One thing worse than Lana

[REebee52]

[Mod Edit].
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit].
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

[Kevin24]

I agree with your post. I liked the episode but I just didn't agree with Clark and Lana making out in the end though I have to admit I liked it. In a weird way I was glad to see them both so happy. The episode was rather bittersweet for me. Since I like Lois more.

[ginnyfan]

I didn't like Clark in this episode. He just seemed dopey. I don't think it's worse than Sleeper but... Clark should have been more proactive in figuring out the mystery.

[TheOriginalKal-el]

Bravo! I mean if we followed the lore, would there be a Chloe, Lois or DOOMSDAY in Smallville? I mean seriously.

[Cogito17]

I don't see how Clark wasn't proative...

He went to the Talon, talked to Tess, who referred him to the guy at Luthor mansion, who referred him to Chloe, who brought him to Isis, where he found the safe, then they watched the disc that was in the safe, and Clark discovered where Lana was.

He did all the detective work, hunting down, interrogating, and finally arrived at Lana's location all on his own. I don't know what he could have done to be more proactive.

Edit: And yes, this episode was doomed before it even aired. It doesn't matter what they do with Lana at this point. See the Lana response chart below.

Lana says/does something good = OMG why are all the writers in love with Lana.
Someone says something good about Lana = WTF why does everyone have to fall head over heals for Lana.
Clark and Lana interact = I almost vomitted when I saw them on screen together.
Lana does something slightly questionable = She is satan made flesh.
Etc.

You can't really win.

[krpto]

yah but you shouldn't shoehorn clark and lana together only to have lana die or be forced to end the relationship with clark so that clark chooses lois as second choice lois should always be clarks first choice and clana should end becuase they both know they aren't destined to be together not because one's forced to loose the other. When they kill lana off and since they obviously are going to have them realize they aren't ment for eachother thats the only way clana can end I hope there is a big gap between the clana relationship and the official beginning of clois I don't want the clois relationship in smallville to happen simply because clark lost lana and lois was the first woman he could grab and claim as his own so he didn't have to be alone.

[Kevin24]

I don't see how Clark wasn't proative...

He went to the Talon, talked to Tess, who referred him to the guy at Luthor mansion, who referred him to Chloe, who brought him to Isis, where he found the safe, then they watched the disc that was in the safe, and Clark discovered where Lana was.

He did all the detective work, hunting down, interrogating, and finally arrived at Lana's location all on his own. I don't know what he could have done to be more proactive.

I agree but right now people are blinded by their hatred for Lana. It was a good episode and I really liked seeing what she was doing after she left. They also answered that stupid question people were asking during the arctic finale about Lana recording that message. I am with people who are disheartened by the turn of events for Lois and Clark but I still enjoyed her getting powers and her sweet moment with Clark.

[Bizzaro Kyle]

But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

Wasn't Sleeper the one with Jimmy all James Bond like? I liked that one :(

[blink2matrix]

i cosign.

I personally was rooting for Clois all season but the closure we got for Clana wasn't enough. As it was we knew Clark still had feelings for her and if she ever returned those feelings would come back (she left him, not him her). When they do sever the relationship for good it has to be something more than "you are destined for more, goodbye"... especially considering we'd had 7 seasons of their relationship building.

It's fine to hate the episode but i see some overreaction because of Clark and Lana being back together. Who knows how they'll end this next week.

[Kevin24]

^I liked Sleeper too!

[pizzahead2490]

lana actions and the writing and CLARK was just terrible. i felt to much heartache and headache watching this eppy.

i rather watch sleeper.

[krpto]

lana actions and the writing and CLARK was just terrible. i felt to much heartache and headache watching this eppy.

i rather watch sleeper.
I'd rather watch ageless, forever, and sleeper forever then rewatch this episode with the obviously forced clana that we know will end miserably next week and make everyone look bad. Okay maybe I'm exagerating a little.

[RowdyEl]

I agree 100 percent...I hate the Lana hating it is getting old! I love Smallville and will watch it till they decide to cancel it! if you guys actually want the show to keep going then you can see why it would be hard to fast forward everything.

[victory01]

[Mod Edit]. .
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit]. .
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

Honestly, it's not because Lana is in this episode that I thought it was bad. Bottom line, I just don't understand where the writers are taking Lana....I don't see how this story arc has advanced her character. One minute (end of season 7), I thought she was giving clark up to go lead her own life and let him live his. Then today, we find out that she never meant that...she was held at gunpoint. In reality she was on some quest to get so powerful that she would be invinvcible....Clark's equal...? How has Lana really grown here? I feel it's not her who needs to set Clark free but the other way around. For those that say she causes Clark to regress...I sorta disagree...he is equally culpable...he's not letting her grow either.

[NaYa]

I have nothing against the actress (KK) but her character is just so unlikeable. Her new storyline is just ridiculous, accept it xD

[MrZeppo]

[Mod Edit]. .
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit]. .
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

Actually I'm not a shipper. I don't think Lana was holding Clark back. Clark was holding himself back. Let us ALL be honest with each other. A person is responsible for their own actions and choices. And Clark being a whiner before was his choice, not Lana's.

And I will admit, the second the producers give the fans what they want, the show is over. So Clois-ers shouldn't be so quick to get their ship, because they can never make it that easy on us.

And I don't hate Lana. I actually liked "Legion" and "Bulletproof" a LOT. I will admit Clana annoyed me in the past, but it was the teeny-bopperness of it all that bothered me. They were so on again, off again, secrets and lies, etc etc... It drove me bonkers.

But I will disagree with you with "well written". It was okay, and I loved the scene with Clark and Tess and when Tess went nutso. But there were issues I had with it. Mainly how Lana was portrayed. My issue with Lana stems from the fact that I've always felt Lana was a bit needy, defining herself by who she was with. Whitney, Clark, Lex, Jason, etc... Lana never took the time to be alone, to figure herself out. She always seemed to need someone, and when she reached the level of Lex and Clark, it was about proving herself as an equal.

And when Lana came back in "Bride", whoa, I actually liked her a lot. Her character seemed to have grown so much. She didn't need Clark. She didn't need his protection or anything. She seemed more like an adult now, more capable, more independent. And I liked that. Her character seemed to have grown and I have been waiting years to see that. She wasn't the needy girl demanding Clark to tell her his secrets that infuriated me in Season 2.

And even though I am not a fan of Lana being super-powered, I could have been okay with it if it weren't for what she said on top of the Daily Planet. All that independence just disappeared when she proposed that she and Clark fight together. What was all that BS she told us for the last 3 episodes, about having her own destiny? About how the world needs him more?

Sorry, it's just not the character growth I was hoping for. I could even be okay with the Clana ending if she hadn't spent the last 4 episodes making it out like she doesn't need Clark, that she cares about him but feels like he has a destiny of his own. I was hoping for an adult Lana Lang, not someone who needs super-powers to make a difference or to feel like an equal.

I don't even blame Lana or KK, I think it's just sloppy writing. I just wished they setup certain scenes better. That is what annoyed me about this episode more than anything.

[jjacobs]

[Mod Edit] ,

[Mod Edit].

All I hear is "Lana this," "Lana that," and "She's regressing Clark!" Excuse me, have you ever sat down and thought about Smallville's literary organization? It's NOT a linear format. We are NOT solely focusing on Clark. Smallville is multi-potrait format. Smallville is Clark's story, Chloe's story, Lois' story, Lex's story, and LANA's story.

These different stories weave together to make the REASON and sets-up why Clark becomes Superman. Chloe influences Clark to look for the truth. Lex's presence in Smallville creates the conflict that pushes Clark physically and emotionally. Lois is Clark's future love interest and her presence in Smallville sets up his future love story.
LANA LANG represents Clark's constant fight for humanity. Clark is an alien. That will be with him forever. Lana is his comfort. When she leaves he will finally be able embrace his role as Superman.

Yes we have seen Lana have super powers before and yes her actions haven't been mature and thought out in previous seasons. However, I find it disgusting that people are constantly nagging about Lana. It's easy to nag. But have you stopped and THOUGHT about how much she has developed?

Season 1: Cheerleader, underdeveloped.
Season 8: A character who has motive, who has a plan, and who accomplishes what she wants.

Her role IS important. Yes, the romance is tiring. I am sick of that too. But, the kissing is NOT romantic. It's called CLOSURE. Maybe if everyone spent more time critically thinking about HOW the Smallville writers accomplish their purpose, there wouldn't be all of this nagging.

Last thing: If you feel so negatively about an element in Smallville, then [Mod Edit].

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Actually I'm not a shipper. I don't think Lana was holding Clark back. Clark was holding himself back. Let us ALL be honest with each other. A person is responsible for their own actions and choices. And Clark being a whiner before was his choice, not Lana's.

And I will admit, the second the producers give the fans what they want, the show is over. So Clois-ers shouldn't be so quick to get their ship, because they can never make it that easy on us.

And I don't hate Lana. I actually liked "Legion" and "Bulletproof" a LOT. I will admit Clana annoyed me in the past, but it was the teeny-bopperness of it all that bothered me. They were so on again, off again, secrets and lies, etc etc... It drove me bonkers.

But I will disagree with you with "well written". It was okay, and I loved the scene with Clark and Tess and when Tess went nutso. But there were issues I had with it. Mainly how Lana was portrayed. My issue with Lana stems from the fact that I've always felt Lana was a bit needy, defining herself by who she was with. Whitney, Clark, Lex, Jason, etc... Lana never took the time to be alone, to figure herself out. She always seemed to need someone, and when she reached the level of Lex and Clark, it was about proving herself as an equal.

And when Lana came back in "Bride", whoa, I actually liked her a lot. Her character seemed to have grown so much. She didn't need Clark. She didn't need his protection or anything. She seemed more like an adult now, more capable, more independent. And I liked that. Her character seemed to have grown and I have been waiting years to see that. She wasn't the needy girl demanding Clark to tell her his secrets that infuriated me in Season 2.

And even though I am not a fan of Lana being super-powered, I could have been okay with it if it weren't for what she said on top of the Daily Planet. All that independence just disappeared when she proposed that she and Clark fight together. What was all that BS she told us for the last 3 episodes, about having her own destiny? About how the world needs him more?

Sorry, it's just not the character growth I was hoping for. I could even be okay with the Clana ending if she hadn't spent the last 4 episodes making it out like she doesn't need Clark, that she cares about him but feels like he has a destiny of his own. I was hoping for an adult Lana Lang, not someone who needs super-powers to make a difference or to feel like an equal.

I don't even blame Lana or KK, I think it's just sloppy writing. I just wished they setup certain scenes better. That is what annoyed me about this episode more than anything.

I'm not a Lana hater...I was fine that she came back in Bride even though it did ruin a great kiss, but Ilike suspense. I wasn't ready for the romantic Lois and Clark not yet at least. I wanted closure for Clark and Lana. I was even fine with her in Legion standing up on her own feet being strong and what not. I was ok with her in Bulletproof since it was Clark who went to the Talon to have Lana back anyways. But this in Power has totally screwed up the Sweet Lana Lang that I knew in the beginning of SV sadley shes taken Clark down with her!:\ I posted this in another thread just tired forgive me...


ITA

[victory01]

[Mod Edit],

[Mod Edit].

All I hear is "Lana this," "Lana that," and "She's regressing Clark!" Excuse me, have you ever sat down and thought about Smallville's literary organization? It's NOT a linear format. We are NOT solely focusing on Clark. Smallville is multi-potrait format. Smallville is Clark's story, Chloe's story, Lois' story, Lex's story, and LANA's story.

These different stories weave together to make the REASON and sets-up why Clark becomes Superman. Chloe influences Clark to look for the truth. Lex's presence in Smallville creates the conflict that pushes Clark physically and emotionally. Lois is Clark's future love interest and her presence in Smallville sets up his future love story.
LANA LANG represents Clark's constant fight for humanity. Clark is an alien. That will be with him forever. Lana is his comfort. When she leaves he will finally be able embrace his role as Superman.

Yes we have seen Lana have super powers before and yes her actions haven't been mature and thought out in previous seasons. However, I find it disgusting that people are constantly nagging about Lana. It's easy to nag. But have you stopped and THOUGHT about how much she has developed?

Season 1: Cheerleader, underdeveloped.
Season 8: A character who has motive, who has a plan, and who accomplishes what she wants.

Her role IS important. Yes, the romance is tiring. I am sick of that too. But, the kissing is NOT romantic. It's called CLOSURE. Maybe if everyone spent more time critically thinking about HOW the Smallville writers accomplish their purpose, there wouldn't be all of this nagging.

Last thing: If you feel so negatively about an element in Smallville, then [Mod Edit].

Lana developed...! PLEASE! The only thing she showed today is that Clark is still the center of her universe. She only became invincible so she could be his equal. You call that character development? So yes, she developed in that she can kung fu with the baddies...I don't see much more development there....

[Lilah]

I agree with your post. I liked the episode but I just didn't agree with Clark and Lana making out in the end though I have to admit I liked it. In a weird way I was glad to see them both so happy. The episode was rather bittersweet for me. Since I like Lois more.

How do you feel about them sleeping together in the next episode??? Seriously... at least until next week its Lana-Ville Thursday nights and the worst of it all, we get to have that bitter taste until March 5th a month later...

[RowdyEl]

so why can't Lana be developed as a hero?we watched the developement of Oliver Queen become Green Arrow and we got no complaints from that!its just another reason to hate Lana in my Honest opinion...and I would have defended any other character on the show if they had the same storyline....something tells me if it were Chloe that got this storyline there wouldn't be this kind of uproar!

[devilneedsaride]

Whoa guys, such hostility. We're all friends here, right?

I'm not a fan of Lana, and I'll admit I wince whenever she and Clark kiss on the show. Despite all that, the constant character/ship/etc bashing on here has been getting pretty out of hand and I feel for the Clana shippers on ksite who are getting so much flak. I think we should all just calm down and be respectful of each other.

Along that vein, just because you're tired of Lana bashing is no reason to go being rude to Chlarkers or any other ships. I agree that at this point it doesn't really look like Chlark is gonna happen, but that's no reason to go rubbing folks faces in it. Everyone has a right to ship whomever they want, regardless of your personal feelings on it and regardless of what's going on on the show. So hey, be nice.

[CLanaF23]

seriously there is NO LEGIT REASON TO HATE CLANA! clana chemistry was amazing. no matter what anyone wants to say "oh clark and lois are meant to be" it doesnt matter because clark and lana have something that i think no one can compare it to or knock it. they have loved each other since they were kids and despite all the bad things, the deaths, break-up, secrets whatever. Clark and Lana have loved each other. lana has been loyal to clark no matter what. no one can deny that. if everone hates her for her personality (idk why) fine. but dont try to downgrade clana and say it doesnt mean anything cause it does. if you think its a relationship full of lies and it just brings them both down fine. but you cant tell me the first time you seen clana on screen together your heart didn't beat a little faster.

all im trying to say is CLANA is the love lost, the true love that is seperated by the world. that doesn't mean it wasnt meant to be. CIRCUMSTANCES made it not meant to be. cause if the writers didnt want to follow the mythology i think clana would for sure be together. CLANA is the heart of this show. hate them or not. Clana deserves credit.

[Fugoukakusha]

Ha. I don't hate Lana. How could I when I've only watched Season 8 of Smallville. I've glimpsed of other episodes from previous seasons here and there but I never get to finish them because I felt like I was watching soap opera. When I was watching Legion and Bulletproof specially with that kiss, I just sat back and watched. No comment. Hey I don't judge the book by its cover or by just reading halfway through it either. And while I was watching this episode, I was even kinda enjoying it. I love Tess' part although I really do think that she's somehow irrelevant in Smallville. I haven't gotten it quite yet what she's really in here for. They only showed her past from Oliver's point of view and nothing else.
The things Lana-related that I don't like is the fact that she seems to sound quite egotistical. When she was talking to that doctor she mentioned how that doctor would be known for helping him save the world, blah blah. I mean, I'm all for saving the world and/or getting redemption but why did she need to have abilities to do it? She keeps claiming that this is for all saving the world and that she was way past on Lex' revenge thing but is she really? I know that Lex is evil and definitely will use it for world domination but who does she really think she is that she thought she actually deserves 'the power of God'?
While I was watching her interaction with Tess in the mansion, I was really quite expecting her to pounce on Tess at any given moment. To me it just really looked like she has other ulterior motives other than the whole 'saving the world thing'. Even when she was talking to Clark on top of the rooftop. Again, it really sounds like she has other ulterior motives. It is beyond stupidity to think that you need actual powers to be able to change the world, to save it. There are other ways and she seemed to have found that when she founded Isis Foundation. But I guess the lust for power always win in the end for people who's already been consumned by their dark side.

[jjacobs]

Lana developed...! PLEASE! The only thing she showed today is that Clark is still the center of her universe. She only became invincible so she could be his equal. You call that character development? So yes, she developed in that she can kung fu with the baddies...I don't see much more development there....

--> Wow, have you even been watching? Yes, she is physically stronger. However, she has developmed emotionally. Let's see:

1) The "intial" closure dialogue at Chloe's wedding.
2) Her ending dialogue in "Legion"
3) Helping Tess discover about Lex's fly on the wall technology in her brain.
3) Overcoming her fear of the heated box in "Power."

Although Lana did play a role in the mess Clana relationship, remember that it takes two people to make a relationship. Equal blame should go on Clark. Ultimately, HE chose to revive/end their relationship on numerous occasions.

And like I said, if you hate this element of the show, then STOP WATCHING. Lana's role is just as important because she is one of the treads that makes Smallville what it is. Remember, Smallville is not JUST Clark's story. It is Clark's story, Lana's story, Lex's story, Lois' story, and Chloe's story. These different stories weave together the motive behind WHY Clark becomes Superman.

[jhei]

I love the current Lana Lang. =D She is way better than her Season 2-5 counterparts. Since Season 6, I've grown to like the darker Lana. And now, with this arc, it's made me LOVE her character.

She used to be so insecure, and had so much trust issues. She was always so uncertain about things. Now, she is more secure, and toughened up. She's progressed so much as a character!

I think that other people just hate her because of her effects towards Clark whenever she's around. We have to admit, Clark becomes all googly-eyed when she's around. HOWEVER, Lana is not to blame in my opinion (back then, maybe yeah, but now, I don't think so). Lana seems to just want to move on in life, and Clark still doesn't want to.

Come on Clark, your time with Lana has passed already. It's been 7 years! It's your fault that you didn't become honest with her in maybe what? Season 2? 3? 4? Right now, please, just move on, you can do it! Lois is there!

Lana really is not the one to hate anymore. I think because of the past seasons, fans have just grown accustomed to hate her. "I hate Lana, whatever storyline she is given with."

I guess this mentality is just present because Clark is destined to end up with Lois. But if you think more, Lana is not the one to hate right now. It's Clark's pining for Lana, when he can have a choice and move on. Why can't they just be good friends right now? Anyways, that's just my 2 cents. =)

[RowdyEl]

well the way I can see it from her perspective is that perhaps she wanted the powers so that she can turn around and help Clark for saving her many times!and she knows that Clark has a weakness and would like to be there in case someone tries to use it against Clark!so in a sense yes she would be saving a lot of people if she had Clarks back as well as the other friends with amazing powers...Clark obviously can't be everywhere at once...

[hookem91]

completely agree, the lana hate is so frustrating! we get an episode that progresses many arcs of this season but since lana is a major player it is seen as the worst of the season? i mean, are you kidding me? committed/instict/toxic were all far worse episodes than power.

[jjacobs]

The hating against Lana is what people call an ad hominem attack. It is an attack on a person instead of the content of the arguement.

[SVfanGirl]

I agree 100 percent...I hate the Lana hating it is getting old! I love Smallville and will watch it till they decide to cancel it! if you guys actually want the show to keep going then you can see why it would be hard to fast forward everything.

Exactly. Just enjoy the ride! I love Smallville!

[jjacobs]

exactly. Just enjoy the ride! I love smallville!

exactly!!! =)

[devilneedsaride]

The hating against Lana is what people call an ad hominem attack. It is an attack on a person instead of the content of the arguement.

Not really. You can strongly dislike the character without it being a personal attack on anyone, seeing as the character doesn't exist. The concept of ad hominem doesn't really apply outside of a logical debating environment.

[jhei]

Yeah, the writers cannot do anything to persuade these people anymore. Whatever plot they give Lana, no matter what it is, lots of people would just say, "OMG I HATE LANA SHE IS THE WORST CHARACTER EVER SHE MAKES THE SHOW JUMP THE SHARK I WILL STOP WATCHING SMALLVILLE NOW!!!!"

And some people think that the writers are doing everything they can to make Lana be the ultimate best character (like a 'god') in Smallville? They are actually just trying to progress her character. =S

She will never be loved by lots of people, I'm afraid to say, because Lois Lane exists (and I love her too). *sighs*

[jjacobs]

Not really. You can strongly dislike the character without it being a personal attack on anyone, seeing as the character doesn't exist. The concept of ad hominem doesn't really apply outside of a logical debating environment.

I would normally agree with you. However, ever since "Power" debuted people have been complaining because OF Lana. Not because of the content of the episode. I mean if it were Chloe or Lois who got the super-suit people would be jumping up for joy. However, because it is Lana, which carries such a negative connotation in the Smallville community, people jump up. I mean, I'm sure you have seen the arguement of, "Oh it's LANA....ewww..."

[jjsmallvillelvr]

don't hate Lana!

[NinaDavis]

seriously there is NO LEGIT REASON TO HATE CLANA!

Maybe you right but I hate Clana anyway. :(

[devilneedsaride]

I would normally agree with you. However, ever since "Power" debuted people have been complaining because OF Lana. Not because of the content of the episode. I mean if it were Chloe or Lois who got the super-suit people would be jumping up for joy. However, because it is Lana, which carries such a negative connotation in the Smallville community, people jump up. I mean, I'm sure you have seen the arguement of, "Oh it's LANA....ewww..."

That's fair enough. But I think it's valid to care which of the people on the show gets superpowers, and if you dislike Lana for legitimate reasons it makes sense to react to her getting them differently than you would if it were a character you like. Still, I see your point, there's a lot of bandwagoning going on.

[jjacobs]

That's fair enough. But I think it's valid to care which of the people on the show gets superpowers, and if you dislike Lana for legitimate reasons it makes sense to react to her getting them differently than you would if it were a character you like. Still, I see your point, there's a lot of bandwagoning going on.

For sure. If someone can come up with legit. reasons for disliking Lana, then I don't have a problem. There are reasons to dislike her. However, if the Smallville community could control their biases (which we should as an audience who comments and discusses Smallville on Internet forums), we would be a lot happier.

[AgentChaos]

Wasn't Sleeper the one with Jimmy all James Bond like? I liked that one :(

OT but I liked Sleeper as well.

Back on topic, I agree somewhat with the OP. Lana (and to a lesser degree Clark and Chloe) is unfairly targeted at times. I myself have been guilty of doing that before.

[Bre723]

I completely agree.

[Sunny8]

Actually I'm not a shipper. I don't think Lana was holding Clark back. Clark was holding himself back. Let us ALL be honest with each other. A person is responsible for their own actions and choices. And Clark being a whiner before was his choice, not Lana's.

And I will admit, the second the producers give the fans what they want, the show is over. So Clois-ers shouldn't be so quick to get their ship, because they can never make it that easy on us.

And I don't hate Lana. I actually liked "Legion" and "Bulletproof" a LOT. I will admit Clana annoyed me in the past, but it was the teeny-bopperness of it all that bothered me. They were so on again, off again, secrets and lies, etc etc... It drove me bonkers.

But I will disagree with you with "well written". It was okay, and I loved the scene with Clark and Tess and when Tess went nutso. But there were issues I had with it. Mainly how Lana was portrayed. My issue with Lana stems from the fact that I've always felt Lana was a bit needy, defining herself by who she was with. Whitney, Clark, Lex, Jason, etc... Lana never took the time to be alone, to figure herself out. She always seemed to need someone, and when she reached the level of Lex and Clark, it was about proving herself as an equal.

And when Lana came back in "Bride", whoa, I actually liked her a lot. Her character seemed to have grown so much. She didn't need Clark. She didn't need his protection or anything. She seemed more like an adult now, more capable, more independent. And I liked that. Her character seemed to have grown and I have been waiting years to see that. She wasn't the needy girl demanding Clark to tell her his secrets that infuriated me in Season 2.

And even though I am not a fan of Lana being super-powered, I could have been okay with it if it weren't for what she said on top of the Daily Planet. All that independence just disappeared when she proposed that she and Clark fight together. What was all that BS she told us for the last 3 episodes, about having her own destiny? About how the world needs him more?

Sorry, it's just not the character growth I was hoping for. I could even be okay with the Clana ending if she hadn't spent the last 4 episodes making it out like she doesn't need Clark, that she cares about him but feels like he has a destiny of his own. I was hoping for an adult Lana Lang, not someone who needs super-powers to make a difference or to feel like an equal.

I don't even blame Lana or KK, I think it's just sloppy writing. I just wished they setup certain scenes better. That is what annoyed me about this episode more than anything.

You said it all. It is not about Lana hating. I liked the mature Lana in 'Bride' also and I was looking forward to more of that Lana, but this utter...crap. Well, it is just to much and it makes me weary.

----- Added 16 Minutes later -----


seriously there is NO LEGIT REASON TO HATE CLANA! clana chemistry was amazing. no matter what anyone wants to say "oh clark and lois are meant to be" it doesnt matter because clark and lana have something that i think no one can compare it to or knock it. they have loved each other since they were kids and despite all the bad things, the deaths, break-up, secrets whatever. Clark and Lana have loved each other. lana has been loyal to clark no matter what. no one can deny that. if everone hates her for her personality (idk why) fine. but dont try to downgrade clana and say it doesnt mean anything cause it does. if you think its a relationship full of lies and it just brings them both down fine. but you cant tell me the first time you seen clana on screen together your heart didn't beat a little faster.

all im trying to say is CLANA is the love lost, the true love that is seperated by the world. that doesn't mean it wasnt meant to be. CIRCUMSTANCES made it not meant to be. cause if the writers didnt want to follow the mythology i think clana would for sure be together. CLANA is the heart of this show. hate them or not. Clana deserves credit.

Anyone saying that Clark and Lana's relationship did not mean anything is not telling the truth. However, I think a lot of people, myself included, are just tired of this rollarcoaster ride. When Clark and Lana were together in Season 7 they just did not work. What stopped them from working out? (before Brainiac, of course). Nothing was standing in their way so why did they not work? And if they did not work then, how would their relationship work now (that is if they were going to be together for more than one episode)? If season 7 showed me anything it was that Clark and Lana just do not work together; and that has nothing to do with the future love of his life--Lois. When Clark and Lois get together in the future in the comics the relationship between Lana and Clark is well over. They have seen that they just do not work together. SV just won't let the relationship die peacefully and let these character's mature. Its for the sake of drama on the show, but its just tired already. This has nothing to do with hatred of Lana or Clana.

[marcella]

Now people don't have the right to hate a caracther?

[Sunny8]

I mean if it were Chloe or Lois who got the super-suit people would be jumping up for joy.


Oh no I wouldn't. If Chloe or Lois had gotten the super-suit I'd still be saying, "What the crap is this?" and I like both of those characters.

[superpal1]

Lanas destiny is to not have superpowers and show Clark all the good he can do by doing the saving with him or on her own. All that talk about in the last few episodes went down the drain on top of the DP building. She went from someone I could respect to someone who seemed selfish and needy.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

One thing worse than 'Lana Haters'...Lana lovers that insist on starting threads about Lana Haters.

I dnt see Lana 'haters' opening up threads to discuss other fan group. how original :rolleyes:

We get it, you want everyone to love Lana but, reality check alot of people dont. Get over it please:)

[punpun214]

One thing worse than 'Lana Haters'...Lana lovers that insist on starting threads about Lana Haters.

I dnt see Lana 'haters' opening up threads to discuss other fan group. how original :rolleyes:

We get it, you want everyone to love Lana but, reality check alot of people dont. Get over it please:)

totally agree with u btw...

not disagreeing with the thread opener.. but its just some things that they do.. like kissing on the daily planet.. wtf was up with that...

[marcella]

One thing worse than 'Lana Haters'...Lana lovers that insist on starting threads about Lana Haters.

I dnt see Lana 'haters' opening up threads to discuss other fan group. how original :rolleyes:

We get it, you want everyone to love Lana but, reality check alot of people dont. Get over it please:)

ITA

[Alania]

totally agree with u btw...

not disagreeing with the thread opener.. but its just some things that they do.. like kissing on the daily planet.. wtf was up with that...

Disrespecting the mythos seems to have become a habit of that show...:rolleyes:

[Bizarrolover]

Clark and Lana are now Mr. and Mrs. Incredible. They'll have a bunch of incredible kids and form a superpowered family that will forever protect the world from nuts that invent crazy things like Prometeus suits.

Now, on a more serious note, even if I'm not a Lana fan, I liked this episode. Lana's thirst for power is just insane and she proved it today. I am of the idea that Clark is the only one that can handle those abilites and 7 months of training with navy seal or whatever doesn't give you the mental stability to handle so much power. I think I've watched to many double agent and special forces movies, but those superpowered soldiers and agents tend to go psycho, and I fear Lana will follow the same path if she keeps this power for too long.

[Krypton935]

[Mod Edit]. .
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit]. .
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].


Hear!! Hear!!

[LoveHurts38]

All I see is sadness with Lana's return....it's depressing to watch.

[Lilah]

--> Wow, have you even been watching? Yes, she is physically stronger. However, she has developmed emotionally. Let's see:

1) The "intial" closure dialogue at Chloe's wedding.
2) Her ending dialogue in "Legion"
3) Helping Tess discover about Lex's fly on the wall technology in her brain.
3) Overcoming her fear of the heated box in "Power."

Although Lana did play a role in the mess Clana relationship, remember that it takes two people to make a relationship. Equal blame should go on Clark. Ultimately, HE chose to revive/end their relationship on numerous occasions.

And like I said, if you hate this element of the show, then STOP WATCHING. Lana's role is just as important because she is one of the treads that makes Smallville what it is. Remember, Smallville is not JUST Clark's story. It is Clark's story, Lana's story, Lex's story, Lois' story, and Chloe's story. These different stories weave together the motive behind WHY Clark becomes Superman.

Everything you said in 1-3 was undone last night.... and I could careless about her scorching her wrists on some heat box last night. That doesn't show character development... that's just some scared little girl taking intense karate with a navy seal to protect herself.... I think if Lana would have come back in Bride, and had that conversation with Clark in the loft and then left with her final words of "There's nothing you can do for me anymore..." in the hospital would have been just as good an ending for them... if that's what they intended on doing.. but what they're doing is dragging out a storyline, that did not need to get done, just to accomodate an actress... and too me that's just not fair and not right! It's like someone changing the constitution for one specific person to get away with breaking a law.... And yes, it's that serious for me....

And before Smallville, Lana Lang was just a girl from Clark Kent's hometown who ended up marrying his oldest friend (Pete Ross) and later divorcing him after having one child... she may have always had feelings for him in the comics and she probably always would... but Clark Kent was always faithful and loyal to the "love of his life".... This may be a guy name Clark Kent, but this is definitely no Superman, and after 8 years that's just sad....:(

[red_sun1938]

But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

Not because of Lana. This storyline has no place in this season at all. It would be equally horrible if they tried to give Jimmy, Chloe, Lois or even Shelby this story to work with. Absolutely pointless. Even if it was Chloe, I'd still call this the worst episode of the entire series because the story is just so badly disjointed in the context of the entire series arc and the 8th season.

For the record, I thought Fracture was the worst episode of the series before this. Call me crazy but making us believe that Lex survived a 9mm bullet to the frontal lobe, then was thrown in a ditch and miraculously found by some random officer and then medivac'd to the hospital, THEN whisked away by Lionel to some secret location only to be hooked up to a device that allows people to enter his mind and THEN ultimately saved by Chloe's powers was the most far fetched and poorly executed story ever. And that was a Lex episode. You have to work really hard to destroy a Lex episode. Well, now Power supplants that and takes the title of worst episode ever regardless if it's about Lana or Good Ol' Ben Hubbard.

[BadToad]

So, wait, people are not allowed to

1. dislike Lana
2. dislike a Lana storyline
3. dislike this particular arc
4. believe that this arc has impacted the show negatively

And why? Because some of you disagree, and think its good?

Am I up to speed on that?

You believe that your opinion should be respected, but you think others have no substance to their feelings and opinions, and how they felt about the episode? Would you like your opinions discounted because you are just a bunch of Lana worshippers? Or would you believe that unfairly generalizes your opinion?


This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously?

Has it ever occured to you that what you consider well directed, well written and well acted isn't what someone else would consider those things? And I've enjoyed many episode with Lana. Shall I name them? But this episode? Was awful! AM, God bless her, was not able to transcend the material. Not a reflection on her, as Martin Scorcese couldn't have either. Well written? Heck, it might as well have been a lifted fanfic off a Lana devotion site. And well acted? Well, no, not really a shining moment for any of the SV actors, with the possible exception of Cassiday Freeman. Tom and Allison seemed particularly off to me, IMO.

[red_sun1938]

So, wait, people are not allowed to

1. dislike Lana
2. dislike a Lana storyline
3. dislike this particular arc
4. believe that this arc has impacted the show negatively

And why? Because some of you disagree, and think its good?

Am I up to speed on that?

You believe that your opinion should be respected, but you think others have no substance to their feelings and opinions, and how they felt about the episode? Would you like your opinions discounted because you are just a bunch of Lana worshippers? Or would you believe that unfairly generalizes your opinion?



Has it ever occured to you that what you consider well directed, well written and well acted isn't what someone else would consider those things? And I've enjoyed many episode with Lana. Shall I name them? But this episode? Was awful! AM, God bless her, was not able to transcend the material. Not a reflection on her, as Martin Scorcese couldn't have either. Well written? Heck, it might as well have been a lifted fanfic off a Lana devotion site. And well acted? Well, no, not really a shining moment for any of the SV actors, with the possible exception of Cassiday Freeman. Tom and Allison seemed particularly off to me, IMO.

*standing ovation*

Martin Scorsese, Robert DeNiro and Meryl Streep couldn't save this steaming pile of a story.

[miks]

I agree with the OP. Yes there are fans out there who didn't like the episode because it was just horrible, not my opinion but whatever. But there are a lot more who didn't like the episode because Lana was in it, it focused on Lana, because Lois wasn't in it, Clois was trashed, and because of the Clana. I am a die hard Chlarker. I can't stand Clana. And Lana pisses me off, but I liked this episode. I liked the fact they are focusing on Lana's good, because once upon a time, she used to be really sweet. I don't like that they've just completely forgotten all the horrible things she's done but I like that they are capitalizing on how she wants to do good and she's going to try to do good by any means necessary.

I'm not saying you can't hate Lana. Go right ahead. But for those who only hated this episode because of Lana, Clana, Clois the OP has a point. I can't even count how many times I've read just today how many people are quitting this show because Clois is ruined or Clark is a pansy or Chloe's such a witch for "pimping Clana", which she didn't do.

[Nerwen Aldarion]

This was not a bad episode because Lana was in it, she was in Bride and Legion which were in my opinion decent episodes.

This was a bad episode because EVERYTHING about it was bad. If it had been chloe in the suit I would have been screaming so no I don't hate Lana. I hate Superlana, I hate that I wasted an hour by watching Lana try to become GI Jane, I hate that the dialogue in this episode was horrible, I hate the inconsistency with Chloe's character from last week, I hate that the kiss at the end was way overdone, I hate that the episode had so many different storylines I got dizzy.

Basically I hated the episode.

[BadToad]

I can't even count how many times I've read just today how many people are quitting this show because Clois is ruined or Clark is a pansy or Chloe's such a witch for "pimping Clana", which she didn't do.

And?

No, really, And?

Is there a checklist of "Acceptable reasons to dislike an episode"? Please direct me to it.

Did people not hate Committed because of the Clois?

Did people not hate Instinct because of the way they dealt with the Fever letter?

Did people not hate Bride because Chloe married Jimmy Olson?

Are these acceptable reasons to hate an episode?

If someone hates that Lana is turned into St Lana of the All Powerful, why is that not a legitmate reason to despise this episode?

Is someone hates that Clark spent an entire episode running around after Lana, why is that not a legitimate reason to loathe the episode?

Everyone has their own reasons to like, or dislike, an episode. Everyone has favorite characters, and things they want to see, and things they don't want to see. This all contributes to our opinions about an episode. Who is to say what are "acceptable" reasons, and what aren't?

You know the biggest reason I hated this episode? Because it made it impossible for me to respect my favorite character. And any episode that does that to me is made of Fail. Whether it co-stars Lana, Lois, Chloe, Mickey, Minnie, or the Easter Bunny. IMO

I've hated episodes without Lana (Abyss), I've hated episodes with Lois (Action, Lucy). Was that OK, or were my reasons wrong there too?

[thehenry89]

And?

No, really, And?

Is there a checklist of "Acceptable reasons to dislike an episode"? Please direct me to it.

Did people not hate Committed because of the Clois?

Did people not hate Instinct because of the way they dealt with the Fever letter?

Did people not hate Bride because Chloe married Jimmy Olson?

Are these acceptable reasons to hate an episode?

If someone hates that Lana is turned into St Lana of the All Powerful, why is that not a legitmate reason to despise this episode?

Is someone hates that Clark spent an entire episode running around after Lana, why is that not a legitimate reason to loathe the episode?

Everyone has their own reasons to like, or dislike, an episode. Everyone has favorite characters, and things they want to see, and things they don't want to see. This all contributes to our opinions about an episode. Who is to say what are "acceptable" reasons, and what aren't?

You know the biggest reason I hated this episode? Because it made it impossible for me to respect my favorite character. And any episode that does that to me is made of Fail. Whether it co-stars Lana, Lois, Chloe, Mickey, Minnie, or the Easter Bunny. IMO

I've hated episodes without Lana (Abyss), I've hated episodes with Lois (Action, Lucy). Was that OK, or were my reasons wrong there too?


Thank You. ITA with everything you just said.

[tyson08]

One thing worse than Lana.... Clana.

[miks]

And?

No, really, And?

Is there a checklist of "Acceptable reasons to dislike an episode"? Please direct me to it.

Did people not hate Committed because of the Clois?

Did people not hate Instinct because of the way they dealt with the Fever letter?

Did people not hate Bride because Chloe married Jimmy Olson?

Are these acceptable reasons to hate an episode?

If someone hates that Lana is turned into St Lana of the All Powerful, why is that not a legitmate reason to despise this episode?

Is someone hates that Clark spent an entire episode running around after Lana, why is that not a legitimate reason to loathe the episode?

Everyone has their own reasons to like, or dislike, an episode. Everyone has favorite characters, and things they want to see, and things they don't want to see. This all contributes to our opinions about an episode. Who is to say what are "acceptable" reasons, and what aren't?

You know the biggest reason I hated this episode? Because it made it impossible for me to respect my favorite character. And any episode that does that to me is made of Fail. Whether it co-stars Lana, Lois, Chloe, Mickey, Minnie, or the Easter Bunny. IMO

I've hated episodes without Lana (Abyss), I've hated episodes with Lois (Action, Lucy). Was that OK, or were my reasons wrong there too?

Did I once in my entire post say it was wrong for you to hate the episode based on x,y, or z? No. I didn't. The OP's point was that it was annoying that some people are complaining about hating the episode but are basing their complaints on Lana or Clark's regression when it's really about Clana or Clois. Tell me when I said it was so incredibly wrong to hate this episode for whatever reason. Please, I'm waiting...

You may not be the one who has hated the episode because of what I mentioned before; so that means my post wasn't directed at you.

[BadToad]

The OP's point was that it was annoying that some people are complaining about hating the episode but are basing their complaints on Lana or Clark's regression when it's really about Clana or Clois.

Again, And? The OP's point seems to be that people have no right to base their opinions on whatever they want. And I don't see how thats a defensible position at all.

I don't care if the post was directed at me or not. My point is that people can feel whatever they feel about an episode for whatever reasons they feel that way. There aren't acceptable and unacceptable reasons to hate an episode. Whether its Clana, Clois, Chlark, Lana, Clark, Lois, Chloe, etc, etc. If you are agreeing with the OP, then you are agreeing that people are disliking the episode for the "wrong" reasons. How can there even be such a thing?

[Lilah]

And?

No, really, And?

Is there a checklist of "Acceptable reasons to dislike an episode"? Please direct me to it.

Did people not hate Committed because of the Clois?

Did people not hate Instinct because of the way they dealt with the Fever letter?

Did people not hate Bride because Chloe married Jimmy Olson?

Are these acceptable reasons to hate an episode?

If someone hates that Lana is turned into St Lana of the All Powerful, why is that not a legitmate reason to despise this episode?

Is someone hates that Clark spent an entire episode running around after Lana, why is that not a legitimate reason to loathe the episode?

Everyone has their own reasons to like, or dislike, an episode. Everyone has favorite characters, and things they want to see, and things they don't want to see. This all contributes to our opinions about an episode. Who is to say what are "acceptable" reasons, and what aren't?

You know the biggest reason I hated this episode? Because it made it impossible for me to respect my favorite character. And any episode that does that to me is made of Fail. Whether it co-stars Lana, Lois, Chloe, Mickey, Minnie, or the Easter Bunny. IMO

I've hated episodes without Lana (Abyss), I've hated episodes with Lois (Action, Lucy). Was that OK, or were my reasons wrong there too?

Woo hoo!! I applaud you! We all have our own reasons for hating an episode, and we're entitled to it. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one!

[miks]

Again, And? The OP's point seems to be that people have no right to base their opinions on whatever they want. And I don't see how thats a defensible position at all.

I don't care if the post was directed at me or not. My point is that people can feel whatever they feel about an episode for whatever reasons they feel that way. There aren't acceptable and unacceptable reasons to hate an episode. Whether its Clana, Clois, Chlark, Lana, Clark, Lois, Chloe, etc, etc. If you are agreeing with the OP, then you are agreeing that people are disliking the episode for the "wrong" reasons. How can there even be such a thing?

Again, please tell me where I said it was so wrong for you to hate the episode because of whatever reason. You say the OP's point was people have no right...I said the OP's point was that it's getting old everyone saying this but meaning something else. Again tell me where in my posts did I say anyone was wrong for hating the episode because of whatever reason. Please tell me.

And you should care because you're taking my post to mean something completely different when I've said twice now that I don't care why you hate the episode. Hate it because Clark was in it for all I care! I NEVER said you shouldn't hate it because of whatever. MY interpretation of the OP was something completely different than yours which I mentioned in my other post; maybe you should read my interpretation before you say that I said it was wrong for you to hate the episode because of some reason. I clearly didn't say that so why are you still saying I did?

[kryptotrite]

ONE thing worse than Lana? Heck I can think of like 50 things worse than Lana.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

And?

No, really, And?

Is there a checklist of "Acceptable reasons to dislike an episode"? Please direct me to it.

Did people not hate Committed because of the Clois?

Did people not hate Instinct because of the way they dealt with the Fever letter?

Did people not hate Bride because Chloe married Jimmy Olson?

Are these acceptable reasons to hate an episode?

If someone hates that Lana is turned into St Lana of the All Powerful, why is that not a legitmate reason to despise this episode?

Is someone hates that Clark spent an entire episode running around after Lana, why is that not a legitimate reason to loathe the episode?

Everyone has their own reasons to like, or dislike, an episode. Everyone has favorite characters, and things they want to see, and things they don't want to see. This all contributes to our opinions about an episode. Who is to say what are "acceptable" reasons, and what aren't?

You know the biggest reason I hated this episode? Because it made it impossible for me to respect my favorite character. And any episode that does that to me is made of Fail. Whether it co-stars Lana, Lois, Chloe, Mickey, Minnie, or the Easter Bunny. IMO

I've hated episodes without Lana (Abyss), I've hated episodes with Lois (Action, Lucy). Was that OK, or were my reasons wrong there too?

Bravo (**Claps hands**). I might hate clana and lana in general but I will never complain about people that love it.
Also, I might love clois, but I will never complain or start a thread about people that hate it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That is why I love this forum compared to others:)

[petitemimi]

I said the OP's point was that it's getting old everyone saying this but meaning something else.

Well, this is called "second guessing".
You say that some people have hidden agendas. Well, some clana fans ALSO have hidden agendas and liked the episode for no other reason than the clana kiss. As well as some AM fans who will go into elaborate explainations about why the episode is great because AM directed the episode. And just saying that is also called second guessing.

And so what? Everybody has the right to love, hate, argue, present a different point of view or "fanwank", within the rules. I guess I would have found a way to find redeeming qualities to that episode if Tom directed it.

[REebee52]

One thing worse than 'Lana Haters'...Lana lovers that insist on starting threads about Lana Haters.

I dnt see Lana 'haters' opening up threads to discuss other fan group. how original :rolleyes:

We get it, you want everyone to love Lana but, reality check alot of people dont. Get over it please:)

Haha, I'm afraid I'm not one of those. I don't love Lana at all, nor am I ecstatic that she and Clark are together, again, for the moment. I don't expect everybody to love a character.

This has gotten WILDLY out of hand.
I don't hate Clois shippers, I don't particularly agree with Clana shippers, and while I think Chlark shippers are fighting a losing battle, they're entitled to their opinion. What bothers me is the intense loathing many people have of any episode about Lana. It's been going for a few years now, and I knew after Power it was going to explode with rage, after what I thought was an average episode, no where near the worst of the series.
Many people here have given legitimate reasons. I might not agree with them, or think that they put too much stake in them.
For one, Lana doesn't hold Clark back, Clark holds himself back, perhaps he used Lana as an excuse. But Chloe was right in the beginning of this episode. And, as I said in another thread, we can't be too mad at Clark for wanting to cling to some normalcy. We know his destiny, but he doesn't. There are going to be bumps along the way. If there weren't the show could be resolved tomorrow and that would be the end of it, and I enjoy the bumps because they give me story to watch, rather than the producers spoon feed me everything I ask for.
For me, the show is not about 'ships. I enjoy them, because they are realistic and sweet, but I'm not upset when Clark is with someone who I don't like. I was excited when Lois revealed her feelings for Clark. I thought it was one of Smallville's greatest moments (though I felt it a little sudden as some did, but not THAT sudden).
If you're allowed to dislike an episode because of Clana, I'm allowed to disagree and say that I don't think an episode should be judged by that alone. And I think that it's more realistic that Clark still harbors some feelings for Lana.
The bottom line is Lana is almost gone. I think Kristin Kreuk is a good actress who has done a great job with some very difficult material (sometimes I'll admit, not the greatest material to act with). I don't hate the Lana character, and I have trouble seeing where the hatred stems from. I pity her more than I hate her, her story has been one of the more tragic ones in the series.
But this is a debate of opinions, I understand that, but my opinion is in the minority here, so I decided to voice it. Some agree with me, some don't, welcome to the Superman universe. Very few people agree on anything about it, but it's a good place to be.

[umm]

Clana! God, how many times am I going to have to watch those two go down the same sickeningly disasterous path of romance, which will never bear any permanent fruit!

[Kalic]

[Mod Edit].
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit].
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].

Completely Agree to 100%

[Clana4Life]

Again, And? The OP's point seems to be that people have no right to base their opinions on whatever they want. And I don't see how thats a defensible position at all.

I don't care if the post was directed at me or not. My point is that people can feel whatever they feel about an episode for whatever reasons they feel that way. There aren't acceptable and unacceptable reasons to hate an episode. Whether its Clana, Clois, Chlark, Lana, Clark, Lois, Chloe, etc, etc. If you are agreeing with the OP, then you are agreeing that people are disliking the episode for the "wrong" reasons. How can there even be such a thing?

Perhaps not, but there are definitely logical and illogical reasons to hate an episode. It's almost impossible to have a real dialogue, a real debate or a bringing forth of various perspectives when a person's main reason for hating a show is because Lana Lang or Lois Lane or whomever is on the show and they hate the character and proceed to hate all shows involving that character, despite the fact that the episode may actually be good or at least may have good parts. It's pointless to have a blog, forum, etc., where illogical arguments are hidden under the cloak of opinions, i.e., "Episode 000 was really good. I loved how Clark fought the bad guys and succeeded. He embraced his destiny. He said he is going to train now and don a cape and tights. Yet, I hated this whole episode because there was a picture of Lana in Chloe's photo album. This made the whole episode bad. It was a terrible episode because of this character's picture. I hate her." Illogical.

[Tompouce]

[Mod Edit].
I'm tired of it. I get it. You don't like her. Either you're a Chlark Shipper, a Clois shipper, or you think Lana is holding Clark back.
Here's the thing:
[Mod Edit].
We know Clark ends up with Lois, regardless of what happens on the show. We've seen Clark Kent and Lois Lane for seventy years now, we know what it's like. I'm not saying I don't want to see it on SV, I like seeing Clark and Lois together as much as anyone. I know it will happen though, whether on screen or not, so even if Clark is with Lana now, it's only temporary, as it always was.
How about next episode, Clark leaves Lana for Lois, puts on a cape, and becomes Superman. Oops, show's over.
Listen, Kristin Kreuk is a beautiful, talented actress. She and Tom Welling have good chemistry. If everything were going according to lore, Clark Kent would be dating a mermaid at this age. I'd rather see Smallville deal with Lana rather than Lori Lemaris.
I know people are furious about this, and I knew they would be while I was watching. I'm not defending Clana, I'm just telling you to enjoy the ride getting to what you want, because it's coming.
This episode was well directed, well written, and well acted. But because Lana's in it people dub it worse than Sleeper. Seriously? [Mod Edit].
It is what I am always saying. The worse will be behind us soon lol. The end of Clana has to be. BUT "power" sucks whatever. I have nothing against the Clana as I know Clark is going to love Lois BUT we have to say the Lana's end story is really really nuts. I was the first to tell "let Lana/KK ends the show in a right way, a kind of redemption, they deserve it" but what I have seen in "power" is totally absurd. I am totally staggered by the "plot". This is just crazy. If I were KK, honestly, I would have never agreed with such a end...

[silveralex]

REebee52, great posts in this thread. I agree 100%.

I never really liked Lois till this season, but she's won me over and I'm rooting for her and Clark now.

That being said, I also don't get the Lana hatred. I'm glad you voiced a lot of what I've been thinking.


As to wehre it goes, it does seem that they're setting up a tragic end for her. In a way, I think it would fit her character in Smallville. (tragic arc). I'll be curious to see if they actually do it.

Perhaps, she doesn't die but ends up changed/pushed into an ohter dimension/world/time etc. and Clark doesn't know it.