Ending the Clana Relationship...

[ckent23]

I don't really have a problem with the Clana relationship, but I would rather see the Clois relationship. If they are going to end the Clana relation and have Clark move on to Lois or whoever else it is, if he ever moves on, I hope it's Clark who ends the relationship, it will make everything better and all this chaos go away. If he realizes that he must move on and he leave Lana I think everything will be okay. Also it wont make the next girl (most likely Lois) just seem like a backup, when really all his feelings are for Lana. You agree?

Thoughts please?

[Loisdragon]

Yes i do

[6-Super-Man -5]

I agree too.

[Kalic]

me 3

[Jack-El49]

Yes - if it's not a violation of the rules to speak for those who think similar to myself, I'd say that's the biggest problem with this current arc. It does not lend itself to having Clark end the Clana relationship and be ready to move on to Lois with any bit of credibility.

That is what has inflamed the Cloisers and those who tend to care about the Superman mythos.

So yes, it would be a fine way to end it but will it be a believable ending or a "lightswitch" ending? That's the fear and the cause of all the contempt for PS3 by many like-minded fans.

[ckent23]

True, Clark will always be remember for how much he loved Lana Lang.

I still would rather Clark see all of Lana's flaws. Like how she hides things and craves power. Her moral compass is all out of wack.

I don't really know much on the whole lore and background of Superman and the comics and stuff, but I know just as well as everyone else does that Clark and Lois are supposed to be together, it's just going to be hard to see Clark with Lois after all he has been through with Lana. Even if Clark ends it, it will still be EXTREMELY hard to get Lana out of the viewers minds.

[CloisKent]

My thoughts are this: that unless Clark was kidnapped sometime during 'Legion' and that we've been looking at Bizaaro the whole time now, I just don't see what's happened, and what's apparently going to happen, as the end of this relationship. Nor do I see a plausible way for Clark to move on to Lois.

This site has spoilers up that uses language such as 'what seperates Clark and Lana forever' and other types of words that strongly imply that fate, in some way, ends the relationship. That is never a good thing. Because it always makes one wonder 'what if' and as a Clois fan, I'm not interested in watching that.

What I suspect the writers are planning is a crappy ending for Clark and Lana( a character that I stopped being able to comprehend by the end of season 5), then we'll have another break, then in March, Lois will return and Clark will be 'interested in her again' because he'll be so horny after screwing Lana constantly, he'll be on the prowl for someone to hump on. I know that sounds bad, but unless Clark sits Lois down and tells her everything that happened before he tries and puts his lips on her, no one older than a 9 year old is going to believe Clark is interested in Lois again.

For all we know, this is a 'dream season', starting back from the day Clark began work at the Daily Planet!

[melissan02]

For all we know, this is a 'dream season', starting back from the day Clark began work at the Daily Planet!

God how I wish this were the case!! :( And that's sayin a lot coming from me....who was furious back when Dallas pulled the same thing...hell, an entire season was nothing but a dream!!!!!:eek::lol:

[ckent23]

I agree...how can you forget Lana Lang now. How can you ever believe Lois is really the woman Clark wants to be with and not Lana. It seems next to impossible. It would still make the show 100x better if Clark ended it. But if like some say and Lana is killed or something bad happens...she leaves Clark...blah blah blah, then its like Clark never really wanted to move on from Lana...he was just forced to.

Oh what to think...lol

[CloisKent]

And another thing: am I mistaken or was this whole 'Prometheus Project' thingee begun back in Season Six with Lois's childhood friend? The one that Clark offed while Lois was passed out? I would've thought that Lois could fit into this eppy somehow just from that.

There are so many problems besides the Clois arc. Wouldn't it have made more sense to keep Chloe kidnapped? Maybe Clark, Lana and Oliver could search for her together? Davis has been missing since 'Legion' anyway. That way the show could get away with not showing Lois, or Clark even trying to call her, because he, along with Lana and Oliver were too busy trying to bring Chloe home? You don't know what's Jimmy's condition is. You don't know if Lois is even still in Star City or back in Metropolis just keeping her distance from Clark. You don't know if Davis is off having convulsions in an alley or what.

[ckent23]

Well in "Legion" didn't it show Davis frozen in the crystal?

Lois just needs to come back.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

God how I wish this were the case!! :( And that's sayin a lot coming from me....who was furious back when Dallas pulled the same thing...hell, an entire season was nothing but a dream!!!!!:eek::lol:

well a entire season is IMO a bit to much. just the hole lana arc would be fine for me.
there r definetly still some things that need clearing up on this lana arc thing.
like: dit the archer believe you. i mean what was that about. mabe she is working with lex on this, or something else thats not on the level. can you picture clark finding this out.
well by by clana thats for sure! and that way its his desigen so no pro going to lois from there.
wel still think there will be something onexpected. at least i hope so

[Clana4Life]

Well, here's more proof why it hasn't ended. Because whether people like it or hate, they keep talking about it over and over and over again. Me included. There are more posts about it than anything else. Rarely do other topics get as much attention. A smart writer sees this and acts accordingly.

[marcella]

I agree.It has to end

[CloisKent]

like: dit the archer believe you. i mean what was that about. mabe she is working with lex on this, or something else thats not on the level. can you picture clark finding this out.

Clark's not going to care. He would question her and either Lana would lie right in his face again, or he'll swallow whatever she tells him because he wants to. I mean the only time I really thought Clark had finally woken up, was when he found out Lana slept with Bizaaro. If he forgave that, whatever Lana is hiding won't matter much to him in the long run.

[ckent23]

It does have to end, but HOW it has to end is the thing here. You either end with Clark and Lana still together(when everyone knows Clark's real woman is Lois), or you end with Lana gone I love Lois again but everyone knows I really want to be with Lana and Ill love her forever type deal. After basically 8 seasons of loving Lana they can't end that in 1 episode and make him start loving Lois out of nowhere and completely forget about Lana. Oh the mess.

[CloisKent]

A smart writer sees this and acts accordingly

I don't disagree with that. But to me, it would be nice to get a smart writer and a good one in the same package deal. I never hated Lana, so to be blunt, I don't know how you give her a good sendoff. I mean I truly lost my grasp on being able to define the character because of shoddy, past writing.

Lana, to me, at first, was this pretty girl who had lost her parents during a meteor shower that Clark blamed himself for. You could see she was alone. Her Aunt Nell up and married someone, her real father's new family seemed to resent her. I felt for her.

And after Whitney died it seemed as if she was getting some sense about how great Clark was. But then they had some kind of falling out in Season 3 that just forever bored me to tears. By Season 4, I was ready for something new. And since then, I have been forever hooked on Lois Lane, Erica Durance, the life she brings to the show and any story she is in. Kristin's chemistry with Tom just dwarfs in comparison to Erica's with Tom.

I understand that 'Clana' needs closure. I understand that the character of Lana needs some closure for fans. But what I saw last night looked as if Lana had lost her complete and utter mind. She wants to wear a supersuit...because...when she knows good and well that Clark loved her anyway???

And if is to be believed, then Lana just wants to wear a supersuit so she can beat up bad guys.

This whole thing could've been better written. Then again, that could be said of a lot of shows....cough...'LOST'...cough.

[ckent23]

I understand that 'Clana' needs closure. I understand that the character of Lana needs some closure for fans. But what I saw last night looked as if Lana had lost her complete and utter mind. She wants to wear a supersuit...because...when she knows good and well that Clark loved her anyway???

And if is to be believed, then Lana just wants to wear a supersuit so she can beat up bad guys.

This whole thing could've been better written. Then again, that could be said of a lot of shows....cough...'LOST'...cough.


I couldn't agree more...
She knows how much Clark loves her.
That just shows that Lana is really doing it either to get revenge on Lex...or that she is just power hungy...

[Clana4Life]

I don't disagree with that. But to me, it would be nice to get a smart writer and a good one in the same package deal. I never hated Lana, so to be blunt, I don't know how you give her a good sendoff. I mean I truly lost my grasp on being able to define the character because of shoddy, past writing.

Lana, to me, at first, was this pretty girl who had lost her parents during a meteor shower that Clark blamed himself for. You could see she was alone. Her Aunt Nell up and married someone, her real father's new family seemed to resent her. I felt for her.

And after Whitney died it seemed as if she was getting some sense about how great Clark was. But then they had some kind of falling out in Season 3 that just forever bored me to tears. By Season 4, I was ready for something new. And since then, I have been forever hooked on Lois Lane, Erica Durance, the life she brings to the show and any story she is in. Kristin's chemistry with Tom just dwarfs in comparison to Erica's with Tom.

I understand that 'Clana' needs closure. I understand that the character of Lana needs some closure for fans. But what I saw last night looked as if Lana had lost her complete and utter mind. She wants to wear a supersuit...because...when she knows good and well that Clark loved her anyway???

And if is to be believed, then Lana just wants to wear a supersuit so she can beat up bad guys.

This whole thing could've been better written. Then again, that could be said of a lot of shows....cough...'LOST'...cough.

I'm just glad to find someone who feels the same way about LOST. I won't get too of topic, but why is the show so popular? Maybe you and I should PM. :)
I don't want to be the great defender of Lana. I feel like I am constantly doing that on K-site, but her reasoning for becoming a superhero wasn't primarily to be with Clark. She was tired of being abducted, implanted, hit in the head, in the hospital every other week, knocked down by a beam caused by Doomsday, in a coma, cloned, hit in the head with a random object, held at gun point, knocked down stairs, electrocuted, caught in a burning building, knocked out, knocked out again. Did I mention in the hospital every other week, taken over by vampires, taken over by witches, etc., She wanted to be invincible. She wanted to able to protect herself. She wanted to save the world and people from ever experiencing what she experienced. She wanted to be with Clark without feeling like she was holding him back or distracting him. After all of this, I'd want to be a superhero, too.

[CloisKent]

You know, Lana's hatred of Lex is another thing that kind of irks me. It's not that she doesn't have every reason to do so. But the one thing that really just made me throw up my hands, was that EVERYONE and their mother, told her to stay away from him. That he was a bad guy, etc.. And the night that they slept together, Lana made the first move.

My point is this: if you don't like a guy, don't lead him on. Lex has problems, but he has enough self esteem not to chase women that aren't interested in him. If Lana hadn't kept going over there and talking about Clark behind his back to Lex, then eventually sleeping with the man, he might not still be bothering her to this day. For awhile in season 7, I honestly thought that Lex was going to make Kara the newest object of his desire.

[ckent23]

I'm just glad to find someone who feels the same way about LOST. I won't get too of topic, but why is the show so popular? Maybe you and I should PM. :)
I don't want to be the great defender of Lana. I feel like I am constantly doing that on K-site, but her reasoning for becoming a superhero wasn't primarily to be with Clark. She was tired of being abducted, implanted, hit in the head, in the hospital every other week, knocked down by a beam caused by Doomsday, in a coma, cloned, hit in the head with a random object, held at gun point, knocked down stairs, electrocuted, caught in a burning building, knocked out, knocked out again. Did I mention in the hospital every other week, taken over by vampires, taken over by witches, etc., She wanted to be invincible. She wanted to able to protect herself. She wanted to save the world and people from ever experiencing what she experienced. She wanted to be with Clark without feeling like she was holding him back or distracting him. After all of this, I'd want to be a superhero, too.

Haha thats also true, but maybe she shouldn't stick her nose where it doesn't belong sometimes.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

I couldn't agree more...
She knows how much Clark loves her.
That just shows that Lana is really doing it either to get revenge on Lex...or that she is just power hungy...

i am going for power hungry.
wish she would suck the power from my computer if they dont end it fare for clana fans and clois fans.
o thats going to be hard. well just clois fans then(only joking):D

[CloisKent]

Did I mention in the hospital every other week, taken over by vampires, taken over by witches, etc., She wanted to be invincible. She wanted to able to protect herself. She wanted to save the world and people from ever experiencing what she experienced. She wanted to be with Clark without feeling like she was holding him back or distracting him. After all of this, I'd want to be a superhero, too.

I forgot about that! I don't know how I could have because yes, she was in the hospital every other week. Oh well, what's done is done.

[ckent23]

i am going for power hungry.
wish she would suck the power from my computer if they dont end it fare for clana fans and clois fans.
o thats going to be hard. well just clois fans then(only joking):D

Haha that's what im trying to figure out?
How in the world can they possibly end this fairly and properly without leaving confusion to fill in the blank spots? How can Clark completely forget about Lana and move to Lois and all the other what not lol?

[CloisKent]

Oh and as for why 'Lost' is still popular, who the hell knows?! I smelled trouble the first episode of the second season and haven't watched since. Whenever I ask someone to fill me in I can't follow a blessed thing they're saying. But that is definitely an example of a show where the plots are being written as they go along. There is no way that mess was plotted out.

[ckent23]

I don't think the writers ever planned on having this much trouble with the whole deciding on Lana or Lois thing lol.
It's just a big catastrophe on what to do with it now.

[CloisKent]

The one thing that surprises me is that I don't think the writers planned on Chloe being so popular.

You know what I wonder about? There has always been this resentment on the parts of non Clois fans, about how early Lois was introduced into the story. The idea was that Clark shouldn't be meeting her until he grew up and became a reporter. Personally, that always made me think that we would never meet her as long as Smallville was on the air.

Here's what I'm getting at: I now wonder, if maybe this is sort of, not revenge but a kind of reversal of things? Meaning to have Clark still involved with Lana, when he's now a reporter in Metropolis AND have the two of them kiss on the rooftop of a newspaper that Lana has nothing to do with, story wise, is a way to 'make-up' for what was seen as Lois's intrusion into Smallville(a place that she traditionally wouldn't have had anything to do with story wise) and Clark's stories with Lana and Chloe.

[ckent23]

So the writers are getting revenge on Lois for their own mistakes?
Is that what you mean?
Doesn't seem very logical.

[CloisKent]

I don't think it's necessarily 'revenge'. I just think maybe they're trying to address long standing complaints or something. I honestly think that the writers feel as if they've found some kind of happy balance and that this will all work out somehow. And maybe it will. The bed scenes that we'll be treated to next week aside, we'll just have to wait until next week to judge whether the writers were on crack when they came up with this story arc. Maybe we'll learn something that will make Lois's return in 'Infamous' seem as if the events after 'Bride' never happened.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

I don't think it's necessarily 'revenge'. I just think maybe they're trying to address long standing complaints or something. I honestly think that the writers feel as if they've found some kind of happy balance and that this will all work out somehow. And maybe it will. The bed scenes that we'll be treated to next week aside, we'll just have to wait until next week to judge whether the writers were on crack when they came up with this story arc. Maybe we'll learn something that will make Lois's return in 'Infamous' seem as if the events after 'Bride' never happened.

lets hope so lets hope so.
just in case a mind wipe for me tough.
cause when lois comes back i wane put this hole lana arc behind me forgood!

[ckent23]

Haha I see where your coming from now. I like the writers and crack part that made me laugh lol.

Listen to this though..
Everyone is feeding off of this whole Clana Clois thing. Deep down whichever side your on, your enjoying it. Clana fans love that he is still with Lana and everything but at the same time the Clois fans are really liking the feeling of anticipation for when the times comes for Clois.

Like im a Clois fan, the Clana thing is kind of upsetting but at the same time I like waiting for the amazing moment when Clois happens.

Do you get what im saying?

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

well i do

[ckent23]

lets hope so lets hope so.
just in case a mind wipe for me tough.
cause when lois comes back i wane put this hole lana arc behind me forgood!

Same here I agree :D

[Tinyeppy]

If they end Clana now it wouldn’t matter because I feel & see so different Clois now<O:p</O:p
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I would agree after seeing this episode I find it hard to believe that CK will ever love Lois as in “Superman” mythology. CK is madly in obsessed with Lana right now and I personally think Lois has to RUN… CK stay way from her.<O:p</O:p
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Lois in my eyes is just too good for Clark’s love sick Lana fest. Why would any girl what to date a guy who’s just witness love someone as desperate as Clark loves Lana. I would step on him like a bug and move on. That’s scary for anyone. <O:p</O:p
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If TPTB try to create Clois & think fans like me would ever believe CK will ever love Lois the way well all know he’s suppose too. They could forget b/c I don’t see it. I see Lois as a 2nd fiddle b/c he has no other choice. LANA isn’t here….I miss LANA… I want a life with LANA….<O:p</O:p
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They better not even touch Clois after what I had to witness. <O:p</O:p
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Lana being CK’s equal. PUKE !!! There is no equal to Superman DUH!<O:p</O:p
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And worst a passionate kiss on the roof top of DP between Clana: EEK !!<O:p</O:p
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Lana on the roof the DP: Girl what are you doing there, you belong in the barn. :Rolling Eyes:<O:p</O:p
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I don’t know what TPTB were thinking with that one. I can say they have guts to do this & if they wanted a response, they are getting one and not a good one.<O:p</O:p
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I’ve lost hope with CLOIS and I’m no longer for it at least on Smallville. I cherish Lois & Clark’s relationship of the ages and SV just doesn’t . <O:p</O:p
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[Mr.Magic]

The one thing that surprises me is that I don't think the writers planned on Chloe being so popular.

That shouldn't really surprise anyone. Chloe is exactly the character Lana Lang is in Superboy.

[smallvillerocks45]

Even if it's a mutual break-up for Clana, I don't think Lois will ever be a back-up choice.

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Haha I see where your coming from now. I like the writers and crack part that made me laugh lol.

Listen to this though..
Everyone is feeding off of this whole Clana Clois thing. Deep down whichever side your on, your enjoying it. Clana fans love that he is still with Lana and everything but at the same time the Clois fans are really liking the feeling of anticipation for when the times comes for Clois.

Like im a Clois fan, the Clana thing is kind of upsetting but at the same time I like waiting for the amazing moment when Clois happens.

Do you get what im saying?


I definitely get what you're saying. I'm a fan of Clana - I've always been... but at the same time, I can't wait to see PS3's plan for the Clana break-up and the eventual Clois relationship. I love this show with all of my heart, and as heartbreaking or as frustrating as some situations may or may not have been throughout the years, I can't say that I haven't loved every moment of it. (Alright... so maybe I added a bit to your original statement... but I do get where you're coming from. :D)

[Pantalaimon]

While I did find myself agreeing with Chloe when she said that Lana's presence wasn't what held Clark back - that was never a good reason and I'm glad they addressed that - I'm really worried about how they will resolve this story.
Clark doesn't have to forget about Lana completely before he moves on to Lois, but there should be at least a little closure. Even if 'this Smallville and not Superman'. They've moved too far ahead with Clois now to go back.

[NIGHTRAVENXLR1]

While I did find myself agreeing with Chloe when she said that Lana's presence wasn't what held Clark back - that was never a good reason and I'm glad they addressed that - I'm really worried about how they will resolve this story.
Clark doesn't have to forget about Lana completely before he moves on to Lois, but there should be at least a little closure. Even if 'this Smallville and not Superman'. They've moved too far ahead with Clois now to go back.

i agree. going back now would be sad indeed.
well we just have to wait how the final lana episode plays out

[Iluvgreen]

I totally agree. Clark has to be the one that ends it.

[Sunny8]

My point is this: if you don't like a guy, don't lead him on.

This could also be said to Clark regarding Lois. He lead her on (and the audience too).

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[QUOTE=Tinyeppy;4404088]
And worst a passionate kiss on the roof top of DP between Clana: EEK !!<O:p</O:p
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Lana on the roof the DP: Girl what are you doing there, you belong in the barn. :Rolling Eyes:<O:p</O:p

I said this on another thread but I think the reason they used the roof of the DP for Clark and Lana is because they don't have a place together (an "our place" like "our song") that is reminiscent of them. When people see the roof of DP they automatically think Clark and Lois.

What place reminds people of Clark and Lana? No where. They in fact have not too much together despite the fact that Clark pined for Lana in seasons 1, 2 (together 2 days, maybe), 3 ,4, 5 (together a few months? then broke up again), 6, 7 (lived together a few months and still couldn't make the relationship work). There is no place I look at that reminds me of Clark and Lana. So of course the writer's had to steal from Clark and Lois or else they would have nothing:lol:.

[tippership commander]

I'm just glad to find someone who feels the same way about LOST. I won't get too of topic, but why is the show so popular? Maybe you and I should PM. :)
I don't want to be the great defender of Lana. I feel like I am constantly doing that on K-site, but her reasoning for becoming a superhero wasn't primarily to be with Clark. She was tired of being abducted, implanted, hit in the head, in the hospital every other week, knocked down by a beam caused by Doomsday, in a coma, cloned, hit in the head with a random object, held at gun point, knocked down stairs, electrocuted, caught in a burning building, knocked out, knocked out again. Did I mention in the hospital every other week, taken over by vampires, taken over by witches, etc., She wanted to be invincible. She wanted to able to protect herself. She wanted to save the world and people from ever experiencing what she experienced. She wanted to be with Clark without feeling like she was holding him back or distracting him. After all of this, I'd want to be a superhero, too.


Agreed


This is what's really the case...



That's why POWERisn't abad episode, because she's growing up..

and, yea, hey love each other, but clar k DOES feel for LOIS....maxima's powers detected true love-meaning clark's sumply confused, whic hIS undrstandable...


Lana as his equal...
i don't thin kshe is, and even if she is as powerful as him, he's still growing.....


But, the point being, She'll help him become sperman, and CLOIS is not ny less alive....


give the writers faith!

[Larel]

Is this a freaking joke, I just read that one of the writer's of SV said that maybe Lana was the love of Clark's life & that she could have been the one who got away & that yes he is with Lois & moves on after Lana but did he ever really move on?:rolleyes:

WTF is this fool for real?:\

So now we are to believe Lois Lane was always maybe the "second choice" in Clark Kent's life, please that is a load of sticking crap & this totally rewrites history since everyone knows in the Superman mythology Lana Lang was never as important to Clark as SV has made her out to be!


Lois is the LOVE OF CLARK'S LIFE & now I have no idea how SV will be able to portray this love accurately after these 4 horrible eps being stuck in Lana hell!!:mad:

[CLanaF23]

clana's relationship will never really be over...because the writers arent going to break them up with the reason of "we dont love each other" cause that wouldnt be true.. they are goin to end with a obstaclein their way or clark has to fufill his destiny, or there lives are seperating them. so basically clark and lana will never truly stop loving each other..cause in a different situation they would definitly be together.. if the writers didnt want to follow the dumb mythos they would be together.
so when clark i guess "falls in love" with lois it will be because he CANT have LANA. not because hes choosing lana over lois. lois will always be # 2 on smallville.

[Sunny8]

if the writers didnt want to follow the dumb mythos they would be together.

The writer's are not following the "dumb mythos". If they were, Clana would have ended after they graduated from high school, Lana would have been forever interested in Clark/Superman but he would not be interested in her, Lana would marry Pete Ross, have his baby but name the baby "Clark", she would be divorced later, and stay in SV.

SV writer's have taken bits and pieces from the mythos but they are making up a lot of stuff on their own, i.e., Lana becoming an equal to Clark:confused:. No one is equal to Clark/Superman. That is what made him special in the first place. But, whatever.