View Full Version : Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of "Requiem"?
Dresden
02-05-2009, 09:10 PM
Okay my thread was merged into this one.....
Why is Lana Lang so special right now? LOL. Because I don't see it.
Do we all remember Alicia Baker? Yeah, Clark Kent was totally in love with her, lusted after her and even proposed and married her! Yeah, he was under the red-k influence but that doesn't change Clark, it just makes him less inhibited. So Clark Kent literally marries the woman! And they are so in love but things keep on getting in the way. At the end, no one believes in Alicia except for Clark Kent. What he feels for her is described by him as very unique. //She makes me feel special and normal at the same time.// He cried tears for her when their relationship wasn't working and then sobbed like I've never seen a man sob in my life when she was dead.
Alicia Baker and Clark Kent were separated not by choice but by death.
So did Lana Lang become his second choice then? Clark never thought of Lana while he was with Alicia. And who could blame him! Alicia may have been homicidal but the woman was not only beautiful but she made Clark feel like a god (and that had nothing to do with his powers!).
In the comics, Clark Kent proposes to Lori Lemaris. They are in love and older than Clark and Lana are right now. They are in college, mature, and with relationships under their belts. Yet Lori cannot marry Clark because one thing is standing in their way, and it isn't lack of love. It's the fact that Lori Lemaris is a mermaid. This is something that she has NO control over. So Lori and Clark end. Is Lois Lane then Clark Kent's second choice in the comics?
No!!!
If this were true, that would mean that every single person who has ever been in love and been left by that love (either because of cheating or some other circumstance other than the person choosing to leave) will never find another love again. And that is BS! It's rare for people to end up with their first love. It happens, but it's very, very rare. People think when they are in love in high school that what they are feeling is everything. Then they meet someone else, feel something greater and BAAAAMMM!! They realize that what they felt in the past was NOTHING compared to what they feel now.
People last years and years married to each other. Then fall out of love and find someone else. Is the second love not true love? Many people would disagree.
My point is I don't care if Clark had returned to Lana a million times in the past. That doesn't mean that he will never be able to love another woman. And it certainly doesn't mean that the love he feels will not be true.
In the end, a true love is one that lasts!!
Has Clana ever lasted? NO!!
beresford_st
02-05-2009, 09:10 PM
what is PS3?????
Sports72Xtrm
02-05-2009, 09:11 PM
I gave this episode a 5 and that is being generous. The guy who played Toyman was pretty good but the writing was a little iffy. SuperLana becoming walking kryptonite now? Really? It's not exactly closure for a relationship and it could have been handled a lot better than the whole the world is out to get Clana. Lana having powers to begin with really ticks me off and retaining those powers, wow....Smallville really elaborated her role and she is nothing in the Superman mythos or in any mythos except Smallville. What next? Is she going to join the Justice League? But she's gone and hopefully never comes back.
OneWayFilms
02-05-2009, 09:14 PM
I'm too committed to stop watching over this, but it sure seemed like a terrible way to end her story. Lana a Superhero? What the heck is THAT all about?
ChronX4
02-05-2009, 09:17 PM
I'm too committed to stop watching over this, but it sure seemed like a terrible way to end her story. Lana a Superhero? What the heck is THAT all about?
Yeah and it really make's Lois look like the OTHER love he ended up with.
IMO writters fell in love with their creation.
thehenry89
02-05-2009, 09:19 PM
I've come to far to quit. I just sat through the most horrible peice of crap ever written, I want some payoff.
Larel
02-05-2009, 09:20 PM
What was Lana in the comics...just a high school gf?
She was of no great importance really, far more glorified in this SV version but not important enough to warrent any real mentioning anywhere else!:p
Simply because we all know there was only 1 woman that mattered to Clark......what was her name again.....La......nooooo it was ...... LOIS yeah Lois Lane that was her name, the love of Clark's life if I remember correctly!;)
hyped1
02-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Horrible episode! Even Toyman was lame! Everyone except for Clana were out of character. Green Arrow KILLING (or even attempting to kill) Lex is wrong but Clark attempting to kill Lex is beyond forgivable! Last scene was sad, and again forced separation is always a weak way to end the relationship. Clark has not and will not ever move forward and thus ALL OUR frustrations continue!
I agree with everyone who said episode sucked but yet want another season, it dawned on me that it's not the show we love, or the storyline, or their take on it...it's SUPERMAN! We keep hoping to see or at least catch glimpses of the greatest hero Superman but instead we get a whiny, emo, 90210 Dawsons Creek version of superBOY!
Even in Smallville timeline Clark is at least 23 yet he acts like a 15 yr old boy! Time to grow up...WRITERS! I am sure Tom Welling would like to play a character within 10yrs of his actual age!
myankskent
02-05-2009, 09:24 PM
I've come to far to quit. I just sat through the most horrible peice of crap ever written, I want some payoff.
I'm starting to believe that the only payoff that will be satisfying is if a huge kryptonite bomb destroys the entire earth.
bmwhype
02-05-2009, 09:26 PM
same here. i only watched smallville because of kristin kreuk and to some extent the devious ways of Lex. the introduction of tess and the defect of Kreuk is sure to drop the ratings.
Princess_Kara
02-05-2009, 09:27 PM
I feel so horrible for saying this, I have been watching Smallville since the very first episode, and I thought this was the worst episode in Smallville history:(To be honest I do not think I will ever view the show the same way again. This was my favorite show of all time next to the Wonder Woman television show. I do not think I can get passed this episode to move on to the next. I mean last weeks episode was so disappointing I thought there was no way it could get any worse, boy was I wrong. I do not want to be a fair weather fan, but it will take some serious commitment to make me sit in the seat and continue to watch (enjoy) Smallville.
Theshadow129x
02-05-2009, 09:27 PM
^ that my friend wouldnt be so bad right now
Steve-El
02-05-2009, 09:27 PM
Don't quit just yet. Your retirement won't have anything to do with Smallville's future.
bmwhype
02-05-2009, 09:27 PM
and i was a fan from the start, evident from my sign up date.:)
thehenry89
02-05-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm starting to believe that the only payoff that will be satisfying is if a huge kryptonite bomb destroys the entire earth.
At this point I'm inclined to agree, but maybe I'll feel less depressed in March :rotfl:.
mombi
02-05-2009, 09:28 PM
If somebody didn't at least get choked up at that last scene they don't have a heart. That was one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen.
Does it count if I choked on my vomit?
MsCali4Eva
02-05-2009, 09:28 PM
I gave this eisode a 7 out of 10. To my own surprise - I actually liked this episode, better than Power. I'm not a Clana shipper, however, the last scene was sadly beautiful. I liked the close-up shoots, photography, and background music. All the actors rocked in this episode. I don't necessarily agreed with the direction that Ollie is heading (killing people), Kryptonite absorbing Lana with super-powers, or Lex dead, but hey....it's Smallville, not Superman, not the comic book, not the cartoon, and certainly not the movies. I want to see how this season (and CK) pans out in March with all that has occurred thus far - cuz CK/TW is why I watch.
tippership commander
02-05-2009, 09:29 PM
I can not believe what I just saw. For everything I’ve seen Lana and Clark go through for 8 years, and everything I’ve ever read about Lana in comics, I can’t believe PS3 actually ended Lana’s story like this… They made up one stupid idea out of nowhere about Lana getting powers last week, and they’re using that idea to end her whole story?!?!?!!! You have got to be f-cking kidding me.
Now we’re suppose to just know Lana Lang is somewhere out there with powers, we’ll never hear from her again, and accept that as closure to Lana's 8 year story on this show?
Actually, most of this season I thought PS3 were turning things around and improving Al & Miles‘ last few lame years. Hey, I thought Legion was the best episode in 5 years…. But this ending to Lana’s story is so lame, that as a loyal viewer I am truly offended, and now I don’t even want to see how this show ends Clark’s story... So I am done watching Smallville.
This is my final post.
Thanks to all the fans I ever had interesting conversations with on these boards.
Good bye.
ALlright, this is to everyone who's quitting SV, LISTEN UP!
first, ask yourself" What woudl superman do"
now...(this addreses more than lana fans/nonfans, so ...)
if that is your final post, i want you to think about how superman would feel about a cause he's commited to always..(such as NEVER killing,)
you do realize, that
1. Clark LEARNED ANOTHER DECISION that superman knows when he's come to, that NO MATTER what happns, KILLING is never an option(i'll give you a hint: it's what season 8 is ABOUT, clark learning superman skills, and this is ONE of them)
2. Green Arrow is learning the SAME lesson-which is whu the league will have the no kill rule( hint: even the legion didnt have it)
he'll come arounnd, ITS NOT OVER YET< so ....you're jumping the gun,
OBVIOUSLY
don't lose faith in what hasnt even occured!!!!!
the fat lady did NOT sing, and won,t for a WHILE
3. Chloe is feeling remorse, because she's a good person, and though she agreed with oliver, because his argument seemed perfect at the time, and her guilt got her for a sec.....do you realy think that? i mean, she does the right thing IN THE END, and even HER and oliver, with clear minds ,admitted in the end tht "what would clark do" was the main thing, that being like him was what it's ALL ABOUT..just wait, and you'll see
4. er, Imra never said she'd become a superhero...she'll go on to do ISIS-like things...
she'll settle down, she won't stay a superhero, i feel..
nothing indicates she's a superhero for life...
SHE's likely to hang up the 'cape' and do more down-to-earth work...she'll tire of the superhero role, expecially as another guy.... ;) becomes the #1 hero...and she'll become the great person she's known for
5. Not YET
you're jumping the gun..
i mean, if you had the MAJORITY of smallville fans agreeing, then you might be onto something ,at best..
but, take some time, then realize smallville is a LEGEND, and..
Clark is STILL becoming superman..
remember, uperman and relationships aren't connected...
Several people complained that lois was liking clark TOO early...well guess what? it was the TEASE, to the fun..
because CLOIS isn't official...i mean, CLANA has all this parrying in the early going b4 things got p to shape( so GIVE clios as much time as you gave Clana, otherwise, it wouldnt be fair..)....technically, alicia did too...
Lois's love will be true, and Lana will become a great person..
the powers, ARE NOT that big of a deal....
AND, all that has YET to come anyway, and Clark is DEFINITLY< WITHOUT a doub't TURNING INTO superman
so cheer UP,quit sayign the episode sucked, and enjoy Smallville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i sure am, and i've been watching since season 4
i guess ,i'm a TRUE SV fan, ..
just as i KNOW you are, despite all that you say that might seem contrary
WHY? because i have hope,
;SUPERMAN wouldn;t quit-
just like SUPERMAN always finds the right way to solve problems, and NEVER GIVES UP, .....you really think i'd quit on smallville?
and you wont either
-
-who's with me?
----------------------Sincerely, The Tippership Commander
shy175223
02-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Does it count if I choked on my vomit?
lol:lol::lol::rotfl:
Alicia Chipy
02-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Everyone did a 180 degree turn of character.
I felt no emotion watching the sappy Clana scenes,and Ollie's calculating revenge on Lex,left me wondering if the hero had died in the explosion.
I should have rated it a 1 instead of 3.Can I recast my vote?
Dresden
02-05-2009, 09:32 PM
Lana Lang is NO ONE in the comics. Lol. She ends up marrying Pete! Lol. She has a baby by him. Lol. And names him Clark!!! Ahahaha!
Okay, okay, I need to breathe because I laugh too much every time I remember DC-Lana.
Anyway then Lana is all boo-hoo Pete isn't good enough for me. She divorces him goes to Smallville and leaches on to the Kents. She then goes to Clark and tells him that Lois Lane isn't good enough for him because she doesn't love Clark, only Superman. Sigh. The poor woman has this baby with her and throws herself at Clark like some cheap skank.
Suffice to say Clark boots her and Lana is now tagging along with Supergirl in another series of comic books.
So is Lana Lang important in the comics? Oh, no. Not by a long shot, folks. Not by a long shot.
superspider02
02-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Well the episode tonight was mostly pretty good. I enjoyed the lex luthor, toyman and oliver aspects of the episode. As for the lana stuff i didnt like what they did with her. Still a pretty decent episode.
Well lets start with toyman, i liked that he was working undercover for lex and was trying to take out tess and ollie. The actor playing him was very good and i enjoyed his take on the character. His outfit was pretty cool and he played an evil guy pretty well.
Lex was pretty good to see once again, even though it wasnt michael. I thought the body actor was pretty good even though he wasnt really moving much and was just pretending to be talking, the distorted voice thing was a nice angle to go since they couldnt get michael to ever just do a VO for them like james marsters did at the end of episode 9 abyss. I thought it was pretty cool how they said lex wasnt actually in one place all this time but was mobile.
I doubt he is actually dead, i bet that truck was a decoy and he had a "Dead" clone/copy their just incase something like this happened. And its likely what they are going to do. As for him being dead for story wise was probably so they can have clark move on from lex and be superman and all that. Also what lex was saying in the episode was pretty cool and very lex like.
Oliver in the episode was good too but he is taking a dark turn again, and i was shocked that he took the bomb monkey to "lex's" truck and he was the one to blow him up, and it was pretty cool to actually see luthorcorp inside for once this season i was wondering if we were going to see it again at all. Also it was cool he brought up the brainiac killing kane from earlier in the season to make a point. Cant wait to see where ollie goes for the rest of the season and what will be happening with Queen industries
And now for lana lang. Its great we finally got to the end of kristen kruek's 5 episode return. Overall her acting was pretty good during her return. Though i totally didnt like what went down with lana in the episode. When she sucked up the krypto from the bomb at the start i knew it wasnt going to end well. Totally pissed they went having lana kryptonite infected and cant ever be around him any more or it would kill him. It would have been alot better if she just didnt get powers in the other episode and through the course of the events with toyman and lex they both agree a relationship would never work out and mutally break it off. Now i dont see how they are ever going to make lois see more like a second choice/a compromise since he cant be with l ana ever. Though i thought it was great that lana got her old kryptonite necklace back i was wondering if that was going to happen. And one thing during the last scene i thought was cool was seeing the kryptonite effects of the viney blood vines on clarks face was a nice touch, i have missed seeing that old effect any more. I always wondered why they droped doing that around season two.
As for the episode in all pretty good, had some flaws but i liked it alot. Cant wait to see where infamous goes on march 5th. Hope the lana free episodes get back to where things were going before she returned.
bmeklthompson3
02-05-2009, 09:37 PM
I have really enjoyed watching Clana in the past, but I was really getting sick of it. I thought this particular episode was pretty good and very well acted. I cried like a baby at the end even though I am glad to see Lana go. The show has went in a totally different directions to accommodate Lana being back and it feels really forced. Most of the other story lines were just completely dropped. Like, why is Chloe running around Metropolis helping Clark when her husband is somewhere else in the hospital? Why is Lois there with him instead of her? I'm glad they will be able to get back to the other story lines. Lois brings some humor to the show that is sadly lacking anytime the Clana relationship is anywhere around.
thehenry89
02-05-2009, 09:37 PM
giving this episode a one, is way too kind.
daxam77
02-05-2009, 09:37 PM
Firstly..."Here's a hint: if it glows green, don't touch it, moron."
Thanks, Bfuzze for a good laugh tonight!
Secondly...
I'm not a Smallville/Lana fan at all, but I always rooted for her to win over Lois in the Silver Age comics. I really think on Smallville, they've made the character power hungry. She is the one who made the decision to become so powerful which put her in this position of being Kryptonite to Clark. It sounded to me like she was just as gung ho to be one-half of a powerful super-hero team with Clark as she was in loving him. He's got to see her for what she is in order to move on to Lois freely. I hope the writers see that.
But I can understand once a writer came up with this idea of her absorbing Kryptonite and separating the two lovers forever, they just couldn't resist not writing it. Nice scene,and well done, even though I didn't like it for the insult to the Lois relationship. On Smallville, I'm rooting for Lois! The actress plays her with a very kind heart for all her bravado.
Thirdly...
I also HATED the fact Lana thinks she has to remind Clark he shouldn't kill. He hadn't done it yet. Why does she think he would? I know he would have stopped at the last second. He is Clark. He's the one who stops everyone else from killing! She should have known that too, if she knew him at all.
I did want to point out one little character point I've been noticing about the way Durance plays Lois. She has "hit" Clark from almost the first show she's been on, and he never flinches but just looks at the place she hit. She should be hurting her hand when she does that, especially as his body gets stronger.
I think either the actress or the writers have come up with an "out" for getting around the Clark-can't-have-a-physical-relationship-with-an-earth-girl-because-he'd-hurt-her problem. I think Lois is physically tougher than Lana normally and Clark is registering this subconsiously even though he's really not noticed on the surface. Just a thought, but maybe that's enough to convince him they are the true soulmates, not someone crazy enough to experiment on herself to get powerful.
Mr.Magic
02-05-2009, 09:38 PM
Bizarroville? Everyone was OOC.
1/10
DavidM2
02-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Superspider02, i completely agree. At first I was fed up with Lana, but then I paid attention to Toyman, Oliver, and Lex (not MR, but oh well :( ) and actually enjoyed parts of it. I think if ps3 can show that Clark is over Lana (knowing they can never be together) and MOVE ON to Lois, then I'll be satisfied. Lana was his first love, but Lois is his soulmate. :)
rainbowtrout
02-05-2009, 09:39 PM
I hated the ep and thought this storyline was a terrible send-off for KK, but she did her best acting in that last scene.
loistickyfingerz
02-05-2009, 09:41 PM
L-A-M-E.
That's what I think. I don't like the fact that Lana is painted as Clark's one and only true love, so the only reason he "settles" for Lois Lane later is because Lana got filled with kryptonite so they physically could not be together.
Symbolically I get it, but I don't think Lana was the only reason Clark and Lana could never be. I think it was because of both of them, who they are just didn't match up.
But whatever, Kristin did a good job and I'm sorry to see her go, just not sorry to see the character go.
However, she is gone, don't let the door hit you on the way out and now...on to greener pastures.
Lex dead? I don't buy it. And what was with Clark suddenly deciding he couldn't trust Oliver just because Lana said something? That was way weak, maybe she was kryptonite for his brain.
Khyla
02-05-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm very sorry some folks could not put aside their ship bias, and preconceived notions here, and see the value in this episode.
Yes, it was full of character contradictions, etc and after last week's rather lame POWER, where Lana's saccharin sweetness just couldn't convince me that she could be that honorable, I was very surprised at my reaction to REQUIEM! It felt real. I was practically in tears at the end. I felt so bad for Clark. It must have been the acting.
... It was the kind of moment where you almost feel like its your own heart being ripped out. You feel so much sympathy for the characters, ...
exactly.
That was a very sad scene, I have to admit. The love that they have for each other can't even be measured. For Clark to kiss her like that with all of that pain...can't even finish the sentence...
awwwwww *sniff* *wipes tear from eye*
I pretty much bawled my eyes out, and continued for like 15 minutes after the show was over....
double 'awwwwww'. Just shows you guys have a heart. :)
...that last scene was some of the best acting/writing that Smallville has delivered ---especially from TW and KK.
I can appreciate the end of that relationship as a beautiful poetic ending...
ITA
Another thing I liked about REQUIEM is that it also gave us a deeper insight into CHloe's makeup with a little help from her not-so-honorable pal, Oliver, bringing up her part in the murder of Sebastian. It was actually refreshing to find out that CHloe is human afterall, a human who would protect Clark as fiercely as a mother protects her own child.
---Once again this show has compared the two main women in Clark's life and their dedication to him. Chloe's heart will ache along with his for Lana, one more thing Clark can share with her. Chloe will continue to shoulder his bereavement and be his friend, working beside him as she has all along, continuing to give him the one thing he says he wants so much in life, someone to share it all with. and there will be a time WHEN he finally sees that it's her and accepts her with all her flaws and human weaknesses, even embraces them.---
is anyone else disappointed that Chloe and Clark never had anything that lasted longer than one episode? i always thought they were perfect for each other. until a few seasons ago i was hoping for the chlois theory to come true (that chloe would eventually turn into lois). they couldn't do it now. but the end of season three would have been the perfect setup for it.
I don't see why they couldn't do it now, or even at the end of the series.
rosasc
02-05-2009, 09:44 PM
I laughed at the last Clana scene because it was so stupid.
me too...
1...
Promise
02-05-2009, 09:44 PM
I'm sorry but this was the BEST episode! I can't see how anyone would bash this one.
Anyways, this was for all the smallvillle fans and Clana fans.. It had everything drama and some comedy and lots of Superman stuff!!! I love how they went back in the past for us Clana fans, even all the way to Season 1 at the grave yard, wow!
I will miss my Clana, and I accept the goodbye, and I love the fact that it ended with them still Loving each other!!! 8yrs of Clana, wow. TW AND KK, I appluad you and thank you. I felt that, thank you once again to why your the best couple on the show. Those tears in the end, again, WOW!!! I hope they act in a movie in the future, NOTEBOOK 2 or something.
As for the rest of the episode, talk about mythos twisted. GA kills Lex Luthor????!!!, they even gave him a send off, and nice of Clark to pick up the ashes of Lex. As a Superman fan, I like it. Its different and its the first time Lex has been killed in TV/Movie like form. It's weird still, but for some reason, I accept it. I guess Doomsday is the final test before he becomes Superman. I liked the Toyman as well.
Anyways, I'm still on my Clana hi and I haven't felt like this since the first of of Reckoning, as far as it goes for Clana. But over all, best episode, loved the true Smallville drama, and it had most of the originals back on the show, just needed Pete. Anyways, I can rest now about Clana, thank you for closing them properly, and that is still LOVING EACH OTHER. Exhale.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
I'm very sorry some folks could not put aside their ship bias, and preconceived notions here, and see the value in this episode.
I totally agreee!!
Horrible! Just horrible!
This silly boy in the red jacket WILL NEVER BE SUPERMAN!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!
I have to agree. I have always loved Ck, but the CW is making a mockery of this show. I watched the Crap the BtVS people **** out. But, it never went anywhere. After that, I decided a long time ago that Joss Whedon could suck my butt and now, I think the writer/producers of Smallville can do the same thing. If Smallville/CW can't come up with something worthwhile, I can crap out a vote whether I mean it or not.
kszonew
02-05-2009, 09:49 PM
I can't blame you, heck I've been losing interest in this show since season 8 started. I did like Clark's character development from earlier this season, but to me Smallville just isn't Smallville without Michael's portrayal of Lex. While I can understand there is just so much they can do without Michael and his character, I feel like part of the show just doesn't click for me these days.
The Doomsday thing might work. But honestly, DC character of the week or month just doesn't matter me. I'll admit I'm not an avid comic book fan like most here so unless the character is written and acted well, I just don't get a thrill out of it that they do seeing it "brought to life".
To me, I had no problem with Clark and Lana moving on, nor some heartbreak. But the way it was handeled just didn't do it for me, and I don't think bringing them apart by force was necessary. It should have been done in a way where they wanted to go their seperate ways, not forced to do so. That way Clark could move on to the next step in his life, same with Lana. They could be friends offscreen. Instead, Clark seems to be on a path to being forced to choose his destiny, not accepting it because he should.
I look at season 1-7 and I don't choose to just see the Lana obsession of Miles and Gough. I see wonderful takes on characters we know and love. I see wonderful, new additions like Lionel and Chloe. Some nice homages to the comics like Justice and John Jones. I see great stories, some cheese, but a path leading to the Superman we will eventually know. Season 8 started on a positive, even if it was to me more so in concepts and developments, not the actual stories and the overall episodes. Now it seems like things are going in a different direction, a forced one.
I really hope this is the final season, because if there is a ninth and things continue this way I don't think I will stick around for it. I'd rather get a nice, well written tv movie where Welling's Clark accepts his destiny, we get the real Lex back, Lana and Clark can part ways correctly, Chloe finds a place in the world without dying, and Lois and Clark get serious about beginning their eventual relationship. I'm afraid, even if that is how a ninth season ended, the journey there would be way too drastic.
6-Super-Man -5
02-05-2009, 09:51 PM
Wow, is he serious?
No, Season Nine?
BadToad
02-05-2009, 09:52 PM
I know how you feel. This kind of episode was that much of a soul sucker, IMO
I'll watch it until the end, because I am apparently that much of a Tom Welling fan, and a masochist. But the show feels broken to me, in a way that can't be fixed.
tibbit78
02-05-2009, 09:52 PM
I gave this eisode a 7 out of 10. To my own surprise - I actually liked this episode, better than Power. I'm not a Clana shipper, however, the last scene was sadly beautiful. I liked the close-up shoots, photography, and background music. All the actors rocked in this episode. I don't necessarily agreed with the direction that Ollie is heading (killing people), Kryptonite absorbing Lana with super-powers, or Lex dead, but hey....it's Smallville, not Superman, not the comic book, not the cartoon, and certainly not the movies. I want to see how this season (and CK) pans out in March with all that has occurred thus far - cuz CK/TW is why I watch.
I feel the same way. Clark Kent/Tom Welling is why I watch Smallville.
Watching Smallville
02-05-2009, 09:54 PM
And I thought Power was silly. If not for Oliver and Chloe, I would have laughed all the way through this one.
Fish1941
02-05-2009, 09:54 PM
I can not believe what I just saw. For everything I’ve seen Lana and Clark go through for 8 years, and everything I’ve ever read about Lana in comics, I can’t believe PS3 actually ended Lana’s story like this… They made up one stupid idea out of nowhere about Lana getting powers last week, and they’re using that idea to end her whole story?!?!?!!! You have got to be f-cking kidding me.
Now we’re suppose to just know Lana Lang is somewhere out there with powers, we’ll never hear from her again, and accept that as closure to Lana's 8 year story on this show?
Actually, most of this season I thought PS3 were turning things around and improving Al & Miles‘ last few lame years. Hey, I thought Legion was the best episode in 5 years…. But this ending to Lana’s story is so lame, that as a loyal viewer I am truly offended, and now I don’t even want to see how this show ends Clark’s story... So I am done watching Smallville.
This is my final post.
Thanks to all the fans I ever had interesting conversations with on these boards.
Good bye.
Does that mean you don't want to wait for Lois' return?
Firebug
02-05-2009, 09:56 PM
The kids (thanks so much for the broken bed by the way) wanted to watch the show so I watched it. I thought I would be angry to have to see all this Lana crap again but I just felt… nothing. I have gone from being angry last week to not giving a flip at all what Clark decides to do. I have officially lost interest in all of these characters. That’s what happens when a show goes downhill, whether it is Seinfeld, 24, Lost or whatever. You just kind of stop liking the characters and no longer care what happens.
True Superman fans (not me really) should be upset because their superhero has been emasculated. All Lana had to do was pay to have the suit installed and oila! She is just as strong as Superman. She is also 10x better than Clark as she does not have that ridiculous Kryptonite allergy - - thus she has no discernable weakness. It came as no surprise that there was no closure in the Lana realm – they can (and probably will) bring back Lana to screw things up next season on the night before Clark’s wedding to Lois. Clark is now a just a big loser.
Chloe and her quizzical brow have gotten more and more boring as each season passes. In truth, there is not one person other than Lois that interests me as a character any more. I kind of wish they would end Smallville and start a spin-off entitled “Lois in Metropolis”, or something like that. She chases the story and gets into funny situations. Lois is now the only interesting character and also the only funny one. Obviously, Lex is not dead and while you are looking at the burned guy you are simply thinking about how you know that is not MR.
I see everyone raving about the toy guy but I thought he was cheesy too. All I kept thinking was “I wish Supernatural would come on soon.” Now there is a good show that is keeping their rhythm and the characters stay true to form. The personalities change so much on Smallville you cannot really relate to any of the characters. This is now one of those shows that I will catch the tail-end of as I sit down to watch Supernatural. Bummer – another one bites the dust. At least I still have The Unit.
galatians221
02-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Oliver is a murderer, Chloe has abandoned her husband and constantly argues with Clark, Clark continues to hang around the barn moaning over Lana and Lana is Lana. I always thought of Superman as inspirational and uplifting. It's clear that despite showing CK defeating Bizarro and rescuing a father and son from certain death by heat vision that the focus remains on the barn. Clark is a tortured soul, an emotionally weak teenager at heart. He's fought in the Phantom Zone and defeated Zod and Brainiac but always returns to the barn. It's sad to see what the writers have done with the characters on Smallville.
fly'n special
02-05-2009, 09:59 PM
This was a very good ending for CK/LL. I can't believe that even people who didn't like the character of LL were not touched by that last scene. It was one of the best scenes I have seen on Smallville in a long time. TW and KK did a very good job. That was some good acting. Lots of history between those two as characters and as actors. You could tell that by how well they acted that last scene. Cedric don't be too harsh!! I always enjoy your reviews but give them a break will ya?
Vergon6
02-05-2009, 10:00 PM
I liked most of it, but there is some scenes that were just a turn off. I didn't get emotional when Clark tried to walk up to Lana and make-out with her. I just thought Clark looked so pathetic at that moment. And this was after he had the courage to give up his love by saying without hesitation that Lana should absorb the kryptonite from the bombs.
I gave it a 7/10.
Mr.Magic
02-05-2009, 10:02 PM
True Superman fans (not me really) should be upset because their superhero has been emasculated. All Lana had to do was pay to have the suit installed and oila! She is just as strong as Superman. She is also 10x better than Clark as she does not have that ridiculous Kryptonite allergy - - thus she has no discernable weakness.
Not true. Prolonged Kryptonite radiation causes cancer. Lana will be dead within a year in Offscreenville (or she'll get even more powers besides her suit and the *everyoneloveslana* one she gained from wearing that necklace).
quietone
02-05-2009, 10:04 PM
I'll watch it until the end, because I am apparently that much of a Tom Welling fan, and a masochist. But the show feels broken to me, in a way that can't be fixed.
Why does Tom have to be so gorgeous? After tonight that may be the only thing that sustains me till the end.
To me, I had no problem with Clark and Lana moving on, nor some heartbreak. But the way it was handeled just didn't do it for me, and I don't think bringing them apart by force was necessary. It should have been done in a way where they wanted to go their seperate ways, not forced to do so. That way Clark could move on to the next step in his life, same with Lana. They could be friends offscreen. Instead, Clark seems to be on a path to being forced to choose his destiny, not accepting it because he should.
Very well said. The 'Lana is walking kryptonite' angle seems melodramatic and contrived.
kiariclois
02-05-2009, 10:04 PM
I'm very sorry some folks could not put aside their ship bias, and preconceived notions here, and see the value in this episode.
It's not just the ship, it's basically everything! Seriously, GA kills!! And Clark almost kill a soul... Jonathan wouldn't be happy about this
Lana's ready to save the world after just these stupid 4 episodes?? and Clark took like 8 BLOODY YEARS and still NOT ready to do that? Apparently, BDA is way, way dumber than human... I can't believe this man is going to be Superman:mad:
Lex dead. Clana is officially no more. Doomsday is coming. I'm thinking season 8 is the last.
I give this episode a 9. Toyman rules.
cloisthelegendbegins
02-05-2009, 10:08 PM
I know how you feel. This kind of episode was that much of a soul sucker, IMO
I'll watch it until the end, because I am apparently that much of a Tom Welling fan, and a masochist. But the show feels broken to me, in a way that can't be fixed.
You're braver than me BadToad. I'll be watching the next two, maybe three to see if anything can be salvaged from this fiasco but I'm not expecting much AT ALL. I didn't watch eight years worth of this show to see Clark and Lana's relationship end this way. I didn't love the first half of this season as much as I did to have it all thrown down the crapper this way either.
And if the Clark and Lana ending wasn't bad enough - particularly for Clark - we have Green Arrow the murderer, Chloe the murderer and a Clark whose supposed to be looking lovingly at Lois in the near future?! GIVE ME A BREAK.
Even the presence of the Toyman couldn't salvage this episode for me. A 1 - and only 1 cos I couldn't go any lower. Anything good was completely overshadowed by the bad. And I won't be doing a longer review to explain why either. In fact, during yet another break I'll be reclaiming my life and investing much less of my time or money in this show. I just can't pretend this hasn't happened and it's not like we have another eight years to put it right. It's supposed to be closer to the finish line for cryin out loud! This arc was COMPLETELY out of place in the rest of the season. If it had been thrown in at the start I might have coped better, but now it feels like being hit in the face with a very large brick wall. I'm bitterly disappointed. :mad: Where the hell is the Clark from the start of this season?! And right now, as a Lois fan - I don't want him within twenty feet of my girl. Not while he's still grieving! Lois Lane is NO-ONE'S REBOUND GIRL. :mad::mad::mad:
fly'n special
02-05-2009, 10:10 PM
ALlright, this is to everyone who's quitting SV, LISTEN UP!
first, ask yourself" What woudl superman do"
now...(this addreses more than lana fans/nonfans, so ...)
if that is your final post, i want you to think about how superman would feel about a cause he's commited to always..(such as NEVER killing,)
you do realize, that
1. Clark LEARNED ANOTHER DECISION that superman knows when he's come to, that NO MATTER what happns, KILLING is never an option(i'll give you a hint: it's what season 8 is ABOUT, clark learning superman skills, and this is ONE of them)
2. Green Arrow is learning the SAME lesson-which is whu the league will have the no kill rule( hint: even the legion didnt have it)
he'll come arounnd, ITS NOT OVER YET< so ....you're jumping the gun,
OBVIOUSLY
don't lose faith in what hasnt even occured!!!!!
the fat lady did NOT sing, and won,t for a WHILE
3. Chloe is feeling remorse, because she's a good person, and though she agreed with oliver, because his argument seemed perfect at the time, and her guilt got her for a sec.....do you realy think that? i mean, she does the right thing IN THE END, and even HER and oliver, with clear minds ,admitted in the end tht "what would clark do" was the main thing, that being like him was what it's ALL ABOUT..just wait, and you'll see
4. er, Imra never said she'd become a superhero...she'll go on to do ISIS-like things...
she'll settle down, she won't stay a superhero, i feel..
nothing indicates she's a superhero for life...
SHE's likely to hang up the 'cape' and do more down-to-earth work...she'll tire of the superhero role, expecially as another guy.... ;) becomes the #1 hero...and she'll become the great person she's known for
5. Not YET
you're jumping the gun..
i mean, if you had the MAJORITY of smallville fans agreeing, then you might be onto something ,at best..
but, take some time, then realize smallville is a LEGEND, and..
Clark is STILL becoming superman..
remember, uperman and relationships aren't connected...
Several people complained that lois was liking clark TOO early...well guess what? it was the TEASE, to the fun..
because CLOIS isn't official...i mean, CLANA has all this parrying in the early going b4 things got p to shape( so GIVE clios as much time as you gave Clana, otherwise, it wouldnt be fair..)....technically, alicia did too...
Lois's love will be true, and Lana will become a great person..
the powers, ARE NOT that big of a deal....
AND, all that has YET to come anyway, and Clark is DEFINITLY< WITHOUT a doub't TURNING INTO superman
so cheer UP,quit sayign the episode sucked, and enjoy Smallville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i sure am, and i've been watching since season 4
i guess ,i'm a TRUE SV fan, ..
just as i KNOW you are, despite all that you say that might seem contrary
WHY? because i have hope,
;SUPERMAN wouldn;t quit-
just like SUPERMAN always finds the right way to solve problems, and NEVER GIVES UP, .....you really think i'd quit on smallville?
and you wont either
-
-who's with me?
----------------------Sincerely, The Tippership Commander
I am so with you Tippership Commander!! I love Smallville and I will watch it to the end!!! Season 9 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's all just take a breath and sing Kumbaya!;)
kiariclois
02-05-2009, 10:10 PM
HOW IN THE WORLD did Lana get to keep that stupid superpower when in the comics she NEVER even had one! SV Lana is so OTT!
The kids (thanks so much for the broken bed by the way) wanted to watch the show so I watched it. I thought I would be angry to have to see all this Lana crap again but I just felt… nothing. I have gone from being angry last week to not giving a flip at all what Clark decides to do. I have officially lost interest in all of these characters. That’s what happens when a show goes downhill, whether it is Seinfeld, 24, Lost or whatever. You just kind of stop liking the characters and no longer care what happens.
True Superman fans (not me really) should be upset because their superhero has been emasculated. All Lana had to do was pay to have the suit installed and oila! She is just as strong as Superman. She is also 10x better than Clark as she does not have that ridiculous Kryptonite allergy - - thus she has no discernable weakness. It came as no surprise that there was no closure in the Lana realm – they can (and probably will) bring back Lana to screw things up next season on the night before Clark’s wedding to Lois. Clark is now a just a big loser.
Chloe and her quizzical brow have gotten more and more boring as each season passes. In truth, there is not one person other than Lois that interests me as a character any more. I kind of wish they would end Smallville and start a spin-off entitled “Lois in Metropolis”, or something like that. She chases the story and gets into funny situations. Lois is now the only interesting character and also the only funny one. Obviously, Lex is not dead and while you are looking at the burned guy you are simply thinking about how you know that is not MR.
I see everyone raving about the toy guy but I thought he was cheesy too. All I kept thinking was “I wish Supernatural would come on soon.” Now there is a good show that is keeping their rhythm and the characters stay true to form. The personalities change so much on Smallville you cannot really relate to any of the characters. This is now one of those shows that I will catch the tail-end of as I sit down to watch Supernatural. Bummer – another one bites the dust. At least I still have The Unit.
Very well put. I am a Superman fan (and Welling and Lois Lane fan), so - sadly - will watch until the bitter end.
I wish I was able to walk away.... as a TV show, the quality has declined and they focus too much on characters that can't carry the show. And the ones that liven up the show (Lois, et al) they either ruin or have them disappear.
Damn, that's right, there was an episode that choked me up. Clark holding Martha and crying after seeing the video of his dad. This episode, no, I admit it made me laugh. It was way over the top melodrama and far from Clana closure, it leaves the door open for some miraculous "cure" and them being together again. Are we to believe Clois after this? Yeah, right. They're about to be married and Lana shows up at their wedding and says she's cured. "LANA!!!" :lol:
Yeah... I can definitely see that being the series finale. And, then, credits roll while Clark looks from Lana to Lois, with his brow furrowed in confusion. LOL
drew24
02-05-2009, 10:15 PM
1/10 - My reason for giving this a 1 is because the production should have made this kind of plot 2-3 season ago. The ending granted was "dramatic" but it was pathetic for a Clark Kent who suppose to be at this stage of his life should be stronger emotionally, it looks as if his character has regress so much it's pathetic. Yes its "dramatic" but it's not convincing anymore. For me at this point in time it seems the writers and producers just forced this issue to break Clark and Lana...they've ruined what could have been a much better relationship for Lana and Clark where Lana should have been Clarks best friend and confidant. Prolonging the Clark and Lana relationship like they did for the past 2-3 season ruined the whole Clark to Superman transition. Yes I'm a Mytho kind of guy but I was open for any changes they make and made in Smallville since they started really promising, but they failed miserably with Lana and Clark.
Saturn Girl
02-05-2009, 10:18 PM
I gave it a 4. It's going to take some work to get Clark loving Lois in a way that supersedes his love for Lana.
I really didn't like Lana having to tell Clark that killing Lex would be the wrong thing to do. Clark knows full well that killing is out for him.
jjsmallvillelvr
02-05-2009, 10:23 PM
*I think the toyman is a petifile.
*I can't beleive Ollie killed Lex and that Lex is actually dead, he's sposed to be around when superman is, and there is no superman yet
*and i cried at the end. that was the most painful and passionate clana scene ever.
----- Added 4 Minutes later -----
Yeah... I can definitely see that being the series finale. And, then, credits roll while Clark looks from Lana to Lois, with his brow furrowed in confusion. LOL
lol hed pick lana!:)
pizzahead2490
02-05-2009, 10:29 PM
this was aweful
jjsmallvillelvr
02-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Yeah... I can definitely see that being the series finale. And, then, credits roll while Clark looks from Lana to Lois, with his brow furrowed in confusion. LOL
lol he'd pick lana!:)
Plastic Man
02-05-2009, 10:37 PM
I think the ep had some good 'moments'. I liked the reminiscing Clark and Lana did about the necklace and the final loft scene was really good. Toyman was REALLY creepy and the Ollie story fit right along with his comic persona.
But let's face it... the Lana w/powers angle was Extremely stupid. All it ended up doing was taking any dignity away from them saying their final goodbyes. It could have ended with Lana nobly leaving Clark with everything said between them and both of them moving forward. We were left with the impression that these two characters would ALWAYS be looking back at this.
I think the writers really dropped the ball in this aspect and really put a wet blanket on what was probably the best overall season I can think of.
Justin Murad
02-05-2009, 10:40 PM
The final scene was awesome! I cried. :D
Jason316316
02-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Okay everyone. What has happened to Smallville. If this is the end of the show, they are screwing everything up. I dont know why you guys this the ending was sad. the ending was ridiculous. After all this Lex was "killed" by a Oliver with a toy monkey. What the heck people. I was laughing at the end. This season has so many positives. I was waiting for Lex to show up, and what do we get, him supposedly dying. Oliver/Lex, NO NO NO. Should be clark and Lex. That makes NO SENSE. I was at Comic Con, and I heard that they were going to make Clark so much more powerful this season. No Lois, Jimmy, or Davis. And shouldnt Chloe be at Jimmy's side. and how did Lex survive the Artic falling on him. And Davis, has been built up this season so well, then we havnet seen him for like 3 episodes and instead we get this Lana crap.
I hate the say this. I think this show just may need to end. Im sorry Smallville.
kiariclois
02-05-2009, 10:43 PM
lol he'd pick lana!:)
Of course he will. He's the Clark "DUMB" Kent! He didn't deserve Lois :(
pizzahead2490
02-05-2009, 10:48 PM
Of course he will. He's the Clark "DUMB" Kent! He didn't deserve Lois :(
agreed:mad:
Justin Murad
02-05-2009, 10:50 PM
A lot of people stood their TV couches by thinking 'This episode will be a disaster. I don't even want to watch it.' or 'This episode has Lana. Eww!'
Those who gave 1 points were programmed theirselves to hate this episode. I'm sorry but this episode deserved 7 - 10. Do you really think it's the worst episode ever? I don't think so... Specially the last scene was hilarious!
Watching Smallville
02-05-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm confused. The last scene was "hilarious" and that makes it a good ep? lol! wasn't it supposed to be tragic?
Imzadia
02-05-2009, 10:55 PM
If you're too young to remember the comedian Jack Benny, then you may not be able to visualize my 'Initial' response to "Requiem". I said "Well!" Then I crossed my arms over my chest and gently slapped my cheek with one hand and continued to stare at the TV screen after it was over for more than a minute.
I'm sorry, but I can't even Vote in this poll yet. My facial muscles got paralyzed the moment the first scene after the opening credits was revealed. My limbs went limp and I just feel NUMB. I sat and watcned this episode in silence, and as Sad and Heartbreaking and Beautiful as that Last scene was between Clark and Lana, I didn't even get 'misty eyed'. I'll be back in a couple of days after viewing this episode again. I CAN'T give a fair review of what I thought about "Requiem" tonight.
I skimmed through all of you guy's comments, but I'm Stupified or Numb as I've said earlier. I've even convinced myself that it'll be alright.
Smallvilledabest
02-05-2009, 10:56 PM
10 Simply the best episode in the series. Love Lana and always will. I like Lois too.
InAFlash
02-05-2009, 10:58 PM
I thought this episode was well done, a fitting end to Clana. I guess what the writers are saying is that Clark and Lana belong together, but can never be together. The final act was very moving and well acted. Bravo to Tom and Kristin. I will surely miss seeing Kristin on Smallville.
I also enjoyed the Toyman. Chris Gauthier did a great job. I recognized him from a small part he played in Delete.
Tinyeppy
02-05-2009, 11:02 PM
I'm so upset on how they ended Clana. Kyptonite infected, self sacrificing Lana. I just wanted a normal it's over peroid not this I'm near you & die crap. With all the 8yrs of Clana & this ended how am I suppose to ever believe Clark will ever love Lois more then Lana. I personally don't see how. This story as stupid and riduculous as it was just proves that Clana still adore each other & can't be together b/c of the kyptonite infection. TPTB have spend so much time glorifing CLANA that I have lost all hope that CLOIS will ever mean anything.
I personally don't want CLOIS starting at all. CK isn't going to get over this for a while & that's if he ever does. A person love only once truly powerfully and I just don't see how in so limited time will TPTB make me ever believe that Clark Kent loves Lois Lane more then Lana Lang.
My Greatest Love has CLANA Coodies all over it. YUCK!
Again I see Lois as 2nd best & 2 choice, Lana a torn in Clois, Clark will prefer Lana, Clark feeling vengeful with Clana. I see Clana out shining Clois. Lois always questioning his love.
PS3 have potrayed this Clana storyline as if they are soulmates & true love. I'm sorry but you can't change the fact that they have it all wrong and just made an obstalce that's will always be there in CLOIS (DOUBT).
Clark Kent doesn't deserve Lois Lane on Smallville.
Khyla
02-05-2009, 11:06 PM
I thought the end was quite tragic. But give it time and Clark will look back one day and realize that it wasn't so much Lana, herself, that he didn't want to let go of, but the deep desire to have a companion by his side, to work with, share with, and love. He will find the right person someday:
...I've never bought into that whole "you never get over your first love" bull, the point is you do get over them, and more often then not you look back at your behavior with that person and wonder what made them SO wonderful to begin with.
I couldn't agree more!
clanaluva4Life
02-05-2009, 11:07 PM
the episode was the greates Smallville ever it brought JOY and SORROW, the Bedroom Sex was AWESOME!!!!!!!! Clark always looks so at ease when he is making love to His woman Lana Lang!!!! the two of them should have stayed in Bed whole episode and destroy the Barn from Nonstop Kryptonian/Super Girl SEX SEX SEX
shlyish
02-05-2009, 11:11 PM
I liked the epi.
I loved the Clana.
I liked the Chloe and Oliver.
Didnt care for the look-a-like Michael as Lex... but for a moment there when Lex was talking to Clana.. and they were shooting close up to his eye.. I thought he was gonna cry. :-/
clanaluva4Life
02-05-2009, 11:11 PM
but after Joy is SORROW because a Lifeless burned upBald Headed Eagle has Notthing to do with his Life so why not make a Bom full of krypto huh? why not destroy Clana huh? i despise lex Luthor that sad man . Clana made me bawl and cry so much i cried an cried an cried untill my head almost burst i will never forget this EPISODE REQUIEM for it has been the BEST EVER the best EVER AMEN! CLANA FOREVER AMEN!
kryptotrite
02-05-2009, 11:13 PM
Beautiful, heartbreaking ending to an amazing couple. They are still in love...
Lex is truly a baddie.
Ollie..a vigilante. Chloe is torn. WOW, what an ep!!
Bye, Kristin Kreuk...sad to see you go!
Tom's acting was off-the-charts amazing!
Bre723
02-05-2009, 11:14 PM
I gave it a 9.
And I'm not hardcore Clana either.
I love the way the toyman was introduced, the first scene was spectacular.
He was a very great actor.
I liked the Clana, it wasn't terrible.
I really didn't think that I was cry, buuuut, i did get teary, i couldn't help myself!
It was sooo sad.
I was a truly heartfelt beautiful scene.
And so well acted, i think that is something that everyone can agree on.
That last kiss, words escape me.
I didn't think Clark was a wussie or whatever for wanted to be w/ the woman he loves.
You always remember your first love, and that was Lana for Clark.
And to not be able to see or touch her again, no matter if it's real or not, THAT SUCKS!
But besides the Clana, I thought Oliver was very interesting.
And the ring at the end????
reminds me of lex w/ the kryptonite ring, i just hope they continue w/ it and don't just forget about it and never mention it again...lame.
All in all this was a good episode, Clana or no Clana.
Oh and P.S. I thought the bedroom scene was cute ;).
Motx-EL
02-05-2009, 11:15 PM
Man!.. i actually hated the "clark-lana" relationship, but that end scene was so rude!!, that felt soooooooo real!! the episode in general was quite bad!, bud that scene was really amazing, just my opinion!!
Toyman ROCKED!! nice casting!!
Oliver being the bad guy? Chloe in one second was a good girl, in the other a bad one, ;/ thats really strange, i dont really understand why clark still give orders to she, when he cleared his memory and didnt even told that to chole!!
btw.. what happens with Doomsday? :/ he leaved the fortress and went to hawaii for vacations? :S...
drvr8
02-05-2009, 11:30 PM
I liked the episode but I had no sympathy for Lana and Clark and I'm not a Clana Fan. I hated Power, the idea Lana is superpower worthy was ridiculous to me and seeing her have to suffer for deciding to take on those powers was worth it. The dark turns Oliver and Chloe took were really interesting and well acted by AM & JH and the Toyman was decently creepy, slightly campy but true to the comic book character. The Lexalike was ok, but really wonderful that he was the one who outsmarted Lana by designing the suit to ultimately make her deadly to Clark. I enjoy tragedy though...Empire was the best of the trilogy...plus the end of the episodes like Pariah and Reckoning were some of my favorites. I think this episode didn't really hold up to those because they took away the decisions from Clark and gave them to Lana. The show is based on Clark though and to have him so passive over the last 2 episodes was annoying for his journey.
But I definitely did not hate the episode like I thought I would.
kiariclois
02-05-2009, 11:32 PM
A lot of people stood their TV couches by thinking 'This episode will be a disaster. I don't even want to watch it.' or 'This episode has Lana. Eww!'
Those who gave 1 points were programmed theirselves to hate this episode. I'm sorry but this episode deserved 7 - 10. Do you really think it's the worst episode ever? I don't think so... Specially the last scene was hilarious!
This is where you are very wrong. NOT all are about the "ship". It's the fact that Clark seems so powerless when Lana was around. Now Lana seems to be the one who is the "savior" of the Earth instead of Clark. Hell. It took Clark 8 YEARS and counting to be ready for the burden of saving the Earth and Lana takes like 4 episodes. How do you make of that?!! This isn't just about the Clana. This is about Super-freaking-MAN!
Not only that, but he's back to the bit of ALMOST killing a MAN! Superman does NOT approve of killing!
I really don't care about the Clana sex to give this episode a 1, it's basically the WHOLE thing.
I'm a HUGE Kristin fan and what they're giving her is CRAP!
ginnyfan
02-05-2009, 11:32 PM
Ok I'm watching it again because I was seriously going to give it a 1.
Good
Cute Clana.
Martha and Jonathan mention.
Surly bloodthirsty Oliver.
Toyman.
Little version of Daily Planet with rotating globe.
Oliver flirting with cute nurse
Oliver/Chloe scenes
Chloe/Clark argument
Clana Necklace scene
Oliver beating Toyman and "bobo" and breaking fingers
What I imagine Lex' original plan was
Cute nurse
Toyman's outfit
Lana saying Lex's name
The poetic justice of Lex ending Clana forever
Chlollie murder conversation
Oliver's vengeance filled black eyes
Chlana hug. Daddylion's gonna love it. <3
Last Clana Loft scene... maybe.
Clana ends to save the world?
Bad
Happy Clana without addressing the many problems with their relationship.
Exposition Chloe
Darth Vader faux Lex Luthor
Clark lecturing Chloe about killing people
The way I zone out when Clark and Lana are talking.
Clexana
The fact that Kara Kent could probably have diffused the bomb with her heat vision
The fact that if Clark could bear the pain of all the Kryptonite long enough to kiss Lana, he probably could bear it enough to diffuse the bomb.
The stupidity of Lex ending Clana forever.
Clark deciding to kill Lex after the lecture he gave Chloe.
Lana convincing Clark not to kill Lex... or attempting to.
Lex in a moving truck.
Chlollie murder conversation
Heroic Lana Speeches
Clana ends to save the world!
Ok... let me look this over...
I give it a 6.
Antihero
02-05-2009, 11:37 PM
I found the whole SuperLana story arc stupid and unnecessary. The way things ended in season's 7 finale brought reasonable closure to the Clana relationship. It was all plausible from any standpoint. It was a good way for Lana and Lex to exit the series.
I knew they had to bring Lana back at some point but there was no real need to revisit Clana at all. KK is not a bad actress, she's charismatic and capable... it's the Lana character that is no longer appealing. Besides, they had done an excellent job of building Clois this season.
I could do without Lex since Michael is not available to play him. Bring him back only if Michael decides to come back. If not, there are plenty of loose ends the producers could concentrate on as well as many untapped resources.
The Toy guy was lame and not scary at all. Chloe should start working full time for Oliver and only help Clark occasionally. They definitely know what's best for Clark and seem to be in touch with common sense.
Hopefully we will be able to move on from all this nonsense and new things can start happening. I really enjoy the show more when Clark acts like an adult, which sadly is impossible whenever Lana is around.
kiariclois
02-05-2009, 11:43 PM
Well said Antihero. I agree that the SuperLana story arc are stupid and way way unnecessary. I was hoping to see Kristin's final epi would make it worthy but it's far from that. She made Clark looks pathetic...
but hey, I reckon next epi, Clark would be like "nothing happen" and move on after the whole emotional rollercoaster... way to go PS3
jaydee85
02-05-2009, 11:51 PM
I feel so bad that I hated the last 2 episodes. I have loved this season so far but really this was just BAD. There had to be a better way for Lana to say goodby. Nothing feels right with the show lately. How can Lois ever compete with a super powered ex?
drvr8
02-06-2009, 12:00 AM
How can Lois ever compete with a super powered ex?
Because when Lana popped up, Lois was mature enough and cares about Clark enough to step aside and allow Clark to be a fool on his own. Lois is a selfless character, fearless and driven, without superpowers and ultimately is capable of fully loving Clark because she loves herself for who she is and not the psuedo bionic woman that we saw exit the series tonight.
mjc928
02-06-2009, 12:06 AM
I really dont know how to feel.... I did like the guy the got for the toyman though, talk about kinda crazy. I agree with everyone that said the last scene was well acted. If lex is really dead then I like how his last act was to tear clana apart... though I dont like the fact that clana will never be truely resolved. They both want to stay together but cant because of something out of their control. I dont feel it resolves anthing. I dont want to sound mean but the Im glad lana is gone just so ck can stop acting so weak... At any rate. I gave the ep a 4 only becasue I think they couldve concluded the clana ship with a resolution. Wasnt this supposed to be the episode for that?
justsuper
02-06-2009, 12:07 AM
Requiem was much, much better than I expected! Especially after "Power." I think it was a nice tribute to Clark and Lana's long relationship. Had I wished the writers had not embarked on this Lana arc? Of course...but fortunately, Requiem salvaged the carnage that Power had wrought. I think Season 8 was really kicking some butt until Power - but you know no one's perfect and I can forgive one bad episode in a truly awesome season.
Smallville rose from the ashes this week and I think we are in for an awesome string of episodes with Infamous, Welling-directed Hex, and Stilletto. Long live Smallville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kiariclois
02-06-2009, 12:08 AM
without superpowers and ultimately is capable of fully loving Clark because she loves herself for who she is and not the psuedo bionic woman that we saw exit the series tonight.
ehe... I wonder if Lois will be the one who he had sex with without granting her the "power", like in the comics... The Clana sex only happen when they're both mortal and superpowered.
skugers
02-06-2009, 12:10 AM
that was the end of smallville for me. definitely not going to watch with the same joy and excitement...
F-Stop Blues
02-06-2009, 12:13 AM
This proves that Smallville has absolutely no ties to canonical Superman lore. For all we know SV Clark never becomes Superman. I was always under the impression that the show had to stick to the three basic rules of Superman.
1. Clark becomes Superman.
2. Lex and Clark are enemies forever.
3. Clark ends up with Lois, his true love.
Clearly the way his relationship with Lana "ends" does not make Lois his true love. He is settling for her and that is disgusting. How can DC comics let Smallville operate like this. They are ruining the core of the mythos, not to mention that the fact that they killed Lex. It was stupid, contrived, and pointless.
As a superman fan, this episode was awful, absolutely awful. As a casual fan of the series who knows nothing of Superman I would have probably liked this episode as it was very gut wrenching and the characters had to make some tough decisions. Unfortunately everything that happened in this episode contradicts what Superman is all about.
ss2cire
02-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Hi all! This is my first posting so, be gentle =)
I have to admit when they brought back the Clark/Lana relationship I was a bit urked but I'm now glad it's over.
I gave the episode an 8 because I think most people are just being too harsh, it was a closer for the Clark/Lana relationship (no matter how much it needs to be "really resolved"). And I agree, the ending scene was well acted.
I also liked the casting for Toyman (wasn't he on the show "Lost"?)
Anyway, I can't wait for the next few episodes... they should be interesting!
Vergon6
02-06-2009, 12:19 AM
Hi all! This is my first posting so, be gentle =)
I have to admit when they brought back the Clark/Lana relationship I was a bit urked but I'm now glad it's over.
I gave the episode an 8 because I think most people are just being too harsh, it was a closer for the Clark/Lana relationship (no matter how much it needs to be "really resolved"). And I agree, the ending scene was well acted.
I also liked the casting for Toyman (wasn't he on the show "Lost"?)
Anyway, I can't wait for the next few episodes... they should be interesting!
Welcome to Kryptonsite :). The last scene was well acted. I just didn't like the way Clark was portrayed in that particular scene.
Bre723
02-06-2009, 12:21 AM
I can't believe all the ones!!!!
I think it deserves so much better, but oh well.
Kalista
02-06-2009, 12:25 AM
they focus too much on characters that can't carry the show.
Right. :rolleyes:
Bre723
02-06-2009, 12:28 AM
Oh another thing i liked/found interesting.
When Clark went to the scene of Lex's "death" and did that thing he always does when someone dies with the dirt in his hands.
I thought it was a nice moment.
I also liked it when Chloe mentioned to Clark that Lex wasn't the man that he saved on a bridge 8 years ago.
dezperado
02-06-2009, 12:46 AM
Gave it a 7. I guess I'll keep watching. Who am I kidding...no matter what woulda went down in this episode I'd still keep watching. But let it be known, I'm not pleased with the last 4 episodes. I'm just glad we're moving on...HOPEFULLY!
Vergon6
02-06-2009, 12:47 AM
Gave it a 7. I guess I'll keep watching. Who am I kidding...no matter what woulda went down in this episode I'd still keep watching. But let it be known, I'm not pleased with the last 4 episodes. I'm just glad we're moving on...HOPEFULLY!
I agree.
pizzahead2490
02-06-2009, 12:57 AM
i cannot wait for cedric review... if he can bear ti write it. i just know he is gonna voice my opnion well.
obsessedwithsv
02-06-2009, 01:03 AM
Wow, I thought things couldn't get any more rediculous after Power, PS3 continue to exceed my expectations (not in a good way).
Thank you PS3 for ruining the only chance you had at putting Clana to rest properly. Now we're meant to believe this 'hero' falls head over heels for Lois who becomes the love his life? Clana is not meant to be epic, Clois is. You knew introducing Lois would give rise to expectations of Clois and if you knew all you were going to do was ride the Clana train why the heck did you bother introducing her? You could have saved a lot of these shippers heartbreak but instead chose to rub it in their faces with no real closure at all.
Counting down the days till March 5th when some sense might get knocked back into the show, though I highly doubt it with the incompetent fools behind this whole debacle still with pen in hand.
KSiteTV
02-06-2009, 01:07 AM
I have to say, as forced and contrived as "Lana is literal kryptonite for Clark" could be, the last 3 minutes or so, the final "Clana scene" as it were, had some of the best work done by Tom Welling and Kristin Kreuk together in the series. Kristin conveyed such emotion that you could believe it and believe Lana, and the callback to the pilot was a nice touch.
I still don't really like the way they concluded "Clana" and feel that the ending kind of cheapens any future relationship Clark may have. I guess I wished Clark and Lana would part, peacefully, as friends. But ending in this manner just will make it so they're never over each other - and the reasoning is kind of silly. Why not plea to Jor-El (again?) Or why not get a lead containment unit around Lana so they can at least hang out?
Also, surprisingly, I was expecting to hate the dark turn Oliver has taken, and I came out of the episode liking it - especially the bit with the Kryptonite ring.
It is so clear to me Lex isn't gone, though I REALLY wish they had gotten Michael's voice for this one.
So, not as bad as I expected prior to watching it... I'd probably give it a 7/10.
Though that bedroom scene should've taken away some points right there, though. Did we really need that?
So, yeah. I'm glad this arc is over but at least I wasn't bored like I was with "Power." And Toyman was rather unpleasant and creepy - just like he should be.
And why is it that not once did anyone mention Jimmy, or when they went to the Planet, there was no comment of "good thing Lois is off tonight" or something like that? Is this in an alternate universe where they never existed?
kiariclois
02-06-2009, 01:18 AM
And why is it that not once did anyone mention Jimmy, or when they went to the Planet, there was no comment of "good thing Lois is off tonight" or something like that? Is this in an alternate universe where they never existed?
You mean, anyone in this forum or anyone in the show? :p
tibbit78
02-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Hi all! This is my first posting so, be gentle =)
I have to admit when they brought back the Clark/Lana relationship I was a bit urked but I'm now glad it's over.
I gave the episode an 8 because I think most people are just being too harsh, it was a closer for the Clark/Lana relationship (no matter how much it needs to be "really resolved"). And I agree, the ending scene was well acted.
I also liked the casting for Toyman (wasn't he on the show "Lost"?)
Anyway, I can't wait for the next few episodes... they should be interesting!
Welcome, Ss2cire.
viion
02-06-2009, 01:35 AM
best episode everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
eyeceman
02-06-2009, 01:36 AM
.......that's gonna be a future twist. Son of Superman.......Clana forever! No way to credibly go into Clois now....she will forever be secondary. This heroic send off was what LL and KK deserved for all that they have given the show.
Personally though, w/ no Lana and no Lex they really need to incorporate some Justice League episodes...or just end this show......Smallville is no more w/o Lana and Lex and Martha and Jonathan and so on.......the rest of the story is Metropolis.
Clana 4ever baby!!!!
Vergon6
02-06-2009, 01:39 AM
And why is it that not once did anyone mention Jimmy, or when they went to the Planet, there was no comment of "good thing Lois is off tonight" or something like that? Is this in an alternate universe where they never existed?
It must be ;).
Antihero
02-06-2009, 01:45 AM
Clearly the way his relationship with Lana "ends" does not make Lois his true love. He is settling for her and that is disgusting. How can DC comics let Smallville operate like this. They are ruining the core of the mythos, not to mention that the fact that they killed Lex. It was stupid, contrived, and pointless.
As a superman fan, this episode was awful, absolutely awful. As a casual fan of the series who knows nothing of Superman I would have probably liked this episode as it was very gut wrenching and the characters had to make some tough decisions. Unfortunately everything that happened in this episode contradicts what Superman is all about.
Thank you for pointing this out. You could not be more correct... They have gone out of their way to ruin everything that made Superman's story so special.
However, I still see some opportunities to put things back on track and allow Clark to evolve and get closer to the mythos that us true Superman fans prefer to follow.
Lois is already in love with Clark, and Clark was ready to accept his feelings for her. This can quickly be reinforced by a well-edited video package just to get us in the mood for Clois again.
The fact that Lex seems to be out of the picture could also give the writers a chance to refresh the character and bring him back being closer to his comics counterpart.
As stupid as the whole SuperLana thing is, that could easily be fixed with a trip to the Fortress once Doomsday is banished and Jor-El's presence is restored. They obviously should wait until Clois is on full swing so that they can give Clark the chance to properly say goodbye to Lana. Better yet, that could be saved for the final episodes so we won't be distracted anymore by Clana shenanigans.
dezperado
02-06-2009, 01:57 AM
Honestly, I'm dealing with it and moving on; as will the series. But...now that the Clark/Lana storyline is over; may I ask, what the HELL was PS3 thinking? How could they do something with Smallville that the fans were so blatently against? I understand TPTB may not even view these forums, but they have to know that the majority of us are not happy. Now this is a catch 22 because "us" or "we" may be pissed at the direction they've taken the storyline with absolute no regard for continuity or mythos quality, but yet we will continue to view the show because it is our only option for Superman at the moment and ultimately none of us want the show to end...yet. So we have to keep wathcing. Just to keep the ratings up enough to keep the show on the air. (Which is amazing to me. The damn show has been on for 8 years, and is one of the highest rated shows the CW/WB has ever had; yet they can't guarantee a 9th season? A no-brainer in my opinion. CW- not all your shows have to be high school drama!!! Even high school kids would admit that!) But back to the point, what were they thinking? Why don't they step up and explain themselves? The Lana storyline, the lack of continuity, the fact that we're just supposed to accept that Lois is still in Capitol city or Star city or wherever with Jimmy while Chloe is living alone in Smallville above the Talon still? The true lack of explanations on how Clark truly becomes Superman? This show has/had emmence potential for a true primetime-big-hitter show, yet rarely meets it potential. I know I'm preaching to the choir, I just wish the choir directors would read our scriptures!
kiariclois
02-06-2009, 02:00 AM
.......that's gonna be a future twist. Son of Superman.......Clana forever! No way to credibly go into Clois now....she will forever be secondary. This heroic send off was what LL and KK deserved for all that they have given the show.
Personally though, w/ no Lana and no Lex they really need to incorporate some Justice League episodes...or just end this show......Smallville is no more w/o Lana and Lex and Martha and Jonathan and so on.......the rest of the story is Metropolis.
Clana 4ever baby!!!!
Yeah, pregnant with a kryptonite-affected baby who Clark will never ever be able to touch ever. :rolleyes:
Smallville is also Lois' Nickname for Clark, even in the comics...
Mightymouse
02-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I was a bit inebriated while watching this.. but the end just made me ball my eyes out. I was literally begging the screen for them to say "I love you".. If they didn't, I would've been really pissed..
I've watched this show since the very first episode. I was raised a fan of Superman.. And I've loved just about every thing about this show.. They have such refreshing and creative takes on the story of Clark Kent's formidable years before he became Superman..
This ending was crushing.. All I could think about was how huge of a douche Lex is. This really sets the stage for what a heartless, evil genius, Lex Luthor is. I think this was a great move by the writers to establish just how incredibly bad Lex is.. It also served as a great way to further define the relationship of lex with clark as his one true arch nemesis. This isn't small potatoes.. this is big time. Lex destroyed one of Clark's few things that he takes for himself.
If you were a true fan of this show, from day one.. to know this was the last time Lana and Clark would face eachother, should FLOOR you.. I don't get this pretentious hatred there is for the "CLANA" relationship. It is a bit annoying to see them bounce back and forth in their feelings for eachother, but the pure animosity I see on this forum for their relationship is appalling, and overblown, in my opinion.
By the way.. those that are arguing that this wasn't a clean enough break for CLana so Clark could fairly move on towards Lois.. Just remember, as the saying goes, "No one gets over their first love". ...
So deal.
omegadirective
02-06-2009, 02:19 AM
too bad there isn't an option for zero points.
After this episode, Jimmy is the only decent guy on the show.
Mightymouse
02-06-2009, 02:21 AM
It must be ;).
It's called "there's only so much you can fit into a 40 minute television slot"..
Geez.. give them a break..
All in due time.. in due time..
Dominicus
02-06-2009, 02:21 AM
Agreed, they need to make this right, but I would want another season anyway to see where this goes. Hell, even a tenth season, by then MR will realize there's no work for actors like him and come back to smallville! lol it's a hope anyway. But Clois should be together and I want to see if they have the guts to explore the baby thing with Clois, if it's possible. LnC touched on the subject, but was cancelled before they had a chance to dwelve more into the subject. I want to see superman with the cape flying around saving everybody. I want them to stall the doomsday arc, develop it a bit more. And I want full closure of Lana.
amberdawn
02-06-2009, 02:27 AM
Just remember, as the saying goes, "No one gets over their first love". ...
I sure got over mine. That sh** doesn't fly with me.
I hated it. That's all I have to say.
DGirlLois4Clark
02-06-2009, 02:32 AM
I give it a one. the worst possible ending for clana. whilst lana 'sacrifices' herself for Clark, he does nothing to help her and will soon be 'moving on' in a few episodes. stupid episode, stupid writing and character assassination for both Clark and Lana.
I for one will delete 'bulletproof', 'power' and 'requiem' from MY personal smallville canon. What a waste of 3 weeks.:lol:
Xanderman
02-06-2009, 02:54 AM
For years fans have been saying that Lana has been like a poison to Clark. Now she literally is...lol.
Great episode I thought, despite forever ruining Clois. lol Lana is clearly the love of Clark's life. It's only because they were forced apart that Clark "ends up" with Lois. Oh well, too bad Cloisers. Lana is the undisputed champ. heh
The office blowing up in the teaser reminded me of Spider-Man, when Green Goblin took out the executives that betrayed him.
Lana and Clark staring at each other in bed, the earth-shaking sex, we've seen this before--especially the staring-in-bed. Overkill. Smallville is still so repetitive, even to this day.
The Toyman stuff seemed a bit cheesy in the early going, sort of like how Lois & Clark: TNAS handled its villains. I also thought he was a bit too old, but whatever. (He also looked like somebody who belonged on something more like That 70's Show...a little too hippie-ish if you ask me. heh) I laughed out loud at Oliver's corny joke about him, "That's when I realized Winslow was thinking a little too far outside the toy box". lol Another corny/cheesy part, but not funny, was later when restrained Oliver was able to grab him close to his bed--why do the bad guys always have to be so dumb.
What's with Clark's obsession with (or fetish for) running dirt/ashes through his hands/fingers? Lol he did it where he thought Lex was torched (and I'm pretty sure he did it at least twice before on the show). I guess that was Clark's funeral for Lex. lol
If Lana is so radioactive now, NOBODY should be safe around her, not just Clark. lol I mean green k MUTATES people. And yet she sat right next to Chloe at the end there, as if neither had a care in the world. lol By the way, when Lana grabbed the bomb, the glowing and other effects, and her putting her head up the way she did, was all overly reminiscent to me of when Lana touched that symbol in Paris in Crusade. Repetitive Smallville strikes again.
And to prove to us that doing the same thing over and over is truly in their blood, they ended the ep with Lana walking away from Clark one last time, in the barn, crying her eyes out. For like the millionth time. So it seems that instead of Clark and Lana ending because they're not right for each other or that Clark has grown up or changed, it's because of circumstances (star-crossed lovers). Outstanding work, powers-that-be-in-love-with-Lana/Kristin Kreuk.
Another thing I found funny--so apparently Lana Lang is the reason Clark learns that killing is wrong, even if it's someone as evil as Lex. Lol she talked him out of it. All-knowing, wiser than wise Lana strikes again, and hopefully for the last time. Lana is clearly responsible for Superman. lol That is the producers'/writers' final gift to us.
Anyway, I still really enjoyed the episode, it was very entertaining. This and last week's were not nearly as bad as many seem to think they were in my opinion (there have been far worse eps this year), but oh well. I gave this one a 10, last week's an 8. (Clark/Clois/Superman etc are ruined forever, sure, but that doesn't mean the episode wasn't a good time either way. heh)
amberdawn
02-06-2009, 02:56 AM
He also looked like somebody who belonged on something more like That 70's Show.
I also thought that. "Geez dude, it's not the 70's anymore" :lol:
What's with Clark's obsession with (or fetish for) running dirt/ashes through his hands/fingers?
:rotfl:
FLyxNERD
02-06-2009, 03:32 AM
loved this episode...one of my favs this season..but i would of preferred lana being kryptonite infected and no powers
ellives
02-06-2009, 03:33 AM
4th one, Let's go!
As this being KK's last episode, I'll give kudos for her wonderful acting job playing as 'the girl next door' Lana Lang. Wish her the best of luck.
As for the episode itself. It got a respectable seven from me. The episode flowed really well despite some parts which seemed lacking any progression.
The Luthorcorp meeting was very well played out as I always knew Lex wasn't the only one in charge, there had to be a board of some sort not that it matters and did the Luthorcorp building change? I don't remember it being so wide.
Tackle the chunk: Clark and Lana, i think i can safely say that there is absolutely no way that they could have brought any new ideas to the relationship. Seriously they've had every twist and turn imaginable and now he can't even touch her which seems to be infinite. It's sad that Clark can't move on... It's always hard to say goodbye and that's why he never does it.
There are parallels compared to when Clark continues/hopes to see the good side in Lex and everyone else tells him the Lex he once knew is no more yet he refuses to believe that he's turned bad and he can't let it go.
Speaking of Lex, if MR came back and did that scene. It would've been awesome even if he came back for that one and only scene. That would've been a great scene. His intro about choosing destiny could've been better played out if MR was there. No offense to the actor playing him, it's just there could only be one Lex and in SV that's MR.
One of Clark's ugly flaws showed its face again. "I thought I could trust you, Chloe."
*WTFWTF?*
How many _______ times is he going throw that in her face? I can't recall Chloe ever betraying Clark? Has it even happened or is Clark just waiting for the moment to happen. I feel very sorry for Chloe because she cares so much about Clark and he apparently thinks of her as a liability more than a friend. What an idiot! Grow up!
Oliver is The Dark Knight. Hahahah. His character went dark in a flash. (no JL pun intended) Which is not necessarily a bad thing. His character needed depth and he got it with the revenge theme he had set out at the start of the season when he found out Lex killed his parents. Sadly though, I don't he fully understands the ramifications of what he did and he's only bound for a major downfall yet to come.
Toyman was the FOTW. Seriously though, the character development on some of these mythology characters are appalling. To me, Toyman is a major villain in the Superman Mythos and they made him weak and unimportant.
Luthor. Trust me when I say this: The fat lady hasn't sung yet, and what was funny about this episode was that he was riding in the back of semi-truck? really? a back of a semi-truck? All those Luthorcorp top secret labs out there and that's the best they could come up with...
So in conclusion: Clana's over, Clark is still a dick and Oliver has turned into The Dark Knight. Good show!
Jocced
02-06-2009, 03:47 AM
I think this episode was great! I'm Glad they proved to us that Clana was for real, eventhough i wish that there were other reasons for them to not to be together besides Lana being juiced up with Kryptonite( i wonder if she could do the same to red kryptonite... would be funny...... :P) Anyways im not sure how Clois is going to work after this but i bet ps3 will be able to fix this nomatter what.
I'm giving this episode a 7!
Cheers.
Kebabz
02-06-2009, 04:40 AM
Overall i havent really been digging smallville in season 8 since Lana showed back up. The first half of season 8 was great because we had character progression between Clark and Lois and since Lana came back thats been shut down and were regressing to old plot lines.. but anywho,,i liked lanas abilities with the suit and i enjoyed the ending. Even though Lex was played by a different actor i found it to be believable enough.
All i hope now is that clark isn't pining over lana for the rest of this season..i really wanna get back to where we left off with clark/lois..and hopefully we carry this into a ninth season. Overall i gave this ep a 1..but i know things are only going to get better now we have finally seen the last of Lana.
Mickey_Bickey
02-06-2009, 04:44 AM
Personally, my favorite character on this show is Clark Kent. I started watching SV because of him and TW's portrayal. Last night as a fan of Superman and a fan of Tom Welling's I was embarrassed for this show and for him. They made his character look like an idiot in these episodes, plain and simple. He was right back to the second half of S6 & S7.
You know the reason why I think this episode and last week's were so bad is because Lana Lang doesn't fit anymore. Her story, her arc, her everything put a dent in an otherwise promising season. Clark was made to look like a fool for the sake of attempting to make Lana Lang look like a hero. The acting was terrible. The kiss at the end looked like something out of The Mummy. His face looked grotesque. There wasn't anything epic, beautiful or believable about that scene. Even TW couldn't pull it off, and I know he can pour it on. I don't believe for a second his heart was in any of this. I felt bad for TW as he was making Clark stumble over to Lana.
The only sad thing in this episode was the downfall of Superman in SV. The writers should have grown a back bone and just said that Clark Kent is the 'be all end all' of this show, and he's not going to look like a fool for Lana Lang or any other woman for that matter.
This arc didn't ruin Lois and Clark for me, because we all know that he's supposed to be over Lana by now and in love with Lois. I'll still watch and hopefully see the story pick up from where it left off in Bride without dwelling on these foolish episodes.
1.....and only because of Oliver. Otherwise it would have been a big goose egg.
madhobbiit
02-06-2009, 05:09 AM
thought it was terrible, it was a rip off of Hancock.and they gave the way for her to come back, the necklace she was wearing was Green K that was altered by the spaceship that brought clark , i assume the same tech is avail at the fortress, all they have to do is get it fixed and and use the tech on her
trh1976
02-06-2009, 05:13 AM
After 8 seasons of putting up with will they/wont they, knowing that they cant be together, and now making it where they cant, we have seen the death of Clana!!!!:lol:
It took long enough!
As a long time fan, episodes with Kristen are too trivial. Fans of Clana must grow up and realize that in the Superman mythos, these two cant be together. Hopefully, with hints of something big in the future episodes, we can see Clark MOVE ON!!!
I hate complaining because the visual photography, scene placement, and the overall display of the episode had some strong scenes. Although I am not a huge fan fan(actually not one at all) the ending final of the episode was tender, sweet, and heart-breaking-another day in the life of Clark Kent. What I want people to look at is the vigilante attitude of one Oliver Green. He was teetering on a slippery slope with his general actions, but this pushes him to Dark Knight territory.
Thought the episode earned a 7!!!!!!!!!!
ChaosMaster16
02-06-2009, 05:21 AM
After 8 seasons of putting up with will they/wont they, knowing that they cant be together, and now making it where they cant, we have seen the death of Clana!!!!:lol:
It took long enough!
As a long time fan, episodes with Kristen are too trivial. Fans of Clana must grow up and realize that in the Superman mythos, these two cant be together. Hopefully, with hints of something big in the future episodes, we can see Clark MOVE ON!!!
I hate complaining because the visual photography, scene placement, and the overall display of the episode had some strong scenes. Although I am not a huge fan fan(actually not one at all) the ending final of the episode was tender, sweet, and heart-breaking-another day in the life of Clark Kent. What I want people to look at is the vigilante attitude of one Oliver Green. He was teetering on a slippery slope with his general actions, but this pushes him to Dark Knight territory.
Thought the episode earned a 7!!!!!!!!!!
I agree, but I need to re watch it. I think it was way rushed, and it defently felt like they wanted to get rid of Lana (no problem there, and i knew this was the last episode) but, I think the paceing was just rushed. As of now, a 4 (last week was a 7) and I have to re watch it.
silverdragon
02-06-2009, 05:29 AM
Overall nice episode....except fpr the clana scenes
Timester
02-06-2009, 05:30 AM
And why is it that not once did anyone mention Jimmy, or when they went to the Planet, there was no comment of "good thing Lois is off tonight" or something like that? Is this in an alternate universe where they never existed?
Hey, don't diss Offscreenvile! Offscreenville is a great show. :p
skugers
02-06-2009, 05:31 AM
I agree, but I need to re watch it. I think it was way rushed, and it defently felt like they wanted to get rid of Lana (no problem there, and i knew this was the last episode) but, I think the paceing was just rushed. As of now, a 4 (last week was a 7) and I have to re watch it.
I second that... I watched this ep only one time and my first impression is that the Lana wrap-up was rushed. I also think we didn't get the Toyman developpement we expected. And the scary Oliver Queen story.... So IMO the writers screwed up big time. It's a 5 for me
Dustmite
02-06-2009, 05:39 AM
I'm starting to believe that the only payoff that will be satisfying is if a huge kryptonite bomb destroys the entire earth.
Yup!
BadaBingBadaBoomsday
02-06-2009, 05:47 AM
I totally [Mod Edit] loved it and I am not exagerating. That episode will not be topped ever in my eyes.
How can you not have a tear in your eye at the end??????
Daniel82
02-06-2009, 05:50 AM
I know this is harsh, but I thought total closure would have been for the explosion to kill Lana, thereby allowing her exit some heroism by saving Clark from the Kryptonite-laced bomb. Then we would KNOW that Clark must move on.
I do not believe Lex is dead. He and his handlers are too smart to have him sitting in that trailer near where the bomb was to go off-that's just plain stupid. We've been through this before with the Lana explosion a few seasons ago.
It's time to wrap the show up neatly. I don't want Smallville to end with me disliking it. It is my favorite show of all time, and I want it to remain that way, but this season is trying my patience a little.
Kalista
02-06-2009, 05:51 AM
[LEFT]How can you not have a tear in your eye at the end??????
Because Clark was on his knees, prostrate before Lana. I thought it was disgusting.
redeem147
02-06-2009, 05:54 AM
I didn't have a tear in my eye. She almost killed the guy.
Well, I did get a little weepy when Clark was running 'Lex' through his fingers.
costas22
02-06-2009, 06:06 AM
Just watched Requiem.In terms of the writing and the direction,it was exquisidely done.However as most of you must have said by now the Clana end was a major disservice for Clana and Clois.Arctic was a more fitting finale.Picture this.The show is about Superman.They spent half a season building towards Clois and in Lana's final scene Clark is left on his knees.Depressing.Clark should have grown out of the relationship not get forced out.
ColdPlay3r
02-06-2009, 06:27 AM
coldplay3rs review
meh
5
JosephKenny18
02-06-2009, 06:29 AM
I thought Requiem was insanely good, i admit that for the past 3 seasons i havent liked Lana at all. Since season 4 i have been a Clois fan through and through but it was a fitting end for a great character. The previous seasons references especially the pilot one was amazing as it shows just how far things have progressed between them.
The krypto kiss at the end was breath taking, in terms of acting, special effects and directing. It truly shows that Clarks greatest weakness is not kryptonite....but hes heart.
In terms of the rest of the season, Clark is going to be depressed and is probably going to be obsessed with the R/B blur. Its going to be Prey all over again.
I just hope that they have a Clois romance, because if this is in fact the last series it would be nice to see. But Clark has to truly want Lois and not the fact that she is just there.
In conclusion i was pleasantly surprised that i liked this episode so much, The clana scenes were great especially bed scene which was adorable and funny. This episode has restored my faith in the smallville producers and writers.
All thats left to do is pray that Tom signs a new contract, Smallville gets a bigger budget for next season and we gota see the glasses on Clark.
Tompouce
02-06-2009, 06:29 AM
I am like Michèle (Mickey Bickey) I just want to see Clark/TW in future episodes as he was until the coming back of Lana. Maybe we are wrong but I am pretty sure TW was not happy to end it like this. The Lana arc was absolutely nonsense, it is out of all we can imagine...
Well, this is ended, ouf. Let us focus on the future. I just want to say that I like very much the last scene when Clark is alone and says "I love you". TW acted perfectly.
I give a 4 to the episode.
I hope there will be a season 9, I can't imagine not watching this show anymore no matter what we can say, complain,...This is a show about the man who gives hope and I think we really need him !
slimdogg23
02-06-2009, 06:32 AM
this ep was good overall, it closed the triangle from season 1 in a good way, clark made the choice to tell lana to save the world. He decided to give up his first love, for the fate of the world.
Tompouce
02-06-2009, 06:33 AM
this ep was good overall, it closed the triangle from season 1 in a good way, clark made the choice to tell lana to save the world. He decided to give up his first love, for the fate of the world.
You are right, Clark, our hero:p
HumanoidCorvin
02-06-2009, 06:33 AM
I am a Clois fan. Clark was all whiney and lovey dovey last night. He should grow balls.
superpal1
02-06-2009, 06:52 AM
Last week I bashed the episode-gave it a one and said that it was the worst episode ever done. This week I gave it a eight. Even though Lana is gone and I like the fact that she is Kryptonite embedded. It worked well because it was plan of Lex's to do that to them and not some random thing that occurred. My only beef is that if it wasn't for the Kryptonite, then Clark and Lana would be together. It sort of makes Lois second best choice. I thought this episode was really well acted. The Toyman for being a silly villian, actually worked well and seemed a little sinister. I do like the fact that Oliver killed Lex or "thinks" that he killed Lex. Even though others are up in arms about this, you know that it will be revisited and he will be able to make amends. I like the duality in Chloe-she agrees with Clark(who actually made a good point about not killing), but then agrees with Oliver at the end. Nothing is black and white right now, its all a little gray and I like that. It gives a point of where people can be brought back and Clark will save them from themselves. I liked the end scene in the loft and even though I wasnt the biggest of Clana fans, I did think that it was a good send off.
Guidron
02-06-2009, 06:59 AM
As a stand alone episode, I thought it was actually pretty decent. The acting was pretty solid and the premise, while far fetched, worked fairly well. I found myself enjoying watching the episode.
That being said, as part of season 8, I thought it was atrocious. I really didn't feel that it fit in with what they've been doing with season 8. Last week and this week have seen Clark fall so far from his progression as a Hero that it's really hard to believe that he becomes the Man of Steel. Not to mention that they've taken all of the build up that they had between Lois and Clark and essentially flushed it down the toilet. How anyone is supposed to believe that Clark can now be interested in Lois after seeing how much of a love sick puppy he is with Lana is almost incomprehensible. It feels like they've completely destroyed that relationship.
Every ounce of Clark's ability to move on from Lana has been stripped away and they have essentially rehashed the end of season 7. I don't know why they couldn't have just left it at Lana left Clark and that was that. I know that Clark and Lana's relationship has been a massive (too big if you ask me) part of Smallville, but I just think they've gone over the edge with it.
I also dislike what they've done with Oliver Queen. He's fallen very far from the hero that he once was, and still should be. I can understand WHY he may have done what he did, but I still don't agree with it.
Stand Alone Episode: 7/10
Part of Season 8: 3/10
Mindylynne
02-06-2009, 07:00 AM
This episodes was okay. I think I would have liked it better if I hadn't known it was Lana's last episode. It made me read more into every scene she was in. It kind of made everything a little too over dramatic for me. Not that I am a huge Lana fan or anything, but just knowing it was the end made all her dialogue kind of over done.
Blanca
02-06-2009, 07:06 AM
It is impressive to see how different Lana Lang is now, a different kind of woman, what she always wanted to be.
Lana with superpowers is the natural outcome of her story arc. She has had them before, way back when she was Elizabeth Tourell, later on whe she was a vampire, and then again took them accidentally from Clark briefly. We also don't know the effects of having been "played with" by Brainiac. So having her with superpowers is perfectly consistent with her life-story, and gives her the right place next to Clark as his soulmate from childhood, giving absolute coherence to her whole story arc since the very beginning when Clark could not get close to her because of the krytonite necklace. They closed the Lana story brilliantly... in Smallville terms... that is to say: in terms of an all-around very stupid story of a very stupid young Superman who always lied and hid from the woman that would have helped him the most in his youth, and who he so consistently hurt throughout the years because of his extreme emotional cowardice taught to him by his parents, something Lana would have taught him to overcome in the first place. He was always such an idiot with Lana that he doesn not deserve her, and Lana deserves something better than being Clark's weakest spot... Lana has always been Clark's kryptonite anyway, so blending them is a brilliant idea.
Loving Clark so much could only result in becoming like him. Now Lana is a super-girl equal to Clark, which explains why there was no place in the writers' plans for Kara.
I'm glad the Lana story is over, after so many years of seeing how incredibly stupidly and incomptenetly her relationship with Clark was handled by the producers. Giving her superpowers and a heroic destiny of her own physically away from Clark was the new producers way of giving Lana/Kristin Kreuk the dignity she deserved in the story.
FlashInSV
02-06-2009, 07:15 AM
Requiem Review
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Okay, I HAVE to say this, or I’ll burst: <O
“Find out how strong the floor is” Umm... EEWW?????!!!!!<O</O
I discovered, if you hit the mute button, this scene suddenly becomes a lot more bearable. I may throw up.
I’ll give Clark </ST1 one thing: he is firmly against killing people. You hear him support something like that so passionately and then the next moment he says “I don’t wanna live in the past” Uh, HELLO!! Earth to <ST1 Clark</ST1! I’ll give you one clue: Lana Lang. I may sound unreasonable and overreacting at the moment, but I can’t let it go just yet. Right now, I don’t wanna see <ST1 Clark's</ST1 face on the screen.
<OAs I was watching Lex I kept thinking “this isn’t MR” and for some reason, that prevented me from really noticing any of his scenes, lines or actions. I have no doubt this man, whoever he is, did an adequate job, but I honestly couldn’t resist the comparison. <O</O
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Justin Hartley as Oliver was outstanding! Not to mention the only scenes I watched without fast-forwarding were his. His snarky comments are part of his charm and his confidence is endearing. He is smart enough to talk Chloe into helping him, which adds to his character. JH did an excellent job. The Oliver-Chloe scenes were great – one of the two good parts in an otherwise dreadful episode. The other good part? See below.
Allison Mack is one of my personal favourites and in ‘Requiem’ she displayed yet again an amazing performance and her impressive talent. However, this time, I felt as if her mind wasn’t completely into it. She seemed a bit ... off. But maybe that’s just me.<O
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Toyman. Toyman took creepy to a whole new level. Every look gives me chills down my spine, every line brings a smirk to my lips. The guy is great. Awesome job. The casting director should be proud - this man was made for the role.
Kirstin Kreuk was unbelievable. And I mean it with all my heart. Those of you who know me are aware I despise Smallville's version of Lana. She is a mess. But I have nothing against KK and honestly, I think her acting was superb in this episode. I don't think I have ever in her 7 years seen her act so well. Congratulations, KK. She really went out on a high note and good for her. I wish her the best of luck at her future endeavours.
<OI thought Smallville couldn't get any worse. It proved me wrong.</O:p
<OClark was incredibly annoying and unbearable to watch. I understand that he needs to hang onto a relationship, but really, doesn't he strike you as needy lately? He simply can't let go! Every time, EVERY SINGLE TIME he attempted a relatioship with Lana it ended in a crash and burn. You'd think he would have enough common sense to see that MAYBE if it didn't work for them the first 3000 times, it will never work. 5000th time lucky, you think, Clark?
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Okay, let me get this straight; <ST Clark</ST1 can’t get close to Lana because of the Kryptonite...hmm... I wonder. I am going to take a logical leap here. I wonder, if Lana finds a way to be cured (it is Smallville, after all) will <ST1Clark </ST1go running back to her? Oh, jolly good! Who needs Lois, anyway? Let's just release Erica Durance from her contract - the PS3 won't be having much use for her anymore.
*sigh* I dunno. I just don't know what to think anymore. I am disappointed and quite frankly, I don't think the mess they created can ever be fixed. I will always keep in mind that Clark would have stuck with Lana if he had the chance. Why? Because they were driven apart by CIRCUMSTANCE and not by a clean, mature break-up like two rational adults.
I believe PS3 took a risk when they sat down to write the Lana-arc. I believe they thought to themselves "We have two choices: We can make Lana come back, spring a little jealousy between Lois and Clark, let them have their closure, OR we could bring Lana back, temporarily remove Lois from the mix, have Clana all over again and climax in a dramatic ending."
My guess is they had no idea it would cause such reactions from us, the fans. Because if they did, and still chose to do it on purpose, then I'm terrified for the kind of people we have trusted young Superman's fate with.
I give this episode a 2.
Super Maverick
02-06-2009, 07:23 AM
solid 5
Glove
02-06-2009, 07:24 AM
I thought that this episode was alright. I still don't like the empowered
Lana, but I liked how they wrote her out of the show. The Toyman was
tolerable. You'd think that with all those patents(Inventions) that he
wouldn't have to rely on Oliver or Lex for financial backing. You guys
know that Lex isn't dead, especially since Mike agreed to come back
if he could wear a bald cap. The Oliver and Chloe stuff was interesting.
I gave it a 6.
Worst episode ever! Lana has super powers and Lois is sloppy seconds.
BAMAGIRL
02-06-2009, 07:31 AM
I gave it a 5. It wasn't great, but It wasn't as bad as I expected.
The actor who played Toyman nailed it. He was creepy and demented without being over the top.
I'm a Closier, but I admit I busted a tear or two during the last scene. But it was soooooooo wrong! How does Clark come back from that? It kind of spoiled Clois for me. I hope Lois has the great wall of China around her heart when she gets back.
Best acting I've ever seen from TW in the last scenes.
gameface25
02-06-2009, 07:38 AM
There are plenty of rant threads discussing the Clana crap, so this isn't the place for it :) (I will say during the episode I had several 'good god, gimme a break' moments over it, but the last scene was touching, and I can smile today knowing NO MORE LANA! The character deserved a heroic sendoff like that tho, after 8 seasons, and now we can move forward, tho I wish she got that sendoff last season and didn't have to get her back wasting 4 episodes with her in it, in a possible last season)
Anyways, when the whole Rig explosion thing happened, Im thinking, ok how are they gonna play Lex surviving that off? He obviously did, they will just say it was some kinda router for the IP or something... but THEN they show GA with Lex's ring, the ring they already showed earlier in the episode on Lex's finger... how can they explain that away?
I also thought the Lex they had looked remarkably like MR, tho knowing it wasn't, it was good casting and makeup/costuming on their part to get it right. I wish they had got MR to do the voice tho, over the phone or something. Lex really did seem evil tho, and you can tell reached a final breaking point, and seemed to sit in silent bliss as he watched his plan rip apart Lana and Clark for good. Fitting end to the 7 season long "triangle" that heated up the past few seasons. Afterall, the bread and butter of Sville has always been those 3, so even with the newer cast this season, it is fitting that this story played out like it did, even if you dont like the "powersuit" angle of it.
Toyman was done well, tho I wished they had given him the actual name of Toyman at some point, or he given it to himself
I think the whole GA revenge angle, while I get why it was done, they could have shown alot more development leading up to him "killing" Lex... over several episodes, show him in a hell bent revenge mode and the moral compass changing into killing.
I also like how a major theme this season is that same moral compass, of killing or not, which is paramount to who Superman is and will be.
All in all, while I thought the dose of Clana was heavy the past few episodes, especially considering Bride was such a step in the right direction for Clark and Lois, I think any real fan can take a step back and see it as a "need to be done" thing and, knowing it is now over for good, move on into "How will they end this season/series" mode that we should all be in now, seeing as it is coming.
ims001
02-06-2009, 07:48 AM
A lot of people stood their TV couches by thinking 'This episode will be a disaster. I don't even want to watch it.' or 'This episode has Lana. Eww!'
Those who gave 1 points were programmed theirselves to hate this episode. I'm sorry but this episode deserved 7 - 10. Do you really think it's the worst episode ever? I don't think so... Specially the last scene was hilarious!
A lot of people stood by their TV couches by thinking 'This episode will be great. I can't wait to watch it.' or 'This episode has Lana. Wow!'
Those who gave 10 points programmed themselves to love this episode. I'm sorry but this episode deserved 1 - 3. Do you really think it's the best episode ever? I don't think so... Specially the last scene was ludicrous!
It really does work both ways, you know. People are just as blinded by love as by hate (maybe even more so).
bookfanatic
02-06-2009, 07:48 AM
Hi All, I am one of those lurkers who just finally had to register and comment on this arc. First let me say that I am a Clois fan from way back in the '70's when I would buy the "Lois marries Superman" comics.
I came to Smallville in just the past few years and have loved the Clois on the show. Have never liked Lana(I think it's Kristens voice), but truly wanted to see a great close for both Clark and Lana. Unfortunatly, I didn't get that from this story arc.
I am very disappointed in how this story was added to a great and progressive season and seems to have stopped the show cold. I was one of those that was not overly affected by the final scene because I was too busy screaming at the TV that "she brought this on herself by being so selfish!!".
I do believe that Lana brought all of this on by being power hungry and not able to accept herself as she is, and not believing that Clark could love her for that. In the last two episodes Clark stopped think with his big brain and did not hold Lana accountable for anything she did. I think this has ruined any feelings I could have had for the Clana of Smallville.
I am by no means a writer, but this is how I would have written the five episodes of the Lana arc.
Bride- I would have left this one alone. We had a great, mature conversation about how their lives have changed and how maybe they weren't meant to be together. A bittersweet, but angst free conversation.
Legion- The only thing I would have changed is to have Imra tell Lana that her Isis Foundation is still making a difference even a 1000 years in the future. That would be something to think about in terms of the difference she could make in the world.
Bulletproof- Again only one scene to change. Have Clark come into the Talon talking about what Dan said about finding someone to fight for. Lana tells him he is already doing that. He fights for her, Chloe, Martha, and even Lois. A smile comes over Clarks face and we fade out to them having coffee.
Power- This deserves a total rewrite, but the gist would be that Lana is going after the suit and someone, be it Oliver, Chloe or Clark finds out and stops her by mentioning that anything developed by Lex must have a sinister purpose. Oh, look it absorbs kryptonite and will become poisonous to Clark. Good thing someone found out about your secret. I would even have left the final DP scene only it would have been a conversation about how well they work together when their not keeping secrets from each other as the sun rises on their new relationship.
Requiem- If Power had ended as above: Clark and company discover that Toyman is working for Lex who is in Metropolis. Everyone works together to find him(with Lana manning the Isis computers). I liked someone elses idea that Clark and Oliver arrive at the same time and Clark talks Oliver out of killing Lex. I would then blow up the truck and leave it open as to how did it. Clark and Lana are in the barn and Lana is ready to go back to Paris and open a branch of Isis. Clark is happy for her and gives her the necklace a going away present. She reminds him of what he said to her a the graveyard and they will always be in each others hearts. A quick(emphasis on quick) kiss and Lana turns and walks away with her head up and a smile on her face. Clark is left at the window looking out to his future also with a smile on his face.
Even as someone who dislike/hated Clana I would have sniffled at such a sad, but inevitable ending for this couple.
Instead, I am going to pretend that Bobby Ewing is singing loud and strong at the beginning of Infamous and that this last few episodes never existed. It will be the only way I will be able to suspend disbelief and root for my Clois.
Thank you for letting me get this off of my chest and hopefully out of my system.
Blessings
Jaderoyale
02-06-2009, 07:52 AM
Well hello there. Here we go again. Another week, another review. Obviously next week there won't be one because of the hiatus.... then its Infamous and... and... Lois will be back *bounces madly* I'm keeping that at the back of my mind right now.
My review last week, oh it was beautiful. I didn't hold back. I was LETHAL. And it felt so good. I can't say i want to do that again this week. After last weeks travesty there is NO WAY this episode can be any worse. It can be on parr with Power, or it can surpass it and be good. Good for many reasons. I must admit, i'm feeling scarily optimistic this week. I'm hoping that PS3 do something right. That they end the Clark and Lana relationship in the RIGHT way. If they end it in the wrong way? Well, i won't hold back. Again. Also, this is KK's last Smallville episode that we know of; unless theres a season 9 and she has a guest episode or something, which i won't be bothered by, as long as there is NO Clana. So really Jade, what are your expectations of tonights episode? NOT TO BE DISAPPOINTED. Or want to scratch my eyes out. No angst. You got that PS3? Yes? Good. Vodka just in case? Check. Sanity? Maybe not. Let us begin.
(on first viewing of this i swore so much, i had to watch it again)
And its started. Oh. No recap this week? Good. Can't say i want ton be reminded of anything that happened last week. Is that a minature Daily Planet. Oh. RONALD!!! Sorry. Toyman. He's creepy. Already and its only just started. Gaaaah! Whats with that puppet? I admit it, puppets freak me out. Big time. This was a weird choice for an opening scene. But i strangely liked it. Here we go to Luthorcorp. Oh Oliver. In a suit. Take your shirt off. OH GOD. Oliver why? WHY WOULD YOU PURCHASE LUTHORCORP?! Pampered playboy. Oliver just notice that balls have started moving on their own. There we go. And there goes the bomb. How did you know it was a bomb Oliver? Did you plant it? This wouldn't suprise me. Lol.
Opening credits. *sways* Man is we don't get a season 9 i will severely miss this song. Though i do have it on my itunes. One of my most played, of course. Stay wwiiiitttth, that bit always reminds me of Annette O'Toole. Bring her back.
Oh for god sake. Is that what i think it is?! The return of super sex. Right, wheres my vodka.
Oh Tom looks happy. Well i'm sure Clark is VERY happy at that moment. Stop it. Seriously where is my vodka. I'll test the floor with you Clark, just say the word. Blah blah saving Dr Grohls life was an amazing feeling. Blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaah. And Clarks going to let her join him. Clark you idiot. Clark that woman to spend your life with is LOIS. Honestly now. Leave Lana be. Go to Star City and bring Lois back. Here comes Chloe. How do you know these things so fast Chloe? Pah.
Hospital. Here comes our fix of shirtless Oliver. I'm thankful. Haha Metropolis' newest power couple. Trust Oliver to actually be sarcastic about them. Did you not bring her back with you Oliver? Yes, so shut up. Ahahaha Oliver. Lovely. Yes Lana's stolen Lex's suit. Silly woman. Oh Oliver's lying. Lana seems to know he's lying. Obviously liars recognise the signs.
Luthorcorp building. Wow, how did Oliver survive that? Of course theres Kryptonite Clark. You're with a walking Kryptonite right now. Lanas you weakness, just, walk away and never come back. Lana be quiet. *takes a massive gulp of vodka* Ah! Thats the stuff right there. WHOA WHAT WAS THAT? Ahahaha, does Lana absorb Kryptonite then? I knew it. This is a suit made my Lex. He always uses Kryptonite. I like Clarks hair.
Toymans back. Seriously hes creepy. Lex me guess, that puppet is a camera and hes talking to Lex? Yup there we go. That isn't Lex. I don't care what anyone says. MR is Lex, that is not MR. End of story. Seriously, this Toyman. This is some good casting. He is ridiculously creepy, just as he should be. His eyes look like they're going to pop out of his head.
Hospital. And Oliver's being a bit, well you know. Obviously nurses are his kind of thing. Oliver's hair looks different. Here comes Chloe. So Winslow worked for Oliver, good times. Oh we can't tell Clark. Course Clark wouldn't want to agree Oliver, its murder! Chloe you killed a man. So you can be quiet. Oh Oliver, using the guilt trip. *slaps*
Olivers pimp jet. Sorry i zoned out there. Chloe's back to telling Clark what to do. GOOD CLARK. Focused on the future, not living in the past. Except for Lana. I do like this speech. This is good. Chloe looks guilty and so she should. Thats it, give Clark the information, you owe him that much.
Hospital. Here comes Winslow. With balloons. And a bomb i assume. Who sweetheart don't smile, my vodka will come back up.
Back at the Kent Farm. The house of denial. Lana. More vodka. Looking at her old necklace. Reference to high school. Oh Clark be quiet. Hahaha, she absorbs Kryptonite. Yes Lana, he is the target. Oh i can see where this is going now. They're going to somehow find Kryptonite and Lana will absorb it all. Clark will cry. I will rejoyce. What are they saying? I'm not listening. I'm imaging what will happen to make us all happy.
Hospital again. Oliver appears to be chained down. Boo hoo. Hi Winslow. Lol Oliver, if only he was a clown. Does he look that different to you Oliver. LOL. How much for the ape. Oliver is always too calm. Gosh tha toy monkey is creepy. Much like Winslow himself. Clank clank. As if you can count those clankings Oliver. Oh he broke a finger. Tut tut Oliver.
Toymans boudoir. Creeeeeepy. Like a toyshop. Only darker. Oooooh a Metropolis playset. I want one, it looks so much fun. I could make everything i want to happen, happen. Back at the hospital Oliver has escaped and put Winslow under the quilt. As you do. Chloe appears. Winslow pops his balloons (LOL) which emmit some sort of gas. As balloons usually do.
Isis, our favourite place in the entire of Smallville. Chloe recovered quick and is helping Clark find Lex. Okay. No idea what Lana's doing, i don't care. Lex is on the move. Go Lex. Run. I made you a Lex tracker. *swears under breath* Product placement.
Daily Planet. I can almost like Lana for searching for the bomb.... almost. Not entirely. Its on the roof, as bombs are. Man that is one massive kryptonite bomb. Touch it Lana. Please. What the. Thats not Lex. That is one weird voice. I knew it. Lana's kryptonite to Clark. Boooo. Oh. Clarks told her she has to. I didn't think he'd say that. I thought he'd go all whiny. Clark for once, has chosen the world over Lana. This is something new to me. Oh our last Clana kiss. GOOD. Lex is creeping me out. I really want to know why his face is like, scared. Like burns. Does ice burn? I thought not. Oh actually, this is a good scene. I feel pretty emotional. I think i have tears coming. Stop it Jade. Oh she did it. And oh! Clark can't get near her. I liked this scene. It was touching. What is the matter with me? I should be dancing. Not reaching for tissues.
When angry, Clark goes to find Lex. Oh its all so reminiscent *wipes away a tear* Here comes the kryptonite. No Lana you dont know how much it hurts. Move, you will kill him. Lana being all noble. Woman, did you not try and kill Lex in Wrath? Whoa, an explosion. Lex wasn't in there. No way.
Isis. Ah, Oliver used the monkey. Hahah, sorry that was funny. Whoa okay, remains were Lex's. Hmmm, clone. They can't kill Lex, sorry. Refuse to believe that. Clark thinks it was Winslow, ah poor niave Clark. Chloe shout at him. Good girl. Oliver don't even say you did that for Clark. Oh god. Olivers figured out that Chloe killed that guy. Magnificent. Oh lets lie to Clark while he's heartbroken, thats exactly what he needs.
Oh. Do we have The Killers playing? Whoa, Clark. Man, you just respect everyone don't you? After all Lex did to you and has put you through, you've honestly just gone and sprinkled dirt, paying your respects? Crikey. Nice touch though. He looks pretty sad. AS IF Oliver is smirking. Oh Oliver. OH MY GOD. Kryptonite ring. This song really fits this scene well. Slow motion! Sorry.
Kent loft. Lana, Clark looks scared. Clark shut up. Can you not realise you CAN'T be with her now? Shes literally got the power to kill you. Oh gosh, someone pass me a bucket. Yes Lana, good girl, the choice was made. In fact, Clark YOU made that choice. Oh. I'm getting emotional again. Oh he's actually walking towards her. I am actually crying. My make up, is literally going to me caked into my face. Okay this is the last Clana kiss then. OH GOOD HEAVENS. SUICIDAL CLARK. And they're really going for it :lol: Well, it is their last kiss ever. I'll let them be. I need a tissue. Oh a call back to season 1. Good times, good times. Right, thats it. Its over. She's gone.
Overall
I actually. Liked this episode *feels shocked at self*
Don't get me wrong, its not one of the best of the season, but there was something about it.
Firstly, i was just insanely happy, that Clark told Lana she had to difuse the bomb. The way she was looking at him, she didn't want to. But he chose to save the city over keeping her. For once. Lana has always come first for Clark, yet this time, he chose to help other people. I cannot thank the writers enough for this. Just when i thought we'd lost Clark for good after Power, he steps himself up and makes what can only be described as a heartbreaking choice to save the city.
Lana. Oh sweetie. You've gone. I will say, i didn't want you to go like that. You've left the possibility for a Clana reunion; bad times, but he can't get near you without practically dying, and you know its right to just leave him. He knows that too, but i think hes more overshadowed by how you can't be together, which is a BIG mistake PS3.
Oliver. I enjoyed your shirtless scene. I did not enjoy you.
Toyman, creepiest man ever. I will never look at my little sisters toys in the same way again.
Chloe, nice to see your back to the Chloe we know and love. By the way, hows yous husband?
The acting this episode was top notch. ESPEICALLY in the last scene with TW and KK. They really upped their game there. I was seriously in tears. The way Clark was trying to get to Lana, her face when she realised what he was doing. No i do not like Clana, you know that, but that was literally heartbreaking to watch. The fact that "Lex" had something to do with it makes it even worse. He was always trying to stop them being together and now hes succeeded, in the worst way ever.
PS3; You however, are still in my bad books. While i am glad Clana is over, i am not glad in the way it ended. We've always said we wanted it to be Clarks choice, fair enough ultimately it was, he told Lana to touch the bomb, knowing what it would do to her. Lana has always been his weakness in the talking sense, now she is ACTUALLY his weakness. A living human being of Kryptonite. However, the way they left it? He's heartbroken, he can never be with her again. I can't see how you will expect us to believe that he will have seriously fallen for Lois' by Hex, if he is this heartbroken. He simply cannot fall for Lois' that quickly, its unnatural and Lois Lane is NOT anybodies rebound. You hear me?
I just hope that a good month will have passed in the Smallville world during now and Infamous. Maybe Clark will have done some healing, maybe Lois will know about it all when she comes back and offer him some sharp home truths and he'll realise that its her he needs. I just hope you don't let us down PS3. You managed to salvage this episode after Power, but only just. I want you to make Infamous the GREATEST episode i have ever seen. I'm fed up of giving out such low marks. I miss giving 10's.
Mark overall, and the acting has made this go up so high; 4/10, minus the acting would be a 2/10. Not as low as Power, but what the hey, its still a bad mark. STEP UP PS3. You're becoming an epic fail.
LuckyLois
02-06-2009, 07:58 AM
Toyman was really good. I think it might have been played by the actor who once worked for Lex when Lex needed a repair disc for his computer and goes down to the computer Geek department. Season 4 I think.
Oliver being a murderer (even though we all know Lex isn't dead), not loving.
I was glad Oliver called Chloe out on the Sebastian killing. So we now know that Chloe actually knew what she/Brainiac did. I don't like Chloe being a murderer though. There is definitely something off with her character and something big is coming!
Lana...........................as much as I wanted to scream at the last 2 episodes, I was less upset last night and found the ending sad. I feel she could have gone out a much better way and not be a myrtar but that would be asking too much from the writers.
I wish they used the Toyman without Lex pulling the strings. I wish that Lex was still left up to our own imaginations and not brought back. I felt that Lana and Clark giving into Lex's plan was too easy. Why couldn't Lana grabbed the bomb and ran to the desert to blow up? Oh well...
Tom had some nice moments but I can't wait to see Lois back because I really like the way he acts around her.
Maybe I'm just numb, but I was so upset after last weeks episode that I am just so glad this is over and look forward to the way things were at the beginning of the season.
Demien
02-06-2009, 08:04 AM
10(best)wohoo at last Lana is off and she'll never be able to come back :d wohooo
saltyweeks
02-06-2009, 08:04 AM
I wish everyone that complains about having to read the negative opinions of this episode would just stop reading, so we don't have to wade through all their comments.
I don't mind negative opinions-- I have some myself. The problem I have is people who just log on to give the episode a 1 and tell us how "stupid" it is and how they should stop Smallville. What is the point of watching a show you hate? Anyone who has actually been watching Smallville from the pilot would know how important Lana is to the show.
You can criticize the direction a season or episode goes without trashing the whole show-- I mean, how did these folks endure watching all those years if they can't stand Lana Lang and her presence makes or breaks an episode for them? That would have them hating well over half of Smallville's episodes. Doesn't make sense.
Anyone who accuses Smallville of sinking to new lows in the Superman mythos has missed a lot of crazy twists in the comics and must not have seen the last two Superman movies.
Animation
02-06-2009, 08:06 AM
I voted 8. I actually enjoyed it overall. The Lex stuff was awful, and I hated that Clark and Lana broke up over anything other than realization that they wouldnt work together. I also dont like the fact that Lana ends up with powers.
Despite all that, I had fun.
I kinda enjoyed the "comic book tragedy" aspect at the end. That's what a villain like Lex SHOULD do! I was rooting for Lex in that one. MUAH HA HA! I loved Clark's attempt to kiss her.
Lewis
Super-Show
02-06-2009, 08:24 AM
I keep reading how some cant believe how Clark could still love Lana after all thats happend?? HELLO - Smallville is the story about the worlds greatest Superhero! One is good in all ways and finds the best in people! Im mean he even, to the very end tried to find the best in his most hated enemy - LEX! How then could you not expect that Clark would not fight to the very end for his first true love! That he would not try everything to make it work between him and Lana. I think that the last scene was really great! It was done very well, in the barn where so many times before they had been trying to figure out how they could make it work between them. KK did such a great job and honestly will really miss her. I really cant see how the chemistry with Lois is even going to come close to that of Lana.
Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 08:25 AM
The episode was grotesque. The only consolation is the knowledge that my own ship will not have such a pathetic fate.
borisino
02-06-2009, 08:29 AM
[mod edit] First off this episode was far below the narrative storytelling that has returned to Smallville this current season. It was a below average episode, but it wasn't because of Clana. Now as much of us would like to see Clark and Lois together, the writers felt like they, scratch that, we needed proper closure. Back when Lana left Smallville with a simple video, we were all scratching and moaning about how much of a cop out that was. The writers gave us what we needed for us to have that closure and now move on. That's all this Lana Returns arc was all about, tieing up the loose ends. So please don't knock it because Clana. I understand it wasn't the quality we have come to expect, but you don't have to worry anymore, cuz its officially over.
cma_454
02-06-2009, 08:44 AM
O.K., after sleeping on it, my initial reaction following Requiem has changed. The initial anger is gone. It’s been replaced by indifference.
All those who have said; forget mythos, forget Superman, this is Smallville, you are right.
Want to make Oliver a serial killer or have him go insane and be committed to an asylum? Go for it, after all this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
Hey, want to turn Chloe into an evil genius (the new Lex)? Or, maybe kill her off? How about having her become the ‘real’ Lois Lane? It’s all good, after all this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
Why not have Lois and Jimmy die in a plane crash on the way back from Edge City (trying to find where Chloe’s been these past few weeks)? Awesome, after all this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
Clark? Who needs him? Kill him off, have him turn evil, have him sit catatonic in the loft forever (pining for Lana)? No problem, after all this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
Lana? Bring her back as Superlana (as Requiem certainly showed her to be more Superman than Clark) and, after all this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
As far as I’m concerned, PS3 can now do anything they like with any of the characters, relationships, and plots in Smallville. Nothing they do will ever again bother me. After all, this is Smallville, not Superman (so they can do anything and ‘real’ Smallville fans will keep watching).
I must not be a ‘real’ fan because I may, or may not, watch future episodes (but watching will never again be a priority).
epage101
02-06-2009, 08:45 AM
1) Ok, first off I am so tired of the Lana relationship. Look, If I had a buddy who's girlfriend:
a) strung him along for years
b) began dating a guy he hated
c) married that guy and then got pregnant by him
d) faked her death and disappeared
e) broke up with him via camcorder video
f) disappeared again
g) showed up at his house myteriously on the day of his best friend's wedding only to sting him along some more.while he was about to get over her with a hotter girl.
I would kick his butt just on principle. Jeebus H Christ! Why are they subjecting us to a horrible relationship and making superman a lovesick teenager? We understand all this BS in high school but heck he's like what? 25 now. Come on!!!
2) Lets move it along please. We have had Lex, Zod, the phantoms, Brainiac, Doomsday and now Toyman. Where is Clark/Superman while all his enemies are figuring out how to KILL him? He can't fly. No secret identity, hasn't put in a days work at the planet since chloe disappeared, no suit, no direction, no name, no nothing. He's chasing Lana and being stupid. :eek:
Let's take a page from the bible "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
it's time to become a man...A Super-man!
dotsie23
02-06-2009, 08:45 AM
Wow the haters have finally crept out of the woodworks. First off this episode was far below the narrative storytelling that has returned to Smallville this current season. It was a below average episode, but it wasn't because of Clana. Now as much of us would like to see Clark and Lois together, the writers felt like they, scratch that, we needed proper closure. Back when Lana left Smallville with a simple video, we were all scratching and moaning about how much of a cop out that was. The writers gave us what we needed for us to have that closure and now move on. That's all this Lana Returns arc was all about, tieing up the loose ends. So please don't knock it because Clana. I understand it wasn't the quality we have come to expect, but you don't have to worry anymore, cuz its officially over.
I don't know now that it's over the Haters will be even more hateful! It was o.k. I thought it was kinda funny seeing Lana being a supercharged action hero alongside with Clark.
diinIN
02-06-2009, 08:54 AM
I don't know what to make of Requiem. The ending scene was well acted (which would have been easy since these two have worked together for 8 years, and were saying goodbye in reality), but I hated seeing Clark still groveling over her. I know he always loves her (he did give her a ring in S3 and made Lois all jealous), but he seemed to have more self-respect in the movies.
I wanted to celebrate the exit of Lana Lang, but can't, because there really was no closure. How is Clark going to move on to Lois now? They finally got that relationship going, and now how is it going to continue after all this? As a rebound?
Also, Lex really can't be dead, unless the Lex of Superman's future is a clone or something.
I'm going to chalk these last two episodes up to TPTB trying to appease Clana fans, and hope that they get on with the season again in the way it was going before Power, because it was really great.
geminis
02-06-2009, 08:55 AM
I am going to rip Clana to shreds in my review.
I'm so glad you are gone Lana. I hate you more than I've ever hated any television character ever before. Good riddance.
*rubbing hands together in evil anticipation* Can't wait because I agree.
PS3 has been secretly replaced by Al/Miles for the Lanadrama. Oh goodie. I may slit my wrists but then I'd miss Lois coming back with a vengeance. Can't miss that.
I threw up in my mouth the whole episode through with the sole exception of Toyman and (shirtless :p) Oliver segments.
When I'm more rational I'll return to ven/expound on my loathing of this fiasco.
gigatron
02-06-2009, 08:58 AM
So in the end lana is the strong one and we have clark grovelling at her feet begging her not to go...again!!! And lana becomes a superhero too with speed and strength to rival clarks? Talk about demasculation! Superman? More like supertwitt!!
wb-superman
02-06-2009, 09:07 AM
It was a good episode but it had it best chemistry and love w/ the last of Clana. Oliver and Chloe goes down the dark path. It brought tears to my eyes in the ending w/ the Lana and Clark last moment together in a bad separation.
rainbowtrout
02-06-2009, 09:09 AM
Watched the ep again and KK and TW really nailed that last scene. IMO, it was their best work together.
But why the love for the Toyman? The character seemed like a wimp and the acting was far too hammy.
Mickey_Bickey
02-06-2009, 09:11 AM
]*rubbing hands together in evil anticipation* Can't wait because I agree.[/B]
PS3 has been secretly replaced by Al/Miles for the Lanadrama. Oh goodie. I may slit my wrists but then I'd miss Lois coming back with a vengeance. Can't miss that.
I threw up in my mouth the whole episode through with the sole exception of Toyman and (shirtless :p) Oliver segments.
When I'm more rational I'll return to ven/expound on my loathing of this fiasco.
:rotfl:
badraven
02-06-2009, 09:18 AM
I've watched Smallville since the series premiere. In all that time I've only thought 2 episodes were bad. That's right...only 2. Oh sure there have been a lot of, what I like to refer to as- lesser episodes, but I had only really intensely disliked 2 episodes. Well that number has grown by one, now I think of three episodes that are just bad.
Bad in the sense that they are against everything the series is supposed to be about. Bad in that to finish it I had to force myself. Bad in the way I hope I never see the episode again. Bad in that Clark and Lana deserved so much better (whether you like it or not their relationship has been at the core of the series since the beginning.) Bad in that it debases every character in the series. It was just bad. :(
I'm not going to stop watching SV. But this episodes goes into the trash heap. They failed us with this one.
SuperheroFan87
02-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Was the broken bed really necessary? "Lana it was solid oak!":lol::lol::lol:
Night-Wolf
02-06-2009, 09:19 AM
In overall I liked the episode, but I didn't like the idea that Clark and Lana were forced to leave each other. I would have prefered much more instead if Clark realized in the past few weeks that his feelings for Lana were fading away while he misses Lois.
I wish they could have done in this episode something like if they were about to kiss but then Clark pulls back and they would say to each other:
Clark - "I can't do this!"
Lana - "What's wrong, Clark?"
Clark - "There's someone else. I wasn't sure before but now I know that I'm having feelings for another woman and she might have feelings for me too. And kissing you makes me feel that I'm betraying her. I still care for you but our relationship has changed, so has my love for you. We can't be together anymore."
Lana - "I guess you're right. I said it myself in Chloe's wedding that maybe Clark Kent and Lana Lang just weren't meant to end up together."
But now with this episode that they gave us it feels like Clark will never get over Lana and even when he ends up with Lois he would still choose Lana if he could. It looks like Clark will always have Lois in 2nd place. I hope I'm wrong though.
tibbit78
02-06-2009, 09:53 AM
I know this is harsh, but I thought total closure would have been for the explosion to kill Lana, thereby allowing her exit some heroism by saving Clark from the Kryptonite-laced bomb. Then we would KNOW that Clark must move on.
I do not believe Lex is dead. He and his handlers are too smart to have him sitting in that trailer near where the bomb was to go off-that's just plain stupid. We've been through this before with the Lana explosion a few seasons ago.
It's time to wrap the show up neatly. I don't want Smallville to end with me disliking it. It is my favorite show of all time, and I want it to remain that way, but this season is trying my patience a little.
Welcome to Kryptonsite, Daniel82.
Joren DarkStar
02-06-2009, 10:01 AM
Why?
If this was to be Kristen Kreuk's final Lana performance, then come on, give me a break?
Why? I'll tell you why.
Because how can this show sell us that Clark truly loves Lois, when they have it that he has a thing for Lana?
I did some reading, and it seems what really affects Lana in the comics is that at some point, Clark realizes, just realizes, that for as good as he thought it would be between Lana and him, it just doesn't feel right. Clark breaks it off with Lana.
And in the Smallville mythos, the only thing that would truly make Lois and Clark believable is something of the same nature.
Seriously, it's like all that Lois and clark buildup got cast aside.
If the writers had any true sense of the material, Clark would be the one to finally end it, and not end it in an "I love you" way, but end it in a "I'll always cherish what we had, but I am moving on and don't still love you like that" way.
THEN I can buy making room in his heart for Lois. But seriously, Lois as the rebound girl is crap, especially when there hasn't been a proper break up with Lana, who really is the one holding him back from if not what he does, then at least becoming the person he inevitably becomes.
So yeah, for that I am ticked.
Mickey_Bickey
02-06-2009, 10:05 AM
Was the broken bed really necessary? "Lana it was solid oak!":lol::lol::lol:
Thankfully they didn't refer to it as "the bed of steel"!http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0009.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/freesmiley.php?smiley=happy/happy0009.gif)
tibbit78
02-06-2009, 10:12 AM
Hi All, I am one of those lurkers who just finally had to register and comment on this arc. First let me say that I am a Clois fan from way back in the '70's when I would buy the "Lois marries Superman" comics.
I came to Smallville in just the past few years and have loved the Clois on the show. Have never liked Lana(I think it's Kristens voice), but truly wanted to see a great close for both Clark and Lana. Unfortunatly, I didn't get that from this story arc.
I am very disappointed in how this story was added to a great and progressive season and seems to have stopped the show cold. I was one of those that was not overly affected by the final scene because I was too busy screaming at the TV that "she brought this on herself by being so selfish!!".
I do believe that Lana brought all of this on by being power hungry and not able to accept herself as she is, and not believing that Clark could love her for that. In the last two episodes Clark stopped think with his big brain and did not hold Lana accountable for anything she did. I think this has ruined any feelings I could have had for the Clana of Smallville.
I am by no means a writer, but this is how I would have written the five episodes of the Lana arc.
Bride- I would have left this one alone. We had a great, mature conversation about how their lives have changed and how maybe they weren't meant to be together. A bittersweet, but angst free conversation.
Legion- The only thing I would have changed is to have Imra tell Lana that her Isis Foundation is still making a difference even a 1000 years in the future. That would be something to think about in terms of the difference she could make in the world.
Bulletproof- Again only one scene to change. Have Clark come into the Talon talking about what Dan said about finding someone to fight for. Lana tells him he is already doing that. He fights for her, Chloe, Martha, and even Lois. A smile comes over Clarks face and we fade out to them having coffee.
Power- This deserves a total rewrite, but the gist would be that Lana is going after the suit and someone, be it Oliver, Chloe or Clark finds out and stops her by mentioning that anything developed by Lex must have a sinister purpose. Oh, look it absorbs kryptonite and will become poisonous to Clark. Good thing someone found out about your secret. I would even have left the final DP scene only it would have been a conversation about how well they work together when their not keeping secrets from each other as the sun rises on their new relationship.
Requiem- If Power had ended as above: Clark and company discover that Toyman is working for Lex who is in Metropolis. Everyone works together to find him(with Lana manning the Isis computers). I liked someone elses idea that Clark and Oliver arrive at the same time and Clark talks Oliver out of killing Lex. I would then blow up the truck and leave it open as to how did it. Clark and Lana are in the barn and Lana is ready to go back to Paris and open a branch of Isis. Clark is happy for her and gives her the necklace a going away present. She reminds him of what he said to her a the graveyard and they will always be in each others hearts. A quick(emphasis on quick) kiss and Lana turns and walks away with her head up and a smile on her face. Clark is left at the window looking out to his future also with a smile on his face.
Even as someone who dislike/hated Clana I would have sniffled at such a sad, but inevitable ending for this couple.
Instead, I am going to pretend that Bobby Ewing is singing loud and strong at the beginning of Infamous and that this last few episodes never existed. It will be the only way I will be able to suspend disbelief and root for my Clois.
Thank you for letting me get this off of my chest and hopefully out of my system.
Blessings
Welcome to Kryptonsite, Sharon.
melissan02
02-06-2009, 10:13 AM
Was the broken bed really necessary? "Lana it was solid oak!":lol::lol::lol:
Damned English Oak!!!:mad::p---If it had been Maple, it would have gone through the floor!!
President_Luthor
02-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Overall, it was an okay episode. Entertaining, with some closure re: Clana and a potential wedge driven between Clark and Ollie. They could have titled this ep.: "Allergy".
But the blowing up DP plot seemed a bit amateurish, for someone of Lex's supposed genius. To break up Clark and Lana, by giving CK a Clana-llergy? "Not even Reactine can keep you together, Clark!" *shudders*. Ollie and Chloe's crisis of conscience spats (yeah, I know, it's all about secrets and lies :lol:) gave the plot more to chew on, IMHO. I would have been nice if Clark, especially, came to the conclusion that he and Lana had to part ways because of sacrificing for the greater good and to accomplish his destiny. They have alluded to Clark (slowly) realizing this as the case, but I wish that he had come to that decision without the hammer-on-anvil forced breakup because Lana is kryptonized.
On an unrelated front, Ollie's blonde nurse was super-cute! More, please!
I'd give it an average 7. The plot could have been better, since this ep provided closure to Clana and (allegedly) killed Lex.
GuardianAngel
02-06-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm a 28-year-old man myself, and even I wound up trembling while that last scene played. It was the kind of moment where you almost feel like its your own heart being ripped out. You feel so much sympathy for the characters, along with a fierce anger and desire for justice.
Simply put, what Lex did was beyond cruel; there are simply no words for it. I hope that he's still alive, and that Clark will someday get his payback for this tragedy (stopping short of killing him, of course).
From a 28 year-old to another, I couldn't agree more. What Lex did was beyond cruel... and he'll be back (in a way or another)....
I didn't cry at the end, but I felt so sad......
BTW, thre writers finally decided to address Lana's necklace issue. I'd been waiting for that since she discovered it in Clark's room in season 6.
The episode wasn't the greatest, but I felt there pain at the ending scene. chemistry between lana and clark was amazing...
blackcelebration
02-06-2009, 10:30 AM
Watched the ep again and KK and TW really nailed that last scene. IMO, it was their best work together.
But why the love for the Toyman? The character seemed like a wimp and the acting was far too hammy.
Cos Toyman is a DC Character who actually has a part in Superman's future and as far as closeness to character go Smallville didn't do a bad job. Although I do prefer the Superman Animated Series Version and why didn't Winslow say Toyman stuff like "Mother would be so proud:\"
Still, he was the only real thing that made this episode watchable and the actor did a great job.
But hey, why not do another Clana story if there's a Season 9?? It's not like we haven't seen that before!:rolleyes:
diinIN
02-06-2009, 10:31 AM
BTW, Toyman looked like the same guy who played the Mandroid man in Supernatural's Season 2 Nightshifter. He was a kind of freaky guy in that too.
saltyweeks
02-06-2009, 10:32 AM
Superman 2 is probably the best of the movies, in the old version or the newer cuts. A lot of people love it and it has been referenced several times on Smallville with a fond, nostalgic feeling. People tend to forget that one of its key parts was Clark Kent "groveling" to Lois Lane and actually giving up his powers and his mission to be with the girl he loves. Of course, he eventually figured out it was the wrong decision. The idea, however, of Clark wanting to throw it all away for love is hardly new. It's actually a big part of the movies and the comics.
Of course, in the comics Lana Lang does not remain a "stupid girl" like a lot of people seem to think-- far from it. I don't think it's a question of whether Smallville is Smallville and Superman is Superman, as they actually haven't done anything on Smallville that's really out of character according to what came before. It's only out of character for those who "think" they know Superman, in a very superficial way. It also ignores about 100 even more crazy subplots in the comic books and previous TV shows.
Heck, Smallville only has ONE ongoing universe (thankfully). They haven't gone out on a limb as much as folks are saying they have, and not half as much as the comics over the years. Have all these folks written DC complaining about the radical changes in Superman? It's only the quality and visibility of Smallville that makes it an easy target. There are certainly things to complain about in Smallville, but being true to the Superman world is not one.
tyson08
02-06-2009, 10:33 AM
Definitely better than "Power" is the first thing I thought. I have to say I enjoyed the whole episode, I could have done without Lana having super-powers but that's something that will not be taken back. I liked the whole concept, I think it easily could have been Lois in for Lana for the investigating and not have the whole sappy love ending. Tom and Kristin did an excellent job for the final scene, even though I didn't find any closure coming from that at all. All in all, I enjoyed the episode and I'll definitely be able to watch it again, unlike "Power".
I got to say to everyone, just four more weeks and then "Infamous" which I'm sure will boost everyone's spirits, which this place desperately needs right about now.
candor
02-06-2009, 11:11 AM
i liked the episode, toyman lived up to what i was expecting ( with the exploding balloons and the smiley face gas mask thing).i could have gone for a clana ending that didn't make it so they cant even be next to one another, they should have just made clark and lana grow apart. ( oh but thats to complicated! /sarcasm )
p.s. i wonder if lex is really dead. there have been a few lex luthors in the comics,but they have gone back to the O.G. lex for about ten years now.
tracerthought
02-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Wow. Talk about from one end of the spectrum to the other when it comes to the fans of this show... Yes I am a lurker too, and get my tidbits from this site, especially enjoying Triplet’s reviews which I love. That being said…
1) I too, have seen every episode, I am a comic book fan, and have been a Superman fan for nearly thirty years… do I consider this episode the worst ever? The simple answer is a resounding no. Not when regular viewers stop and think, this show has gone on for close to a hundred and seventy episodes, or at least will reach that by the end of this season. For those who are angry and bashing the episode, do you really consider this the worst episode ever? A show that averages 22 episodes a season and has gone on for eight years? No other episode comes to mind? Even going back to season one? I can think of at least three to four per season that I have gone…um, okay hope it’s better next week. Episodes like Metamorphosis, Hothead, Craving, Hug, Nocturne, Suspect, Slumber, Magnetic, Hereafter, Covenant, Spell, Ageless, Thirst, Fanatic, Hypnotic, Fragile, Sneeze, Subterranean, Hydro, Noir, Fierce, Hero, Sleeper, Artic, Bride, Bulletproof, and yeah Power. You can't always hit a home run people. It's impossible especially with this eclectic group of fans to please everyone. That's the nature of the beast. Shaking up the status quo, and turning an idea on it's ear. To be creative. Which for all the stumbling blocks that have plagued this show, it's still created some really good powerful stories. Smallville as a whole has been great, but not without certain things that have made me question the writers from time to time. Have they ever produced an episode that has made me go "That's it! I'm no longer watching the show?" Ah, no. Neither have the writers and editors of the comic titles. Have I seen a lot of relatively goofy things in both the show and the comics? Yeah. And a few have gotten an emotional response, but nothing has ever made me go that's it I'm quitting this show, or I'm not reading this title.
2)This show gets viewers period, whether they follow the Superman or DC universe titles to the letter or not. One person in the forum commented it's turned into a soap opera. That’s the idea. Comic books are operatic, and this is an operatic show if you forget the Superman elements to it. Hate to say it, yeah it is a prime time soap opera. So what? And the comics, again a weekly or bi weekly or monthly soap opera for readers.
3) Bedroom scenes with Clark and Lana, are not something I really care about one way or the other. Besides For the one in this episode, my CW affiliate was experiencing technical difficulties, so when the show finally started broadcasting Ollie was in the hospital, in a argument of ideals with Chloe. Maybe I was lucky, but I can always see what the fuss was about later.
4) Closure to Clark and Lana- I’m not in any camp when it comes to fans of this show, and the writers have always pulled the rug out from under me when I thought the story was going to go a certain way…Episodes like Tempest, Arrival, and Zod spring to mind. My thought of the Clark and Lana thing has always been they have been beating a dead horse going all the way back to the end of season three. Lana has always been the stumbling block for the writing department, to keep her character with richness and depth, as well as being multifaceted. Kristen is a great actress, who has had to deal with some of the most bizarre twists to her character ever. And to Kristen’s credit her performance of the character has kept her at the very least likable. But Lana the character was only a small part of the legend of Clark becoming Superman. Even with countless reinterpretations and DC retcons. Does this ending for Clark and Lana provide some sort of closure. Yeah, but the writers had written themselves into a corner. You needed Lana out to make room for Lois, There’s the pay off to think about, fan reaction and support though very important, the writers needed to do it with the general parameters set not only by the producers of the show, honoring the characters of the comic, the licensing, as well as gaining the approval of DC. Not an easy task to accomplish especially when there’s a chance you will upset your core audience. They have tried every other way to end this relationship, Lies, deciet, cheating, Marriage, death, the coarse of the character has come full circle, going all the way back to the well of the pilot episode. No it's not the worst episode ever...
thehenry89
02-06-2009, 11:25 AM
I gave this episode a 1 out of ten, and I have to admit that’s being too kind. I will begin this review with the things that annoyed me the least, because honestly the only redeeming value in this episode was the Toyman.
First, Chloe, she has been written so inconsistently from the beginning of this arch that it’s hard to pin her down from moment to moment. Last week she was a clana cheerleader, the week before that she was telling Clark not to slam her cousin in the door, and this week she’s being cast in the role of villain along with Oliver. This bothers me on several levels; one Chloe is not the villain of the story that’s Lex, and in this episode the Toyman. They’ve turned her from a super hacker to brainiac controlled zombie to murderer without as much as a blink of an eye.
I’m not Chloe’s biggest fan, but I know she doesn’t deserve to be written like some outa control nut bag who kills in the name of justice, and nor does Oliver for that matter.
Speaking of Oliver, WTF in Bride he was willing to kill Lex for no other reason than his last name was Luthour, in Bulletproof he got all haughty with the crooked cops about killing bad guys who got away with their crimes. Now he’s back to being a killer. Consistency anyone?
And while we’re on the subject of contradictory personalities how about that Lana Lang everybody? Last week she was portrayed as a power hungry woman with a vendetta against Lex Luthour, this week she’s Gandhi. She also has a lot of nerve when it comes to lecturing people about murder or any other criminal behavior for that matter. Let’s not forget that this is the same Lana Lang who embezzled millions of dollars from her ex-husband, the same Lana Lang who took a clone of herself and falsified her death (a felony BTW). This is the same woman who kidnapped and tortured a man or had someone else do it for her, and then when he tried to escape she smacked him on the back of the head with a freaking shovel. She wanted to kill Lex in Nemesis, but all of a sudden murder is wrong for her. At this point her character is nothing but a two dimensional caricature of a human being. Saying that I’m glad she’s gone is a complete understatement.
The end of the Clana romance was a cop out. In the beginning I was very interested to see how they would break up, would they figure out that they just weren’t compatible or maybe they’d both realize that things would never work between them because their personality’s and world views were totally at odds with each other. Turns out that the only closure we’re gonna get from those two is the universe’s fault. No it’s not, it’s Lana’s fault, and before I get bum rushed with a lot of “Lana Hater” comments let me just say that no one put a gun to Lana’s head and made her put on that suit she decided that she wanted the power and with great power comes great responsibility every 8 year old who saw Spiderman knows that. I don’t feel sorry for either of them one single bit, they deserve to be apart because anyone his doesn’t’ realize that something as powerful as that suit which was made by Lex Luthour couldn’t be any good, but god forbid Lana had to be a normal person without superpowers making a difference in the world. As if people who aren’t all powerful can’t help their fellow man; Mother Teresa, Gandhi, MLK, St. Thomas Equines, Nelson Mandela, and others couldn’t use super speed or lift a truck over their heads, but they certainly changed the world.
And now my final gripe with this episode and the most disturbing of all Clark Kent hasn’t learned anything since he was a freshman in High school. I could go on forever about how infantile his world views are, but there’s a word limit per post. There are not words to describe how disappointing his actions in this episode were. Instead of confronting Oliver he whines and says he can’t trust him, instead of talking to Chloe like an adult he lectures her about the evils of taking a human life. And the icing on top of the crap cake he trys to kill Lex not because he’s evil and killed all those board members at Luthour corp. Not because he tried to kill him in Arctic, not even because he always wore the same stupid purple shirt every episode, Superman was willing to kill Lex Luthour because he can’t have sex with his girlfriend anymore, how freaking pathetic. It’s not like Lana’s dead, or even hurt really she’s just got Kryptonite under her skin (which BTW is her own fault for putting the stupid suit on in the first place). When he tried to kill that sandman guy he was 17 and Alicia had just been murdered, even when he attacked those thugs in vengeance he was acting out of grief for the death of his father, but to want to kill someone because you can’t be with your girlfriend anymore—lame.
As I said I could rant about this episode forever, but now that I’ve gotten that off my chest I feel better about the joke of an episode I just saw and I am ready to move on to greener pastures.
Thehenry89(who can’t wait for march, and is pleading with Jor-el at the fortress to give me a mind wipe for the last four weeks.)
beresford_st
02-06-2009, 11:26 AM
From a 28 year-old to another, I couldn't agree more. What Lex did was beyond cruel... and he'll be back (in a way or another)....
I didn't cry at the end, but I felt so sad......
BTW, thre writers finally decided to address Lana's necklace issue. I'd been waiting for that since she discovered it in Clark's room in season 6.
well, i'm a 25 year old man and i couldn't stop laughing at that scene. way over the top drama. it wouldn't have been so bad if they hadn't been beating the clana drama into the ground for the past 3 years. nearly every scene they've done together has been dramatic. they can be in the happiest of moods and then within seconds of conversation it turns dramatic. the whole breaking the bead in two was an unusually up side for them, but in true clana fashion, within seconds they were back to the drama. it's like watching a soap. thank zod she's gone!
Mrs. Superman
02-06-2009, 11:30 AM
Honestly I thought Id feel better about this episode after a good nights sleep, but even after I have shaken this nightmare of a horrible story off I still feel it deserves a 1. The ending was so contrived. These characters didn't need to be forced apart for growth, in fact they could have done without the same old "make up they made us break up storyline". My only positive is that when SV is said and done this whole mess will be left on this show, FAR AWAY from the superman legend.
marym
02-06-2009, 11:30 AM
Thank you Saltyweeks! I totally agreed with you! And thank you for the Superman 2 reminder/reference!
I am new to the boards but have been a die hard Superman fan my entire life and I really enjoy Smallville. If you want Superman trivia, just ask me! (Seen every movie, t.v. show, read every comic, book....what can I say, the character brings me up when I need a break from reality!) There is NO single way to do Clark Kent or Superman. He has evolved in many ways and directions over the last 70 years and will continue to do so. Had you ever read the Superboy comics (like I did) you would have thought that Lana and Clark would have been a sure thing if you didn't know that he was destined for Lois. And there is the crux that I think alot of people forget. WE, the audience, know where Clark is headed. Clark does not! Not now. We cannot judge what he should be doing, feeling, thinking based on what WE know. For goodness sake, if any of us knew 5 years ago what we know now, all of us would have probably done stuff differently than we did. Clark has many abilities. Precognizance is NOT one of them!
I actually liked how they resolved the Clana relationship. It is completely within the cruel scope I would expect from Lex. He can't have her so he is going to make dang sure his worst enemy/rival can't have her. Like a stab to the heart in the worst possible way! Too many shows resolve these kind of relationships by killing off the "lesser" character. (No that is not a slam at Lana, I have always liked her, just a reminder that the show is about Clark.) To me, that is the weak, easy way out. This way had way more finesse and nastiness to it. I too thought that Kristin and Tom played out that last scene brilliantly. So incredibly heartbreaking. So very hard to watch.
Just thought I would add my two cents worth.
vyperman7
02-06-2009, 11:32 AM
The episode was better than I thought it would be and definitely better than Power. So as far as it being the worst episode ever, it isn't. However, I am extremely dissapointed at how Clana was handled and there is no possible way that this Clark Kent will ever be ready to become Superman.
Positives :
- Toyman was awesome. I thought they managed to do a good job with the character and he came off as a legitimate threat.
- The actor chosen to play Lex actually looked like MR and his voice sounded similar too. I was worried that the actor chosen to play Lex in this episode would look nothing like MR.
- Oliver was good for the most part in this episode except for the end.
- As much as I HATED the ending, it was extremely emotional and very well-acted. Kudos to TW and KK.
- The episode moved along nicely and didn't drag.
Negatives ( I have a lot of them)
- What in the hell happened to Toyman? He just dissapeared. Kind of dissapointed how they handled that.
- Oliver is now a cold-blooded murderer? Doesn't really speak well for the JLA's standards. Not to mention the fact that Chloe serves as his accomplice.
- Lex is dead? I know that it will most likely be a clone, and MR will be back for the series finale. But still. Saying Lex is dead, is kind of an insult to the intelligence of the audience, because Lex is vital to the future of the story.
- Clana has no real closure. I can't believe that they resorted to the star-crossed lover's syndrome and used Kryptonite in Lana's skin as the reason. Now instead of it being over because the two of them realized they should move on, it comes down to the fact that they would still be together if they could. This goes hand in hand with Lois getting screwed over and being the rebound girl. How can they possibly push Clois anymore this season? One week, Clark still wants to be with Lana, and then the next few episodes he develops feelings for Lois? There won't be nearly enough time that has passed to make this believeable. I can't believe the writers expect us to forget the last five episodes, and just accept Clois now. So poorly handled.
- Clark came off looking like a weak-minded fool and Lana gets a heroic send-off. How messed up is it that Lana looked more like Superman than Clark? I mean, Clark's number one rule is not to kill anyone ever. He has preached this enough times himself. Yet, he is willing to kill Lex so that he and Lana can be together? They totally assisinated Clark's character in this episode and have un-done all of the positive growth he had in the first half of the season. Back to square one as usual. If Clark still isn't ready after 8 years, I don't see how he will ever be ready to become Superman. As it has been said before, they made a mockery out of Clark to please a group of shipper fans. The show is supposed to be about Clark and how he becomes Superman damn-it. We will never see Superman on the show. However, they are supposed to leave us believing that this Clark could be Superman one day. At this point, he never will be. It takes more then the name Clark Kent for it to happen.
Overall :
I found myself liking this episode more then I expected because of Toyman and the pacing of the episode. However, after they assisinated Clark's character and ruined Clois, I have to say that it was the most dissapointed I have been by a Smallville episode in quite sometime. I don't see how Clark can ever recover from this.
6/10 ( It would be higher, if certain aspects had been handled better)
Xcess
02-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the whole "poor Clark can't be with Lana" but it was a nice emotional send off for her. I guess if you think about it, it's very unlikely to end up with your first love, and their's just took 8 years to finally end. I just wish we did't have to go through the whole SuperLana thing, hell it seamed like she was about to put on the tights and cape. I'm waiting for Clark vs. Doomsday II
Minela
02-06-2009, 11:51 AM
Hack job! Chloe and Oliver were the only bright light, after Toyman of course.
blackcelebration
02-06-2009, 11:54 AM
INTRODUCTION
Bing bong bing, 14 and in!
Or something like that…
Ok, before I start this review in a kind of new style, I first want to say that this was a huge improvement over the awfulness that was Power. Although that would also be like saying that Ketchup is better with your Cheese Burger than Gravy!
Not to say this episode sucked, well… it kinda did but there were at least a few cool moments spread here and there that made me go “whoa.” Of course there were problems, loads of them, and those that have been there since Bulletproof *COUGH* Lana, *COUGH* and that little problem since Bride *COUGH* Hey, Chloe your husbands in a critical condition, why not visit him? Or at least MENTION HOW HE IS!!!! – Boy, I wonder why that marriage never worked out… I mean might not work out (Cue sarcasm) *COUGH*
Of course there’s the usual Clark acting like a whiny child whenever Lana’s around and Ollie’s flippy floppy behaviour and Lex’s ultimate plan to BREAKUP CLANA FOREVER…MMMWWHHHAA!!! Yeah, you go Lex! But when the Lex Luthor I knew from the comics or hell from any other film or television media ever made, WHEN THAT LEX LUTHOR TURNS UP… please let me know!
THE TEASER
I gotta admit the teaser blew me away (Pun intended) not only because it was cool but it had the coolness to blow up a bunch of actors who were reciting out their lines like they were performing in a High School Musical Play!
Also, the introduction of Winslow Schott, aka Toyman was cool and creepy and got me right into his character.
So if marks were given for Teasers I’d give this a 10/10.
So… You go Toyman!!!!
THE REST
Clark and Lana breaking the bed just made me puke, honestly… what does that have to do with anything???
Also, why didn’t Chloe just call Clark about Ollie???
“Hey ho Clark, Ollie’s been injured in a bomb”
“Chloe, why didn’t you call me, you know me and SuperLana could run and visit Ollie using our Superspeed!”
“Well Clark, it says so here in the script…”
Chloe looks up towards the PS3 who give her a threatening look,
“I meant err… I didn’t want to disturb you and Lana’s bed banging time”
Huh?
Ok, that was never said but what other rational could possibly be given?
So Clark and Chloe eventually visit Ollie, who is the sole survivor of the bomb because he HID UNDER A TABLE! Well, I’ll remember that the next time the Al-Qeda bomb around my area!
Anyway, Ollie decided not to tell em about Winslow… why? Cos it says so in the script dummies!
Ok, we will know later in the episode but it’s still stupid!
So we find out more about Winslow Schott, who was actually a respected scientist for Queen Industries and designed weapons and all that stuff before going all quacko and designing kids toys with weapons.
This is very similar to the comic character (Except replace Queen Industries with Luthor Cop) and I respect Smallville for that and even more so that they didn’t just make him another Freak of the Week so quodos for that!
Also, the actor who played him did a great job and basically stole every scene he was in.
Actually, the final grade of this episode is going to be balanced by the coolness of Toyman balancing out the rest of this puke ridden drivel. Also, isn’t it sad when a guest character and TOYMAN none the less is given second fiddle to Clana rubbish as he was here…? I MEAN IT’S TOYMAN ONE OF SUPERMAN’S OLDEST FOES!!!!
I found it cool when he was talking with the doll (Very Toyman) and even cooler that Lex was involved!
I thought the actor who replaced Rousembam did ok, not great mind you, but I never really noticed him much but that was perhaps more of a good thing than bad.
Anyway back to SUCKVILLE.
So, Clark and Lana find out that Ollie is lying and also that Lana can digest kryptonite… oh I know where this is going… next, we see Chloe being told by Ollie that he knows who’s involved and that he wants to KILL LEX.
Chloe rightfully pans him for that before Ollie says some crap about how Clark can’t do what is necessary and that Lex can kill him… Well, other than Clone Lana and err marry her… WHAT EVIL HAS LEX EVER TRULY DONE FOR OLLIE TO BELIEVE THAT… Hell, you can even argue that the state Lex is in is because of CLARK AND LANA… It just seems like whenever there’s a problem now everyone blames Lex….
SPOILER FOR NEXT WEEK/SORRY NEXT MONTH… Chloe has a cold and suspects that Lex is responsible, all is proved wrong though when Chloe soon gets better…
Anyhow Chloe agrees to tell Clark cos after eight years of a close friendship and virtually worshipping the ground that Clark walked on, Chloe suddenly knows what’s best. Although, going by the way she’s treating a critically ill Jimmy, What do I mean treating? SHE AIN’T EVEN VISITING HIM IN HOSPITAL…
I know I’ve said that twice but there’s not even been a word of how Jimmy is… I know what you’re thinking… he’s in the comics and we all know he’ll be ok… and by the way Jimmy, when you are better, why don’t you divorce that tipsy turvy blonde, really was Lana Lang for the first five seasons, once was a cool character, a character I had the hots for, who should have died in Abyss or even arguably in Covenant… actually I say this to PS3… KILL OR WRITE OFF CHLOE BEFORE SHE BECOMES LIKE LANA!!!!
Well, there’s more Chloe crap to come, who decides to do all of her research using Ollies jet, even though she owns a multi million pound computer gadget company, Clark arrives and there is a little secret and lies crap between the two but this soon turns to be a cool scene because Clark reminds her that HE NEVER KILLED HER WHEN SHE WAS BRAINIAC AND THAT WAS DESPITE THERE BEING BEINGS FROM THE 31ST CENTURY WHO COULD HAVE DONE THE JOB WITHOUT EVEN WINCING!!
Ok, I made that last bit up but still… You go Clark!!!
Another cool moment of the episode comes when Winslow just enters the hospital with toy balloons and Ollie sees him and just taunts him and calls him a clown… ok Toyman blow that idiot up.
I also loved the toy monkey and the 53 beats and you’re dead scenario, although I swear that monkey beat more than 53 times… still a cool scene.
Another unintentional cool moment comes when Clark arrives (Just after a scene where Chloe lectures Clark about morals- yeah Chloe, by the way “How’s your husband?”) Lana is in the Planet cos The Toyman wants to blow it up and Clark arrives and says “Did you find the bomb?” Lana’s like nah, can’t find it anywhere… Clark though finds it in like 5 seconds and where was the bomb all this time???
THE ROOF OF THE DAILY PLANET!!!!
I mean how can’t you find it??
And the thing is humongous, HOW DIDN’T ANYONE NOTICE THAT THERE WAS THIS HUGE GREEN OBJECT ON THE ROOF OF THE DAILY PLANET??!!!
I can imagine the discussion.
ASSISTANT
We have an interview with the Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Obama wants to
talk about the future and some guy is gonna place some huge green thing that
looks like a bomb on the roof, where if it blows we’re all gonna die!”
CHIEF
Perfect!
There’s a cool moment where Winslow, who was cuffed by Ollie escapes by gassing not only the nurse but Chloe… Who is actually visiting a hospital??? To see Ollie??? Well, at least she knows what a hospital is I suppose!!!
But whilst I would have reacted in horror had Toyman gassed Chloe before Bride, here it gets a big cheer because she is ko’d in a hospital… can you imagine the irony in that???
So again… You go Toyman!
Anyway there’s a Blana moment where they find the bomb and Clark can’t go near it cos it’s made of Kryptonite and only Lana can but in doing so she can’t see Clark again and Lex says “You have to sacrifice Lana or Metropolis??” Clark without thinking says “I’ll sacrifice Lana!” well, to be honest so would I… Lana stops the bomb by digesting loads and loads of Kryptonite cos she couldn’t just throw it into outta space but I suppose anything that gets her away from Clark is a bonus even if it is stupid and contrived!
Clark wants revenge over Lex but lana stops him???
Err shouldn’t this be the opposite?
Especially AS CLARK JUST TOLD CHLOE THAT KILLING LEX WASN’T AN OPTION, ALSO REMEMBER CHLOIAC???
Only Clark could be so lop sided in one episode.
Anyway, Lex’s van blows up… Supposedly killed by Ollie, who gets a lecture by Chloe… hell, with the Police cos it ain’t illegal to kill an already dead man, or so I was told by that film that I forgot what it was called!
So, Lex is declared dead…. AGAIN! And Toyman is responsible cos they found his toy where Lex was killed…?
SPOILER FOR NEXT WEEK/DAMN I MEANT MONTH REALLY! Clark reinvestigates the death of his father and finds evidence that The Toyman could be involved when he remembers that there was a Toy Soldier Clark played with as a kid, near the scene of the crime!!
Some cool stuff though with Ollie taking Lex’s Kryptonite Ring…
Ollie= Lex… well, they’ve done dumber things!
After last weeks rubbish, that wouldn’t surprise me.
So Clark tries to kiss Lana but get all Krypto sick BUT DOESN’T DIE??? Lana leaves before saying “I’ll always love you Clark… I like Pink bla bla” and all those other cliché lines you can think off and err… THAT’S IT???
FINAL THOUGHTS
Toyman rocks, Lana, Clana, Blana is gone… for now, Chloe PLEASE VISIT JIMMY, and Ollie is crazy… or is he Lex???
4/10
Bre723
02-06-2009, 12:01 PM
Oh and here is a little something else, some people are saying that Clark isn't heroic because he is so whipped by lana etc.
I thought it was very herioc of Clark to sacrifice his true love for the well being of the world.
To me, that is pretty heroic, give the guy a break.
You do crazy things sometimes when you are in love.
blackcelebration
02-06-2009, 12:09 PM
Ok maybe I did it myself but if this was moderated...
Clark reinvestigates the death of his father and finds evidence that The Toyman could be involved when he remembers that there was a Toy Soldier Clark played with as a kid, near the scene of the crime!!
Please tell me that's not true... IT WAS A JOKE!!!!
P.S
that last rant was for the Smallville writers not for the moderators!
Also, I liked the idea of doing this so thanks for the idea!
The_Promise
02-06-2009, 12:16 PM
Omg I loved this episode, granted some parts were a little tense and tight but otherwise I LOVED the episode!
Opening with Clana breaking the bed, that was cute and funny, reminds me the the morning after they had first slept together, when they were smiling at each other under the covers. I almost expected them to come down and for Martha to be standing there catching them hehe
Oliver and the nurse, god, that man, hehe
His smile is about 100 watt as Chloe's and every time he grinned at her, I was like, you are so gorgous!
In a weird way I'm both happy and sad that Clark gave Lana her now Kryptonite free necklace back.
I'm sad in the fact that, Clark doesn't have it anymore, it was always his most cherished memory item of Lana.
Happy in that we've known he's had that since "Visage", Lana's known he's had it too foor awhile and finally he gave it back to her, even putting it around her neck. It was a nice mirror to the scene in the Pilot when he gave her necklace back and left the necklace on her door.
Another nice mirror was the talk in the kitchen, when Clark talked about how back then he couldn't get within 5 feet of her (Lana) without falling over because of the Kryptonite in her necklace, when he was putting the necklace on her.
It's a sharp irony that in the beginning they couldn't be together because of the kryptonite, and now in the end of their 8 year relationship, kryptonite is still the reason they can't be together. It literally hurts to love her so much.
Clark and the ashes
That part was really beautiful, especially with how sad Clark looked. He looked like he was saying goodbye to Lex's memory. You know, like he was saying goodbye, not to the man that Lex had become, but to the friend that he had lost.
It was powerful since Chloe mentioned in this episode "Clark, Lex is not the same man that you rescued from that car crash eight years ago" or something to that extent so I wonder if Clark was having flashback in his mind when they used to be friends.
Chloe and Oliver both stunned me in this episode, first with Oliver framing the toyman for Lex's "murder" and this man is supposed to be the good Green Arrow? He just "murdered" Lex. I get it that he was angry with Lex for his parents death but I hoped Oliver had pushed beyond that point of revenge.
I was disappointed, by Oliver AND Chloe, I never thought Chloe would condone killing another human being, just to save others, hasn't hangiing around Clark for 8+ years taught her that KILLING IS NOT THE ANSWER CAUSE IT WON'T CHANGE THE DAMAGE ALREADY DONE! Chloe working with Oliver behind Clark's back, lying to Clark and then betraying Oliver's trust by giving the info to Clark and then condoning murder to protect Clark.
On a side note, in that last scene did anyone else think that Chloe and Oliver were standing waaaay too close to each other? I almost expected them to start making out with each other or something.
Even if the person was going to hurt other people, violence met with violence is never the answer. That's what Lana was telling Clark in the last scene when he was going to go kill Lex. Killing Lex would have destroyed everything that Clark is, I'm glad Lana stopped him.
The moments of reflection of everyone was nice, as we got to see everyone's emotions for a moments and it was hard to see Lana hugging Chloe so tightly, both in emotional pain and as a hug of goodbye. I wonder if that last scene was hard for Kristin and Allison.
That last scene, I KNEW they couldn't let Lana go without a final Clana loft scene, it's tradition. It broke my heart completely!
I'll admit, I got teary eyed but I didnt cry, yet. I probably will later, I can never cry in front of my family, it's just a thing with me.
I just couldn't help it, it was so emotionally exhausting and so tragically sad! It broke my heart!
I thought I was well over the Clark and Lana thing, but that last scene was so sad!
I agree it's time Lana left, I thought I was finally over them being together.
I thought just maybe I could put it behind me.
I was wrong.
But a true shipper love never truly dies, the flame just dims until something is added to rekindle it.
I've always loved Clark and Lana together, they've always been and always will be my favourite Smallville couple. That first scene in the graveyard, October 16th 2001, made me fall in love with them as a couple and helped me love the series for as long as I have.
It's been almost a comfort to depend on their rollercoaster love over these past eight years, even thought you watch knowing who Clark will end up with and yet you can't help but think...maybe THIS time, they'll work it out, you know.
Like maybe the writers will change the "Smallville" storyline and let Clark and Lana be happy and live happily ever after together.
Just because I KNEW this was coming, doesn't make the emotional heartache I feel for them any less but it makes me miss THEM more.
Goodbye Lana Lang / Thank you Kristin Kreuk
For my high school life, you were my role model.
For my teen - young adult life, you were my friend
For my adult life, you were a tragic and beautiful comfort.
I'm 21 now and this show has changed my life, more than you will ever know.
Thanks For The Memories, I'll Miss You.
Everytime Lana started to cry whenever Clark came closer because she didn't want to hurt him, I was like Ohhhh Lana! That kiss wasn't the most beautiful kiss as far as greening up Clark's face but the had to do that to show the Kryptonite, I get that but all the words they said to each other were amazing.
Clark "What we have is beautiful"
I like that they mentioned the scene in the cemetary when Clark and Lana first had their Clana moment and I remember afterwards, he walked her home and she kissed him on the cheek. It was a nice way to help close the door on their love and yet leave things wide open to hear from "Lana" or OF Lana doing things around the globe.
All in all, it was a beautiful episode I will always cherish.
Thank you Smallville.
Night-Wolf
02-06-2009, 12:18 PM
Oh and here is a little something else, some people are saying that Clark isn't heroic because he is so whipped by lana etc.
I thought it was very herioc of Clark to sacrifice his true love for the well being of the world.
To me, that is pretty heroic, give the guy a break.
You do crazy things sometimes when you are in love.
Agreed:D! People can say what they want about Clark when it comes to Clana, but at the end he made the right decision and it was him who made it first. He was the one who told Lana that she had to disable the bomb, knowing that after she absorves the kriptonite they could never be together again.
stenochick
02-06-2009, 12:24 PM
I am finally able to get some online time. I started rewatching Requiem while catching up on ironing, but have not finished rewatching it yet.
I have to say that I have totally come around 180 degrees regarding this whole Clark regressing thing with Lana. Yes, he is blinded by romantic love. He tells Lana not to trust Olliver because according to Lana, Ollie went behind Clark's back to kill Lex. Hello?????? Who else does Clark know that kept secrets from him about a Lex vendetta? But, these two are really in love and who am I to tell them that they aren't?
I put all my griping about stuff like that, as well as any plot holes and inconsistencies, to sleep with a beer, and just let myself get caught up in the deeper story -- the myth of it all, if you will. This is a way more entertaining way to watch Smallville. It's not CSI, after all.
1. The dude who played Toyman can really bring the crazy! And I loved that scene with Ollie in the hospital room. Speaking of which --
2. I loved Olliver Queen in Requiem, the quips ("Met's newest power couple"), the sarcasm, the stepping over the line to the dark side.
3. I loved Chloe in Requiem. I know, I know, she needs to be with Jimmy. But in my mind, Star City is a town near Smallville, just like Grandville, so she is only driving on an interstate for a few miles.
Plus, Lois is probably a lot of fun for Jimmy to be with in the hospital. He just needs to get well, with or without his conflicted wife. Also, being there for jimmy in his time of need is a great way for Lois to get over her Clark blues.
I have to remember that these characters are half my age and are going to struggle with important moral and spiritual questions such as, is taking life ever justifiable and if so, under what circumstances?
I know some people feel that this moral ambiguity is making Chloe look bad, but to me it is so much better than when she was written as a Mary Sue and I like watching AM sink her teeth into meatier material. I can't wait for what is coming up with Chloe.
Before I get to the main Lex-Clana arc, I wanted to address the concern that people feel that everyone is becoming a superhero before Clark becomes Superman and that cheapens Clark. I have changed my opinion on this as well.
Clark's power is internal, it is intrinsic, it is part of who he is as a non-human. He is biding his time and carefully weighing his options and learning from all his mistakes and experiences because the stakes are so much higher for him.
Lex, Tess, Chloe, Olliver, and Lana have no inherent super powers and are going through a different process than Clark. So far, we have seen their fatal flaws and the cracks in their armour revealed. I think Clark is going about it the right way, judging from Lana's results and from decisions made by Chloe, and Ollie that will come back to bite them as well.
4. I loved "Lex" in Requiem. They did a great job of concealing enough of him that a lookalike could play him. The actor had enough of Lex's manner of speaking down that I could pretend that it was MR's Lex.
Now that Lex is 100% evil, he does not need a seasoned actor like MR to portray him with any kind of nuance or inner conflict. He just needs a bald head and a voice box.
5. I loved how Lex, being three steps ahead, had the suit, Lana's very skin, absorb Kryptonite forcing Clana to choose between saving the world or being together. Very Phantom of the Opera, Romeo and Juliet, and every other tragic romance.
But, this is also very Lex. The sheer cruelty alone is very Lex. This is far worse for Clark and Lana then Lex killing Lana or killing Clark or doing anything to Clark that did not involve Lana.
The reason I didn't roll my eyes over this Greek tragedy unfolding before my eyes is because Lana had the free will to decide to either destroy the suit or wear the suit. Had she chosen to destroy the suit, she would be able to be with Clark. Oh, the irony. It's just so tragic.
Lana Lang donned that suit so that she could be invincible, so that she could live and work side by side with Clark but that very decision has now prevented her from being anywhere near him.
By her desire and acquisition of invincibility, she has become Clark's greatest weakness, the only thing that he knows of that can kill him.
She now has no choice but to leave him and let him grieve their loss and hopefully fall in love with someone else and build a life with that person. And vice versa. Clark needs to let Lana grieve and let her fall in love and build a life with someone if that is what she wants.
But, at this point, I think Lana has had enough of being in relationships and will prefer to be a solo superheroine. And I daresay that Lana, albeit subconsciously, chose the suit over Clark last summer.
I think at this point, regarding Clana, TPTB need to let it be. The story is finished, just like you know when your painting is finished and you have to just stop and not put anymore paint on the canvas. Please no season 9 plot to cure Lana of her krypto-absorption so she can be with Clark.
I thought it was beautiful storytelling. I give it a 9 because my ratings are heavily Clois-weighted so without Lois in an episode the highest I can go is 9.
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Duke823
02-06-2009, 12:26 PM
i also thought that last night's episode was really sad especially the ending what a way to end the lana/clark relationship. Im going to miss that especially since ive been rooting for it too happen for so long but anyways im really interested to see how they will end the season i hear there may not be a season 9 due to actor availability but don't quote me on that. I was also thinking that they should do a tv movie with smallville as clark being superman and showing all the characters in their lives and see what has happened to them. Anyone agree disagree? Id like to hear some of your thoughts on this one.
Superman's_Wife
02-06-2009, 12:29 PM
Oh my gosh! This is the thing that is so annoying. People "leave" Smallville because of one episode, or many episodes, when you know it will get better. In all honesty, I'm not trying to be mean, but the last sentence about the bedroom scenes is not a reason to quit watching a show.
At the end of the day people have their own individual limits. I don't blame anyone for leaving after this Lana fiasco. It was pretty disrespectful to the majority of fans. Everyone basically got pushed aside for the sake of Lana Lang.
Characters suffered. Fans suffered. Ratings suffered.
So before I say how unwise someone is for leaving, I'd much rather focus on how unwise PS3 where in ever creating this garbage they dared to pass off as an acceptable mid-season arc.
BWOracle
02-06-2009, 12:37 PM
I gave this episode a 10 and the whole 5 episode Lana arc a 10 (although the quality of the episodes varied).
Anyone giving this episode a 1 is simply not a fan of Smallville. Where have you guys been the last 8 years? The core of the show (ending with Requiem) has been the Clark/Lana/Lex dynamic. Simply ending that triangle with a poor quality video made in Thailand with KK wasn’t enough. The whole story has come full circle.
Lana and Clark had the ultimate choice between their love and saving thousands or even millions. In the end they made the sacrifice and gave Lex what he wanted.
All great love stories that don’t end with “Happily Ever After” usually end tragically ala Romeo & Juliet.
The ending of Requiem was a proper ending for the relationship. Clark can now move on because he had no choice but to make the choice he did. He can also be secure in the knowledge that Lana is safe (now that she’s invulnerable). He can truly put it in his past.
Anything that happened in the Lana/Clark relationship does not diminish whatsoever the Lois/Clark relationship.
Clark has loved Lana at least since he was 10. His romantic relationship with Lois only began less than half a season ago. Did you really just expect him to give up the love of his life (to this point) so easily? In the real world, would any of us? Not a chance.
The man is virtually immortal. Lois will be his second great love (are we limited to only one great love in our lives?). He’s probably got at least another 10 to go.
I like that they tied up all the loose ends of their relationship. Especially the crystal (that kept them apart in the beginning and parallels what keeps them apart at the end) which we know from the Hereafter episode Lana has on her deathbed.
There was a lot of negative reaction to Lana ending up with superpowers…why? We’ve had dozens of superpowered characters (humans and aliens) on the show already. What’s one more?
Why can’t the mythos evolve? It’s been evolving for 70 years. If it hadn’t, Superman would never have flown…he’d just be leaping tall buildings. Plus, Lana’s character is probably the least well defined…changing from version to version. If the mythos doesn’t evolve, there is no creativity. Those who complain about the changing mythos should just pull out old DVDs and comic books and re-watch and re-read what came before because otherwise there’s no point to creating new versions.
If the same things were done to Chloe that were done to Lana, no one would be complaining (the posters on this site are seriously anti-Lana). And speaking of double standards, I don’t recall hearing anyone complain about Clark being stopped by Lois from killing the sandman who killed Alicia. We must remember that Clark is still young even thought TW isn’t and is motivated as much by emotion as logic.
And the final capper on the episode was the casting of the Toy Man. The actor set the right tone and it was nice to see that he didn’t end up dead or in a coma but could still come back.
I was disappointed by the lack of a trailer for the next episode.
I really don’t know why the negative nellies even get out of bed in the morning with such a depressing view of life. Now that the Lana arc is over, maybe we can all move on as well.
Clana Kent
02-06-2009, 12:38 PM
One of the most important episodes of S8 and one of the best (Toyman was cool)!
Clana Closure should've been better, cause I don't like it like this. Lana should somehow get rid of the suit and live happily ever after. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN THEY AREN'T TOGETHER IN THE MYTHOS! THEY'RE JUST MEANT TO BE!
I give it a 10, because it was perfect except for the closure!
hatie123
02-06-2009, 12:46 PM
Ok, I hate that everone is being so mean to Clark. He was raised by humans so he sometimes has the same problems humans do. For anyone who has had dealt with relationships knows it's hard to let your first love go. We need give Clark a break. When him & Lana were on the roof, it was Clark that took charge and said Lana had to get rid of the bomb. I feel he has grown a lot this season and the reason he acted the way he did in the barn was because Lana was so upset. Deep down Clark knows what his destiny is. Let's leave Clana alone, they suffered enough. If we want Clark to move then we all have to too!!!!!!!!!.
newbaggy
02-06-2009, 12:53 PM
INTRODUCTION
Bing bong bing, 14 and in!
Or something like that…
Ok, before I start this review in a kind of new style, I first want to say that this was a huge improvement over the awfulness that was Power. Although that would also be like saying that Ketchup is better with your Cheese Burger than Gravy!
Not to say this episode sucked, well… it kinda did but there were at least a few cool moments spread here and there that made me go “whoa.” Of course there were problems, loads of them, and those that have been there since Bulletproof *COUGH* Lana, *COUGH* and that little problem since Bride *COUGH* Hey, Chloe your husbands in a critical condition, why not visit him? Or at least MENTION HOW HE IS!!!! – Boy, I wonder why that marriage never worked out… I mean might not work out (Cue sarcasm) *COUGH*
Of course there’s the usual Clark acting like a whiny child whenever Lana’s around and Ollie’s flippy floppy behaviour and Lex’s ultimate plan to BREAKUP CLANA FOREVER…MMMWWHHHAA!!! Yeah, you go Lex! But when the Lex Luthor I knew from the comics or hell from any other film or television media ever made, WHEN THAT LEX LUTHOR TURNS UP… please let me know!
THE TEASER
I gotta admit the teaser blew me away (Pun intended) not only because it was cool but it had the coolness to blow up a bunch of actors who were reciting out their lines like they were performing in a High School Musical Play!
Also, the introduction of Winslow Schott, aka Toyman was cool and creepy and got me right into his character.
So if marks were given for Teasers I’d give this a 10/10.
So… You go Toyman!!!!
THE REST
Clark and Lana breaking the bed just made me puke, honestly… what does that have to do with anything???
Also, why didn’t Chloe just call Clark about Ollie???
“Hey ho Clark, Ollie’s been injured in a bomb”
“Chloe, why didn’t you call me, you know me and SuperLana could run and visit Ollie using our Superspeed!”
“Well Clark, it says so here in the script…”
Chloe looks up towards the PS3 who give her a threatening look,
“I meant err… I didn’t want to disturb you and Lana’s bed banging time”
Huh?
Ok, that was never said but what other rational could possibly be given?
So Clark and Chloe eventually visit Ollie, who is the sole survivor of the bomb because he HID UNDER A TABLE! Well, I’ll remember that the next time the Al-Qeda bomb around my area!
Anyway, Ollie decided not to tell em about Winslow… why? Cos it says so in the script dummies!
Ok, we will know later in the episode but it’s still stupid!
So we find out more about Winslow Schott, who was actually a respected scientist for Queen Industries and designed weapons and all that stuff before going all quacko and designing kids toys with weapons.
This is very similar to the comic character (Except replace Queen Industries with Luthor Cop) and I respect Smallville for that and even more so that they didn’t just make him another Freak of the Week so quodos for that!
Also, the actor who played him did a great job and basically stole every scene he was in.
Actually, the final grade of this episode is going to be balanced by the coolness of Toyman balancing out the rest of this puke ridden drivel. Also, isn’t it sad when a guest character and TOYMAN none the less is given second fiddle to Clana rubbish as he was here…? I MEAN IT’S TOYMAN ONE OF SUPERMAN’S OLDEST FOES!!!!
I found it cool when he was talking with the doll (Very Toyman) and even cooler that Lex was involved!
I thought the actor who replaced Rousembam did ok, not great mind you, but I never really noticed him much but that was perhaps more of a good thing than bad.
Anyway back to SUCKVILLE.
So, Clark and Lana find out that Ollie is lying and also that Lana can digest kryptonite… oh I know where this is going… next, we see Chloe being told by Ollie that he knows who’s involved and that he wants to KILL LEX.
Chloe rightfully pans him for that before Ollie says some crap about how Clark can’t do what is necessary and that Lex can kill him… Well, other than Clone Lana and err marry her… WHAT EVIL HAS LEX EVER TRULY DONE FOR OLLIE TO BELIEVE THAT… Hell, you can even argue that the state Lex is in is because of CLARK AND LANA… It just seems like whenever there’s a problem now everyone blames Lex….
SPOILER FOR NEXT WEEK/SORRY NEXT MONTH… Chloe has a cold and suspects that Lex is responsible, all is proved wrong though when Chloe soon gets better…
Anyhow Chloe agrees to tell Clark cos after eight years of a close friendship and virtually worshipping the ground that Clark walked on, Chloe suddenly knows what’s best. Although, going by the way she’s treating a critically ill Jimmy, What do I mean treating? SHE AIN’T EVEN VISITING HIM IN HOSPITAL…
I know I’ve said that twice but there’s not even been a word of how Jimmy is… I know what you’re thinking… he’s in the comics and we all know he’ll be ok… and by the way Jimmy, when you are better, why don’t you divorce that tipsy turvy blonde, really was Lana Lang for the first five seasons, once was a cool character, a character I had the hots for, who should have died in Abyss or even arguably in Covenant… actually I say this to PS3… KILL OR WRITE OFF CHLOE BEFORE SHE BECOMES LIKE LANA!!!!
Well, there’s more Chloe crap to come, who decides to do all of her research using Ollies jet, even though she owns a multi million pound computer gadget company, Clark arrives and there is a little secret and lies crap between the two but this soon turns to be a cool scene because Clark reminds her that HE NEVER KILLED HER WHEN SHE WAS BRAINIAC AND THAT WAS DESPITE THERE BEING BEINGS FROM THE 31ST CENTURY WHO COULD HAVE DONE THE JOB WITHOUT EVEN WINCING!!
Ok, I made that last bit up but still… You go Clark!!!
Another cool moment of the episode comes when Winslow just enters the hospital with toy balloons and Ollie sees him and just taunts him and calls him a clown… ok Toyman blow that idiot up.
I also loved the toy monkey and the 53 beats and you’re dead scenario, although I swear that monkey beat more than 53 times… still a cool scene.
Another unintentional cool moment comes when Clark arrives (Just after a scene where Chloe lectures Clark about morals- yeah Chloe, by the way “How’s your husband?”) Lana is in the Planet cos The Toyman wants to blow it up and Clark arrives and says “Did you find the bomb?” Lana’s like nah, can’t find it anywhere… Clark though finds it in like 5 seconds and where was the bomb all this time???
THE ROOF OF THE DAILY PLANET!!!!
I mean how can’t you find it??
And the thing is humongous, HOW DIDN’T ANYONE NOTICE THAT THERE WAS THIS HUGE GREEN OBJECT ON THE ROOF OF THE DAILY PLANET??!!!
I can imagine the discussion.
ASSISTANT
We have an interview with the Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Obama wants to
talk about the future and some guy is gonna place some huge green thing that
looks like a bomb on the roof, where if it blows we’re all gonna die!”
CHIEF
Perfect!
There’s a cool moment where Winslow, who was cuffed by Ollie escapes by gassing not only the nurse but Chloe… Who is actually visiting a hospital??? To see Ollie??? Well, at least she knows what a hospital is I suppose!!!
But whilst I would have reacted in horror had Toyman gassed Chloe before Bride, here it gets a big cheer because she is ko’d in a hospital… can you imagine the irony in that???
So again… You go Toyman!
Anyway there’s a Blana moment where they find the bomb and Clark can’t go near it cos it’s made of Kryptonite and only Lana can but in doing so she can’t see Clark again and Lex says “You have to sacrifice Lana or Metropolis??” Clark without thinking says “I’ll sacrifice Lana!” well, to be honest so would I… Lana stops the bomb by digesting loads and loads of Kryptonite cos she couldn’t just throw it into outta space but I suppose anything that gets her away from Clark is a bonus even if it is stupid and contrived!
Clark wants revenge over Lex but lana stops him???
Err shouldn’t this be the opposite?
Especially AS CLARK JUST TOLD CHLOE THAT KILLING LEX WASN’T AN OPTION, ALSO REMEMBER CHLOIAC???
Only Clark could be so lop sided in one episode.
Anyway, Lex’s van blows up… Supposedly killed by Ollie, who gets a lecture by Chloe… hell, with the Police cos it ain’t illegal to kill an already dead man, or so I was told by that film that I forgot what it was called!
So, Lex is declared dead…. AGAIN! And Toyman is responsible cos they found his toy where Lex was killed…?
SPOILER FOR NEXT WEEK/DAMN I MEANT MONTH REALLY! Clark reinvestigates the death of his father and finds evidence that The Toyman could be involved when he remembers that there was a Toy Soldier Clark played with as a kid, near the scene of the crime!!
Some cool stuff though with Ollie taking Lex’s Kryptonite Ring…
Ollie= Lex… well, they’ve done dumber things!
After last weeks rubbish, that wouldn’t surprise me.
So Clark tries to kiss Lana but get all Krypto sick BUT DOESN’T DIE??? Lana leaves before saying “I’ll always love you Clark… I like Pink bla bla” and all those other cliché lines you can think off and err… THAT’S IT???
FINAL THOUGHTS
Toyman rocks, Lana, Clana, Blana is gone… for now, Chloe PLEASE VISIT JIMMY, and Ollie is crazy… or is he Lex???
4/10
blackcelebration, I was all set to add a review, only to see that you wrote almost everything I wanted to say - even down to the score!
I will add a couple of points:
1) Lex.
Fine, I know they had to use a double for Michael Rosenbaum, I have no problem with that. But there were a couple of things that I wished they had changed. Firstly, the "poor man's Darth Vader" voice changer - sorry, but they needed to come up with a creepier voice than that. Secondly, I think director Michael Rohl showed too much of Lex, especially as the show's limited budget means that there isn't much worth seeing. Personally, I would have preferred Lex shot as lots of extreme close-ups: an eye, his disfigured skin, the mask (without seeing the face), part of his life-support gear. Keep him as this shadowy figure that we only see parts of, and let the viewer's imagination do the rest.
2) The Clana "parting"
Yes, "only my Kryptonite-infused superpowered dermal layer will keep us apart" as a reason for the Clana breakup was titanically lousy. Especially, as it seemed no more final than any of the other Clana breakups that we've had over the years. And it made Clark look like a complete idiot. But what made the supposedly "tearjerking" final scene completely and utterly hilarious was Clark's determination to kiss Lana and Lana not only letting him, but kissing him back! I understand that if you are playing the final scene as Clark still being completely in love with Lana, he might try for one last kiss - even if it does make him look suicidal (and stupid...and a moron)! However, Lana is supposed to love him back, she is supposed to have realised that if Clark comes near her, he will die. So, even as he gets weaker, she stands there and lets him stagger up to her and kiss her. She even reciprocates, prolonging the kiss until he falls to his knees! Lana could have been giving Clark a fatal dose of Kryptonite for all she knew, but she didn't try to pull away, didn't even try to run away (surely possible once Clark started to be weakened by the Kryptonite). Far from star-crossed lovers forced apart by cruel Fate, it made them look like immature teenagers who couldn't tell the difference between lust and love.
That final scene, indeed the whole Lana arc, could have been genuinely poignant and given Clana genuine closure. But PS3 would have had to allowed us to see Lana's imperfections as well as strengths, making her a rounded individual, not the "practically-perfect-in-every-way" characature that we got in the last five episodes. They would also have had to create a genuine relationship between Clark and Lana - not blind worship - that broke up because they realised that they were no longer suited for each other. Instead, we got the usual empty sham, Clark and Lana getting back together and breaking up on a showrunner's whim, with the audience given no credible reason as to why they should or should not be together. What a waste.
pizzahead2490
02-06-2009, 12:56 PM
i gave this eppy a 1 at first but now as i watched it over again i give it a 6 :)
tibbit78
02-06-2009, 01:12 PM
I am waiting for Cedric's review.
Today is Friday and Requiem has 23 pages. This will have more pages than power. Awesome!
thehenry89
02-06-2009, 01:16 PM
I am waiting for Cedric's review.
Me too
pizzahead2490
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
i dont think the episode was as bad as it seems guys.
blackcelebration
02-06-2009, 01:20 PM
blackcelebration, I was all set to add a review, only to see that you wrote almost everything I wanted to say - even down to the score!
I will add a couple of points:
1) Lex.
Fine, I know they had to use a double for Michael Rosenbaum, I have no problem with that. But there were a couple of things that I wished they had changed. Firstly, the "poor man's Darth Vader" voice changer - sorry, but they needed to come up with a creepier voice than that. Secondly, I think director Michael Rohl showed too much of Lex, especially as the show's limited budget means that there isn't much worth seeing. Personally, I would have preferred Lex shot as lots of extreme close-ups: an eye, his disfigured skin, the mask (without seeing the face), part of his life-support gear. Keep him as this shadowy figure that we only see parts of, and let the viewer's imagination do the rest.
I never minded Lex actually, he is still kind off mysterious to me and they could have done much, much worse.
2) The Clana "parting"
Yes, "only my Kryptonite-infused superpowered dermal layer will keep us apart" as a reason for the Clana breakup was titanically lousy. Especially, as it seemed no more final than any of the other Clana breakups that we've had over the years. And it made Clark look like a complete idiot. But what made the supposedly "tearjerking" final scene completely and utterly hilarious was Clark's determination to kiss Lana and Lana not only letting him, but kissing him back! I understand that if you are playing the final scene as Clark still being completely in love with Lana, he might try for one last kiss - even if it does make him look suicidal (and stupid...and a moron)! However, Lana is supposed to love him back, she is supposed to have realised that if Clark comes near her, he will die. So, even as he gets weaker, she stands there and lets him stagger up to her and kiss her. She even reciprocates, prolonging the kiss until he falls to his knees! Lana could have been giving Clark a fatal dose of Kryptonite for all she knew, but she didn't try to pull away, didn't even try to run away (surely possible once Clark started to be weakened by the Kryptonite). Far from star-crossed lovers forced apart by cruel Fate, it made them look like immature teenagers who couldn't tell the difference between lust and love.
That final scene, indeed the whole Lana arc, could have been genuinely poignant and given Clana genuine closure. But PS3 would have had to allowed us to see Lana's imperfections as well as strengths, making her a rounded individual, not the "practically-perfect-in-every-way" characature that we got in the last five episodes. They would also have had to create a genuine relationship between Clark and Lana - not blind worship - that broke up because they realised that they were no longer suited for each other. Instead, we got the usual empty sham, Clark and Lana getting back together and breaking up on a showrunner's whim, with the audience given no credible reason as to why they should or should not be together. What a waste.
And not only that but it didn't even feel like an ending or a closure more of a "To be Continued" scenario.
That's why I wrote at the end THAT'S IT?? because it honestly didn't feel like these two were suddenly going to break up AFTER SEVEN YEARS, it was more of a problem and that Clark was very determinded to help Lana (Hell, he even risked his life for her just to get a kiss)
There wasn't even any corny Lana superspeeding out of town or anything to suggest she would be leaving (Although that's no bad thing to be honest:lol:) but still had I never read the description of this episode I would have thought that she would be back by next episode.:\
supes0
02-06-2009, 01:25 PM
That's why I wrote at the end THAT'S IT?? because it honestly didn't feel like these two were suddenly going to break up AFTER SEVEN YEARS, it was more of a problem and that Clark was very determinded to help Lana (Hell, he even risked his life for her just to get a kiss)
There wasn't even any corny Lana superspeeding out of town or anything to suggest she would be leaving (Although that's no bad thing to be honest:lol:) but still had I never read the description of this episode I would have thought that she wouldn't be back next episode.:\
Exactly. There was no closure at all. Clark risks his life to kiss her, he is determined to save her. The logical next step would be for Clark to be out exhausting every resource to find a cure for the love of his life. No other option makes any sense.
ticker
02-06-2009, 01:28 PM
A big fat 1 from me. Everything got trashed in this season just because of the stupid Lana arc.
It's the first 1 I ever gave and it's fully deserved. Now Clark is a whiny little baby again... what a load of ... !!! I'd have given it a "minus infinity" if the poll had this option!!!
I was hoping for a better episode, for Clark to get closure but now...
PS3 just single-handedly killed Smallville! Way to go guys! Congratulations!
I thought this episode did a wonderful job of wrapping up Clark and Lana's relationship. I was really wondering how they were going to do it, and what a twist of fate that was at the end! Lana couldn't have foreseen Lex's true motives for Promethius. A perfect weapon. I must say that I'm completely excited to see what happens next! Up to this point I couldn't really see how they could believably end Clark's pining for Lana sufficiently enough for him to leave behind his first love for Lois. Unless they killed her or something, but this is even better! Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Clana fan, but I wouldn't have had them end this any other way. This is Clark's ultimate lesson in sacrifice and control. I felt it was completely relevant and necessary for someone to stop him from killing Lex, and even better that it was his newly lost love. He's still on his journey, and this would be the most pressing and profound excuse to kill a villain. He's against killing, yes, but his self-restraint has never been tested in such a despicable and raw fashion. I think I would have run to kill Lex had I been in his shoes. On another note, the Oliver/Chloe/Clark triangle was fascinating! The twisted views of justice, the ideals of trust and the blurred lines that may be crossed, all of it was wonderfully played by each person. The person playing Lex did a lovely job of sitting still and looking like him in one eye.;) And finally, the goodbye scene. Holy crap. I am a 22 year old man and only one other time has Smallville made me cry, and in this scene, it got me again! Tom played the emotional and physical pain to a tee. It was so moving, and Kristin's pain was just as honest and heart-wrenching. These two actors have some of the most amazing chemistry I've ever seen onscreen, and it shines bright as the sun in this final goodbye.
geminis
02-06-2009, 01:36 PM
*Is calm, having just returned from being mind wiped. * Smallville was on? Really?
What a shame, my DVR must have sensed the absence of Lois and there was a recording error.
Whew, that was a close one; I might have gone insane, rather than simply crazy. But because I'm crazy and from what I've been reading, I'm going with a big fat 1.
Mrs. Superman
02-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Exactly. There was no closure at all. Clark risks his life to kiss her, he is determined to save her. The logical next step would be for Clark to be out exhausting every resource to find a cure for the love of his life. No other option makes any sense.
Yep, I have no idea what they were thinking when they wrote this or where they even wanted to take this afterwards (if they even thought about that, doesn't seem like they did). It was epic alright..an EPIC FAIL!!!
stenochick
02-06-2009, 01:41 PM
What Lex did by separating Clark and Lana was beyond cruel but Clark will be the victor because he will realize that he has feelings for Lois and will learn that we are not destined to be with just one person.
You can love someone deeply as a young man, lose them, and then love someone on an even deeper level in marriage as a mature man. We all know the ending. Clark does grow from this and that will be his revenge on Lex.
I think he has feelings for Lois that have obviously been on hold but when she returns she will make those feelings stir and he will have to figure out where he wants to take things with Lois. He could have these feelings but suppress them and just stay friends with Lois for season 8, until he grieves and figures things out.
Exactly. There was no closure at all. Clark risks his life to kiss her, he is determined to save her. The logical next step would be for Clark to be out exhausting every resource to find a cure for the love of his life. No other option makes any sense.
I actually felt a sense of finality from Clark after she left. He seemed to know and have the full effect of what happened sink in here. After the kiss, he can see that there is no other way, and barely even manages to respond with "I love you too" simply because he knows it's likely the last thing he ever says to her. To me it was like he just realized in his soul that trying is futile; he can't beat this enemy. I think until now Clark felt that his powers could in some way fix almost everything. That he could go fast enough or be strong enough, but this kiss is a realization and turning point for him, and he can go nowhere but forward from now on! He has been growing a lot and I do not think he'll be whiny and annoying after this. He'll be sad, for sure, but now he can be pushed by Chloe and comforted by Lois. Then we can see the Clark that is Superman begin to emerge. After all, he's not naturally all self-sacrificing, it's instilled in him from his parents, and all the other people he has loved, lost, and encountered. Lol anyway that's just my take on it.
LoveHurts38
02-06-2009, 01:49 PM
I got to say to everyone, just four more weeks and then "Infamous" which I'm sure will boost everyone's spirits, which this place desperately needs right about now.
Which I am waiting for:D
lifelovedestiny
02-06-2009, 01:54 PM
I gave it a 2. It really didn't do anything for me. The whole storyline was weird and I just didn't like it. The only reason I didn't give it a 1 was because Lana left.
supes0
02-06-2009, 01:56 PM
To me it was like he just realized in his soul that trying is futile; he can't beat this enemy. I think until now Clark felt that his powers could in some way fix almost everything. That he could go fast enough or be strong enough, but this kiss is a realization and turning point for him, and he can go nowhere but forward from now on!
But that isn't Superman. He doesn't give up on people, especially the people he loves. There is precedence for the story we saw last night.
Clark had a great friend, Mon-El, he is from Daxam, lead is lethal to Mon-El and he is going to die. He puts Mon-El in the Phantom Zone, the only way to save him, then promises to find a cure for him. And this is what he does. We see him struggling from the time it happens to his adult life. He talks to Mon-El through a portal, he works with him to find a cure. So far he hasn't found one, but he keeps trying.
He can't be physically near Lana, but he can communicate with her. He should be working with her and others to find a cure.
Clark's powers can't fix everything, but he has access to the Fortress. He has access to people who could help him. To not try to find a cure doesn't make any sense.
josue_can
02-06-2009, 01:58 PM
Great episode. Great send off for Lana. Hope she never comes back. although the ending was pretty touching. OK, now that shes gone we can get to more important things.
All about Clark
02-06-2009, 02:00 PM
I'm giving it an 9. It was good to me. I like that the Clana is finally over. My problem with it lies in how it relates to the future. If Kryptonite changes Lana into a villian, how could Clark stop her, he can't. I guess, really good that it wasn't Lex. And this means that only a clone of Lex can return to give Superman trouble and may not have the more recent memories of Clark being an alien. I'm glad that Clark and company have a break from worrying about Lex.
What I liked about it was that Lex wanted the powers and could protect himself from Clark by absorbing the kryptonite for himself, and that it was win-win if Lana beat him to it. That part really was great in showing Lex thinking steps ahead.
I also liked that Chloe and Oliver each have something on the other in order to keep their secrets from Clark. And Chloe trying to blame Braniac when I didn't find that true and neither did Oliver.
I also liked that the Toyman got away to cause further issues.
So for me, I was pretty happy with this, although I would have been happier if it ended with Clark not wanting Lana anymore. That was hard to swallow.
geminis
02-06-2009, 02:02 PM
What Lex did by separating Clark and Lana was beyond cruel but Clark will be the victor because he will realize that he has feelings for Lois and will learn that we are not destined to be with just one person.
You can love someone deeply as a young man, lose them, and then love someone on an even deeper level in marriage as a mature man. We all know the ending. Clark does grow from this and that will be his revenge on Lex.
I think he has feelings for Lois that have obviously been on hold but when she returns she will make those feelings stir and he will have to figure out where he wants to take things with Lois. He could have these feelings but suppress them and just stay friends with Lois for season 8, until he grieves and figures things out.
You're not my SuperMom, more like a Supersister since we're of a similar age, but you have the nom de plum right, stenochick, Supermom. Thanks for making me feel better with this insightful, hope filled post. I was blinded but now I see.
But I'm still not backing down on my vote. 'Cause I can't and 'cause I won't.
Ceasar121
02-06-2009, 02:06 PM
First off, I am a big Smallville fan. I turned to it after Superman Returns pissed me off with it horrible telling of the Superman story. I got engulfed in Smallville after that, it's poigant telling of the Superman story as he grows into the Man of Steel.
But last night's episode was a potential shark jumper. Bringing back Lana was fine. Hell, even having Clark and her have romantic issues was fine. But to bring Lana in and kick Lois to the curb is lame... Especially because of the very "coincidental" timing of Lana showing up at the wedding. Super powered Lana was a horrible idea. We've done this before, it was weak then, but understandable. Now it's just a lousy rehashed, and cheap way to write an end to the Clana story.
So why did I hate the ep so much, although I love Smallville? Well first it gets a 4, and that's only because the actors did a superb job with a $h!!ty script. Everyone's knocking the "evil" Green Arrow, but I think that fits the Green Arrow perfectly. It's part of the whole reason he's usually a 2nd tier hero, because he is so much more morally flawed than your A list heros. Fine job with him, I think the murderer aspect fits him well.
Everything else... Clark being this puppy dog and total PUSSY is sickening. In love yes. But he is totally irresponsible, not heroic at all. He's disregarded Lois, allowed himself to relapse, and most importantly, he's gone back into the horrible situation of Clana, knowing how bad that has been for HER. He's not noble enough to end it, for her good, and for the good of the universe, and realize he can love again. That has always been Superman's strength, his ability to sacrifice HIS interests for others.
As far as tv goes, it was a well acted, though cliche, episode. Biggest problem is that the writers seem to have written this episode arc for the FANS, and not to tell a good story. Fanwank was way to abundant in this ep... Chloe still being "I don't want to lose you though my husband is fatally ill and in the hospital." God they need to write Chloe up. Make her a strickly business Oracle, and let her emotions rest with Jimmy, not with Clark.
This show needs Michael Rosenbaum back badly if they are not going to improve on the writing. Losing the shows best actor is fine, if they are going to improve it with superior writing and character progression. You have a great cast... use them to tell a great tale. I hope this mid season arc is not any indication of the shows direction. Please give Clark some balls. Right now, Lex could bring him to his knees with the mention of Lana.
Not to mention you left Lana with superpowers? WTF?!? I believe they kinda did this so they could bring her back for a FINAL final episode, if nothing more than to show that Clark has grown past her and is devoted to Lois, or his mission, or something other than being shoved up her @$$.
I'm not done with Smallville, because it has given me 7 seasons I, for the most part, enjoyed. But they had something going with this season, and seriously derailed it with this horrible arc, ending with this "seen it a 1000 times before", episode that I could have guessed from the start. No closure for Clark.
And I have to say it one more time , Lana with superpowers? Again? :mad:
zHeN_zHeN
02-06-2009, 02:14 PM
Wha?? Requiem aired last night? No, you're kidding! Hmm. All I remember were bottles of Vodka lying on the floor. And, at some point last night, I felt like hurling one of them at the TV. And, that's all I remember. Oh, wait. So, I did watch last night. Huh. Go figure.
Rating: 1. Only because Lana FINALLY left--for good this time. And, I probably would have given it a higher rating if her departure didn't involve me getting a hangover. UGH. (-_-)
stenochick
02-06-2009, 02:16 PM
But that isn't Superman. He doesn't give up on people, especially the people he loves. There is precedence for the story we saw last night.
Clark had a great friend, Mon-El, he is from Daxam, lead is lethal to Mon-El and he is going to die. He puts Mon-El in the Phantom Zone, the only way to save him, then promises to find a cure for him. And this is what he does. We see him struggling from the time it happens to his adult life. He talks to Mon-El through a portal, he works with him to find a cure. So far he hasn't found one, but he keeps trying.
He can't be physically near Lana, but he can communicate with her. He should be working with her and others to find a cure.
Clark's powers can't fix everything, but he has access to the Fortress. He has access to people who could help him. To not try to find a cure doesn't make any sense.
But Lana doesn't need a cure if she and Clark decide to just go their seperate ways. She has the power to absorb kryptonite in things. That power could help people, including Clark, in the future.
geminis
02-06-2009, 02:21 PM
First off, I am a big Smallville fan. I turned to it after Superman Returns pissed me off with it horrible telling of the Superman story. I got engulfed in Smallville after that, it's poigant telling of the Superman story as he grows into the Man of Steel.
But last night's episode was a potential shark jumper. Bringing back Lana was fine. Hell, even having Clark and her have romantic issues was fine. But to bring Lana in and kick Lois to the curb is lame... Especially because of the very "coincidental" timing of Lana showing up at the wedding. Super powered Lana was a horrible idea. We've done this before, it was weak then, but understandable. Now it's just a lousy rehashed, and cheap way to write an end to the Clana story.
So why did I hate the ep so much, although I love Smallville? Well first it gets a 4, and that's only because the actors did a superb job with a $h!!ty script. Everyone's knocking the "evil" Green Arrow, but I think that fits the Green Arrow perfectly. It's part of the whole reason he's usually a 2nd tier hero, because he is so much more morally flawed than your A list heros. Fine job with him, I think the murderer aspect fits him well.
Everything else... Clark being this puppy dog and total PUSSY is sickening. In love yes. But he is totally irresponsible, not heroic at all. He's disregarded Lois, allowed himself to relapse, and most importantly, he's gone back into the horrible situation of Clana, knowing how bad that has been for HER. He's not noble enough to end it, for her good, and for the good of the universe, and realize he can love again. That has always been Superman's strength, his ability to sacrifice HIS interests for others.
As far as tv goes, it was a well acted, though cliche, episode. Biggest problem is that the writers seem to have written this episode arc for the FANS, and not to tell a good story. Fanwank was way to abundant in this ep... Chloe still being "I don't want to lose you though my husband is fatally ill and in the hospital." God they need to write Chloe up. Make her a strickly business Oracle, and let her emotions rest with Jimmy, not with Clark.
This show needs Michael Rosenbaum back badly if they are not going to improve on the writing. Losing the shows best actor is fine, if they are going to improve it with superior writing and character progression. You have a great cast... use them to tell a great tale. I hope this mid season arc is not any indication of the shows direction. Please give Clark some balls. Right now, Lex could bring him to his knees with the mention of Lana.
Not to mention you left Lana with superpowers? WTF?!? I believe they kinda did this so they could bring her back for a FINAL final episode, if nothing more than to show that Clark has grown past her and is devoted to Lois, or his mission, or something other than being shoved up her @$$.
I'm not done with Smallville, because it has given me 7 seasons I, for the most part, enjoyed. But they had something going with this season, and seriously derailed it with this horrible arc, ending with this "seen it a 1000 times before", episode that I could have guessed from the start. No closure for Clark.
And I have to say it one more time , Lana with superpowers? Again? :mad:
Welcome, Ceasar121. I agree with you about Lana and Oliver. The Green Arrow from my limited knowledge and poor memory is a bit of a hothead and spats with Clark/Superman over his morals on a regular basis. Oliver is, after all, the Green Arrow, not a straight arrow like Clark. This was not only no closure for Clark it was also no closure for Lana, with those nauseating unwilling suspension of disbelief induced superpowers of hers. The 'I glow green in the dark' factor I'm ignoring because I like that aspect. And I can't believe there was something I actually liked about this blot on my poor memory.
----- Added 5 Minutes later -----
Wha?? Requiem aired last night? No, you're kidding! Hmm. All I remember were bottles of Vodka lying on the floor. And, at some point last night, I felt like hurling one of them at the TV. And, that's all I remember. Oh, wait. So, I did watch last night. Huh. Go figure.
Rating: 1. Only because Lana FINALLY left--for good this time. And, I probably would have given it a higher rating if her departure didn't involve me getting a hangover. UGH. (-_-)
:rotfl:
Sorry about your hangover. May I recommend a mind wipe instead?
It had better be a final Final. Now I know I don't want Lana any where near Smallville any more since SV can't do anything right with her.
Ceasar121
02-06-2009, 02:30 PM
If I remember correctly, Green Arrow was written in because Batman couldn't be obtained. Green Arrow has always been a less noble "Batman-like" character, though not as good of a detective. He's actually a lot like Tony Stark/Iron Man.
That's why I like him, because he's f'd up. He has a problem with Lex, and, like a real person, wants vengenace. Now if they'd stop writing Clark as this emotinally fragile shipwreck, they could focus on his title as the "Big Blue Boyscout" and have him do something about it.
La Donna
02-06-2009, 02:30 PM
How are Clana fans happy with this ending, knowing that in the next couple episodes Clark has moved on and has fallen for Lois? How is that an epic love story if he can move on? Shouldn't he be devoting his free time to finding a cure for Lana with the suit? If she was his soulmate and they are part of an epic love story, and you feel like you got the message that Lois will never measure up, then how are you happy that he moves on so quickly? If Clark really loved her as much as he sometimes claims, he wouldn't stop trying to reverse what happened, and he wouldn't ever stop giving up hope. In the mythos that is so easily discarded by some, if this happened to Lois, Clark wouldn't give up and he wouldn't move on like that. Doesn't that just prove that it's not as epic a love story as you thought?
I haven't reviewed this episode yet, and I'm just now reading through a few pages of this thread, but I wanted to throw that question out there for those Clana fans that loved the Clana ending.
dotsie23
02-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Cos Toyman is a DC Character who actually has a part in Superman's future and as far as closeness to character go Smallville didn't do a bad job. Although I do prefer the Superman Animated Series Version and why didn't Winslow say Toyman stuff like "Mother would be so proud:\"
Still, he was the only real thing that made this episode watchable and the actor did a great job.
But hey, why not do another Clana story if there's a Season 9?? It's not like we haven't seen that before!:rolleyes:
The character is portrayed much better in the animated series as it was here, and I'm guessing this is due to the writers not focusing on another complex character. And Toyman is a lot more violent in the Animated Series. And I also agree the actor portraying Toyman did a great job. I wish they would bring in more of these villains! Ah well, just wishful thinking on my part.
jjsmallvillelvr
02-06-2009, 02:47 PM
I know you all seem to think that after Lana, Clark can never love Lois the same...but here's the thing. He already had some sort of feelings towards Lois, and think of this. You husband or wife dies. Something out of your control, but you can not be with them anymore. That doesn't mean you won't fall in love again and feel just as passionate towards them. It may take awhile, or not. But I'm sure he'll fall for Lois, and he'll fall hard...he has to!
Jack-El49
02-06-2009, 02:59 PM
But that isn't Superman. He doesn't give up on people, especially the people he loves. There is precedence for the story we saw last night.
Clark had a great friend, Mon-El, he is from Daxam, lead is lethal to Mon-El and he is going to die. He puts Mon-El in the Phantom Zone, the only way to save him, then promises to find a cure for him. And this is what he does. We see him struggling from the time it happens to his adult life. He talks to Mon-El through a portal, he works with him to find a cure. So far he hasn't found one, but he keeps trying.
He can't be physically near Lana, but he can communicate with her. He should be working with her and others to find a cure.
Clark's powers can't fix everything, but he has access to the Fortress. He has access to people who could help him. To not try to find a cure doesn't make any sense.
It does make sense if he moves on. Devoting all his time to finding a cure that might never materialize is a galactic waste of time if he moves on, realizing that in some things fate lends a hand and there's nothing you can do about it.
How are Clana fans happy with this ending, knowing that in the next couple episodes Clark has moved on and has fallen for Lois? How is that an epic love story if he can move on? Shouldn't he be devoting his free time to finding a cure for Lana with the suit? If she was his soulmate and they are part of an epic love story, and you feel like you got the message that Lois will never measure up, then how are you happy that he moves on so quickly? If Clark really loved her as much as he sometimes claims, he wouldn't stop trying to reverse what happened, and he wouldn't ever stop giving up hope. In the mythos that is so easily discarded by some, if this happened to Lois, Clark wouldn't give up and he wouldn't move on like that. Doesn't that just prove that it's not as epic a love story as you thought?
I haven't reviewed this episode yet, and I'm just now reading through a few pages of this thread, but I wanted to throw that question out there for those Clana fans that loved the Clana ending.
I think if he ever stumbled across something that would work, he'd jump on it and maybe ask Star Labs if they can work on it but otherwise, he is forced to move on and we all know that he will. He moves on with Lois - the one who he loves and his one and only love for thousands of years after her death. That's pretty significant. I don't think Lana, in his retrospect, would garner that level of loyalty.
I know you all seem to think that after Lana, Clark can never love Lois the same...but here's the thing. He already had some sort of feelings towards Lois, and think of this. You husband or wife dies. Something out of your control, but you can not be with them anymore. That doesn't mean you won't fall in love again and feel just as passionate towards them. It may take awhile, or not. But I'm sure he'll fall for Lois, and he'll fall hard...he has to!
He will and does and you're right - we've all moved on at some point.
dreamsofnever
02-06-2009, 03:00 PM
I know you all seem to think that after Lana, Clark can never love Lois the same...but here's the thing. He already had some sort of feelings towards Lois, and think of this. You husband or wife dies. Something out of your control, but you can not be with them anymore. That doesn't mean you won't fall in love again and feel just as passionate towards them. It may take awhile, or not. But I'm sure he'll fall for Lois, and he'll fall hard...he has to!
Thank you, Jordyne. That is very sweet of you to say, especially coming from a point of view where you're a Clana fan.
I think you're right. Most people have more than one love in their life. How that first love ends does not mean you won't ever move on and love again. And the first love doesn't negate the second love and vice versa. Both loves can be important to your life. Both can be completely different in how you approach them and how you feel about them.
La Donna
02-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Another short question before my review: Those who are huge Lex fans, what do you think of Lex's big evil plan turning out to be keeping Clark and Lana from having sex ever again? Basically, he had the most advanced technology, which would have been perfect for him as it would have given him powers, protected him from any krypto effects that others sometimes have, and given him the perfect protection from kryptonians, but he decided not to try it out before heading to the artic? And, the plan is a two parter, with the beauty that if and when Lana steals the suit, you can ensure that Clark and Lana will be unable to fornicate? That's the big evil plan? So, big time Lex fans, what do you think of that?
And before I forget, the last Lana scene was some of KK's best acting. I cried because I bought that persons emotions in that moment. As someone who has seen every other episode, I don't buy this episode's Lana, but the emotions came across on her part very well. I wasn't sold on TW's, but his face at the end was pretty emotional.
Okay, back to trying to review it...
skully
02-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Excellent episode!! While I am with most people and didn't agree with the arc of Lana becoming a Superwoman, I accepted it as a reasonably fitting way for KK to leave the series and give Clana some closure. And for Lex to have driven them apart after they made the decision on the roof of the DP was just so Lex, just as Clark making the decision to allow Lana to absorb the kryptonite to save thousands of people was so Clark. And let's not forget Lana donned the Prometheus suit to stop Lex becoming a superhuman monster.
The Toyman was great as were Ollie and Chloe's roles. In watching the Live Discussion thread it was obvious people were missing little details in their haste to deride this episode e.g. Ollie didn't open one handcuff with a pen, it was with one of Toyman's mini screwdrivers that Ollie pickpocketed as Schott leaned over him and got in his face.
People bagged the Lana speech stopping Clark from killing Lex but the evil one had just driven Clana apart forever, so we can forgive the big guy for a moment of weakness. The scene at the truck with Clark picking up ashes and sprinkling them was reminiscent of Clark at Jonathan and Lionel's funerals. But is this the end of Lex?
The scene near the end with Ollie and the green LuthorCorp ring is intriguing, as was the look on Ollie's face as he looked at the smashed picture of Lex. I can't honestly believe Lex is dead, and maybe there is something in a theory being touted by xrayvision.
To call the ending of the episode cheesy is unfair to the producers, TW and KK. I thought it was powerful and emotional and very well acted. This means the Clana relationship has gone full circle, with references to Lana's necklace and their first one-on-one meeting at the cemetary in Pilot. PS3 couldn't kill Lana so having Lex drive Clark and her apart seems fitting and appropriate given the rollercoaster that Clana has been for 8 years.
As a 22 year old, Clark will be an emotional wreck for a while but with a few Supermanly episodes and Lois's return, the season will be back on the destiny + Lois track soon.
In reading the Live Discussion thread yesterday before seeing the episode today, I think many people allowed preconceived notions and opinions detract from their enjoyment of this episode. But that is everyone's right. I, for one, thought is was great.
I gave Requiem 9/10.
saltyweeks
02-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Wow, 155 1s so far. Although, if you take away those who were going to vote 1 no matter what, those who admit they didn't even watch the show, and those who were apparently roaring drunk, that number is less impressive. The drunks I understand, but how do you vote on a show you haven't seen?
kimberlyclark
02-06-2009, 03:15 PM
I hated the way they ended the whole Clana story. I am not a Lana fan but I think they could have done something better. At first she comes back because shes strong but then she can't leave because she needs Clark. Then what does Clark just forget about Lois and hop back in bed with Lana "whoever is there" type of person. I have always looked forward to the next episode every week but I found myself just wanting this storyline over.:( Must say did like the Chloe green arrow storyline :p
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ERICA DURANCE BACK
NIGHTRAVENXLR1
02-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Thank you, Jordyne. That is very sweet of you to say, especially coming from a point of view where you're a Clana fan.
I think you're right. Most people have more than one love in their life. How that first love ends does not mean you won't ever move on and love again. And the first love doesn't negate the second love and vice versa. Both loves can be important to your life. Both can be completely different in how you approach them and how you feel about them.
i think this is very well put. i don't think this will be the end of clois. no i think from this moment on we will have a beginning.
i wanted closer four clana so they could move on to clois. without clark still wanting lana.
but i think what you say could really work.
supes0
02-06-2009, 03:26 PM
It does make sense if he moves on. Devoting all his time to finding a cure that might never materialize is a galactic waste of time if he moves on, realizing that in some things fate lends a hand and there's nothing you can do about it.
I disagree. Not to try is not what Superman is all about. He devotes time searching for a cure for Mon-El, why can't he do the same for Lana? He loves her, he shouldn't be giving up so easily.
I doubt we'll see him mourning Lana, and after what happened last night that is just wrong.
joshw_24
02-06-2009, 03:28 PM
I had to give this episode a 4 for many quite obvious reasons. When the season began it seemed to be the season that would see Clark get close to being the Superman of the comic books and films. However as things have DRAGGED on this season it has got worseand worse! This episode and last weeks sums up why...instead of Clark growing up and leaving Lana behind he was FORCED to give her up so now Lois seems to be second choice even though before the Christmas break they seemed to be growing close to eachother, its almost as if the Smallville that has come back back in January is a different show! The use of Lex was alright but I still dont think there is enough justification for Clark and Lex to be enemies and now with only 8 episodes left I cant see (if this is the last season) how they are going to establish Clark as more than a "red and blue blur", get Clark and Lana closer and what about Lex! Oh and Clark STILL cant fly!!! I love Smallville but ever since season 6 Ive felt that the show has been running out of steam and perhaps now is the time for it to go...for a show that could have had so much more potential the past few season have really screwed up...anyway, rant over! LOL!
KalEltheBoyscout
02-06-2009, 03:31 PM
I gave it a 10/10 because I really enjoyed it and just to make up for the ridiculous amount of negative feedback this episode got. The Clana closure was heartbreaking indeed. I know people are upset about the way it was handled, but Lex ripping them apart forever was really the only way Clark and Lana would finally move on (and Clark can finally realize the love of his life is Lois). I was extremely impressed by the Toyman in this episode. It's too bad that he didn't get to face Clark, but perhaps that's best left for the future. TW and KK played that ending scene SO well, and I wish the best for Kristin in her promising future.
P.S. Whatever happened to that Steve Lombard guy?
babyluthor
02-06-2009, 03:34 PM
I'll give it a 6. I'm not sure I really like how they ended the Clana relationship. So she absorbed kryptonite, in the Smallville universe this should be easy to reverse. I'm not a fan of the relationship, but I did feel sorry for them at the end.
I'm a bit confused with Lex's situation. So he's traveling around in a semi truck giving out orders to some toy bomber to kill people? This is not Lex's style. He should have just hired some assassins or something. I don't think he is dead. Isn't he wearing the protective suit?
Where is Lois during all this? I hope she comes back soon. Overall it was an ok episode.
Smallville619
02-06-2009, 03:42 PM
i've given this epsiode a 1 for overall plot
i'll give an 8 for the Lex scenes
Clana Scenes a Negative zero calvin basically it dosent exist
The epsiode itself was just an excuse to make Lana and KK a hero and guess what fans IT DIDNT WORK!!!!. This Lana returns arc has spit on nearly everybit of Super-man Mythos in every possible way, i don't want ED BACK unless there is a time shift of at LEAST 6 MONTHS to a YEAR. Lois returning now and without a time skip would 1 kill the show, 2 make every Super-man fan stop watching. Lois Lane is not the rebound girl and Lana Lang isnt the one. Lois Lane is Clark's love of his life and for the PS3 to do this with Lois being the rebound girl would i think kill the series.
I compare it to what Marvel comics have done with Spider-man (Erasing His Marriage to Mary Jane, making everyone forget he was Spidey even Norman Osborn).
Anyway the 3 things that made this ep watchable was the Lex Scene's brilliant and affective, the Pre-Cursor to the Green Arrow Movie (Current being Written where Oliver Queen is in Prison with People like Lex, The Joker etc), and to me the savior of the episode the Person who Played TOYMAN was fantastic it fit the charcter perfectly in the current timeline and Smallville Reality.
To the PS3 if you do read this, you MUST have a time skip or you are going to kill the series.
zHeN_zHeN
02-06-2009, 03:47 PM
:rotfl:
Sorry about your hangover. May I recommend a mind wipe instead?
It had better be a final Final. Now I know I don't want Lana any where near Smallville any more since SV can't do anything right with her.
:lol:
Mindwipe? That's what Infamous is for! ;)
But, really, overall it wasn't THAT bad. Actually, it was more therapeutic than anything else. So, now I'm feeling a whole lot better. :D
blackcelebration
02-06-2009, 03:49 PM
i've given this epsiode a 1 for overall plot
To the PS3 if you do read this, you MUST have a time skip or you are going to kill the series.
Or Jor-El accidentially erases Lana from history... wait accidentially???:rotfl:
Smallville619
02-06-2009, 03:55 PM
O WAIT THAT HAPPENED IN RECKONING
O wait no no that didnt happen lol
Anyone else think Miles and Millar Replaced Welling in that last scene?
HumanoidCorvin
02-06-2009, 03:57 PM
I hope Clark never returns.
Anteros
02-06-2009, 04:08 PM
I thought Fierce, was bad, but this has to be the worst ever. The show has jumped the shark.
Only in Smallville, is Lois Lane, 2nd, to the melodramtic, angst ridden Lana Lang.
This is as it should be.
ims001
02-06-2009, 04:11 PM
This is as it should be.
Only in the Bizarro universe that Smallville has become.
luthorian
02-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Had to give it a 9. Was a lot better than I expected and a million times better than Power. Toyman was great, I liked KK's acting a lot. It was interesting to watch as a whole. It's some of the character plots that bothered me so can't give it a 10. But it was a def. move on to the future.
MetroGirl06
02-06-2009, 04:18 PM
I'll say this, I thought the episode was way better than last week (But hey, ANYTHING would have been better than Power).
I don't think the ending of clana was handled right. They should have gotten over each other and seperate on good terms. But the excuse is that they're not togther because they CAN'T be together? Sorry, but thats just a load of crap. And they're expecting us to go right back to clois after this? (sigh) I don't get what PS3 was thinking when they decided to end clana in the most tragic way possible. Theres absolutely nothing to gain from it!!
That being said, whoever directed did really well with what they had. The ending scene was heartbreaking. If I wasn't a long-time fan whose been putting up with clana since day one, I might've actually felt sorry for Clark. But at this point I was happy to see Lana leave whether it be on good terms or 'lovey-dovey-4eva!' terms.
And Toyman was pretty good, though he wasn't used enough. The actor who played him was all kinds of creep-tastic. But Oliver was kinda... blah. He just wasn't interesting to me. But he did get his shirtless screentime, so yay for that!
Why isn't Chloe with her husband?! :confused: Counting the days till Lois comes back.
4/10
LuckyKrypto
02-06-2009, 04:25 PM
I really didn't care for this episode at all. It totally bugged me having Lana and Clark end up the way they did.
Interesting how things are finally progressing with the Lex/Tess storyline, I did enjoy that. But was totally irritated at how things ended for Clark and Lana, but whatever.
alejandrita439
02-06-2009, 04:38 PM
i gave it a low 9 :)
it was better than last week :)
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