this show

MetropolisGirl4SV

02-13-2009, 06:07 PM

alejandrita439

02-15-2009, 11:34 AM

I guess that they will always love Lana more than Clark on this show

thats sad :/

doubtless

02-15-2009, 01:08 PM

It was sad, though i am not a clana fan. Risk a relationship save a lot of people.

Starfire

02-16-2009, 12:04 PM

I think giving Lana super powers was ott. Surely there were other ways to give her a decent send-off without doing that.

Then they made Green Arrow and Chloe murderers which is unforgivable.

sweetcalibraturbo

02-16-2009, 03:54 PM

I think the episode was **** and put it this ways I didint even know it was the season end!

Oh and no ways do I think Lex is dead, there is no smallville without Lex, I think he mite of been replaced by Oliver.

Stil things seem to amaze me how stupid Clark is I mean with his super powers you must needa a super fast brain so by now you think he would have some intelligence to mtch his powers, I mean ok other things aside if he wants to save the world doesnt he know knowledge is power if I were clark I would be so intelligent, read about everything in the worl in one night! lol

Also his thinking is so slow he gets caught doing things going places when it takes him a split second to scan around for god knows how far and hear from distance, he can zoom into your heart or listen to ur heart beat and body temperature to see if your lying or not how hard isit being him? come on.

He has all this power his so stupidly slow thinking and trusting and I know itd make a bad series I know you all know if we were clark we would of killed Lex by now , or at least locked him up!

OK Back to Lex not being dead, clrak has super hearing, super fast speeds thinking as well to match it, when the explosion started am I not rite saying clark would of had enough time to hear the explosion coming and run in and save lex, or even scan it to see who was inside it, rather than standing outside arguing with lana.

I dont think Lex is dead, 100%!

It always amazes me how stupid and slow Clark is.

Yeh one thing if he was so close to Lionel why didint he inherit anythign from him? lol

SuperFan66

02-17-2009, 12:25 PM

Lana is gone but will Clark finally grow a pair. I'm ready to see him fly and I'll be done with show. Been waiting 8 seasons for that.

Jedimaster_TTBaby

02-17-2009, 12:35 PM

well it was better than power.....

KneelBeforeZod!

02-17-2009, 01:04 PM

the thing about Power and Requiem is that the writing was unrealistic. Here we clearly have a deranged person (Lana) who thinks the way to deal with feeling helpless is to gain superpowers rather than getting therapy (HUMAN INTERACTION), talking her fears out, confronting them, and as a HUMAN BEING, loving herself and taking control of her life has much as is HUMANLY possible.

She clearly paid the price for her hubris-filled, over-the-top ambitions by losing the one thing that mattered most to her - Clark. She both emotionally and physically hurt him because of her inability to love herself as she is.

Lana's problem, ultimately, is that she feels inadequate. She is not comfortable in her own skin.

But by speechifying both Tess and Clark in Power and Requiem (with NO CONTRITION WHATSOVER ABOUT HER PAST AND RECENT ACTIONS) about not being a victim anymore and saving the world, the writers tried to too hard to cover up the flaws in her character.

I would have respected her more if she could have just come down from her delusional pedestal for a minute or two and admit that she has cheated, lied, manipulated, stole, murdered (though not intentionally) and that her theft of the power suit was ultimately a mistake.

I, as a fellow female fan, I really don't NEED to see a girl kicking *ss and taking names. I just want a truthful portrayal of a character. No one is perfect. Lana Lang definitely was not. But had she owned up to her faults AND THEN decided that she would not stay down, but rise to this new challenge and help the world, I really would have respected her more.

Isaac91

02-18-2009, 07:21 AM

this episode was one of the best i have seen in the last few seasons.
it was GREAT.

jjsmallvillelvr

02-18-2009, 07:22 AM

Lana's problem, ultimately, is that she feels inadequate. She is not comfortable in her own skin.
so she stole sumone elses!!! hehe!:lol:

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this episode was one of the best i have seen in the last few seasons.
it was GREAT.
r u a clana fan? (clanian)

XURON LORD OF ALMARAC

02-20-2009, 02:17 PM

loved it because it has a happy ending for lex

disciples of zod

02-20-2009, 02:19 PM

WAY better than the upset of Power.

~H

jjsmallvillelvr

02-21-2009, 12:45 AM

loved it because it has a happy ending for lexhe got blown up! u have a funny defination of happy...

dimeo782002

02-21-2009, 08:47 AM

he got blown up! u have a funny defination of happy...

:rotfl::lol: agreed! maybe they met happy because now lana and clark will 4 ever be apart ??? but his happiness was short lived by what 2 second s LMAO ! but we all know thats not lex i don't think they would screw the mythos that bad.

cma_454

02-21-2009, 10:27 AM

:rotfl::lol: agreed! maybe they met happy because now lana and clark will 4 ever be apart ??? but his happiness was short lived by what 2 second s LMAO ! but we all know thats not lex i don't think they would screw the mythos that bad.

I agree that Lex is not likely to really be dead.

As to how bad they'd screw the mythos, I'd have to say (after 'Power' and 'Requiem') there seems to be no limit.

dimeo782002

02-21-2009, 02:55 PM

I agree that Lex is not likely to really be dead.

As to how bad they'd screw the mythos, I'd have to say (after 'Power' and 'Requiem') there seems to be no limit.

this is very true , i guess its all open for alteration wether us fans like it or not. but a dead lex makes me angry.

LuthorKent90

02-21-2009, 03:28 PM

I gave it an 8 because the REAL Lex Luthor wasn't in it. ;)

I thought Kristin and Tom did phenomenal jobs. And Tom actually looked interested in his scenes. (Unless most of season 8)

jjsmallvillelvr

02-21-2009, 07:41 PM

this is very true , i guess its all open for alteration wether us fans like it or not. but a dead lex makes me angry.
i would have to agree that lex probably is dead...he can't be...he has to be supes enemy!

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ok well i picked the wrong quote...lol technically wat i agreed to wasnt in ur quote lol it was in the quote that you quoted. lol

LuthorKent90

02-21-2009, 10:36 PM

How can anyone believe Lex is dead? Why would Lex be sitting in a truck in the middle of no where? It makes no sense. He's not an imbecile.
Oliver is too sickly pleased to see straight at the moment. :lol:

jjsmallvillelvr

02-22-2009, 12:09 AM

yea lex is probably in the tropics or something! hes already burned so the sun wont matter!

Supermeng!

02-25-2009, 10:52 AM

yea lex is probably in the tropics or something! hes already burned so the sun wont matter!

This is true Lex is too smart for that.. I believed the clips they showed of him hooked up with all those tubes around him were really of lex.. but i dont believe he was in a truck in the city.. NOT LIKELY!! Who knows maybe it really was lex, but you never know.. maybe they are trying to introduce the clone version of lex, but if they do that then wow.. it would be a little early for that.. Don't believe me? Read The Life and Death of Superman.. great book..

-SuperMeng!

berniepooh

03-02-2009, 10:46 AM

Wow...lots of comments to scroll through, so if this has already been mentioned, my apologies, but...

Was anyone else creeped out that our own Mr. Kent was willing to sleep with someone who was NOT wearing their own skin, but fake skin developed by harvesting alien DNA? Hello???!!!!! Silence of the Lambs anyone?

I don't know...but if it was me, and my girlfriend was wearing a skin suit made from alien DNA, I'd be like "you know, I'd really like to, but I just ate lunch, so I'll take a pass":rotfl:

YEAH!! Good point. Everything about Lana from season 4 onward has been pretty creepy...but the suit was the real capper!

Snowfire

03-08-2009, 02:39 PM

berniepooh

03-10-2009, 01:04 PM

To point being quoted above, why would Clark care if she's wearing an alien-enhance nannite suit when he is as alien. She is still human and people aren't going crazy about that?! [mod edit] Clark loves Lana no matter what just like Lana loves Clark no matter what.

Unconditional love is one thing, and yes it is an admirable trait. But embracing your loved one's every action, even when it is immoral or unethical is quite another. An example. If your child is accused of murder and placed on trial for that crime, unconditional love would lead you to stand beside them through the legal proceedings and give them whatever moral and emotional support you could. That would include encouraging them to ask forgiveness of the victim's family if they are indeed guilty of the crime. It does not include being proud of or approving of their actions if they are guilty. You do NOT love some one because they committed murder, rather you continue to love them is spite of their heinous behavior and do your best to lead them back to the light.

On far too many occasions Lana's behavior could best be described as "depraved indifference". She is not, and has not been for several seasons, a moral woman. That is why Clark's allegiance and attraction to her is disturbing at best and at worst borders on psychological brainwashing, akin to Charles Manson's followers defending him "no matter what the consequences". Lana's character lacks a rudimentary sense of propriety, or accountability for the repercussions of her actions.

If you are familiar with the movie "Gladiator" think about the scene where Marcus Aurelius explains to Maximus that because he does not seek power or ultimate authority (the Roman equivilant to "invulnerability") over the Roman Empire he and he alone is fit to be entrusted with returning the empire to a Republican government. This is also the scene where he explains to Maximus that Commodus, with his great desire for power is "not a moral man", and that is why he cannot become Ceasur.

Lana Lang has LUSTED after power and invulnerability for three seasons. Clark Kent's unswerving allegiance to her every decision is frightening and does not honor the character of Superman.

Snowfire

03-10-2009, 07:41 PM

Unconditional love is one thing, and yes it is an admirable trait. But embracing your loved one's every action, even when it is immoral or unethical is quite another. An example. If your child is accused of murder and placed on trial for that crime, unconditional love would lead you to stand beside them through the legal proceedings and give them whatever moral and emotional support you could. That would include encouraging them to ask forgiveness of the victim's family if they are indeed guilty of the crime. It does not include being proud of or approving of their actions if they are guilty. You do NOT love some one because they committed murder, rather you continue to love them is spite of their heinous behavior and do your best to lead them back to the light.

What's with anti-Clana people aways using farfetched and irrelevant real life examples that don't come close to the reality of who Lana and Clark are and what they're relationship has experienced. Lana is no where near the demon everyone paints her out to be because she has suffered so much at the hands of Lex and Lionel. And Clark aint no angel himself because he has acted on many occasions just as out of control, self righteous and selfish as Lana has been depicted. Red, Precipice, Exodus, Exile, Crimson are just some of the episodes that have demonstated Clark's dark side.

On far too many occasions Lana's behavior could best be described as "depraved indifference". She is not, and has not been for several seasons, a moral woman. That is why Clark's allegiance and attraction to her is disturbing at best and at worst borders on psychological brainwashing, akin to Charles Manson's followers defending him "no matter what the consequences". Lana's character lacks a rudimentary sense of propriety, or accountability for the repercussions of her actions.

I'm not even going to try to make sense of your extreme example in this one.

But I will entertain the idea of morality on this show, since every character's actions have blurred the lines and they continue to face those challenges as the story goes on. Clark and Ollie especially can both be seen as vigilantes, acting above the law and punishing those who they view as evil/wrong in their actions. Chloe is cyber pirate and has stuck her nose in so many people's business she knows everyone's secrets and has lie to everyone. And then we have Lois, who has so many vices and dysfuntions that she shouldn't be view as anyone role model. Yet Lana's reactions to the abuses inflicted on are blown out of proportions to further villify her.

It's funny how easily people forget to mention how Clark pushed her away into Lex's little web of lies and after all the abuse she suffered though because of him and his father, she had more than enough reason to want retribution. She went after Lionel because he knew Clark's secret/weakness (no one told her he was Jor-El's emmisary) so she saved him from the dam and kept him alive and captive. She did nothing to Lionel other than hiring that crazy lady to look after him. And when she went after Lex she just rough him up like Clark has done to countless others. If she never had been pushed and powered up then she would have never gone to such length to punish Lex. She was fighting fire with fire, as only she knew how, but Clark brought her back from that precipice and she learned from her mistakes. Lana's enlightenment in Power and Requiem proved that.

Lana Lang has LUSTED after power and invulnerability for three seasons. Clark Kent's unswerving allegiance to her every decision is frightening and does not honor the character of Superman.

Lana has only ever lusted after Clark. She may have been seduced by Lex's honest and sympathy but she never actively or overtly desired power. Wrath she was accidently given Clark's powers and in her hurt state she went after the one man she could finally hurt back. And in Power she empowered herself after years of being a victim. The power suit only came into play when Lana had to prevent it from being used by Lex or someone like him and being a threat to Clark. If she didn't take it who would you have prefered have it? Lex? Tess? Lois?! With Lana the power suit will be used as a weapon for good not bad. The Legion even alluded to that.

And if you're looking for Superman, you're not going to find him on Smallville.

berniepooh

03-11-2009, 11:36 AM

I would prefer no one had such a suit. A truly ethical and strongly moral person would have destroyed the suit. Did you happen to catch the end scene of The Dark Knight ? Morgan Freeman's character (Lucius Fox) agrees to help Batman with the super listening technology only once-to stop The Joker. Then he destroys it because he knows no one person (human) can be trusted with that much power. They would be corrupted by it, no doubt.

Superman can control himself for two reasons. One, he is a Kryptonian and by nature is different than us. Two, he was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent who trained him well to recognize what was wrong each time he crossed the line. And, thank you for providing the examples of when that happened. The audience had the benefit of hearing every morality lecture Clark got. The big difference between Clark and Lana's upbringing is Jonathan and Martha always gave him a stern lecture to ensure Clark learned from his mistakes and would not repeat them.
Lana's Aunt Nell told her to "do whatever you need to" on the day of her wedding to LL. Lana never developed the sense of morality and decency instilled in Clark by the Kents. Again, I say his attraction to her is disturbing.

Snowfire

03-11-2009, 07:52 PM

Lana has learned so much from Clark because he's the one person in her life who has loved her unconditionally and unendingly, and his example is what she wants to live up to. He's always been her hero, now it's Lana's turn to be his hero. If she could survive all the fire that forged her into the person she became in Power, than she is truely deserving of Clark's love. Her becoming super is as natural as him becoming super. They shared everything together, why would this be any different? Their love has never been normal, that's makes them so exceptional.

jjsmallvillelvr

03-12-2009, 12:27 AM

maybe lana got pregnant and will come back with a lil krypto baby and clark will marry her and live happily ever after! ;)

berniepooh

03-12-2009, 11:27 AM

maybe lana got pregnant and will come back with a lil krypto baby and clark will marry her and live happily ever after! ;)

Ohhhhhh. Perish the thought! A "lil krypto baby"? With her absorbing that much kryptonite, even with a second skin "suit" as a buffer, the kryptonite would have an adverse effect on the embryo and it would no doubt become another Doomsday.

What are you proposing? An episode entitled "Oedipus Clark" - Superman's baby is destined to kill his father and fall in love with his mother? NO, no, no, no, no!!! The more we linger on Lana, the creepier it gets. Lana's character needs to be reassigned to Supernatural. Maybe she can fall in love with Dean and they can have a couple of exchanges dealing with feeling of Deja vu before both are sent to hell. That could be amusing, and Jason always was Lana's best boyfriend. He wasn't afraid to say "No" to her when she needed it.

SupermanRox

03-12-2009, 11:38 AM

I hated it! Plain and simple

keddy22

03-12-2009, 10:32 PM

Didn't like it. Next episode, Clark tells Lois his secret. WTF is that? Then, 2 weeks afterwards, he's staring lovingly into Lois' eyes (except that Chloe is in there somewhere). HTF does that happen?

Wrong ending for Requiem. It was well-acted but over melodramatic. It should have been a clean break. I guess if 3 weeks later in SV time, he's looking lovingly into Lois' eyes, Lana couldn't mean that much to him.

One fact is true, Lana is kryptonite to Clark - it's why he acts the way he does when he is around her.

The best part: the end - it's a new day in Smallville.

You got me laughing with your comments!

That is so true, I was kinda wondering the same thing. How does a guy come back from something like that? That was pretty hard to watch, quite the painful thing for anyone to go through. Yet, people go through bad break ups and these same people do wind up falling in love again. Perhaps a little more wiser, but not any less loving.

Lana served a great purpose - by being his first love, she helped show Clark what relationships are all about (and not about). She taught him what works and what doesn't work. The helpful things versus the not so helpful things to say or do in a relationship. She took on all of the battles that first lovers have and Clark is a better man for it. Thank you, Lana, for doing that.. I hope you will find a purpose in life all your own, one that is most fulfilling, and that some day you will find someone who not only gets you, loves you whole-heartedly, but accepts you for who you are!

By the way, I'm a huge Lois Lane fan... always have been (since my first viewing of Superman the movie). Always will.:)

pbush77

03-13-2009, 02:26 AM

You know, I think they just "killed off" Lex so they could concentrate on Doomsday for the end of the season. Let's face it, having Lex so involved was okay for half the season because him just disappearing after 7 years and never being referred to would have been strange, to say the least (the same was true with the Lana plot, too)... but they don't want "unfilmable" Lex to remain the focus while they ramp up the Doomsday plot.

He'll be back. :rolleyes:

onio

03-27-2009, 07:53 PM

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL ROSENBAUM, he must not die in that way, he was one of the best characters of Smallville
bad producers
bad producers

emc3015

04-02-2009, 11:44 AM

What's with anti-Clana people aways using farfetched and irrelevant real life examples that don't come close to the reality of who Lana and Clark are and what they're relationship has experienced. Lana is no where near the demon everyone paints her out to be because she has suffered so much at the hands of Lex and Lionel. And Clark aint no angel himself because he has acted on many occasions just as out of control, self righteous and selfish as Lana has been depicted. Red, Precipice, Exodus, Exile, Crimson are just some of the episodes that have demonstated Clark's dark side.

I'm not even going to try to make sense of your extreme example in this one.

But I will entertain the idea of morality on this show, since every character's actions have blurred the lines and they continue to face those challenges as the story goes on. Clark and Ollie especially can both be seen as vigilantes, acting above the law and punishing those who they view as evil/wrong in their actions. Chloe is cyber pirate and has stuck her nose in so many people's business she knows everyone's secrets and has lie to everyone. And then we have Lois, who has so many vices and dysfuntions that she shouldn't be view as anyone role model. Yet Lana's reactions to the abuses inflicted on are blown out of proportions to further villify her.

It's funny how easily people forget to mention how Clark pushed her away into Lex's little web of lies and after all the abuse she suffered though because of him and his father, she had more than enough reason to want retribution. She went after Lionel because he knew Clark's secret/weakness (no one told her he was Jor-El's emmisary) so she saved him from the dam and kept him alive and captive. She did nothing to Lionel other than hiring that crazy lady to look after him. And when she went after Lex she just rough him up like Clark has done to countless others. If she never had been pushed and powered up then she would have never gone to such length to punish Lex. She was fighting fire with fire, as only she knew how, but Clark brought her back from that precipice and she learned from her mistakes. Lana's enlightenment in Power and Requiem proved that.

Lana has only ever lusted after Clark. She may have been seduced by Lex's honest and sympathy but she never actively or overtly desired power. Wrath she was accidently given Clark's powers and in her hurt state she went after the one man she could finally hurt back. And in Power she empowered herself after years of being a victim. The power suit only came into play when Lana had to prevent it from being used by Lex or someone like him and being a threat to Clark. If she didn't take it who would you have prefered have it? Lex? Tess? Lois?! With Lana the power suit will be used as a weapon for good not bad. The Legion even alluded to that.

And if you're looking for Superman, you're not going to find him on Smallville.

Snowfire, you are awesome!
It does not matter who Clark ends up with now. It will be only by default. HeeHeeHee. Love it!

bizzaroboy9

04-07-2009, 11:25 PM

i rewatched it and i felt like i was biased when i first gave my opinion and giving it a 3. after watching it again, i enjoyed it more and i think it was a very well done episode. this episode go into my top 25 episodes list. the ending was beautiful and the chemistry between TW and KK was amazing. it was so sad. i thought it was a perfect sendoff for Lana and i do hope to see her in the series finale. she was a big part of smallville for 8 years, that can't be denied. i respect the move PS3 made and i think to me it worked out good. so therefore i give it a 9.

Mickey_Bickey

04-10-2009, 06:19 AM

myankskent

04-10-2009, 07:00 AM

They're probably airing "Requiem" because it's the next episode that they have to show a repeat of. During the holidays, the CW started airing the first part of the season again and between that and the repeats that they had following the Clana arc, they're probably up to "Requiem" now. The whole point is to air every episode again so that people who missed it the first time around have a chance to see it.

berniepooh

04-13-2009, 10:55 AM

LoveHurts38

04-13-2009, 01:20 PM

^^That's why will not watch it again..... like I did when it aired the 1st time.

Snowfire

04-13-2009, 01:36 PM

So, here's the Garbage Part 2. I honestly am perplexed why the CW would air this before the final arc. I guess they don't want good ratings. This was absoulutely the worst episode along with Power (go hand in hand in my book) to ever be aired in the history of this series. I still cringe at the thought of TW dragging himself like a mummy across the floor and grotesquely kissing Lana. Atrocious.

Well, in my opinion here comes the Masterpiece, Part 2. I think the CW are so clever to air this episode right before the final arc of the season and to remind people the most important thing to have happened to Clark this season. It was clearly the best episode along with Power, to bring a poetically ironic end to Clark and Lana's current relationship. I still marvel at how Clark put himself through such pain and torment to kiss the love of his life one more time. That kiss is one that no ove will ever forget and was beautifully bittersweet. Just like Clana have been for 8 years. :D

Selina

04-13-2009, 01:49 PM

Hated it, just hated it.

I am a SV fanatic and will gladly watch any episode again on repeat. Power and Requiem just made thier debut here in the UK last week. However having already downloaded the episodes as soon as it was aired in the US, I made the concious decision to turn the other way. I vow to never see either of those episodes again, and I mean that.

The episodes basically undid the journey of Clark Kent over the season and really regressed his character. Not only that, Lana becoming superpowered was ridiculous to say the least. It was obvious that the writers wanted to give her the big heroic send of. However, I feel thier Lana love blinded thier better judgement. Big character, yes. Right send of, hell no.

The writers are going to have to work really hard to redeam that shamble of an episode but I wont hold my breath.

suzieQ

04-16-2009, 02:52 PM

Requiem is on repeat tonight.

I disagree with Kelly Souders, Kryptonite is not a symbol of why Clark and Lana are not together ....it is THE reason why Clark and Lana are apart. It was a contrivance, a mechanism that they are apart. If Lana had not become a REAL HERO and absorbed the Green K, Clark would be dead and Metropolis would have suffered casualties. Lex would of seen to it that Lana and Clark would be separated somehow.

Well, in my opinion here comes the Masterpiece, Part 2. I think the CW are so clever to air this episode right before the final arc of the season and to remind people the most important thing to have happened to Clark this season. It was clearly the best episode along with Power, to bring a poetically ironic end to Clark and Lana's current relationship. I still marvel at how Clark put himself through such pain and torment to kiss the love of his life one more time. That kiss is one that no ove will ever forget and was beautifully bittersweet. Just like Clana have been for 8 years.

I don't know if the CW is clever or not, but showing this episode before the next new episode of SV, shows Lana as someone who risked her own happiness for the greater good...a Hero able to make an unselfish decision .......not to make advance a career, or manipulate a situation for personal benefit. Lana had the Love and attention of her HERO. Requiem is like a literary tragedy.........it leaves me to wonder , "what could have been".......Clark and Lana finally together, in love with a promising future. Lex as their nemesis, destroys their happiness. It is so sad........the last scene still causes me tears.....but their 'I love you's" are so heartfelt and emotional and their last kiss is beautiful. It was Powerful!

ChlarkerFan

04-16-2009, 02:58 PM

Requiem is on repeat tonight.

I disagree with Kelly Souders, Kryptonite is not a symbol of why Clark and Lana are not together ....it is THE reason why Clark and Lana are apart. It was a contrivance, a mechanism that they are apart. If Lana had not become a REAL HERO and absorbed the Green K, Clark would be dead and Metropolis would have suffered casualties. Lex would of seen to it that Lana and Clark would be separated somehow.

Whatever the reason, Clark and Lana's destiny (in any Superman incarnation) has never be to be with each other. Period. And this series, even though it was all about Clana for so many years, couldn't change that. So in a way, even though I hated the Lana arc, I'm glad that we still got that. Because even though Clana were still in love with each other, they realized that love isn't always enough to make relationships work or keep them together. And that's actually very true in real life. Love isn't everything as romantics like to believe. It's a big part yes, but not everything. And in this case, when destiny is NOT on your side, you're not gonna get very far. lol So after 8 years of going back and forth and back and forth, they ended up back to square one, and although I found that pretty pathetic, I have to admit that because of it's heavy irony it was perfect in a way. The clana fandom got to know that they would always love each other, and the rest of us got to know that their love would never be enough and they would never be together.

suzieQ

04-16-2009, 04:08 PM

Whatever the reason, Clark and Lana's destiny (in any Superman incarnation) has never be to be with each other. Period. And this series, even though it was all about Clana for so many years, couldn't change that. So in a way, even though I hated the Lana arc, I'm glad that we still got that. Because even though Clana were still in love with each other, they realized that love isn't always enough to make relationships work or keep them together. And that's actually very true in real life. Love isn't everything as romantics like to believe. It's a big part yes, but not everything. And in this case, when destiny is NOT on your side, you're not gonna get very far. lol So after 8 years of going back and forth and back and forth, they ended up back to square one, and although I found that pretty pathetic, I have to admit that because of it's heavy irony it was perfect in a way. The clana fandom got to know that they would always love each other, and the rest of us got to know that their love would never be enough and they would never be together.

I agree with some of the things you said, however, what was shown in Requiem was that yes, Clark and Lana still love each other but it didn't show that "their love would never be enough." In the episode Lana said to Clark in the kitchen, as he was putting on her necklace, "something always got in our way" (between them.... to keep them apart). Clark says that they are together now and nothing will keep them apart. Yet, it wasn't that their love wasn't strong enough it was that "something or someone" did something to physically tear them apart. After all the things that they went through, Clark and Lana found their way back to each other,......their love endured. The writers could have ended it all differently but they didn't ......they left Clark and Lana still in love with each other........forced apart.

Now,.....of course, the Superman History shows that Clark and Lois get together but what Smallville has taught us, never say never. So....from my Clana perspective, Clark and Lana became a love story that rivals all great love stories,......the story is not over for them and the writers left that open for a reason.

Snowfire

04-18-2009, 11:54 AM

I agree with some of the things you said, however, what was shown in Requiem was that yes, Clark and Lana still love each other but it didn't show that "their love would never be enough." In the episode Lana said to Clark in the kitchen, as he was putting on her necklace, "something always got in our way" (between them.... to keep them apart). Clark says that they are together now and nothing will keep them apart. Yet, it wasn't that their love wasn't strong enough it was that "something or someone" did something to physically tear them apart. After all the things that they went through, Clark and Lana found their way back to each other,......their love endured. The writers could have ended it all differently but they didn't ......they left Clark and Lana still in love with each other........forced apart.

Now,.....of course, the Superman History shows that Clark and Lois get together but what Smallville has taught us, never say never. So....from my Clana perspective, Clark and Lana became a love story that rivals all great love stories,......the story is not over for them and the writers left that open for a reason.

Right on Suzie! Smallville will always be about Clana not Clois or Clex or Lexana or any other relationship. Clana gave this show a heartbeat to survive as long as it has. Without it this show is on borrowed time and it's artificial heart can't give this story the love and passion and beauty that Clark and Lana gave it.

suzieQ

04-18-2009, 04:21 PM

Clana gave this show a heartbeat ........

I love this....may I use this and quote you? ;)

And yes, this show has lost its heart!

Mickey_Bickey

04-19-2009, 09:58 AM

This show was garbage! Plain and simple.

Kelly Souders words were concise and on the mark! At the very least it is now well known that they had no intention of forcing them together! Obviously, Clark's character looked like a boob because of it, but hey it's over, he's falling in love with Lois Lane, and that's all that matters!

Thanks CW for making Clark move on swiftly to Lois and continuing blossoming their legendary love affair! So glad that Clark is now looking forward and not over his shoulder!!:D

The only heartbeat that this show ever got from Lana was Bradycardia! LOL!

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^^That's why will not watch it again..... like I did when it aired the 1st time.

Horrendous, wasn't it? It seems like ages ago now thank goodness!!;) Thankfully, it didn't take Clark anytime to start falling in love with Lois Lane and get back on track with no moping or hardly a mention of Lana!:D

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Hated it, just hated it.

I am a SV fanatic and will gladly watch any episode again on repeat. Power and Requiem just made thier debut here in the UK last week. However having already downloaded the episodes as soon as it was aired in the US, I made the concious decision to turn the other way. I vow to never see either of those episodes again, and I mean that.

I'm the same way. I deleted both of those episodes off my DVR after they aired! They so ridiculous and laughable! What a terrible ending for Lana Lang's character! She should have gotten a decent send off after all those years of being on the show. Now, she'll only be remembered by these ludicrous episodes!

The episodes basically undid the journey of Clark Kent over the season and really regressed his character. Not only that, Lana becoming superpowered was ridiculous to say the least. It was obvious that the writers wanted to give her the big heroic send of. However, I feel thier Lana love blinded thier better judgement. Big character, yes. Right send of, hell no.

It was regression, and it was my biggest fear for these episodes going into them. How badly the regressed him even shocked me! Thankfully though Clark's character was over her right away and back on track within the next episode! Just a speed bump in an other wise smooth road!

The writers are going to have to work really hard to redeam that shamble of an episode but I wont hold my breath.

I'm long passed it as is Clark's character apparently! He's now falling in love with Lois Lane, and the series continued in Infamous from where it left off in Bride!

shy175223

04-19-2009, 10:33 AM

don't start a shipper war.

Mickey_Bickey

04-19-2009, 03:54 PM

YEAH! What U said. Ditto!!!!

Close to 30% percent of the people on this pole agree, and if you count the 2's and 3's it's over 40%! Just terrible! I hope the writers never torment the viewers again with any further nonsense involving Clark's character.

suzieQ

04-19-2009, 05:43 PM

IF you add the numbers to this date:

5 - Worst = 372 votes

5 - Best = 394 votes

So....actually more people thought the episode was above the average and liked it!

I am amazed in the number of votes........

I loved this episode.......one of five that I will probably watch again and again from this season. I thought the writers put a lot of thought into the Bride to Requiem arc.....it was full of characters, action and plot. I especially liked Bulletproof and Clark working with the average person and going undercover. Requiem was the Big Three (fake MR) one last time........it leaves the door open to other story possibilities should they return. It will never be over between these three, Clark , Lana and Lex.............the series should end with them as well.

Mickey_Bickey

04-19-2009, 06:36 PM

IF you add the numbers to this date:

5 - Worst = 372 votes

5 - Best = 394 votes

So....actually more people thought the episode was above the average and liked it.

I don't know how you're getting those numbers, but I'm going by the numbers as indicated above. Most of the posts that I've read in this thread support the above numbers as well as being the worst along with Power.

NinaDavis

04-19-2009, 07:01 PM

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1-5 = 372

1-10= 355

supes0

04-19-2009, 07:06 PM

I don't know how you're getting those numbers, but I'm going by the numbers as indicated above. Most of the posts that I've read in this thread support the above numbers as well as being the worst along with Power.

By counting those who voted '5' twice.

As it is right now:

Voted 1 -5 :

1 217 29.85%
2 43 5.91%
3 39 5.36%
4 34 4.68%
5 39 5.36%

Total: 372

Voted 6 -10

6 37 5.09%
7 65 8.94%
8 67 9.22%
9 57 7.84%
10(best) 129 17.74%

total : 355

Not counting '5' twice.

Interestingly enough, first run Requiem had a quarter of a million viewer drop from Power.

It's second run it had the worst rating (this season to date) for a repeat not run on a holiday. (Christmas day repeat had the worst rating iirc).

:lol:

suzieQ

04-19-2009, 08:17 PM

Oops , I did count 5 twice, my bad.

Still, in terms of the negativity (here) of attitudes against all things Lana, It is not that bad, IMO. I would have expected worst. The same holds true for Power.

supes0

04-19-2009, 08:32 PM

The same holds true for Power.

Power as it is right now:

1-5:

1 247 38.84%
2 34 5.35%
3 41 6.45%
4 30 4.72%
5 43 6.76%

Total : 395 approx 62 %

6-10:

6 33 5.19%
7 43 6.76%
8 43 6.76%
9 31 4.87%
10 91 14.31%

Total : 241 approx 38%

Mickey_Bickey

04-20-2009, 05:45 AM

Power as it is right now:

1-5:

1 247 38.84%
2 34 5.35%
3 41 6.45%
4 30 4.72%
5 43 6.76%

Total : 395 approx 62 %

6-10:

6 33 5.19%
7 43 6.76%
8 43 6.76%
9 31 4.87%
10 91 14.31%

Total : 241 approx 38%

Thanks!:D Isn't that the worst ranked episode of the season? I think Requiem is second with good reason of course!

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

By counting those who voted '5' twice.

As it is right now:

Voted 1 -5 :

1 217 29.85%
2 43 5.91%
3 39 5.36%
4 34 4.68%
5 39 5.36%

Total: 372

Voted 6 -10

6 37 5.09%
7 65 8.94%
8 67 9.22%
9 57 7.84%
10(best) 129 17.74%

total : 355

Not counting '5' twice.

Interestingly enough, first run Requiem had a quarter of a million viewer drop from Power.

It's second run it had the worst rating (this season to date) for a repeat not run on a holiday. (Christmas day repeat had the worst rating iirc).

:lol:

Thanks!:cool:;) I knew something was off in those other numbers!!:lol:

Well, there's little doubt that Requiem lost viewers, because of how bad Power was, and of course Requiem only proved to be just as bad.

I'm not surprised about the repeat numbers either. Once was bad enough for me, so I imagine that many (just going by this ranking) felt the same way!

Thankfully, though, none of the characters seemed to be affected by this arc, and from Infamous on the storylines have all picked up!!:D

Kid Collins

04-20-2009, 12:26 PM

Ooooh, the members of Ksite hated Requiem! What a surprise!

Considering we make up less than .00000111% of the total viewers.

What ksite considers crap means absolutely NOTHING.

I can't believe the Power and Requiem threads are still going strong.

Lana and the end of Clana are really that unforgettable huh?

Sure made an impact on this show. :D

jlbtjb316

04-20-2009, 01:52 PM

I once again thought that the episode was very moving. Although it would not have been my first choice to end the Clana relationship by giving Lana powers and infecting her with kryptonite, I was pleased overall with Lana’s arc. I thought that it was very bittersweet to have them finally in love, happy and together only to be broken apart by a common enemy. I didn’t think badly of Lana at the beginning of the episode for wanting to work with Clark. She was naturally eager put her new skills to use and wanted that new intimacy of working side by side with the one she loved. I have heard new doctors, police officers, etc. describe the excitement that they felt when they were finally able to put their training into practice. It is a natural human feeling.

Even though I knew that TPTB were going to follow the traditional Superman mythos and have Clark end up with Lois, that did not diminish my enjoyment of the Clana relationship over the years. That is not to say that I think they have handled their relationship perfectly though. Tom Welling and Kristin Kreuk have great chemistry together, but the writers and producers squandered that by constantly miring them down in angst, pain, secrets, love triangles and other contrivances to keep them apart. Clark should have told Lana his secret long ago, and they should have had more happy times together. In addition, I agree with Triplet that Lana’s character has suffered over the years because the writers have not really known what to do with her. They tended to change her characterization from week to week to suit the story that they wanted to tell at the time. It seems like they are trying to do the same thing to Chloe now which is unfortunate. Despite all this, I have always rooted for Clark and Lana because I think that they did love each other and saw the potential in their relationship.

I think deep down that Clark and Lana are alike in many ways. They are both kind and compassionate and want to help others. In many ways I think they have both felt like outsiders at times and wanted the normal life that they never had. They both want to be loved and accepted for who they are, and in some indescribable way they just appeared to be drawn to each other. Clark, I think, admired Lana's willingness to go against what other people thought she should be or do to try to find her own place in the world. I think he also admired her hard work at the Talon and her desire to reach out and help those in need. It seems that he always saw a strength in her that even she did not realize she had, and Lana, I think, saw the hero in Clark before she ever knew his secret. They both made mistakes in their relationship, but deep down I think both have a good heart, and so I try to put myself in their shoes, give them the benefit of the doubt and look for the best in them. Even when they have hurt one another in the past, I understood where each of them were coming from and felt for them because in most cases they thought they were doing the best thing for each other. I think Clark sometimes overlooked Lana's actions because he felt responsible for them, and sometimes Lana tried to hide part of herself from Clark for fear of disappointing him. Couples do this all the time, but it doesn't make them bad people or necessarily bad for each other. Despite all their flaws, I think they understood each other's feelings and fears and really connected on an emotional level. Clark knew Lana's desire to feel safe and loved and her heart for helping people, and Lana understood Clark's innate sense of justice and his need to help others. In each other they found that love, acceptance, and companionship that they longed for (especially after Clark revealed his secret to her). They learned the hard way the pain that secrets in a relationship can cause and still remained committed to each other.

One of the reasons that I felt that their final parting was so heartbreaking was because I think they were both finally in a good place as individuals and as a couple and would have been happy. I liked the symmetry of once again having Clark, Lana and Lex face one another. In one sense Lex did not truly win, because there are now two people using their abilities for good. The technology that he meant for evil will now be used for good. But he did win in one sense. Lex felt betrayed by both Clark and Lana and hurt them in a very personal and painful way by keeping them apart. Lana will be able to go on and do much good in the world, but she will have paid a high personal cost that she could not have anticipated.

As to whether Lana should have worn the suit instead of destroying it, I have given my thoughts on this in the Power thread. Some may disagree with her decision to wear the suit, but I thought that the writers tried to make it clear that her motives for doing so were good – she wanted to help make the world a better place. As to whether or not her character was redeemed, that seems to depend largely on whether you like Lana or not. Though Lana has had her faults (as have all the characters), I feel that many of the criticisms leveled against her are overly harsh. Last season I agree that Lana was wrong to seek revenge on the Luthors in the way that she did and that she misused Clark’s powers. To me it was not so much the powers that were the problem as her heart that was the problem. Lana was obviously traumatized by her relationship with Lex, and both she and Clark failed to deal with this pain in a constructive way. Lana was motivated both by revenge and her fierce desire to protect Clark and failed to share her pain with Clark. Clark wanted to ignore everything that she had been through and wanted to pretend like it never happened. I think Lana was hurt by the fact that Clark made no attempts to stop Lex after what he had done to her and others and felt that Lex deserved to be punished for all the evil that he had done to others. The powers gave her the ability to do what she normally would not have been able to do, and she was not used to having to bring such power under control.

Having said all this, I believe that Lana came to realize the error of her ways at the end of Season 7 and wanted to put all that behind her and work to help Clark and those who had been victimized by Lex. I think she realized that her pursuit of revenge almost caused her to lose herself and everything that she cared about. Clark is to be commended for not giving up on her. He helped her to come back from a place of revenge and hurt and helped her to refocus her life on what she has always wanted to do – to find her place in the world and help others. Some seem to feel that she can never be redeemed or forgiven for her past mistakes, but after the last few episodes of last season and after this arc, I think that Lana has demonstrated that she has learned from her mistakes. I guess Lana just can't win. When her character took a darker turn, people complained, and now that she has turned her life around and decided to use the suit to help people (and keep it out of the hands of someone evil like Lex), she is still criticized. Even though Kristin Kreuk does not plan to come back, it would be nice for the writers to maybe mention what Lana is up to and to show that she is still friends with Clark and Chloe. I understand and respect the many differing opinions on this site and just wanted to offer maybe a different perspective on the Lana arc.

red_sun1938

04-20-2009, 02:12 PM

Mickey_Bickey

04-20-2009, 02:52 PM

supes0

04-20-2009, 03:24 PM

Ooooh, the members of Ksite hated Requiem! What a surprise!

Considering we make up less than .00000111% of the total viewers.

What ksite considers crap means absolutely NOTHING.

I agree.

I think the quarter million viewer drop in ratings when the show was first run spoke louder than anything else. I thought KK's last episode would do better.

It's also interesting Requiem is the lowest rated repeat not run on a holiday to date (irrc Christmas day repeat was the lowest).

Sure made an impact on this show. :D

Too bad it didn't make an impact on Clark.

He's moved on really fast. Happy as can be.

He's not searching for a cure and didn't think of using the legion ring to stop these events. He was going back anyway, why didn't he go back a week or two more? It's not like he'd have to go back years. It should have been fresh in his mind. And at the very least he should have talked to Chloe about why he decided against it. The way it looked, it didn't even cross his mind.

He even defends Tess in Turbulence for trying to kill Lana. And we see him toasting moving on and not looking back with Chloe in Hex.

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----

it would be nice for the writers to maybe mention what Lana is up to and to show that she is still friends with Clark and Chloe.

I agree with you. Clark can still talk with her on the phone, skype, email, im, etc.

Kid Collins

04-20-2009, 03:34 PM

This arc accomplished nothing as far as the series arc is concerned.

Before Power we knew the following:

We knew from the start Lana and Clark were never meant for each other (75 year old mythos)
We also know that no matter how they try to sell it, Lex isn't dead (yet again... 75 year old mythos)

So... this elaborate window dressing ultimately accomplished nothing. It just rehashed and retconned 7 seasons of a failed relationship. No matter how you slice it, this was a meaningless trip. Clark and Lana will never be. Wow, really? Lex isn't dead. "But we saw him get blown up. Ollie has his Kryptonite ring. The DNA" Give me a break. All this arc did was beat a dead horse even more than is acceptable for beating anything, dead or alive and it trotted out a sorry excuse for Lex Luthor.

Failed Experiment.

Who cares if Clark and Lana weren't meant to be? It's the journey that counts. And from the moment this show first aired to when Lana returned in Bride, it's been hammered in this show that Lana is the love of Clark's life. His soulmate.

You guys can say Clark moved on really fast. But it won't take away the fact that Lana is Clark's first choice. They ended their relationship because of outside forces and ended still very much in love with each other.

The moment Clark saw Lana right before he was going to kiss Lois, he totally forgot about Lois and only looked at Lana. He didn't look at Lois once. It's like she didn't exist. And that's how they ended Clana. Still very much in love. But a tragic, epic ending. :D

supes0

04-20-2009, 03:43 PM

Still very much in love. But a tragic, epic ending. :D

The show is not supporting this. Clark was happily moving forward 2 weeks after Lana left. He had the opportunity to stop these events from happening, he didn't. Not once since the events has he shown his heart is broken.

He should be searching for a cure, he's not bothering to even try. Lana doesn't have to be there for Clark to show his heart is broken or work on a cure. The actress not on the show doesn't mean Clark the character can't be trying to get the Fortress on line, or search for more blue kryptonite, or work with Oliver's scientists.

So much for the tragic, epic ending. He's happy. (And I'm not shipping Clark with anybody else, I don't claim he is in love with either Chloe or Lois, he's just happy to be where he is in his life, that is what we're shown post Lana. )

Kid Collins

04-20-2009, 03:50 PM

The show is not supporting this. Clark was happily moving forward 2 weeks after Lana left. He had the opportunity to stop these events from happening, he didn't. Not once since the events has he shown his heart is broken.

So much for the tragic, epic ending.

Like I said before, Kristin left the show. For TPTB to use screentime having Clark mope and look for a cure for Lana when Kristin isn't coming back is a waste.

Now if Lana didn't leave the show, then I would bet that Clark would use all of his powers to find a cure and he and Lana would be reunited to engage in more bed breaking sex.

You can use the excuse that Clark moved on quickly, but with the former female lead gone permanently from the show, I can't expect TPTB to stall this show.

But like I said, it won't take away that Lana is Clark's first choice. It's been demonstrated(Clark rejecting Lois for Lana) in Crimson, Bride and in Bulletproof, Power and Requiem. :D

Mickey_Bickey

04-20-2009, 04:03 PM

Who cares if Clark and Lana weren't meant to be? It's the journey that counts. And from the moment this show first aired to when Lana returned in Bride, it's been hammered in this show that Lana is the love of Clark's life. His soulmate.

You guys can say Clark moved on really fast. But it won't take away the fact that Lana is Clark's first choice. They ended their relationship because of outside forces and ended still very much in love with each other.

The moment Clark saw Lana right before he was going to kiss Lois, he totally forgot about Lois and only looked at Lana. He didn't look at Lois once. It's like she didn't exist. And that's how they ended Clana. Still very much in love. But a tragic, epic ending. :D

Their journey was filled with angst, mistrust, insecurities and doubts, and that's the few times that they were actually together on this show. Hardly a relationship that classifies as someone's greatest love or soul mate!

This ending was far from epic. It was downright atrocious. I've watched this show from S1, and this episode and Power were the two worst pieces of garbage that's ever been thrown at us. More or less the other terrible episodes or arcs have involved Lana's character. They should have written her off the show in S4. Then she could have left with dignity. This was just terrible.

I'm glad to see Clark's character falling in love with Lois Lane, his greatest love of all, and becoming Superman without "looking over his shoulder"!

It's hard to believe that Clark was still in love with her so much, since he forgot all about her an episode later.

Cheers to that!:D

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

I agree.

I think the quarter million viewer drop in ratings when the show was first run spoke louder than anything else. I thought KK's last episode would do better.

It's also interesting Requiem is the lowest rated repeat not run on a holiday to date (irrc Christmas day repeat was the lowest).

No surprise with the ratings drop, and they haven't recooperated since! They lost viewers because of this and Power! What a mistake the producers and writers made!

Too bad it didn't make an impact on Clark.

He's moved on really fast. Happy as can be.

He is the star of the show, and these episodes made him look like an utter fool! I was embarressed for Tom Welling having to act out this script! I cringed watching Power and Requiem! So glad, he is happier now, and he decided to sign on for S9.

He's not searching for a cure and didn't think of using the legion ring to stop these events. He was going back anyway, why didn't he go back a week or two more? It's not like he'd have to go back years. It should have been fresh in his mind. And at the very least he should have talked to Chloe about why he decided against it. The way it looked, it didn't even cross his mind.

Clearly, the writers picked right up from Bride. Unfortunately, because of the writers strike, they had to use Lana Lang this season, but at least they didn't have Clark dwell on what happened. He's moved on for sure!

He even defends Tess in Turbulence for trying to kill Lana. And we see him toasting moving on and not looking back with Chloe in Hex.

Cheers to that!

I agree with you. Clark can still talk with her on the phone, skype, email, im, etc.

Better that he's not for all our sakes! Better to have him cultivate his relationship with Lois and discover what real, ever lasting love is!

supes0

04-20-2009, 04:08 PM

Like I said before, Kristin left the show.

And like I said, this is meaningless to the actual show.

KK not on screen doesn't mean Clark can't search for a cure, it doesn't mean Clark can't express he misses Lana. He is defending Tess for attempting to kill her.

Clark doesn't have to mope or cry, he should at least show Lana's absence affects him. We saw it the first half of season 8. He wasn't moping but he verbalized he missed her. He told Lois he watched the breakup video many times.

Now, we see nothing. 2 weeks after she left he was not showing any indication the events of Requiem had any effect on him. Chloe mentions Lana, he brushes it off as nothing.

He even has the opportunity to change the events with the legion ring (going back a few extra days, not years) he didn't.

He could have said something Chloe in the exposition scene (when he told her what happened). He could have explained why he didn't go back an extra week or so to stop the events. (The other events in his life like Jonathan's death and other things that happened in previous seasons happened years ago, this happened days ago, it should be fresh in his mind).

He didn't. I'm not trying to get in to a shipper war, I'm trying to point out that the show has forgotten Lana and is having Clark move on faster than the proverbial speeding bullet.

There is no indication Clark is suffering any tragic heartbreak. Any time Chloe mentions Lana or even Clark mentions Lana, there is no sadness, no regret.

You can use the excuse that Clark moved on quickly, but with the former female lead gone permanently from the show, I can't expect TPTB to stall this show.

Just as you're using the excuse the lead is gone for Clark to move on so fast. There was a better way to handle this so Clark doesn't look fickle and that Lana's absense means so little to him.

The first half of season 8 showed us Clark was still not over Lana, KK wasn't there then either. The second half is acting as if the events in Requiem meant nothing to Clark.

But like I said, it won't take away that Lana is Clark's first choice. It's been demonstrated(Clark rejecting Lois for Lana) in Crimson, Bride and in Bulletproof, Power and Requiem. :D

I agree. Clark is not in love with Lois. Lana was his first choice. All the events you mention happen while Clark is in love with Lana, nobody else, so why wouldn't he go to Lana?

And if Clark was falling in love with Lois and left her for Lana, then I'd absolutely agree with you Lois would always be second.

However in order to make the comparison between Lois and Lana, he'd have to be in love with Lois and then leave her for Lana. The show doesn't support this. We saw him almost kiss her but that is it, he was clearly intrigued in Bride, but certainly not madly in love.

He's attracted to Lois, but nothing more. I don't think we've seen anything on screen to show us Clark is in love with her.

I don't think Clark should be with anybody for awhile, he should concentrate on himself. I like that they're showing this aspect of his development. He's not running after Lois, he's concentrating on the RBB.

I do however think we should see the events of Requiem make an impact on Clark, and the show has not shown he is missing her at all, the way they showed us the first 1/2 of season 8 (Toxic and Instinct for example)

emc3015

04-27-2009, 11:59 AM

Like I said before, Kristin left the show. For TPTB to use screentime having Clark mope and look for a cure for Lana when Kristin isn't coming back is a waste.

Now if Lana didn't leave the show, then I would bet that Clark would use all of his powers to find a cure and he and Lana would be reunited to engage in more bed breaking sex.

You can use the excuse that Clark moved on quickly, but with the former female lead gone permanently from the show, I can't expect TPTB to stall this show.

But like I said, it won't take away that Lana is Clark's first choice. It's been demonstrated(Clark rejecting Lois for Lana) in Crimson, Bride and in Bulletproof, Power and Requiem. :D

Ditto! But I also wanted to add "Blank" to the list.

darkone

05-02-2009, 01:41 AM

However in order to make the comparison between Lois and Lana, he'd have to be in love with Lois and then leave her for Lana.

Wrong. Clark could have fallen in love with Lois for a long time now even when Lana wasn't available. But he didn't. He repeatedly chosed Lana over Lois. Even when we was on Red-K he ditched Lois for her. When Clark was confronted if there's someone special in his life that makes all the pain worth it he went straight to Lana. Lois (or any other woman) wasn't even a second thought. Lana's the real deal, Lois is the consolation prize. End of story.

bigblueplanet

05-02-2009, 06:13 AM

Lois is the consolation prize. End of story.

Why Clark Kent has to have a consolation prize? He is a freaking future Superman, you know? Someone who can live for centuries and someone who can practically have any woman in the world if he wants to. (And this includes someone like Wonder Woman by the way)

I understand you’re Clana fan, but to make Clana as beautiful and memorable, don’t you want Clark Kent to be as great hero and a man as possible? If you admit (or hope) that this version of Clark Kent is a man who will go for a woman of consolation (because what? He can’t find anyone else?), don’t you think it downgrade Clana, too? He is a half of your ship, you know.

This is something I don’t understand. Many Clana fans sounds like all they care about is Lana and not Clark. For the argument's sake, what is good for Clana if you can prove that Lois would be his consolation prize by the way? I mean, the world greatest hero who inspires many generations of superheroes in the future as well, will settle down for a woman of consolation prize? How a pathetic hero/man like that makes Clana more *epic*? :confused:

YMMV, you can downgrade his future love and relationships all you want, but by doing that, I think you’re unknowingly downgrading Clana relationship as well. JMO

JLA_HQ

05-12-2009, 03:36 PM

Worst ... episode ... ever!

LBDII

05-16-2009, 03:43 PM

Probably top 5 worst Smallville EPS every along with the whole entire witch Story arc EPS.

S-hero

06-01-2009, 02:11 PM

I am Claner)) And it was the saddest episode.
After all I just can say (about CLana) that it was a sad story about true, deep love. They love each other comletely and... it was... I was shocked, really.

LJ-90

06-15-2009, 12:50 PM

KansasKitty

07-15-2009, 11:35 PM

Not my favorite episode. The last scene where Clark kisses her good-bye after crawling on barn floor towards Lana....just not a good look for the future Superman. I sure could not picture Kal-el ever doing anything like that, and I think Clark needs to embrace a bit more Kal-el-Krytonian Kick-ass 'tude if he ever is to become Superman.
I do not like that Lana has exited looking like a martyr. I would rather have seen them part with an older but wiser perspective knowing that although they were each other first love, which always remains powerful, poignant and sweet but realizing that they both want and need something or somebody else that completes them in very different ways. I agree that Lois should not be made to look like a "consolation prize" but what ultimately draws Clark and Lois together is a more solid and fitting destiny. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything exactly the way you want, after all it is not my "Love Story".

run away

07-17-2009, 01:28 PM

lois346

07-31-2009, 02:45 PM

This wasn't the best episode. But I liked the scenes with Oliver and Chole and then the one scene when Clark and Lana said goodbye. I did not like the scenes however when Clark and Lana were going around saving the world together it was so dumb and stupid. Lana will never be Clark's eqaul no matter how hard she tries. Lois and Clark make a better fighting crime team then Clark and Lana ever did.

actaeon

08-02-2009, 07:43 PM

I just can't get over the way they have Clark flip-flop on the "never kill-- never!" thing. Clark goes storming off to murder Lex-- who is a medical basket case on life support (!!!) because Lex ruined Clark's love life.

Not because Lex is an evil s.o.b., not because he endangers the world, but because he made Lana all Kryptonite-ie and untouchable. In short, a personal grudge!!!

Yet Clark is appalled that Oliver could plan to assassinate Lex. He's appalled when rogue cops dare to "take the law into their own hands". And so is Ollie appalled. When either one or both of them take the law into their own hands most every Thurs. night.

Go figure...

Selenatripox

08-07-2009, 02:49 PM

Such a great but sad episode.

Why did Lana have to leave? BUHUUU! :(

Desii

09-01-2009, 11:55 AM

I really loved this episode with a bittersweet ending.

demongirl_621

09-09-2009, 08:47 PM

I loved this episode. For years I have to admit that I complained because of Lana. She seems to always say to Clark that its best that they not be together. Then all of a sudden "Poof" there she is. It gets a little annoying, but there's nothing we can do. It's a little sad that she's gone. This episode did make me cry. (I feel bad for Clark not Lana). But, I am also happy that Lana won't be on her vengeance track anymore. She finally learned her lesson... at least I hope.

BigT

09-14-2009, 05:19 PM

Terrible. I gave it a 3, and that was kind.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl:

----- Added 16 Minutes later -----

Wrong. Clark could have fallen in love with Lois for a long time now even when Lana wasn't available. But he didn't. He repeatedly chosed Lana over Lois. Even when we was on Red-K he ditched Lois for her. When Clark was confronted if there's someone special in his life that makes all the pain worth it he went straight to Lana. Lois (or any other woman) wasn't even a second thought. Lana's the real deal, Lois is the consolation prize. End of story.

Ok, who is to say if Alicia didn't die then Clark would be back with Lana?

If Kyla never died then Clark would have never gone back to Lana.

The same goes for Raya.

So that pretty much kills your logic. If none of those girls had died then Clark would HAVE NEVER gone back with Lana! You know it! Clark would have tried to have a long relationship with any of the 3 mentioned because they were special like him. Clark always had his doubts about Lana. When it came to those 3 he knew he had a chance @ true love but sadly they were all taken from him so soon.

BigT

09-14-2009, 07:18 PM

Okay my thread was merged into this one.....

Why is Lana Lang so special right now? LOL. Because I don't see it.

Do we all remember Alicia Baker? Yeah, Clark Kent was totally in love with her, lusted after her and even proposed and married her! Yeah, he was under the red-k influence but that doesn't change Clark, it just makes him less inhibited. So Clark Kent literally marries the woman! And they are so in love but things keep on getting in the way. At the end, no one believes in Alicia except for Clark Kent. What he feels for her is described by him as very unique. //She makes me feel special and normal at the same time.// He cried tears for her when their relationship wasn't working and then sobbed like I've never seen a man sob in my life when she was dead.

Alicia Baker and Clark Kent were separated not by choice but by death.

So did Lana Lang become his second choice then? Clark never thought of Lana while he was with Alicia. And who could blame him! Alicia may have been homicidal but the woman was not only beautiful but she made Clark feel like a god (and that had nothing to do with his powers!).

In the comics, Clark Kent proposes to Lori Lemaris. They are in love and older than Clark and Lana are right now. They are in college, mature, and with relationships under their belts. Yet Lori cannot marry Clark because one thing is standing in their way, and it isn't lack of love. It's the fact that Lori Lemaris is a mermaid. This is something that she has NO control over. So Lori and Clark end. Is Lois Lane then Clark Kent's second choice in the comics?

No!!!

If this were true, that would mean that every single person who has ever been in love and been left by that love (either because of cheating or some other circumstance other than the person choosing to leave) will never find another love again. And that is BS! It's rare for people to end up with their first love. It happens, but it's very, very rare. People think when they are in love in high school that what they are feeling is everything. Then they meet someone else, feel something greater and BAAAAMMM!! They realize that what they felt in the past was NOTHING compared to what they feel now.

People last years and years married to each other. Then fall out of love and find someone else. Is the second love not true love? Many people would disagree.

My point is I don't care if Clark had returned to Lana a million times in the past. That doesn't mean that he will never be able to love another woman. And it certainly doesn't mean that the love he feels will not be true.

In the end, a true love is one that lasts!!

Has Clana ever lasted? NO!!

THANK YOU!!!!

Exactly the point! I could not have said this better myself!

Like you stated when Alicia was around Clark NEVER thought about Lana and they were seperated by death! Something that either of them had NO control over! So that would make Lana second choice because if Alicia were alive right now I guarandamntee you that Clark would still be with her and Lana would have been a thing of the past YEARS ago!

Night_Hawk90

09-14-2009, 07:25 PM

[MOD EDIT] I loved the kiss at the end i loved the bed breaking sex.

and who gives two [MOD EDIT] about alicia she's dead end of story clark would guarandamntee go back to lana in a second even if alicia was in the picture

BigT

09-14-2009, 07:50 PM

Wednesday Night.

Clark: Oh, gather around peeps. Gather around. I guess it's official. Tommorrow Lana will finished, forever.

Jimmy: You mean it, C.K.? No foolies?

Clark: No foolies.

Lois: For real and for true?

Clark: For real and for true.

Davis: I'm so happy that I don't know whether to cry or stuff a body in a dumpster.

Clark: Oh, Little Orphan experiment. You can do both. You'll always be able to do both. Why? Because I love you. I love all you. In fact, I have a meteor rock for each of you. I decided to give it to you on this night. It symbolizes my love for each and every one of you.

Tess: Clark, are you gonna sing?

Clark: Yes I am Tess and stop doing that to Lex's picture. That's glass, not your boyfriend.

Clark clears his throat and begins to sing a song to the tune of "Tomorrow" from Little Orphan Annie. A huge band rises from the ground and we go into full scale musical mode.

Clark: Lana will be gone..

Tomorrow

Bet your last green-k dollar that...

Tomorrow

She'll be done!

Davis: Just dreamin' about

Tomorrow

Carvin' up Jimmy Olsen's ass

Like Zorro...

'Til I'm done!

Lois: When I'm feeling delirious,

And curious,

About the Blur,

Chloe: I just pretend her apartment's mine,

And hold,

And say.

Lois: Non-reporter things...

Akward silence

All: Ohhhhhh Clana'll be done

Tomorrow

Really?

Tomorrow!

Not Joking?

Tommorrow!

Clark: I forgot the words

Tomorrow!

Season Eight arcs: I'll pick back up where I left off!

Tomorrow!

Lois: I'll be back!

All: Tomorrow!

Lana: But guys, I missed Lois too.

Cedric: (walking into the room) Shut your goddamn mouth and go home. (walks out of the room.)

Lana: No problem. G'Night everyone. Happy celebrating.

Clark: Sorry for the interruptions here. Take us home, Jimmy.

Jimmy: I'll be suddenly healed!

Tomorrow!

Chloe: I'll pretend to care that he is!

Tommorrow!

Lois: I'll have a job again!

Tomorrow!

All: Tomorrow!

Daily Planet: I'll exist again!

Tommorrow..

When she's gone!

Cloisers: (running into the room and singing) Ohhhhhhh Tomorrow!

Tomorrow!

We love ya!

Tommorrow!

All: You're only a dayyyyyy, aaaaaaaa wayyyyyyyyy!!

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Its Saturday and I'm pissed. That means there was a new episode of Smallville on Thursday. Fortunately, it was the last episode that I'll ever see of Lana Lang. Lets just get it over it, this review isn't going to write itself.

Previously ON: Smallville went to hell.

I know there wasn't a previously on, so hush up. Anyways, we open to the tune of a music box and a shot of a middle aged weirdo wearing sunglasses, at night, indoors as he paints the globe on a toy model Daily Planet. He goes on about how simpler it was as a child, evening admitting that toys were his best friends. Yep, he's a virgin. He turns to this creepy ventriloquist doll and continues his speech.

"Toys are powerful things, you know." - Toyman, 7:00PM. Ha! Thats what she said.

He turns back to his model Daily Planet, picks it up, and clicks a button. The globe starts spinning as he laughs at his craftsmanship. Dude you're sick, see a therapist.

Luthorcorp. Did I really just type that? After 14 episodes they finally give us our first look at Luthorcorp in season 8. There's even photos of Lex and Lionel on the wall. Who would have guessed? There's a meeting of the board with one lady raving about how sucky Tess is. She points to Tess' recent idiot activity such as: being devoted to Lana and losing the prototype of the Prometheus suit, as evidence that she's gone off the rocker and needs to booted off the Luthor island asap. When she calls for a vote of no-confidence everyone in the room raises their hands in agreement including me and my dog. So does Oliver, who waltzes in to tell them that ginormouses change is a' coming. You see, ole Oliver purchased controlling interest in Luthorcorp. Welllll that just makes everyone in the room give their bitter beer face as Ollie lectures them on their evil evilness. As the same lady jumps up to defend the legacy of Luthorcorp Oliver notices that a suspicious toy has begun swaying back and forth, then suddenly stops. He yells for everyone to get down but the room explodes before they react. Ohh its just terrible! Chairs fall out of the building, ablazed. But not to worry, they are evil chairs.

Opening Credits. I think the words of this song were specifically written for Lois and Jimmy.

Welcome to Burger King, the home of Whopper. May I take your order?

Give me Clana.

Listen numbnuts, this is the LAST TIME I'm telling you. We don't sell garbage.

Kent Farm. There's a rumbling in Clark's room and its not just the dump truck. A crack (pipe) is heard and Clana lays on his broken bed, with Lana giggling like a schoolgirl over it. Thats funny. Thats real funny, Lana. Isn't that just funny everyone? What is this, Smallville for dummies?? Anyway, still giggling, she picks up the sheet and throws it over her head, Clark follows suit and goes back under the covers. And they lay there, staring and talking about different places they can go and the things they can do with their powers. I'm not making this up, people; I'm not dumb enough. Lana quickly changes into clothes and says that the thing she really wants to do is <STRIKE>ruin Cedric's life</STRIKE> help Clark patrol Metropolis. Clark looks at her like she just told him she sat on Shelby, then tells her its a bad idea. Nonsense, Clark. Every citizen wants a lunatic on a power-trip patrolling the streets. Of course she convinces him that she can do it, because to deny Lana Lang something is unheard of. Especially now that she has super strength and super speed. He gives a stupid speech about wanting misery and Chloe knocks at the door to break up the kiss. She has urgent news about Jimmy's recovery. Ha ha ha, thats a good one. What she really has news about is the Luthorcorp bombing.

Metropolis General. Oliver lays in bed when the Ambiguously Lame Duo speeds in. After small talk, he's asked if he has an idea about who blew up the room. He gives a curious 'no' and deflects it on an angry <STRIKE>fan</STRIKE> stock holder. After he reveals that he's the new chairman of Luthorcorp, Inspector Hatchet speculates that Lex is behind the blast. Clark does what he does best when Lana is around- nods and approve. Oliver theorizes that if Lex would be after anyone it would be Lana, not him. Asked if he remember anything before the blast, Oliver gives another suspicious 'no'. Thats enough for Clark, but not for the Pink who gives him her secrets face. Ugh. They could have saved money by using a Clark bobble head doll in this scene. Thats basically what they are doing to him anyways.

Luthorcorp. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I think they 'blew up' Luthorcorp just so they would have an excuse not to ever show again this season. Pinkman and the boy blunder comes in to inspect the damage. Clark stops in his tracks around krpytonite and points it out. Lady Death rips open the box and takes out a kryptonite chip used in the explosive. Did these two stop to think about this being evidence that detectives may want to use later? Of course not. Lana moves her hand near the kryptonite chip and you've GOT to be kidding me. The Kryptonite just vanished into her skin. Can we have ONE thing on this damn show that doesn't vanish around Lana!? There a Queen's Industries logo on the chip and Lana assumes that Ollie knows more than he's letting on. Then she tells Clark that Oliver was in Cuba to kill Lex and that he has an agenda. I think I've lost feeling in my right arm. She tells Clark to giver Oliver a chance to explain but Clark wants them to solve the case on their own. UGH.

Toys-R-Evil. Toyman is talking to that ventriloquist doll again, telling it that the explosion didn't go down as planned because Tess wasn't at Luthorcorp and Ollie survived the explosion. As he promises his doll that he will take care of them too, we go inside the eye of the doll to reveal Lex watching and listening. He looks a handicapped Pirate. This cannot be good at all. Toyman turns away from the dolly Lex and says that the next move is ready. Then with a click of X-box controller he sets the miniature Daily Planet on fire, laughing like an idiot. Is this a subliminal message from the producers? Thats what they've basically done the last four weeks.

Commercial Break. Subway is good, so you don't always have to be. Their motto used to be "eat fresh." Now it's not. For some reason, that really worries me.

Dearest Oliver,

Hi. I miss you. I love you. Please. This time apart means nothing. You need me more than the old thing. Please. Come back to me.

Love,

Your shirt.

PS: Morals and Leather Pants wanted me to ask you to call them.

Metropolis General. Oliver flirts it up with Sarah Michelle Geller's sister before Chloe shows up. Does anyone notice that she ALWAYS shows up when someone else is trying to get some? Anyway, it turns out that Ollie called her over to look up info about Winslow. Because she has nothing better to do with her time like say, be with her bed stricken husband, she sits down to question Ollie about his past with Winslow. Ollie thinks that he's working for Lex but wants to keep that on the hush-hush. Seems Oliver wants to take care of Lex personally. When Chloe realizes his intentions she acts appalled and walks away saying she 'can't lie to Clark'. But she can lie to Jimmy for half a season. Anyways, Ollie plays the ole 'I'm protecting Clark' angle and she gives in. I'm really tired of the "I'm protecting Clark" line being used as an excuse by these characters to do whatever evil they want.

Ollie's Jet. Chloe is looking up Toyman on Wikipedia when Clark comes in. Chloe says she's just randomly checking files from the Luthorcorp merger but Clark thinks she's helping Oliver with a lead regarding the bombing. When asked why Chloe gets right down to the point. The big bad Lex knows Clark's secret and can kill him, so she's doing this for his own good. How sweet, in a sadistic kind of way. Clark balks at killing Lex and Chloe damn near loses her mind.

"Open your eyes Clark. Lex declared war on you years ago. He's known your secret for months. Why have you not done anything yet?" - THE Chloe Sullivan, 7:31 PM.

Clark tells her that he could have killed her when she was Chloiac but he refused. This seems to calm her down and she gives him the info she's gathered about Winslow and tells Clark that he's the bomber. Clark says he'll be careful and walks away, but Chloe shakes her head as if she still doesn't understand why he won't just kill Lex and be done with it.

At the hospital, someone went a little nuts with the party balloons. Its the 4th Blues Brother. And he wants to know Ollie's room number. Dun dun dunnnnn.

Commercial Break. No joke. I think I just saw a commercial with Mr. T. singing in a choir. What. The. Hell.

I love how condescending you are, even when I’m complimenting you.

Clark, that doesn't make any sense.

Oooh Baby! Tell me more!

Kent Farm. She that wasn't, isn't, and will never be is sitting in the kitchen holding that glass necklace. Clark comes in and its one big mush fest. She doesn't know why he kept it, he doesn't know why he should ever throw it away, I don't know why I skipped out on a romantic dinner for two at Arby's for this junk. Its just one big WHY all around. He hooks her stupid necklace around her neck and tells her that nothing will ever get in the way of their happiness, except LOGIC. She tells him that her doctor told her that it was her suit that absorbed the kryptonite in that bomb chip from earlier. Ohh, so she takes Kryptonite and balls. What a woman. Clark wants to focus on catching Winslow and gives up the info Chloe gave him. Exposition, exposition, must stop evil Lex. The end.

Metropolis General. Do you guys think that Justin Hartley cries at night if he doesn't get a shirtless scene? Anyways, he wakes up in bed handcuffed. Ahhhh, that takes me back. Then its revealed that Elwood Blues is behind the handcuffing and suddenly all the good thoughts in my head became terrible ones. Oliver wants to be uncuffed but nah-uh! Thats askin too much. He sees the balloons and sharp objects and reasons that the guy missed the children's ward upstairs. What the hell??? Anyways, he calls the guy a clown which gets him to turn around in anger. Scott starts bragging about his evil genius vendetta, buying Oliver time to pick one of his handcuffs. Winslow brags about working for Lex, some words are exchanged and finally he gets to the point. If the toy monkey clangs his cymbals together 53 times a bomb will kill Oliver. Yeah.. um.. whatever you say. If you think this sounds INSANE, check this out. This little monkey goes to town with his cymbals. He's clanging them together at like 100 clangs per minute. And Winslow decides to stand there and taunt Oliver while all of this is happening instead of hauling ass to the nearest exit. After like the 40th clang, Oliver successfully uncuffs one of his arms and grabs Winslow in a headlock and forces him to uncuff the other arm. When both arms are free, he throws what looks like a ball point pen at this toy monkey, killing it or whatever. This, after the thing must have clanged 80 times. Oliver then grabs Winslow's hand and threatens to break his fingers unless he gives up Lex's location.

Toys-R-Unnecessary. Oh look, its Team Angst. You know, if I squint hard enough, its like I'm in hell. We get a better view of Winslow's home and this place is toy heaven. Lana spots dolly Lex moving his head and thinks there's a camera inside of it. It has to be the big evil Lex whose watching them, she says to a Clark who suddenly can't come to that conclusion on his own. Then she tosses the poor motionless thing in the garbage, just like she's done to Clark's season 8 progress. Anyway, Clark uncovers a miniature Metropolis with a burnt Daily Planet. Again I ask, is this a message?

Back at the hospital, that cute nurse finds Winslow in Oliver's bed. Its not like that people. He's handcuffed and his mouth is taped, but Oliver is nowhere to be seen. She uncuffs the poor innocent Toyfreak and here comes Chloe out of nowhere to warn the nurse that she's uncuffing a villain. Winslow pushes a button and the balloons he had in the room explodes, releasing gas. The nurse and Chloe feint, and Wislow gets away... Scott free! OK OK, that was lame, I know. Shut up.

Commercial Break. Timmy, I think it's time you knew the truth. Your daddy isn't on vacation. He's not coming back. I'm afraid…oh God. He's in the Auto Zone. He got in the Zone. The Auto Zone. Oh, Timmy. It'll be OK. There. There.

Ugh, Isis. Clark calls Lana to let her know he picked up Chloe from the hospital and that the Toyman got away. Oh shut up Clark. Chloe thinks he should be out looking for the bomb, but he tells her that Lana is searching for the bomb at the Daily Planet while he wants to find Lex. WHY is she even there. She doesn't even belong there. She doesn't deserve to be there. WHY don't she go twitch her ass somewhere else. **breaks out of trance** Whew. Ha ha sorry peeps, lost my head there for moment. I'm better now. ::clears throat:: Anyway, Chloe says she found Lex in her nerdish way. Only thing is Lex's IP address keeps changing locations. She hacked into Oliver satelite and found a way for Clark to track Lex that way. What kind of TEAM is this? This is no Justice League, this isn't even close. No one trusts anybody, and each of them would turn on each other in a moment's notice. Anyway, Clark is told he has 10 minutes before the signal disappears.

Daily Planet. Clark checks up on the Pink Wonder. She says she's searched every "room" but hasn't found the bomb. Well well, isn't that something. I think TW wrote that line while the usual writers wrote everything else in the episode. Clark tells her to step aside (not really) and let him work his mojo. Using his super hearing he hears the bomb on the roof. God, no, not again. On the roof Clark walks toward the bomb but its made of a gajallion Kryptonite. Suddenly Darth Vader's voice is heard and....

I have no words...

"Clark Kent and Lana Lang, welcome to your destiny. You destroyed me in everyway, so now I'm going to take away what matters most to you. Do you know what people remember about the greatest star crossed romances? Not how the lovers met, but the way the relationship tragically ended." - Straight out of the Holy Lana, Chapter 1 verse 1. 7:45 PM.

This phony Lex then tells Clark to make a choice. Save the city or sacrifice Lana forever. Clark makes the choice and tells Lana she has to do it, and she walks up to the bomb and starts absorbing the Kryptonite within it while Clark stands there looking ridiculous. This walking disaster then rises into the air like the Phoenix, while green energy surrounds her as she sucks the life out of this show and my optimism.

After she flops to the ground, Clark tries to come near her but she's one giant kryptonite. In anger he speeds off to look for Lex. He finds a his location and its just a random truck. He says that this is the last time Lex will ever hurt anyone and starts walking toward it. Thats right folks, everything he's said this season about not killing is OK when its about other people. But when you harm his Lana you must die. This show is so damn disgusting sometimes. No wonder when people ask me if I watch it I fake an asthma attack. Lana shows up and she talks him down from killing Lex with fake tears in her eyes.

"I promise you, I will help you to punish Lex. But if you kill him, you will lose so much more than just us being together. Clark, you will lose yourself." - TOO late. And SHUT UP you fake-ass hero, 7:46 PM

A few seconds later that truck explodes behind them anyways. Totally symbolic of this episode and this arc's effect on Season 8.

Commercial break. Breathe. Drink. Breathe. Drink. Breathe, dammit breathe. She's gone forever after this, remember. Tommorrow. Remember Tommorrow.

Isis. Chloe somehow hacked into Metropolis General's surveillance footage and saw Oliver leaving the room after he handcuffed Toyguy, noticing that he has that toy monkey in his hand too. Oliver sneaks up behind her and says that Lex deserved to die. She snarks that Oliver did a good job and says that the authorities identified remains that were I.D.'d as Lex's. Oliver asks what does Clark think and she tells him that he thinks whatever Lana tells him to think. Orrr that he thinks Winslow turned on Lex. Same thing. Anyway, Oliver acts like he believes that Winslow did it, and Chloe asks if he's really going to let Winslow take the blame for the murder. Oliver basically says "Hell yeah." Chloe is beside herself and thinks its murder while Ollie thinks its justice. He scoffs at her attitude and tells her to stop acting so innocent. He brings up the final scene of Identity and says that he saw some interesting video footage himself. Chloe blames the murder of Sebastian on Brainiac but Oliver tells her that Brainiac wouldn't kill to protect Clark. Now that her hypocrisy is out, Chloe stands there speechless. On equal footing now, Oliver asks how does she feel about Lex being gone now. She has to admit that she's relieved. He asks her not to tell Clark that he killed Lex because he'll need his friends now that Lex took away his precious. Good job by JH and AM.

We then go into a big slow-motion montage with a sad song. A teary-eyed Clark is at the scene of the truck explosion. He picks up a handful of Lex's dust, stares at it heartbroken, then lets it fall out of his hand. Oliver is at the scene of the Luthercorp explosion staring at a broken picture of Lex. He looks at a ring he must have found, its Lex's trademark green-K ring. At the Talon the skunk hugs Chloe goodbye. Then Clark walks up the stairs of his loft as the song finishes.

Ring

Lana: Hello?

Unknown Caller: (Heavy Breathing)

Lana: Al, you have to let me go. This is childish.

Gough: ....

Click

Sad piano music starts. Clark sees the pretty whittle princess up in the loft. He asks if the docs can do anything and she says no. YES!! Clark still wants to look for a cure but she tells him there's nothing he can do, that its irreversible. YES!! She tells him she will also love him and that she knows what she needs to do with her life now. Life is so beautiful and precious and to be able to protect it is an amazing gift, as Clark well knows. That they made their choice on the roof and wouldn't change it. Clark tells her that she doesn't have to leave, that he wants her in his life even if they are just friends. But Lana says she's not strong enough to be around him and just be friends. YES!! She starts crying, YES!! and Clark starts walking toward her like Herman Munster, fighting through the effects of the Kryptonite coming from her body. She backs off and cries harder but he manages to make it to her and give her one last kiss. You could see the Kryptonite zipping through his facial veins as she kisses him, making him look like Bizarro. Come on now that HAD to be a message! Breaking the kiss, he falls to his knees and she runs off crying. She turns at the stairs and brings up their graveyard convo in the Pilot to tell him that he was right and that she will never be alone and neither will he. That she loves him and will always be with him. WHO CARES, JUST GO ALREADY. He's out of breath and she turns to leave in s-l-o-w-m-o-t-i-o-n. After she speeds off he barely is able to say that he loves her, then falls back exasperated.

I start to tear up. Its over. Its finally over! 7 seasons and 5 episodes worth of Pink is finally over. Its over! Its OVER PEOPLE! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All in all: Another bad episode, albeit not as bad as last week. It was a fitting hurrah for the worst character I've ever seen in Television. Please let the doorknob hit you, Lana.

I don't even know what to say about Clark anymore. These writers butchered him. Just butchered him these last 2 episodes, plus the final scene of Bulletproof. His desire to kill Lex is the second time he's wanted to do so, the first being at the end of Phantom. Both times, because he thought Lex hurt Lana. You cannot have one set of morales for one person and another for everyone else. I felt no pity for him during the final scene. Stand the hell up like a man and accept that its over with some dignity. He's NOT ready Lois, emotionally. Not after this nonsense.

Lana is a joke and her departure was handled like a joke. I bet the writers thought this was tragic or something, but its was completely stupid. A couple being forced apart because Kryptonite infected one of their bodies is the kind of storyline you find on a bad porn movie. Complete garbage all around. I'm not going to say that KK and TW didn't do a good job in that last scene. Rewatching it a couple of times- I think they acted the hell out of it. And I'm sure there was real sadness there. But.. seriously.. seriously.. kryptonite forces them apart? Get the hell off my TV, PLEASE.

The Toyman/Oliver/Chloe B storyline was the the most interesting part of this episode and one of the only redeeming things it. They did a good job with Toyman and left the door open for more. Too bad they wasted him on an episode like this. The Ollie/Chloe morality angle is interesting. I'm glad they brought up what Chloe did in Identity and its good to have confirmation that she did it. So now she and Oliver both have something on each other. Oliver having a green-K ring is very good move. I'm looking forward to seeing how this storyline plays out between they and Clark.

The fake Lex stuff was a slap to MR's face. Like Clark, they dragged him through dirt, spit, and fire just to make Lana look important and heroic. Utter complete garbage. FAIL, you idiot writers. Stop bringing Lex up if all you are going to do is spit on him. Just stop mentioning him at all if this is your idea of "keeping his name going". And that line before the bomb, about Clana being one of the greatest star-crossed lovers? You can suck an egg, writers.

The montage at the end was good, the acting in the final Clana scene was good, the Toyman/Oliver/Chloe stuff was good. Every other Clana scene, every Lex scene, and the contrived childish ending to Clana was horrific. Awful.

These last two episodes of Lana's arc has been atrocious. Its like the writers said: Hey! Let's find out what the fans want and then give them 0% of that.

I'm giving this a 5 out of 10. Second worst of the season. If I wanted to be kicked in the balls I would have went over to Mistress Rita. At least she pours you a glass of Sea Breeze first. Or so I hear.

Infamous can't get here soon enough.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

That was great, man! It sounds like something the Nostalgia Critic would say when reviewing an episode like this! Being true, funny, and tearing it to shreads if it's truly that bad! Keep it up, dude!

In fact I would love for the Nostalgia Critic to review Smallville episodes! :D

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

[MOD EDIT] I loved the kiss at the end i loved the bed breaking sex.

and who gives two [MOD EDIT] about alicia she's dead end of story clark would guarandamntee go back to lana in a second even if alicia was in the picture

[MOD EDIT]

Okay not an Alicia fan. That's fine [MOD EDIT]

And yes Alicia is dead but the point is that there relationship was seperated by death and that if she was still alive Clark would still be with her and would have never gone back to Lana. [MOD EDIT]

Night_Hawk90

09-14-2009, 08:02 PM

[mod edit]

BigT

09-15-2009, 03:32 AM

Now that I think of it this episode really wasn't that good @ all. If you're a Clana fan then you'll love it. In fact this episode was to pander to Clana fans other than that I highly don't recommend this episode. :p

funky_town021

09-28-2009, 09:50 PM

well, after watching it again on dvd, and pretty much watching 6 eps back to back, i have to say i enjoyed the Lana arc despite the fact that its a little farfetched, but going back to season 7, i can see it making sense. i have to say, this episode was fantastic. i give it 10 out of 10.
the reason i liked it so much was because everything has closure now, so to speak. lana and lex left after s7, they're back and this episode is when they leave, forever (although Lex will probably be back), and leaves everything open for new villians and new love interest (Lois). the ending to Requiem was really sad, i felt bad for Clark, Lex showed just how much of a bastard he is, even after 'death'.
also, i like lana and all, but im glad shes gone for good so no more lana and clark.

4815162342LOST

10-12-2009, 06:55 AM

7/10, purely for the good acting form KK and TW.

NadiaBreca

10-18-2009, 02:05 PM

9,muahahahaha Lana bye bye :D

Clark/Lois-fan

11-08-2009, 07:06 AM

Bye bye Lana Lang. You certainly have changed in the years- and not for the better.

oh- I hated this ep. Toyman was awesome.

BigT

01-31-2010, 11:25 AM

Thank god for season 9 otherwise this show wouldn't be able to recover from this ****! :mad: :D :p

Bye bye Lana Lang. You certainly have changed in the years- and not for the better.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Nope! She certainly hasn't. :\

Dispite the final scene she had a terrible exit and quite frankly I really don't give a damn. As long as she's off my television screen I'm happy! ;)

Who really gives 2 ****s about Lana anyway?

Nimkong

03-05-2010, 04:21 PM

This episode is better than the last one.I liked the plot,the toyman was kool and lexs departure was sad

Kall-Ell

08-15-2010, 07:45 AM

I am a Clois fan ! But I love Kristen Kreuk !!!!
I would like Clark and Lois to be together for that I understan Lana had to go ... BUT for GOD's SAKE NOT LIKE THIS !!!!!
They being away because of some disagreement would have done the trick as well ... not bringing them together for a day or two and then splitting them apart .... It so much more painful.
They both are good characters that want to do good for the world, they don't deserve so much pain.

PS: It was one of the most emotional episodes, after Reckoning. Last scene was brilliantly executed by both characters. Hope to see KK on the show again, soon!

BigT

09-21-2010, 05:31 PM

I really didn't care for the last scene. There I said it! I am heartless. :eek::p:lol:

Overcast 86

11-21-2010, 06:28 PM

why didn't Clark just back up and use his heat vision to alter the bomb to black kryptonite?

When Lex was separated from his evil side in one of the earlier seasons, that happened because his scientists were heating green k, the experiment went wrong and made green k go to black k cause the rock was too hot.

So if Clark and Lana would stand back, Clark could heat it up and Lana with her new suit could use her powers to destroy the bomb. Team Work!

mirandalynn22

01-17-2011, 05:16 PM

The plot holes in this episode combined with the immature ending of Clark and Lana's relationship as well as poor character portrayal's makes it one of the worst in the history of that show. It had no point in being made and I have thought that since the episode aired, whoever came up with the idea for this SL, the whole Lana power-Kryptonite suit, I would just like to know what kind of hallucinogenic drugs they were taking that made them believe it was a good idea. And why did the other writers go along with it? Were they all on the same thing? Because that's the only way I can find them thinking this was a good and well thought out idea. If Clark really wanted to be with Lana, then he could have easily used the ring to time jump. He had no problem doing it in the VERY NEXT episode. Or he could have searched for a way to remove the suit, had Lana wear blue K when around him.

There are SO MANY things he could have done for them to be together if he wanted to be with her soooo badly. Which clearly he didn't, and that only makes their final ending seem petty and immature, I would have expected more from a couple that had been through so much. Maybe an end between them where they are mature adults and realize 'hey we just aren't meant to be.' and then maturely split ways promising to remain friends no matter what. Instead we get... Lana going on some weird power trip because apparently she can't ever be Clark's partner in life unless she has Super powers, at least in her mind set which makes her seem... I don't know, pathetic and I really used to like her character a lot. Not to mention Clark was depicted as a chump, and a hypocrite while Oliver was turned into a murderer, and Lex, the evil genius' final act was one of him being petty and mad that his ex wife didn't love him anymore. Lex is an evil genius, EVIL GENIUS people, not some petty every day jerk.

Lana's arc was handled beautifully in Bride-Bulletproof, what happened with Power and Requiem, I really just want to know what happened.

Overcast 86

01-17-2011, 05:18 PM

mirandalynn22

01-17-2011, 05:49 PM

Wow. I couldn't have said it better myself. If I had to change one thing about the entire show, it's how they handled Lana's departure.

I have no idea why Brian and Kelly allowed that to happen whenever it was come up with and pitched in the writing room. Surely they could see the major backlash, even my friend, a long time and die-hard Clana shipper hated the way it was handled. Lana was changed into a character that a lot of us did not recognize. I don't know who that was that showed up in 'Power' and especially in 'Requiem' but that was not the Lana Lang I knew. The power trip, then Clark wanting her to remain in her life and her basically being all no, if I can't have you I can't be your friend. I just wanted to smack the entire writing room and then bang my head against my wall. Shouldn't their relationship have meant more to them that they would still want to be involved in each others lives in some form or another? I just don't get it, in my opinion, it was disrespectful to the Clark and Lana relationship - as was season seven, but that's just me.

I personally believe that Clark and Lana should have remained forever in the innocence that is first love, that's how their relationship should have ended, in my opinion, so there could still be good feelings about it. Instead I look back on it and think 'Oi, what were the writers smoking?' then I shiver. It would be more enjoyable to look back at Clark and Lana and think 'awh that was so sweet, his first time being in love'. Lois will always be Clark's true love, no matter what incarnation, she's Lois Lane and he's Clark Kent/Superman. She's it, his one great love, yadda, yadda, yadda. But Lana Lang is his first love and I have no desire to contest that in any way, it was an important thing for them to experience so that it would prepare them in the future for when their true love's came along. I do however hate the way it was played out in this episode arc because now I cannot have any warm fuzzy, Winnie and Kevin, type thoughts of this couple.

Overcast 86

01-17-2011, 07:03 PM

I have no idea why Brian and Kelly allowed that to happen whenever it was come up with and pitched in the writing room. Surely they could see the major backlash, even my friend, a long time and die-hard Clana shipper hated the way it was handled. Lana was changed into a character that a lot of us did not recognize. I don't know who that was that showed up in 'Power' and especially in 'Requiem' but that was not the Lana Lang I knew. The power trip, then Clark wanting her to remain in her life and her basically being all no, if I can't have you I can't be your friend. I just wanted to smack the entire writing room and then bang my head against my wall. Shouldn't their relationship have meant more to them that they would still want to be involved in each others lives in some form or another? I just don't get it, in my opinion, it was disrespectful to the Clark and Lana relationship - as was season seven, but that's just me.

I personally believe that Clark and Lana should have remained forever in the innocence that is first love, that's how their relationship should have ended, in my opinion, so there could still be good feelings about it.

The Lana/Clark relationship was such a significant part of the show for so long, that I was hoping that when it ended, both Clark and Lana would remain good friends, but also learn that they are not right for each other. Even though they do eventually realize that they're not supposed to be together, IMO, it shouldn't have to take a Kryptonite Suit and Lex Luthor for them to understand that the relationship does not work. I'm sure the Clark and Lana I remember could figured this out themselves.

mirandalynn22

01-17-2011, 09:39 PM

The Lana/Clark relationship was such a significant part of the show for so long, that I was hoping that when it ended, both Clark and Lana would remain good friends, but also learn that they are not right for each other. Even though they do eventually realize that they're not supposed to be together, IMO, it shouldn't have to take a Kryptonite Suit and Lex Luthor for them to understand that the relationship does not work. I'm sure the Clark and Lana I remember could figured this out themselves.

In season seven you could tell that they were beginning to especially when Clark admitted to Lana that he didn't know if they would be together forever and so on. He knew they were having problems, she knew things weren't working. I really wish they had just left it at her leaving that video and then leaving. At least that was an adult realization and a smart decision from her. And Clark even accepted it, 'Requiem' and 'Power' regressed the characters backwards instead of moving them forward and showing them making the hard decisions. They didn't make any decisions, other people and forces had to make the decision that their relationship, for the UMPTEENTH time, was going to end. I would have preferred to see Lana and Clark from season seven that were beginning to be adults about their relationship just say 'Hey, you know what, we really just aren't meant to be, but I think we should stay in touch and be friends.'

Overcast 86

01-17-2011, 09:53 PM

In season seven you could tell that they were beginning to especially when Clark admitted to Lana that he didn't know if they would be together forever and so on. He knew they were having problems, she knew things weren't working. I really wish they had just left it at her leaving that video and then leaving. At least that was an adult realization and a smart decision from her. And Clark even accepted it, 'Requiem' and 'Power' regressed the characters backwards instead of moving them forward and showing them making the hard decisions. They didn't make any decisions, other people and forces had to make the decision that their relationship, for the UMPTEENTH time, was going to end. I would have preferred to see Lana and Clark from season seven that were beginning to be adults about their relationship just say 'Hey, you know what, we really just aren't meant to be, but I think we should stay in touch and be friends.'

yeah. I can't disagree. When the final episode of season 7 aired and Lana made the goodbye video, I was like "okay... bye Lana, hello Lois." As soon as Lois hugged Clark, I smiled, knowing that it would finally be Clois time after three years. But then... you know.:lol:

mirandalynn22

01-17-2011, 10:14 PM

yeah. I can't disagree. When the final episode of season 7 aired and Lana made the goodbye video, I was like "okay... bye Lana, hello Lois." As soon as Lois hugged Clark, I smiled, knowing that it would finally be Clois time after three years. But then... you know.:lol:

Well we finally got around to it though, and isn't it grand these days? I mean seriously, they are so great, love how they're depicted. Completely in love, happy, honest with each other, partners in life. They're the most healthy and real relationship this show has seen besides Jonathan and Martha Kent.

Cloning Blues

02-22-2011, 12:37 AM

I made this comment in another thread, and it bears repeating: this episode was a very bad idea that got executed very well. The fundamental concept of the episode is horribly, horribly flawed, because, as everyone has said, it completely screws up his eventual relationship with Lois, as well as any meaningful relationship Lana might want to have in the future. That being said, the actual writing (dialogue wise) was solid, we got evil supervillain Lex (finally), a great live-action version of the Toyman (which I wouldn't have thought doable), some solid Oliver scenes, and some excellent acting from Tom Welling, Justin Hartley, Chris Gauthier, and yes, Kristin Kreuk. I hate Lana, and that last scene still left me feeling hurt. It's probably the best performance I've seen from her, and for the first time, I understood why Clark liked her in the first place. Lex's scenes were great, and I loved seeing him prove that even without his money, connections, resources, and physical mobility, he's still the baddest supervillain in the entire show. He did more damage in one episode than most baddies do all season, and left the hero community quaking in their boots even though he was the one on life support.

In summation, Requiem is a very well done episode that suffers from being built around a fundamentally flawed premise. Why can't the episodes with good ideas get this level of acting, writing, and timing?

Simba_Muffy

02-23-2011, 03:23 AM

The Good: Lana is gone for good. Toyman.
The Bad: Everything else.

For some unknown reason, Clana could never behave like a normal couple. End like a normal couple.

Superboogie

05-05-2011, 01:42 AM

Horrible. This and prior 3 episodes don't make any sense with the rest of the season 8. It almost feels like some spin off mini-series in the middle. I don't know what the writers were thinking by ruining otherwise quite good season with this crap. I have a feeling certain people were involved. This would have made a lot more sense in place of episodes 1-4.

Actually the whole season 8 makes a lot more sense if you skip this 4 episode crap and jump from Bride to Infamous.

mirandalynn22

05-20-2011, 11:10 PM

The Good: Lana is gone for good. Toyman.
The Bad: Everything else.

For some unknown reason, Clana could never behave like a normal couple. End like a normal couple.

like a healthy couple, it's all this twilight angst is what they got. And lord don't even get me started on how unhealthy Edward and Bella/Jacob and Bella are. I seriously wrote a paper for psych on why she needed to see a therapist at least once a week for codependency issues, maybe I should have recommended Lana see one as well, because she needs to work on her self esteem issues that she developed in Power and Requiem.

LoveHurts38

12-27-2011, 12:10 PM

For some unknown reason, Clana could never behave like a normal couple. End like a normal couple.

They should of taken notes from Lollie because after being lovers now they are just very good friends.

Plus, I did read that in the DVD series set in the DP newspaper it seems that Lana is back in Metropolis working in LexCorp her obsession for Lex is forever engraved in her.