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sithius
01-30-2009, 07:15 AM
As Lana so eloquently put it herself, 'We're equal now Clark. :)' whilst towering over him on the DP roof, condescendingly looking down at him.

Is she equal to the upcoming man of steel? Should she rightfully stand side by side to Superman in a few years? Should she be Superwoman? Should she be known for her equivalent strong moral code to Clark? Is she equal to both Lex and Clark?

Thoughts?

Cogito17
01-30-2009, 07:17 AM
I thought she just meant in terms of physical power, but I'm sure people will interpret it as you have because it sounds worse.

DGirlLois4Clark
01-30-2009, 07:19 AM
As equal as a mouse is to batman. purlease.

Bizarrolover
01-30-2009, 07:23 AM
I think it's not a coincidence that she thinks herself as Lex's and now Clark's equal. She now has Clark's powers and Lex's twisted morality and intentions (because Lex also thought 'someone' had to protect the world). Dangerous combination.

Saturn Girl
01-30-2009, 07:25 AM
Your poll options are too restrictive IMO so I didn't vote.

I don't think she's a small woman obsessed with power. But neither is she Clark's equal. Clark has his issues but his guiding principle of "truth, justice, and the American way" help him steer a steadier course.

Lana is misguided. A female Don Quixote tilting at Luthor inspired windmills.

Sunny8
01-30-2009, 07:28 AM
As Lana so eloquently put it herself, 'We're equal now Clark. :)' whilst towering over him on the DP roof, condescendingly looking down at him.

Is she equal to the upcoming man of steel? Should she rightfully stand side by side to Superman in a few years? Should she be Superwoman? Should she be known for her equivalent strong moral code to Clark? Is she equal to both Lex and Clark?

Thoughts?

Its interesting that she is always the one to say she is equal to some powerful man--first Lex, now Clark. And no way is she Clark's or Lex's equal. Lana lover's ask why people dislike Lana. This is one reason--delusions of grandeur.

madcatlady
01-30-2009, 07:28 AM
As Lana so eloquently put it herself, 'We're equal now Clark. :)' whilst towering over him on the DP roof, condescendingly looking down at him.

Is she equal to the upcoming man of steel? Should she rightfully stand side by side to Superman in a few years? Should she be Superwoman? Should she be known for her equivalent strong moral code to Clark? Is she equal to both Lex and Clark?

Thoughts?

The angle was what got to me. It felt like she was implying she was superior. But no, she's not an alien from an advanced planet, she just put on a suit. Anyway, it's what she does with her abilities that will prove whether she's super or not.

stenochick
01-30-2009, 07:40 AM
Lana is not Clark's equal. Clark is more than invincible skin. The man really has no equal, which is why he gets lonely and finds it so hard to let go of bad relationships such as the one he has with Lana.

petitemimi
01-30-2009, 07:41 AM
I think Lana and they way they wrote her is extremely pathetic. In Bulletproof, she said she's equal to Lex and now Clark? This is nonsense and bad tv.

Bizarrolover
01-30-2009, 07:46 AM
I think Lana and they way they wrote her is extremely pathetic. In Bulletproof, she said she's equal to Lex and now Clark? This is nonsense and bad tv.

I think it's not a coincidence. There's a reason why she compared herself to both because both men cannot be more opposite. It speaks volumes of how 'confused' she is.

zorasuperman
01-30-2009, 08:00 AM
superman is superman.
he is a god among men.
lana is human.
she can never be super
she is simply lana lang.
nothing more.
nothing less

myankskent
01-30-2009, 08:01 AM
Whether Lana is Clark's equal or not, I think that it's pretty clear that Lana is the love of Clark's life and that will pretty much never change.

BadaBingBadaBoomsday
01-30-2009, 08:05 AM
Equal in looks I think. teeheee

LoveHurts38
01-30-2009, 08:13 AM
No, absolutely not. She is nothing more than a small woman who is obsessed with power. :rolleyes:

devilneedsaride
01-30-2009, 08:13 AM
I think it says much for a person's character when they can wield great power and remain humble. Clark does this. Lana does not. Regardless of her other intentions, this alone keeps her from being on his level.

melissan02
01-30-2009, 08:14 AM
No Lana's not equal to Clark and definitely NOT Superman (wherever he is!:rolleyes::mad:)....it's not Lana.....it's a suit/skin!!!!!!!! Nothing more!!!

marcella
01-30-2009, 09:13 AM
No way

DreadShamus
01-30-2009, 09:14 AM
Very small, very obsessed. I'm hoping the power corrupts her even more and Clark is forced to take her out.

Billy Jor-El
01-30-2009, 09:16 AM
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I can see Lana going over the deep end with her new found "Godhood."

silverdragon
01-30-2009, 09:18 AM
in my opinion...she'll never be his equal in anyway....

Dyanara
01-30-2009, 09:29 AM
Lana has some really bad feminist complex, she wants to be every man's equal and becomes obsessed with it. Turning just as evil as Lex, now wanting to steal Clark's powers AGAIN! This chick needs some serious therapy.

Mickey_Bickey
01-30-2009, 09:37 AM
She is no equal to Superman, not even close! The mere suggestion of that is comical in itself along with this over exaggerated storyline that has Lana Lang being the "end all be all" instead of Clark Kent/Superman.

She's no Wonder Woman, and she's no iconic character. It's a shame, a real shame how the writing 'collaboration' of this entire arc has spit on the legendary lore of Superman in just 3 short episodes. The irrevocable damage that this arc has done is inexcusable!

Jedimaster_TTBaby
01-30-2009, 09:39 AM
OH HELL NO!!! Lana loves power.

Viper2369
01-30-2009, 10:02 AM
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I can see Lana going over the deep end with her new found "Godhood."


While I agree with most, that the writing for this episode wasn't good, I think everyone is forgetting what Saturn Girl said. Lana is destined for great things. I don't think it will corrupt her, but still don't think she should be on the same playing field as Clarke in regards to some abilities.

ClLaLeChFAN01
01-30-2009, 10:11 AM
I think through Lana's descision of becoming physically more powerful...Clark will realize that Lois is more right for him than Lana. Because Lois doesnt change for anyone. She expects them to accept them for who she is and she accepts them for who they are... at least that what I believe will happen.

Its almost like Lana converted to the season one Lana in the roof top scene, since she is in Clarks league...and can take care of herself. But really she is only fooling herself and Clark.

red_sun1938
01-30-2009, 10:31 AM
Last week she was Lex's equal. Now she's Clark's? Right...

Not in my book.

Thank you! When she made that statement I nearly choked to death. Who is writing this nonsense. Oh... wait. :\

Bizarrolover
01-30-2009, 10:49 AM
She says she is Lex's equal, she wants to be Clark's equal, and in reality she's the worst combination of both. Unlimited power in a dangerous, unbalanced mind.

Clana4Life
01-30-2009, 10:51 AM
Yep, she is his carbon copy. Dedicated to saving the world and being with him. They feel exactly the same way on these subjects. I just wonder if she can fly.

thehenry89
01-30-2009, 10:55 AM
Lana is not Clark's equal. Lana is obsessed with power and needs to be in therapy.

AgentChaos
01-30-2009, 10:55 AM
She is no equal to Superman, not even close! The mere suggestion of that is comical in itself along with this over exaggerated storyline that has Lana Lang being the "end all be all" instead of Clark Kent/Superman.

She's no Wonder Woman, and she's no iconic character. It's a shame, a real shame how the writing 'collaboration' of this entire arc has spit on the legendary lore of Superman in just 3 short episodes. The irrevocable damage that this arc has done is inexcusable!

She is in the comics, so by that nature, she is a bit of an iconic character. But equal to Clark? Not in a million years.

AndiGirl
01-30-2009, 10:59 AM
She isnt even close to being his equal.
I honestly think she was closer before she injected herself with powers. Now she seems sad and pathetic in my eyes.

Dont get me wrong...I still like her, but the fact that she truly believes the only way she can make an impact in the world is by becoming Clark....she's deluding herself. :\

changer
01-30-2009, 11:02 AM
well, we already knew that she is obsessed with power. if you ask me, she seemed like a complete nut to me. her whole quest to gain power was ridiculous. Gaining power apparently also meant more to her than being with clark. That shows how much he meant to her.

I had to laugh a little in the scene where she talked to tess near the end. It seemed unreal, somehow. and when she was talking to clark. I half expected her to say "Together we can rule the world" instead.
that said, it wouldn't surprise me, if she'd become a major villain.

davidbrenton
01-30-2009, 11:47 AM
She is equal to a typical villain. Her self-deception prevents her from growing healthily.

disciples of zod
01-30-2009, 11:47 AM
Noooooo!!!!!!!

~K

Estro-gen X
01-30-2009, 01:41 PM
There are only two women equal to Superman, Kara Zor-El and Diana Prince.

I love Lo but other than her writing and her heart she really can't compete as a equal.

dru-zod2501
01-30-2009, 02:24 PM
Yep, she is his carbon copy. Dedicated to saving the world and being with him. They feel exactly the same way on these subjects. I just wonder if she can fly.
if she flies before Clark, it won't just be the end of Smallville, that could be the end of CW!

IheartCJK
01-30-2009, 03:07 PM
lana lang is in NO way equal to Clark Kent in any respect except her truly pathetic naivete'

Luci3000
01-30-2009, 03:24 PM
She will never be equal to Clark......Man i hate this character

umm
01-30-2009, 03:40 PM
Lana is misguided. A female Don Quixote tilting at Luthor inspired windmills.

That was good, couldn't have said it better myself! well actually I do dissagree a bit, she is Clark's equal in one regard, she is constantly making one bad mistake after another!!!!

Jack-El49
01-30-2009, 03:40 PM
Since the events of Bride, I'd say Lana is superior to Clark.

Lana clearly knows what she wants and pursues it without regret.

Lana sought training and completed her training to be ready for her role as a superheroine.

Lana has attained exactly what she wants - to be powerful like Clark to fight villains.

Lana has achieved a level of greatness that Clark has rarely scratched when he could have at any time.

No, Lana hasn't saved anyone yet but that's what she's convinced herself that she wants to do. That's exactly why she'll do it alone. It's exactly the reason Clana ends.

Clark can't decide whether he wants to save the planet or meet his own needs first.

Clark can't decide whether his love for Lana should be stronger or not than it apparently is.

Clark can't separate from his roots to complete his training so that he's ready for his role as superhero.

So at this point in their character development, Lana is not his equal, Lana is superior to Clark.

Thanks for the great vibes PS3!

skylar
01-30-2009, 03:48 PM
OH HELL NO!!! Lana loves power.

You took the words right of my mouth!!

Bizarrolover
01-30-2009, 04:00 PM
Right now, Lana feels superior to Clark, that's why her 'let's fight together' speech was given from a superior place, looking down at him. She's been trained to loose all her human weaknessess and is wearing a suit that makes her invincible. Right now she thinks she is a God.

amelietw
01-30-2009, 05:29 PM
No, absolutely not. She is nothing more than a small woman who is obsessed with power

Nooooooo !

AngylWylde
01-30-2009, 06:08 PM
Oh wow, they just had to go there, didn't they? She believes she is equal to Clark Kent and last week it was Lex Luthor... *le sigh* Like another poster said, yes indeed, she always has had delusions of grandeur. I think she may have some good intentions, but fundamentally it is all about her and her desire to be equal to or better than everyone else.

thehenry89
01-30-2009, 06:31 PM
... delusions of grandeur. .

that's a good way to describe her aditude about her superpowers.

old guy
01-30-2009, 06:56 PM
A little tough to answer because I don't want this to sound like a Lana-bash and i need to overcome the extremely strong dislike for her character that the writing has led to.

There has been a lot of talk about the power-obsession that seems to drive Lana. While it has been mentioned a little, I don't think most people realize that most any mere mortal that were given the power of a god would probably react in a similar (not exactly the same, but similar) manner as Lana. Someone mentioned the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" phrase. I think this shows what would happen if most any human had god-like power. What makes Clark so special, and I'm really hoping he will someday become at least a little like Superman, is that he has the powers of a god and is not on any type of ego-trip to rule the world, get more power, make people kneel before Zod, err Clark, etc. Many people just don't realize how darn near impossible that would be for any mortal, including Lana. That's why regardless of physical power levels, there is no way that Lana or any mere mortal is equal to Clark.

thehenry89
01-30-2009, 07:00 PM
A little tough to answer because I don't want this to sound like a Lana-bash and i need to overcome the extremely strong dislike for her character that the writing has led to.

There has been a lot of talk about the power-obsession that seems to drive Lana. While it has been mentioned a little, I don't think most people realize that most any mere mortal that were given the power of a god would probably react in a similar (not exactly the same, but similar) manner as Lana. Someone mentioned the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" phrase. I think this shows what would happen if most any human had god-like power. What makes Clark so special, and I'm really hoping he will someday become at least a little like Superman, is that he has the powers of a god and is not on any type of ego-trip to rule the world, get more power, make people kneel before Zod, err Clark, etc. Many people just don't realize how darn near impossible that would be for any mortal, including Lana. That's why regardless of physical power levels, there is no way that Lana or any mere mortal is equal to Clark.

Johnathan Kent had clark's powers and he did the right thing with them.

smallvillefreak24
01-30-2009, 07:02 PM
cough crazy cough

ClanaDestinyObsession
01-30-2009, 07:04 PM
Yes, she's his equal 1/2+1/2=1 they complete each other. and now they can be together b/c she won't be the "distraction" in the way, but a help rather than a hindrance.

susangail
01-30-2009, 09:30 PM
No, she's superior in creep-factor.

Rival X The Great
01-30-2009, 09:38 PM
Yes, she's his equal 1/2+1/2=1 they complete each other. and now they can be together b/c she won't be the "distraction" in the way, but a help rather than a hindrance.

no offense with all due respect your fooling yourself if you think their equals or that they complete each other. Lana is still a distraction. Its time Clark realize what he has to do. Ditch Lana, Train at fortress of solitude and become iconic hero known as Superman. The writers made Lana to big of an character than she suppose to be. This is about Clark Kent's journey not Lana journey for more power. The writers need to get it together. And stop Clark from acting like a damn pansy.

thehenry89
01-30-2009, 09:41 PM
Lana's not even Aquaman's equal.

Rhaspodel
01-30-2009, 09:44 PM
If Lana is not Clark's equal, who then? Chloe? Lois? Pete? Lex (Well I said his foil)? But who, because most of you guys are saying she's not even Aquaman's equal...shame on you.

pizzahead2490
01-30-2009, 09:45 PM
only in her feeble mind

Rival X The Great
01-30-2009, 09:45 PM
Lana's not even Aquaman's equal.

That was kind of low even for me and I despise Lana. I will never put under pedastool of Aquaman.

Demien
01-30-2009, 10:43 PM
No, absolutely not. She is nothing more than a small woman who is obsessed with power.

MetroGirl06
01-30-2009, 10:47 PM
HA! Equal to Lex and Clark! Lana is such a kidder... lol

shawn316
01-30-2009, 11:03 PM
is like a priest saying he is Jesus' equal. Does it even matter if Clark becomes Superman anymore? It seems that every character in Smallville is going to be transformed into a super-human hero, so why do they even need a Superman anymore? The description of this show should now state "Watch the journey of young Clark, Lana, Chloe, Lois, Martha, Pete, Shelby and anyone else ever written into Smallville, become a Superhero!"

Anyone else agree?

Pantalaimon
01-30-2009, 11:47 PM
This episode is really confusing me...
That line... Someone puts on a suit and is suddenly equal to someone who has lived with such incredible powers for more than 20 years and is still getting used to them? I don't understand how they could do this? The only answer is that she will learn it's not going to be that easy in next week's episode. Otherwise... God. :o
Here's to hoping for the best.

Estro-gen X
01-31-2009, 12:16 AM
Lana's not even Aquaman's equal.

Aquaman will mess you up! You'll never be able to step in the ocean again, hell you'll never be able to go to an aquarium or have a bath if you mess with Orin, King of Atlantis:rotfl:

Supsfan
01-31-2009, 12:59 AM
So in Bulletproof we learn Lana is Lex's equal, in Power we learn Lana is Clark's equal, I just can't wait till Requiem, when the writers/producers tell us how Lana is Jesus Christ's equal.

bigblueplanet
01-31-2009, 09:12 AM
Right now, Lana feels superior to Clark, that's why her 'let's fight together' speech was given from a superior place, looking down at him. She's been trained to loose all her human weaknessess and is wearing a suit that makes her invincible. Right now she thinks she is a God.

Good observation, Belen.
I think you're right. She certainly thinks she is his equal (if not 'superior' :rolleyes:) because of the power. What a delusional woman. What makes Clark 'Super' is not only because of his power but his high moral codes and his ability to care. These are exactly what Lana lacks.

I thought they would redeem Lana with her last arc. To put Lana in her rightful place.
(=Clark's lifetime confidant) Instead, they make her into power-hungry-ranger. Unbelievable.

Tatiana
01-31-2009, 09:21 AM
She might be just as strong with the suit though, but she definitely isn't equal in spirit and heroic soul, she only wants to be stronger so people don't push her around anymore

Iluvgreen
01-31-2009, 09:27 AM
Lana has always been power craving.

nic25
01-31-2009, 09:38 AM
Since the events of Bride, I'd say Lana is superior to Clark.

Lana clearly knows what she wants and pursues it without regret.

Lana sought training and completed her training to be ready for her role as a superheroine.

Lana has attained exactly what she wants - to be powerful like Clark to fight villains.

Lana has achieved a level of greatness that Clark has rarely scratched when he could have at any time.

No, Lana hasn't saved anyone yet but that's what she's convinced herself that she wants to do. That's exactly why she'll do it alone. It's exactly the reason Clana ends.

Clark can't decide whether he wants to save the planet or meet his own needs first.

Clark can't decide whether his love for Lana should be stronger or not than it apparently is.

Clark can't separate from his roots to complete his training so that he's ready for his role as superhero.

So at this point in their character development, Lana is not his equal, Lana is superior to Clark.

Thanks for the great vibes PS3!

You know as bad as it sounds,your right!

We have watched Lana go from a small town girl next door to a "true superhero".There is something very wrong here.

And.....in no way,shape or form is Lana equal to Clark.

Tompouce
01-31-2009, 10:05 AM
Lana is not Clark's equal. Clark is more than invincible skin. The man really has no equal, which is why he gets lonely and finds it so hard to let go of bad relationships such as the one he has with Lana.
Yes, I think you are right. Clark is lost with this relation, he realizes it but he doesn't know how to do...so he comes back each time, unable to let it go.
Clark, don't worry we are there. As soon as you come back in the show (we can't say you were in "power":rolleyes:), I am sure (after "requiem", I am not living in utopia lol)you will become the hero you are:p

malcrew
01-31-2009, 10:11 AM
I do not think the nanite suit makes her just as invulnerable as Kal-el. The suit also does not give her heat vision, x-ray vision, freeze breath and Kal-el's other Superpowers.

SGuthrie27
01-31-2009, 10:11 AM
No, she is definitely NOT Clark's equal... Otherwise, the comic book series would be called Superman & Superwoman, which would be highly annoying, and I doubt Lois would approve, lol.

I'm not bashing Lana here -- she's had some good moments on the show, and has obviously grown and matured a lot from her conversations she's had with Clark and other characters more recently.

I think she truly DOES want to be Clark's equal, but I imagine that a part of her realizes, deep down, that she'll never really achieve that status. I was pretty surprised that all she's been doing since she left is trying to gain more power, but I don't think that the only reason is because she wants to become the perfect match for Clark. More than anything, I believe she wants to never be the "victim" again, as she was for pretty much all of seven seasons. So, in that regard, I can understand her point of view.

She is now Clark's equal in terms of raw power, and she does have a pretty sweet spirit about her, but she can never fully match Clark for the "total package super-hero" that he is.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Mickey_Bickey
01-31-2009, 10:24 AM
She is in the comics, so by that nature, she is a bit of an iconic character. But equal to Clark? Not in a million years.

True, she's in the comics, but she's not an important person in terms of Superman. She's mentioned as Superboy's girlfriend and a part of his high school years. I guess bit being the operative word.


I agree, not in a millions years!;)

skugers
01-31-2009, 10:27 AM
I think the "EQUAL" term she used surfaced from Lana's frustration.
And the hole quest for power and abilities has a lot to do with her being frustrated. For her, having power, equals to not having to let Clark put himself in the service of humanity. It's a selfish reason for "stealing", practically, the suit. I dont' buy the "for the greater good" purpouse she is trying to convince us an her with. She lies to herself and she lies to us to.

Psyloke
01-31-2009, 11:44 AM
So in Bulletproof we learn Lana is Lex's equal, in Power we learn Lana is Clark's equal, I just can't wait till Requiem, when the writers/producers tell us how Lana is Jesus Christ's equal.

LOL...
... frighteningly it's quite possible judging from where things currently stand... :eek:

Mickey_Bickey
01-31-2009, 11:45 AM
LOL...
... frighteningly it's quite possible judging from where things currently stand... :eek:


I wouldn't be surpised myself actually!:lol:

Kid Collins
01-31-2009, 02:44 PM
I think Lana means she and Clark are equal in that they both can make a difference now and help people.

It's her intent to do good in the world just like she knows Clark is destined to do great things as well.

And it helps that Imra told her that she'll accomplish great things in her life separate from being just Clark's love in the future.

That gave her the reassurance and confidence to say that.

pizzahead2490
01-31-2009, 02:47 PM
And it helps that Imra told her that she'll accomplish great things in her life separate from being just Clark's love in the future.
.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: sorry i could not help my self.


now that i think about it i think lana meant equal to clark now that they can get physical:p lol nvm

tippership commander
01-31-2009, 02:48 PM
I think Lana means she and Clark are equal in that they both can make a difference now and help people.

It's her intent to do good in the world just like she knows Clark is destined to do great things as well.

And it helps that Imra told her that she'll accomplish great things in her life separate from being just Clark's love in the future.

That gave her the reassurance and confidence to say that.

and this is 100% what the writers are thinking

im glad you're the one person here who sees that, i agree completly

Kid Collins
01-31-2009, 02:53 PM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: sorry i could not help my self.

The way I see it, Lana has absorbed alien DNA that's part of her suit.

It gave her superpowers. Will it also slow down her aging?

Lois is all human. She'll age normally. But Clark won't.

So, Lois maybe with Clark in the present, but depending on how they end Clana, they may have a future after Lois.

If Clana's future is left open who knows?



now that i think about it i think lana meant equal to clark now that they can get physical:p lol nvm

Definitely. Clark can be as super as he wants. :lol:

pizzahead2490
01-31-2009, 02:56 PM
kid collins would you honestly like smallville to be a total rewrite of superman? just asking

HumanoidCorvin
01-31-2009, 02:56 PM
Clark is a bda and lana is money and whiney.

e-µ-i
01-31-2009, 03:03 PM
I think it's obvious what I voted for...

alejandrita439
01-31-2009, 04:19 PM
i dont think she is clarks equal

Hopefulsuicide
01-31-2009, 04:23 PM
pfft last week she is lex's equal, the week before the legion of superheros were kissing her a*se, and now this!

she's just a silly little girl from Kansas... she is going to dissapear into his past having achieved not much... and the sooner the better, because i am getting so tired of the need to centre everything around how amazing lana lang is...

BULLITT
01-31-2009, 06:33 PM
If by that you mean - when they are together on screen, the crap meter hits 93.975, then yeah, they're equal.

old guy
01-31-2009, 07:10 PM
Johnathan Kent had clark's powers and he did the right thing with them.

Pa Kent had a singular purpose when he got his powers - to bring Clark back to Smallville. Then he lost the powers. We don't know what he would have done or what choices he would make if he were living with those powers for a period of time.

But I do think there's a good chance that he would have used them for good. There are two reasons (advanced in the mythos) as to why Superman doesn't abuse his powers: a) he is more or less 'hard-wired' that way as an alien and b) the upbring he received from the Kents.

kg1507
01-31-2009, 09:06 PM
Nope.

Lazy Boy
01-31-2009, 09:27 PM
Nope.

ditto

ColdPlay3r
02-01-2009, 03:50 AM
hello no

MrZeppo
02-01-2009, 03:51 AM
Sorry, I don't think Lana's really an equal.

Lana's methods are questionable. And this is mostly her ego I think. I don't think she's power hungry, I just think she has had people try and protect her for years that she became desperate to prove she can handle things herself. I also believe that because she believed she was able to match wits with Lex that she gets a bit cocky. The way she told Tess that she was Lex's equal was laughable. Lex faked Lana's pregnancy AND cloned her. That's not how Lex treats an equal. I don't think Lex even believes he has an equal. She was another pawn in his life.

BTW, who speaks like that? She keeps on bringing up her being equals to people all the time, talk about an inferiority complex. Why do the writers keep doing that? It makes her sound pompous.

It was fine when Lana was the girl next door of season 1-3, but when Clark started his kryptonian journey in Season 4 she got involved in ridiculous storylines because I seriously don't think AlMiles had a clue what to do with her.

But Clark, what you see is what you get. He's a good guy. It's usually while under the influence of kryptonite do we see him act differently. His inhibitions or paranoia may be released, but normally Clark Kent is a good guy. He may think dark thoughts like anyone else, but he does the right thing in the end.

I think Lana was a good person who lost her way. There are facets of her character that come out that have scared me. Seriously, it scares me how manipulative Lana became after being with Lex. She always was a bit manipulative, but she got worse after Lex. In Season 7 it disturbed me how quickly she could switch from the vengeful Lana to the Lana who talks to people with sugary sweet dulcet tones. She can flip it like a switch. She still does it. She manipulated events to get Lex's power suit.

Yet she had admirable goals, but my problem is that the more often you turn around and compromise yourself for a greater good, it's easier to justify making those compromises again. And again. Until you've compromised yourself so much you become the thing you were fighting against. Hopefully she stops now. I do believe that just because she has power, it doesn't make her his equal. Let's see how she uses this new power.

I do find it ironic that the girl who used to be so presumptuous and lecture Clark about secrets and lies has become the a person whose life is wrapped around secrets and lies.

Jack-El49
02-01-2009, 08:34 AM
You know as bad as it sounds,your right!

We have watched Lana go from a small town girl next door to a "true superhero".There is something very wrong here.

And.....in no way,shape or form is Lana equal to Clark.

Nicole: And you know what? I hate it when I'm right and trying to be sarcastic! :lol:

All those things are true though and by those measures, she is superior. Obviously, I think she's a small woman obsessed with power but I was simply trying to make the point of how badly the writers have made Clark look when someone like Lana can outshine him in those measures of progression and creating her own destiny.

ClLaLeChFAN01
02-01-2009, 05:49 PM
It seems that Lana doesnt have any limits/rules. Like how Batman and Superman has that one rule they wont break (dont kill). Shell do anything, and I think that is the biggest lesson that she will have learn herself.

Serynarpc
02-03-2009, 12:59 PM
I think it says much for a person's character when they can wield great power and remain humble. Clark does this. Lana does not. Regardless of her other intentions, this alone keeps her from being on his level.

Quoted for truth. For all of Lana's words praising Clark, she fails at having his humility and desire to help others. Clark would never ask for someone to give him something to save the world- he realizes the great power he has and that it must be used sparingly.

Lana uses it like a parlor trick or a PCP induced rage fest.

While she may one day be a great heroine for good as Emra said, right now I can't get past who self involved Lana is.

velocity
02-03-2009, 01:08 PM
Quoted for truth. For all of Lana's words praising Clark, she fails at having his humility and desire to help others. Clark would never ask for someone to give him something to save the world- he realizes the great power he has and that it must be used sparingly.

Lana uses it like a parlor trick or a PCP induced rage fest.

While she may one day be a great heroine for good as Emra said, right now I can't get past who self involved Lana is.
She does have a desire to help people but no one is like Clark, not even the almighty Lois Lane. :rolleyes:

You haven't seen her use her powers this time around so you can't really say anything about how she uses them.

Posts around this forum sometimes really makes me wanna shoot myself in the head.
So full of hate, negativity, overrations, false facts and "righteousness".

NIGHTRAVENXLR1
02-03-2009, 01:13 PM
no don't think she is clark equal by a long shot. her lust for power will drive her to anything. don't see clark doing anything to get the job done. i think when she as a goal she will stop at nothing to get there. end then on the otherhand she apears to be this sweet girl who has a great devotion to clark. but i think her lust for power will be the end of them for sure. no way clark will keep looking the other way IMO. at least i hope so. i could always tolorate lana on the show. well sortoff. but this latest arc has been a bit to much in my opinion.

zanaamen
02-03-2009, 01:24 PM
Since the events of Bride, I'd say Lana is superior to Clark.

Lana clearly knows what she wants and pursues it without regret.

Lana sought training and completed her training to be ready for her role as a superheroine.

Lana has attained exactly what she wants - to be powerful like Clark to fight villains.

Lana has achieved a level of greatness that Clark has rarely scratched when he could have at any time.

No, Lana hasn't saved anyone yet but that's what she's convinced herself that she wants to do. That's exactly why she'll do it alone. It's exactly the reason Clana ends.

Clark can't decide whether he wants to save the planet or meet his own needs first.

Clark can't decide whether his love for Lana should be stronger or not than it apparently is.

Clark can't separate from his roots to complete his training so that he's ready for his role as superhero.

So at this point in their character development, Lana is not his equal, Lana is superior to Clark.

Thanks for the great vibes PS3!

best post, this is my answer

velocity
02-03-2009, 02:21 PM
no don't think she is clark equal by a long shot. her lust for power will drive her to anything. don't see clark doing anything to get the job done. i think when she as a goal she will stop at nothing to get there. end then on the otherhand she apears to be this sweet girl who has a great devotion to clark. but i think her lust for power will be the end of them for sure. no way clark will keep looking the other way IMO. at least i hope so. i could always tolorate lana on the show. well sortoff. but this latest arc has been a bit to much in my opinion.
Her lust for power? That's not why she put on the suit.. you need to rewatch the epsiode.

zanaamen
02-03-2009, 02:51 PM
I dont agree with u, she is taking off apower from someone who lust for power
and you know that person

HalJordan4184
02-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Her lust for power? That's not why she put on the suit.. you need to rewatch the epsiode.

Her lust for power, and need to be "equal" to Clark, is exactly why she put on the suit. In fact, it's been her driving character trait for three seasons now. Lana needs to be able to do everything other people can do.

IHeartClois
04-05-2009, 10:03 PM
LMAO! 80% hate Lana....I love this.

And hell no, she will never be his equal.

ChlarkerFan
04-13-2009, 02:46 AM
This episode proved how small Lana Small really is. I mean what a fitting name and what a pathetic way to go out of a series. Adios, Lana Small!

Mickey_Bickey
04-13-2009, 04:05 PM
She has never been Clark's equal and never will be Clark's equal. That line was indicative of the horrendous writing of Power and Requiem. I can't say it enough how bad this and Requiem were. Even the thought that Lana could be Lex' equal is ludicrous! Thankfully, she's gone.

Hopefulsuicide
04-13-2009, 04:24 PM
Lana and Veritas - the two Smallville cancers. Without their appearance, Season 8 would have been perfect. With them, season 8 comes dangerously close to sucking.

Is Lana Clark's equal? That's like asking if my pet rock is my equal. Personally I think my pet rock has a better chance. He's got quite a strong personality :lol:

Violet-Shadow
04-13-2009, 04:34 PM
Lana is not Clark's equal in any way.

Mickey_Bickey
04-13-2009, 06:15 PM
Lana and Veritas - the two Smallville cancers. Without their appearance, Season 8 would have been perfect. With them, season 8 comes dangerously close to sucking.

Is Lana Clark's equal? That's like asking if my pet rock is my equal. Personally I think my pet rock has a better chance. He's got quite a strong personality :lol:

:rotfl:

Snowfire
04-13-2009, 06:51 PM
Well Clark said it best when he told Lana, he always dreamed of finding someone who he could share his life with and work along side him protecting the world. Just like his parents looked after the farm and him. If Jonathan and Martha are seen as equals in that regard why wouldn't Clark and Lana. We know Lana isn't as powerful as Clark but together they can look after each other and do what's best for the greater good. If that isn't an equal and balanced relationship. You all need to open your eyes and mind a bit more.

Hopefulsuicide
04-13-2009, 06:55 PM
Jonathon and Martha were equals. And they had a lovely balanced relationship.

Lana doesn't become Clark's equal because she nearly burned herself to death in her desperation to get superpowers and be important in the world. She becomes even less of his equal... she becomes pathetic...

Mickey_Bickey
04-13-2009, 07:01 PM
Well Clark said it best when he told Lana, he always dreamed of finding someone who he could share his life with and work along side him protecting the world. Just like his parents looked after the farm and him. If Jonathan and Martha are seen as equals in that regard why wouldn't Clark and Lana. We know Lana isn't as powerful as Clark but together they can look after each other and do what's best for the greater good. If that isn't an equal and balanced relationship. You all need to open your eyes and mind a bit more.

Honestly, Clark and Lana's relationship was based on lies, mistrust, insecurities, doubts, and more time apart than together.

Sorry, they're nothing like Martha and Johnathan, actually quite the opposite.

Superman has no equal, and it was quite ridiculous to hear Lana state such a thing.

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Jonathon and Martha were equals. And they had a lovely balanced relationship.

Lana doesn't become Clark's equal because she nearly burned herself to death in her desperation to get superpowers and be important in the world. She becomes even less of his equal... she becomes pathetic...

Pathetic is an understatement when referring to this episode or so called relationship.

Hopefulsuicide
04-13-2009, 07:08 PM
Superman has no equal, and it was quite ridiculous to hear Lana state such a thing.


Lois makes a much better equal, especially in LnC... In fact it's him who has to prove to be her equal in order to keep up with her :lol:

But no, Superman technically has no equal, he is the best :p

jlbtjb316
04-14-2009, 11:17 AM
I don’t feel that Lana was trying to imply that she is Clark’s physical or moral equal just like I don't believe that Lana prided herself on being evil like Lex a few seasons ago. When she initially got together with Lex, she truly believed that he loved her and that he had changed (e.g. Cyborg). She did not know about all of his evil deeds. When she said that she felt as his equal, I believe she was speaking in relationship terms. She felt that he treated her as an equal - as someone that he did not try to control or keep things from. Little did she know that this was not the case. In the context of her conversation with Clark in Power I think she simply meant that they were both invulnerable to pain and physical harm and could now share their lives in a more intimate way than would normally be possible and could work together to make the world a better place. I also did not feel that her using the suit somehow makes her like Lex. Lex Luthor uses, tortures, experiments on and kills people to increase his own power and further his agenda. It is true that Lana made mistakes last season in trying to go after the Luthors the way that she did, but she only went after the Luthors - two evil people that she felt were a direct threat to her and to Clark. I think at the end of last season and during this arc that she showed that she has learned from those mistakes. She went to Dr. Grohl and asked him to allow her to use the technology for good. She and others repeatedly stated her intent and desire to keep the technology out of the hands of a madman and to use the suit to do good in this world. It's true that she could have destroyed the suit, but maybe she didn't want technology that could be used to help so many people to be destroyed, and she was willing to take the risk to do that. We can disagree with her choice to wear the suit, but I think she did it because it is how she wanted to help the world. This doesn't make her a saint or more or less noble than anyone else. It was simply her decision on what to do with her life. I do wish that the writers would have done a better job during the Lana arc to make her motivations and intentions clear.

Throughout the show, Lana has shown a desire to help others. With the suit she would be able to help people on a larger scale than she normally would be able to. Given what she knows now about Lex, about the existence of aliens and about the terrible enemies facing Clark (Brainiac, Doomsday, etc.) maybe she also wanted to be more of a direct help to Clark by being able to watch his back so to speak. I don't think that this implies that she feels inferior without the suit. In some ways it is like those who join the military special forces or aspire to high political offices or serve as police officers and firefighters. They could do a great deal of good as average citizens, but they can also serve in a greater capacity by aspiring to these careers. Just because they seek these careers does not mean that they feel inferior as regular citizens or that they are trying to be equal to someone else serving in those fields. Depending on the type of career that they choose and the dangers they will face, they train and prepare and arm themselves as necessary. I think Lana had the opportunity to enhance her ability to do good and was willing to endure the pain and sacrifices that would be necessary.

Snowfire
04-14-2009, 07:31 PM
Lois makes a much better equal, especially in LnC... In fact it's him who has to prove to be her equal in order to keep up with her :lol:

But no, Superman technically has no equal, he is the best :p

It never takes long to have someone bring up another show/story when trying to justify something in these threads.

Anyway, in Smallville, Clark and Lana have so much life history in common and have complimented eachother through out the seasons. Clark became mortal for Lana and then Lana became super for Clark. Those are two sacrifices that they both made to be with eachother and to ultimately help save the world. The whole series can be seen as a journey for them both to reach this level of equality and balance.

Also, about this discussion on equality. I've always considered Kara as equal to Clark (Superman). I've never seen her as inferior to him, especially when she has been shown on Smallville as very capable and developed, and some of us my argue even more super than Clark. This is probably why I've always been a Supergirl fan more than I've ever been a Superman fan. There is never enough superheroines in the world and now Lana can be place right up there along side Kara, Black Canary and Zattana.

ChloeBot
04-14-2009, 07:46 PM
Lana is equal to scum. So my vote is no. If she were Clark's equal she wouldn't have gone through her pathetic little journey to become a *gasp* supeeeeeeerhero! :rolleyes:

Snowfire
04-14-2009, 07:50 PM
Jonathon and Martha were equals. And they had a lovely balanced relationship.

Lana doesn't become Clark's equal because she nearly burned herself to death in her desperation to get superpowers and be important in the world. She becomes even less of his equal... she becomes pathetic...

I am glad to hear you feel for Lana. She does deserve sympathy for all she's been through.

Anyways, about Jonathan and Martha's relationship being equal to Clark and Lana's. Didn't Martha leave her life in Metropolis to become Jonathan wife on his farm. She had a lot of goals and resources but she choose to give them up to be with the man she loved and live the life they both wanted. And it's not like she could do as much as Jonathan could but she helped where she could and provided the support and love he needed. Even as parents the both protected and guided Clark equally (even if the series sometimes made pa Kent the wiser one.) So even though Clark may become a greater hero than Lana and has been born with powers doesn't make him better to anyone else who want to live a life similar to his and has to acquire similar abilities. Lana has always wanted to make the world a better place and she finally has the tool to accomplish that. And even if she can't be with the one she loves, she can do as much good in the world whether she's with him or not. (Interestingly, now that Lana is kryptonite-infused she is even more powerful than Clark.)

ChloeBot
04-14-2009, 07:51 PM
She has never been Clark's equal and never will be Clark's equal. That line was indicative of the horrendous writing of Power and Requiem. I can't say it enough how bad this and Requiem were. Even the thought that Lana could be Lex' equal is ludicrous! Thankfully, she's gone.

Talk about shoving Lana's greatness down our throat. Oh the great and powerful Lana, both the equal to the villain and to the hero of the story. Who actually swallowed that piece of baloney?

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Her lust for power, and need to be "equal" to Clark, is exactly why she put on the suit. In fact, it's been her driving character trait for three seasons now. Lana needs to be able to do everything other people can do.

Quoted for truth.

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LMAO! 80% hate Lana....I love this.

And hell no, she will never be his equal.

Well who wouldn't hate such a stupid character? I mean, come on! If the writers didn't use the last arc to shove her down my throat then maybe I'd have sympathy, but come on! Trying to portray her a superior to Clark? Having her actually say out loud she was Lex/Clark's equal? That woman was off her rocker!

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This episode proved how small Lana Small really is. I mean what a fitting name and what a pathetic way to go out of a series. Adios, Lana Small!

Quoted for truth.

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So in Bulletproof we learn Lana is Lex's equal, in Power we learn Lana is Clark's equal, I just can't wait till Requiem, when the writers/producers tell us how Lana is Jesus Christ's equal.

Quoted for truth.

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No, she is definitely NOT Clark's equal... Otherwise, the comic book series would be called Superman & Superwoman, which would be highly annoying, and I doubt Lois would approve, lol.

I'm not bashing Lana here -- she's had some good moments on the show, and has obviously grown and matured a lot from her conversations she's had with Clark and other characters more recently.

I think she truly DOES want to be Clark's equal, but I imagine that a part of her realizes, deep down, that she'll never really achieve that status. I was pretty surprised that all she's been doing since she left is trying to gain more power, but I don't think that the only reason is because she wants to become the perfect match for Clark. More than anything, I believe she wants to never be the "victim" again, as she was for pretty much all of seven seasons. So, in that regard, I can understand her point of view.

She is now Clark's equal in terms of raw power, and she does have a pretty sweet spirit about her, but she can never fully match Clark for the "total package super-hero" that he is.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

Yes, but too bad that instead of Lana setting a good example for young girls by overcoming all of her obstacles ON HER OWN she has to rely on using a suit from a murderous villain. Lana's arc showed that Lana couldn't be a hero on her own. She needed a suit and powers to accomplish that. And that just sent a horrible message to young women everywhere, IMO.

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Lana has some really bad feminist complex, she wants to be every man's equal and becomes obsessed with it. Turning just as evil as Lex, now wanting to steal Clark's powers AGAIN! This chick needs some serious therapy.

Please. Lana is in no way a feminist. She didn't accomplish anything on her own. It was all based on STOLEN BLOOD MONEY. I mean she put on the suit created by the villain of the story! How sick is that? He owned her body once before and he ended up owning it even from his grave. And of course, Lex got what he always wanted, to keep Clark and Lana separated. If Lana hadn't been so obsessed with saving the world through super-means this wouldn't have happened.

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OH HELL NO!!! Lana loves power.

It wasn't even about power, that's the sad thing. It was about Lana not being able to save the world ON HER OWN. That's the sad thing. And from a young person's perspective it just makes you think, "Well what can I do? Lana only became a hero when she got superpowers. I'll never have that." And that's a very negative message to send.

Pitbull On A Pantleg
04-14-2009, 08:35 PM
Lana has not been/is not/will never be Clark's equal.

During her eight-year on again/off again relationship with Clark, Lana has on countless occasions accused Clark of keeping secrets from her, all the while keeping various secrets from him (her underage relationship with Jason, her murder of Genevive Teague, etc). She's hounded him relentlessly to find out his secret, several times breaking up with him just because he wouldn't tell her. She's lied, stolen, kidnapped, and murdered.

During "Wrath" when she got Clark's powers, she spied on Clark and Chloe's conversation, kicked Lois through a plate-glass door, choked and threatened Grant Gabriel, and attempted to kill Lex. The only thing that stopped her in that instance was Clark.

In "Power" the flashbacks show her barging in on some guy and begging him to take her on as a student, whining about every step of the training, and then abandoning the training for the easier Prometheus suit as soon as it got hard.

In "Requiem" Lana didn't even consider the option of trying to remove the kryptonite from the suit. She just happily skipped town, free of her Clark-shaped conscience to wreak havoc on an unsuspecting world.

Mickey_Bickey
04-15-2009, 08:02 AM
Talk about shoving Lana's greatness down our throat. Oh the great and powerful Lana, both the equal to the villain and to the hero of the story. Who actually swallowed that piece of baloney?

Not I, but they certainly tried to force feed us that's for sure! It went down like acid!!!

jlbtjb316
04-15-2009, 11:54 AM
[QUOTE=Pitbull On A Pantleg;4734756]Lana has not been/is not/will never be Clark's equal.

As I said in my earlier post, I don’t think that Lana was trying to imply that she was Clark’s physical or moral equal just that they were both invulnerable to pain and harm and could share their lives together in a more intimate way than would normally be possible and work together to help others.



During her eight-year on again/off again relationship with Clark, Lana has on countless occasions accused Clark of keeping secrets from her, all the while keeping various secrets from him (her underage relationship with Jason, her murder of Genevive Teague, etc). She's hounded him relentlessly to find out his secret, several times breaking up with him just because he wouldn't tell her. She's lied, stolen, kidnapped, and murdered.

I agree that Lana has done bad things and made mistakes in the past, and I would like to address some of the particulars that you mentioned. One of the problems with the writing on Smallville is that it is so inconsistent from week to week and often so ambiguous that it is difficult to determine the true thoughts, feelings and motivations of the characters. Many things are simply left up to interpretation.

On the whole I would say that Lana has generally made more of an effort to be honest with Clark than he has with her, but I always felt for both of them because I understood why they felt it necessary to keep the secrets that they did. As for her murdering Genevieve Teague, Lana was possessed by Isobel who was the one who actually killed Mrs. Teague. Like most of the other characters on Smallville, Lana has lied and stolen things and killed people in self defense, but I do not recall any murders.

I agree that Lana has left Clark a couple of times, and Clark has also left her, walked away from their relationship and/or pushed her away many times as well. One of the frustrating things about both Clark and Lana is that they tend to make decisions about their relationship without consulting each other (even though I believe they have the best of intentions). She did not hound him relentlessly about his secret, and in those times that Lana has left I feel like it is much more complicated than him not telling her his secret. I feel like the underlying reason that she left in most cases is that she either loves him and can't be in a relationship with him or she wants to protect him.

Over the years I think that Lana tried over and over again to reach out to Clark and to understand him. When he broke things off with her in Season 3 and pushed her away, she understandably attempted to move on with her life. He had told her that he could not be in a relationship with her, and though she still loved him she went to Paris to try to get over him. From her point of view it seemed that Clark was unwilling to be in a relationship with her but that he wanted her to stay around but not be in a relationship with anyone else. She gave him every chance to change his mind up until the last minute, but he did not show up. She assumed that he did not want a relationship with her and left to spare herself the pain of being near him without being with him. It is true that there were extenuating circumstances, but she did not know that. When she wanted to take a break from their relationship in Reckoning (Season 5) it was because he had been pushing her away without explanation since Hidden and then lied to her once again after the time reversal. I understood why Clark did what he did, but I also understood how hurt Lana was and how she felt that Clark didn’t love her enough to be honest with her. When she left at the end of season 6, she thought she had to leave for their own protection, not because she didn’t love him. She left to protect herself from Lex and to give herself time to figure out how to get out from under the Luthors and protect Clark at the same time. At the end of season 7, Lana did not leave Clark out of choice. She was kidnapped by Lex’s men and forced to make the video tape.

I think that after she escaped she probably wanted to lay low for a while and stay off of Lex’s radar screen while she prepared herself to better resist such attacks in the future. Clark did not know that she had been kidnapped but thought that she left so that she would not hold him back. Perhaps after learning about all the good that Clark was doing, she felt that maybe Clark was better off without her. Even back in season 7 (in the episode Action I think) Lana expressed concern to Clark that she was holding him back from his destiny. I think she still loved Clark and wanted to be with him but felt like they couldn’t be together because Clark’s constant concern for her safety would hinder his work. I think Lana so believed in Clark and the great good that he could do for the world that she gave up what she wanted so that he could fulfill his destiny. I think her decisions are debatable and that she should have gone back to talk to Clark about this, but I think she thought she was doing the right thing for Clark. I think she then tried to bury her feelings and focus on what to do with her life and maybe how she could help both Clark and the world - which led her to the Prometheus suit. Using it, she could keep the technology from being used for evil by Lex and could help make the world a better place.



During "Wrath" when she got Clark's powers, she spied on Clark and Chloe's conversation, kicked Lois through a plate-glass door, choked and threatened Grant Gabriel, and attempted to kill Lex. The only thing that stopped her in that instance was Clark.

I agree that Lana was wrong to seek revenge on the Luthors in the way that she did and that she misused Clark’s powers. To me it was not so much the powers that were the problem as her heart that was the problem. Lana was obviously traumatized by her relationship with Lex, and both she and Clark failed to deal with this pain in a constructive way. Lana was motivated both by revenge and her fierce desire to protect Clark and failed to share her pain with Clark. I think Lana was also hurt by the fact that Clark made no attempts to stop Lex after what he had done to her and others and felt that Lex deserved to be punished for all the evil that he had done to others. The powers gave her the ability to do what she normally would not have been able to do, and she was not used to having to bring such power under control. Oliver was driven to do the same thing to Lex, and it was not a suit that drove him to do it.

Having said all this, I believe that Lana came to realize the error of her ways at the end of Season 7 and wanted to put all that behind her and work to help Clark and those who had been victimized by Lex. I think she realized that her pursuit of revenge almost caused her to lose herself. Clark is to be commended for not giving up on her. He helped her to come back from a place of revenge and hurt and helped her to refocus her life on what she has always wanted to do – to find her place in the world and help others.



In "Power" the flashbacks show her barging in on some guy and begging him to take her on as a student, whining about every step of the training, and then abandoning the training for the easier Prometheus suit as soon as it got hard.

In my earlier post, I discussed Lana’s motivations for using the suit. While I would not have gone the route of giving Lana powers if I was one of the writers, I don’t think it was a terrible thing to do either. It gave them a way to end the Clana relationship and to allow Lana to go on to do good in the world. To me, more people who are willing to sacrifice to make the world a better place is a good thing. In Power, I don't think that Lana abandoned her training for the easier Prometheus suit as soon as the training got hard but that she had already decided to wear the suit before going to see Carter and that the purpose of the extensive training was to prepare herself mentally and physically. Having misused Clark’s powers before, I think she was well aware of the danger and that is why she took such extreme measures to prevent that from happening again. She also knew that the process to wear the suit would be painful, and she needed to prepare herself for that. When she went as far as she could with Carter, she left to take the next step.



In "Requiem" Lana didn't even consider the option of trying to remove the kryptonite from the suit. She just happily skipped town, free of her Clark-shaped conscience to wreak havoc on an unsuspecting world.

We may just have to agree to disagree on your statements here. Whether you agree with her wearing the suit or not, the writers did try to make it clear that Lana's motivations were good and that she wanted to help make the world a better place and keep the technology out of the hands of a madman. Imra in Legion verifies that Lana is not corrupted by the power and that she does go on to do good in the world, not wreak havoc.

It seemed to me that Lana was devastated by what Lex did to them. She said that she had been working with Dr. Grohl to reverse the process and that they had tried everything to no avail. I think the writers wanted to make it clear that nothing more could be done because there were no other experts in alien nanotechnology that they could go to for help. I think that Clark and Lana both truly thought that this was an insurmountable problem and that she left because she loved him so much that she wanted to spare them both the pain that her staying would cause and to allow him to focus on his destiny. Sometimes it is pointless on Smallville to try to read too much into why certain characters do certain things. The main reason that neither Clark or Lana tried harder to find a cure was because KK was not coming back, not because they didn't love each other enough to fight for their relationship.

Hopefulsuicide
04-15-2009, 12:56 PM
It never takes long to have someone bring up another show/story when trying to justify something in these threads.

what I said about LnC wasn't my justification for Lana not being Clark's equal at all.. it was, if anything, a little off topic statement about my love for Lois on LnC...



Anyway, in Smallville, Clark and Lana have so much life history in common

Clark is an alien from another planet, Lana is a human - Lana was a prom queen cheerleader dating a jock, Clark was an outcast with alien powers... sorry, don't see it



and have complimented eachother through out the seasons.

as well as putting each other down, one accusing the other of lying or hiding things all the time



Clark became mortal for Lana and then Lana became super for Clark.

Clark became mortal because he couldn't make it back to the fortress in time because he was battling kryptonians... he'd found out from Lois that they were here and after him and so he went after them to stop them... Lana just happened to be in the room...

He enjoyed his time as a mortal with her, don't get me wrong, but he did not decide to become mortal because he wanted to be with Lana.



Those are two sacrifices that they both made to be with eachother and to ultimately help save the world. The whole series can be seen as a journey for them both to reach this level of equality and balance.

how did Clark becoming mortal help save the world? I thought it helped kill Clark, then when he was brought back to life cause the death of Lana, and then when time was reversed, the death of Jonathon Kent...



Also, about this discussion on equality. I've always considered Kara as equal to Clark (Superman). I've never seen her as inferior to him, especially when she has been shown on Smallville as very capable and developed, and some of us my argue even more super than Clark. This is probably why I've always been a Supergirl fan more than I've ever been a Superman fan. There is never enough superheroines in the world and now Lana can be place right up there along side Kara, Black Canary and Zattana.

I will never see Lana as a superhero because what she did to become one was insane, dangerous and I perceive to be for all the wrong reasons.



I am glad to hear you feel for Lana. She does deserve sympathy for all she's been through.

Yes, I truly believe she does. But i think she needs councilling for what she did to herself, not a pat on the back.



Anyways, about Jonathan and Martha's relationship being equal to Clark and Lana's. Didn't Martha leave her life in Metropolis to become Jonathan wife on his farm. She had a lot of goals and resources but she choose to give them up to be with the man she loved and live the life they both wanted. And it's not like she could do as much as Jonathan could but she helped where she could and provided the support and love he needed. Even as parents the both protected and guided Clark equally (even if the series sometimes made pa Kent the wiser one.) So even though Clark may become a greater hero than Lana and has been born with powers doesn't make him better to anyone else who want to live a life similar to his and has to acquire similar abilities. Lana has always wanted to make the world a better place and she finally has the tool to accomplish that. And even if she can't be with the one she loves, she can do as much good in the world whether she's with him or not.

Martha and Jonathon have a mutual respect. They discuss things before they do them, they are honest with each other apart from the rare occasion. If they have an issue they sit down and talk about it as husband and wife. They work together as farmers because it is a simple and happy life to lead, and they enjoy the countryside and it's a nice place to start a family.

Lana and Clark have spent their entire relationship talking about honesty and trust and never giving it. They have lied and lied to each other, with Lana eventually tricking Clark into showing the truth. They have been incredibly demanding of each other, and have both had an idealized version of their relationship that never came to fruition. Lana wanted to become as powerful as him in her last ditch desperate attempt to cling to the man she loved. She hoped it would mean they could fight crime as a couple. But this is not a stable thing to want. And she didn't discuss it with him first... she just nearly killed herself and then expected him to be jolly about it all... and you know whats the sickest thing? He was!

There is no comparison, not in my eyes :(



(Interestingly, now that Lana is kryptonite-infused she is even more powerful than Clark.)

Yes, Lana could now beat Superman in a fight... can you understand why anyone who ever loved Superman is now angry?

suzieQ
04-15-2009, 01:08 PM
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As I said in my earlier post, I don’t think that Lana was trying to imply that she was Clark’s physical or moral equal just that they were both invulnerable to pain and harm and could share their lives together in a more intimate way than would normally be possible and work together to help others.

Nicely said. This is how I believe the words to mean.


In my earlier post, I discussed Lana’s motivations for using the suit. While I would not have gone the route of giving Lana powers if I was one of the writers, I don’t think it was a terrible thing to do either. It gave them a way to end the Clana relationship and to allow Lana to go on to do good in the world. To me, more people who are willing to sacrifice to make the world a better place is a good thing. In Power, I don't think that Lana abandoned her training for the easier Prometheus suit as soon as the training got hard but that she had already decided to wear the suit before going to see Carter and that the purpose of the extensive training was to prepare herself mentally and physically. Having misused Clark’s powers before, I think she was well aware of the danger and that is why she took such extreme measures to prevent that from happening again. She also knew that the process to wear the suit would be painful, and she needed to prepare herself for that. When she went as far as she could with Carter, she left to take the next step.




We may just have to agree to disagree on your statements here. Whether you agree with her wearing the suit or not, the writers did try to make it clear that Lana's motivations were good and that she wanted to help make the world a better place and keep the technology out of the hands of a madman. Imra in Legion verifies that Lana is not corrupted by the power and that she does go on to do good in the world, not wreak havoc.


I believe the writers made it very clear, in Legion and in Power/Requiem, that Lana was no longer in the place of "revenge" and "hate" that haunted her in Season 7.......Lana had prepared herself , mentally and physically, and knew that she would use Lex's technology for good. Little did she realize that Lex would use the suit against Clark......Lana's instincts about Lex were correct, she had to take the suit away from Lex. Lana was THE ONLY one who could of saved Clark from the destruction that Lex would have caused with the suit.

Anu
07-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Lana is bull, that is what she is.

Lana_Lang
07-11-2009, 12:13 PM
In some ways Lana Lang is Clark Kent's equal, just like other characters (Chloe, Lois, Oliver, Jimmy) are his equals as well. Generally, regarding powers, heroism, and other things, no Lana isn't really his equal, but I really don't think she was implying it that way.

Exedore
07-11-2009, 02:08 PM
SVLana pwns SVClark. Hell even Darkseid is nothing compared to her.

terri7015
08-02-2009, 11:07 PM
Not even close!!!

x20ArchAngel09x
08-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Definitely not equal, for whenever she got power, she used it for her own selfish gain and revenge. She's not even close to being Clark's equal, for she's way at the other end of the spectrum.

Syn
08-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Where's the "No, I can't stand her" option?

Oh, and her suit makes her skin impenetrable and crap, but it's just a suit; I have a feeling she's going to age and get nauseaous and stuff all the time. Plus, I don't think she'll ever be able to fly.

BigT
04-21-2010, 09:54 PM
Superpowers DOESN'T make you a hero. You have to have the heart and soul to be a hero. Lana has neither. Just because she has strength and speed doesn't mean she's a super hero. Hell, Lois is more of a hero than Lana. :p:lol: